Fix Dead Breakout Boards - Parallel Miner X11 Repair
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- Опубликовано: 22 июн 2022
- This is a relatively simple fix to bypass the faulty internal turn on circuit on these boards. ~22K resistor, some wire, and soldering equipment is all that's required to get them up and running again. This should work on all breakout boards for the HP common slot PSUs, including other models from Parallel Miner.
If you want to be able to switch these on and off, you can switch either jumpers and the unit will toggle on/off.
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I've had 2 break out boards from parallel miner go bad on me in the last month, thanks for this info, I thought I was SOL
I had 5 dead boards. Just did the first one and its back up and going. You're a Life saver my dude. I have three extra power supplies and 5 boards i can bring back from the dead because of this bullshit tho.
No idea why I kept buying things from PM when things just kept going wrong. Prob went through 3-4 PSU's and/or breakout boards. I had assumed that something was wrong with my rig and I kept changing risers/wires out. So many people were recommending them I just didn't do my due diligence and assumed they couldn't be selling shit products. Thank you for this video.
They revised the X11 AMP, and now there’s also a date sticker on the board so it’s easier for them to deny warranty. The revised boards still fail, so I’m not sure what they did. I suspect people are only promoting them since they have a affiliate program that pays creators for sales generated. Curious you don’t see big channels talking about their PM breakout board failures…
I have had a very similar experience with PM. I did have some fail within the 30 days and they replaced them, but the replacement soon failed too. I purchased the Deep into the mines Dell breakout board after watching this video and it has been great so far! Thanks for the info
Unfortunately these look like most will fail, but at least there’s a hack to keep them running. They’re reasonably well made, but clearly the engineering is poor, it looks like the main turn on mosfet fails. I might look into it more and see if there’s a good way to repair the original circuit.
The deep in the mines boards are pretty good, but certainty not perfect. They are absurdly simple though, so they should last forever. I have a video about server supplies coming out next week.
@@SiCPoWMining Yeah that's what i'm also wondering about actually repairing them, but then again this could potentially just happen again. My wonder around doing the repair is whether or not a repair would fix maybe a crap part they used or if it's some bad engineering that basically shorts it out causing the issue. By figuring out how to repair we would have more info on WHY it's happening since PM clearly does not care
I wonder if this will work on the zsx boards....
great, converting my broken board with this( 4 out of 15 ). At least the amp reading is still good. looking foward to your next video on server PSU
Mine is up again. Thanks for the tip.
Crap my ZSX amp breakout board just did this in the middle of the night 💩 glad there is a fix so I dont have to repurchase another
Worked great! Thanks
Similar experience has brought me here, just had board #3 stop working. Thanks for sharing the video.
At least with the mod these boards should last a very long time, its just silly how unreliable these things are.
@@SiCPoWMining I ended up picking up a 1400 watt HP psu and am using it with a compatible Deep In The Mines board. The additional weight is noticeable, wish I had started off with this approach when adapting to 240v.
Do you know what kind of switch it is, so I could try to replace it first?
I dont suppose you can make a video repairing the same issue on the X15B boards...?
How you are pushing the board too hard on 750w PSU lol
Great content broski, keep going 💯
That’s what they told me, apparently I’m burning down these boards running 500W through them. Had two more fail since this video… Brutal.
Thanks for the support. 👍
What about the normal x11 board? The same pins solder with resistor work?
Yes, this will work with any HP common slot PSU.
Do you have a link to the resistors you are using?
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Anything like this is fine. There's a million different brands, these are exceptionally common but may be tricky to find locally since nobody stocks parts like this anymore. You just need a bit of wire for the other one, I used two resistors since I couldn't find a bit of wire.
Can you show us the X11 non Amp board repair.
It’s exactly the same for all HP common slot PSUs, including x11.
Just had this happen to my X11 AMP as well. Only 3 months old, barely sending 200 watts through this thing. Had no idea this was such a common problem. Would you consider these to be pretty reliable after doing this fix?
The repair should be 100%. I haven’t had any issues after the mod, looks like a bunch of others managed to get them up and running as well. It’s just a poor design, the failure rate is well over 50% for me.
Just fixed mine. Anyone have a clue what's actually burning out on these boards?
Thank you for making this! Same thing happened to me but I have zsx-amp. Think it's the same pinouts?
I find this sort of thing quite frustrating. The product was manufactured and exists in moderate volume, but has a flaw in the design with no support from the manufacturer. I’d much rather see people fix these themselves to keep the otherwise good board humming away.
Shouldn’t change anything on the ZSX, but I haven’t tested it myself. I have a friend with a few ZSX’s that failed, I’ll probably fix them a show it in a video eventually.
@@SiCPoWMining this really sucks. Terrible customer service. I think it ran for about 4 months. Please let me know if you make another video to fix the zsx🥺
To be clear, this mod SHOULD work on the ZSX. I know a few people in the comments said they were going to do it, but nobody checked back after. I assume that means it was fine?
@@SiCPoWMining I tried it but no dice.
