2022 Honda Civic Si - POV Night Driving Impressions
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- MSRP: From $27,300
Horsepower: 200 hp
Engine: 1.5 L 4-cylinder
Tire size: P235/40R18
MPG: 27 city / 37 highway
Curb weight: 2,952 lbs
Transmission: 6-speed manual
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god i always love how unenergetic and unhyped topher is. he's not some shouty screaming person that makes my ears fold into themselves every time the video loads
it's clear & concise, while still being enthusiastic about the review. def my fav car yt channel
and his downshifts are a thing of beauty as well lolol
@@jettaletta he even drives pretty much exactly like I would so its the closest thing I get to being in it myself
Agree 100%. Really allows for the viewer to pay attention to the sounds and vehicle itself!
you talking about Raitis ride
You mean these types: "HEY WHATS UP GUYS ITS YA BOI DIESEL_BUDDY COMIN' ATCHA WITH A BADASS NEW CAR HOLY SHIT THIS ONES A STICK SO I'MMA SIT ON THAT BEOTCH AND ROTATE, YA BOIIIIII"
MSRP: $27,300
Dealer price after markup: $45,990
Don't you love it?
Yeah lol... get a BMW at that point.
BMW doesn't even compare to the quality and longevity of a civic👌🤌
@@jayhut2262 LOL
As long as fanbois exists dealers are going to take advantage. I wouldn't even pay MSRP for this car.
Love my 23 Si. Wouldn’t buy a car without watching your review first. Love everything about this car. Coming from a coyote mustang, you think I’d miss the power. But the handling, gas mileage, and practicality are amazing. Plus it’s a blast to drive. Flawless manual transmission!
Was wondering if I'd feel like a downgrade from a v6 challenger but I think your comment is a good sign that that's a no
@@awesometico you definitely won’t regret it
If this car existed last spring when I was shopping I would have bought one. Ended up in a TLX, which is great, but having cheaper running costs and a stick with the Si is tempting. I'm also going to give the Integra a hard look when it finally launches. Not a bad time to be an enthusiast.
The tlx is badass
everyones hating on the integra but if it comes out in spring then I'll probably go for it, if not then I'll just find an si
@@jackmcinnis4510 I would wait for the Type S to arrive..I am pretty sure they will bring one out
honestly even though my 328i currently makes more power I like this and may have to make the switch especially for the tech
Nah, you picked a great choice with the TLX
What a beautiful sounding engine and considering the gas mileage and the fact that it'll run for 300,000 miles seems like a real bargain to me.
The 1.5t? lol
Coming from a service advisor at a Honda dealer, I don’t believe I’ve seen a 1.5T with 200k yet, much less 300k. Best so far was around 110k and it was rough. That being said, most people don’t actually take care of their 1.5Ts and that contributes to them failing. They’re not the Honda engines of old where you can abuse it endlessly and it keep going, they require maintenance. With proper maintenance, I could see one possibly reaching 200k, but it’d be a stretch.
anyone else notice on the tach that only the numbers around the needle light up?? I love cool tech like this
dop you also love the coolant temp needle delete? Or the heated seat delete? Fog light delete, Full center digital cluster delete, 5 HP delete, Adaptive dampers delete. Dual zone climate delete? those are all my favorites
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This Civic has one of these nicest interiors I’ve seen in a car of this category just perfect and above all competitors.
Love this car. A lot of bang for the buck and the styling is back to what it should be. Shame about the rev hang and the weird piped-in engine noise.
I imagine you could tune out the rev hang and disable the fake noise, and you'd have a hell of a little car. Can't wait to see the Type R.
I agree. Take care of those two things and you’re good.
too bad you'll never get it for the price
@@AdamOutOfPocket God forbid we get cars at or close to msrp. If only.
@@frazierl7898 I’m getting mine for 33k down in Miami, the negotiations I had to do to get it even down to that was like I was tryna save a hostage, these cars are not cheap rn
The piped in engine noise is annoying and will be one of the first things I do when I get mine. Same as the 10th gen Si/Type R. Honda really should have just made a button or a menu toggle. You actually have to disconnect the module for that behind the glove box. Rev hang is because of CARB emissions laws. Aftermarket tune eliminates that as well.
I really like the styling both inside and out. The ergonomics also look great, down to the simple sans serif font that displays the speed. I would buy one in this exact orange spec if I was looking for a FWD sporty sedan.
