I still believe that Daisy Circuit is in Sarasaland. It has the water and hill landmarks of the Muda Kingdom. Besides, I think it's more likely that Daisy's track would be in her own kingdom. Regardless, we need to see a modern take on Sarasaland!
i wish daisy circuit was more explicitly themed after sarasaland rather than the generic tropical-locale-with-piantas we've already seen with peach beach. there's so many different aesthetics in sarasaland they couldve pulled from!
Since Wii Bowser castle's theme is a remix of maple treeway, it could be that Bowser burned down a part of the forest near maple treeway to build this castle. Maybe it's like an outpost or something.
There have been maps made you can look up that show how quite a few mario kart tracks actually perfectly fit geographically on the other islands shown in the opening of mario sunshine you might wanna check out for future installments of this series: Isle Granchio (the crab shaped one) has coconut mall on its long straight front, mario beach (i think from mario kart arcade) lines up with the left claw, and peach beach from double dash makes up the right claw In Isle Tartaruga (the turtle shaped island) has koopa troopa beach from 64 on its right arm, koopa cape on its right side and sunshine airport being the island that makes up its right leg I'm pretty sure you can probably match up a few more courses on the other islands too if you went through them all
7:19 Shell Island is likely the island shaped like a sea turtle in the beginning of Mario Sunshine. This is probably where both Koopa Cape and Koopa Troopa Beach take place, which also implies that it’s nearby Isle Deflino. For all we know, all of the courses named after Koopa Troopa, Sunshine Airport, Coconut Mall, Peach Beach, and Delfino Square are in close proximity to each other.
5:58 Wario’s Goldmine being on the legend in the Super Bell Subway map likely means that it’s underneath the city. To pin point an exact location on the map, you’d have to look at the areas where there aren’t train lines, like one of the corners or something.
the issue with the legend is its only zoomed in on toad city. however train lines themselves can extend far beyond city limits. i very much assume the subway lines that leave the city eventually run above ground. WGM might not be physically ON the legend, however taking the C3 train will still get you there however far away it actually is.
@@MasterOfTruckI was going to say, this is a transport station, they can take you far away. Especially if the subway is expressly used by the Mario kart characters to get to kart courses specifically, wgm makes sense as a destination
@@gameuniverse5973 I suppose but there is also the large number of DK enemies that previously inhabited the area that would have had to move. I really don't think it is meant to be DK Island.
2:36 NSMB World 1-5 is an even closer match. Almost every platform in 1-5 is a Mushroom Trampoline, unlike in 1-3 which only features a single Mushroom Trampoline. World 7-4 is also a strong contender. 2:18 They didn’t exactly become a mainstay of the 2D games. Mushroom Trampolines were in NSMB, NSMB2, and SMBW. In NSMBWii and NSMBU, they were replaced by Bouncy Clouds. 8:48 Also shoutouts to World 8-8, which features falling volcanic debris, and World 8-1, which features a haunted forest of dead trees, both of which are present in Grumble Volcano. 8:43 The music uses similar instruments, but I don't think it's a remix. Fun fact: a very small portion of the NSMB volcano theme is arranged in the NSMBWii volcano theme, though.
Donkey Kong Island *does* have a snowy portion in DKC1, as seen by the snow levels. This was released before DKC Returns, where the ice cap was melted to make way for the canyon/factory/volcano worlds (I forget which one specifically)
I feel like Koopa Cape’s “Shell Island” sign isn’t meant to signify where the track is located but rather is an advertisement for the giant Koopa shells floating on the water. I’d imagine they’re tourist attractions you can take a boat out to and do stuff on.
I might be reaching, but maybe daisy circuit is located not far from wuhu island, considering the presence of the miis, as well as the boats here at 6:33 are the same boats that reside in wuhu island and they don't appear anywhere else.