Ok correction. I put a switch on pins 1 and 4 from the left and the power supply will turn on. Sorry about the confusion.
Not sure what I did wrong but I bought the 22k and 3.3k resistors and installed them. The board didn't power up. The 1-4 jumper did power up the board without the resistor.
I re-watched this video, and apparently I did say 3.3k. The ONLY resistor required is 22K, the other one I used was 3.3ohm, not 3,300 ohm. It was just used as a jumper to short out the two pins, but you should use a piece of wire. I might have to remake this video.
is it possible to do this with zsx boards as well as x11 boards for LiteON PSUs? please get in touch if you have some suggestions, or way for me to check which leads i should link with the 22k ohm resistors, to make it where all my units stay on, thank you, ive been through 8 boards out of the last 16 ive received cause of the power button not working after anywhere from a couple weeks to a couple months
Yes, this should work fine on X11 and ZSX. They both are the same HP common slot, the instructions here are the same for those.
@@SiCPoWMining im not having much luck, could just be the board, it turned on for a moment, unplugged and went to hook everything back up and now it wont turn on again, granted my soldering skills are no existent, so i could have messed up and made a weak connection, also im uncomfortable and trying not to burn down the house in the middle of the night haha
@@alexandermartin8121 I haven't tried this on a ZSX yet, but I don't see why it would matter. I have a friend dropping off some more PM boards soon, and there's a ZSX or two in there. Are you using a jumper wire to connect pins 1-7? If you use a 22K resistor there it won't do anything. This video showed a resistor, since I couldn't find wire on hand when I did this repair. This was a 1ohm resistor or something like that, which is basically a wire.
@@alexandermartin8121 You need a ~22Kohm resistor on pins 4-5, and a wire or switch connecting 1-7.
Great video , is it work with dell 1400w psu ? Thx
If feel like you're speaking directly to me with this video! I've had three breakout boards die in less than 6 months. The most recent was last night! Yes having a 30 day warranty is very odd. Not a lot of faith in any type of longevity.
Definitely not a pro with electronics and zero experience with a soldering gun. Doesn't look like the Deep In The Mines versions allow you to daisy chain them together. Nor does the sodering fix on the x11s. Any solution for that? Thanks for the great video!
You can daisy the deep in the mines, but you’d need an unusual male PCIe 6P to male SATA. I added a link to that cable in the description. You’d need one per PSU you’d want to add.
@@SiCPoWMining thanks. Definitely something to think about. Would need relatively long ones as I have 4/5 PSUs for one 12 GPU rig. 110v over here. Over if PM would just produce something that didn't crap out so often! Thanks for all the info.
@@michaelkonen Whoa, 5 PSUs per rig! Is this a 12 way 3090 rig? On 120V?
@@SiCPoWMining 882MH. Mostly 3070+. Newbie over here so just used what I had so using 3 120v circuits. Hadn't gone down the full rabbit hole to install 240, especially with ETH merge coming.
Are the x11s still having this issue?
Would be nice to see if they fixed it, but I’m not sure…
My X11-amps will stop working. They get voltage, but won't power up, just like yours. But if If I pull them off the psu and let them sit for 48 hours, they'll fire right back up for about a week then they'll do the same thing. Eventually, they'll never fire back up again. I'm going to try this fix, but I'm wondering if it's something else?
It’s definitely the same issue. A PNP transistor in the turn on circuit gets weak over time and often behaves exactly like you described.
@SiCPoWMining I did the fix on 6 of them and put two to work. So far, they're working great. I ended up just jumping between 1 and 4, because when I did it the 22k resistors, it wouldn't work. Not sure why.....but jumping it worked.
@@SiCPoWMiningUpdate: I fixed about 8 of them for a friend who had the same issue. Working like a charm.
Whats the propter voltage of breakout board mine is 11.8 V is that normal?
The breakout board generally has no control over the voltage the power supply puts out, it’s just there to turn the power supply on and give you plugs for your cables. Normally you’d expect to see in the range of 11.9v to 12.3v unloaded. With a load, it will typically droop into the 11.7-12.1v range. The model of the power supply used will have some impact, and how significant the load is compared to the rated output for the power supply. Generally, the more load, the lower the voltage, but it shouldn’t be very much. 11.8v sounds about right, maybe a tad low if it’s not much of a load.
@@SiCPoWMining Im suspecting my breakout board is the culprit of seizing 2 1200 hp psu
Is it a Parallel Miner board? They have been outrageously unreliable. At least 50% failure rate from what I’ve seen, over years of production. It’s possible the breakout board can damage the power supply, but that’s not likely. You changed the PSU and it worked again, but failed a bit later?
Hey so i tried this and it didnt fix it … i used 22k resistor for both 1-7 and 4-5 is that wrong ?? I know u used the diff one for 1-7 but you only linked the 22k ?? Just asking
I plan to revise this video as that can be misleading. Yes, the 1-7 needs to be a short. A piece of wire or something goes here, the 22k resistor won’t do it unless you just use the metal bit and chop off the resistor section.