If I can find one for the correct price around here sometime I'd really consider upgrading from my 8th gen.
Really liking the night drives, btw
I love my fa5 so much but same here bro bro time for 11th gen 😂
Canada has important features and pricing that America doesn't and makes this car a lot harder to like.
Is the fake engine noise generated from the engine itself and modified within the module, or completely generated from the module?
Thank you for the great videos!!!
I believe the module detects the engine RPM and makes its own synthesised sound which would depend on the RPM.
Dude that touch screen took 30 seconds to come on lol. Ridiculous.
Rev hang is thanks to CARB. A solid choice for a daily driver and definitely a solid base to add some additional fun mods. Being in Canada - I'll be using Ktuner/Hondata to take care of that rev hang and getting a nice boost of 30-40hp/tq as well.
For daily driving the rev hang actually makes shifting a lot smoother. I have the phearable tune on my Si and they leave rev hang enabled by default. TSP tunes take it out and people mention that it is much more jerky. I have a 2020 and my rev hang seems better than in the 2017-2019 models.
@@Tool0GT92 The jerkiness can be fixed with a motor mount
Tune it = voiding your warranty
@@closg9309 I'm not worried about it. You can flash it to stock, plus they have to prove the tune damaged whatever you are claiming on the warranty. Plus the 1.5T doesn't have a lot of issues so its fine with me.
I love the night drive videos the best. As someone who works midnights, I drive to work in the pitch black and I enjoy seeing what the lights and everything look like in the dark
Man I absolutely love your videos. You, tedward, your sub for the channel, and other car reviewers are like my morning coffee haha. I've really been watching your vids on your old brz and the review on the newer one. I have an nb miata currently and would like to upgrade to the brz platform. With used car prices I'm not seeing a point in getting the previous gen when the new brz retails for 5k more than used ones with 40k miles. Its nuts and I might have to wait longer until prices go down or I get more income. :(
I can definitely relate to the morning coffee, these car reviewers legit put me to a good start in the mornings - Topher, Tedward, Jayemm On Cars, Zygrene, etc. 💪👍
Yes! Finally, been waiting for this POV night driving 2022 Honda Si. Thank you, sir! 😊👍🏻
I want to like this car. I’m a little bummed out by the infotainment laggy start up and it’s slow reactivity. In my 18 accord with similar system (minus wireless CarPlay) it’s lighting fast comparatively. While a massive improvement over 10th gen, this just feels old when it’s slow to react.
Lastly, Canada gets in this trim right and lower cost. What gives Honda?
Everyone says it’s cheaper in Canada but it’s not. Once you add provincial Taxes which is around $4500 and Freight and PDI is $1800 its still more expensive than the US version. Even with the currency exchange
Thanks for checking this out again, your style of reviews are almost one of a kind and I love it! I ordered a sonic grey SI a couple weeks ago in Canada, so I’m lucky to have a few more features then the one your driving.
They are nice cars but I am in Canada as well and the Si isn’t worth 42 grand here. The dealers are full blown scum but when and things will return to normal I hope people remember these dealers for what they are. The MSRP of this car is 33, 800 ish with PDI and freight.
@@kennordsfan1494 I was lucky enough to get one for msrp, in my area of BC. Taxes and everything came out to be about $37,500 with a couple accessories.
@@andreask3087 In a dealer in Alberta it was 42,300 plus tax would be 44,415 for the orange color Si. I am needing a new car as well as my lease will be due in 4 months. And the prices and interest rates are horrible.My previous lease was .09% 39 month term and 190 a month on a 18 Si and only 38,000 KMS on it MSRP was 30,8632 in 2019 can sell it i guess and make some money and wait for these prices to drop. 🤷♂️. Enjoy your need Si
@@kennordsfan1494 wow man, yeah interest rates aren’t the best that’s for sure. If I were you I’d look around in BC to import to Alberta because all said and done you’ll prolly save money. I mean where I am I’m 3 hours from the Alberta border.
If we can get the Si with the same features that the Canadian spec has, I'd be more enticed to buy the car. Great review nonetheless
Sucks they don’t have the coupe anymore.
Thanks for the vid. I bought a black one after watching your drive in cali. Mine is a daily driver/family hauler.. So far it’s been nothing but a treat. thanks for the quality content - def helpful for a first time new car buyer.
