Half of me is like ‘learn to double clutch, you’ll spare your gearbox’. The other half is ‘don’t learn to double clutch because you’re too shit to not wreck the gearbox in the process’.
@@scottneulist9495 You wont kill the clutch, the input gears have almost zero inertia compared the rest of the drivetrain. The clutch almost dont slip at all when you double clutch.
Oh that's double clutching. I didn't realise I've already been doing this forever. I just called it spamming the $hit out of the clutch until it goes into gear. 👍
Thanks to my curiosity from when I first watched this video I started practicing this technique and trying to perfect it as much as I possibly could, now I can proudly say that I'm almost as fast and efficient with my rev's during my down shifts as this amazing driver!
I really love the description. Most people have ridiculously strong opinions about things, but they don't actually have any first hand experience and cannot explain why they have that opinion. It's nice to see someone that is actually able to back up their opinion with facts!
I just wanna say thank you good sir!! After reading the description you left and watching this video a couple of times I gained the confidence to try double clutch downshifting myself. I'm happy to say I can now double clutch down moderately comfortably after a couple of weeks of occasional practice every time I drive. I'm still blown away at how smooth, fast and full of purpose you do yours with though. This video really inspires me to become even better at it and again thank you for the great content!
It's a dying art these days. Sooner or later you'll only find this kind of thing done in front of a PC monitor, playing Assetto Corsa in the future when EVs taking over.
Also it’s not only easy on the transmission but also on the balance of the car, since the transmission won’t have to drag the engine revs up creating excessive stress on the clutch. Once you get use to double clutch anytime the downshifts become smooth af and quick enough for the situation you’re into. Great video
Genuine question, why is this any better than a regular rev-matched or heel and toe downshift? Doesn’t the same process happen there? But instead of double tapping the clutch it’s all just done in one motion
I learnt double clutching intuitively, listening and feeling my cars and noticing how it treats the transmission nicer, with a non-aggressive driving. Didn't know it had a name. 👌😂
I still remember watching best motoring for the first time and seeing guys like DK and Orido ripping the touge heel and toe down shifts … double clutching , you name it. So satisfying to watch but even more awesome to do!
That's the whole entire point tho. Traditional double clutching is for the downshift to eliminate unneeded rev matching for in town drivers. Especially if you have a heavy foot
In low powered cars it makes up shifting smoother. My miata gets upset and rocks it's weight forward going from 1st to second when accelerating hard, double clutching makes it a smoother transition
@@DatAnnexGuy essentially it takes stress off the gearbox by you manually synchronizing gear speeds yourself ("rev matching") instead of letting the synchronizing rings in the gearbox do all the work, which in turn would also unsettle the car a little more
I had the 02 wrx too... the pedals were actually positioned for heel-toe downshifts to stay in the powerband and with a short-throw shifter upgrade it was amazingly easy... I do have an 09 2.5i 5-speed as a daily currently, but i do miss my WRX.
i just saw your comment after posting the exact same thing a day after you, there's something magical going on here "Guido Katz 1 second ago i think i just got why double clutch exists, to spin the clutch plates to higher revs so that the lower gear catches up smoother. might be basic for some but i got there all by myself and that's a win for me :) "
Honestly most people don’t even know why they are doing that, it’s hilarious how badly performed it is, they actually end up doing more bad to the transmission than good. The first clutch is for taking the load off the transmission so you can get to neutral easily, if you can take the load off by manipulating the throttle than you don’t need to do the first clutch. While the pedal is up (clutch engaged), use engine to bring the input shaft speed up or down so that the gear to be locked to the synchronizer hub matches the speed of the hub. The second clutch is again to take the load off the transmission so if you have speed difference between the gear and the dog teeth you won’t clash them together too hard (if the car has no synchronizer ring), again if you can get the speed close you don’t need the second clutch.
