The watcher just feels like one of the devs decided to smack you across the face and say “No. Stop it. You can’t just bring the exact same strategy to every boss and expect to win.”
@@chopperbrosadvance9760 this work, even on the final boss, it was trickier to use it since I wasn't ready to smack that much health but it still work. Glass canon Vi for the win !
@@ConsarnitTokkori I felt that pain too, he was my tank/damage dealer so he bodied me a couple of times. I now have him as my full tank and Vi as my damage dealer
Wait HUH Gonna give it my 3rd attempt tomorrow, I thought I should *reserve* TP for Frigid Coffin for healing turns/when he's low on HP so he doesn't heal
I think what I like about this boss is that it feels like fighting leif, given a lot of the ice magic spells that it has. Always like it when bosses have the same movesets as your character.
Unfortunate we never get a Vi adjacent boss. Yes, the game has fights against other characters with similar combat techniques to the main party, but it's never the same as fighting another Roach Ice Mage or a Hypnotized Kabbu
This boss was pretty tricky, but I later learned that it was because I was nuking him early on- when I held out without using TP early on and THEN nuked once he was below half health, it was much easier, and a lot more satisfying to pull off.
My strat was using Vi's Heavy Beemerang move since it lowers defense, using Leif for mainly either Attack Boosting or support, and Kabbu would use taunt while in the back (I had a badge that would raise the defense of the ally in the back)
I had 2 super block shields on Vi and let her soak the damage of most attacks while using the party heal, and letting the rest do damage until they would faint
I did a Taunt+Do Nothing strat equipped on Kabbu, leaving Leif and Vi to trade striking it on alternating turns; granted, I often adapted from the strat to sheild, heal with food, and do multiattacks with Vi and Leif.
@@redcaptainkoifish3734 Frameone alone adds so much more difficulty to the game outside of just playing with hardest/ruigee/morefarm. It’s pretty insane
Big Super Paper Mario vibes with this one. Makes me think of Dimentio and Mimi and Bleck and Mr. L’s Battle themes all mixed together. So... basically the final boss theme plus Mimi
this boss taught me that Vi has the power to destroy the whole world if she so desired because Hurricane Toss can deal over 65 damage if Vi gets omni-charged
For me it was the fight against Monsieur Scarlet. I slapped Favourite One onto Kabu and discovered how well Vi's multi-hit moves synergize with Charge.
Its ironic so many people seem to have had issues with this boss first time around due to over-reliance on Leif, because I had the polar opposite experience and was over-reliant on Kabbu for every fight I was in. So I got to this guy, demolished him with ease, and was convinced he couldn't possibly be the final boss of this chapter because he was such a pushover. I play Leif so defensively that this boss stonewalling him was a total non-issue.
@@Funnyname34 In my case I just prefer using Leif defensively to provide passive buffs and debuffs and that's what he spends most of the battle doing. The stat altering moves are just too good not to use them.
Lets be honest this entire chapter was "stop relying on Leif" and I like that, because it revealed to me how downright busted you can make Kabbu Edit - Ok, because people keep misunderstanding this: I wasn't saying "everyone relied on Lief", I was saying that if you DID rely on Leif, here is where you stopped or had to re-evaluate your game plan. I have had so many people say "oh but I didn't rely on leif" THATS THE POINT OF THE COMMENT IF YOU WEREN'T RELYING ON LEIF THIS FIGHT WAS WAY EASIER Might I remind people that bug fables was a first introduction for many people to this genre, so not everybody playing found the downright busted strategies right out the gate
@@genghisj1372 my main start was just buffing kabbu into oblivion using berserker and ever single buff in the game, then using vi and leif for their combo attacks
So that was the "stop relying on Leif" chapter ? Well I've always used Vi as a glass canon and Leif just has a guy that stands there to boost/protect Vi so I just didn't destroyed this dungeon, like every dungeon of the game (except the final of the game that made me question my choice of having Vi with -2 defense)
@@ThatBeePerson Not that much, monster in the dungeon that aren't already made of ice can be transformed in ice thanks to Leif, and then Kabbu deal more damage on them, so he isn't as usefull than in other chapter, but still really usefull
Heavy Drone B-33 would have been WAY easier if the game let you get the baby Chomper before it. In the B.O.S.S. rush, it just trivializes the whole thing
During the 2nd half of the game I found myself being excited for a boss battle not just for the combat, but also to hear it's unique theme. They never really disappointed either. A soundtrack that could rival the likes of Nintendo for sure. Now thats impressive.
this soundtrack is good but origami kings soundtrack is just sooo much better. i don't get why this soundtrack has as many views as origami king, people seem to ignore one of the greatest soundtracks of all time only because the game isn't the same as paper mario 1 and 2
@@vladi3862 Never played that game so I cant comment, but besides.. music taste is extremely subjective. Origami King might be one of your favorites while other ppl don't really find it all that great. Youre right about a lot of fans not trying it because its different then the first 2 games tho, I fall in that boat myself. Nintendo is clearly disconnected with its fans when it comes to Paper Mario series..sucks it has to be that way because the first 2 games were absolutely stellar.
