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My Overview of Pokemon Ultra Sun & Moon
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
- Hi friends! So today's video is gonna be taking a look at my opinions & experiences with the newest games, Ultra Sun and Moon.
I plan to make a Version Differences video for the games soon but first I wanted to try my hand at my first overview style video. I
t's kind of like a review, but the word review implies that this video has a structure when really it's just scripted rambles
All footage was recorded on my own legit games EXCEPT-
The Mohn cutscene is courtesy of Maxx Ezzy because I was pushed for time and couldn't record it.
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Um I can't think of what to put for a comment so I'll just say this: I like cadbury mini rolls
CandyEvie Haha XD
CandyEvie me too lol
I LOVE ur vids ^_^
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Ikr and they are in canada (and yes im in canada)
Anyone notice that Team Rainbow Rocket's colors are red, yellow, green, and blue, which are the original Kanto games?
Holy shit, I never noticed that. Thanks for pointing it out.
What? Kanto? What's that I never heard of it
You mean like a rainbow?
TheGrandRevo Kano is a Pokemon region
I think it's just a coincidence. let's be real most thinks that feature multiple colors in cartoons are those specific colors.
Necrozmas dex entry does mention that if it doesn't consume light, impurities build up which then cause it to stop moving. So it's possible that it's really doing it out of survival.
Imperial Darkness It's more because something or someone removed one of it's body parts from it (i think Z-crystals) so he's in a horrible pain , getting enraged.
That and yeah he needs light, maybe to survive.......... Anyway it's perfectly fine after the postgame thanks to your Z-Power Ring and Z-Crystals, plus you have the legendarys
Imperial Darkness Light Type in Gen 8 Confirmed!
Necrozma, literally turned evil because it was hungry.
At least Giratina got annoyed by the destroyed balance in space-time and Kyurem was tortured and mind controlled into doing Ghetsis’s bidding.
@@Sevenizer1 well, we have a hangry hamster now.
So that's a thing.
Matthew Williams Yes and I like it. I like it a lot.
Two words, Lillie stays
Just saying, all it takes to make ultra infinitely better
Battling with her was cool too.
I think the ultra outcomes do her, Gladion, and Hau's storylines better
In the original she goes to Kanto and never comes back :'(
Agreed
Wait, SHE STAYS?
chi town south side world wide cause I
I use watch later. It's a lifesaver.
EDIT: Holy shit this got featured in a video thanks!
Flare Gamer 64 I know bro
Flare Gamer 64 I'll sometimes use it...
I have like almost 2000 videos in my watch later, its not public though.
Do you what subs be cas you not getting it
omg man57 Lear to spell
So, I've been Nuzlockeing this game without the Exp Share and so far I've lost two Pokemon on Melemele Island. I'm very scared of the future.
Wild Productions *N O T H I N G O U T S P E E D S*
*E V E R Y T H I N G D I E S*
Wild Productions may those two rest in peace
Wild Productions Idk if this is legal, but get honedge from island scan. Thank me later
Wild Productions watch for ultra necrozma:;)
Essance Fay ultra Necrozma swept my entire team with OHKOs my first try
How to win US/UM:
Step 1: Get a Gastly and have it learn curse
Step 2: Get max affection, speed and happiness
Step 3: Use curse on every single important boss Pokemon
Step 4: Stall for 4-10 turns to win the battle 😂
That was my entire playthrough.
Tonster869 that was my strategy!!!
Platinum probably changed more than USUM did, for the record.
But I think the reason people were upset with them changing so little was the fact that they were seemingly set up to be like Black 2/White 2. Advertised with a new storyline and all. Not only that, but every other time a game has just been an "improvement", like Platinum, Emerald, etc. it has been one version. Not an entire new set of games that are basically marketed like their own standalone titles.
I mean, I'm not saying I agree with all the USUM hate (because although I know what the games added and all, I have hardly picked it up to play it - I got it a couple/few weeks ago and I've barely started just because I don't want to at the moment) but that's probably why they were such a disappointment. The fact that it's two versions also now feels more like a "cheap tactic" to get people to buy both simply due to version exclusives, when it's already so similar to S/M.
I think you know where those of us who dislike USUM are coming from - (Spoiler Warning Here for USUM, SuMo, and Gen V)
Like you said, they were set up in the way BW2 were. While USUM aren’t necessarily sequels, They were set up as an “all-new” story. Aaaand then they weren’t. Sure, it didn’t take ~30 minutes to get our starter, and there were some amazing new features (Mantine Surf, a few new Pokemon, some new Z-Moves being the most notable additions that I enjoy) so yeah, they were okay games... on their own.
I played through Sun when it came out, and I bought Ultra Sun thinking it would be like BW2 in a way (that is how GF kinda made us think about it.) I found it dissapointing. The Ultra Recon Squad felt tacked on and somewhat unimportant, and the major story differences? They didn’t show up until really late game.
The new story of USUM was dissapointing as well. They sacrificed Lillie’s arc for Lusamine and Hau! Her “Z-Powered form” scenes feel out-of-place and her arc feels much less important than it was before. It just wasn’t an enjoyable experience for someone who had played Sun the year before.
Then, the games they had hyped it up to be like (mainly BW2 to BW) were so much better. There WAS a different story, and it was interesting. It was much less hand-holdy (I know this as I’m replaying Black 2 and White 2 was my first game, though I’ve played every game since then and gone back to play older ones as well) so when they stole the dual forms thing and didn’t even bother to change a majority of the storyline? That was frustrating.
I think that’s where a majority of the hate stems from. It was too similar for those of us who had played the games before, and it took SuMo’s story and kind of ruined it... It was a step back in story, and it felt lazy, like GF just slapped a bandaid on SuMo and said, “Release it as an ULTRA version.” It felt a bit like a cheap cashgrab, and I had wanted to enjoy the games!
@Pokémon & FF fan Lusamine had a ultra beast fetish because of Nihilego's toxins
No they changed more than platinum, but platinum felt like it changed more because of how many problems there were in diamond and pearl
@@Officewaffle I do think that gen 4 has way to many issues to be ignored and I honestly don’t get why they’re more popular games than gen 5 when you consider how good it was and is
I love these games, also I use my watch later list all the time
Shawn McMillan same
Shawn McMillan
My 264 videos in my watch later list also agree.
Shawn McMillan Hey my name is greninja and I’m
New to RUclips would you do me a huge favor by subscribe to my channel thanks so much ruclips.net/video/dm72T897Ls4/видео.html
I use it like a favorite's tab. lmao Just in case I need to look at the videos again.