Double clutching just introduces premature wear to the entire clutch assembly. It just gives a moment to wait for the rpms to drop before downshifting. Just blip the throttle, a bit past the rev matching rpm, then when tach goes down to the right rpm then release the clutch for downshift, preventing the engine to lurch
long ish drive way to get to the mailbox in terms of my livin area grab second real quick but uhhh yeah few secs's later gota grab 1st and stop at the gate to get the mail *grinds first because for some reason the transmission in dad's truck has a wrecked syncro for first or something so yeaaahhhhhhh thats fun to feel in the hand and in the ears
Most vehicles I've driven, especially trucks, @@djaydeved don't like downshifting into first. I had to pretty much be stopped to shift back to 1st in my buddies old F-250. When you downshift from second to first it puts a lot of strain on those synchros from the gear ratio difference, unless the speed is really low, like 5mph, or rev-match the crap out of it. Going from second to first in my BRZ I have to rev the engine much higher, 2-2.5k rpms higher, than I would from 3rd to 2nd. That's why I usually just keep it in second till I come to a complete stop.
@@djaydeved ik im a year late and you probally already figured this out but never shift back into first unless you are rolling or stopped. 1st gear is just meant to get you going but not meant to go back into while driving cuz it’s just the take off gear, second is usually perfectly fine to go into but I prefer to go into first if I get a chance lol
My 5th gear synchro has been out on my g35 trans since I got it 3 years ago. I learned how to double-clutch by having to find a way to use 5th without grinding. This video description is buttter :D
Trying to left foot brake has a similar effect, you want to smoothly feed on the pressure like you would with your right foot but your left foot seems to suddenly become binary and your passenger headbutts the dashboard
It's far easier to heel and toe on Full brakes but certain tracks will require a downshift while maybe only 50% on the brakes on certain corners, this takes much longer to learn in my experience, I still get it wrong sometimes myself but it's all part of the learning and we all make mistakes :)
I can heel toe, but only if im braking hard like at the track. If it's normal driving (or spirited driving but not crazy) there's no way I'd be able to do heel-toe. There's like 2 inches of height distance between the brake pedal and accelerator at least.
Just takes practice. You are doing the same thing EVERYONE does when they start out. Remember, anything that you try to learn and suck at even the very best professionals did the same. Just, some of them got better faster...
I heel-and-toe my car whenever I come to a stop. Although I did teach myself to double-clutch when I was having constant issues with my concentric slave cylinder (common infiniti G37S issue, I converted it to a clutch fork and external slave and have had no issue), I have a 40 mile commute each way and an exedy stage 2+ clutch. And I'm on my feet all day at the shop. My car's got 175k on her, the synchros are on their way out, but my leg would fall off with all that clutch. I go easy on the trans another way by just waiting to put the shifter in the next gear until after my throttle blip, all while holding the clutch down one time. I know it's maybe not as effective, but I know it's not as hard on the trans because it even works with no clutch depression at all. Once you learn to slip shift your transmission without pushing the clutch, you get really in tune with what it likes and what it doesn't even when you're using the clutch.
Once I accidentally put in gear without clutch and I was surprised after doing that 😅 the rev was perfectly matched and it went smooth Also another time when my left foot was lazy it didn't sound well 😬
I don't know.. I don't see the need for double clutching with modern synchro systems and proper synchro mesh oil. Plus double clutching just moves the wear to your clutch pressure plate and throwout bearing. But if it works for you, go for it!
Is no one going to talk about how absolutely smooth his downshifts are? Like, holy crap, I've been picking it up on my Tiburon little by little, but this man goes down his whole gearbox like strolling down the park, that's motivation 101
i think i just got why double clutch exists, to spin the clutch plates to higher revs so that the lower gear catches up smoother. might be basic for some but i got there all by myself and that's a win for me :)
That’s not actually how it works, you are merely engaging the clutch temporarily so that you can use the engine to bring the input shaft to a speed that causes the gear about to be selected turn the same rate as the synchronizer hub.
Saw this type of subconscious processing in an episode of MHA. Doing multiple things without thinking about it.. so this guy is essentially going PLUS ULTRA!
