Folks, for the first time in almost four years of Simply Railway, this is the first time where... THERE IS NO TOILETS TIME!! Usually, toilets time is a critical criterion for me to decide if I'm recording the journey. This one is an exception (because of Boulogne Sur Mer) Don't worry, there is way more Toilets Time to come ;) Thibault
My friend, toilets are a no option in commuter services in Argentina due to security concerns of what may transpire in there: if they want to rob or rape you, pushing you inside a toilet and locking the door is perfect. Plus, health issues: perennial waste and foul odors due to lack of cleaning them. Therefore easier option is to remove them at all. Ironically, the Japanese EMUs which used to ran in other lines had available toilers until the early 90's. It seems civility has declined, as well as manners, in the past 30 years. Leave toilets for first world services
We forgive you! Besides, it was only 36 minutes and if I read that correctly, the fare was only 0.07 euros. Not enough to cover the cost of the toilet paper.
Those coachs originally where produced by Werkspoor company and Fiat/Materfer company. The coachs had toilets at national company Ferrocarriles Argentinos time. Even they had the Push & Pull system. The engine on one top and a cabin at the opposite top. Like is used in San Francisco.
I took this line a couple of times, back when the Mitre Line had problems almost every day. I was told to be wary of pickpocketers, and sure it was, the passengers caught one and promptly threw him out of the moving train! Fortunately for the man, it wasn't running at high speed, so he wasn't hurt.
The turnover of the locomotive only happens on sundays and holidays, because they have to use the shift machine at the end of the track, so they park the train a little further away. The rest of the days, when the service has more frecuency, there is always another locomotive parked in the station ready to be hooked up to an incoming train. That locomotive was left there by the previous train, and so on. So, you only have to walk that far on sundays and holidays.
I hope you keep making videos on Argentinian railways, my personal daily commute is in the Roca line, to the south of buenos aires, and i've developed a strong love/hate relationship with it.
You literally passed through 3 blocks away from my home! There were plans to elctrify this line a couple of years ago, as well as the San Martín Line, but intentions were dropped as a consequence of our local economic crisis, nowadays the only news for this line is that the Goverment wont extend Ferrovías's concession and therefore this line will also be public operated.
The concession not being extended is solely based on someone like Javier Milei not winning the 2023 election and ending all concessions by privatising the entire railway network (again) by getting the government out of the way...
I guess Argentina is sufferring worst economic crisis. As far as railways are concerned..they can turn towards india as indian railways too were loss making once upon a time but in last few years they have improved significantly in terms.of speed, infra, electrification and new models.. And all this at a very sustainable cost
@@kishoremali5547 Nowadays the crisis has become worse, but the lack of economic growth has been here since 2011 at least. I don´t see that happening -Major change in operations- in the future due to cultural barriers, If you announce privatization of railways (as it was announced in the 90s) you will have a social crisis with massive protests as a major part of the society demands that this kind of services must be public-operated. Not the greatest idea if you see the major losses and inneficiency Trenes Argentinos has nowadays. It is more complex but I think that explains a bit why there are 50 years old trains still running everyday local services.
@@kishoremali5547 Who told you Indian Railways is not making loss as of now. We spend about 131 rupees for every 100 rupees we earn. It's true that there has been a massive influx of capital in the railway to the tunes of billions of dollars but all that is been done with the hopes that we would one day make money. The delays the projects suffers won't let that happen. Taking example of high speed rail project the estimated cost of 100,000 crores ($12.5 billion) has risen to 150,000 crores ($18 billion) and that just one project. There are projects that delayed for over 300 months. We don't feel it because our economy is strong but it won't always be the case.
@@mukulbajpai6190 hello...i am not here for a fist fight in an intl forum. My point here was indian railway is pretty decentralised and making profits in Silos. Also there is a plan to privatise some routes to make it profitable which as usual is being opposed by communist assholes. Also indian railway dedicated freight corridor is commencing up in 2023 which will free up passenger train routes making it more.speedy and introduce more new wagons like vande bharat trains etc. As well the freight revenue too will go up which currently loses out to highways. Bullet trains toi are coming to Indua. In nutshell i am saying indian govt has the appetite to make railways work. ALSO we no more import engines and wagons as most of them are made in India at effective prices. We are also expanding railways to North East which is most rugged and Slushy terrain owing to rough weather. We can very well export our tech, wagons, Engines To Latam nations like argentina, chile, brazil . They too will benefit. To better understand how poor state Argentine railways is...try exploring the Patagonia routes which has immensely old infra almost 50 years and they dont have money even to keep the trains running Let alone electrify it.
Mi padre se radicó en Boulogne en 1954. Mi mamá, que aún vive, en 1949. Papá trabajó 37 años en esta línea. Su padrastro fue guarda trenes durante 42. Nací en Boulogne y viví hasta los 27 años allí. Luego, durante otros 27 en Aristóbulo del Valle. Escribí mucho sobre la historia de esta increíble línea. Inaugurada en 1909 circuló durante unos años sobre el río de la Plata en un viaducto de cerca de 10 kms. Solo conozco dos fotos, ya que tuvo corta duración.
Man I love trains, I love your content, I took the Belgrano Norte everyday for like 9 years to come back from school and university, a piece of my heart is with that train, so I i'm glad you have been able to ride it!
I lived near one of this train stops my whole life and watching someone have such a different perspective and experience with it is rather entertaining. hope you have a hot dog from the retiro station, they're the best.
It would be very interesting to build a new station at Jorge Newbery Airport (Aeroparque), connected through a tunnel under the runaway to the terminal, which is at the opposite side of the railway tracks.
I'm glad you liked the experience of riding on the door of the train, it's really cool, around 6PM the views are amazing. ;) Usually the train workers go through all of the wagons in order to make sure all the doors are closed, except when it's really crowded.
