Denon how about some smooth echo and updated FX on the X1850 please. If you're feeling super nice maybe the ability to edit rating stars on the fly from the media players.
Engine 4.0 is a great update. However, I still miss being able to give or withdraw a star rating "on the flight". I can do that on the PC version, but I would greatly appreciate it if this function could also be entered on the Denon Prime 4.
Yeah rating on console would be great. Also a way of showing tracks which were previously mixed with the track currently running (with rating) would be a great idea. Sometimes you find a great sounding combo while mixing and it would be really awesome to have that pair saved somehow
I'm guessing you were running a pre-release (or maybe beta) version for this video because the expanded playlist view actually shows the waveforms in the official release (with cue points etc) which makes way more sense than expanding to a blank space. 👍
@@djsonofibiza it would be great if it can be spectrum waveforms, like in trakor software, where you can see what kind of track it is just by looking at the waveform ( dub tacks with more deep sounds, tracks with more hi sounds, part of tracks without beat, vocal parts etc.)
I've been deejaying for over a decade. I just recently got the Prime Go and the amount of features it packs... it's impressive.. like really impressive. I come from a Pioneer background with Serato DJ. I've also used Traktor and deejayed off USB sticks with Numark and Gemini (lol way back in the beginning) and I still can't believe these amazing updates. Like, wow, the added playlist view, right next to my current wave form mix is really a nice touch. Just waiting for those Stems 😅
Having used the software update on a PRIME 4 unit last night I am massively disappointed. The work flow is so much worse, it has some big issues with loading playlists and the beat grids seem to be laggy/incorrect.
Sync from Engine to Prime 4 is pain in the ass. Analyzing my collection from Traktor to Engine and than transferring to Prime 4, oh my God! Very frustrating. And these waveforms... They don't show almost anything. Make RGB waveforms! The workflow with RGB waveforms is so much faster.
It looks so slow to respond to screen touch. The amount of times you had to tap two or three times added to the headache it induced in me. I couldn't imagine ever doing a live performance with that sluggish response time
Awesome how many features get added with every major update, the only things keeping me from fully switching to denon is a missing track-color option, and no full RGB waveforms
Same here. I would like to see RGB tracks so you can SEE what kind of track it is without hearing it. I loved that in Traktor and after switching to Engine this is for me the biggest issue (besides the frustrating sync tracks collection job)
The update is super except for one thing - the panel with Loop & Сue was lowered down - this is very inconvenient! It was great when the panel was under the wave of the track.
Yes. I miss that from Traktor. When I was playing on Traktor I just look at the waveforms and I know what kind of track it is ( more dub/ without highs, where are the vocal parts, parts without beat etc)
We’ve got a lofty wishlist - aside from stems I’d really like to have some kind of live sampler mode: let me take a cue point or loop and assign it as a sample for triggering throughout a set even if that track isn’t loaded anymore. Triggering those samples as gated or latched/looping would allow us to build layered elements with other songs rather than one shots. Ideally samples would have the option to sync as well
I love the fact they add all these features as I own the sc live 4. But one thing I would like to see on all branded units is the ability to change from bpm to pitch scale on the display. As this will give people the opportunity to mix by ear without having to look at the bpm. That will improve the skill of the people that have only ever used digital which tells them the bpm so they already know what to set the next track at. As that partially takes away the original skill of beat matching. (Before keyboard warriors start, I am not degrading any of the features on all the modern units) I would just like to see the opportunity for people to be able to mix with scale if they want to practice that.
Fantastic new update but do you know when stems will be released to all users? And also do you know if denon are planning on adding more sound effects to give you more choice in future updates?
@@djphilter they are still working on it but they want to ensure they have it right before releasing it to the public. As you’ve likely seen, the other brands have released half finished products to the market.
@@djphilter it’s ‘pretty good’ but far from a finished product, lots of artefacts, volume spikes etc. Djay Pro does a half decent job but again needs plenty of work. What’s the point in InMusic doing the same? So people can flock to the RUclips comments to slate them for not being good enough, it’s a no win situation. They are using their Akai brand and music production experts to perfect the algorithm, I’m guessing the tech will be ported across from that once they suss it out.
Am I the only one not thát enthousiastic about this update? The touchscreen on my Prime Go seems a little less sensitive, especially when I load tracks from online sources (Tidal). Also, when I load a track on a deck, I can't see the status of the current playing deck anymore. Would be nice to see a timer and maybe some indication that that deck is 'blocked' for loading. But above all, last friday my Prime Go went nuts during a party. While i was scrolling through a non-playing track, the tempo went up and the sensitivity went to -/+50% (even though I didnt touch the tempo faders). But even more frustrating: the currently playing track changed it's tempo too! And no, I didnt have sync on. I had to restart to fix the problem. Hopefully this glitch will be fixed by the next update.