I always assumed the Paper Mario world is separate from the mainline games, so I don't think Maple Treeway could be there. That seems to be confirmed by Paper Jam, but now that I think of it.. Is the Mario and Luigi world separate too? If not, could Mushroom Gorge be in the Beanbean Kingdom? Probably not, but what if
5:00 What about Gorilla Glacier from the original Donkey Kong Country? That's a snowy, mountainous area set on Donkey Kong Island, just like DK Summit.
Enemies can move to other places unless it’s a natural habitat situation. I think DKC3 has a winter themed area too that could make a case for it being where DK Summit is, or Pass on the DS
@@VR275KG Enemies can move but like people there is a reason if they do. I don't see a reason why a mass amount of shy guys would move to a snowy mountain nor why all of the wildlife that used to be there would just get up and leave.
@@SheepStar8 The only reason I can think of is because they knew beforehand that DK Summit/Pass were going to be set there and made way/or got kicked out for DK industrialism (insert nature vs civilization analogies here)
Daisy Circuit would have to be in the the Muda Kingdom as the hills don't match Mushroom Kingdom at all but the Muda Hills and the European theme doesn't mean much as we've seen Bowser's Kingdom use a Chinese theme in Odyssey, we've never seen Sarasaland in 3D so it's hard to say.
Shell Island is probably somewhere on the Odyssey map if you look close enough, maybe, (don't break your eyes looking please) As for Mushroom Gorge, I'd think that it takes place in the peaks of World 6 from either NSMB Wii or DS, just below World 7 and the clouds.
I thought from the moment I first played MKWii that Maple Treeway was blatantly meant to be located within Goldenleaf Galaxy from Super Mario Galaxy. Was it really disputed when the aesthetic was such a 1-to-1?
@quangamershyguyyz7166 I know that but apparently it is said somewhere that every Mario are the same and also we have paper Mario characters and stuffs in the main universe
8:00 I wouldn’t use Autumn Mountain for evidence here because the Paper Mario games are confirmed to be made up stories in canon. With the reference to Paper Mario 64’s Japanese name in Luigi’s Mansion and it being confirmed in Mario And Luigi Paper Jam.
I though it was more that it was stories that are written down that actually happen which inside the story book becoming a real world thanks to weird Mario rules like how tv shows are shown being actual places you can go inside So it does not break canon in my option with previous statements paper Mario shows stories that the real Mario did but somehow the story book became alive with it throwing out the beings inside of Mario story which is how Mario and paper Mario can exist With the star spirits in Mario party showing this having been in paper Mario
You win one million points for acknowledging that Sarasaland is more than just the Birabuto Kingdom
I still believe that Daisy Circuit is in Sarasaland. It has the water and hill landmarks of the Muda Kingdom. Besides, I think it's more likely that Daisy's track would be in her own kingdom. Regardless, we need to see a modern take on Sarasaland!
5:00 Like Mt. Wario, DK Summit is a tourist attraction for Skiiers and Snowboarders, so the snowboarding Shy Guys are likely on vacation.
yeah
i wish daisy circuit was more explicitly themed after sarasaland rather than the generic tropical-locale-with-piantas we've already seen with peach beach. there's so many different aesthetics in sarasaland they couldve pulled from!
Since Wii Bowser castle's theme is a remix of maple treeway, it could be that Bowser burned down a part of the forest near maple treeway to build this castle. Maybe it's like an outpost or something.
I can confirm, Paper Mario: The Origami King was the most notable thing that happened in 2020
There have been maps made you can look up that show how quite a few mario kart tracks actually perfectly fit geographically on the other islands shown in the opening of mario sunshine you might wanna check out for future installments of this series:
Isle Granchio (the crab shaped one) has coconut mall on its long straight front, mario beach (i think from mario kart arcade) lines up with the left claw, and peach beach from double dash makes up the right claw
In Isle Tartaruga (the turtle shaped island) has koopa troopa beach from 64 on its right arm, koopa cape on its right side and sunshine airport being the island that makes up its right leg
I'm pretty sure you can probably match up a few more courses on the other islands too if you went through them all
7:19 Shell Island is likely the island shaped like a sea turtle in the beginning of Mario Sunshine. This is probably where both Koopa Cape and Koopa Troopa Beach take place, which also implies that it’s nearby Isle Deflino. For all we know, all of the courses named after Koopa Troopa, Sunshine Airport, Coconut Mall, Peach Beach, and Delfino Square are in close proximity to each other.
technically count daisy cruiser in that lot since it can be seen anchored out in shallow waters nearby on peach beach.