Shawn McMillan same
It took me SUPER long to get through the first island because I’ve already done it and it’s too much hand holding
Kiwi Kiwi I’m still friggin on it! Been busy since the game came out and it’s also SOOOOOOOO tedious. Otherwise I love it but still.
Psycane i promise you the mantine Surf makes it worth getting through, but it took me soooo long to realise how to get height. I’m only on kiawe rn lol
At least they change it up enough so it doesnt feel like a total slough. You actually get your stater in half the time it takes normally.
TheIOFG true, and it’s really cool to see all the small differences that fit together in the early part of the game
TheIOFG yeah I was happy to get my starter so much quicker than in Sun and Moon
Ultra moon was my first ever Pokémon game, I loved every second of it, the battles, the music, the story (which I normally don't care for), the world. It was such a unique concept, I loved how the different areas where islands, that you could summon a Charizard, or Machamp at a moment's notice, all of it
USUM was by FAR my favorite games of all of pokemon. Due to replay value. Absolutely loved these games.
How can you actually replay these with all the unskippable cutscenes and hand holding though?
@@Hatchumosc1honestly i think it’s only replayable if you haven’t played it in like 4 years, the endgame is worth it with the wormholes and battle tree
@@allenlivsey Don't forget the special events
I use my Watch Later list extensively.
Shayma98 ME TOO!😍😍😍😍😉
It's useful when you have to sleep and have to turn off your phone but there is that one vid that pops up in your notification that would disappear if you turn off, there you just click watch later and it's remembered there and you can view it later!😍😍😍😍😉
Raphaël Khoury Quit spamming emojis
I have over 700 videos in my watch later list...
Shayma98 so do i
same, but thats because when on on the youtube homepage i see a lot of videos that interest me, but can only watch one
I use watch later everyday, other people don't?
Emmy Farrell I also use watch later sometimes and it's really handy!😍😍😍😍😉
Same it's like nature for me
yea i use it all the time
That's weird... when I see a video I want to watch, I just open it in a new tab. Why have an arbitrary list that I might not remember to look at, when I can simply have them cluttering my tab bar? It gives me incentive to actually watch the videos I clicked on, so I don't just set it and forget it.
Chris Reyes I’m mobile until my PC can get fixed so it makes things a lot easier, besides I don’t like the clutter of 50,000 tabs open.
I think Ultra Sun and Moon are great remakes, I just wish they were more upfront with it prior to release. They pushed so heavily about the Team Rainbow Rocket thing, leading me to believe it was more of a sequel. Instead it's basically like the Rayquaza/Deoxys section of Omega Ruby/Alpha Saphire.
coltsfan354 They said "alternate" version but yeah.......
I think GameFreak missed the Sun Moon hype, AND the community were worried about the lack of hype and were pushing for it, so I think Gamefreak overhyped thise games............
They should have simply sticked to their mitigated silence and not ALWAYS listen to the people.........
Otherwise, taken apart, USUM is AMAZING for the time period they had to make them!😍😍😍😍😉
coltsfan354 Then you clearly haven’t been on the internet for a while then. They stated that it would be a post game “episode” like in ORAS
i just wish brendan met Archie in Ultra sun and Moon i mean rse Archie...
MagicalShark you're right, I hadn't. I watched the videos from The Pokemon Company, but otherwise I kept my ears closed to avoid spoilers.
in a way the arent really remakes or sequels its more of just a re-image of sun and moon cause its supposedly an alternate universe where the evil organizations of each region succeeded in there goals n thats why they have their respective legends
I have a feeling that you and auraguardian would get along.
Mainly because you don’t get into the drama trash that is the pokétubing community and you both make very high quality content that takes a lot of time.
7.8/10
Too tropical
Unown Pokemaster 7.8/10 too many pokemon
7.8/10 too much sun/moon
Dankest Memery 7.8/10 no walking pokemon
7.8/10 Poor people can't buy it
I think it's just fine. But some Pokémon don't even make sense..... BUNEARY?!?!
I liked Pokémon Sun and Moon a whole lot and getting updated versions were neat! I would've liked the *Pokémon to follow me though!!!*
It ducked that the games are lagging so much............ ugh
NirthPanter it's the kind of 3DS you have
DragonSlayre107 Nope. Mine's a New XL
Actually, I found US/UM to be less laggy than Sun and Moon. Sure they slowed down a little bit during double battles, but never to the point of crashing like they're predecessors.
negspirito Well that's interesting given that they aren't optimised at all compared to the originals. Also, if they crashed, you need to get a new system.
Quack
Is it just my experience or does the Ultra Wormhole travel part have bad hit detection? I missed a lot of the speed boost even when I clearly touched them and I sometimes go straight through portals....and I don’t mean entering them.
PikaTheProsperous welcome to gyrometer controls.
It does. I've experienced the same thing. Regardless of whether using circle pad or gyroscope controls.
M8 go to the Nintendo building and turn them off in game it's on the second island
i think the hit detection is really good actually. the hitbox for the portals is a little in front of them, so if you move sideways into a portal you'll miss it, which is fine for when you need to navigate around tight corners. and i'm able to get all the gold coins i want. yes, perhaps what youre seeing onscreen doesnt match perfectly with what the game is doing, but it's designed well enough to become extremely addictive and IMO non-frustrating.
Never ever ride on lunala... solgaleo‘s hitbox is so much more accurate... solgaleo is also easier to control
Honestly, USUM is my favorite game in the series because it improves upon my previous favorite, Sun and Moon, while also giving new features. If it is thought as a sister game rather than a sequel, it is much more satisfying.
I turned off the exp share for two routes. I’m fifteen levels under-leveled.
Also we have minirolls in the US, but their named “Swiss rolls.”
@@edgenoquality2620 random fun fact
"Perhaps because I'm not a child anymore and I have other priorities like making food" - suddenly I want to try what Lucy's cooking tastes like :3
THANK YOU for pointing out the highly disappointing lack of national dex mode!
nintendo/game freak put the national dex behind a paywall, it's part of the pokebank
I don't understand the hype around National Dex. It's incredibly obnoxious, making the Shiny charm impossible to get for casual players or people who have not played earlier games. Additionally, if you have played the earlier games, what's so fun about just transferring hundreds of Pokémon to fill the National Dex again and again each generation? Besides, that can be used as a bad shortcut to fill the Dex almost immediately, defeating the whole purpose of catching Pokémon in-game.
