Bigstack is how I found sreetips so I love when I see people mention him. No surprise there's a lot of overlap in their fanbases, even if their methods and materials aren't the same.
That cement, silver 5 gallon bucket reminds me of that one time I seen on RUclips where a armed cash vehicle was parked in New York with the back open and a guy just passed by picked up a 5 gallon bucket, which was full of gold powder. Now that’s a big come up, never found the guy
I love that you show all of your processes. It would be easy to just show the successes and none of the set backs but you always seem to show where things go wrong and I love that. Thank you.
Honestly sreetips, it’s time for you to go induction furnace. I bought a “kit” one on eBay a couple years ago that’s 48-60v and 50 amps. Cost me about $120 including the cooling radiator, water pump, fan, coil, driver, and crucible. The power supply was the potential expensive part, but being a nerd I opted for a used server power supply that runs on 220v and puts out 80a constant current. I drilled a 1/8” hole in the small crucible and have it sitting over a bucket of water. I’ll start with throwing a piece of paper on the bottom of the crucible to catch the cement silver, and load it up with about 100g of cement silver. Once I turn it on, it takes less that 3 minutes to come fully up to temp, and once I get a drip of silver coming from the bottom, I just constantly spoon feed cement silver into it as it melts and drips into the catch pan. You could automate this by installing a small screw feed into the bottom of a bucket full of cement silver, and have it auger/feed the silver at a set speed automatically while dripping into a bucket underneath it. Turn it on, and work on something else as your silver works for you!
Very nice! Love how well u handled busted crucible i didnt handle it as well win my crucible broke with 100g of gold! It was bad day but i eventually got most of it back still missing around 2g tho
The crucibles cracking was a bummer. I leave a gap between the fire bricks wider than half the crucible and position a weeding torch to engulf the entire bottom in flame. It reduces the thermal energy required from the top and keeps temperatures more even from inside versus outside the dish. All that silver represents a lot of refined gold, very impressive work!
Great idea! The physical strain on a melt dish from the mass of silver (its weight) when picked up repeatedly with a gooseneck pliers might contribute to the cracks as well as the temperature differential between top and bottom so additionally use your spring loaded Crucible holder.
Things always seem to happen just as you are about to pour. My own furnace mishap a while back also was at that point. Like the universe is purposefully picking the most dangerous few seconds for stuff to happen XD. Glad to know you're OK and the metal didn't cause injuries! Always use PPE, folks.
VEVOR makes a single phase induction smelter with a 3kg crucible for under $200. will make that cement go quick. and it's safer than blowing fire onto dust type materials.
I think if I had this much silver to process, I'd go pour a nice slab of concrete in the back yard and build a forge. Then go buy an antique cast iron kettle and make it so I could pour the entire batch of molten silver right into a bucket of watet to create the shot. Run the thing on wood and save money by not using acetylene to melt the silver.
Allways a pleasure to see your videos. This time, I dont know how much silver recovered with a spoon of ash, but you lost a lot with that craked cricible, in my opinion... You must have a strong hart.
Maybe get out the furnace and pour a couple dozen bars instead of making the shot and having to deal with the mess/cleanup that goes along with it? Might be more efficient to grab a bar or two from the stack, lift the anode up and place them right under the anode whenever its needed? I did this in mine and it works quite well given the anode is the same shape as the feeding silver (blank round) and it fits nicely in the :)
@@sreetips this is not a bad idea, the slimes will be displaced better (to the sides of the anode basket by the large mass), the electrolytic erosion still works. Shot might be marginally better for surface area of course but this is very good for your method of using small melt dishes and easier on the wrist action than a 5 lb Crucible at the end of a 4 1/2 ft holder. Give it a try? A round rimmed bottom mold would be best but any shape to start the test is better.
