I think 161 is the hardest, because no matter what treble you hit to start with (T17, T18, T19, T20), you have to move to the other side of the Board, whether you want to or not
Rhys Edwards Exactly. They sometimes try to hit triple 19 right after 20, so it could be difference. Coz they have to hit triple 17 after hitting triple 20 to finish 161.
That Rob Cross 161 out is probably the seconf best finish I've ever seen. In this situation on that stage...Only one to top this is Chizzy finishing 161 against MVG in the Premier League facing elimination ad MVG was up 6-5
To answer your question: Yes, I expected the 170 to not be in the top 5 hardest checkouts since it "just" requires hitting the same treble twice instead of switching. Furthermore it is a checkout that may occur more often than other high finishes since players try to establish a checkout rather on the 170 than on 167, 164, 161 and so on.
My theory of double top not being that easy is the fact that you need perfect hight for this throw. Too low or high and you miss. With f.i. double 16 you can still hit it while making two mistakes: if you are too high (aiming for the middle of the bed) AND too much to the left, you are still successful. A bit like in golf, aiming too much to the right, but pulling the shot can leave you near the pin;-)
Thanks for this! Recently I was thinking about this and actually thought 161 is the hardest one. It makes sense as one needs bull and 2 different trebles, whilst T19 (167) is definitely easier than T17.
158 not so much because it has 2x T20 but the 155 should indeed be very close to 139. The 139 route even has many more ways to check out but still it seems to have a lower percentage
Mensur is probably 50% or those double 14’s, let’s be honest. Great video, but I wasn’t surprised about double tops, many of the match’s I have recently watched people seem to be going more for double 16 or 18, mainly 16 for the fact that double eight is next to 16 so you don’t have to move much in most cases.
Mensur is actually responsible for only about 3.5% of the 28 checkouts from the time frame that this data was collected. In 2017, out of all the stage darts thrown at D14 he threw about a quarter of them - madness!
indeed he has, and funnily enough, he is one of my favourite players, not because he wins titles (because we know he has only one one major title) but because of how he shows compassion in darts and how much of a gentle giant he actually is.
Would of put money on 153 being the hardest checkout as there is only one way of going for it and its alot of movement no matter if you start with the T20 or T19
Not too surprised at 170 not being the hardest. As you allude to earlier in the video it's easier to be able to go for the same double so 2 x T20 (and then the bull) would - for a professional player - be easier than T20, T19, Bull etc for 167 and so on
32 isnt the easiest double, its the smartest, because if you hit the fat 16 the adjustment for 2 x 8 is a snap and its an even number all the way through till bust, where 40 eventually turns into being left with a 5 to straiten out.
Strange enough that 133 is harder than 127 but if the first dart hit of two checkouts is T20, the second dart's section after T20 of both checkouts IS A BIG TWIST!!! -133: the 2nd dart in the S19 instead of T19, then no out! -127: even the 2nd dart hits a S17 instead of T17, still leaves an out for a Bull! In my conclusion, 133 & 127, the 2nd dart's section, T19 is easier to hit than T17 but most importantly is the checkout number remaining which is compatible of any doubles for the 3rd dart or not!
I am left-handed and but my favorite is D16 because if you hit the S16, you need to be in the same corner to hit the D8. A few days ago I almost threw 157 and 153 checkout, but I missed the D20 and the D18 :(
132 is not that difficult. I mean, it is, but if you hit 25 you can still finish with T19 Bull. So 132 is still easier than the other checkouts that require three perfect darts
Also because you're more used to going for t20, players go fo it all the time. But bull finishes are roughly around 1 out of 4 or even 5 so it is surprising that 170 isn't there.
32 isnt the easiest checkout but one of the most tactical, hitting 16 leaves double 8 hitting 8 leaves double 4, while for example hitting 5 leaves 1 double 2 (if stnding on 10), 32-16-8-4-2 you will never have to use 1 dart to hit an uneven number
There's an inherent flaw with this. 40 may not be in the top 5 checkouts but it surely is in the top 5 doubles. It's one of the doubles where missing inside is more common. Just to clarify, 20 D10 is a 40 checkout, 16 D8 is a 32 checkout and would count for this video
It's simply because 32 goes even all the way to 1 when divided by 2. Meanwhile, it's supposed to be easy, but not that much for tall players. Well, now you'll say Adrian Lewis is 6'4 and he hits it well. That's because he throws the dart like a spear and has a grip no other player has despite having a theoretically simple throw. Gary Anderson (6'2), James Wade (6'3) and Ben van de Pas (6'3 too) strongly prefer Tops and 18s. I'm a bit estranged when they tell me this double is good and this isn't. Meanwhile with two darts in hand every even double is good.
piqqy12 I saw him on a pic in FB alongside Snakebite, Jackpot, MVG and Wady. They were at a wall measuring the height like in the police station or so. Gary was right between the 6'1 and 6'2 bar. It's Peter Wright who's short - he was barely reaching the 5'11 bar if we count the mohawk, so this means *he* is actually 5'9. (For the record - MVG is exactly 5'11.) And Wady was between the 6'2 and 6'3 bar.