Dk Summit could be at Gorilla Glacier, which is an area of Dk island in dkc1
7:36 I am guessing Koopa Cape belongs to the Koopa Troopa Beach Area. Therefore it can be seen from Sunshine Airport. Also great video!
The idea that each Bowser's Castle is unique is great. Who has more castles, Bowser or Peach?
5:58 Wario’s Goldmine being on the legend in the Super Bell Subway map likely means that it’s underneath the city. To pin point an exact location on the map, you’d have to look at the areas where there aren’t train lines, like one of the corners or something.
the issue with the legend is its only zoomed in on toad city. however train lines themselves can extend far beyond city limits. i very much assume the subway lines that leave the city eventually run above ground. WGM might not be physically ON the legend, however taking the C3 train will still get you there however far away it actually is.
@@MasterOfTruckI was going to say, this is a transport station, they can take you far away. Especially if the subway is expressly used by the Mario kart characters to get to kart courses specifically, wgm makes sense as a destination
5:08… There is a snowy world on DK island in Donkey Kong Country, seems likely that it takes place there
Why are there Shy Guys though and no DK enemies?
@@SheepStar8shy guys are known to live on islands like Yoshi Island has shown so they probably traveled there
@@gameuniverse5973 I suppose but there is also the large number of DK enemies that previously inhabited the area that would have had to move.
I really don't think it is meant to be DK Island.
I love the idea of trying to place the Mario Kart maps into the Mario world. Glad someone is doing it ❤️
2:36 NSMB World 1-5 is an even closer match. Almost every platform in 1-5 is a Mushroom Trampoline, unlike in 1-3 which only features a single Mushroom Trampoline. World 7-4 is also a strong contender.
2:18 They didn’t exactly become a mainstay of the 2D games. Mushroom Trampolines were in NSMB, NSMB2, and SMBW. In NSMBWii and NSMBU, they were replaced by Bouncy Clouds.
8:48 Also shoutouts to World 8-8, which features falling volcanic debris, and World 8-1, which features a haunted forest of dead trees, both of which are present in Grumble Volcano.
8:43 The music uses similar instruments, but I don't think it's a remix. Fun fact: a very small portion of the NSMB volcano theme is arranged in the NSMBWii volcano theme, though.
8:23 i always thought maple treeway was in that one mario galaxy level
Donkey Kong Island *does* have a snowy portion in DKC1, as seen by the snow levels. This was released before DKC Returns, where the ice cap was melted to make way for the canyon/factory/volcano worlds (I forget which one specifically)
The hills in the background of Daisy Circuit are very similar to those in Muda Kingdom…
Good videos, no unnecessary swearing or cursing, no talking like if the watchers were 5 years olds and very informative. 👍
Thanks!
I feel like Koopa Cape’s “Shell Island” sign isn’t meant to signify where the track is located but rather is an advertisement for the giant Koopa shells floating on the water. I’d imagine they’re tourist attractions you can take a boat out to and do stuff on.
Given, the name, Coconut Mall, I'd wager it's actually on the Crab island seen on the map at the start of sunshine.
Fun theory: Bowser DID build Luigi Circuit as a Psyop to create a little discord between the brothers.
I might be reaching, but maybe daisy circuit is located not far from wuhu island, considering the presence of the miis, as well as the boats here at 6:33 are the same boats that reside in wuhu island and they don't appear anywhere else.