So for someone who doesn’t understand double clutching. What we are seeing is the driver clutch in, shift to neutral, clutch out, clutch back in, shift to lower gear, clutch out. This is double clutching? Also interested why it’s only on the downshifts?
This just came naturally to me growing up with dirt bikes with clutches. My foot is wide enough that I put the left side of my foot on the break and I can rev match with the right side of my shoe so I don’t have to twist my foot sideways to get the heel on there. I have a 2010 five cylinder five-speed volts wagon golf and it is the easiest clutch I’ve ever driven and this was also car of the year when it came out
Just a tip practice the movement even outside the car, so lets say in class with your feet our while eating dinner just keep doing the movement, suddenly next time in the car youll do it faster than ever. Also if you dont know how to heel toe LEARN NOW because otherwise this wont be possible since its a heeltoe shift but then the double clutch way.
Hmm, and I'm just over here not using the clutch at all but rather just rev-matching, both up and down. Sometimes I grind around with the shift stick but I've mostly gotten used to what revs are needed for what speed and gear I'm going into
Easy to do on the street. There isn't enough time on track to wait around for engine speed to match trans speed perfectly to not use the clutch. Dogbox is a different story.
Drove stick for almost two years now I gotta say for me downshift is much easier to learn and getting proficient at. I'm still working on double clutching on upshift faster when not street driving and still find myself to consciously hesitate. Just need more practice I guess.
This only marginally relates to preserving a gearbox built for street cars that is being used on the track, you should be able to flat shift up with throttle cut and bang down about 3 gears with throttle blip (both without using the clutch), in the time it takes to double clutch down one gear, the clutch is only used to get of the line
I don't drive stick, I'm just watching this for fun and maybe I'll try it when I play on my simrig, but what shocks me is that you can get in the release-push of the clutch AND the blip while smoothly moving the shifter. It's impressive that you don't have to pause the shifter in neutral to do the blip! It's so fast and so perfectly timed, this must have taken hundreds of hours to perfect. Very impressive.
The only vehicle I double clutch is my 1930 Ford Model A, there are no syncros in the transmission and the only way to downshift without grinding the hell out of the gears is to drop to neutral, release the clutch, rev the engine , depress the clutch (while the engine revs are still up), and drop to a lower gear. Everything happens slowly as the 200 cubic engine doesn't respond real fast like a modern vehicle.... And the brakes themselves suck so downshifting is mandatory, I've learned to plan my stops a block away.
The irony of the Fast and Furious line is he gives him shit about not double clutching in a DRAG RACE. A race where you don't double clutch. In-up-out.
For normal driving whether you should double clutch depends on multiple factors like driving conditions, grades, turns, and the vehicle itself and how heavily loaded it is. It's not a black or white issue.
The pros can do both but mostly float the gears to bypass the clutch and avoid needless wear and tear. Double clutch ONLY is for drivers who can't float them properly. That means an 18 speed up and down shifting and while sitting in bumper to bumper traffic in LA.
@@SheehanMotorRacing Yes but you don't need the clutch for that. Even with the Jake's on I can down shift by floating those gears by revving the engine a bit to match the speed on the transmission and in it goes. I only used the clutch when coming to a dead stop or taking off from a dead stop. I can practically come to a complete stop by Jake braking to a stop on a well anticipated stop of course.
@@martinz.4852 true, but you need to be more precise with revs to get into the next lower gear. Using the clutch gives you more wiggle room and lets things happen more quickly.
I read the description and yes it takes the same time as a normal downshift, but for what, to just save on the syncros? You better never miss a shift otherwise you saved on syncros for years but can potentially destroy gears in seconds
No. If you don't get the timing right, the synchros are still there to do what they normally do if you don't double clutch. There is no additional risk, only upside of saving synchros.
In upshift, most of the time, the rpm falls down to a good speed anyway when you get of the throttle. By experience, i would say he still have an heavy flywheel, the engine dont lose too much speed.. At around 0:42, he blips the throttle and its quite slow.
you know it's good when the time to read the description is as long as the actual video
Lol
The best description ever!