I think these statistics are a load of rubbish. 161 harder than 167? Identical in my opinion. Double 14 easier than double 20? No way. Miss on the inside of double 14 leaves double 7. Miss that on the inside and you can't win. Double 20 leads to double 10 and then to double 5. Most professionals favour double 20 over 14 for this reason surely? And as someone else mentioned... 150 finish on 3 bulls in a leg of 501 is easily the hardest finish - which is why no professionals attempt it on TV and why it's never been achieved on TV
@@giacomopietrosanti-darts1195 I don't actually see where the mathematics is coming from. 161 versus 167 are identical finishes assuming that a treble 20 is hit on the first dart. The adjustment for T17 or T19 is mathematically the same, as is the bull on the final dart. I would argue that 153 is as difficult as 143 or 133 etc etc. There was no explanation of how these statistics were calculated either.
@@giacomopietrosanti-darts1195 I think your thinking is a little mixed up. The stats are fine. They just dont mean what you think they mean. 161 is a difficult finish. It is attempted more often because 140 100 100 will get you to it. But because its hard finish, its failed more often than not. 167 is much less commonly arrived at finish. So, in a tournament it might be attempted 5 times and hit once. 161 is attempted 100 times and hit 5 times. You would argue that 167 was hit 20% of the time, but 161 was only hit 5% of the time therefore it's a harder finish. Clearly it's no more difficult than any 2 treble bull finish. Statistics can be used to support most ideas.
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I think 161 is the hardest, because no matter what treble you hit to start with (T17, T18, T19, T20), you have to move to the other side of the Board, whether you want to or not
I agree with you and the same can be said for 167
Rhys Edwards Exactly. They sometimes try to hit triple 19 right after 20, so it could be difference.
Coz they have to hit triple 17 after hitting triple 20 to finish 161.
@@rhysedwards-euphonium7116 yes, but 167 is always with triple 20 and 19 wish are the most used triples, so I would say 161 is harder than 167
LOL , You are now exactly at 161 Likes!!!!
@@rhysedwards-euphonium7116 Yeah, 167 might be easier because you often switch from 20 to 19
That Rob Cross 161 out is probably the seconf best finish I've ever seen. In this situation on that stage...Only one to top this is Chizzy finishing 161 against MVG in the Premier League facing elimination ad MVG was up 6-5
To answer your question: Yes, I expected the 170 to not be in the top 5 hardest checkouts since it "just" requires hitting the same treble twice instead of switching. Furthermore it is a checkout that may occur more often than other high finishes since players try to establish a checkout rather on the 170 than on 167, 164, 161 and so on.
why not make it a top 10? this was so entertaining :D respect!
It’s because there’s only 21 doubles
@@PBS1976huh? There are like 120+ scores you can check out
See, this is a GREAT video. Perfect example of the Fair Use Act as well. Big thumbs up from me.
Worldwide Darts Thank you!! Glad to see you commenting on a video of mine
My theory of double top not being that easy is the fact that you need perfect hight for this throw. Too low or high and you miss. With f.i. double 16 you can still hit it while making two mistakes: if you are too high (aiming for the middle of the bed) AND too much to the left, you are still successful.
A bit like in golf, aiming too much to the right, but pulling the shot can leave you near the pin;-)
Another Amazing video!
Any “out” that requires two separate trebles and a double (especially a Bullseye) is tough... 🎯
Great upload thanks a bunch!
Another banger!
Interesting video, thanks!
Thanks for this! Recently I was thinking about this and actually thought 161 is the hardest one. It makes sense as one needs bull and 2 different trebles, whilst T19 (167) is definitely easier than T17.
Hit a 133 checkout recently, went for T19, D18 and then D20 to finish never seen it done this way before even tho it's probably been done.
The 161 of the double in double out 9 darter, on TV
Epic stuff!!!!!!
awesome and original vid!