@@Tpike777 it's definitely not about the music taste. even many paper mario 1 and 2 fans agree that the origami king soundtrack is so much better because you can clearly see the effort they put in it, it's just that people refuse to give origami king a chance
I didn't even know this guy had big Ice attacks or the ability to heal. Poisoned Vi + Freeze Support killed him in like 3 turns or something like that.
Astotheles is broken difficult when you don't have charge badges or anything that can drain his HP super quickly. Hate that you can't heal or restore TP!
@@switchboxplays I mean, those were mini bosses. As far as actual bosses go... Spuder: Pretty ambiguous, but it seems like Spuder moved into Snakemouth well after roaches went extinct, judging from the lack of mention of said beast in the roach documentation. However, assuming this is true, it's pretty clear that Spuder was intelligent enough to recognize the traps in Snakemouth for what they were and take advantage of them for easy hunting. Judging from the fact that an uneaten Lief was found in Spuder's web, one could even suspect that Spuder moved in very recently. Sunflower Golem: Obviously a creation of Venus, who does not appear to have any connection to the roaches. Mecha Bee Destroyer: Dr. H's creation. While his study of the artifact may have influenced or even inspired his designs, it's a bit of a leap to say that the roaches had any hand in its creation. Warden: This is the first boss that has a direct link to the roaches. The Beast: No clear link to the roaches. Zammoth: Obviously directly linked to the roaches General ULTIMAX (who has a tank): ULTIMAX himself is obviously a wasp. Like the Mecha Bee Destroyer, it is possible that the tank's technology was at least inspired by roach technology, however also like mecha bee, it was clearly built well after the roaches went extinct. Hoaraxe: As the OP mentioned, his crown was made by the roaches. There is no reason to suspect that Maki or any of the bounty board bosses have anything to do with the roaches.
@@webbowser8834 actually its possible the roaches could have created Venus. (SPOILERS) In a secret room in snakemouth lab, three gods can be seen on monitors, one of them is Venus
@@shady7919 Interesting... There are a lot of ways to interpret that. That the roaches created Venus is a perfectly reasonable interpretation. Another possible interpretation is that the roaches knew of and were studying Venus to further their own research.
@@webbowser8834 yeah, it's honestly up to what you believe. Just thought I'd throw that in there because I thought it was interesting and not many people know about it. Both explanations are perfectly reasonable
I think it’s mainly because this boss fight actually isn’t that hard really. First time beating it I really didn’t think it lived up to the Mecha bee destroyer.
@@Tweany the mini boss would be that bandit leader that refused to let you use items when you were fighting him. He was harder just solely because of that.
i didnt even know the watcher had ice attacks cuz i am so gamer ... this boss was easy, so was devourer, but probably because i was overleveled fighting them. TANGYBUG
I think that this boss is really cleverly named. When I got to the 2nd half of the fight, it literally destroyed me in 1 turn, and I was at basically full HP with all of my characters. It's like it watches for a chance to strike (or something like that)
This boss was a little weird. On my first try, he freezed all my team several times in a row until I died. On my second try, he didn't freeze anyone and it was super easy. Oh well, I'll have to refight this boss on the thing to get the hardmode achievement, so whatever.
I'd say that honor would go to Heavy Drone B-33. With that one, you HAVE to strategize. You can't just go in guns blazing because only Vi can hit it normally, Lief can only hit it by spending TP, and Kabbu can't hit it at all until it's on the ground.
Idk damage vi tends to just work and then just add more damage boost to vi and maybe more tanking for Kabbu so he can taunt to give vi charge with the favorite one with life primarily serving as buffing. Apparently throwing a boomerang at a giant robot 3 times is enough to destroy it and it only gets stronger later
this boss' freezing mechanic is so unforgiving in hard mode. status moves are guaranteed to inflict the status if you don't block, so miss the timing once on icefall, get frozen, be unable to block the next attack with increased damage, get longer frozen duration and lose over half the team's health. not based on personal experience or anything like that of course.
At first I thought that he was a resurrected Roach mage but then the Spy text metiones that he was “never alive” So my best guess is that he’s some kind of roach magic golem?