The way it is now is much better. The shiny charm is accessible for everyone and there's no constant transferring of Pokémon. The only negative there might be is that you can't read the Dex entries if you don't have Poké Bank. But let's be honest, who actually reads them in-game? Everyone check the Dex entries from the internet anyway. Plus, if we got a National Dex, we would still need Poké Bank to transfer the Pokémon to a new game. So then you would already have Poké Bank with the Dex entries, why would the new game need a National Dex on top of that? It's just pointless repetitiveness and would make the Shiny charm behind a massive wall.
Speaking of walls, the argument of having the Pokédex behind a "paywall" is kind of ridiculous since the price is very cheap and lasts a year. Add to that the fact that Pokémon games are already cheaper than most other games, so you're not really paying anything extra. Anyone can make a fiver a year. Compare that to the massive cost of filling a National Dex for a new player. They would have to buy an earlier game from *every* generation to fill the Dex and get the Shiny charm. And that still wouldn't be possible because of event-only Pokémon. People hoping for National Dex need to understand their privilege of just transferring Pokémon from earlier gens, which the majority of players don't have.
Heresiarch, I don't think most of your arguments are valid, especially for a true Pokémon gamer. Firstly, getting a shiny charm via completing the national dex could be very fun and challenging, since in past games shiny Pokémon were much more rare and had more value. Even if you disagree with that, you would have to agree that this could be easily dealt with by adding a national dex and keeping a just a regional dex completion as a requirement.
About transferring Pokémon, it is easy to see why that would be fun or even necessary. It is a way to keep your old and dearly trained/caught Pokémon from older games usable today, and also a way to keep mons from other regions if you're gonna sell your older games for example. Or you could think of them as part of your memories in past journeys. And regarding the dex entries, yes, people DO read them and its even a frequent subject for RUclips videos. It is a way to make those games stories more rich and relatable. Also, every version and generation has a diferente text, adding more to the lore of each Pokémon. I love this feature and I'm sure I'm not alone.
Regarding the price of the bank, it really depends on the country, but for some people even a couple of bucks could make a difference to buy a new game or something important, so its hard to judge this one. Rather thant that, its really annoying having to close your game, opening the bank, and connecting to the internet (which is required to use it and a decent connection is not found everywhere) just to check a simple thing like an entry for a specific mon, stealing away any fun it may have had. The price of the games themselves are not lower than most games to intentionally compensate for the bank so it's really an invalid argument in my opinion. Their value are what they're worth for the market and that's that... and I can even give you a contrary example to that with ultra sun/moon which are basically DLCs for Sun and Moon and should be half the price they currently go for.
I still think the lack of a national dex was one of the fatal flaws in this gen. One of the many reasons it is my least favorite.
They could just make it a reward for completing the Alola Dex and have the National Dex for players that want to take the game even further beyond
More like highly disappointing lack of actual reason to buy this when Sun and mon exist
When Ultra Sun and Moon were coming out, I replayed Moon just so I can see the differences. But when I got to the after-story in Moon, I just couldn't bear going through it cause it was so boring.
So basically, Ultra Moon had a better after-story than Moon, but that's just me though.
You mean post game?
@@Sorday Mmhmm.. (；・∀・)
I like Looker and all,, But goodness, going on a fetch-quest wasn't fun. (´-﹏-`；)
Well I agree, but that 1,000,000 pokedollars though..
@@Sorday I completely forgot about that,, 😂
Y'know, I probs forgot cuz of how unmemorable that post-game's story was~. 😉😌
wait moon had an after story? i quit that sh*t once i wasin the hall of fame...
The reason why I don’t really agree with a lot of youtubers on the inclusion of national pokedex into the newer games is that there are now just, a lot of pokemons which makes it quite impossible for newer fans who only got USUM/SM as their pokemon games to finish the pokedex. I don’t really mind collecting pokemons from older generations, but the mythical ones... its quite impossible to get unless hacked.
I think keeping one regional pokedex is a good idea for newer games but gamefreak can probably add more pokemon to the roster, excluding the mythicals and legendaries. USUM was a great attempt at this.
Just my opinion though.
I agree completely. National Dex is bad, people just have nostalgia about it and can't comprehend the struggles of new players because they already have the luxury of transferring every Pokémon from earlier games.
Actually, to get some Mythical Pokémon, you must transfer them from an older game, same for Pokémon not obtainable in SM/USUM.
I prefer not having a National Dex. You don't need to go outside of these games for a 100% playthrough and you also get the Shiny Charm a lot more manageably.
I have the [ New ] 3DS XL and even in regular Sun and Moon the lag in double battles is pretty bad.
The lack of National Dex is especially baffling since they blatantly re-used the character models from X and Y. I did feel like they really phoned it in having so many Pokemon just completely unavailable and basically saying "I hope you have a Gen 6 game and a Bank subscription!" but between the lack of a national dex and the one-way nature of transferring (Seriously, why though?) I'm not exactly inspired to lock my Pokemon out of the games that I would actually want to revisit again, in favor of a region that won't even let you re-battle trainers.
TheShiniest Totodile You can rebattle epople in the Battle Tree AND at points after you finsih the main game.
AND i think they haven't included the useful National Dex because they would have had to maie a unique Pokedex Page stance for 800+ pokemon, and they already didn't have much time..........
But you can still trade to get Poekmon you want.............
I play on the New 2ds XL and haven't experienced much lag in double battles. Double battles to me are more fun this gen though with almost every pokemon being available. I wish there was a national dex too so I could see all the mega dex entries.
speedyav46 there IS mega evolution ehtrances as i saw them I THINK but some in my opinion are pretty creepy..........maybe they wanted to pish Z-Moves as the uktimate way to show your bind with your Pokemon so they made their entries that way.............
Raphaël Khoury I meant I wanted to see all the mega pokemon dex entries. Unfortunately there's quite a few missing like Blastoise's, both Mega Charizards, Mega Venusaur's, and some other Island scan pokemon. At least we can catch them but it would have been nice to see their dex entries.
Raphaël Khoury in fact z moves are the opposite of mega evolution they absorve humans energy after doing the poses the player gets tired when you use ultra necrozma z move
I’m afraid of under-leveling my Pokémon team. That’s why I don’t have a problem with exp. share
Yeah, I don't understand being against modern EXP. Share.
