Sony a9 III - a Niche $6000 24mp camera
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- Опубликовано: 6 ноя 2023
- 😮 The age of Global Shutter is upon us - Thank you Sony!
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Great summary Matt, I love that fact that you stick to the facts, and do not compromise yourself to make camera companies happy at the cost of your integrity. You translated all the hype into what it means in the real world, which is where most of us live. Thanks for being true to the industry and calling it how you see it. Sony can only benefit from having you review their cameras, hopefully they will see that soon. Good luck and keep doing you.
10:24 It's the same type of screen that's on the A7RV where it tilts up and down (and pulls out) on-axis with the sensor like the A1 and Sony's older cameras used to (and Nikon's Z bodies still do), but can also fully articulate outwards and flip forwards. Granted, it can't "tilt" left and right like the Z8 and Z9 can, but honestly Sony's implementation here is really the best of both worlds. I have an A7RV and I can't go back to other bodies where it's either tilt _or_ articulation, but not both.
Matt, I looked at many RUclips reviews on the a9 iii and you are the only one that gives an objective review of the camera. All the others are excited about the specs and forget about what it will really mean to operate the camera. Thanks a lot. Keep on your good work. I hope you will be able to do your hand on review of the a9 iii soon.
Glad it was helpful!
This type of video is the reason why I love this man. The specs are been talked about by all but when it comes to talking about the practical aspect of those specs Matt is the one to say those.
Cheers
Matt is wrong in a lot of this video. The only thing that is being hyped up that doesn't really matter is the 1/80,000 flash sync, but I'm pretty sure people lose their minds over the 1/32,000 shutter speeds that other companies say they can do with their cameras but has no real world application. The point of mentioning that flash sync is that it's going forward with the entire idea that this camera unlocks everything that was held back by mechanical shutters and other line scanned sensors. This is the evolution of mirrorless cameras.
Not forgetting that Nikon is paying things.
Nikon is paying things? What does that mean?
With all the hype around the announcement of this camera yesterday, I think you offer the best balanced feedback on what this camera is likely capable of and how it is differentiated (or not) from the current market offerings. Great perspective as always Matt. It will be exciting to see how this technology evolves over the next 2-3 years and how other manufacturers incorporate the global shutters into their product lineups.
Cheers Phil
It's noy Hype. You might want it to be or you just don't understand the significance of this issue of the global shutter. This is not the usual Matt Granger "Well now it has auto focus for animals eyes or it has 45 MP which is a game changer" when it's not. This will affect sales of all cameras and how all manufactures now build their cameras, Nikon and Canon have to act and fast. It's not hype at all. Granger has given a lack luster review to one of the most important and significant developments in the history of 35mm cameras. But he is a new man so maybe he does not realise that, much to my surprise though! Get your act together on this one Granger you are a mile behind.
I think you maybe misunderstood my coverage of z8 and z9, and of this announcement @orsoncart9441
@mattgranger on the positive side, the comments like the one above show that you have an inflow of new watchers, who don't yet know that you are a pro flash photographer (and teacher) for 2 decades (or is it more now?), and can speak from experience better than anyone on the topic of global shutter. Thanks for a practical and level headed review.
Magnificently summarized. Thinking it through yesterday, this is exactly how i see it. It's the perfect camera for a sports photographer who knows exactly how far his subjects are in a stadium or arena so you don't need to crop and can pick the right lens.
For everyone else it's an insane use of $6000.00
Steve Fine, Sports Illustrated photo editor once said "you can't crop a sports picture too much"! He knew what he was talking about. I've been a sports photographer for over 20 years and the most important part of sports photography is the crop! I came from the D5 to the Z9 last year and get much better images from the Z9 because there is so much additional area that I can crop! Some sports, like baseball, are easier because the relative motion is small (the batter doesn't move much) but football is just the opposite. You not only have the quarterback, halfback and wide receivers moving, they cross each other paths all the time. This forces you to shoot a bit loose in order to track all theses people and when you do your final editing, you want enough room to crop tight if you have to (and believe me, you have to)! I would no more think of going back to 24 MP than I would film.