Everyone talkin bout the watcher, but noone be talkin bout tangybug. Who is he? Is there an in game fight of him that noone has actually discovered yet? Is he tanjerin or is he someone else? Is he just a glitch? How is he so powerful? So many unanswerable questions
I associate this song more with T̷̨̪̬͕͙̮̜͓͙͕͓̍̅̅́̑́̊͝͝Ȃ̵̲̻͍̱̲̠́̃̆̅̔̃Ṋ̸̡̧̗̺̲̱͖͇̒͑͐͝Ģ̵͍͔̤̥̦̰͖̤͉̼͙͒̌ͅY̶̧̞̤̪͙̣͍̯̐͛̊ͅB̸̡̡͕̗̤̲̜̠͉̝͔͍̦͈̎̃̓͗̀͛ͅƯ̴̢̛̛̙͎̝͚̺̰̼̪̬̒͑̈͐̒̒̈́̿̚͠͝Ǵ̸̢̛̼̝͈̳̹͙̞͉̩̦̇̊̇͒͗̑͜͜͠ than I do with The Watcher. The Watcher's a good fight, as all the bosses are, but that thing is something extra special.
This is the first time in my entire life that I felt salty. And I still did not beat him in hard mode. If I mess up one block of his ice attacks it's game over. My best is when he was a 2 damage but I failed a block... I HATE HIM Edit: poison needles, best way to kill his second phase.
So, the fight against The Watcher. Tuffbugs enabled. I didn't realize until after the fight, but he only uses ice attacks while on the ground, and you can use hurricane toss to get him off of it. Since I didn't know this, I had to get lucky and hope he used frigid coffin instead of icefall. Even super blocked, icefall still 1-shot Vi from full health. Eventually though, I beat him. Eventually.
Honestly, never relied on Lief too much, he's a nice damage dealer and is great at freezing some problematic enemies but Kabbu... I always relied on Kabbu the most, absorbs most of the damage, packs a punch and also has awesome skills, so the boss fight wasn't sucu a problem for me.
It strange, the thief boss killed me but this boss was easy. I also thought it was way easier than the mechanic bee too. I’m playing on normal mode. Is it difficult on hard mode?
The watcher in my first run: *spawns a wall every other turn* *uses icefall and freezes my whole team* *heals for 13 hp* The watcher on my second run: uwu,,, p-pwease don’t hurt me 🥺🥺🥺🥺 i am just a littl creachure,,,,,,,
i kept calling this boss "bad touch man" for the life steal attack. easiest boss so far though [hard mode; just started chapter 5] and i swept in like 5 turns with vi by freezing n then hurricane tosses
@@missingwlws1400 that makes sense. I think I died to him twice so I guess I struggled a bit but most bosses I didn't die to at all. I died like 5 times to the watcher.
@@brandonochs1902 the watcher was only easy for me because i, for some unknown reason, never experienced its ice attacks. it never did any. on later playthroughs of chapters 1-5 i did have a bit of trouble with it but usually by then i had vi built up so it didnt take more than 2 tries
I dont know why but this reminds me of gravity falls for some reason even though I never really watched that series or liked it (I dont hate it either)
![Yeat & Summrs - GO2WORK [Official Music Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/NEFEwfPcXRA/mqdefault.jpg)
The watcher just feels like one of the devs decided to smack you across the face and say “No. Stop it. You can’t just bring the exact same strategy to every boss and expect to win.”
What about beemerang? I brought it to every fight
@@chopperbrosadvance9760 this work, even on the final boss, it was trickier to use it since I wasn't ready to smack that much health but it still work.
Glass canon Vi for the win !
I dunno man, vi kinda slaps.
Screw you, I rarely used fridgid coffin anyways
@@chopperbrosadvance9760 Beemerang is the best
you destroy everything with lief and now you get a taste of your own power against you
thank god most of my run thus far involved savagely whomping everything with kabbu
so the pain of having to fight him only came in a while later
@@ConsarnitTokkori I felt that pain too, he was my tank/damage dealer so he bodied me a couple of times.
I now have him as my full tank and Vi as my damage dealer
@@acamera367 Meanwhile here I am doing dozens of damage with Vi.
@@DimentiosLoyalest Vi is useless against certain bosses though. The Beast is a standout example.
@@thesnatcher3616 I literally never had any trouble with any boss with Vi, even having played the entire game on hardmode.
I love how the Roach areas have more "techno" sounding songs in contrast with the more upbeat and natural sounding areas
The honey factory does too
The roaches are what I call, “Techno bugs”.
@@paulgrotebeverborg1119 that felt more mechanical than techo tho
@@paulgrotebeverborg1119 and remind what is 90% of bee kingdom tech based of?