Well, this video made me feel a lot better about the 139 i checked out last week 🤣
Expected the 155 (or 158) to be the hardest finish
158 not so much because it has 2x T20 but the 155 should indeed be very close to 139. The 139 route even has many more ways to check out but still it seems to have a lower percentage
Although not many people would leave it
Mensur is probably 50% or those double 14’s, let’s be honest. Great video, but I wasn’t surprised about double tops, many of the match’s I have recently watched people seem to be going more for double 16 or 18, mainly 16 for the fact that double eight is next to 16 so you don’t have to move much in most cases.
Mensur is actually responsible for only about 3.5% of the 28 checkouts from the time frame that this data was collected. In 2017, out of all the stage darts thrown at D14 he threw about a quarter of them - madness!
IIRC, Mensur was under 70% on D14
(of course i didn't mean that he literally had half of the double 14's, but ofc exaggeration was needed ;)
Yeah I know it was exaggerated haha, Mensur has definitely made D14 a more acceptable double to go for though!
indeed he has, and funnily enough, he is one of my favourite players, not because he wins titles (because we know he has only one one major title) but because of how he shows compassion in darts and how much of a gentle giant he actually is.
Number 4 is double 12, I have to now this as a Gary Anderson fan :P
Would of put money on 153 being the hardest checkout as there is only one way of going for it and its alot of movement no matter if you start with the T20 or T19
Not too surprised at 170 not being the hardest. As you allude to earlier in the video it's easier to be able to go for the same double so 2 x T20 (and then the bull) would - for a professional player - be easier than T20, T19, Bull etc for 167 and so on
We need a video with the top 10. 5 is not enough 🎉
Today I've checked out 161. Couldnt believe my eyes. My opponent neither 🤣
32 isnt the easiest double, its the smartest, because if you hit the fat 16 the adjustment for 2 x 8 is a snap and its an even number all the way through till bust, where 40 eventually turns into being left with a 5 to straiten out.
Strange enough that 133 is harder than 127 but if the first dart hit of two checkouts is T20, the second dart's section after T20 of both checkouts IS A BIG TWIST!!!
-133: the 2nd dart in the S19 instead of T19, then no out!
-127: even the 2nd dart hits a S17 instead of T17, still leaves an out for a Bull!
In my conclusion, 133 & 127, the 2nd dart's section, T19 is easier to hit than T17 but most importantly is the checkout number remaining which is compatible of any doubles for the 3rd dart or not!
Im left handed and I find D10, D15 and D6 way easier than D16 and D8
Bratan yesss me too, also left handed
not just me then, 62 out is T18 D4 for me
Bratan I'm left handed but D16 and D8 are my preferences. Throwing to the right side seems to me to be throwing across yourself.
Yeah im right handed but i see many left handers prefer D10 than D16, James Wade also.
I'm left handed and love D11 D8 and D16
Triple Bull is way harder
t20 t20 d15 not so hard ;)
150 (3 Bulls) is only easy for the high-consistent players!
What is with 132??
157 is probably the hardest checkout
Can I get a link of the music, please?
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What about 150 and 132
I really hate double 16 . My favorite doubles are D14 D6 D18 and D13
I am right handed btw guys
Who would loose a bet double top and 170 are not in this video?
The hardest is getting the 3 darts in the 20.
I find 161 and 164 easier than the rest
In my case, with an 85 checkout, I will go T19 D14.
When I have 53, I will go 17 D18.
When I have 54 I will go 18 D18.
When I have 55 I will go 19 D18.
When I have 56 I will go 20 D18.
If I had 164, I will go for 2 treble 19's for the bullseye.
my hardest finish was 139 (on masters out) with t19 25 t19
That doesnt make any sense
I am left-handed and but my favorite is D16 because if you hit the S16, you need to be in the same corner to hit the D8. A few days ago I almost threw 157 and 153 checkout, but I missed the D20 and the D18 :(
What's about the 132 Checkout? Bull Bull D16
132 is not that difficult. I mean, it is, but if you hit 25 you can still finish with T19 Bull. So 132 is still easier than the other checkouts that require three perfect darts
Well Double 20 out of top 5 easiest is surprising,but 170 is not,due to hitting two trebles 20 is easier than switching to other numbers.
Also because you're more used to going for t20, players go fo it all the time. But bull finishes are roughly around 1 out of 4 or even 5 so it is surprising that 170 isn't there.
You acknowledge Mensur's 28 checkout but not Jelle Klaasen's signature 36? I leave the D18 myself because of him!
Jelle preferes d20 now
I think 170 is easier then any other bull finish becausee treble 20 is I think the easiest treble to hit for pro darters
What about Deller's 138? Eric figured it was too tough because you have to change directions so much.
keneblana the T20-T18 switch should be easier than a T20-T19 switch
True Jake. That was Eric's excuse for going 18-D16 and not the bull.