Thanks for another great video Sreetips😃 Sad that the crucibles broke, lucky you didn't get hurt 🙏🏻. We can call it "shorter interruptions in production due to replacement of consumables😂". /Dennis
put the heat source shooting straight down in the center, dont try to rush it with the handheld torch. i think it causes the crucible lattice to warp and fracture when one part gets hotter or cooler as you swirl the mixture
Those poor little ceramic crucibles are great for how cheap they are but they definitely don’t hold up very well over prolonged use. Time for the big boy
Thermal shock is annoying. Silicon Carbide is tougher in that regard. Or maybe if you used two melt dishes (or crucibles) one after the other. Let one cool slowly and use then the next. Followed by the previous one now that it has cooled down, and so on. This way there is no thermal shock between the large cold mass of silver and the hot ceramic. You could go all day that way.
Yeah it would be simpler to just BigstackD the whole thing quickly but unfortunately sreetips does not like to use the foundry he finds it very loud and scary for what it is meaning too much can go wrong and he is a simple man with a torch
You are welcome. It looks like the crucibles performed admirably. Being that the mass of that cup of silver is 10.5 times compared to a cup of coffee that’s a lot of weight for that heavily cycled vessel to haul around. Better for it to break there rather than going into the drink. Looking forward to seeing the shot become shards! Thank you Sir!👍👍🤟
Can’t wait to see your next video. I really like your style of making tools as you go, five stars! I know this is probably the wrong time for this question. I gotta ask, I watched your video when you had to fix your fume hood. Do you have anything special for your pipe going out of your squirrel cage?
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37 lbs of cement sliver. Came from let's say 35 lbs of steeling silver. If the typical mixing ratio with gold jewelry is 5:1, then Sreetips recovered about 7 lbs of 24 k gold. Not bad 👍
Sometimes Im glad to not have the means or space to do something like this, but I do enjoy watching you doing it safely and not hiding anything when it comes to failures.
I'm curious why not use something like a crucible and electric furnace or even gas powered? Seems like it would be a bit easier to manage than a melt dish
I had a good chuckle when I saw that big bucket of silver and little dirty melt dish you intended to use. A modest gas furnace and crucible would seem sensible at that point.
I’ve come to dislike processing the silver from my gold refining. And so I’ve let it build up. I need to get it moving or else I’ll run out of time, on earth.
@@sreetips Right on, this is only one bucket of several you are behind. Hire it done? A lot of risks anyway you look at this problem, doing it yourself pros and cons vs hire pros and cons, with and without supervision by you (time wasted and gets into trust issues if the time is not wasted). Hard calls either way you go. My regards if they help, disregard if they do not.
That's a wicked cool color coming off that new crucible after the yellow one broke. It's like in. stuff with the Blue Flame coming out of the torch and hit that crucible must be like a bunch of copper and stuff in it that burns off. It reminds me of that stuff you pour into a fire pit that makes the fire change colors. That's really cool to watch.
Bravo Mr Tips, bravo sir. I always knew you would keep your floor and bench sweeps but I liked the way you recover the metals in them. A very simple but efficient process.
Perhaps get a 55gal steel drum to replace the pot setup and even ditch the board. The height of a full drum of cold water should be enough to solidify it before it hits the bottom. You could then run 5+ lb crucibles out of the big propane furnace.
I can tell you don't have two golden retrievers like I do, because, instead of sweeping up a stray leaf with silver dust, you'd collect more shedded fur by weight than silver.
Yeah. You might consider a devil forge. But use a long and slender crucible which will fit down the vent in the top so you can do induction style. I think for these melts, you just had your oxygen level a bit too high on that oxy-ace torch.
@@sreetips but, but, it is not branded with your name and made by devil forge! I know, sponsors help but... having two always helps when one needs maintenance, unlikely unless there is a cracked Crucible accident and you need to continue.
With the price of gold being the way it is, I have been selling ALOT of silver paydirt lately. People that pan gold paydirt have begun looking at silver in a whole new light!
Hey Mr S why don't you add a kinda speedbump to the slide part of your apparatus like a couple of wires so the silver will stay small thanks love your show
Have you considered a stir bar or second pump creating a rotational flow inside the cooling water? It would help prevent the molten metal droplets from sticking together
I'm still impressed that you waste nothing, it's all a nice closed loop. We should all strive for that, and yeah a decent sized graphite crucible should work. Not sure if the small furnace can handle it, but give it a go. Pouring it will be a pain, it will be heavy, and you don't want it clumping together. Good luck, I'm interested to see what you come up with. Thanks again!