James roach 😳
I love how he even has the crosshair when doing his version of Icefall
The boss that taught me to stop relying on Frigid Coffin
So it wasn't just me thinking I had bad rng with frigid coffin then
We all live the same life lmao
This boss taught me to rely on frigit coffin again
nah dude frigid coffin works great on this guy just gotta use that status enhancer badge
Wait HUH
Gonna give it my 3rd attempt tomorrow, I thought I should *reserve* TP for Frigid Coffin for healing turns/when he's low on HP so he doesn't heal
"Alright, I think I finally got him on the ropes this time.."
Boss: *_heals for 13 hp_*
"Nevermind..."
For those who haven’t seen any gameplay at all, 13 is a lot.
This dude literally gives himself as many turns as he wants, how can you compete with that??
Jony FiftyFour you have to be lucky and hope he only does one turn every time.
@@theamazingcatwizard3654
That's not happening... If only Leif's Cleanse could negate multiple turns as well
Sooper yeah, on my first playthrough he never healed. I was really confused at the comments until my second playthrough.
Who knew the shadow of such a cute beetle could be so devastating?
...I wasn't talking about the Watcher.
T A N G Y B O I
tangybug
Fun fact: The Watcher's pose and animation while using ice magic is a mirror of Leif's pose and normal attack animation.
Now that i think about it, I wonder if that was done as a small bit of foreshadowing to Leif's origin.
I think what I like about this boss is that it feels like fighting leif, given a lot of the ice magic spells that it has. Always like it when bosses have the same movesets as your character.
Unfortunate we never get a Vi adjacent boss. Yes, the game has fights against other characters with similar combat techniques to the main party, but it's never the same as fighting another Roach Ice Mage or a Hypnotized Kabbu
Vi is just too good to have a counterpart
It's satisfying to tear down an enemy that mirrors your abilities. It comes down more to how you use your abilities rather than your abilities alone.
@@ASquared544 The Beast also “borrowed” moves from Kabbu.
@@ASquared544 drugged kabbu actually
Major "You're All Bad Guys" phase 2 vibes from the intro.
OH MY GOODNESS YEA H--
That was my first thought when I heard this for the first time
This boss was pretty tricky, but I later learned that it was because I was nuking him early on- when I held out without using TP early on and THEN nuked once he was below half health, it was much easier, and a lot more satisfying to pull off.
My strat was using Vi's Heavy Beemerang move since it lowers defense, using Leif for mainly either Attack Boosting or support, and Kabbu would use taunt while in the back (I had a badge that would raise the defense of the ally in the back)
I had 2 super block shields on Vi and let her soak the damage of most attacks while using the party heal, and letting the rest do damage until they would faint
I just spammed Kabbu.
I did a Taunt+Do Nothing strat equipped on Kabbu, leaving Leif and Vi to trade striking it on alternating turns; granted, I often adapted from the strat to sheild, heal with food, and do multiattacks with Vi and Leif.
I made the exact same mistake
TANGYBUG theme do be hitting kinda hard
The Watcher is probably up there for my favorite boss as well as song in the game
Ha 69 health! (Sorry i had to)
Same here 👊
agreed
i know right? a badass mummy lich with an awesome theme? no-brainer
All hail the Watcher!
Very hype song for a very hype battle! Kinda cool to face off against ice after we have been using it for the whole game!
“ONO HES USING MY STRAT OF SPAMMING ICE!!!”
Not going to lie, this boss was really hard on hard mode. Forced me to adjust strategy drastically to deal with his nonsense.
“This boss was really hard on hard mode.”
Thanks captain obvious!
Hard mode made this game for me! I always hated how easy OG paper mario was.. this was such a refreshing feature!
Much more insane with the stupid Frameone and Hardest codes. Learning the Watchers attacks and when you can block them can be a pain.
@@redcaptainkoifish3734 Frameone alone adds so much more difficulty to the game outside of just playing with hardest/ruigee/morefarm. It’s pretty insane
"Really Hard on Hard Mode."
Hmmmm yes
the floor here is made out of floor.
Big Super Paper Mario vibes with this one. Makes me think of Dimentio and Mimi and Bleck and Mr. L’s Battle themes all mixed together. So... basically the final boss theme plus Mimi
this boss taught me that Vi has the power to destroy the whole world if she so desired because Hurricane Toss can deal over 65 damage if Vi gets omni-charged
Yep!
How on Earth do you get 16ATK on Vi?!
I am just as confused.
What!?
For me it was the fight against Monsieur Scarlet.
I slapped Favourite One onto Kabu and discovered how well Vi's multi-hit moves synergize with Charge.