D14 is my Favourite
Mine is D20 and D8 D16 And D10
Double 4 is mine
I think the 48 finish is also the easiest
You have that whole left corner to hit
The hardest finish is 132 (bull, bull, double 16)
No. You can check out 132 in a lot of easier ways
132 (bull, bull, d16)
Or
150 (bull, bull, bull)
99 is probably one of the worst finishes to leave.
Why would anyone go Bull Bull Bull rather than 57 57 D18
why is there no 20x4? 240 should be hardest
i thought 151 would be here
I think there's no 170 in top 5 hard checkout because MVG likes the number.
2:05 widdloggg
Why isn’t 125 or 150 in the top 5 hardest checkout list?!
32 isnt the easiest checkout but one of the most tactical, hitting 16 leaves double 8 hitting 8 leaves double 4, while for example hitting 5 leaves 1 double 2 (if stnding on 10), 32-16-8-4-2 you will never have to use 1 dart to hit an uneven number
Actually the 180 is the hardest one to hit
2:06
I thought the 132 bull bull D16 would be the hardest
132 is not the hardest because you can go other ways, 25 T19 Bull is much easier than other checkouts
Good video but man the inception music was not fitting at all
There's an inherent flaw with this. 40 may not be in the top 5 checkouts but it surely is in the top 5 doubles. It's one of the doubles where missing inside is more common. Just to clarify, 20 D10 is a 40 checkout, 16 D8 is a 32 checkout and would count for this video
A lot of these aren't the hardest they are just the most preferred.
It's simply because 32 goes even all the way to 1 when divided by 2. Meanwhile, it's supposed to be easy, but not that much for tall players. Well, now you'll say Adrian Lewis is 6'4 and he hits it well. That's because he throws the dart like a spear and has a grip no other player has despite having a theoretically simple throw. Gary Anderson (6'2), James Wade (6'3) and Ben van de Pas (6'3 too) strongly prefer Tops and 18s. I'm a bit estranged when they tell me this double is good and this isn't. Meanwhile with two darts in hand every even double is good.
spd7693 Gary Anderson is not 6’2”. He’s more like 5’9”. James Wade is more like 6’.
piqqy12
I saw him on a pic in FB alongside Snakebite, Jackpot, MVG and Wady. They were at a wall measuring the height like in the police station or so. Gary was right between the 6'1 and 6'2 bar. It's Peter Wright who's short - he was barely reaching the 5'11 bar if we count the mohawk, so this means *he* is actually 5'9. (For the record - MVG is exactly 5'11.) And Wady was between the 6'2 and 6'3 bar.
What about 132
It's not as hard as the others, because if you get 25 instead of bull you can still check it out
Interesting, I thought 155 would be the hardest
156 is the easiest
16 second easiest.
Shows mvg missing it 😂
Easiest with 3 Darts
I once threw out a 169
I think these statistics are a load of rubbish. 161 harder than 167? Identical in my opinion. Double 14 easier than double 20? No way. Miss on the inside of double 14 leaves double 7. Miss that on the inside and you can't win. Double 20 leads to double 10 and then to double 5. Most professionals favour double 20 over 14 for this reason surely? And as someone else mentioned... 150 finish on 3 bulls in a leg of 501 is easily the hardest finish - which is why no professionals attempt it on TV and why it's never been achieved on TV
Statistics are not really questionable... Statistics is mathematics, and mathematics is not an opinion
@@giacomopietrosanti-darts1195 ...lies, damned lies and statistics :)
@@giacomopietrosanti-darts1195 I don't actually see where the mathematics is coming from. 161 versus 167 are identical finishes assuming that a treble 20 is hit on the first dart. The adjustment for T17 or T19 is mathematically the same, as is the bull on the final dart. I would argue that 153 is as difficult as 143 or 133 etc etc. There was no explanation of how these statistics were calculated either.
@@jonhoward180 161 is the least checked out score in relation to the number of attempts, so it's statistically the most difficult one
@@giacomopietrosanti-darts1195 I think your thinking is a little mixed up. The stats are fine. They just dont mean what you think they mean. 161 is a difficult finish. It is attempted more often because 140 100 100 will get you to it. But because its hard finish, its failed more often than not. 167 is much less commonly arrived at finish. So, in a tournament it might be attempted 5 times and hit once. 161 is attempted 100 times and hit 5 times. You would argue that 167 was hit 20% of the time, but 161 was only hit 5% of the time therefore it's a harder finish. Clearly it's no more difficult than any 2 treble bull finish. Statistics can be used to support most ideas.