For what you are doing, there's a better way to do it. Get a cast-iron mortor and drill small holes in the bottom. Make a steel frame to hold it over the water board. Get it orange red hot and add the silver to it. It will melt and drip onto the water board to make shot.
"...probably 20 gallons in there..." And here I thought your neglect of improper crucible heating and overloading of said crucible was a feat worth of the Darwin Award and then this pops out of your mouth...🤣🤣🤣🤣
Your kind of set up (melting silver powder with blow torch) is for hobby only. When you are doing it on commercial scale, you must have induction melting arrangement. An added advantage of Induction melting is there wont be any invisible silver powder that gets blown away when you use blow torch.
I’m not a professional refiner at the commercial level. I’m just a hobby refiner. I have so much cement silver because I’ve grown to hate processing the silver. As a result, it builds up on me. Don’t get me wrong, I love silver. I just hate processing it. It takes a long time and it’s messy. The pure silver that I produce is for my retirement.
@@sreetips You have surpassed the hobby refiner level a long time ago. You may be a bit short of commercial level professional refiner, but you really need to either take this to a professional level or quit silver altogether, no hanging in the middle and unsupported at that. At this moment you are neither fish nor fowl nor good red meat.
I’m backed up, but I’m still chipping away at it. I’ll get it done, at my level, the hobby level. Someone once said if you turn your hobby into your work, then it becomes just that, work.
You have an electric kiln ive seen you use it a couple of times you just need a bigger grafite crucible and a pair of tongs. Which i will happily make for you in whatever size you wish
Extremely dangerous!! It’s good that nothing happened to you!! How were you able to come up with so many buckets of cement silver I wonder? This is the most unique channel I’ve ever watched! Hands-down!
I refine gold. I use sterling silver, that I buy at estate sales, to refine the scrap gold. I recover the silver from that, melt into shot, and run it through my silver cell. Silver is a by-product of my gold refining. The cell converts the impure silver (about 980 parts per thousand silver) to high purity four nines fine (9999 parts per ten thousand) pure elemental silver metal. So I’m refining the impure silver, into high purity silver, not creating silver out of thin air. When it’s full, I harvest the pure silver crystal, put it away and forget about it. Then I repeat the whole thing again.
@@sreetips I’ve NEVER… heard or witnessed your line-of-work being performed. It was like seeing a new earth with never seen before human beings! YOU are one of those beings!! Say hi to Paul and Bubba!!! LOL!!
@@sreetips Excellent really cool that you got him at an estate sale. They look very coffee. there. I was going to say they reminded me of my old Red Wing boots. Mine were like a red color. Man, I wore them things until the souls fell off.
I wonder if you could make a filter system when you first refined your metals instead of vacuuming the vapor collect it like moonshine because they’re still precious metals In the vapor
Oof, glad you didn't get hurt, that could have been bad! I wonder if they broke because you were dumping the cool powder into a hot crucible? That second one didn't that old, that sucks!
IIRC, melt dishes and crucibles _are_ considered consumables for work like this - the rapid thermal cycling when in use makes cracks form and spread increasingly quickly.
@@sreetipscould be the cooling from adding more cement silver to a still hot crucible? Might be better to do fewer cycles on a larger crucible, or do sequential melts in different crucibles.
@@positivelyacademical1519 yes, any metallic surface will allow condensation in a humid environment when the surface is powder the moisture will wick into it causing a slight dampness about 6 inches down. (Soil type sand experiments for desert living is the source for this research), metal in question is aluminum oxide, company was Norton in the 1950s -they caused some explosions while dry forming grinding wheels then a quick kiln fusing, this led to a drying table prior to today's method of wet forming the grinding wheels and shelf drying before kiln drying/fusing. In short, no matter how dry it was when you put it up it's going to be damp about 6 in down when you remove it.