Previous to the change, I would have a top-heavy team. My starter or box legendary crazy overleveled and _destroying_ every battle, meanwhile my other 'mons were super underleveled and I didn't want to waste time buffing them up before I could actually use them.
Modern EXP. Share is a blessing for variety.
I think it's more due to how broken it was in 6th gen with how the leveling system was. tweaking it gen7 made things more fair with little grinding
even with the exp all you can get destroyed by some of the late game battles
Cameron Sweet
I never said I ran from battles or skipped trainers. I've fought every trainer I've came across. Almost every random battle I've fought. And every game I had an incredibly overleveled Starter because all the random 'mons in the area were severely lower level and it was a _chore_ to catch anything up you might have caught earlier.
I've never had trouble with these games... This has nothing to do with difficulty.
Good for you. Glad you enjoyed something. I didn't, many people didn't, and there you go. Switch off the Share if you don't like the change. Complaining about a feature in hopes of it being removed is selfish. You're denying a more fun game to other people even though you don't need to touch the Share at all if you don't want to.
Enjoyment is subjective, and to many people, if there is no gain, there is no enjoyment (reward). Spending time before something fun can be done is... simply wasted time. I could be using that time doing something else. *Don't waste my time.*
I happen to love RPGs, don't assume things. A good RPG makes grinding enjoyable. Made it not *feel* like grinding. Pokemon has never done this. With the new system in place, I could easily change _my entire team_ on a whim and not lose any significant time. Prior to Gen 6, you'd be boned the moment you left your Starter or other lead 'mons behind. Do you really want to be shackled to the same six Pokemon the *entire* game?
Battle leads with Abra > Switch to Starter... ad nauseam. Not fun for most people, and not "rewarding". I don't know where this idea comes from in certain people. You're not being rewarded by wasting time, you're being *forced* to participate in a time sink for some goal. That's like saying you're being "rewarded" for spending thousands of dollars for a vehicle. No, you're spending money to some end.
Cameron Sweet
What do you even want me to say at this point?
You clearly haven't been understanding a word I've said.
I *never once* said I had any difficulty with these games. Get that through your skull.
I'm playing the game for my enjoyment. If I'm not enjoying it, I have every right to wish things change for me. In this case, they did, and I'm glad they did.
You don't like the change, and that's all it is. You can argue all you want, but your opinions aren't going to change anything.
I'm not going to argue with yet another person who can't accept differing tastes.
Get good
would have been better if they didn't split up the content into 2 versions. Really ruins the difinitive version type thing, it's split, so their existance is pretty much void.
boop bap yes exactly!
My biggest problem with USUM is the fact that the climax feels so lazy. Like you mentioned, Ultra Megalopolis or whatever it's called is incredibly disappointing, equating to what is basically a hallway and is NOTHING like it was advertised to be.
(SPOILERS)
The fight with Ultra Necrozma was one of the most blatant and egregious forms of forced difficulty I have ever seen. Black and White 2 were difficult because the trainers had strong Pokemon with special movesets and items, USUM is hard because it's cheap. I went into the Ultra Necrozma fight with a Salamence, Salazzle, Tropius, Krookodile, Ampharos, and a 6IV Vaporeon. The only reason I even had a chance of winning that fight was because of my Vaporeon, and only because it was 6IV. Yeah, I know the trick with Zoroark, but the fact that you HAVE to cheap out Ultra Necrozma to not get destroyed utterly is completely ridiculous. To me, that is USUM's biggest failing.
That said, I really do enjoy the games, and they took a ton of steps in the right directions. The trials were interesting, the game had much better pacing and felt more finished than SuMo, there were tons of little sidequests and even more tons of little things to do when you're finished with your adventure. Rainbow Rocket was the best postgame of the 3D era, and the added Pokemon, minigames, and shiny hunting method make this feel like a game I can always come back to. If I had to rate it, I'd give USUM a 7/10, compared to the 6/10 I'd give Sun and Moon. It's the Sun and Moon we should've gotten, and thats really the best thing I can say about it. It's good, it's Pokemon.
Also I caught a Shiny Murkrow in the first couple hours of playing the game so...that's cool
I enjoyed the UN fight as it was probably the best single mon boss fight we've had in the series where most ended with either a masterball or a really hard hitting attack. even the dusk mane/dawn wings fight was pretty easy
I also had a hard time hitting back at it due to the totem boost but it gave me a great moment where my starte was able to survive on 1 HP and knock it out
I'd just destiny bond it, since I despise the thing,
i didn't use zoroark lol, it wasn't THAT hard, but it was pleasantly challenging
Violet Vappy the thing i hate about USUM is the Rotom-Dex... it nevers shuts up ...
Still haven't finished this game yet since I got it late (November birthdays woo...) but so far I'm really enjoying this game. I'm playing with the Exp. Share firmly switched off and yeah, I've actually had trouble with a few of the important battles thus far (I've just beaten Olivia who took 2 attempts, mainly because my team isn't all fully evolved yet.). So far, my team MVP has been my Grimer simply because of it's Poison Fang and typing. Noibat though tries her best and has had some great moments and Dartrix managed to win an hilarious stall battle against one of the Totems and actually took Continental Crush from Olivia's Lycanroc before proceeding to win the battle. :D
Azdaja It's memory's like these that make Pokemon so special and fun!😍😍😍😍😉
And Oh dear..........You have NO idea how powerful the Final Boss at Ultra Megalopolis is gonna be, ok no spoilers sry!😂😂😂😂😉
Yeah, my memories basically shaped my favourite Pokemon list... mainly because I only use Pokemon that I like to begin with. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. :D
Raphaël Khoury yeah that final ultra beast boss fight is hard. I wasn't gonna hop on the Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon wagon because I thought it was over hyped. I liked Ultra Sun better than Sun but it's because Sun wasn't great to begin with. They made Lusamine more likable. And just to give you a heads-up warning: I grinded my Dusk Lycanroc to level 80 and still got 1 shot fainted by the "boss" and I had my Lycanroc ev trained and such. I max revived it and used roto boosts and roto HP restores. I had a bunch of those because I didn't have any use for them until the Megalopolis boss. It was my fault though because I assumed I over leveled Lycanroc so I had lower level Pokemon that I was leveling up to evolve so every Pokemon I had was waaayy underleveled. I actually enjoyed it though because this was harder than Cynthia was in gen 4 and the only reason I even won was all the Rotom Dex loto powers I had...