My e60 M5 does this for me on downshifts. I’m glad it does, cuz I don’t have the skills.
Great video!
You may need reading lessons if it took that long to read five words.
@@silenceoverbullshit8560 Description, not title. Maybe you are the one who needs those reading lessons.
@@bigfish5443 pretty sure all syncro transmissions do it for you
Half of me is like ‘learn to double clutch, you’ll spare your gearbox’. The other half is ‘don’t learn to double clutch because you’re too shit to not wreck the gearbox in the process’.
My gearbox barely survived me learning manual 😂
I learned double clutching and now I cant drive normally anymore😂
You might save your gearbox but odds are you'll kill the clutch. Syncromeshes are there for a reason
@@MisterMaxicola What exactly is double clutching xD I didnt quite get it.
@@scottneulist9495 You wont kill the clutch, the input gears have almost zero inertia compared the rest of the drivetrain. The clutch almost dont slip at all when you double clutch.
Hearing the tires break loose when you can’t see the road is so wonderful. Pure chaos.
Description is perfect. Going to watch this to hell over the summer.
You can tell this video is from 2009, the description is real and used properly. Not a trash bag for links to scams/merch trash.
@@MiGujack3 Haha yeah so true
@@MiGujack3 yea frfr straight to the point too.
Haha
Not sure how this ended up in my recommended but I'm thankful it was
Someone must have seen how you drive ...
Oh that's double clutching. I didn't realise I've already been doing this forever. I just called it spamming the $hit out of the clutch until it goes into gear. 👍
Mine wouldn't even want to go to the first gear if i dint spam the shit out of the clutch
😂 sounds like you got a bad slave+/ master cylinder
@@rakaputra3726 give it a blimp on the throttle before going into first and see if that helps
I’ve been trying to learn the simple heel toe for downshifting… little did I know I have been double clutching my whole life
Thanks to my curiosity from when I first watched this video I started practicing this technique and trying to perfect it as much as I possibly could, now I can proudly say that I'm almost as fast and efficient with my rev's during my down shifts as this amazing driver!
Let’s goooo
I really love the description. Most people have ridiculously strong opinions about things, but they don't actually have any first hand experience and cannot explain why they have that opinion. It's nice to see someone that is actually able to back up their opinion with facts!
Dude literally took the whole video just reading the description
Have you seen the pause button? ;)
Just found this clip, been doing it for years, but couldn't really explain in detail,but you have, very good,
I just wanna say thank you good sir!! After reading the description you left and watching this video a couple of times I gained the confidence to try double clutch downshifting myself. I'm happy to say I can now double clutch down moderately comfortably after a couple of weeks of occasional practice every time I drive. I'm still blown away at how smooth, fast and full of purpose you do yours with though. This video really inspires me to become even better at it and again thank you for the great content!
Glad I could help!
But why? Serious question. All the newer cars have syncho gearboxes, just makes no sense, unless you're driving a classic.
@@samcrashfull for fun
This video description deserves a Nobel Peace Prize.
Hahaha! Made my day!
I love how smooth he is with the car, despite it being a manual transmission of course. Those are great skills
It's a dying art these days. Sooner or later you'll only find this kind of thing done in front of a PC monitor, playing Assetto Corsa in the future when EVs taking over.
@@Joshua_N-A Right on. Every car enthusiast right now should try and keep their manuals alive, at least for the sake of the next generations.
That’s the most detailed description I’ve ever fully read on yt and it’s amazing, nice explanation
Also it’s not only easy on the transmission but also on the balance of the car, since the transmission won’t have to drag the engine revs up creating excessive stress on the clutch.
Once you get use to double clutch anytime the downshifts become smooth af and quick enough for the situation you’re into.
Great video
Genuine question, why is this any better than a regular rev-matched or heel and toe downshift? Doesn’t the same process happen there? But instead of double tapping the clutch it’s all just done in one motion
@@eddieobrien6960 You preserve your syncros in the process.