When will there be cars like this? My dealership has FIVE Civics of any type (SoCal)... That's why the markups.
Was looking for another review.. perfect timing. This car is such a great value for the price.
Owned a MK10 for a year or so, really enjoyed it. Only thing I didn't like was the adaptive suspension being tied to the steering and the immense rev-hang. Glad to see this fixes one of those issues at least, even if that means no adaptive dampers at all.
Awesome car. Too bad in order to get the truly FULLY loaded SI you have to go to Canada. Honda is only selling the fully loaded Si only in Canada for some reason. Factory fog lights and a couple more options only Canadian Si's have.
Yeah it is kind of lame. I hope the type r doesnt get the same treatment because i am going to be trading in my ‘18 type r for the 2023 whenever it goes on sale.
It’s always been like this tho Canadian cars are much better equipped same with other brands too.
They’ve been doing this since the 07 si 🤣 Canada gets everything better then us when it comes to Honda
Makes me all the more excited to see the Integra.
This with leather, fastback, and either adaptive or slightly softer ride mated to their ILX DCT? Perfection. Just hope not the TLX 10-auto.... and god please not the Civic CVT.
Knowing acura they SHOULDNT put a CVT on it. Its confirmed it will come with a 6 speed manual. Maybe they will use the 8 speed DCT that was on the old ILX or a 10 speed who knows
New Integra will be 35K MSRP = 45K with dealer Mark ups plus taxes and Fees?
Man if this thing wasn’t laughably ugly it would be a pretty sick car.
how did you get your hands on one? i have been trying to find one around my area for months now but because of the chip shortage there’s none around. this car looks amazing.
Have a '19' SI Coupe which I like, and exceeded my expectations, and glad I have it. But dealing with the rev hang for 2 1/2 years nothing could convince me to go through that again with the new model. I just drive It normal now which is sad and defeats the point of having a stick.
hondata flashpro dude... or ktuner... gets rid of it
Man... the engine sound is much much nicer to hear without the fake engine noise...
Notis. Great Video! Have a down payment on a blue one... Just waiting now.
Blue has always looked good on Civic’s. At least IMO
You know how to please Topher, I was just thinking about this vehicle today.
Question how is the ride quality? Is it comfortable enough for long distance and can it handle imperfections on the road?
At highway speeds the ride smoothes out a lot, but it's on the stiffer side around town.
@@TheTopher thank you I appreciate it. I’m stuck between this or getting an MK7.5 GTI (if prices can stop going up)
I really love how that Honda shifts but I don’t want to have too stiff of a ride. I live in PA and the roads are hot garbage.
he mentions this in the video.
@@TheTopher Is the suspension softer than the Veloster N?
@@TheSpaceyJacey a seesaw rides better than a veloster N
wait, ive been watching you forever and just now realized you're driving 5mins from where i live...small world, anyways love the content, you helped me pick out my new 22 civic si i just picked up yesterday, love the vids
It would be an easy sell if it had all of the features the Canadian market cars have. Hopefully they’ll add the missing stuff for the next model year
For the price.... Most dealers are trying to get $35k for this car in the USA. Nice that the only complaint in most cases in rev match buried .. means they did a pretty good job with everything else.
This may be my next car. Right now I have a 8th gen and looking to change cars. It’s going to be either this or the new integra.
Not sure why I'm watching this since I picked up mine 3 days ago... LOL, great POV regardless!
what'd you pay for it?
@@jackmcinnis4510 I'm in Canada and I paid MSRP plus 279$ theft insurance
@@Wilsonever if only it was like that in the us, everything is marked up $10k or more
@@jackmcinnis4510 My mom recently bought a 2022 RAV4 that was worth 31k but we paid a 5k markup
Many people have complained about how conservative it is in the styling department. I appreciate it. Not everything that is quick needs to be visually loud. Hopefully in the next few years they will add the Canadian exclusive stuff to the US market cars
Some people say it’s boring, I say it’s clean. Looks really cool but will age well like GTIs do.
I've been enjoying mine that's for sure
One of my favorite car reviewers.. my favorite of all the 22 si reviews. Driving skills are on point and it would be fun to run some canyons with you. That being said I ordered an orange one back in November , still no eta 3 months later.. It took over 5 dealerships to even order one for me, let alone with the specs and price I was willing to pay. Haha I would walk in waving cash in the air and they would all pretty much tell me to pound sand 🤣 .