Really great video Matt, theres some amazing specs to celebrate on this camera but it really is looking like a daytime sports camera, I don't feel the file size will appeal to wildlife, especially the bird team out there. I would definitely miss the file size of the Z 9, in the past I wasn't much for toggling between FX and DX but now its very much part of my everyday usage with the Z 9 45MP file. Also not sure 1 second of 120fps RAW is worth much unless you are knowing pretty much exactly when you will need it especially when you can shoot 120 fps jpeg and pretty much not fill the buffer. The strobe at any shutter does sound amazing and I am sure there will be many flash units in RnD to can handle those massive shutter speeds. Kudos to Sony for being the first to implement the GS into a stills camera let hope they can iron out all the issues before Canon and Nikon give it a crack.
Well Said
Find myself liking your videos right after starting them as they're always great. Thanks for the knowledge and best wishes on the Japan trip!
So nice of you
Great summary Matt! You have a gift for distilling down to the true features/benefits of a new introduction like the a9iii.
Matt couldn't agree more, im an OG A9 shooter and waited for this release only to be disappointed, great camera for a select group of folks. The best part is the ice has been broken and global will now be in all top cameras going forward, just not required for me a Bird shooter. Was hoping for a bit more cropping power with more rez but alas Sony had other ideas. The "older tech" of a stacked sensor is fine for most of us and I never had any distortion in over 50k BIF shots, shoot flash 6x a year for events so a mech shutter is sufficient for me, the global flash advantage will be great for arena sports where they shoot house strobes and maybe some other creative people but not for me.
Fantastic and clear initial assessment- thank you!
Really great, thoughtful rundown.
Matt Again a Masterful,balanced, & Insightful POV!!! You again highlight how a mature pro can offer truly remarkable real world perspective on our industry as a whole!!!
Thank you sir!!!
Cheers Ronald.
Well...its just a matter of time isn't? this global shutter thing? I sincerely think for most use case, its not a necessity but for photography knowledge, it is good to know. In years to come, this will be a norm and who knows what's in store down the horizon. What is already in the market is a blessing in itself. As for me, my Z8 is all I need, a solid all rounder. Excellent tutorial again Matt...
Dear Matt, This explainer is truly up there on the technicals of sync speed. Your experience just shows so vividly. Great job done!
Some really good thoughts and questions, Matt!! As a wildlife photographer, and Sony shooter, who makes very good use of my 42MP sensor followed by serious cropping, I have been, for months, looking forward to the A9iii to upgrade to a stacked sensor. I was really hoping it would be a Sony version of the Nikon Z8 with Sony's Ai focus system and all the other good stuff and at the same price as the Z8. Boy was I disappointed!!!!!!!!!
Instead, Sony made their mid level stacked sensor camera into a low-res, super fast niche camera and bumped the price to within $200 CDN of the flagship A1. The A9iii costs $9400CDN (including taxes) here in Canada. Now there is no high-res stacked sensor mid priced Sony camera. I am pissed!!! Now I am looking for a used A1.
Thanks for sharing... I imagine a few people feel this way. There are plenty excited thats for sure... and plenty angry that I raised any reality checks haha.
Thanks Matt, this is one fair and practical review of the announcement. I immediately went to check the common 1/1-1/8 clash durations to see where the new limits are on shutter speed. You managed well to provide better coverage than the streaming folks in their 90 seconds hands-on panic videos.
Great explainer MG!
Your analysis is very realistic and void of hype which is great keep it up matt ❤❤
Thanks for a very informative and thought provoking program.
Thanks for the video Matt 😊
I think you are the 1st video I saw that actually acknowledged the previous global shutter sensors. Looks like it will be a good camera for someone with those needs.