I wonder if the crucible being very full of cement silver is insulating the bottom of the crucible from the heat that is expanding the sides and that’s what is leading to the crucible cracking. One broken crucible might be a coincidence but two makes me think there’s something going on here.
I would love to an update on if you manage to salvage the spilled silver and how you went about it. I'm sure it would be a major PITA to film it, so maybe a community post or story time during your next refining?
I think it's time to go BigstackD on that cement silver. Break out the furnace and the what is it #8 crucible? 😅
Cardboard under crucible helps prevent sticking to firebrick!
Bigstack is how I found sreetips so I love when I see people mention him. No surprise there's a lot of overlap in their fanbases, even if their methods and materials aren't the same.
@@NioneAlmie BigstackD would love to have all of Sreetips' copper waste!
I want to start a gofundme to get those 2 together haha
I came to write exactly that!
Edit: I think that's the "big furnace" Sreetips is referring to around the 13m mark..
That cement, silver 5 gallon bucket reminds me of that one time I seen on RUclips where a armed cash vehicle was parked in New York with the back open and a guy just passed by picked up a 5 gallon bucket, which was full of gold powder. Now that’s a big come up, never found the guy
I think I remember that.
I love that you show all of your processes. It would be easy to just show the successes and none of the set backs but you always seem to show where things go wrong and I love that. Thank you.
Thank you, very refreshing to hear a positive comment.
@@sreetips You are most welcome. Thank you again for what you do!
Honestly sreetips, it’s time for you to go induction furnace. I bought a “kit” one on eBay a couple years ago that’s 48-60v and 50 amps. Cost me about $120 including the cooling radiator, water pump, fan, coil, driver, and crucible.
The power supply was the potential expensive part, but being a nerd I opted for a used server power supply that runs on 220v and puts out 80a constant current.
I drilled a 1/8” hole in the small crucible and have it sitting over a bucket of water. I’ll start with throwing a piece of paper on the bottom of the crucible to catch the cement silver, and load it up with about 100g of cement silver. Once I turn it on, it takes less that 3 minutes to come fully up to temp, and once I get a drip of silver coming from the bottom, I just constantly spoon feed cement silver into it as it melts and drips into the catch pan.
You could automate this by installing a small screw feed into the bottom of a bucket full of cement silver, and have it auger/feed the silver at a set speed automatically while dripping into a bucket underneath it. Turn it on, and work on something else as your silver works for you!
Another great idea, how do you arrange the coils for this please?
Very nice! Love how well u handled busted crucible i didnt handle it as well win my crucible broke with 100g of gold! It was bad day but i eventually got most of it back still missing around 2g tho
I’ve never had that happen. Both were used. They performed well in their first use.
The cells hunger and must be fed.
The crucibles cracking was a bummer. I leave a gap between the fire bricks wider than half the crucible and position a weeding torch to engulf the entire bottom in flame. It reduces the thermal energy required from the top and keeps temperatures more even from inside versus outside the dish. All that silver represents a lot of refined gold, very impressive work!
Great idea! The physical strain on a melt dish from the mass of silver (its weight) when picked up repeatedly with a gooseneck pliers might contribute to the cracks as well as the temperature differential between top and bottom so additionally use your spring loaded Crucible holder.
Things always seem to happen just as you are about to pour. My own furnace mishap a while back also was at that point. Like the universe is purposefully picking the most dangerous few seconds for stuff to happen XD. Glad to know you're OK and the metal didn't cause injuries! Always use PPE, folks.
VEVOR makes a single phase induction smelter with a 3kg crucible for under $200. will make that cement go quick. and it's safer than blowing fire onto dust type materials.
In my mind a single run of the big propane furnace would be way less risky than repeated heat cycles until failure in little crucibles.
You just swept the table, and there is already metal on the table. Next to the I on the right hand side.
I think if I had this much silver to process, I'd go pour a nice slab of concrete in the back yard and build a forge. Then go buy an antique cast iron kettle and make it so I could pour the entire batch of molten silver right into a bucket of watet to create the shot. Run the thing on wood and save money by not using acetylene to melt the silver.