Gary Sheehan I appreciate the detail you went into with your description
A full pledge of giving respect to this man for giving a informative description
Imma try this in my car later
howd it go
Seems like it didn't go so well..
I learnt double clutching intuitively, listening and feeling my cars and noticing how it treats the transmission nicer, with a non-aggressive driving.
Didn't know it had a name. 👌😂
I still remember watching best motoring for the first time and seeing guys like DK and Orido ripping the touge heel and toe down shifts … double clutching , you name it. So satisfying to watch but even more awesome to do!
Tha first 3 downshifts are literall perfection! Never seen something like this! You are the man!
this is, hands down, the only video discription i have ever read, and it will br my only one.
When people double clutch shifting up a gear, that's what drives me crazy....
That's the whole entire point tho. Traditional double clutching is for the downshift to eliminate unneeded rev matching for in town drivers. Especially if you have a heavy foot
However for racing it gives you an extra boost in 3rd and 4th
@@gordongiobanni7543 Exactly. But it has to be done properly, and more importantly, quickly.
In low powered cars it makes up shifting smoother. My miata gets upset and rocks it's weight forward going from 1st to second when accelerating hard, double clutching makes it a smoother transition
That’s the whole point and what the driver was doing also.
Magnificent footwork. that sir is art!!
Excellent vid. It takes my Bertil-Roos handbook to a whole different level when it comes to double-clutching.
And this ladies and germs is what a skilled driver looks and sounds like.
double clutching is not only fun but also very statisfying as you feel it being a lot smoother of a gearshift.
Ok I remember it from fast and the furious.. but what is double clutching? LOL
@@JM-qt5mg Read the description
@@darrylkylemurillo2764 nice thanks 👍
So double clutching is for. IF IM UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY. Smoother downshifting.
@@DatAnnexGuy essentially it takes stress off the gearbox by you manually synchronizing gear speeds yourself ("rev matching") instead of letting the synchronizing rings in the gearbox do all the work, which in turn would also unsettle the car a little more
This guy's going for it! Good double clutches and he's not skipping gears going down. Very nice!
After 12 years RUclips recommends me the video... at the home track!
I had the 02 wrx too... the pedals were actually positioned for heel-toe downshifts to stay in the powerband and with a short-throw shifter upgrade it was amazingly easy... I do have an 09 2.5i 5-speed as a daily currently, but i do miss my WRX.
Late to the party but I double clutch my Subarus all the time too and was very excited to find this. Subscribed lol
After all the videos of watching double clutching, now i finally understand what its for. Keep those revs high my bois.
i just saw your comment after posting the exact same thing a day after you, there's something magical going on here
"Guido Katz 1 second ago
i think i just got why double clutch exists, to spin the clutch plates to higher revs so that the lower gear catches up smoother. might be basic for some but i got there all by myself and that's a win for me :) "
No, it’s only for saving the synchronizer blocker rings…
Honestly most people don’t even know why they are doing that, it’s hilarious how badly performed it is, they actually end up doing more bad to the transmission than good. The first clutch is for taking the load off the transmission so you can get to neutral easily, if you can take the load off by manipulating the throttle than you don’t need to do the first clutch. While the pedal is up (clutch engaged), use engine to bring the input shaft speed up or down so that the gear to be locked to the synchronizer hub matches the speed of the hub. The second clutch is again to take the load off the transmission so if you have speed difference between the gear and the dog teeth you won’t clash them together too hard (if the car has no synchronizer ring), again if you can get the speed close you don’t need the second clutch.