"the hive ain't gonna underestimate me anymore" proceeds to tornado toss the entire hive.
Its ironic so many people seem to have had issues with this boss first time around due to over-reliance on Leif, because I had the polar opposite experience and was over-reliant on Kabbu for every fight I was in. So I got to this guy, demolished him with ease, and was convinced he couldn't possibly be the final boss of this chapter because he was such a pushover. I play Leif so defensively that this boss stonewalling him was a total non-issue.
Same I always use Kabbu and Vi because I'm not good with Leif's main attack
@@Funnyname34 In my case I just prefer using Leif defensively to provide passive buffs and debuffs and that's what he spends most of the battle doing. The stat altering moves are just too good not to use them.
"Ok wise guy, using Leif's attacks better than I can. We'll see who's the better winter warlock 'ere!"
Fuck it, tanjy in the cave
Lets be honest this entire chapter was "stop relying on Leif" and I like that, because it revealed to me how downright busted you can make Kabbu
Edit - Ok, because people keep misunderstanding this:
I wasn't saying "everyone relied on Lief", I was saying that if you DID rely on Leif, here is where you stopped or had to re-evaluate your game plan.
I have had so many people say "oh but I didn't rely on leif"
THATS THE POINT OF THE COMMENT
IF YOU WEREN'T RELYING ON LEIF THIS FIGHT WAS WAY EASIER
Might I remind people that bug fables was a first introduction for many people to this genre, so not everybody playing found the downright busted strategies right out the gate
I'll admit, I've thought of ways to make Kabbu into an Armor peircing nuke using Antlion jaws and Attack boosts
@@genghisj1372 my main start was just buffing kabbu into oblivion using berserker and ever single buff in the game, then using vi and leif for their combo attacks
So that was the "stop relying on Leif" chapter ? Well I've always used Vi as a glass canon and Leif just has a guy that stands there to boost/protect Vi so I just didn't destroyed this dungeon, like every dungeon of the game (except the final of the game that made me question my choice of having Vi with -2 defense)
@@siphons5737 I mean like, if you were relying on lief's, this chapter made you stop doing so.
@@ThatBeePerson Not that much, monster in the dungeon that aren't already made of ice can be transformed in ice thanks to Leif, and then Kabbu deal more damage on them, so he isn't as usefull than in other chapter, but still really usefull
The amount of Buzzfeed Unsolved references I made during this fight wasn't healthy
Vi: Did you say BUZZ feed??
@@aaronstephen3058 took the words right out of my mouth
I actually won this fight with only Lief left alive, and it's because I got a LUCKY FREEZE on the Watcher, and had Lief avenge his fallen friends.
4 tangy berries. Complete the cave of trials. Find him.
find him
Ngl I had more trouble with hard mode world 3 boss. Didn't mean this was a cakewalk but it didn't feel like it lived up to the previous boss.
Same, the only time I died to The Watcher was when he happened to freeze everyone then just kept everyone ice-locked until they were dead
Really? Thought world 3 boss was easy on hard mode
This one wasn't too bad but the world 3 boss was the easiest boss for me
@@bigbadgammagnome ikr i beat the world 3 one first try.
World 3 boss is hard till you get the strategy down of putting vi in first and just constantly tornado spinning
Heavy Drone B-33 would have been WAY easier if the game let you get the baby Chomper before it. In the B.O.S.S. rush, it just trivializes the whole thing
This has big Crypt of the Necrodancer vibes... I like it
It's the the techno isn't it?
During the 2nd half of the game I found myself being excited for a boss battle not just for the combat, but also to hear it's unique theme. They never really disappointed either. A soundtrack that could rival the likes of Nintendo for sure. Now thats impressive.
@@nerdyboy5490
1. He never left
2. How is this related
this soundtrack is good but origami kings soundtrack is just sooo much better. i don't get why this soundtrack has as many views as origami king, people seem to ignore one of the greatest soundtracks of all time only because the game isn't the same as paper mario 1 and 2
@@vladi3862 Never played that game so I cant comment, but besides.. music taste is extremely subjective. Origami King might be one of your favorites while other ppl don't really find it all that great. Youre right about a lot of fans not trying it because its different then the first 2 games tho, I fall in that boat myself. Nintendo is clearly disconnected with its fans when it comes to Paper Mario series..sucks it has to be that way because the first 2 games were absolutely stellar.
@@Tpike777 it's definitely not about the music taste. even many paper mario 1 and 2 fans agree that the origami king soundtrack is so much better because you can clearly see the effort they put in it, it's just that people refuse to give origami king a chance
TFW you get him to nearly 10 hp remaining, and then you miss the block on the icefall and watch as your entire team gets wiped
top ten wizard battles
yet another tortured soul put down by the team. How many times will this happen?