Yeah, the hype of exciting media events can lead to overlooking outside factors. I have been there, not criticising others. But its a sealed environment, you hear all these great features, get to test them out, see great results, it can be hard in that heat to think about the potential negatives, or the broader and historical context.
In a way, being stuck at my messy desk has that advantage.
The Pixii A1112 was a compact, stills-focused, 12-megapixel global shutter camera that came out in 2020. Very few people noticed, and of those who did, most said 12 megapixels weren't enough and the price (about $3000 US) was too high. Now, Sony brings us a global-shutter camera with twice the megapixels and at twice the price…
Sony said they are the first full frame global shutter. This is 100% true, whether or not Canon allegedly designed one a year ago doesn't matter because they never did anything with it, they announced it and that was it. And the other one is in the Red Komodo that is Super 35.
Hi Matt. A great summary and also some really good technical insight into the real use cases for some of the high-end specs. This obviously evidences your own grasp of the technical side of photography which of course is balanced by your more artistic side :) What I appreciate here is the non-biased stance you take and while I am a Z9 owner I don’t feel I will be missing out on too much with this release from Sony. What is great, is having the competition driving innovation this has to be good for us all as photographers. I agree with your comment btw re the 120fps, Lovely to have for the rare occasions. Also, the workflow associated with more fps should not be under estimated. Yes, you are more likely to get that perfect shot of the subject however you then have to trawl through lots of images and are left with a choice between 2 or 3 images with the Z9 or maybe 10 very similar images with this Sony ...... Keep up your great work btw as this video gave much more of an insight than one of the other reviewers that was given a hands-on option.......
Your initial thoughts were identical to mine...only good for a very small niche of pro sport photographers...anyone interested in high sync speeds for product or fashion are going to be using medium format with leaf shutters where their sync speeds are typically higher than the spec of the flashes themselves. It is cool they are finally out there, and they definitely blow the doors of the R3, but the Z8 and Z9 are much better all rounder cameras, specially with Nikon's newest telephoto releases...
Best, most balanced take I’ve seen so far.
Thank you so much for a very interesting review
Great review. Can't wait to see what the others will release..
Great video, very rational perspective. For the very limited use case of a global shutter over say the Z9 FOR NOW and given the price and resolution limitations, this is a “look at me” camera more than something useful. But “look at me” is important and who knows in the future.
I agree. A global shutter in an A7RV successor and FX4 would be amazing and everything i need to be more than happy🙏🏻
Best review I've seen. You really make some great points here Matt!
Glad to hear it!
This is the first review that puts things into perspective and gives a balanced view. I have decided to subscribe to this Chanel. Other reviewers have been way too one sided.
That flash sync is extremely useful for many people.
This video was the voice of reason.
Beautiful!
Thank you for the reality check!
This is an amazing development in camera design but, we need to get off the hype train for a bit.
A9 is a "Sport" & "Action" oriented camera, it was never meant to be for portrait photographers or people looking for high resolutions. Sport and action photographers were always the ones that were hurt the most by rolling shutter and this A9 solves the issue for them
I agree - although a lot of the coverage from the launch seemed to focus on flash action portraiture.
Well done!
Great video Matt and all your thoughts I would say are so very true ,yes we don’t need more than 24meg but it’s a lot of money for the few features and unless you need it for specific work related stuff ,There are better Cameras on the market,for less money ,nice to have different technology thou for Motivation to Nikon Canon etc 😊
Need is a funny word. Many people want higher resolution - who is to say they don’t ’need’ it. You don’t ‘need’ more than 100hp for city driving…. 🤷
Personal choice.
Hi Matt. In your opinion, will this camera be good for concert photography? Thanks for sharing your video.
Thanks Matt for your usual objective approach to this. For some photographers of a certain niche, I'm sure it's a great camera. But the Z8, Z9 and A1 remain the better all-rounders. Especially with regard to the practical background of flash photography, you've made an important statement that most influencers can't put into perspective. Thank you for your common sense. The technology behind it is impressive and it will be interesting to see what the image quality looks like in the end
Sony, Canon, and now Panasonic are the top three contenders.
just because it does 1/80,000 doesn't mean you need to do 1/80,000. There is no better camera for flash photography than the A9iii, none. It's not even a question, it's not even debatable. Matt didn't even bring up that you can set your flashes power in the a9iii and it'll work within that power amount to give your your maximum sync speed.