Double clutching just introduces premature wear to the entire clutch assembly. It just gives a moment to wait for the rpms to drop before downshifting. Just blip the throttle, a bit past the rev matching rpm, then when tach goes down to the right rpm then release the clutch for downshift, preventing the engine to lurch
@@khernitzz no, it doesn't cause premature wear. lol
Hey, I do this all the time! Not that I’m a good driver, but a poor student with worn synchros
long ish drive way to get to the mailbox in terms of my livin area
grab second real quick but uhhh yeah few secs's later gota grab 1st and stop at the gate to get the mail
*grinds first because for some reason the transmission in dad's truck has a wrecked syncro for first or something so yeaaahhhhhhh thats fun to feel in the hand and in the ears
Most vehicles I've driven, especially trucks, @@djaydeved don't like downshifting into first. I had to pretty much be stopped to shift back to 1st in my buddies old F-250. When you downshift from second to first it puts a lot of strain on those synchros from the gear ratio difference, unless the speed is really low, like 5mph, or rev-match the crap out of it. Going from second to first in my BRZ I have to rev the engine much higher, 2-2.5k rpms higher, than I would from 3rd to 2nd. That's why I usually just keep it in second till I come to a complete stop.
@@djaydeved ik im a year late and you probally already figured this out but never shift back into first unless you are rolling or stopped. 1st gear is just meant to get you going but not meant to go back into while driving cuz it’s just the take off gear, second is usually perfectly fine to go into but I prefer to go into first if I get a chance lol
12 years later, thx youtube for the recommendation
My 5th gear synchro has been out on my g35 trans since I got it 3 years ago. I learned how to double-clutch by having to find a way to use 5th without grinding. This video description is buttter :D
I'm getting my first Miata tomorrow...I'm going to need to work on this...😅 You make it look too easy!
You can do it!
The F&F line is still dumb though, because they were drag racing, so no need for a downshift until the race is over
Definitely weren’t granny shifting either. You could teach the buster a few things.
Winnings winning 🤷♂️😁
Satisfying how smooth this person is.
So all these years I thought I was killing my te72 shifting this way. Guess ive been double clutching, this was a good video.
awesome video and description
When I try double clutching, I press the brakes too hard and almost launch the passenger and I through the windshield
Heel 'n toe not recommended for applications outside of racing. It's a technique made for blipping at revs near the limiter, not at low revs lol.
Trying to left foot brake has a similar effect, you want to smoothly feed on the pressure like you would with your right foot but your left foot seems to suddenly become binary and your passenger headbutts the dashboard
It's far easier to heel and toe on Full brakes but certain tracks will require a downshift while maybe only 50% on the brakes on certain corners, this takes much longer to learn in my experience, I still get it wrong sometimes myself but it's all part of the learning and we all make mistakes :)
I can heel toe, but only if im braking hard like at the track. If it's normal driving (or spirited driving but not crazy) there's no way I'd be able to do heel-toe. There's like 2 inches of height distance between the brake pedal and accelerator at least.
Just takes practice. You are doing the same thing EVERYONE does when they start out.
Remember, anything that you try to learn and suck at even the very best professionals did the same. Just, some of them got better faster...
Save this video, this will he historical in automotive history 😍
Fun and entertaining just watching this. Makes me want to drive around my city like a mad man
double clutch downshifting + left foot braking when possible makes me feel like a god
That looks easy enough!
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I heel-and-toe my car whenever I come to a stop. Although I did teach myself to double-clutch when I was having constant issues with my concentric slave cylinder (common infiniti G37S issue, I converted it to a clutch fork and external slave and have had no issue), I have a 40 mile commute each way and an exedy stage 2+ clutch. And I'm on my feet all day at the shop. My car's got 175k on her, the synchros are on their way out, but my leg would fall off with all that clutch. I go easy on the trans another way by just waiting to put the shifter in the next gear until after my throttle blip, all while holding the clutch down one time. I know it's maybe not as effective, but I know it's not as hard on the trans because it even works with no clutch depression at all. Once you learn to slip shift your transmission without pushing the clutch, you get really in tune with what it likes and what it doesn't even when you're using the clutch.