Fun fact the Watcher was never alive
@@CaliCosmicGal even so, still kind of sombre to see what appears to be a floating corpse
@@guywithrevolver i could be wrong, but i believe The Watcher was created by the Roaches
@@RedHoodAngel I think canonically it was to protect the treasure, and the gem it dropped was its core.
@@CaliCosmicGal actually i read somewhere that it was the result of the roaches experimenting with their own kind but maybe im wrong
I love how every boss (unless there's an exception I'm forgetting) has the leitmotif of the jingle from the start of their chapter.
A mummified roach, brilliant!!
sounds very much like a super meat boy dark world track, which is a good thing!
I didn't even know this guy had big Ice attacks or the ability to heal. Poisoned Vi + Freeze Support killed him in like 3 turns or something like that.
that jingle at 0:40 is so clean
I really love how all the bosses in the game has different epic soundtrack :D
This boss was honestly so easy, I didn’t even need to use any special moves
…then he got the double turn buff, and everything quickly fell apart
The issue with watcher is that he's easy aslong as you don't screw up.
Once one of your party members gets frozen it's quickly downhill from there.
0:52 We all know you feel badass asf hearing this part. 😎
This boss wasn't as bad as Chapter 3's boss. In fact, I didn't think it was as difficult Astotheles until halfway into the fight.
Astotheles is broken difficult when you don't have charge badges or anything that can drain his HP super quickly. Hate that you can't heal or restore TP!
I sorta just slayed the Heavy Drone while having Kabbu as a Shock Trooper distraction, and on occasion using Bubble Shield
Almost every boss in the game was in some part created by the roaches. even Hoaxe as they made the crown
Edit: misspelled Hoaxe as Hoarax
What about Monsieur scarlet and asotheles?
@@switchboxplays I mean, those were mini bosses. As far as actual bosses go...
Spuder: Pretty ambiguous, but it seems like Spuder moved into Snakemouth well after roaches went extinct, judging from the lack of mention of said beast in the roach documentation. However, assuming this is true, it's pretty clear that Spuder was intelligent enough to recognize the traps in Snakemouth for what they were and take advantage of them for easy hunting. Judging from the fact that an uneaten Lief was found in Spuder's web, one could even suspect that Spuder moved in very recently.
Sunflower Golem: Obviously a creation of Venus, who does not appear to have any connection to the roaches.
Mecha Bee Destroyer: Dr. H's creation. While his study of the artifact may have influenced or even inspired his designs, it's a bit of a leap to say that the roaches had any hand in its creation.
Warden: This is the first boss that has a direct link to the roaches.
The Beast: No clear link to the roaches.
Zammoth: Obviously directly linked to the roaches
General ULTIMAX (who has a tank): ULTIMAX himself is obviously a wasp. Like the Mecha Bee Destroyer, it is possible that the tank's technology was at least inspired by roach technology, however also like mecha bee, it was clearly built well after the roaches went extinct.
Hoaraxe: As the OP mentioned, his crown was made by the roaches.
There is no reason to suspect that Maki or any of the bounty board bosses have anything to do with the roaches.
@@webbowser8834 actually its possible the roaches could have created Venus. (SPOILERS)
In a secret room in snakemouth lab, three gods can be seen on monitors, one of them is Venus
@@shady7919 Interesting... There are a lot of ways to interpret that. That the roaches created Venus is a perfectly reasonable interpretation. Another possible interpretation is that the roaches knew of and were studying Venus to further their own research.
@@webbowser8834 yeah, it's honestly up to what you believe. Just thought I'd throw that in there because I thought it was interesting and not many people know about it. Both explanations are perfectly reasonable
tbh I actually had a pretty easy time with this boss... one of the few bosses in the game I managed to beat on hardmode first try actually lol
Same, i was wondered why was he so easy....until i read the comments
Favorite boss, favorite boss music...coincidence?
I don't know how I struggled a bit with Chapter 3's boss, and then this one I beat Hard Mode/Hard Hits first try. Guess I was well prepared.
I think it’s mainly because this boss fight actually isn’t that hard really. First time beating it I really didn’t think it lived up to the Mecha bee destroyer.
Yes this boss really wasnt hard for me at least. I thought he was a miniboss until i found the artifact
@@Tweany the mini boss would be that bandit leader that refused to let you use items when you were fighting him. He was harder just solely because of that.
@infernoROBO
You using a queen's dinner to heal up your party: Ok this should be easy now
Astostheles: I'll be taking that. MMMM, YUMMY
The first 40 seconds give me a slow Gravity Falls intro/Marx theme vibe!!!!!