In terms of features I'd really like the playlist organisation option to stick 'per playlist '. So I might want one playlist organised A-Z, and another one organised by BPM. It would be nice if the organisation method you set was separate for each playlist and stuck with that playlist until changed.
I love the update for my sc live 4 but I think we could still have the options where we can take vocals out bass or have just just vocals or instrumental on the fx pads
Still the same old basic BPM resolution? It's just a basic upgrade the computer software installation engine has & all DJ software worth its salt has. 128.86 BPM for example. Not just 128.8 BPM!
Please add a no waveform option so I can better train on beat matching 🙏🏼, if you don’t want to redesign the ui to have bigger decks I’ll’be happy also whit a larger browser anything to cover the waveform, still 4 big deck and no waveform would be a dream, other than that the last update is amazing
Thanks for a great video update!! I was wondering, is there a way to tag lets say 10 or more FAVOURITE playlists or folders in one place? I find it so annoying to have to go back and forth between playlists to find the playlist I'm looking for. For example - I'm playing from a pre-prepared playlist then someone ask for another track (not in my playlist) which means I need to go out and follow the tree to find the playlist where the song could be and then have to renavigate back to the playlist I was playing from. It would make things mush more efficient to have a FAVOURITES list that we can prepare before a gig.
Creating playlists on the devices while playing is something I've been waiting for ages! I got all my music internally on the Prime 4 but have to use the laptop to make playlists...
Offline locker downloads require the top beatport streaming subscription (Professional) which I believe is $29.99/month and includes up to 1000 offline downloads.
@@drwmediaI think he is asking if we can download music from Beatport for offline usage. This was not possible before even with the expensive package. Engine DJ needed to make updates to SW to allow offline storage
🔥🔥🔥If we have two decks(2 sc5000’s) one song playing on each deck; why can’t we see the opposite track on the other deck while you have a stacked waveform just like on the CDJ 3000’s
I have SC6000m's and figured with all the sweet new layout options that they'd included stacking waveforms for those who are using just two decks on the SC series. Unfortunately it looks like we're still stuck with singles unless running dual layers on each deck. Maybe one day in the non too distant future we'll get this one on an update.
I would like a track logger. Give me a list of everything I played that session or until I clear it. I take requests and sometimes don’t remember what I played that night. I can go back and look, maybe even option to use log to make a new playlist.
Bonsoir j'ai téléchargé 4.0 sur mon denon prime 2 ce soir. Je ne retrouve plus les fonctions fx effets en bas de l'écran . JE trouvais cette fonction super et rapide pour changer fx . ET j'ai toujours mon problème démarrage play sur deck 2. POUVEZ VOUS M'AIDER SVP ? Merci beaucoup par avance .
I've yet to test it again, but one of the annoying thing with Engine OS is when you are using a rekordbox USB library, and filtering by BPM, when you load a song, it automatically moves the song to 120BPM until it finishes analysing it. This means you may get "teleported" very far from where you were. I'd like that they assume the Rekordbox BPM, and then change it if it was wrong. Because right now you are "stuck" with the song highlighted until it returns to the correct BPM position
@@WUreta that’s a you problem then isn’t it. InMusic aren’t going to waste their energy and resources on catering to people who want to use a rival brand software to organise their library, why should they?
very useful, next time keep this boot-licking opinion to yourself. If they provide a way to read rekordbox db's, then it's a legitimate way of using the product. Asking for tracks to not move around is not asking for feature parity in terms of DB reading
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Denon how about some smooth echo and updated FX on the X1850 please. If you're feeling super nice maybe the ability to edit rating stars on the fly from the media players.
Engine 4.0 is a great update. However, I still miss being able to give or withdraw a star rating "on the flight". I can do that on the PC version, but I would greatly appreciate it if this function could also be entered on the Denon Prime 4.
Yeah rating on console would be great. Also a way of showing tracks which were previously mixed with the track currently running (with rating) would be a great idea. Sometimes you find a great sounding combo while mixing and it would be really awesome to have that pair saved somehow
I'm guessing you were running a pre-release (or maybe beta) version for this video because the expanded playlist view actually shows the waveforms in the official release (with cue points etc) which makes way more sense than expanding to a blank space. 👍
Non analysed tracks was my guess.