Raphaël Khoury lmao my zoroark two hit it with foul play I’m on ultra sun and it was underleveled
Right, beat Ultra Nrcrozma now. Did it on my first attempt too with my fairly underlevelled team (I play with the Exp. Share firmly switched off) though it was a near thing. It was mainly a team effort since my Zoroark got one shot but a good team effort of Decidueye, Noivern and the one who has now earned the title of "Godslayer" Golisopod brought it down. Good fight, reminds me of Shinryu from FF5 a lot. xD
when people say this game could have been a dlc, i say "When has pokemon had a DLC, Furthermore a paid DLC?"
Edit: I know that some of the newer mystery dungeon games had DLC, but my point is on a main series Pokemon Game.
In the core games you mean
look to the free to play stuff and it's all over
Yea
The fact stands, that a cheaper DLC would be price wise more fair to the customer, because its basically a patch with added content. In other words: DLC/Addon
Yea
No one is saying that it SHOULD be a DLC, rather that it is LIKE a DLC. Just as saying that your mother is LIKE a snorlax, is not the same as saying your mother IS a snorlax. Understand?
We need US and UM differences and US/UM and S/M differences! I also use my Watch Later list.
Excellent review. I never really thought a lot about how alike Generation V & Generation VII really were until you brought up all the similarities they shared between them - they both made strong deviations from the stereotypical Pokémon formula like you mentioned, and I feel Generation VII, much like Generation V, will be looked back on really favourably in a few years time once the fickle expectations of the fandom have time to simmer down. Even if only for removing HMs, but hopefully for everything else it offers too!
And now you're making me cry after what you mentioned about white chocolate Oreos - why are we Brits so deprived of the truly splendorous things in life?! At least we have white Toblerones, but Brexit made them become tidgy :(
crashandcortex Yeah! Gen 5 and Gen 7 are basically sister Gens, they are both US states
And HECK SM even brought back Grimsley and USUM gave a MUCH more bigger role for my fav scientist Coleress!😍😍😍😍😉
And the two gakes BW2 and USUM have the best postgane ever I think!😍😍😍😍😉
Heck they even copied the fusion (poor kyurem😂😂) and the shorts (Nate-Sun)!
HAHAHAHAH don't be silly gen 5 was good gen 7 is god awful unless you like Kanto pandering up the ass, piss easy gameplay, varied locales, and lack of actual "enhancements" to this enhanced game of sun and moon
Darkfyraproductions Gen 5 wasn’t all that challenging. I mean USUM provide a good challenge at the same amount, and personality I think have a better post game
As for so much more to do, it has the World tournament, which is nice but that’s about it. The musical was boring and the movies was...okay I guess?
TheGrandRevo Pokemon has never really been that challenging. Heck I’d argue USUM postgame provides the series most challenge so far
TheGrandRevo As an avid Pokemon fan, I have played Gen 5 more than I can even count. I played it on release, and I am still playing it to this day. They are fun games, tbh. My most favorite generation, but Gen 7 is 2-3 spots below; meaning, they are so good. I agree with the Kanto pandering, but I disagree with everything else. varied locales? wdym? if anything, that’s a good thing. I loved the region design of Alola; in fact, I love it more than any other region, even Galar. Second, easy gameplay? Now, BW were easy, in my opinion; on the other hand, BW2 were the most difficult game I’ve ever played. When it comes to Gen 7, SM was challenging than Gen 6, but compared to Gens 3-5, it’s not that difficult. USUM, on the other hand WERE challenging. I can’t even recall how many times I’ve lost and struggled in that game; it was really fun! Lastly, when it comes to enhancements, USUM were actual enhancements; heck, they did more than any other 3rd version, as they added mantine surfing, ultra warp ride, TONS of sidequests, Battle Agency, and so much more. I really disdain the fact that there people who shit on USUM, yet are praising Emerald and Platinum; it’s just hypocritical of the toxic Pokemon community. Anyway, Gen 5 and Gen 7 are more than amazing generations. They both changed the Pokemon for the better, in my opinion. Honestly, if it weren’t for Gen 5, I would’ve not been a big Pokemon fan today, and if it were not for Gen 7, I would’ve been burned our of Pokemon for basically shoving in the same thing every other generation. In summary, I loved Gen 5 and 7. Though, in my opinion, the former trumps the latter, they are both very stunning, creative, amazing generations that I hope Gen 9 will replicate.
0:52 “I recommend adding this to your Watch Later list!.... does anyone even use that?” *I HAVE 207 VIDEOS IN MY WATCH LATER LUCY*
“Exp made play throughs too easy”
From a breeze to a cakewalk sure lol
Exp share as it is now is fine, they just need to make the campaign itself more of a challenge or have a more difficult game mode… why take ask to take away when asking for more solves the problem much more effectively?
I'm having trouble getting through Ultra Sun tbh. The amount of times the adventure is halted by a cut scene, road block, and/or forced character interaction really pulls me out of the gaming experience by killing my ability to immerse myself fully into the adventure. The severe lack of freedom caused mostly by unavoidable interruptions *just* as I'm starting to get into the flow frustrates me so much in US that I keep turning the game off, sometimes for a couple of days at a time. I didn't seem to have as much of an issue with this when playing both Sun and Moon, as I think there is even less freedom in US/UM.
The lack of new pokemon is also a ridiculous missed opportunity on Game Freaks part, especially considering how easy it *could* have been, given all they had to do was tinker around with the design of an already existing pokemon and call it a new Alola form. I mean, they gave us a new lycanroc form but just added the same old Kanto form ekans and arbok, really???
h6hfelie Alola is way to forced I miss B2 And W2, HG and SS, and Platinum. Those were fantastic.
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Now I could definitely bother myself to do a let's play/playthrough of Ultra Moon, just that I am too stressed at the method of getting a 3DS system set up for video capture.
As for Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, the original Sun/Moon became my new favorite generation (original being Generation III) and with an improved version, I love it even more.
Though it is going to be really sad these are the final Pokemon games to be on the 3DS lineup and I really wish that they somehow expand upon the Alola region, it has a lot of potential if you ask me.
And Lillie, _especially_ Lillie, she is truly a one of a kind character and in my eyes, the most developed character in the series, and I *really* hope she returns in future installments.