Gotta love how inconsistent the Mushroom Kingdom is between games
I always assumed the Paper Mario world is separate from the mainline games, so I don't think Maple Treeway could be there. That seems to be confirmed by Paper Jam, but now that I think of it.. Is the Mario and Luigi world separate too? If not, could Mushroom Gorge be in the Beanbean Kingdom? Probably not, but what if
Shell Island is probably off the coast of the Dark Lands. Makes sense that a Koopa themed location is in Bowser's kingdom.
More of these, please!
5:00 What about Gorilla Glacier from the original Donkey Kong Country? That's a snowy, mountainous area set on Donkey Kong Island, just like DK Summit.
Why are there Shy Guys though and no DK enemies?
Enemies can move to other places unless it’s a natural habitat situation. I think DKC3 has a winter themed area too that could make a case for it being where DK Summit is, or Pass on the DS
@@VR275KG Enemies can move but like people there is a reason if they do. I don't see a reason why a mass amount of shy guys would move to a snowy mountain nor why all of the wildlife that used to be there would just get up and leave.
@@SheepStar8 The only reason I can think of is because they knew beforehand that DK Summit/Pass were going to be set there and made way/or got kicked out for DK industrialism (insert nature vs civilization analogies here)
@@VR275KG That is a valid theory. I personally think it is elsewhere though.
Moo Moo Meadows is intended to take place in Ireland. Such was confirmed by the developers
Daisy Circuit would have to be in the the Muda Kingdom as the hills don't match Mushroom Kingdom at all but the Muda Hills and the European theme doesn't mean much as we've seen Bowser's Kingdom use a Chinese theme in Odyssey, we've never seen Sarasaland in 3D so it's hard to say.
5:00 I’m assuming DK Summit is rather Gorilla Glacier or K3 from the dkc series
Shell Island is probably somewhere on the Odyssey map if you look close enough, maybe, (don't break your eyes looking please)
As for Mushroom Gorge, I'd think that it takes place in the peaks of World 6 from either NSMB Wii or DS, just below World 7 and the clouds.
Wario a goldmine is likely in Sarasa land. He’s all over that place isn’t he
I'd certainly like to see the 3DS courses covered next.
Mushroom gorge, in my opinion, is located just below world 7 from New Super Mario brothers DS with the Mountain Peaks looking like that
I don't remember where I saw it, but Daisy Circuit is confirmed to be in Sarasaland.
I thought from the moment I first played MKWii that Maple Treeway was blatantly meant to be located within Goldenleaf Galaxy from Super Mario Galaxy. Was it really disputed when the aesthetic was such a 1-to-1?
08:06 here's the question, are the Paper Mario and Mario series in the same universe or not?
Different universe as confirmed by Mario and Luigi Paper Jam
@quangamershyguyyz7166 I know that but apparently it is said somewhere that every Mario are the same and also we have paper Mario characters and stuffs in the main universe
@ Some Paper Mario characters exist in both universes but almost everything else is in separate universes
@quangamershyguyyz7166 that's what I thought
I always thought dk summit was dk mountain
8:00 I wouldn’t use Autumn Mountain for evidence here because the Paper Mario games are confirmed to be made up stories in canon.
With the reference to Paper Mario 64’s Japanese name in Luigi’s Mansion and it being confirmed in Mario And Luigi Paper Jam.
I though it was more that it was stories that are written down that actually happen which inside the story book becoming a real world thanks to weird Mario rules like how tv shows are shown being actual places you can go inside
So it does not break canon in my option with previous statements paper Mario shows stories that the real Mario did but somehow the story book became alive with it throwing out the beings inside of Mario story which is how Mario and paper Mario can exist
With the star spirits in Mario party showing this having been in paper Mario
Wrong about mk wiis rainbow road it takes place above the earth bec it used the same earth model from the weather channel
I love these
Pls do Mario Kart DS
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