DakarNick That’s pretty cool! I normally see the P42DC’s in my area when I go to watch trains. In the mornings and evenings, If I arrive at the crossing at the right time and set up my camera before the train gets there, I can see the Amtrak Lakeshore Limited or CSX mixed freights.
@@butthurt8 we have suffered with cheap American imports for years here. And u call these too European. You do know there is a world outside America right
Wander what the p42s thank staring down the motors that are going to replace them that's ok payback from the time they kicked out the beutifuill EMD f40s.
They're moving the four Chargers to the test facility in Pueblo. The Chief usually runs with 2 P42DCs, they added a third to account for the weight of the Chargers (which were not pulling). At Denver, they cut the lead P42DC and the four Chargers.
Most of America is diesel electric. The diesel engine powers a generator that provides power for the traction motors. The northeast and some other areas are electrified.
Damn. Those GEs are so ugly. So glad Chargers will soon be on line. Would have been so wicked Kool to see someone build PAs and E8 or E9s into AC Tier 4 power locomotives. Bring back some Class to passenger trains. 🇺🇸🇺🇸👍
Great catch! When they set the Chargers over to track 5, did they have to go all the way up the passenger lead to clear the interlocking and wait for a signal or did they just have to clear the switch for tracks 4 and 5?
Hey. I was one of the conductors on that train checking the Siemens out for the hot box. Yeah, we have to pull out of the interlocking and get a restricting back in but the outbound crew cut them off at DEN.
Leonardo Viramontes - The voice prompts on those automated detectors are pre-programmed; that one likely belongs to (and is maintained by) Union Pacific. The detector has no way of knowing whose motive power is pulling the train, nor does it need to care - it’s sole duty is detecting and reporting defects. Which it did. :)
William Squires oh well at least for Metrolink. The defected detector said “ Metrolink detector mile post. 7.8 track number 2. Six nine miles per hour no defects no defects”. That’s what it said.
Leonardo Viramontes The detector only says the railroad name of the track its on. Therefore, it only says the name of the railroad that owns the tracks. Reason why a Metrolink detector starts with “Metrolink” is because the tracks are owned by Metrolink. In the video, the detector started with “UP” because UP owns the tracks.
They are kinda spooky with the engine light on. First time I saw one was at midnight, saw it pull up, but couldnt see what it was. It was obviously different due to the headlights being way brighter and a different setup. I knew it was different but couldnt put my finger on it. Then after i dropped off the crew I was driving, I started to drive off and the train pulled across the crossing behind me. I saw the glowing light in the back and thought it looked kinda spooky.
@@amtrak_121 I’m sorry, but sadly I can’t help but to say that the F125 is rather unattractive in my opinion. It’s too bulky and it feels like another slow chugger down the line. I like the old ones myself but Chargers are very elegant and look and feel aerodynamic.
at least 4 of the 7 were dead in train, the new Siemens locomotives were being transported to Pueblo for testing so weren't operating for this move. The first two Amtrak engines were probably propelling the train, and the last was probably supplying HEP to the rest of the consist assuming they didn't pass HEP from the front 2 engines through the DIT units.
Yeah thank the fed. Replacing perfectly good P42 and F59s that have worked for DECADES with a brand new "eco-friendly" cheap looking piece of shit that locks its brakes automatically for no reason on the move. Why would you change something that already works???
The P40's/P42's haven't been working right for quite a while. If you've actually been paying attention to what was happening, the failure rates for the F59's and the Genesis are through the roof. In 2015 alone, I was delayed at least 4 times a month by a failed locomotive and I don't remember how many rescues I've seen on the #5 since 2017. Stuck brakes are a common problem on all engines from time to time, so it's nothing out of the ordinary.
Not really, would you have said that about the engines the Genesis replaced? There are a number of safety factors to consider AND like it or not, these engines are Tier IV emissions compliant which is very difficult to obtain with 4400hp and efficient operation, which these perform well. Things evolve, that’s like you saying prop airliners work perfectly fine on an 11 hour trip from DC to LA lol, why do we need jets rhat can do it in 6?!