Think Mumbai's commuter rail is like that also; apparently older trains have doors too but they're left open even when the train is moving so as to speed up boarding/alighting at stations
En boulogne que sur mer Francia ..fallecio el Libertador de Argentina y Sudamérica el general San Martín en agosto del año 1850..clement ..🤗🤗🙄..Saludos desde mar del plata Argentina.
Ok, some comments to add and better comprehend the environment 1) Argentina did privatise its railway operations in the 90's and Ferrovias is one, alongside Metrovias in the Urquiza line, of the last survivors. They have been neglecting the upkeep in the past five years, due to contract expiration to happen shortly, but previous to that they were considered one of the most punctual and reliable metropolitan operators 2) during the 90's most (not to say all) long distance services were discontinued and a lot of rolling stock was available to use for urban service so it was refitted for that use, that's why you see same type of coach 3) until 2017, this service had low floor platforms and Saldias is one of the last stations under refurbishment to elevate such platforms 4) in the past weeks a Chinese proposal was received to fully modernise this line including electrification and EMUs 5) not being under direct management by the State meant that this line received less attention in rolling stock and infrastructure than fully managed ones such as line San Martin or Mitre, to cite a few 6) seats tend to be easily vandalised so authorities decided to make them sturdier and harder to destroy, disregarding or not caring at all about passenger experience (toilets come on that line of reasoning too) 7) not long ago a new station was devised for Aeroparque but civil aviation authority never was fully on board the project and objected that it demanded high investments and it posed a significant risk to security due to potential bombings (as if stations in airports were something very rare in the rest of the world these days 🙄) 8) it was a miracle nobody tried to snatch your camera or phone while on such public display, you should have been more careful
I love to see the Belgrano Norte represented in any way! We (me and my band El Fracaso) filmed the travel from Boulogne Sur Mer to Grand Bourg in our full album video, it sure is an interesting journey! Thank you so much for this
I noticed how clean the rail stations where and how clean the interior and exterior of the train appeared. No one seemed to walking around staring at their cellphones totally oblivious to the real world. What a nice change.
The lack of people immersing “in their world” thru their phones is most likely due to the fact that you have to be on your P’s & Q’s constantly down here in BA or the thieves will eat you alive, especially being European/American and naive, and looking the part. But they don’t discriminate, they will stick up any local poor worker if they have the chance, and that goes tenfold if you’re a tourist inside a train, luckily he went northbound from Retiro and not southbound from Constitución cause it’s way rougher in that terminal, and we’d prolly wouldn’t have any cool video. I’m glad Thibaut had the balls, I haven’t rode an Argie train in almost 25 years even though I spend most of my time in Buenos Aires and I’m a train enthusiast….white privilege 😂
Most people don't take their mobile phones because of pickpocketers. If you open the windows, you keep your valuables in your bag or purse, away from "friends of the foreign"
@@ruste9565 As in every mega metropolis in the world there are thieves. But that's not why you don't get on the train. You do not get on the train because you are fearful or prejudiced. Have you taken the Mitre train to Tigre? You cannot say that people there are afraid. Neither on the Mitre line, nor on the Urquiza line, nor on the Roca line. The Ferrovías diesel train may go to "dangerous" areas.
@@juanguillermoaraujodiazcol449 I’ve been kidnapped in NYC and robbed in Boston and countless other metropolis, both in the states and Europe, what you say is true but is the other way round prejudice and classism are naturalized in Peroncho Argieland, and sadly classism is en vogue worldwide, one of the many reasons western civilization is falling, Argentina has not been part of the western civilization since you had the Fuxking Nazi ally Juan Domingo Perón and his personality dictatoriship which is still resounding nowadays, it’s even worse than the PRI in Mexico, and if shit doesn’t change you’ll have a Narco-state, which you sorta already do but it’s nothing compared to Mexico but you are on your way! Congrats I guess, this is what your people wanted, they didn’t even have to steal an election like the Demoncrats did, nonetheless you’re completely wrong on me being prejudiced, you don’t know me or know Jack shot about me, I judge a person by his character, as Martin Luther King said, it’d sad that in the year 2020 intellectuals have it backwards and judge by your position in the “victim hood pyramid” there were “pungas” in the 90s as well but I had no problem riding the trains back then and not northbound but westbound and southbound as well. Nowadays you have Pibe Chorros that are like 3rd-4th generation of a generation that’s based on all that is wrong and immoral, and have no moral compass, damn that has nothing to do with class as most RGs be them rich, poor or part of the ever-shrinking middle class R the ones who are brainwashed mindless drones that think any foreigner that looks the part (I’m white as fuck, can’t help it) is loaded are the riders nowadays, Argieland , if it had any opportunism to recover after General Perón’s fascism and the Leftard terrorists and the fucking Military Junta they brought in yhe 70s has completely lost its way after 2001, with these decade+ of Peronist Classist kleptomaniac gov’t; which makes me a target just for being white and foreign, which makes me a target since they assume I’m loaded cause I’m white and don’t like to dress down, a thing that never happened in yhe 90s when I lived down here for a long time as well; luckily I’m well off by Argie standards, one of the reasons I stay here since the western world is so ticked up, I’d rather be well off here for now, though I reckon I’ll have to leave to Panama or Namibia some day, even though I’m poor by Euro standards I can lead a quite nice life here and thanks to your fucking protectionism government I can make a living down here and I don’t need to take the train nowadays I can be chauffeured around and live in a very “cheto” area making an ammount that wouldn’t even let me rent a place of my own in The Bronx. Funny how you only mention the posh stations from “Zona Norte”; I lived in section 8 in the states, that’s what you fucking Argies don’t understand, being white and having nice clothes and an iPhone doesn’t make anyone “rich” in the real world only in Argieland, sadly Chile & Colombia have gone to the gutter as well, cause I love Latin America, and yeah if I just took a train once in a while there’s a 90% chance nothing would happen to me, but if I had to do it every day like a regular joe that has a 9 to 5 it’d be just a matter of time. Your gun laws are atrocious as well, it’s what the demoncrats want to do in the states, luckily I’m packing something that’s pseudo-legal anywhere in da B I go (unless it’s work related you won’t see me step a foot in da Congo-Urbano, even Zona Norte) and it saved my ass quite a few times without me even having to deploy it; as you can see I’m full of hate and anger, especially if a pibe chorro thinks I’m sweet and tries to do his thang I deploy, kick the fucker in the nuts and have the good Argies coming to help me or I bolt the fuck out, deploying backwards the most I can, luckily your savages are even dumber than American savages and the cost of living plus the good things in da B outweigh any other option I have at the moment and sadly the way America is going I’m running out of places to lead a life I can afford and enjoy, fuck Perón, fuck classism, fuck Maradona & Fuck Kirchner Mafia & La Campora Gang , i love trains and planes but you’d rather catch me dead than on a train or on an Argie Al-Kampurah Aerolíneas plane…oh and don’t get me started with your romance with Venezuela & Irán….