It would be nice if you could change the waveform colours
Yes u can put it on daytime settings and its all white and with purple waveformes
@@djsonofibiza it would be great if it can be spectrum waveforms, like in trakor software, where you can see what kind of track it is just by looking at the waveform ( dub tacks with more deep sounds, tracks with more hi sounds, part of tracks without beat, vocal parts etc.)
I just updated and what a difference! Thanks Denon😂 love my Prime Go- again
Can we get waveforms with RGB colors?
Can't wait to try it out. My 2 SC6000's are coming this week 😁
Whoop Whoop!
Waiting on the stems update
Who isn't!
Absolutely really handy on the fly. So many Denon controllers would benefit.
Better keep waiting. Thats almost a myth and false promise at this point
This
engine dj is really underrated!
I've been deejaying for over a decade. I just recently got the Prime Go and the amount of features it packs... it's impressive.. like really impressive. I come from a Pioneer background with Serato DJ. I've also used Traktor and deejayed off USB sticks with Numark and Gemini (lol way back in the beginning) and I still can't believe these amazing updates. Like, wow, the added playlist view, right next to my current wave form mix is really a nice touch. Just waiting for those Stems 😅
Totally.
@@djphilter its just the stems, collab with serato would be nice!
@@djphilterThe Prime GO is legit af….. until you start using it night in and night out… then you realize the build quality is subpar…
The denon go is a gem 💎!!! Watch when you need music quick!!
We want a better way to set up auto mix, been able to set start and end points just like Traktor.
Yessss!!
Dang, features I didn't even know I wanted. I learned to mix on traktor 10+ years ago so I really like that little bar thing they added.
Stems update. That’s what would set engine DJ apart from pioneer all in ones. Also have stems on all stand alone controllers.
Yup 💯 pioneer would die right there!!
Having used the software update on a PRIME 4 unit last night I am massively disappointed. The work flow is so much worse, it has some big issues with loading playlists and the beat grids seem to be laggy/incorrect.
Sync from Engine to Prime 4 is pain in the ass. Analyzing my collection from Traktor to Engine and than transferring to Prime 4, oh my God! Very frustrating. And these waveforms... They don't show almost anything. Make RGB waveforms! The workflow with RGB waveforms is so much faster.
Great update just need stems
Where's Stems? Sigh.
Glad i went for the Prime 4+! Denon coming up with the goods.
It looks so slow to respond to screen touch. The amount of times you had to tap two or three times added to the headache it induced in me. I couldn't imagine ever doing a live performance with that sluggish response time
Valid… noticed that myself
@@papi_roisterous sorry, but how can this information be considered helpful, if you don't even mention the name of the device?
@@taneltolsting2900 wasn’t talking to you
Has this update fixed the unchangeable/stuck logo in the deck platter centre circle display?
Awesome how many features get added with every major update, the only things keeping me from fully switching to denon is a missing track-color option, and no full RGB waveforms
Same here. I would like to see RGB tracks so you can SEE what kind of track it is without hearing it. I loved that in Traktor and after switching to Engine this is for me the biggest issue (besides the frustrating sync tracks collection job)
*A useful guide, thx*
The update is super except for one thing - the panel with Loop & Сue was lowered down - this is very inconvenient! It was great when the panel was under the wave of the track.
when a colorfull waveform?
Yes. I miss that from Traktor. When I was playing on Traktor I just look at the waveforms and I know what kind of track it is ( more dub/ without highs, where are the vocal parts, parts without beat etc)
We’ve got a lofty wishlist - aside from stems I’d really like to have some kind of live sampler mode: let me take a cue point or loop and assign it as a sample for triggering throughout a set even if that track isn’t loaded anymore. Triggering those samples as gated or latched/looping would allow us to build layered elements with other songs rather than one shots. Ideally samples would have the option to sync as well
and Yet no stand alone stems
Is there any adjustment of the jogs to make them longer in the backspin? Any adjustments to the seila screen?
still NO STEMS that sucks
I love the fact they add all these features as I own the sc live 4.
But one thing I would like to see on all branded units is the ability to change from bpm to pitch scale on the display.
As this will give people the opportunity to mix by ear without having to look at the bpm.
That will improve the skill of the people that have only ever used digital which tells them the bpm so they already know what to set the next track at. As that partially takes away the original skill of beat matching.
(Before keyboard warriors start, I am not degrading any of the features on all the modern units) I would just like to see the opportunity for people to be able to mix with scale if they want to practice that.