Very cool! I’m an engineer at the factory these came from. Nice to see people interesting our trains 🚂
COOL! can u tell us what’s up with the venture car hold up?
Great vid. Very well filmed. Loved the radio chatter. Thanks for sharing.
1:19 203 has been upgraded and repainted as the operation lifesaver unit
Taking this configuration over the Sierras must have been epic...the big ten descending into Denver looked fantastic.
Awesome catch! I was actually on that train!
Rockies Railfan Me too, I was the Assistant Conductor.
DakarNick That’s pretty cool! I normally see the P42DC’s in my area when I go to watch trains. In the mornings and evenings, If I arrive at the crossing at the right time and set up my camera before the train gets there, I can see the Amtrak Lakeshore Limited or CSX mixed freights.
@@echucker where do you catch the LSL?
We see it come through Northeast Ohio.
Shoot. I remember that day. I was running Denver Union Station wondering where the hell they were.
Amazing video! I really enjoyed it! Really crisp scanner feed too.
That day was my birthday and I had dinner at that station just an hour before that train arrived. I wish I stayed a little longer to see that.
I thought it was legal to "hotbox" in Denver now.
When I was coming home, we had to be stopped because we had to wait for a up freight in Calfornia and that made our train 2 hrs late on train #5
Amtrak Midwest SC-44 Chargers: #4616 which was wrecked a few years ago, #4617, #4614, & #4615 sandwiched by 3 P42DCs #159, #176, & #203.
BEAUTIFUL VIDEO
I love those NEW Siemens Chargers.
Keith Klingensmith not me. It’s buttugly and very Europe train. This isn’t Europe country.
butthurt8 what?
Lol, because they lock brakes?
@@butthurt8 we have suffered with cheap American imports for years here. And u call these too European. You do know there is a world outside America right
@@grah84mck Don't mind him, his name says it all.
Nice video and great catch. That train was close to five hours late when I saw it in Iowa.
A. Train it was four hours late when it passed by riverside
I remember riding the California Zephyr, luckily I wasn't on that train
Cool! I saw one of those chargers at union station in Kansas City, MO in 2018.
I saw them on the southwest chief and when I did I screamed like a madman
*foamer*
Love your video, I have a HO Scale Amtrak Midwest Charger it's beautiful
So, are the chargers only here to be tested in Pueblo or are they coming over to take over ski train service once they are done?
They are just going to be tested at Pueblo, orders that I know of have been made for Amtrak cascades service and Illinois DOT.
Oh, so the ones that I saw were painted in the Illinois DOT livery and not Amtrak right?
Awesome catch of these new Chargers! Were they (the Chargers) under power or DIT?
DIT
@@RailBuffs ???
@@LegoWormNoah101 dead in tow…ie not on
Awesome video
Enough power for that train? :)
What is that open area on the side of each of these new units for? Can I assume they are for cooling and maintenance.
Well done! Thank you!
Wander what the p42s thank staring down the motors that are going to replace them that's ok payback from the time they kicked out the beutifuill EMD f40s.
yea, testing testing ..
Why so many engines?
They're moving the four Chargers to the test facility in Pueblo. The Chief usually runs with 2 P42DCs, they added a third to account for the weight of the Chargers (which were not pulling). At Denver, they cut the lead P42DC and the four Chargers.
Greg Manning this is the zephyr.
Is that an extra engine of some sort being started or something with a motor at 10:59?
That's the air compressor starting up. It's shaft driven by a big electric motor, so yes it kind of is an extra engine in a sense.
I love that sound
where do the train get the power from?bi don't see any electric lines.
Most of America is diesel electric. The diesel engine powers a generator that provides power for the traction motors. The northeast and some other areas are electrified.
Nice catch
What number was the first P42?