Allways a pleasure to see your videos.
This time, I dont know how much silver recovered with a spoon of ash, but you lost a lot with that craked cricible, in my opinion...
You must have a strong hart.
Not really lost just more headache to recover
Maybe get out the furnace and pour a couple dozen bars instead of making the shot and having to deal with the mess/cleanup that goes along with it? Might be more efficient to grab a bar or two from the stack, lift the anode up and place them right under the anode whenever its needed? I did this in mine and it works quite well given the anode is the same shape as the feeding silver (blank round) and it fits nicely in the :)
I used to pour bars when I first started.
@@sreetips this is not a bad idea, the slimes will be displaced better (to the sides of the anode basket by the large mass), the electrolytic erosion still works. Shot might be marginally better for surface area of course but this is very good for your method of using small melt dishes and easier on the wrist action than a 5 lb Crucible at the end of a 4 1/2 ft holder. Give it a try? A round rimmed bottom mold would be best but any shape to start the test is better.
Thanks for another great video Sreetips😃 Sad that the crucibles broke, lucky you didn't get hurt 🙏🏻. We can call it "shorter interruptions in production due to replacement of consumables😂".
/Dennis
put the heat source shooting straight down in the center, dont try to rush it with the handheld torch. i think it causes the crucible lattice to warp and fracture when one part gets hotter or cooler as you swirl the mixture
I was thinking the same thing.
Those poor little ceramic crucibles are great for how cheap they are but they definitely don’t hold up very well over prolonged use. Time for the big boy
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I left the leaf because I knew it would draw attention.
@ I figured. It reminded me of my style and something that I would have done as well. Great Content ! And Thank for bringing it to us. 🙏🏻
@5:00 I still think that if you poured from a bit more height the liquid metal would form more droplets so it wouldn't get stuck together so much.
Thermal shock is annoying. Silicon Carbide is tougher in that regard. Or maybe if you used two melt dishes (or crucibles) one after the other. Let one cool slowly and use then the next. Followed by the previous one now that it has cooled down, and so on. This way there is no thermal shock between the large cold mass of silver and the hot ceramic. You could go all day that way.
Well that should keep the beast fed for a few days sir. thank you for sharing this enjoyable video with us six stars sir
Yeah it would be simpler to just BigstackD the whole thing quickly but unfortunately sreetips does not like to use the foundry he finds it very loud and scary for what it is meaning too much can go wrong and he is a simple man with a torch
You are welcome. It looks like the crucibles performed admirably. Being that the mass of that cup of silver is 10.5 times compared to a cup of coffee that’s a lot of weight for that heavily cycled vessel to haul around. Better for it to break there rather than going into the drink. Looking forward to seeing the shot become shards! Thank you Sir!👍👍🤟
Recovering precious metals from melt dishes and waste solutions might make for a worth while video.
Wow mr Sreetips this is awesome what you are doing with the silver proces great ✨️👍🏆and i learn from you 😂🎉greetings from the Netherlands 🇳🇱🇺🇲
Thank you Netherlands.
We should start the Dutch sreetips fan club ;)
Can’t wait to see your next video. I really like your style of making tools as you go, five stars! I know this is probably the wrong time for this question. I gotta ask, I watched your video when you had to fix your fume hood. Do you have anything special for your pipe going out of your squirrel cage?
Six inch PVC pipe
I hope the watch survived. Great video as always. Great work with the Timelapse.
having a giant bucket of silver powder to melt is a nice problem to have.
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37 lbs of cement sliver. Came from let's say 35 lbs of steeling silver. If the typical mixing ratio with gold jewelry is 5:1, then Sreetips recovered about 7 lbs of 24 k gold. Not bad 👍
I’ve always wondered what you do with your own sweeps… and now I know 😎 thanks for the vid
Sometimes Im glad to not have the means or space to do something like this, but I do enjoy watching you doing it safely and not hiding anything when it comes to failures.