Those strings in the background are probably common but give me some heavy lunar: dragon song flashbacks
Why does it say the watcher? This is TANGYBUG's theme.
HOW DOES THIS SONG MAKE ME BOP MY HEAD SO HARD!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!
Oh boy.
Favourite one on Kabbu + taunt.
Once attack boost reaches +3, Nuke with hurricane toss.
T̸̠̍̊͗̄͌A̷̡̧͉̤̺̭̥̒͊̀͋̾́N̸̢͕̜̺͚̭̑G̷̢͔͓̯͚͒́͐́̕͝Y̷̙̼̱̻̱̆͂̑B̵̧̠͛Ȕ̸̖G̷̡̖̿̎̋̐̄̓̑
i didnt even know the watcher had ice attacks cuz i am so gamer
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this boss was easy, so was devourer, but probably because i was overleveled fighting them.
TANGYBUG
I think that this boss is really cleverly named. When I got to the 2nd half of the fight, it literally destroyed me in 1 turn, and I was at basically full HP with all of my characters. It's like it watches for a chance to strike (or something like that)
This boss was a little weird. On my first try, he freezed all my team several times in a row until I died. On my second try, he didn't freeze anyone and it was super easy. Oh well, I'll have to refight this boss on the thing to get the hardmode achievement, so whatever.
Great song and boss
This boss was the first true wakeup call to change up your strategies
I'd say that honor would go to Heavy Drone B-33.
With that one, you HAVE to strategize. You can't just go in guns blazing because only Vi can hit it normally, Lief can only hit it by spending TP, and Kabbu can't hit it at all until it's on the ground.
@@awsumsas Use pEbblE ToSs
Idk damage vi tends to just work and then just add more damage boost to vi and maybe more tanking for Kabbu so he can taunt to give vi charge with the favorite one with life primarily serving as buffing. Apparently throwing a boomerang at a giant robot 3 times is enough to destroy it and it only gets stronger later
this boss' freezing mechanic is so unforgiving in hard mode. status moves are guaranteed to inflict the status if you don't block, so miss the timing once on icefall, get frozen, be unable to block the next attack with increased damage, get longer frozen duration and lose over half the team's health.
not based on personal experience or anything like that of course.
I have 20 hp dropped to 6 since I play on hard that much damage for a mis time
Best song in the game
so wait, is it a roach? or a robot? maybe a bit of both?
i think The Watcher is made by the Roaches, so... both maybe..?
At first I thought that he was a resurrected Roach mage but then the Spy text metiones that he was “never alive” So my best guess is that he’s some kind of roach magic golem?
@@ieatsand9259
Explains the gem it drops, as all of the constructs are powered by gems
@@ieatsand9259 huh. i never really thought of it that way. that actually makes a ton of sense
I despise what they make you go through to get that Frostbite Medal but it was worth it just for this fight
Everyone talkin bout the watcher, but noone be talkin bout tangybug. Who is he? Is there an in game fight of him that noone has actually discovered yet? Is he tanjerin or is he someone else? Is he just a glitch? How is he so powerful? So many unanswerable questions
I associate this song more with T̷̨̪̬͕͙̮̜͓͙͕͓̍̅̅́̑́̊͝͝Ȃ̵̲̻͍̱̲̠́̃̆̅̔̃Ṋ̸̡̧̗̺̲̱͖͇̒͑͐͝Ģ̵͍͔̤̥̦̰͖̤͉̼͙͒̌ͅY̶̧̞̤̪͙̣͍̯̐͛̊ͅB̸̡̡͕̗̤̲̜̠͉̝͔͍̦͈̎̃̓͗̀͛ͅƯ̴̢̛̛̙͎̝͚̺̰̼̪̬̒͑̈͐̒̒̈́̿̚͠͝Ǵ̸̢̛̼̝͈̳̹͙̞͉̩̦̇̊̇͒͗̑͜͜͠ than I do with The Watcher. The Watcher's a good fight, as all the bosses are, but that thing is something extra special.
Ehh, ᎿαηᏀεγβᏌᏀ is no match for my omni boosted hurricane toss
This boss is all fun and games till it freezes your whole team.
catch in a Frozen status and it's GAME OVER for hard mode.
Fun fact: If you don't block the icefall, you're probably going to die before you get a chance to do anything.
i taunted him & was planning to tank everything, but he did the icefall move which i failed to block, freezing kabbu and killing leif & vi instantly
This felt so shovel Knight like. Boss, music, atmosphere, everything
Uh.........
No...?