(Im know this is an old video but i wanted to share my opinon) I personally feel like if when Sun and Moon where meant to come out they had just said “hey give us an extra year and the game will be even better” cause playing Ultra Sun after playing Sun....it really felt like they just shipped a 80%/85% finished game, even tho alot of it was just Polish and QOL
Someone finally talked about how unfair it is people bashing out USUM because it barely changed anything from SM, and yet they are the same people who praise Emerald and Platinum even though they ALSO BARELY CHANGE ANYTHING
They actually change a whole lot less than USUM
We "praise" Emerald and Platinum because DLC wasn't possible back then, unlike the 3DS era. And these versions changed a lot of the character development Lillie and Lusamine had in the originals.
Also Platinum improved a lot of things: visuals, speed, post-game content...
UltraSun and UltraMoon should have been DLC.
YoHaNe nope, save data for Pokemon games is stored on the cartridge while whether you have dlc is stored on the console. That would have proven to be a big problem if they were dlc. They could have found a way, but if they spent time doing that it would have led to low-effort dlcs. No one wins here, no matter what gamefreak does, and the Pokemon company would not have let the games be delayed.
Though they should have kept the character development in.
@@Officewaffle A lot of 3DS games have DLC and there's NO PROBLEM with the save data being in the game card and the downloaded content in the SD Card.
In fact, Game Freak actually patched the games to fix some bugs and glitches, so they could've added the additional content to Sun/Moon (games that even have empty spaces for the Alola Photo Club!), but they decided it was better to make the games obsolete only a year after the release 😃.
Emerald is my all time favourite pokémon game
When you actually use the watch later list........
OMG someone who actually took a step back and actually looked at USUM for what they are instead of just saying that "these games are horrible because its exactly like S&M"
"I don't even want to attempt these games with the Exp Share off!"
Yeah, good judgement. It's pure torture.
1:53 Actually, no. USUM have less changes then Emerald and Platinum. It's like they attached a bandade to Sun and Moon and called it a day. The Ultra Recon Squad appeared a few times, but it felt like they didn't need to be there. It feels rushed, incomplete and rather unoriginal. They tried to do the Black and White 2 thing with Necromza's forms, but other then that, why was there a need for 2 versions? Platinum at least had huge changes to a lot of areas and added new areas too. Not to mention more exclusive features.
And maybe USUM are like this because it only had 1 year of development time. Platinum and Black and White 2 had 2 years of development time, while Emerald took almost 2 years of developing.
I hope the Switch game won't dissapoint. I hope it releases in at least 2019. 2020 would be great. 2018 is too soon. 2 years of developing isn't enough for an entirely new generation. Especially since Diamond and Pearl and Black and White took 4 years to develop. X and Y took 3 years, and look how rushed that game was. The 3DS Pokemon game just feel rushed in general.
Gameplayer 119 yea sure whatever u say
It's pretty obvious you haven't played the game yet.
Lmao what platinum and emerald have added that USUM did not at least I could understand for bw2 but platinum and emrald XD .
UsUm added fusions,new pokemons,new z moves,more legendaries than ever,team raimbow rocket with all old bad guys wile platinum and emerald were just like the same game that got fusionated to each other so that there is not any exclusivity to anything .
look man, these opinions make sense, but did you really have to start it off with that condescending "actually, no" it really comes off like you treat your opinions as facts. " *I* didn't think that these games made many changes so that means you're wrong" I'm all for you expressing your opinion, but don't treat it as a bloody fact.
I lost to Ilima, and Giovanni from Team Rainbow Rocket in Ultra Sun, even though I beat Ilima, with some effort in Pokémon Sun and moon, making the harder difficulty visible for me. In Ultra Moon, I lost to Alolan Marowak and Veteran Akira.
they aren’t even considered sequels, it’s just “ultra”
I own Ultra Sun and I freaking LOVED everything about it! Even the post game! I thought the Ultra Worm Hole ride side thing was amazing! I also adored the plot, the cut scenes were fantastic, and I thought it was all around a spectacular game! Having to battle Hau instead of Kukui in the end was so much fun!
When I went up against Totem Togedemaru I somehow dragged the battle on for so long that the Totem Pokémon eventually had to use Struggle and it eventually knocked itself out!😂
Also, when I encountered Necrozma just before the Pokémon League I managed to capture it while it's health was still in the yellow zone without a status condition and caught it with the first Ultra Ball I threw!😂
I had an amazing time with this game, as I did with all the other 3DS/2DS Pokémon RPG games and i am going to get Ultra Moon soon too! So far I own every single 3DS Pokémon RPG game that's out! 😄😄
I'm barely half way through the game, so far i love the game. Its a nice new challenge with how much harder it is.
My only complaint is the rotom dex. It NEVER shuts up, i could be trying to make it to a new route but i can't see the map becaus rotom has to talk about how i can register a ride Pokemon or something else stupid.
It does this every other few minutes and it's so annoying.
Out of everything i only hate the rotom dex in this game. Other then that i think it's fantastic, love most of the characters, gameplay and side quests
you can use 3D when you take pictures with rotom
USUM did live up too my expectations,the story was good and I'm glad that it wasn't the same and it's just great
See,the difference between Emerald and US/UM for me is bright as day (not saying that the game is bad,mind you.)
- For starters, when i played Pokemon Ultra Moon, i was hoping for some huuge change,like one you could expect from Black/White 2 for example. So i kept my head up. During 40-50 % of my playthrough,i saw one major difference, the Ops duo. I thought to myself "is this like Emerald? A sudden change at the last sequence?". I kept that idea and hoped that something would resonate out of this,but nothing did. The story was kind of bland (to say the nicest) and the unexpected were...well,expected (like the final battle in pokemon league was hau,i saw it coming from a mile away...). The only appeal for me in this game was Lusamine (who didn't turn evil,yay! )
- The comparison with Emerald and US/UM is hard to make , mainly because of standards between previous game, the more modern the game,the bigger the standards. When i first played Emerald,the one thing that blew me away was the moving sequence the pokemon had when they appear (If you played Emerald,you know what i'm talking about.) . It was something i didn't see before in a pokemon game,not to mention the amazing cutscene with Groudon and Kyogre. So Gamefreak did some effort to improve the game,graphic wise.
-In Ultra sun or Moon,i didn't see anything changing graphic wise comparing from Sun to Moon (The mini wave game was kind of boring to be honest,and the graphic could've been better.)