The camera isn't nearly as niche as Matt makes it sound. To me, and I'm pretty sure I'm in line with my colleagues, the a9 III is the perfect wedding and event camera. Silent shooting under any light, exactly in the sweet spot with regards to resolution (no, I don't want 8000 images at 50 mpix after a day of shooting), no more HSS problems (meaning I can leave the AD600 at home and do everything with my V1s), tilty-flippy-screen, and cheaper than the flagships. If anything, the a1 and Z9 are more niche. Their only advantages are 8k video and 50 mpix stills - nobody really needs that, except for very high end commercial photographers.
@@RiposteThis Regarding flash synchronization: Apparently, synchronization "only" works with attached flashes at up to 1/80,000. With off-camera flash up to 1/500s. Coupled with the high base iso of 250, the differences to a conventional camera with iso64 are negligible with remote flash.
Source: Sony product data sheet: FLASH SYNCHRONIZATION SPEED1/80,000 sec, 1/500 sec. *With compatible external flash from Sony
Totally agree with you on this but..the A1 ii or wtv should be out within the next year THAT will be Sony's response fir an all rounder and I bet it will be incredible. And incredibly expensive 😅
Thanks for the level headed analysis. Only a few had some of the same. I had much of the same questions and thoughts. I do see it coming mainstream once we know the camera can actually do. One other thought, can the camera handle the heat. Heat is the enemy of electronics.
A9 III is an evolution and a revolution at the same time. The global shutter abandons the one thing that is a possible point of failure for our cameras, the mechanical shutter. For me this camera is something like "pushing the boundaries" because there will be others, more or less advanced, in FF or APSC. It's truly amazing to see technology making a big leap forward again.
I understand your point, but FWIW I have had many cameras fail - never the shutter.
@@mattgranger Indeed a fair point 👌
I thought of pretty much everything you've mentioned. Thank you for not just hyping it up and bringing more concerning questions. I'm just really excited to see a big company finally putting in a global shutter into the camera. My bet was on Panasonic, but I guess Sony got more money to spend on RnD. :)
Sony supplies Panasonic it’s sensors.. it will be a couple years before Sony Semiconductors starts selling any full frame global shutter sensors for mirrorless use to their camera competitors ..
Very useful wrap up of this hot new camera. A lot to think about here and not just the price.
A huge step for the future of cameras. I think the 2nd generation of the Sony A1 will be much improved on the limitations of the A9 iii. Ultimately the trickle effect of the new tech is only good news for us users in the camera industry
I bounced 4-8 White Lightning 1500s at 1/8th to 1/4 power to light a hockey rink and was able to freeze action during a hockey game, synced at 250th iso 200 f/2.8. They had the rink lights on of course so it overpowered the ambient. This is when we had Nikon D1 and D2h bodies.
Well said Matt. Very logical assessment of the camera. Truly very niche. Can't say I will dump my A1 anytime soon.
Does the new firmware update for a1/a7siii include animal auto focus for video?
36mp with 80fps would have been a nice sweet spot. But anyway in near future global shutter gets default, what I am really shocked of is that the Bionz Xr chip is 8 times faster than the previous generation, that is amazing and a similar jump from Nikon Expeed 6 to 7.
First review that is spot on, sometimes we get caught up in marketing hype
Great objective video Matt 🙏🙏👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
informative on sony a9 mk III
I concur Matt. to put it Bluntly It comes with too many caveats and a high price tag. Definitely a niche camera.
Thank G there is Matt talking about the REALITY for the hyped HSP on SONY A9.
This camera would suit better in Sport and animals.