It is annoying that everyone states this as a car “under 28k” it’s not so that needs to be removed from people vocabulary.. Markup is just a reality of the times we’re living in and people are going to have to except that if they want this, or any other car for that matter.. I’m in California and some dealerships are asking a 8-10k markup which is insane for any new honda no matter the model. This is coming from a person who has owned a multitude of honda models ranging from 88 to 2017.. My advice is to have everything broken down on paper for what your willing to to spend.. Be aggressive and see through the markups vs added on expenses. I was able to Secure one with a 2,900 markup which is acceptable to me. Can’t wait
This might be my backup if the Integra costs too much (with markup).
Hoping to upgrade to a 2022 SI from my 2015 CR-Z. Wish we got the heated seats though.
sounds impressive, much better than the previous gen
My only complaint is you have to get a Touring or a Sport Touring to get a damn sunglass holder. The SI won't get one either. Why?!
Unless you are getting the Canadian Civic Si, it is better to get the Jetta GLI to be honest. They omitted too many features to make space for upcoming integra.
Im a huge fan of the Si models, what Im not a fan of is the dealership markup for these cars. It’s outrageous
Really cool that the Si is made to be driven hard and fun
How is the road noise on the highway compared to the BRZ? I loved my BRZ but wow it was loud on a road trip haha
the 1999 honda prelude had 200 horsepower. I am surprised that in 2022 the civic si is not more powerful.
what's the yellow warning light thats always on in the top middle area of the instrument cluster?
i think that is the light showing that traction control is off
Good video! I went to a honda dealership looking for a crv on black Friday and saw this in blue. I asked the salesman if it's available and he said a guy ordered it and then last minute bought a touring. I jumped on it and got it for msrp! Coming from a 2016 camaro 2ss 6mt this car is still fun and I cant wait to autocross it. The front diff works great and on my 30mile highway commute it averages 41mpg! Can't beat it if u need 4 doors and good fuel economy.
The rev hang is there but I dont think its too bad once the car is warmed up.
This car looks like a fun car to drive seem like it's very nimble to toss around corners
Since the fake noise is mostly in the sport setting, can you just use individual mode and select most of the presets from sport ? Would that eliminate the fake sound or at least make it sound like in normal mode but with full throttle response etc ?
Notification squad
This color is horrible
Picking mine up today! Can't wait!
How's the 2022 Civic SI with performance , power, and handling by your experience?
@@thethreatwrestling.7053 The car handles great, stiff suspension but not annoying. The rev-matching works great and shifts are short and smooth. The clutch pedal seems a bit long of a throw and I'm 6ft, and my knee sometimes is hitting the steering wheel which is as far back as it can go. For power, it seems like it could use more, maybe it just feels different to me being a turbo car. I had a 2013 civic Si sedan and compared them next to each other on the highway. They're both almost equal in power but the 2022 just slowly pulls ahead of the 2013. The stock all season tires are also not the greatest, but they are not terrible. All in, it's a great car, would highly recommend it! Just might need a slight tune to maybe 220hp.
Finally a Honda civic that looks good
Sounds like quite a bit of road noise
Gotta keep it under 3000lbs somehow 🤣
The sound is amazing man. Like kinda old school sound
Just curious. Have you tried stalling the car the first time u drive it?
This is as much car as most people ever need.
Makes me excited for the manual integra I'm about to get!
Drive the 2022 Honda Civic SPORT !
El coche de mis sueños...😍
Dose that thing not bounce you around in 1st and 2nd gear when you let off the throttle?
U HAVE THE BEST REVIES. I WATCH ALL OF THEM
i’m in love with this car.
If you can I’d appreciate you doing one with the new gr 86!
yeah these are my 2 options too. after having a 2022 lx and being impressed with the chassis on the base model, the si seems like the better choice. but rwd on the brz is def making it hard
This, an S2000, and a Land Cruiser/4runner is my ideal 3-car garage.
Imagine the Acura Integra 🤔🤯🤩😎
Let’s see how the Integra improves on this.
i built that
Now if only it was offered as a hatch Si
The only thing from stopping me pulling the trigger on one of these is the idle-stop feature. Is there a way to permanently disable it?
