This is otherworldly beautiful- equal parts haunting, heartbreaking, ominous, and serene. Top notch playing and expert recording. I don’t think this version has been matched. Just extraordinary.
I don't think I've ever heard a performance to match this. I'm left speechless. For those who are interested, Bernstein and the NYO have a recording of Francesca on here and that's pretty scary too! Bravo Rozhdestvensky. Bravissimo Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky!!
ComposerInUK And a little 'bravo Mravinsky' I think. Don't forget that Yevgeny M. moulded this orchestra; Rozhdestvensky, although an absolutely terrific conductor, is mostly 'minding the shop' here. Notice that this sounds very Mravinskyan, and his Rozh's recordings of this piece with other orchestras are very different.
+Bom Cabedal, by the way, there're 3 recordings of this piece made by Rozhdestvensky, 2 of them are made with this orchestra. All of these recordings are different and of the best quality. And also by the way, the same orchestra with Mravinsky plays wrong notes in bar 9. So who is "minding the shop" here?
Maria Kurochkina The point is not who makes mistakes (everyone does at times, I guess), but that the Leningrad Phil was pretty much Mravinsky's personal property for nigh forty years. He was the one who formed the orchestra's sound, and any other conductor could not hope to have the same influence.
+Bom Cabedal there's always only one main conductor and other come for some concerts or are assistants, it's always so. At this very time Rozdestvensky was the main conductor of another great Russian orchestra) Invited conductor isn't supposed to make another orchestra of these people or to have the same influence as a chief, he or she's supposed to make something fresh and new, that's why no orchestra plays only with it's chief conductor. At the same time Mravinsky had performances with other orchestras, and there he hadn't such influence as in his orchestra.
I don't think Mravinsky ever conducted a different orchestra (or if he did, it was VERY rare). I'm not denying the mechanisms that you mention, I'm just saying that the situation with the Leningrad Phil was much more extreme than usual, because Mravinsky's influence went so much further than what is (and was) common.
THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE PERFORMANCE OF THIS TONE POEM !!!!! Rozdevinski is marvellous in redering the dense but suggestive orchestration of this "Francesca da Rimini", with an art of the articulation, of details and of large plans at the same time.
Spannende live Aufführung dieses romantischen Tongedichts mit dramatischen Töne aller Instrumente. Der geniale Maestro dirigiert das weltklassige Orchester im relativ schnellen Tempo mit völlig effektiver Dynamik. Einfach wunderbar!
Es la más intensa y rabiosa lectura para la fantasía de Tchaikovsky inspirada en Dante. El registro de Bernstein con Viena muestra rasgos de cierta semejanza, pero el repaso de Rozhdestvensky se establece como insuperable.
10 лет назад+3
*I NEED THE HELP OF FRANCESCA DA RIMINI FANS:* There used to be a *series of 3 videos* of Tchaikovsky's _Francesca da Rimini_ by youtuber Callum Hackett. Those were the *best videos on the subject*, because they had these 3 lines of step by step annotation boxes throughout. The top box provided excerpts from Tchaikovsky's own program for the music; the middle one showed quoted verses from Dante's _Divine Comedy_; the lower one gave insights about Melody and Instrumentation. In the description was detailed the source of those insights. I _think_ that it was something like "Understanding the Great Masters" or "Classical Music Step by Step", and it might have been something published by Deutsche Grammophon, but that's all I can remember. I'm lucky enough for remembering the channel's name. The problem is that *those videos have been deleted*, so as Callum Hackett's channel and Google+ profile (I checked), and it's a real shame. I wanted to ask all of you fans of this piece if you ever saw those videos, and if you can point me out the source of those annotations. The thumbnail and video image was the oil portrait of Tchaikovsky by Kuznetsov. Thanks in advance for any help, Sérgio SC
На 6:31 допущен откровенный кикс. Скорость в финале кажется избыточный, унося с собой трагичность. В целом в исполнении Мравинского 1984 года звук полнее и меньше отчетливого звучания отдельных инструментов
What. An. Ending. How did the orchestra survive the hell? Ah, yes, this is the trick from Schumann’s Second sonata: ‘so rasch wie möglich’ - ‘schneller’ - ‘noch schneller’.
@@cismoll_ You can’t tease me like that... mentioning an obscure recording that can be found neither in English and Russian catalogues... Any link, any LP number... please!
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The Maestro has managed to wring out some exemplary playing and the recording engineer has done this more than justice.
This is otherworldly beautiful- equal parts haunting, heartbreaking, ominous, and serene. Top notch playing and expert recording. I don’t think this version has been matched. Just extraordinary.
quite magnificent from first to last. Thanks Gennadi and thanks for posting.
I don't think I've ever heard a performance to match this. I'm left speechless. For those who are interested, Bernstein and the NYO have a recording of Francesca on here and that's pretty scary too! Bravo Rozhdestvensky. Bravissimo Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky!!