the thing is... if you're oblivious to the real world you may end up in the NEXT WORLD so to speak if you're not careful with your belongings and luck wasn't on your side that specific day
Congratulations for the video! A few years ago I did a traffic count at the level crossings around Boulogne. I never thought you'd be interested in making a video about our commuter trains. I'll make a small observation: the Belgrano Norte line and the Urquiza line are operated by private companies, but under a concession regime. The locomotives, wagons, tracks and stations are property of the Argentine State. On the other hand, there are other commuter lines that are extensions of power lines. For example, on the Sarmiento Line, there are two diesel branches between Merlo and Lobos and between Moreno and Mercedes (I live near this branch). And the power line communicates Once with Moreno, passing through Merlo.
vivo en Ing.Adolfo Sourdeaux (una de las estaciones de este tren) y siempre lo uso para llegar a casi todos lados, es un tren muy bien conectado y actualmente las medidas de seguridad se reforzaron (policias y guardas), siempre fue un tren bien cuidado y es normal ver a los vendedores ambulantes, ademas que su frecuencia es alta y el 90% de las veces el tren cumple sus horarios (a pesar de los acciodentes y las reparaciones de las estaciones)
Many of Sydney's commuter trains used to have those wide-open doors until about the late '90s. Great air-conditioning on a hot Australian summer's day!
My congratulations for this video. During the ´80s this line operated by the push-pull system, so the engine was placed in the Villa Rosa direction. It pulled the train to Villa Rosa and then the train came back to Retiro pushed by the locomotive, driven from the last coach which had an operation cabin. At Retiro station you hadn´t walk enough to get into the train, because it stopped not far from the track stop. Unfortunately this system was abandoned beacuse of maintenance costs. An electric connection was necessary between every coach for driving the locomotive from the las cabin coach.
If you happen to visit India or Sri lanka; my motherland, you will see most of trains with doors open and passengers traveling on foot board which is actually a very common sight😎 And especially in Sri Lanka, you can witness many old diesel locomotives dating 50s-70s,still running well & fine on the island’s network.Cheers! Lovely video!
@@NiralaR0407 but Indian Railway has improved a lot and getting better everyday. When I travelled in India by trains, I loved their service & cleanliness on board of long distance intercity services. 😍
@@kanchanananayakkara8959 Thanks for acknowledging that. Many people outside India still think that the Indian Railways is dirty, decrepit and not good in terms of modern service when in reality, it has been improving a lot. There is still a long way to go, of course.
Great trip report! I almost had a heart attack watching, but the footage was worth the danger! Though, probably better standing there than sitting in those plastic seats.
Nice video my friend! The heart attack you get when you get a passing train on the other of the tracks when traveling at AEP section is from another world!
Well, I must say, you were lucky, you made your videos and managed to keep all your belongings :D haha. Thank for making us look good. Now we are all intrigued to see how your hometown looks like.
Hello, I am from the north of Argentina, in the littoral region of the province of Formosa. I saw the map in the minutes, 2:31 is somewhat outdated or outdated, at present here in my province no longer exist those trains and less in the small rural towns of my province and less here in the capital of the city of my province. There used to be those trains, passenger and freight trains, but nowadays there are none unfortunately due to the political and historical situation of our country at a national level, they only exist in the capital city of Buenos Aires and in the province of Buenos Aires, of those provinces there, in the center of the country, there are only trains in very few provinces, so please take care of yourself!
very similar to our trains in Uruguay...now we have only one small passenger line in the north of the country.....We hope to have a new passenger train system when they finish the renovation of tracks from the north to the south of the country next year.
I live in Uruguay most of the year and I enjoy watching your channel. I didn't know about the connection between your hometown and the town in the Buenos Aires region. I recenlty visited Vienna and saw a memorial plaque to San Martin on ArgentinaStrasse. Anyway, I'm glad you got to visit this corner of the world and take some interesting train rides. I saw your other ones about the trains in the Andes and Bariloche. Retiro Station is stunning, isn't it?
Great video my friend! Belgrano Norte is one of the best maintained lines here in Argentina, even being diesel still. Those G22 locomotives fly between Retiro station and Ciudad Universitaria at 90KMH or 60 MPH depending on where yo live.
Great trip. The train vibe feels like train in my country before it big revolution around late 2000-early 2010. In my country, this train called Local train who serve short and medium distance intercity trip.