Once I accidentally put in gear without clutch and I was surprised after doing that 😅 the rev was perfectly matched and it went smooth
Also another time when my left foot was lazy it didn't sound well 😬
The moving shadows really told a story
the thing is,that double clutching is used for DOWNSHIFTS here,in fast and furious they were doing a drag race where it´s mostly UPSHIFTS
That's the joke ;)
I don't know.. I don't see the need for double clutching with modern synchro systems and proper synchro mesh oil. Plus double clutching just moves the wear to your clutch pressure plate and throwout bearing. But if it works for you, go for it!
Heel and Toe is where it's at. Weight shift balance is important when you want to be smooth.
Look at him brake and rev at the same time while down shifting
Damn!
The way his shifting make statfiying
So this is why there’s so many subarus with blown heart boxes.
Did you spell that right buddy
@@ogpd4898 idk you tell me
@@ithinkweregoingtoneedabigg8525 I think it’s safe to say you didn’t
Autocurrupt strikes again.
@@Kj16V lmfaoooo
Liked, downloaded, added to favorites, subscribed
That perfect camera angle
I done it deliberate!
That heel toe technique is just majestic
Something tells me this guys badass
he jus lift-off oversteered so damn good
Is no one going to talk about how absolutely smooth his downshifts are? Like, holy crap, I've been picking it up on my Tiburon little by little, but this man goes down his whole gearbox like strolling down the park, that's motivation 101
I respect that description a lot! Learned a bunch from it! Thank you for the info and video!
i think i just got why double clutch exists, to spin the clutch plates to higher revs so that the lower gear catches up smoother. might be basic for some but i got there all by myself and that's a win for me :)
That’s not actually how it works, you are merely engaging the clutch temporarily so that you can use the engine to bring the input shaft to a speed that causes the gear about to be selected turn the same rate as the synchronizer hub.
Well it makes much more sense with downshifts because the shifting time doesn't even matter much, but still hard to get used to 😅
Saw this type of subconscious processing in an episode of MHA. Doing multiple things without thinking about it.. so this guy is essentially going PLUS ULTRA!
It doesn't matter whether you win by an inch or a mile, winning is winning.
You make this look so easy, whenever ive tried it I get so afriad of letting out the clutch when I'm not fully in neutral
Don't be afraid. If you don't get the timing right, you still have the synchros there to do what they normally do.
Subscribed.
Just learned how to double clutch.
🚀
It's like The Matrix and Kung Fu!
So for someone who doesn’t understand double clutching. What we are seeing is the driver clutch in, shift to neutral, clutch out, clutch back in, shift to lower gear, clutch out. This is double clutching?
Also interested why it’s only on the downshifts?
Read description.
@@SheehanMotorRacing Thanks! Great info in the description.
Music to my ears.
When your race car still have the factory cup holder
Post-race beer holder in my paddock...
@@SheehanMotorRacing being a biug eye owner I understand, you can fit 40s in it lmao
This just came naturally to me growing up with dirt bikes with clutches. My foot is wide enough that I put the left side of my foot on the break and I can rev match with the right side of my shoe so I don’t have to twist my foot sideways to get the heel on there. I have a 2010 five cylinder five-speed volts wagon golf and it is the easiest clutch I’ve ever driven and this was also car of the year when it came out
Best description ever, read it!
Just a tip practice the movement even outside the car, so lets say in class with your feet our while eating dinner just keep doing the movement, suddenly next time in the car youll do it faster than ever. Also if you dont know how to heel toe LEARN NOW because otherwise this wont be possible since its a heeltoe shift but then the double clutch way.
Hmm, and I'm just over here not using the clutch at all but rather just rev-matching, both up and down. Sometimes I grind around with the shift stick but I've mostly gotten used to what revs are needed for what speed and gear I'm going into
Easy to do on the street. There isn't enough time on track to wait around for engine speed to match trans speed perfectly to not use the clutch. Dogbox is a different story.
Awesome content! All them manual boys take notes🚗🏁
Nice driving... Asmr for us drivers..especially with scooby noise 😘
This guy don't fucking miss. Wtf he's insane
Drove stick for almost two years now I gotta say for me downshift is much easier to learn and getting proficient at. I'm still working on double clutching on upshift faster when not street driving and still find myself to consciously hesitate. Just need more practice I guess.