I’m a Canon r5 user, I wish canon will release a global shutter or just a stacked sensor camera that increases hss up to at lease 1/2000 for R5 ii even R6 iii would be awesome.
The screen is not a regular flip screen as you say. It's a hybrid flip/tilt as on the A7rv , so best of both worlds
I agree with everything you said Matt.
We quickly forget that we were content with 24MP just a few years ago. The Nikon D750 and also the Sony A7iii were one of my favorite cameras for wedding and it also had 24MP. You only need 8MP for a 4K monitor so we still have of room for cropping. I’m looking forward to global shutter future cameras though. Another benefit of shooting at 1/80,000 would finally be able to use wide open apertures in mid day sun without any ND filters.
You can do that at 1/16,000 easily.
@@mattgrangerI still have an older Sony A7Riii. So I’m still stuck at 1/8000. So I am looking forward to that when I upgrade.
@@mattgrangeryou can’t emulate global shutter with settings though man like come on
What do you mean @@hunterhawkins8754
@@ronyedindon't expect the same level of dynamic range from a9 iii. base iso is 250.
Matt I totally agree
I am an extensive Sony shooter, (and OM System for travel), and the advancement is exciting to see but I would not be an early adopter. Your post highlights some valid points.
0:27, where you browsing to find that clip?
the Stick figure animation? It is from Sony AI AF launch video (I think a7r5?)
Sony is just keep creating new demand.. true brand leader.
The "true global shutter" is a significant milestone, but Nikon's very close "just leave out the shutter" really is exactly that -- "very close". The one thing that sits in the background is that one or two leaf shutter lenses (I think something like 85mm 1.4 and 45mm 1.2) would bring enough capability to any of the competitors to keep them in the hunt for a while. And really, I don't think it would be hard to do this (along with some re-programming with a firmware update for the bodies).
As a Nikon user I can tell you the Nikon approach does not counteract flicker in the same way as a global shutter. In some ways it’s ’very close’, but not all
Great to see Sony moving goal posts which will as you say prompt others to follow. Processing power and heat created from this will become more of an issue to resolve as manufacturers move towards higher megapixel global shutters
Thank you Matt for this very good assessment of the Sony A9III.
Here are my 5cents to that.
The main advantage of the GS is no more mechanical shutter(MS) ! The MS is expensive and the major lifetime limit of a camera. The faster sync time is just a better use case. If the GS-chip can be build to a similar price as sensors cost today, then the GS will push the MS out.
Question: Is a CFexpress-Card Type A fast enough to write the data coming from the A9III ?🤔
No. No card format can write 120 full raw files a second. Thats not really the issue. If the buffer is huge and fast, it may work fine. TBC.
Great for event / concert photography? Seeing a shift to LED video walls in many venues. Probably will see a fx? video camera with global shutter being released soon.
Your Tesla analogy was great. This was the first thing that came to my mind too
Hi Matt, I NEVER comment on ANY videos. On this one, I must. CONGRATULATIONS for putting into context what the new Sony A9III's amazing performance means and implies! So, so many people(most?) get hung up on specs and marketing hype, forgetting what it all means. Loved the video mate. Don't expect Sony to contact you, big money company of any sort do not like it when people think and read between the lines, they even like less when those people tell others about their findings! Cheers, Ray.
Thanks for the great summary and review. I assume that by Niche you mean specialized.
If that is the case most of the cameras in front of you are niche products (including that beautiful Hasselblad).
I agree, that it is a NICHE camera, But to some extent all these expensive cameras are niche (probable except for the A1 and Z9 that can do anything even reduce their MP if wanted). 1DXIII, Nikon D6, R3, low MP specialized (niche) cameras for sport.