Excellent Trip report and If you are wondering this Argentine Metre Gauge locomotive is related to a Yugoslav Railways 664 class locomotive due to them being a EMD GL22 type locomotive. Engine is the same as a CSX UP Norfolk Southern BNSF CN NJ Transit MBTA GO Transit 🇨🇦 SD40-2 GP38-2 F40PH & GP40 EMD645.
@@alecasosvello Absolutely correct and in Europe there are locomotives with that engine and successor EMD 710 examples are UK Class 66 German DB Baureihe 266
El Belgrano Norte está muy bien cuidado dentro de todo, podrías intentar suerte en el Mitre en el Victoria-Capilla que creo que es el que peor está actualmente, o en el Merlo-Lobos del Sarmiento, o el Haedo-Temperley del Roca, y aún así, no serían aventuras tipo las que vivimos en 2001, jajaja, es raro ver turistas comentando nuestros trenes, pero a la vez agradable porque nos damos cuenta de cómo nos ven desde afuera. Y sí, es una vergüenza que no exista una parada en el aeropuerto.
the best train in lstinoameria. I remember when I took it every morning to go to school. I still use that train every day of my life. punctual. the route is from the capital to the most rural areas. 9/10. It is not ten because it makes a lot of noise. but anyway if you come to argentina do not forget to take the belgrano norte and if you want to live an unprecedented experience visit the “grand bourg” station great city
Me and my family spend so much time watching ur argentina train videos!! You should check out the roca train line, and visit really pretty places like Ranelagh! make sure you’re taking Bosques-Q and you’ll be on your way to the many times awarded prettiest train station. It’s also home to Roberto de Vicenzo’s golf club, and it’s overall a really pretty english town :) Hope you keep enjoying Argentina and uploading these videos! Love from Ranelagh
@@helenheins4593 El Roca es la más extensa y compleja en cuando a transportes de pasajeros, pero ni de cerca es la más bonita, ni limpia y mucho menos cómoda. Los ramales diésel operan bajo frecuentes cancelaciones y demoras y con un material rodante que da pena, al igual que los Toshiba que piden urgentemente reparación general o reemplazo. También su complejidad en cuando al ramal Bosques y los servicios rápidos hacen que sean diarios los problemas de demoras, ya que un solo tren atrasado bloque la vía necesaria para otros trenes.
Traveling hanging from the train doors? Done that long time ago in the San Martin, I didn't realise back then how dangerous it was as I was just a stupid teenager and riding on doors was sort of thrilling and adventurous, I have hanged from the bus door too. Happy sillier teenager times.
Argentinians: "Let's escape reality for a while, I will watch some videos about trains from this french guy!" A couple of minutes later: "Oh the horror!"
Yo no veo ningún horror, es una línea de transportes de pasajeros operada por una empresa privada que puede no ser lo mejor de lo mejor pero cumple bastante bien para llevarte de un lado a otro.
Esto es Argentina papá! donde la gente viaja como quiere y como puede y a todo ritmo! This is Argentina dad! where people travel as they want and as they can and at full speed!
If you sometime run out of trip ideas, I would recommend you to try an express train in Lithuania Vilnius-Klaipėda model Pesa 730ML. It was the most clean and comfy train I've ever tried. Good luck from Lithuania🙂
I lived in Lithuania for a while and your trains are pretty nice, even the old Soviet RVR trainsets are spatious and well-kept. The only downsides are that frequencies are low outside the Vilnius-Kaunas corridor, and there is no international connection (except to Belarus/Russia, not the best choice...), although Rail Baltica will solve the latter issue once it is completed
Would you happen to know how many passengers fall off these moving trains? Years ago closed door policy was instituted on NJ Transit when a passenger fell off the train while the train was in motion. We used to run doors open on both sides of the train at one time. With newer equipment propulsion can't be made if there is an open door. Your videos are a great way to view transportation systems around the world.
hi, let me answer that. I use this train every day to go to work. Every 1 to 2 weeks there is some "person accident" in the line, with delays and cancelations. They only said "person accident" but can be a passenger falling off or a Suicide in a station, people here love to kill thenselves under the train. 2 years ago one happen in New years Eve, In the Station next to the one I took the train. Also there is a lot of robbers taking Cellphones or bags and runnning, some fall or push the victim off the train. Around 3 year ago they change the stations and the outside stairs of the doors, so people couldn't travel outside the door......Still people do it anyway or with the doors open, because some smoke during the travel. Also in the afternoon when is time of people coming back from work the train goes FULL like you can't drop a needle an hit the floor. So many travel hanging on the door handles. Hope this help, I can answer any other question you may have
LOL NO, it's literally the worst line in Buenos Aires. Maintenance-less, unsecure (both train and stations), fake time schedules (if they officialize cancellations or negative changes, the state regulator CNRT would penalty them, so they simply say 'delayed' train constantly), everyday a locomotive breaks in service, etc. As passenger, rail fan and rail administration student, I have lots of facts and stories about this. Not in vain the users recently nicknamed it the 'Belgrano Muerte' (Belgrano Death). The material (cars made by Fiat-Concord-Materfer Córdoba in the 70s and GM G22s mostly made by ASTARSA San Fernando between 1970-1990) is pretty amazing, resistant and durable, but it's almost destroyed by the bad administration of Ferrovías (one of the two private passenger operators still running, meant to leave the service before next year). Just imagine, the G22 with blue vent displayed in the video's picture is one rescued and restored by the state in 2012 for the Belgrano Sur line (Trenes Argentinos), later in 2016 ""borrowed"" (by dirty political moves) with another 3 locomotives until now to Ferrovías due to the line's tractive crysis (they left 12 of 24 trains out of order). I personally traveled by those years outside the train many times (like indian videos) and with ""delays"" of more than an hour, trains not stopping and overcrowded, breaks failures, and so on. Even in tunnel section they leave the lights out during the day, only to save on gasoline. They only keep running just because miraculously we didn't have another disaster like Once's tragedy -yet-. There are plans for this line, but for now if you look for quality check the other lines (they are more amazing and beautiful), not this one (sadly).