Where was this video when I was learning heel-toe?
Me on a motorcycle :
*INTERESTING*
Please publish the description as your master's thesis.
This only marginally relates to preserving a gearbox built for street cars that is being used on the track, you should be able to flat shift up with throttle cut and bang down about 3 gears with throttle blip (both without using the clutch), in the time it takes to double clutch down one gear, the clutch is only used to get of the line
You can do that, but I'll beat you. And I won't have to crack the transmission open every season to repair all the abuse you've given it.
That sound is so goood
I don't drive stick, I'm just watching this for fun and maybe I'll try it when I play on my simrig, but what shocks me is that you can get in the release-push of the clutch AND the blip while smoothly moving the shifter. It's impressive that you don't have to pause the shifter in neutral to do the blip! It's so fast and so perfectly timed, this must have taken hundreds of hours to perfect. Very impressive.
It takes a day of effort, at most, to get the timing down.
@@SheehanMotorRacing Damn, I might give it a bit of practise, thanks!
The only vehicle I double clutch is my 1930 Ford Model A, there are no syncros in the transmission and the only way to downshift without grinding the hell out of the gears is to drop to neutral, release the clutch, rev the engine , depress the clutch (while the engine revs are still up), and drop to a lower gear.
Everything happens slowly as the 200 cubic engine doesn't respond real fast like a modern vehicle.... And the brakes themselves suck so downshifting is mandatory, I've learned to plan my stops a block away.
I dont care how many transmissions i go through i will master this
Thank you for the description! I think I learned a lot
The irony of the Fast and Furious line is he gives him shit about not double clutching in a DRAG RACE. A race where you don't double clutch. In-up-out.
For normal driving whether you should double clutch depends on multiple factors like driving conditions, grades, turns, and the vehicle itself and how heavily loaded it is. It's not a black or white issue.
I had always wondered about this, thank you for the great explanation.
Thanks for the vid, now I have something to reference to when practicing
My mans has studied anatomy and neurology ❤️
Man crip walked on the pedals
1:44 this shift was soooooooooooooooo nice lmao. i said "oh my god" out loud
Dude already had new head gaskets in order :)
The pros can do both but mostly float the gears to bypass the clutch and avoid needless wear and tear. Double clutch ONLY is for drivers who can't float them properly. That means an 18 speed up and down shifting and while sitting in bumper to bumper traffic in LA.
Floating is for upshifts. You need to speed up the layshaft to match roadspeed of the output shaft on downshifts.
@@SheehanMotorRacing Yes but you don't need the clutch for that. Even with the Jake's on I can down shift by floating those gears by revving the engine a bit to match the speed on the transmission and in it goes. I only used the clutch when coming to a dead stop or taking off from a dead stop. I can practically come to a complete stop by Jake braking to a stop on a well anticipated stop of course.
@@martinz.4852 true, but you need to be more precise with revs to get into the next lower gear. Using the clutch gives you more wiggle room and lets things happen more quickly.
Lots of youtube experts commenting here, many of which don’t seem to have ever actually owned a car with a manual gearbox
What a great explanation, thank you!
I shall practice this on my way to Togo’s in my 01 civic 282,000 miles
Wish I had a canyon close by to practice this technique.
I read the description and yes it takes the same time as a normal downshift, but for what, to just save on the syncros? You better never miss a shift otherwise you saved on syncros for years but can potentially destroy gears in seconds
No. If you don't get the timing right, the synchros are still there to do what they normally do if you don't double clutch. There is no additional risk, only upside of saving synchros.
Double clutch when you downshift and rev match during upshift? No double clutching up shifts?
correct
In upshift, most of the time, the rpm falls down to a good speed anyway when you get of the throttle.
By experience, i would say he still have an heavy flywheel, the engine dont lose too much speed.. At around 0:42, he blips the throttle and its quite slow.