ComposerInUK And a little 'bravo Mravinsky' I think. Don't forget that Yevgeny M. moulded this orchestra; Rozhdestvensky, although an absolutely terrific conductor, is mostly 'minding the shop' here. Notice that this sounds very Mravinskyan, and his Rozh's recordings of this piece with other orchestras are very different.
+Bom Cabedal, by the way, there're 3 recordings of this piece made by Rozhdestvensky, 2 of them are made with this orchestra. All of these recordings are different and of the best quality. And also by the way, the same orchestra with Mravinsky plays wrong notes in bar 9. So who is "minding the shop" here?
Maria Kurochkina The point is not who makes mistakes (everyone does at times, I guess), but that the Leningrad Phil was pretty much Mravinsky's personal property for nigh forty years. He was the one who formed the orchestra's sound, and any other conductor could not hope to have the same influence.
+Bom Cabedal there's always only one main conductor and other come for some concerts or are assistants, it's always so. At this very time Rozdestvensky was the main conductor of another great Russian orchestra)
Invited conductor isn't supposed to make another orchestra of these people or to have the same influence as a chief, he or she's supposed to make something fresh and new, that's why no orchestra plays only with it's chief conductor. At the same time Mravinsky had performances with other orchestras, and there he hadn't such influence as in his orchestra.
I don't think Mravinsky ever conducted a different orchestra (or if he did, it was VERY rare). I'm not denying the mechanisms that you mention, I'm just saying that the situation with the Leningrad Phil was much more extreme than usual, because Mravinsky's influence went so much further than what is (and was) common.
He was only 29 at the time of the performance...!!! Wow!!!
Gennadi Rozhdestvensky, della più alta linea di direttori d'orchestra russi
THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE PERFORMANCE OF THIS TONE POEM !!!!! Rozdevinski is marvellous in redering the dense but suggestive orchestration of this "Francesca da Rimini", with an art of the articulation, of details and of large plans at the same time.
Spannende live Aufführung dieses romantischen Tongedichts mit dramatischen Töne aller Instrumente. Der geniale Maestro dirigiert das weltklassige Orchester im relativ schnellen Tempo mit völlig effektiver Dynamik. Einfach wunderbar!
Es la más intensa y rabiosa lectura para la fantasía de Tchaikovsky inspirada en Dante. El registro de Bernstein con Viena muestra rasgos de cierta semejanza, pero el repaso de Rozhdestvensky se establece como insuperable.
*I NEED THE HELP OF FRANCESCA DA RIMINI FANS:*
There used to be a *series of 3 videos* of Tchaikovsky's _Francesca da Rimini_ by youtuber Callum Hackett. Those were the *best videos on the subject*, because they had these 3 lines of step by step annotation boxes throughout. The top box provided excerpts from Tchaikovsky's own program for the music; the middle one showed quoted verses from Dante's _Divine Comedy_; the lower one gave insights about Melody and Instrumentation. In the description was detailed the source of those insights. I _think_ that it was something like "Understanding the Great Masters" or "Classical Music Step by Step", and it might have been something published by Deutsche Grammophon, but that's all I can remember. I'm lucky enough for remembering the channel's name. The problem is that *those videos have been deleted*, so as Callum Hackett's channel and Google+ profile (I checked), and it's a real shame. I wanted to ask all of you fans of this piece if you ever saw those videos, and if you can point me out the source of those annotations. The thumbnail and video image was the oil portrait of Tchaikovsky by Kuznetsov.
Thanks in advance for any help,
Sérgio SC
if you ever find it, tell us!
It has been over a year and I still haven't made any discovery. Sorry!
驚くべきライブ演奏（1960年、ソ連）。特に、ラストの加速は、世界一、ではないか。
金管楽器の分厚い突き刺さるような、サウンドが、ダンテの神曲の地獄篇、を、表現出来ている。
Pjotr Iljics Csajkovszkij:Francesca da Rimini Op.32
Leningrádi (Szentpétervári) Filharmonikus Zenekar
Vezényel:Gennagyij Rozsgyesztvenszkij
На 6:31 допущен откровенный кикс. Скорость в финале кажется избыточный, унося с собой трагичность. В целом в исполнении Мравинского 1984 года звук полнее и меньше отчетливого звучания отдельных инструментов
What. An. Ending. How did the orchestra survive the hell?
Ah, yes, this is the trick from Schumann’s Second sonata: ‘so rasch wie möglich’ - ‘schneller’ - ‘noch schneller’.
There is another recording with USSR Radio Orchestra from 1966, where he totally destroys the orchestra at the ending.
@@cismoll_ You can’t tease me like that... mentioning an obscure recording that can be found neither in English and Russian catalogues... Any link, any LP number... please!
@@f1f1s here it is: ruclips.net/video/oOAObRZYoxA/видео.html
Браво! Великолепно! Лучшее исполнение!
Bravo!
genial
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Неплохо, только уж больно у Геннадия Николаевича ад "ядрёный" получился... ;)
А ад и не должен быть раем.
By the way -he's here pretty young--29y.o--that why!