I will say with headphones on at normal volume adjusted to your voice that road noise was atrocious. Hopefully it's just the cheap Goodyear all seasons like most people chalk it up to.
The only reason I didn’t pull the trigger on this car is that for the high mark ups does not have electric seats and a build in navigation system
MSRP + 10,000k markup! Niiiiiice! :|
Man if this car got rid of the rev hang and it were faster, I’d really be thinking hard about it. It’s nice!
Tune it make it faster and eliminate the rev hang
Put $1000 in it and you can solve both of those issues
Starting to learn stick shift from work. Eventually will be getting a first car soon would this be a good car to prefect driving manual. I’m driving Toyota Corolla with a 6 speed or the new GR-86 at work and I’m slowly getting the hang of things
This or the new forte GT? Dealers want 5k markup on the SI and the kia comes more equipped by far. If your ok with adding your own LSD, the civic seems like a hard sell.
The thing I love about the si is that you can see how planted the car is even at its upper limit
If the new Integra drives and handles like this car I’m buying it. I’ve been holding off on buying a car because I want to see what the new Integra is all about. I could get the Civic Si but I prefer the added features and the mature look of the new Integra.
I think the si looks more mature than the Integra. The Integra looks like... idk....
I don’t like the look of the Integra st all. Id rather the SI or the Type R if its priced the same
Red cloth buckets that look like something out of a 70s Camaro? I'm waiting for the Integra.
I love it! The color is pretty 😍
Compared to my 10th gen 2018 EXT, you get less and pay more.
Not a fan. My local Honda dealerships are dying for me to trade in my Civic for the 11th gen. After test driving, I found it to me more sluggish compared to my 2018 Civic. The exterior lacks distinction and now looks identical to the Accord. It also has a smaller trunk, smaller glove compartment, smaller armrest, no extra large cup holder, one less USB port, and no side view camera. All that for just $1,000 more MSRP than my 2018.
Thanks, but no thanks. I’ll hold onto to my 2018 until perhaps the 12th gen.
Wireless CarPlay? You in Canada?
Buyer beware. This civic already has problems stacking up. Brake pedal malfunction off showroom floor. Moisture build up in new LED headlight units…reliability slipping.
Steering rack was replaced now it drives in lane smh
That artificial sound coming from the speakers sounds like my dog growling!
engine sound is pretty impressive
That artificial note is awful, glad it can be muted.
I still prefer the last generation. My 2019 looks like something a young person would drive. The new one looks like I have 4 kids that are in middle school and I listen to Third Day
This new one feels like it has more class in my opinion, but it would've been nice to get a coupe, at least there's no more hdmi exhaust
If that’s the case then the new one is the car for me lol
Dare I say it but the 2016-2021 looks more modern. Tech wise this one has an edge.
This car isn’t for me, if I had to get a new car I’d pick the Mazda 3
2019 looks disgusting.
Why is looking like a bmw?😂
I love my new Honda Civic 22SI. But the fact that Honda puts so many more options in the Canada version is mind blowing to me. What's up with that. Just build the car with all the options and sell it the same in Canada in the USA.hello Honda!!!!!!!
Why would someone do this over a Jetta GLI? Similar priced, way better options, better performance, etc
Reliability maybe? Idk
Night drive seemed cooler than the day drive.
Cool vid. I just said goodbye to my dear ole 04 Acura TSX 6 speed and I don't see many sedan options that compare to its size and driving fun but this looks like a great option and since they're both Honda products I'm sure I'd adapt easily to the SI. My only concern is the reliability of that small displacement turbo. Any idea on the data of its long-term performance? TIA.
So glad I got rid of this slow pos and got an fl5. This thing has less hp than the new Prius and worse mpg to boot. It has a slower 0-60 than the new Prius and about the same 0-60 and hp as the base model Camry. Honda has not kept up with the times, it's had about 200 hp since 2006.
They aren’t even comparable
Honda still with that slooooowww ass touchscreen startup. That shit has always taken forever. Really a shame they haven't improved that. Often times, it doesn't even activate reverse camera in time to back out of the parking spot. Let me guess: the TPMS still can't tell you the pressure in each tire or even which tire is low, right?
I'm debating between the Si vs the Sport touring hatchback. Kinda wish Honda released a hatch version too