I'm curious why not use something like a crucible and electric furnace or even gas powered? Seems like it would be a bit easier to manage than a melt dish
hmm, maybe he hasn't worked with this much before 🤔
Probably because that takes hours to heat, and it's BORING!
USE FIRE!!! FIRE is GOOD!!
I could be mistaken, but I believe he has used a gas furnace a time or two, but is more comfortable this way.
Go with what you know…
He has a gas furnace but is uneasy using it
I had a good chuckle when I saw that big bucket of silver and little dirty melt dish you intended to use. A modest gas furnace and crucible would seem sensible at that point.
I’ve come to dislike processing the silver from my gold refining. And so I’ve let it build up. I need to get it moving or else I’ll run out of time, on earth.
@@sreetips Right on, this is only one bucket of several you are behind. Hire it done? A lot of risks anyway you look at this problem, doing it yourself pros and cons vs hire pros and cons, with and without supervision by you (time wasted and gets into trust issues if the time is not wasted). Hard calls either way you go. My regards if they help, disregard if they do not.
That's a wicked cool color coming off that new crucible after the yellow one broke. It's like in. stuff with the Blue Flame coming out of the torch and hit that crucible must be like a bunch of copper and stuff in it that burns off. It reminds me of that stuff you pour into a fire pit that makes the fire change colors. That's really cool to watch.
Yup, metalic salts from drift wood work the same way. With a good draft up the chimney no worry, else use PPE for your lungs.
That crucible break created beautiful art
That crucible failure sure made a mess. A nice amount of silver shot that should keep your beast silvercell fed for awhile. 👍🏻
Bravo Mr Tips, bravo sir. I always knew you would keep your floor and bench sweeps but I liked the way you recover the metals in them. A very simple but efficient process.
this is probably the only lab/shop that you clean meticulously and don't throw away or miss any dust !
Perhaps get a 55gal steel drum to replace the pot setup and even ditch the board. The height of a full drum of cold water should be enough to solidify it before it hits the bottom. You could then run 5+ lb crucibles out of the big propane furnace.
That shoe shine is on point brother!
Redwing high top leather boots
I can tell you don't have two golden retrievers like I do, because, instead of sweeping up a stray leaf with silver dust, you'd collect more shedded fur by weight than silver.
If you wash the cement silver before you melt it, it would be purer, and you'd have less gunk forming in the silver cell.
It's always being super soothing to watch the melting process! Thanks for sharing it Sir! 👊😎
Great video nice silver shot can't to see the start up of the silver cell it always beautiful to see silver crystal thanks for sharing sreetips
Love the channel! Just out of curiosity, could you use cement silver to inquart your gold for refining?
Not recommended, PGMs follow the silver and build up, undesirable in the silver cell.
Yeah i just have buckets of precious metals laying around doesn't everyone
Me too!
Have you ever tried running the cement silver directly in the silver cell? It might be worth… a shot?
It clogs the filter
Love all your videos sir thank you for making them🎉
Graphite has much better thermal shock resistance, which probably explains why your crucibles were breaking
I won't say the number, I'm sure others can do the maths, but today's spot value on that amount of silver is impressive.
I am officially jealous 😁❤️
theres just something artistic about the sreetips name having silver splatter around it😊😊😊
Yeah. You might consider a devil forge. But use a long and slender crucible which will fit down the vent in the top so you can do induction style. I think for these melts, you just had your oxygen level a bit too high on that oxy-ace torch.
Yeah, I think the big furnace might be the go. Looking forward to the next vid.
We need to get this man a devil forge
I have a big furnace.
@@sreetips but, but, it is not branded with your name and made by devil forge! I know, sponsors help but... having two always helps when one needs maintenance, unlikely unless there is a cracked Crucible accident and you need to continue.
How quickly will your silver cells eat through that almost 9kg of impure silver shot and what do you think the yield will be?
Should take about two weeks. For every kilo of 98% impure shot I add, I should harvest about 980 grams of high purity silver.