Let me try to freeze him so I can start sett-
*Oh no*
This is the first time in my entire life that I felt salty. And I still did not beat him in hard mode. If I mess up one block of his ice attacks it's game over. My best is when he was a 2 damage but I failed a block...
I
HATE
HIM
Edit: poison needles, best way to kill his second phase.
at least I get to listen to this banger while having to deal with the constant sand and ice walls while this idiot gets to go twice per turn
PUSHROCK
T̴̡̳͔̹̩͒͋͒̅̀Ą̴̦͖̉͌̉͂̿N̴̤͈̈̊G̸̲̳̹̙̯͊̿͊͝Y̷̟̾B̷̟̲͒̄̃͛̽Ȗ̴̧̫̺̖̱̂͝Ḡ̴͓̜̪̦͐̔̌̄
It feels wierd that all the other boss themes have catchy titles while this one is simply "the watcher"...any thoughts on why?
And this is the chapter I learned how to abuse empower and turn kabbu completely busted lol
Who knew that one dead archivist from tma made an appearance in bug fables.
So, the fight against The Watcher. Tuffbugs enabled. I didn't realize until after the fight, but he only uses ice attacks while on the ground, and you can use hurricane toss to get him off of it. Since I didn't know this, I had to get lucky and hope he used frigid coffin instead of icefall. Even super blocked, icefall still 1-shot Vi from full health. Eventually though, I beat him. Eventually.
This is a great spiritual successor to "Freeze!"
Wow, this boss has a cool design, looks tuff, I wonder what his health is...
*69 HP*
ok...
Nice
This boss gets a special ost name and this boss gets a special ost name.
But this track is just the wachter
Honestly, never relied on Lief too much, he's a nice damage dealer and is great at freezing some problematic enemies but Kabbu... I always relied on Kabbu the most, absorbs most of the damage, packs a punch and also has awesome skills, so the boss fight wasn't sucu a problem for me.
Speak not the Watchers,
Draw not the Watchers,
Write not the Watchers,
Sculpt not the Watchers,
Sing not the Watchers,
Call not the Watchers' name.
La la la la la.
I have PTSD of this song from hard mode.
It strange, the thief boss killed me but this boss was easy. I also thought it was way easier than the mechanic bee too. I’m playing on normal mode. Is it difficult on hard mode?
and is from this moment I imagined the relic to be the Roach dancing Scatman.
The watcher in my first run: *spawns a wall every other turn* *uses icefall and freezes my whole team* *heals for 13 hp*
The watcher on my second run: uwu,,, p-pwease don’t hurt me 🥺🥺🥺🥺 i am just a littl creachure,,,,,,,
I love the inclusion of bits from Frenzied Sunflower Dance, I loved FSD but this track did it better
I though this was a miniboss until i found the actual artifact
Still stuck on this guy for my HARDEST save file
This guy's appearance, and song really intimidated me at first. Then after the fight I was like: .....Wut
Aaaaaaaah! I am stuck on this fight!
try stocking up on items
And don’t use all your TP in the beginning
The only boss I've 1-shotted so far
you
*what*
Wut
*W H A T*
behold, the wizard roach!
i kept calling this boss "bad touch man" for the life steal attack. easiest boss so far though [hard mode; just started chapter 5] and i swept in like 5 turns with vi by freezing n then hurricane tosses
Huh this was the only boss in the game I had trouble with. Not even really the final boss.
@@brandonochs1902 the wasp king has been decimating me lol, usually all my items go kerplut while im going through the entire giants lair
@@missingwlws1400 that makes sense. I think I died to him twice so I guess I struggled a bit but most bosses I didn't die to at all. I died like 5 times to the watcher.
@@brandonochs1902 the watcher was only easy for me because i, for some unknown reason, never experienced its ice attacks. it never did any. on later playthroughs of chapters 1-5 i did have a bit of trouble with it but usually by then i had vi built up so it didnt take more than 2 tries
Please tell me in not the only one that had thought of the Techno season of Ninjago when listening to this song
Lurien?
He watches at the top of his sand castle
tangybug
tangybug
TANGY BUG
I thought this boss was pretty easy. Turns out I got lucky with frigid coffin, I froze him about 3 times
Me: Let’s spam Icefall
The Watcher: Icefall on leif
Me: *…oh*
why are all the comments talking about ice magic
tangybug doesn't have ice magic
oh wait
I dont know why but this reminds me of gravity falls for some reason even though I never really watched that series or liked it (I dont hate it either)
Sounds like Super Meat Boy
this is the part of the game when i thought frozen drill was the best skill in the game.
Finally someone gets it.
Okay, the first bit just _has_ to be inspired by Mario World’s castle music
If I can't use Leif to freeze, then I will use berserker Vi
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