Fantastic new update but do you know when stems will be released to all users? And also do you know if denon are planning on adding more sound effects to give you more choice in future updates?
Any news on stems??
Head to the forum, they have given an update.
What's the update?
@@djphilter they are still working on it but they want to ensure they have it right before releasing it to the public. As you’ve likely seen, the other brands have released half finished products to the market.
@@djstuc Yeah, Pioneer botched it but Serato seems pretty good. I've been using the FLX-10 with Serato and I love it. Can't wait for it on Engine OS!
@@djphilter it’s ‘pretty good’ but far from a finished product, lots of artefacts, volume spikes etc. Djay Pro does a half decent job but again needs plenty of work.
What’s the point in InMusic doing the same? So people can flock to the RUclips comments to slate them for not being good enough, it’s a no win situation. They are using their Akai brand and music production experts to perfect the algorithm, I’m guessing the tech will be ported across from that once they suss it out.
Am I the only one not thát enthousiastic about this update? The touchscreen on my Prime Go seems a little less sensitive, especially when I load tracks from online sources (Tidal). Also, when I load a track on a deck, I can't see the status of the current playing deck anymore. Would be nice to see a timer and maybe some indication that that deck is 'blocked' for loading.
But above all, last friday my Prime Go went nuts during a party. While i was scrolling through a non-playing track, the tempo went up and the sensitivity went to -/+50% (even though I didnt touch the tempo faders). But even more frustrating: the currently playing track changed it's tempo too! And no, I didnt have sync on. I had to restart to fix the problem. Hopefully this glitch will be fixed by the next update.
In terms of features I'd really like the playlist organisation option to stick 'per playlist '. So I might want one playlist organised A-Z, and another one organised by BPM. It would be nice if the organisation method you set was separate for each playlist and stuck with that playlist until changed.
Will they or would they do a tablet version of engine DJ? Much lighter than a laptop to carry around🤔
Hi crossfader, does this Denon prime 4 plus is compatible with the pioneer RMX 1000?
Thanks for the vid. Another awesome update from Denon. Appreciated. 🙌 SC 6000's getting updated as we 'speak' 🙌
I love the update for my sc live 4 but I think we could still have the options where we can take vocals out bass or have just just vocals or instrumental on the fx pads
is the update also available on the sc live 4? I didn't read about it anywhere
After train spotting feature, I am waiting for a Shazam-proof mode 😅
you are awesome thank you for this
how do you adjust the parameters for the fader echo out in 4.0? i think they are different than before.
Can we please get beat jump on the mixstream pro series
Stems??
Right!?
STEMS
Exactly!!
hi, i cant find the stems option in the 4.0 version for my prime4+
Ok, but no bluethoot for speakers :(
Its so cool, i wish they could add a separate usb shortcut ❤
Searching a playlist is a lifesaver!!
Yesss been asking for that for 2 years!!!
Still the same old basic BPM resolution? It's just a basic upgrade the computer software installation engine has & all DJ software worth its salt has. 128.86 BPM for example. Not just 128.8 BPM!
No change to Denon Prime Go layout options - I want the library shown with the waveform - that's the best thing by far for this update
Please add a no waveform option so I can better train on beat matching 🙏🏼, if you don’t want to redesign the ui to have bigger decks I’ll’be happy also whit a larger browser anything to cover the waveform, still 4 big deck and no waveform would be a dream, other than that the last update is amazing
Thanks for a great video update!! I was wondering, is there a way to tag lets say 10 or more FAVOURITE playlists or folders in one place? I find it so annoying to have to go back and forth between playlists to find the playlist I'm looking for. For example - I'm playing from a pre-prepared playlist then someone ask for another track (not in my playlist) which means I need to go out and follow the tree to find the playlist where the song could be and then have to renavigate back to the playlist I was playing from. It would make things mush more efficient to have a FAVOURITES list that we can prepare before a gig.
Creating playlists on the devices while playing is something I've been waiting for ages! I got all my music internally on the Prime 4 but have to use the laptop to make playlists...
that function has existed since the beginning!
@@tomazinh0 I mean yeah but I don't think you can delete or move tracks?
@@prettymigzuyes you can. It's slightly cumbersome and complicated to do it on the device though. Using a connected computer is way faster
@@marcoeffe4409it’s easy I do it all the time
Once it gets live stems it will officially be wayyyyyy better than pioneer!!
IMPORTANT ON PRIME 4+
- Make more visual if some Sweep FX is selected
- More zoom out in the Waveform
With beatport link. Can you download directly onto the sc6000??