@@SiCPoWMining ok sounds good thanks… if i get it to work i might record me doing it on my second one… do u mind ?? Ill link urs of course
Edit : works great thanks man … i prob should have used thinner wire for the jumper … not 16 awg pcie cable i had laying around lol ill use thinner wire on the last one i have
I have had 4 of these fail in the past 10 months. Same issues.
They appear to have redesigned the board, but oddly they didn’t put a different date or rev marking on it. My friend purchased more from them, and they sent him boards with rework on the PCB, some of which have failed. I wonder if they were shipping used boards that were repaired… They moderate the reviews on the website and customer service lies left and right, so it sounds entirely likely this is what they do with returns if they can.
What is going on with these boards?! I had another breakout board "die" on me last night. That would be two in a few days. This time I replaced the "dead" breakout board with the one that "died" a few days ago and it's working again. "They don't make em like they used to" - I've seen this with quite a few different electronic products that I own over the past few weeks. The other examples are major appliances and only a few years old!
I'd guess it's just a bad design. The parts are either a bad choice, or the design isn't tolerant to variations in production and environments.
If I just jumper the 1 to 4 for a second, will it turn it on?
It depends on the PSU model, but probably.
@@SiCPoWMining that worked... Temp fix for now 😂
I tapped it with my multimeter
@@followgeo Just jumped it, it worked for me!!!! Shame that we had to do this. Thanks guys.
Yeap, I had a similar experience with PM. The funny thing is that within 2 months I ordered the same powerboard twice and I could literally RMA the one that got damaged from the second order but I just didn't want to be a d*ck. That made me stop buying from them.
Yep, same here. I usually purchased from them as a guest, and didn’t log in. The customer service person appeared to not care about me since I only had a few on the account and it was a few months ago. They acted like it was irrelevant that I purchased within 30 days, since it wasn’t on that account. I left accurate and calm feedback on the x11 amp page; and they removed it. Very questionable business practices.
Can i do that for my Zsx amp breakout board?
Yes, those are failing now?
@@SiCPoWMining yes, one of my zsx started reboot loop then all of the sudden it stopped and wouldn’t turn on, got it from parallel miner 3 months ago
@@MasoudBarzany That's most unfortunate, sounds like the issue affected most of the boards they made the last year or so. But yeah, this would fix it. I'll do an updated video soon showing a better version of this with a switch.
@@SiCPoWMining awesome, so with a switch the daisychain should also work, right?
btw i also want to mention that the link you added to your description is actually 2.2 ohm and not 22k ohm
Unfortunately not. That plug won't work without repairing the circuit on the board. It could be easily bypassed entirely with a relay powered by a master board with a switch. Then you could run a few boards with one switch. The switch just makes it easier to turn a few of these on at the same time.
I fixed the link, thanks.
They warrantied mine. I got 3 replaced no charge
That’s good to hear. Curious why the customer service is so hit and miss. I read many people had a similar experience to me, and my friend did as well a few weeks later.
@@SiCPoWMining Just make sure you send them a support email, their RMA form i don't even think they monitor at all, never got a response until I sent email to support.
Yeah this is kinda crazy, i've been using PM boards for a year now, and only recently (last 3 or 4 months) i've been getting bad boards consistently. I have some boards running from when I first started, no issues, and even swapped them to the PSU cards I thought may be killing the breakout board ... NOPE still going strong. They definitely have gone cheap, QA is no longer there, or who knows what. My opinion, the "daisy chain" is also poorly engineered, this should have been handled similar to the way the molex connection works. Basically if power is lost to one PSU, you will have to manually go reset everything bc any daisy chained boards will not mirror the same state.
Now that mining isn’t booming, I’d guess they’re unlikely to care or want to invest anything in fixing these issues. I have some early x11 AMPs and they have been fine, but I’m at 7 failures now on my newer ones.
@@SiCPoWMining Yeah you're probably right. I've had this happen on both my AMP, X11 (V11), and X12 boards, so it seems to be consistent throughout their product line as far as I can tell. I've also moved a known working BB to the PSU and rig that another one failed on, have yet to have any of those purchased 6+ months ago fail on me ... smh
Wait I have 3 of these? So this isn't just me?
Yo … do this its easy lol spent $35 on stuff to fix 3 of them instead of like 80-100 more on a replacement… prob dont need 16awg wire for the jumper 😂😂😂 i cut a old pcie cable up … next one ill use thinner wire 😂😂😂
I have like 8-9 ZSX breakout boards and have never had a failure with one knock on wood LOL
I didn’t see anyone saying the ZSX’s were failing, luckily. But it sounds like a shocking number of other boards have this same issue.
I bought 7 x12 boards for my 2 Dell power supplies. The boards kept dying and I kept replacing them and its been 8 months and now all the boards are dead. So basically every two to three months I have been replacing two dead breakout boards. Its just stupid annoying because I lost about $112 in fukin breakout boards. I have breakout boards straight from china that have been working fine for the past 8 months.