Bummer on the melt dishes! Love watching your videos! Thank you very much for all the teaching you've done
With the price of gold being the way it is, I have been selling ALOT of silver paydirt lately. People that pan gold paydirt have begun looking at silver in a whole new light!
I'd PM you, but I can't, just wondering if that's asbestos sheet your brushing the metal off? It's nasty stuff if not handled carefully.
No, that’s backer board from Home Depot.
@sreetips phew
Wow! Really excited to see the continuation of this video!
Hey Mr S why don't you add a kinda speedbump to the slide part of your apparatus like a couple of wires so the silver will stay small thanks love your show
Have you considered a stir bar or second pump creating a rotational flow inside the cooling water? It would help prevent the molten metal droplets from sticking together
Just curious. But why did you leave the leave in there?
Too lazy to pull it out. It won’t hurt anything.
@@sreetips😂
I'm still impressed that you waste nothing, it's all a nice closed loop. We should all strive for that, and yeah a decent sized graphite crucible should work. Not sure if the small furnace can handle it, but give it a go. Pouring it will be a pain, it will be heavy, and you don't want it clumping together. Good luck, I'm interested to see what you come up with. Thanks again!
I love the silver sells, I would like to c one of the silver trees up up close I bet they r amazing.
I'm glad it wasn't a gold melt! Great video, as always.
For what you are doing, there's a better way to do it. Get a cast-iron mortor and drill small holes in the bottom. Make a steel frame to hold it over the water board. Get it orange red hot and add the silver to it. It will melt and drip onto the water board to make shot.
"...probably 20 gallons in there..." And here I thought your neglect of improper crucible heating and overloading of said crucible was a feat worth of the Darwin Award and then this pops out of your mouth...🤣🤣🤣🤣
He already disqualified himself for the Darwin Award (and she is good looking).
who else never knew what the M buttons on a calculator was for lol i always avoided them thinking it was to do with E equals mc squared lolol
Your kind of set up (melting silver powder with blow torch) is for hobby only. When you are doing it on commercial scale, you must have induction melting arrangement. An added advantage of Induction melting is there wont be any invisible silver powder that gets blown away when you use blow torch.
I’m not a professional refiner at the commercial level. I’m just a hobby refiner. I have so much cement silver because I’ve grown to hate processing the silver. As a result, it builds up on me. Don’t get me wrong, I love silver. I just hate processing it. It takes a long time and it’s messy. The pure silver that I produce is for my retirement.
@@sreetips You have surpassed the hobby refiner level a long time ago. You may be a bit short of commercial level professional refiner, but you really need to either take this to a professional level or quit silver altogether, no hanging in the middle and unsupported at that. At this moment you are neither fish nor fowl nor good red meat.
I’m backed up, but I’m still chipping away at it. I’ll get it done, at my level, the hobby level. Someone once said if you turn your hobby into your work, then it becomes just that, work.
@@sreetips "if you turn your hobby into your work, then it becomes just that, work."
That is only too true
Be careful with that molten metal.
When I cleaned out the silver cell, I recovered 32 oz from the solution.
37 lbs of cement silver, I hope you don't have any other plans for the day.
That's why he should be using his big furnace. With a 10kg crucible, he could have it all melted within an hour.
@@slimpickins09er87 I was wondering why you were working inside. This is an outdoor job.
Other plans usually include going to eat with Mrs S and maybe hitting a flea market on the way...
But we knew that..
Two failing crucibles is unreal.
One is unreal, I’ve never had it happen like that in fourteen years of melting metals.
@@sreetips And now you understand why I believe in Murphy.
Damn Johnny Tremain
You have an electric kiln ive seen you use it a couple of times you just need a bigger grafite crucible and a pair of tongs. Which i will happily make for you in whatever size you wish
Big furnace would definitely be quicker and more efficient
Extremely dangerous!! It’s good that nothing happened to you!! How were you able to come up with so many buckets of cement silver I wonder?