The line and infrastructure look a bit cleaner and better maintained than what I remember from seeing other Argentinian railway videos. The hassle of turning locos around twice at terminal stations on services operating at a 13-minute frequency must lead to horrendous inefficiencies.
@Life as we know it Aún así los CSR eléctricos están más sucios que la mayoría de estos coches del Belgrano Norte y todo el resto de la flota de coches diésel se caen a pedazos. Misma situación que los Toshibas del Roca. Ni hablemos de la poca profesionalidad que manejan para respetar las frecuencias e incluso avisar de un tren cancelado.
@Life as we know it That was by no means an "accident", it was a huge sabotage with incredibly vicious links to the liberalconservative political scene (Macri and his thugs)
Surely, you had a deja vu time Thibault...💃...Enjoyed the ride with you...I see so much of India in this train...🙃...Merci friend for enabling us to "travel" in such unseen places...Keep travelling...🛤
Merci, fascinating report! A couple notes: 2:58 It may also be that far because the platform height was too low near the station 4:08 "They have ample bicycle storage" - though apparently no place to lean/attach and lock a bike
Hola Vassil! Ese tren es bastante antiguo, en las otras lineas de trenes (linea Mitre, por ejemplo) podes encontrar donde colgar tu bicicleta. Saludos desde Buenos Aires! 😊
Usually the first or last wagon has no seats and has hooks for bikes. I never travel in those because is always full of, let's say "cuestionable people". You can smell weed (the cheap one that smells like pee), sometimes there's wine on the floor or some other kind of filth, anyways pretty dirty and unrespectful people with a chance of getting robbed if you're not one of them.
@@Andrewjg_89 It is time to treat the commuters as people and not as herings or sardines in a tin can. And secondly, it is time to bring some beauty to most off the british trains. I like trains, but in britain, most off them are in fact ugly.
The government pays the difference, because the salaries of those who travel by train are usually low. The same trains are always deficient. El gobierno paga la diferencia, porque los sueldos de los que viajan en tren suelen ser bajos. Igual los trenes siempre son deficitarios
this was the mos efective train during the privatization of all the lines from argentian trough the time most of them woluld be restatizad again ecept this one , i sopusose becoause the good job the company have done all this 25 years
Antes era bastante inseguro hace poco se mejoraron todas las estaciones y dentro de todos los trenes es bastante puntual, la para al aeropuerto lo más cercado es la parada de universidad de buenos Aires. Lo tomo todos los días y es tranquilo en los horarios no pico.
Thank you, I really enjoyed watching this. I liked and subscribed as well. These are the kind of upgrades I want to see on our own railways here in the Philippines. 😃
if you made one more train station, the one from Vice Alirante Montes on that route goes at a higher speed, . the longest route is from Del Viso to Villa Rosa.
Folks, for the first time in almost four years of Simply Railway, this is the first time where... THERE IS NO TOILETS TIME!!
Usually, toilets time is a critical criterion for me to decide if I'm recording the journey. This one is an exception (because of Boulogne Sur Mer)
Don't worry, there is way more Toilets Time to come ;)
Thibault
My friend, toilets are a no option in commuter services in Argentina due to security concerns of what may transpire in there: if they want to rob or rape you, pushing you inside a toilet and locking the door is perfect. Plus, health issues: perennial waste and foul odors due to lack of cleaning them. Therefore easier option is to remove them at all. Ironically, the Japanese EMUs which used to ran in other lines had available toilers until the early 90's. It seems civility has declined, as well as manners, in the past 30 years. Leave toilets for first world services
I guess since you have an open door, "Toilets Time" is anytime... LOL!!!
Thanks Thibault!
We forgive you! Besides, it was only 36 minutes and if I read that correctly, the fare was only 0.07 euros. Not enough to cover the cost of the toilet paper.
Those coachs originally where produced by Werkspoor company and Fiat/Materfer company. The coachs had toilets at national company Ferrocarriles Argentinos time. Even they had the Push & Pull system. The engine on one top and a cabin at the opposite top. Like is used in San Francisco.
Well not the first time, remember, there was no Toilets Time in your video about RTD Commuter Rail :) love your vids, keep the great content coming!
gracias vieja por hacerme del club atlético ferrocaril belgrano norte 🙏🏻
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I took this line a couple of times, back when the Mitre Line had problems almost every day. I was told to be wary of pickpocketers, and sure it was, the passengers caught one and promptly threw him out of the moving train! Fortunately for the man, it wasn't running at high speed, so he wasn't hurt.
Jajajaja, pasajeros agarran a un chorro y lo tiran con el tren en movimiento. No puedo para de imaginármelo, jaja.
Luckily for you this didn't happen in France. That thief would've sued you XD
fortunately for the man? hell naw, they should've thrown him under the train
*Unfortunately
The turnover of the locomotive only happens on sundays and holidays, because they have to use the shift machine at the end of the track, so they park the train a little further away. The rest of the days, when the service has more frecuency, there is always another locomotive parked in the station ready to be hooked up to an incoming train. That locomotive was left there by the previous train, and so on. So, you only have to walk that far on sundays and holidays.
I hope you keep making videos on Argentinian railways, my personal daily commute is in the Roca line, to the south of buenos aires, and i've developed a strong love/hate relationship with it.