Offline locker downloads require the top beatport streaming subscription (Professional) which I believe is $29.99/month and includes up to 1000 offline downloads.
@@drwmediaI think he is asking if we can download music from Beatport for offline usage. This was not possible before even with the expensive package. Engine DJ needed to make updates to SW to allow offline storage
On layout screen I don’t have decks and waveforms can anyone help please?
They got rid of stems ?
Sería bueno que podamos poner en español el lenguaje del software!!!
🔥🔥🔥If we have two decks(2 sc5000’s) one song playing on each deck; why can’t we see the opposite track on the other deck while you have a stacked waveform just like on the CDJ 3000’s
I love to not have this feature myself. Forced to listen and adjust tol it somund bang on.
I have SC6000m's and figured with all the sweet new layout options that they'd included stacking waveforms for those who are using just two decks on the SC series. Unfortunately it looks like we're still stuck with singles unless running dual layers on each deck.
Maybe one day in the non too distant future we'll get this one on an update.
@@drwmedia I don't know, Just looked at Mojax review and he clearly has stacked waveforms on the screen of motorized 6000 player.
Just layout then view I think to set which way you want it.
"help you mix"
Cue raging elitist vinyl DJ's...
by any chance has this update messed with your EQ sound? i feel like its no longer the same effect when used
We appreciate it but we want the stems.
why is it possible to change the language with a stick
Thanks nice clear explanation
I would like a track logger. Give me a list of everything I played that session or until I clear it. I take requests and sometimes don’t remember what I played that night. I can go back and look, maybe even option to use log to make a new playlist.
The "track logger".... is actually called "history" & it's available from the moment you start playing, logging every single track you play.
Is it also available on the sc live 4?
Mic echo
Did they fix the zoom on the waveform? I would love to have a similar zoom out option as in the pioneer devices
Screens are multi-touch.
Juat pinch or expand to zoom in and out on waveforms
@@papi_roisterous Thanks, I knew that :) The Problem is the Zoom-Out is not nearly enough.
@@Schwmmr understood
👏👏
Bonsoir j'ai téléchargé 4.0 sur mon denon prime 2 ce soir. Je ne retrouve plus les fonctions fx effets en bas de l'écran . JE trouvais cette fonction super et rapide pour changer fx . ET j'ai toujours mon problème démarrage play sur deck 2. POUVEZ VOUS M'AIDER SVP ? Merci beaucoup par avance .
Ima talk my shit. This new update is ugly and garbage now my waveforms dont go all the way to the bottom when running vertical. Honestly hate it.
To add fx sepect beats feedback frequency for both decks appear on the bottom now making my waveforms smaller
@@tylerschlee4134have you actually downloaded and used it yourself yet? Or are you basing this off the Beta version being used in the video?
@@marcoeffe4409 The FX panel isnt meant to be there and isnt on the live build.
@@marcoeffe4409 head to the forum, you need to reset your unit and it will disappear. It’s not meant to be there at all.
@@djstucjust checked and it went away after reboot
Hide BPMs!!!!
😄
I've yet to test it again, but one of the annoying thing with Engine OS is when you are using a rekordbox USB library, and filtering by BPM, when you load a song, it automatically moves the song to 120BPM until it finishes analysing it. This means you may get "teleported" very far from where you were.
I'd like that they assume the Rekordbox BPM, and then change it if it was wrong. Because right now you are "stuck" with the song highlighted until it returns to the correct BPM position
There’s an easy solution to that.
@@djstuc Which is?? And using the Denon Engine through my collection is not a solution, as I don't want to maintain 2 databases + 2 usb sticks...
@@WUreta that’s a you problem then isn’t it. InMusic aren’t going to waste their energy and resources on catering to people who want to use a rival brand software to organise their library, why should they?
very useful, next time keep this boot-licking opinion to yourself. If they provide a way to read rekordbox db's, then it's a legitimate way of using the product. Asking for tracks to not move around is not asking for feature parity in terms of DB reading
@@WUreta happy DJing with your convoluted process 👍🏼
Yawn 🥱
👆 Alpha theta sales executive be like
@@sicfxmusic 👆Fanboys be like "Wheeeeee"
@@ryan1845 No I use DDJ-FLX6 and never owned Engine controllers. But unlike you I know how to give and take respect.
A misleading title but I appreciate the update on the platform.
Is Jamie homeless now? Looks like it.
I have been to his house and it's gorgeous