159
Thx
Prettylocomotives.and.beautiful.video
Wonderful.video
Amtrak took the ACS-64s thru there to the NEC
I imagine the P42s training the Chargers to get ready to take over lol the chargers Don't even look bad at all :^
Damn. Those GEs are so ugly. So glad Chargers will soon be on line. Would have been so wicked Kool to see someone build PAs and E8 or E9s into AC Tier 4 power locomotives. Bring back some Class to passenger trains. 🇺🇸🇺🇸👍
really beautiful train and surroundings :) has added a like and a subscribe
Great catch! When they set the Chargers over to track 5, did they have to go all the way up the passenger lead to clear the interlocking and wait for a signal or did they just have to clear the switch for tracks 4 and 5?
They just have to go out far enough to clear the other signal though many times they pull all the way past the passenger for good measure.
Hey. I was one of the conductors on that train checking the Siemens out for the hot box. Yeah, we have to pull out of the interlocking and get a restricting back in but the outbound crew cut them off at DEN.
The defected detecter incorrectly said Union Pacific detecter and it forgot to say Amtrak
Leonardo Viramontes - The voice prompts on those automated detectors are pre-programmed; that one likely belongs to (and is maintained by) Union Pacific. The detector has no way of knowing whose motive power is pulling the train, nor does it need to care - it’s sole duty is detecting and reporting defects. Which it did. :)
William Squires oh well at least for Metrolink. The defected detector said “ Metrolink detector mile post. 7.8 track number 2. Six nine miles per hour no defects no defects”. That’s what it said.
UP detector for UP tracks.
Leonardo Viramontes The detector only says the railroad name of the track its on. Therefore, it only says the name of the railroad that owns the tracks. Reason why a Metrolink detector starts with “Metrolink” is because the tracks are owned by Metrolink. In the video, the detector started with “UP” because UP owns the tracks.
Amtrak and AWVR Fan well I didn’t thought about that
Nice video!
Че за чудеса на десять вагонов столько дизелей
They actually aren’t that ugly when they have the engine room light off.
They are kinda spooky with the engine light on. First time I saw one was at midnight, saw it pull up, but couldnt see what it was. It was obviously different due to the headlights being way brighter and a different setup. I knew it was different but couldnt put my finger on it. Then after i dropped off the crew I was driving, I started to drive off and the train pulled across the crossing behind me. I saw the glowing light in the back and thought it looked kinda spooky.
way too many engines
I don’t think I like the chargers
I have a HO Scale Amtrak Midwest Charger it's beautiful
@@michaelglass4701 Amtrak should have picked the F125
@@amtrak_121 I’m sorry, but sadly I can’t help but to say that the F125 is rather unattractive in my opinion. It’s too bulky and it feels like another slow chugger down the line. I like the old ones myself but Chargers are very elegant and look and feel aerodynamic.
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The heat from the 7 units might have set it off. Lol
They were dead / in tow.
looks like you need stronger locos if you need 7 to pull 9 cars
at least 4 of the 7 were dead in train, the new Siemens locomotives were being transported to Pueblo for testing so weren't operating for this move. The first two Amtrak engines were probably propelling the train, and the last was probably supplying HEP to the rest of the consist assuming they didn't pass HEP from the front 2 engines through the DIT units.
Nice bum.
Ugly horrible chargers p 42s anyday
Yeah thank the fed. Replacing perfectly good P42 and F59s that have worked for DECADES with a brand new "eco-friendly" cheap looking piece of shit that locks its brakes automatically for no reason on the move. Why would you change something that already works???
The P40's/P42's haven't been working right for quite a while. If you've actually been paying attention to what was happening, the failure rates for the F59's and the Genesis are through the roof. In 2015 alone, I was delayed at least 4 times a month by a failed locomotive and I don't remember how many rescues I've seen on the #5 since 2017. Stuck brakes are a common problem on all engines from time to time, so it's nothing out of the ordinary.
Old shit is old shit.
@@nightfury8440 Old shit works fine.
Not really, would you have said that about the engines the Genesis replaced? There are a number of safety factors to consider AND like it or not, these engines are Tier IV emissions compliant which is very difficult to obtain with 4400hp and efficient operation, which these perform well.
Things evolve, that’s like you saying prop airliners work perfectly fine on an 11 hour trip from DC to LA lol, why do we need jets rhat can do it in 6?!