You literally passed through 3 blocks away from my home! There were plans to elctrify this line a couple of years ago, as well as the San Martín Line, but intentions were dropped as a consequence of our local economic crisis, nowadays the only news for this line is that the Goverment wont extend Ferrovías's concession and therefore this line will also be public operated.
The concession not being extended is solely based on someone like Javier Milei not winning the 2023 election and ending all concessions by privatising the entire railway network (again) by getting the government out of the way...
I guess Argentina is sufferring worst economic crisis.
As far as railways are concerned..they can turn towards india as indian railways too were loss making once upon a time but in last few years they have improved significantly in terms.of speed, infra, electrification and new models..
And all this at a very sustainable cost
@@kishoremali5547 Nowadays the crisis has become worse, but the lack of economic growth has been here since 2011 at least. I don´t see that happening -Major change in operations- in the future due to cultural barriers, If you announce privatization of railways (as it was announced in the 90s) you will have a social crisis with massive protests as a major part of the society demands that this kind of services must be public-operated. Not the greatest idea if you see the major losses and inneficiency Trenes Argentinos has nowadays. It is more complex but I think that explains a bit why there are 50 years old trains still running everyday local services.
@@kishoremali5547 Who told you Indian Railways is not making loss as of now. We spend about 131 rupees for every 100 rupees we earn. It's true that there has been a massive influx of capital in the railway to the tunes of billions of dollars but all that is been done with the hopes that we would one day make money. The delays the projects suffers won't let that happen. Taking example of high speed rail project the estimated cost of 100,000 crores ($12.5 billion) has risen to 150,000 crores ($18 billion) and that just one project. There are projects that delayed for over 300 months. We don't feel it because our economy is strong but it won't always be the case.
@@mukulbajpai6190 hello...i am not here for a fist fight in an intl forum.
My point here was indian railway is pretty decentralised and making profits in Silos.
Also there is a plan to privatise some routes to make it profitable which as usual is being opposed by communist assholes.
Also indian railway dedicated freight corridor is commencing up in 2023 which will free up passenger train routes making it more.speedy and introduce more new wagons like vande bharat trains etc. As well the freight revenue too will go up which currently loses out to highways.
Bullet trains toi are coming to Indua.
In nutshell i am saying indian govt has the appetite to make railways work. ALSO we no more import engines and wagons as most of them are made in India at effective prices.
We are also expanding railways to North East which is most rugged and Slushy terrain owing to rough weather.
We can very well export our tech, wagons, Engines To Latam nations like argentina, chile, brazil . They too will benefit.
To better understand how poor state Argentine railways is...try exploring the Patagonia routes which has immensely old infra almost 50 years and they dont have money even to keep the trains running Let alone electrify it.
Mi padre se radicó en Boulogne en 1954. Mi mamá, que aún vive, en 1949. Papá trabajó 37 años en esta línea. Su padrastro fue guarda trenes durante 42. Nací en Boulogne y viví hasta los 27 años allí. Luego, durante otros 27 en Aristóbulo del Valle. Escribí mucho sobre la historia de esta increíble línea. Inaugurada en 1909 circuló durante unos años sobre el río de la Plata en un viaducto de cerca de 10 kms. Solo conozco dos fotos, ya que tuvo corta duración.
Man I love trains, I love your content, I took the Belgrano Norte everyday for like 9 years to come back from school and university, a piece of my heart is with that train, so I i'm glad you have been able to ride it!
I lived near one of this train stops my whole life and watching someone have such a different perspective and experience with it is rather entertaining.
hope you have a hot dog from the retiro station, they're the best.
Saludos de Grand Bourg, ciudad y estación de la linea belgrano norte, la misma del video 😁
jskajksjkajjaja saludos de Tortu city mi reyyy
@@juliangodoy778 aguante tortu carajo!
It would be very interesting to build a new station at Jorge Newbery Airport (Aeroparque), connected through a tunnel under the runaway to the terminal, which is at the opposite side of the railway tracks.
but never builted
One of the best Railroad in Argentina
not at all man hahahaha
espera ¿vos no sos el de simulacion argentina o algo así?
I take this train everyday! I didn't expect to see it in my yt feed being documented by someone of a different country, awesome ❤
i live in boulogne sur mer buenos aires and i follow your videos, if i knew you were coming i would have hosted you with an asado! cheers!
Es un gren Argentino el Belgrano sale Retiro hasta estacion Villa Rosa No creo este tren valla 230km por Hora JaJa
I'm glad you liked the experience of riding on the door of the train, it's really cool, around 6PM the views are amazing. ;) Usually the train workers go through all of the wagons in order to make sure all the doors are closed, except when it's really crowded.
Think Mumbai's commuter rail is like that also; apparently older trains have doors too but they're left open even when the train is moving so as to speed up boarding/alighting at stations
Boulogne sur mer ! Je savais pas qu'on pouvait y aller aussi facilement depuis buenos aires !
... et en seulement 36 minutes! 😁
En boulogne que sur mer Francia ..fallecio el Libertador de Argentina y Sudamérica el general San Martín en agosto del año 1850..clement ..🤗🤗🙄..Saludos desde mar del plata Argentina.