A base ISO of 250 in a full frame global shutter is insane!
keep up the good work
Thank you for the objective walk-through comparing the specs with other current full frame models and pointing out the few under-specs when compared with the mechanical shutter models. The base ISO 250 does bring up the question of the missing DR information that Sony usually provide when introducing their new cameras or maybe a way to differentiates it with the yet to come A1 II that may have lower base ISO and over the top DR to justify the extra $$,$$$. It's an "Early Adapter" camera where the R&D $$$ will be funded while Sony will surely sell the Global Shutter technology to all the current Sony sensor equipped camera manufactures for their new Medium Format, Full Frame, APS-C, 1", Micro 4/3....for their NEW INCREATABLE PREMIUM FLAGSHIP cameras and trickles down to medium & lower price range models for the next 10+ years now they have purposely inflated the second highest model closely behind the A1 and a marketing tester to see how consumer will respond to it's specs vs $$$.
Can’t wait for the tech to eventually trickle down to their lower models.
Just another natural technology step in the evolution of digital camera technology. Well done Sony on being first!👏🏾 I look forward to Nikon refining it and eventually bringing out a Z9II with a global shutter too in the near future.👍🏾😎. 🏴🇸🇪🇹🇹
Probably be a couple years before Sony semiconductors starts selling that particular sensor to Nikon.. it was 3 years before they started selling a similar version of the original a9’s stacked sensor to Nikon..
@@johnsoncityaerialphotograp7201 No doubt correct but I am in no particular rush! 😎 If I was or I find a pressing need, I will be betting on the Canon R1 giving me what I need and I would add it to my kit bag when the time comes. 👍🏾
I thought the first global shutter mirrorless from Sony or Canon would have been an APS-C format (from their respective industrial/security divisions) so this is a good news no matter what price it is at the moment (not for my pockets). A9 series is "niche" to me anyway, but it's a good thing. Technology always trickles down from top to bottom, so in a decade we'll have a7 mark 8 with 48MP global shutter sensor selfie stick that A.I.'s everything for you😜
PS
The autofocus is drifting on the camera you filmed yourself with.
Canon had super 35 global out years back - in their cinema range.
@@mattgranger probably at a few hundred thousand dollars, no doubt....
Nah, maybe 20
So, what is the difference between Global shutter and stacked sensor in terms of solving the rolling shutter issue? Isn't that like a stacked sensor was the solution to address the rolling shutter issue? What are the advantages of having a Global shutter over a stacked sensor?
The instant readout.
Your “niche” label seems apt to me. Given the narrow ISO range, this camera will be light hungry. So for well lit sports (especially winter sports on a sunny day) and snowy wildlife scenes, this camera will opens up a lot of creative possibilities. Outside of that? I’m not at all sure what to expect, and overall I suspect we’re several years from having a global shutter camera which can readily compete with the broader dynamic range and pixel densities of higher end progressive scan sensors.
The phrase of the DAY is, ...... "This camera will be light hungry". The camera is loaded with technology but it is "niche" and "light hungry"
How would you make use of the benefits of Global Shutter?
For sports in bright sun, to get perfect contact with the ball: baseball, tennis, volleyball, football (kicking the game-winning field goal)...
Fast moving sports - cuts the time I have to spend at the tennis court, trying to get the perfect shot when the strings hit the ball, by 10x. Sunset portraiture - eliminates the need to bring more than my speedlights because no more HSS. Balancing moving subjects with ambient - allows me to freeze motion while not killing ambient without HSS. Silent shooting under horrible LED lights.
Good analysis. As an R&D engineer, we talk about leading edge vs bleeding edge. This sounds like a bleeding edge camera.
Matt, I'm trying to think of a situation where I could even get enough light to create a picture using the 1/80,000 shutter sync, but can't. Can you?
crank up the ISO...
If it had been at least 33mp I would have jumped on it and upgraded from the a9ii. I don't shoot sports as much as I used to and need more of a hybrid. I will try and hold out for the a1ii. I feel like I will get more with my money from the new 300mm f2.8. 📷📸🎥
If you don’t need ultra high flash power I recommend the Rotolite Neo 3 Pro .. it’s the highest power LED in its class but easily keeps up with the near 30fps of my a1 when shooting say basketball dunks or other sports/ advertising situations where flash is allowed
I hired an A7RV and REALLY loved the screen and wish others would implement. Best of all worlds. That said...not for me though I'm sure I'll check it out when it gets to the rental houses.