I think this is a pretty good overview! I'm another person who really liked the changes to the Aether family dynamic and giving Lusamine more reason for what she did (even if it didn't change how awful it was -- if anything giving her a more interesting reason just makes her bad actions as a mother hit harder). also SAME wrt the exp share -- I actually played Ultra Moon with it off for almost the entirety of the game and I had a heck of a struggle in a lot of places, but it felt super rewarding to have to push myself and train thoughtfully to get through it. It was nice that the game upped the difficulty so people who like the challenge could experience it.
Only real negative was Ultra Megalopolis. I expected a whole city or at least a route, not just a straightaway and some stairs. They built it up waaaaaay too much for what they gave us.
TL;DR Your oreo score is spot-on!
I got a shiny mewtwo in ultra moon. It took 1 hour 15 minutes about. It was also the first shiny I ever soft-resented for and got. I think I'll do them at for the rest of my legendaries.
I loved ultra sun / ultra moon. It’s my fav games so far
Personally, I'm glad there's no National Dex. It makes the shiny charm way easier to get.
Same, so I can complete the pokedex
Lucy don’t say that a kid has “the perfect creamy center” just don’t
it's more like raspberry jam
I could tell by this for the battles. Due to the issues of Double Battles in Sun and Moon, and the same for Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon was, due to the power of the 3ds, and its limitation, the frame rates drop to 30 FPS. Single battle are a 60+ FPS, but if we imply Triple and Rotation Battles, the frame rate will be around 10 FPS, maybe, or it'll crash the game altogether. The same if we used the 3D scope. During X and Y, the battles became awkward because of frame rate issues, which is why it was drop in Gen 7 altogether after what happened in Gen 6. Will the Switch finally fix this issue? Only time will tell.
I'm getting this game on Tuesday. I'm going for Ultra Moon because I already have the original Sun and I want to live that night-time experience. I'm hungry for some Wormhole ridin'
I have absolutely no problem with Game Freak.... well, remaking the game to make a quick buck and "polish" up things. Here's what bothers me, though:
1. Changes to the pokemon available
2. Changes to the story &/or postgame (I'm still on my first playthrough, bought the game ages ago. Just going by what I've heard)
But most importantly...
3. There is absolutely no support or further patches/development on the original Sun & Moon. They won't even update the Global Missions. It's depressing, and I'm not starting over / spending more money on essentially the same exact game.
Sorry to rant, it just blew my mind when I found out. I spent a lot of time/effort trading and training my pokemon as I've finally gotten back into it, but now, I doubt I'll be buying another Pokemon game after over 20 years of playing. :'(
I sometimes use my Watch Later list. Not for this video, though.
The hardest fight in this game (in my opinion) is the second fight with necrozma. He was just one-shotting my Pokemon left and right, having to use so many revival herbs to stay afloat. On the 3rd fight, it took only one quick ball and it was over.
Sirk Oremuf I just poisoned him
Sirk Oremuf One moonblast and I won. (my primarina is extremely overleveled)
One more similarity that Gen 7 has with Gen 5 is that the poster legendaries for the later versions both involve fusion of the previous version mascot and the current one. Gen 7 actually went through with the final form though, while BW2 didn't feature the final fusion of the 3 dragons I one body like they implied to have existed.
Candy eevee i got a back to back shiny with the warp ride
Darkrai Gamer2907 5% odds there are pidgeys in Johto with lower encounter odds
Hi CandyEvie! Will you make a let's play for a pokemon game?
As someone who studies the Pokedex I felt the same way that you did about there being no National mode in the actual games & instead having a very watered down & not as interactive one in the form of Pokemon Bank. Sure you got the option of choosing what dex entry you have the chance of reading between 8 games but the lack of the 3D models that you would see on the top screen was a big letdown.
Who absolutely loved it when your fully evolved starter came out of its poke ball near the Pokémon League? I Did!
I didn't like the RR postgame. You only got a million dollars, not even a special outfit.
I think the reward for some people was getting a chance to battle them.
Nostalgia fans most likely got a kick out of this. I certainly did, and I only got in at Gen 3.
Oh hey, you saved our Paradise place? Here, have these 9000 big nuggets that I don't know how I kept them in my non-existent pockets.
SJP4410 I enjoyed it better than the Delta Episode XD
Wondertraded a pheramosa
got an abra.
Also found a shiny blissey whilst trying to grind exp and lucky eggs.
No lucky egg yet.
I loved Ultra Sun. I still play it even though I've maxed out my time, PokeDex, and almost got all the totem stickers.
I love how cheerful and positive your Pokémon videos are! I still haven't got Ultra Sun or Ultra Moon yet, but didn't mind watching the whole video as I've already looked up quite a lot of information about the games. I've actually just started a fourth playthrough of Moon, so once I've finished I'll probably want to take a break from Alola for a little while! I also feel like it's not really worth paying full price for an enhanced version - I'd rather wait a bit and get a cheaper copy. That said, I think I'm going to really enjoy this game once I finally get around to playing it - Ultra Warp Ride and Mantine Surf look like they could keep me occupied for a long time.
The champion being Hau was so obvious to me even before his missing battle at the league, the player is told at least 3 times (could be more) oh Hau is getting stronger, he's training hard make sure you're ready! I kinda wish they hadn't hyped it up so much within the game so it would have been more of a surprise, like Wally in ORAS.
Sam Harrison How is Wally a surprise, that's exactly how he fought you in the originals. Also, Hau wasn't the champion. He was your first challenger.
You can't pronounce 'recon' but you can actually pronounce 'lusamine'? Well, ok then
I don't think Lucy thinks it's super easy, barely an inconvenience to say the word recon.
Did you get the reference?
can we just tall about how amazingly good the ultra necrozma theme is? and the battle was my favorite in the series! probably my favorite games in the series!
The two main story/feature aspects I was disappointed about was Kahili and the fossil park guy. While Kahili did get more involvement, it was still the bare minimum and that glaringly obvious golf course still ended up just sitting there unused for what could've been her story section.
The fossil park guy was easily more upsetting though. I thought SURELY we'd get to see his dream fully realized this time around with an area full of living fossil mons akin to Jurassic Park that you can go catch, but nope. Nothing happened.