Ok, some comments to add and better comprehend the environment
1) Argentina did privatise its railway operations in the 90's and Ferrovias is one, alongside Metrovias in the Urquiza line, of the last survivors. They have been neglecting the upkeep in the past five years, due to contract expiration to happen shortly, but previous to that they were considered one of the most punctual and reliable metropolitan operators
2) during the 90's most (not to say all) long distance services were discontinued and a lot of rolling stock was available to use for urban service so it was refitted for that use, that's why you see same type of coach
3) until 2017, this service had low floor platforms and Saldias is one of the last stations under refurbishment to elevate such platforms
4) in the past weeks a Chinese proposal was received to fully modernise this line including electrification and EMUs
5) not being under direct management by the State meant that this line received less attention in rolling stock and infrastructure than fully managed ones such as line San Martin or Mitre, to cite a few
6) seats tend to be easily vandalised so authorities decided to make them sturdier and harder to destroy, disregarding or not caring at all about passenger experience (toilets come on that line of reasoning too)
7) not long ago a new station was devised for Aeroparque but civil aviation authority never was fully on board the project and objected that it demanded high investments and it posed a significant risk to security due to potential bombings (as if stations in airports were something very rare in the rest of the world these days 🙄)
8) it was a miracle nobody tried to snatch your camera or phone while on such public display, you should have been more careful
I love to see the Belgrano Norte represented in any way!
We (me and my band El Fracaso) filmed the travel from Boulogne Sur Mer to Grand Bourg in our full album video, it sure is an interesting journey!
Thank you so much for this
I noticed how clean the rail stations where and how clean the interior and exterior of the train appeared.
No one seemed to walking around staring at their cellphones totally oblivious to the real world. What a nice change.
The lack of people immersing “in their world” thru their phones is most likely due to the fact that you have to be on your P’s & Q’s constantly down here in BA or the thieves will eat you alive, especially being European/American and naive, and looking the part. But they don’t discriminate, they will stick up any local poor worker if they have the chance, and that goes tenfold if you’re a tourist inside a train, luckily he went northbound from Retiro and not southbound from Constitución cause it’s way rougher in that terminal, and we’d prolly wouldn’t have any cool video. I’m glad Thibaut had the balls, I haven’t rode an Argie train in almost 25 years even though I spend most of my time in Buenos Aires and I’m a train enthusiast….white privilege 😂
Most people don't take their mobile phones because of pickpocketers. If you open the windows, you keep your valuables in your bag or purse, away from "friends of the foreign"
@@ruste9565 As in every mega metropolis in the world there are thieves. But that's not why you don't get on the train.
You do not get on the train because you are fearful or prejudiced.
Have you taken the Mitre train to Tigre? You cannot say that people there are afraid. Neither on the Mitre line, nor on the Urquiza line, nor on the Roca line. The Ferrovías diesel train may go to "dangerous" areas.
@@juanguillermoaraujodiazcol449 I’ve been kidnapped in NYC and robbed in Boston and countless other metropolis, both in the states and Europe, what you say is true but is the other way round prejudice and classism are naturalized in Peroncho Argieland, and sadly classism is en vogue worldwide, one of the many reasons western civilization is falling, Argentina has not been part of the western civilization since you had the Fuxking Nazi ally Juan Domingo Perón and his personality dictatoriship which is still resounding nowadays, it’s even worse than the PRI in Mexico, and if shit doesn’t change you’ll have a Narco-state, which you sorta already do but it’s nothing compared to Mexico but you are on your way! Congrats I guess, this is what your people wanted, they didn’t even have to steal an election like the Demoncrats did, nonetheless you’re completely wrong on me being prejudiced, you don’t know me or know Jack shot about me, I judge a person by his character, as Martin Luther King said, it’d sad that in the year 2020 intellectuals have it backwards and judge by your position in the “victim hood pyramid” there were “pungas” in the 90s as well but I had no problem riding the trains back then and not northbound but westbound and southbound as well. Nowadays you have Pibe Chorros that are like 3rd-4th generation of a generation that’s based on all that is wrong and immoral, and have no moral compass, damn that has nothing to do with class as most RGs be them rich, poor or part of the ever-shrinking middle class R the ones who are brainwashed mindless drones that think any foreigner that looks the part (I’m white as fuck, can’t help it) is loaded are the riders nowadays, Argieland , if it had any opportunism to recover after General Perón’s fascism and the Leftard terrorists and the fucking Military Junta they brought in yhe 70s has completely lost its way after 2001, with these decade+ of Peronist Classist kleptomaniac gov’t; which makes me a target just for being white and foreign, which makes me a target since they assume I’m loaded cause I’m white and don’t like to dress down, a thing that never happened in yhe 90s when I lived down here for a long time as well; luckily I’m well off by Argie standards, one of the reasons I stay here since the western world is so ticked up, I’d rather be well off here for now, though I reckon I’ll have to leave to Panama or Namibia some day, even though I’m poor by Euro standards I can lead a quite nice life here and thanks to your fucking protectionism government I can make a living down here and I don’t need to take the train nowadays I can be chauffeured around and live in a very “cheto” area making an ammount that wouldn’t even let me rent a place of my own in The Bronx. Funny how you only mention the posh stations from “Zona Norte”; I lived in section 8 in the states, that’s what you fucking Argies don’t understand, being white and having nice clothes and an iPhone doesn’t make anyone “rich” in the real world only in Argieland, sadly Chile & Colombia have gone to the gutter as well, cause I love Latin America, and yeah if I just took a train once in a while there’s a 90% chance nothing would happen to me, but if I had to do it every day like a regular joe that has a 9 to 5 it’d be just a matter of time.