Cant wait for sony a7RVI with global shutter
Thanks Matt. Interesting discussion. I think one very niche application will be in science labs. Imagine being able to freeze biological processes at the cellular level by fluorescence microscopy in living cells or study a particular locomotory function in an insect.
Several reviewers have talked as though the lack of shutter, pre-snap buffering, and elimination of rolling shutter artefacts had not already been addressed by the Nikon Z9. It seems to me the advantage gain with the new Sony is in 120 FPS in raw format versus jpeg for the Z9, but that is counterbalanced by 45mp for the Z9 versus 24mp for the Sony. Synching at higher speeds is fine, but the same effect can be achieved now with filters. A true global shutter is a remarkable technical achievement, but in practical terms, the Z9 and Z8 are competetive.
Agree with a lot of that, however filters are not a practical or equivalent substitute for faster flash sync.
What do you mean by screen? It has the same screen as the A7r V, not the same as the Nikon Zf.
I rarely shoot at 20 fps. Other then not having the roller shutter effect, it doesn't give me any advantage for the type of shooting I do.
Komodo is large next to this and doesn't have this level of inner stabilization with AI based auto focus. My question is: Does it overheat? Can I film with it 4 hours with no issues or not?
Just because they are both global shutter cameras, and both $6k, you can't expect the Sony to do what the Red does, or vice versa. They are completely different machines.
That 1/80000 sec shutter speed is going to be handy though the next time I'm shooting landscapes on the sunny side of Mercury ;)
At 120 frames per second, and the battery for 400 shots, then youll be swapping the batteries a lot... Or have i got that wrong?
Battery ratings are done according to CIPA testing protocols. Not at full speed bursts.
With high shutter speeds feeding two smaller Type A cards, with slower write speeds, there will be buffer issues and heat build-up, even though the high burst speeds are probably with compressed RAW. Let's hope they use V4 CFe cards and not the current generation, but wait, doesn't that mean they are only as fast as our current V3 Type B cards? @@mattgranger
What sync speeds will one realistically be able to expect with such a camera, for lighting systems like Godox and similar? Will 1/1000 be fine? 1/2000? It's true that 1/80,000 felt like marketing, but after accounting for the differences with a base of ISO250, by how many more stops will one actually be able to kill daylight when using non-specialty lighting systems? Just 1-2, or dramatically more than that?
The old nikon D70s with it's CCD sensor believe it or not was a gobal shutter and in my testing with godox kit I was able to get up to 1/1250 in real world use using one of their older XT-16 triggers (1/1000 if you used on of their newer xpro triggers) beyond that it's just didn't work but maybe that's because they designed this system with tolerances that only needed to realistically work within 1/250 sync maybe there's room to improve on a future trigger
I watched your video after having read the specifications of this camera and agree completely with your comments, they will of course irritate many but one really needs to look at the type of work one does and decide if this camera is going to allow you to make more money with your camera, take shots you couldn't do before, allow you to offer results you can't get any other way to justify the cost. If you strip out the sensor and the global shutter benefits, this body with a standard 24MP BSI sensor would probably be $2,500.00 at the most, so to me you are paying an awful lot of money ($3,500 at least) for this global shutter feature. 1/80,000 of a second flash sync speed sounds cool but is a marketing tool, your flashes output will be so minimal at this speed most flashes will be useless (If they can work at all at that level). A big error is staying with the CFE-A cards which are much slower than the CFE-B especially when you are going to plug the 120FPS RAW feature, not much good when you cripple this feature with your choice of memory cards. You duly note the flash features benefit Portrait and Wedding Photographers but they typically want Higher resolution camera bodies. The 120FPS Raw with pre-release will be cool for bird photographers but I don't see how this is a game changer for sports photographers who shoot jpeg a lot anyway. New tech like this is exciting and was the next evolution of camera technology so my congrats to Sony 👏👍, but until costs drop significantly on these sensors, you really need to do your homework when deciding to buy one, whether it's this camera, a Sony A1, Nikon Z8/9 or the future Canon R1. Thanks Matt - Jeff
I’ll be curious what technology in flash they’ll develop to best utilize global shutter technology. Instead of a crazy power bank, they need to use a more powerful capacitor to decrease flash duration. It has always been nice but with a global shutter a super fast flash duration will have a lot more utility.