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I refine gold. I use sterling silver, that I buy at estate sales, to refine the scrap gold. I recover the silver from that, melt into shot, and run it through my silver cell. Silver is a by-product of my gold refining. The cell converts the impure silver (about 980 parts per thousand silver) to high purity four nines fine (9999 parts per ten thousand) pure elemental silver metal. So I’m refining the impure silver, into high purity silver, not creating silver out of thin air. When it’s full, I harvest the pure silver crystal, put it away and forget about it. Then I repeat the whole thing again.
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I’ll do it! Thank you
Am I the only one that fell out of the chair when the crucible broke? I thought it exploded at first.
I didn't even notice what had happened until he said so 😅
LoL yes, since you're melting metal you should be aware of safe practices. In my shop, it's number four on my list of priorities.
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why not use a Double Crucible. That may prevent splattering..
As I can recall, sreetips had an electrical oven with a graphite crucible... Why not use that one to process this amount?
Too slow
That's brute thermal cracking ! You should add a second layer of wool !
Hey, I like your shoes what kind are those they look comfy.
Redwing high top boots. Got them for ten bucks at an estate sale. Fit me perfect.
@@sreetips Excellent really cool that you got him at an estate sale. They look very coffee. there. I was going to say they reminded me of my old Red Wing boots. Mine were like a red color. Man, I wore them things until the souls fell off.
@@Ellis157 and did not look for a cobbler to resole them?
You are special kind of person Sreetips.
Thank you
I wonder if you could make a filter system when you first refined your metals instead of vacuuming the vapor collect it like moonshine because they’re still precious metals In the vapor
So are you going to show us how to recycle crucibles for precious models? Please and thank you 👍
Oof, glad you didn't get hurt, that could have been bad! I wonder if they broke because you were dumping the cool powder into a hot crucible? That second one didn't that old, that sucks!
Have you ever had to take the sink drain apart to retrieve any dropped gold or silver?
No
do the melt dishes fail like that purely because used too many times or just unlucky, has a new dish ever done that?
It’s very rare. Having two fail is extremely rare. I think it’s because they were both used many times in the past.
IIRC, melt dishes and crucibles _are_ considered consumables for work like this - the rapid thermal cycling when in use makes cracks form and spread increasingly quickly.
@@sreetipscould be the cooling from adding more cement silver to a still hot crucible? Might be better to do fewer cycles on a larger crucible, or do sequential melts in different crucibles.
@@positivelyacademical1519 yes, any metallic surface will allow condensation in a humid environment when the surface is powder the moisture will wick into it causing a slight dampness about 6 inches down. (Soil type sand experiments for desert living is the source for this research), metal in question is aluminum oxide, company was Norton in the 1950s -they caused some explosions while dry forming grinding wheels then a quick kiln fusing, this led to a drying table prior to today's method of wet forming the grinding wheels and shelf drying before kiln drying/fusing.
In short, no matter how dry it was when you put it up it's going to be damp about 6 in down when you remove it.
Would an induction heater work better for this process? would be less harsh on the crucibles I'd think.
Possibly
The big furnace is the way to go with that much cement silver.
I wonder if the crucible being very full of cement silver is insulating the bottom of the crucible from the heat that is expanding the sides and that’s what is leading to the crucible cracking. One broken crucible might be a coincidence but two makes me think there’s something going on here.
They were both used
Just so I understand, the crucibles are cracking because of the cycling between heating and cooling?
I’m not sure why
lol, I was just eyeing a bigstackD vid that popped up in my recommended list. Headed there next.
I would love to an update on if you manage to salvage the spilled silver and how you went about it. I'm sure it would be a major PITA to film it, so maybe a community post or story time during your next refining?
If I did the math right....that bucket has about $17,000 in it. NICE!!
That is when you buy a furnace..... such tremendous labour
I have a furnace
Invest in a Devil Forge. Will help speed up the process, and the crucible will not crack.
I have a furnace
@@sreetips but, but, well you've seen the other comment I made.
As a matter of curiosity did you ever consider using a Devils Forge oven and a 8Kg crucible?
I have a large furnace. Just don’t like to use it. Sounds like a jet engine, it’s HOT and scary.