Ultra Sun/Moon is the same thing as regular Sun/Moon
Ben Plus! hahahahah
Nope
The first 14 hours is then actual "new" content begins
Please refrain from speaking to Pokemon fans about this game idk wtf they are on when they say this game is "so different" and "it's good"
Unless they some how never played SM but we all know they did becuase they are Pokemon fans and they don't learn criticize until lv100
It's just that the games were advertised as „an entire new game” and that's just not true. If the games would've been advertised like platinum or emerald everything would be alright I think. Still enjoyed USUM though :3
Quoting the Pokémon Platinum commercial, "prepare for one of the most exciting Pokémon adventures yet. An epic new journey awaits you." It isn't a new issue. I think it's just the fact that there hadn't been anything truly akin to a third version for so long that people had thought they were past that, and had higher expectations. Combined with the fact that Black and White 2 happened, people had higher hopes. With those hopes now crushed, many people expect the worst for the next game.
(Sorry about the six month gap between your post and mine, not sure if you're the kind to get annoyed about that.)
I use the watch later list but not to save things to WATCH LATER more like to save some videos and watch them at least once a day.
Just me?
CandyEvie: complains about the national dex not being too relevant
Pokemon sword and Shield: Oh you haven't seen anything yet
Is she going to do an Ultra Moon let's play?
She just beat it sooooooooooo unlikey
LURAAAAAN!!-Sigilyph
I take pics of my entire team and decorate them every time I finish an island. I love Mantine surf but the scoring part was a bit glitchy for me at first.
We are pals I also got ultra moon and my starter was rowlet
I chose Popplio
So Hau had a litten
He had an Inceneroar
It said:
"Rawr"
X3
The plot is really bad though.
The Ultra Recon squad or whatever they are called adds nothing to it and Necrozma isn't even bound to Solgaleo and Lunala like the other trios were.
gen 1 on gen 1 handheld gameboy. gen 2 and gen 2 handheld gameboy color. gen 3 and gen 1 remakes in gen 3 handheld gameboy advance. gen 4, gen 5 and sequel and gen 2 remake for gen 4 handheld original ds. gen 6 and gen 7 and sequel and gen 3 remake for gen 5 hand held. so if the pattern continues there will be a new mostly handheld or for the switch gen 8 and 9 and sequel and gen 4 remake
I completely replayed Moon in anticipation of USUM because I was avoiding spoilers. It was such a mistake because of how little changes on the first island and I really crashed hard and never completed the second island.
I think now that I haven't played an alola game in a year or so, I should revisit USUM to give it a fair shot.
I hope they discontinue the multi-release of three or four almost identical games. It’s annoying, and clearly only done that way to take advantage of a fan base of individuals that will often want to buy every single game. Usually the re-release version is the better versions they should have released first.
Agreed.
I love Pokemon, but they should have only ever sold one version per release. The "third" or "sequel" game is the best one, so just sell that one. This multiple copies thing is just a clear and unashamed exploitation of your customers. Not to mention all those _fun_ events out there, that often cost money to take part in.
Ruin The only one I accept it with is B and W, and B2W2 since you kind of Need to know a little bit of what happened in the originals
Ruin events are free. If they make you pay for a code card they ripped you off.
Epic Pikachu
Not all events are free. Many, especially recently, required further purchases, some required pre-orders, and others required specific regions of the world to obtain. But one thing is universally true; All of them had either limited "stock" (even those that were purely digital, and therefore had unlimited stock) or a limited window of availability.
Instead of, you know, just making them obtainable in the game to begin with.
(Sorry if this is coming off as snarky. I love Pokemon, as I said, it's just sad when they do these things and no-one calls them out on it.)
The reason is because the next game is on the Switch they need development time for it so they put this out to keep shareholders/fans happy while they work on the next game. The same thing happened in Gen 5 when they released Black and White Two while they were working on Gen 6 for the 3DS.
I beat the game yesterday
Maria Gonzalez Congrats and don't forget the big postgame and the sidequest! (hint: one of them involves returning to your mother's house after the end and episode RR)
Also tell me, how did you beat Ultra Necrozma?
Raphaël Khoury I beat Ultra Necrozma with Abomasnow who knows Sheer Cold, I gave it a focus sash and I saved before the fight so if Sheer Cold misses I can Soft Reset and try again. You can also use Roto Boosts to boost all your stats of your pokemon, try with 2 Roto Boosts and then it shouldn't OHKO you.
I can lend you the Abomasnow if you want, my FC is 1178-2051-5476
I beat it on the second after it came out.
Raphaël Khoury I beat it by toxic stalling it.
Keep working hard! Your art is rapidly improving! Also, I was initially going to skip these games, but this video made me rethink my decision.
I finished the game two days from the release. But I loved the little tweaks they made to the game just felt so good!
For some reason I feel like your content has been less and less awesome over the last six months.. I'm not sure what it is, or how to describe it, can't put my finger on it.. :< I hate to say something like this because it seems mean and you don't deserve it, but I wanted to get my thoughts out there.
Keep going though, Lucy, your channel has grown *so much* in the last 2 years, I'm proud of you!
i dint really like ultra moon and sun my favorite pokemon game still is pokemon black2 and white2 i know some people like it but for me it felt like a dlc
Batta The Beast Cry more.
UMM why i just gave an opinión no need to try to insult me
Batta The Beast Again, cry more.
Batta The Beast Yeah, just whine all you want.
Batta The Beast Also, your fucking grammar is horrible.
Her: we don't know what coming up
Nintendo: hmm they want sinnoh and kalos remakes know what LeTs MaKe KaNtO rEmAkEs
I really did enjoy USUM. It was one of my favorite games on the 3DS. Especially the final battles against Necrozma
Though I'll have to disagree with you about Lysandre. I'd have been more pleased to see the old theme
my biggest problem with USUM is the story. They ruined Lillie, Gladion, Lusamine, and Guzma. I really cared about a lot of these characters in Sun to the point where I actually got emotional towards the end. I couldnt have cared less about them in Ultra Sun.
Jake Vaughan I feel like they did that on purpose. I feel the same way. From my point of view because it's an alternate universe I think they wanted to draw a parallel so that you care for them in one dimension, but dislike them in the other. That's just how I try to make it make sense to me.
1:55, THANK YOU! Out of all the arguments I've gotten into relating Ultra Moon (in my case like yours) to Emerald and Platinum, I've had my head metaphorically bitten off with such things as "these games aren't comparable and you're dumb for saying such a thing". I loved Platinum, so why can't Ultra Moon serve as an Alola defining version?
I am glad that they dialed down Lusamine's abuse of her children in these games, while in the first games...yeah...even in the world of Pokemon that felt TOO disconcerting...
Is nobody going to comment about the mini roll comparison?! *I love it!*
Btw, yes, there are mini rolls outside of the UK. They're called Swiss Rolls here in the US.