I think the thing to keep in mind here is, this is an A9. So a few of your comments didn't seem to take that into consideration. The A9 line IS a niche product line. It's intended for sports photography. The A9 line has always been 24mp. I'm glad to see you point out some of the "fine print" items like its 250 single gain ISO. I'm really interested to see the effect that has in its image quality. Most of all, I hope this will cause Sony to start bringing down the stacked sensor technology to my level of camera, the A7 series.
Have a great trip and, cheers.
Good point about A9 being for sport. Many of the things i have seen promoting/reviewing this have been about video and flash portraits...
Sony offers an battery grip for the A9 III too!
Matt, it’s the same LCD as the R5. It offers a multi axis best of all worlds articulation.
As for the reference to the back LCD, around 10:26 - from what Ive seen, it isn't necessarily "a vlogging type" screen as it can also be manipulated just like the one on the Z9: up, down, and to the sides. I think it is a healthy compromise that should appease (and appeal to) both photo- and videographers.
You’re right.
I think this is an amazing breakthrough in camera technology. I think it's definitely a game changer. There are some issues with it. The ISO starts at 250. That might not be a bad thing though. A lot of Fugi cameras start around 200. But their type A cards are going to be an issue even with a 24 MP sensor. There's a lot of data being written onto that card at 120 fps even if it has a large buffer it's still going to hit that wall fairly quick. But I believe this camera is needed. I can't wait to see what photographers can do with it. What if Nikon has a global shutter and they put it in the z6 III at a lower price than the a9 III? I don't Nikon comes out with one soon but it would be cool if they did.
That iso starting higher will also kill the dynamic range.
@@techsuvara No one shoots fast moving objects at iso 100, so it doesn't matter. Everyone shooting things like sports or birds in flight are giving up dynamic range because they are always upping their ISO to get as much shutter speed as possible. ISO 100 is for landscapes and portraits, that is not what this camera is intended for at all.
I commented to the other person as well, but the reason why iso 250 doesn't matter is because no one shoots fast moving objects at less than iso 250 anyways. No one is picking iso 100 over shutter speed in these situations. Sony already has the a7RV if you need maximum dynamic range.
@@RiposteThis I do BIF with low iso, and prefer it to keep the dynamic range high, especially on the Z9.
Perhaps “kill” the dynamic range is an excessive reply, but it reduces the scope of its application.
@@techsuvara LOL, with what lens and are you flying beside it? Come on now. Even on a bright day, most zooms for birds in flight are coming in around F6.3 with sharpness maxing at f8, and you want your shutter speed at at least 1/1000 to up your chances of getting a sharp shot (most of the time I like shooting at 1/2000). That's going to put your ISO at 250 or above on a bright day. BUT EVEN THEN, you don't need a ton of dynamic range for BIF or sports. And with new age cameras, ISO 1000 or ISO 1600 will introduce barely any noise at all, so sacrificing shutter speed just so you can shoot at iso 100 is ridiculous.
wedding and event photogs will be happy to shoot completely silently without worries about banding, etc. etc. they'll also love shooting outdoors without worrying about shutter speed for flash. there's more....
Just a quick observation: Maybe the first generation global shutter we wait for the "bugs" to be worked out and wait for the 2nd generation global shutter. 2ndly Not sure there is enough benefit to justify $6K just on the body. Again my op. What does interest me is "Blad" medium format.