Your gun laws are atrocious as well, it’s what the demoncrats want to do in the states, luckily I’m packing something that’s pseudo-legal anywhere in da B I go (unless it’s work related you won’t see me step a foot in da Congo-Urbano, even Zona Norte) and it saved my ass quite a few times without me even having to deploy it; as you can see I’m full of hate and anger, especially if a pibe chorro thinks I’m sweet and tries to do his thang I deploy, kick the fucker in the nuts and have the good Argies coming to help me or I bolt the fuck out, deploying backwards the most I can, luckily your savages are even dumber than American savages and the cost of living plus the good things in da B outweigh any other option I have at the moment and sadly the way America is going I’m running out of places to lead a life I can afford and enjoy, fuck Perón, fuck classism, fuck Maradona & Fuck Kirchner Mafia & La Campora Gang , i love trains and planes but you’d rather catch me dead than on a train or on an Argie Al-Kampurah Aerolíneas plane…oh and don’t get me started with your romance with Venezuela & Irán….
the thing is... if you're oblivious to the real world you may end up in the NEXT WORLD so to speak if you're not careful with your belongings and luck wasn't on your side that specific day
Congratulations for the video! A few years ago I did a traffic count at the level crossings around Boulogne. I never thought you'd be interested in making a video about our commuter trains. I'll make a small observation: the Belgrano Norte line and the Urquiza line are operated by private companies, but under a concession regime. The locomotives, wagons, tracks and stations are property of the Argentine State. On the other hand, there are other commuter lines that are extensions of power lines. For example, on the Sarmiento Line, there are two diesel branches between Merlo and Lobos and between Moreno and Mercedes (I live near this branch). And the power line communicates Once with Moreno, passing through Merlo.
Lindo trem 🚉 simply show trem da Argentina 🇦🇷 show bom
lo que más me gusta del Belgrano norte es ciudad universitaria 💓 en 20 minutos ya estoy en la facultad 😆💫
Que recorrido haces? Yo voy de estación nogues hasta ciudad universitaria y tengo 45 minutos
That's so cool! I'm from Argentina, and I went to Boulogne-sur-mer in France last summer. Great videos!
vivo en Ing.Adolfo Sourdeaux (una de las estaciones de este tren) y siempre lo uso para llegar a casi todos lados, es un tren muy bien conectado y actualmente las medidas de seguridad se reforzaron (policias y guardas), siempre fue un tren bien cuidado y es normal ver a los vendedores ambulantes, ademas que su frecuencia es alta y el 90% de las veces el tren cumple sus horarios (a pesar de los acciodentes y las reparaciones de las estaciones)
Many of Sydney's commuter trains used to have those wide-open doors until about the late '90s. Great air-conditioning on a hot Australian summer's day!
Sydney used to have summer!?
My congratulations for this video. During the ´80s this line operated by the push-pull system, so the engine was placed in the Villa Rosa direction. It pulled the train to Villa Rosa and then the train came back to Retiro pushed by the locomotive, driven from the last coach which had an operation cabin. At Retiro station you hadn´t walk enough to get into the train, because it stopped not far from the track stop. Unfortunately this system was abandoned beacuse of maintenance costs. An electric connection was necessary between every coach for driving the locomotive from the las cabin coach.
Interesting diesel hauled commuter line. NJTransit has several similar lines
Sorry the seats were hard and no a/c
Thanks Thibault for the review😀💚
¡¡¡Qué bueno Thibault!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🇫🇷🇦🇷
If you happen to visit India or Sri lanka; my motherland, you will see most of trains with doors open and passengers traveling on foot board which is actually a very common sight😎
And especially in Sri Lanka, you can witness many old diesel locomotives dating 50s-70s,still running well & fine on the island’s network.Cheers!
Lovely video!
Most of the trains in India are having open doors with a max speed of 130km hr
@@NiralaR0407 but Indian Railway has improved a lot and getting better everyday. When I travelled in India by trains, I loved their service & cleanliness on board of long distance intercity services. 😍
Yes, true. I would love to visit Sri Lanka once.
@@kanchanananayakkara8959
Thanks for acknowledging that. Many people outside India still think that the Indian Railways is dirty, decrepit and not good in terms of modern service when in reality, it has been improving a lot. There is still a long way to go, of course.
As a daily user of the line i loved the video :)
Great trip report! I almost had a heart attack watching, but the footage was worth the danger! Though, probably better standing there than sitting in those plastic seats.
Argentina papaaaaaaa
Nice video my friend! The heart attack you get when you get a passing train on the other of the tracks when traveling at AEP section is from another world!
Well, I must say, you were lucky, you made your videos and managed to keep all your belongings :D haha. Thank for making us look good. Now we are all intrigued to see how your hometown looks like.
People selling stuff on board trains is a quite common thing, u cang get sandwiches, candy or even headphones
Hello, I am from the north of Argentina, in the littoral region of the province of Formosa.
I saw the map in the minutes, 2:31 is somewhat outdated or outdated, at present here in my province no longer exist those trains and less in the small rural towns of my province and less here in the capital of the city of my province.
There used to be those trains, passenger and freight trains, but nowadays there are none unfortunately due to the political and historical situation of our country at a national level, they only exist in the capital city of Buenos Aires and in the province of Buenos Aires, of those provinces there, in the center of the country, there are only trains in very few provinces, so please take care of yourself!
🤦♂️
very similar to our trains in Uruguay...now we have only one small passenger line in the north of the country.....We hope to have a new passenger train system when they finish the renovation of tracks from the north to the south of the country next year.
I live in Uruguay most of the year and I enjoy watching your channel. I didn't know about the connection between your hometown and the town in the Buenos Aires region. I recenlty visited Vienna and saw a memorial plaque to San Martin on ArgentinaStrasse. Anyway, I'm glad you got to visit this corner of the world and take some interesting train rides. I saw your other ones about the trains in the Andes and Bariloche. Retiro Station is stunning, isn't it?
¿En Uruguay hay trenes?
Argentinierstrasse, tambien hay una placa recordando la ayuda con alimentos durante la WWI
Thank you for this amazing channel. I will suscribe
AGUANTE ARGENTINA CARAJO
¡¡¡¡¡TAL CUAL PATO MAKEK!!!!!
UN SALUDO .
@@ornella1665 HOLA ORNELLA, UN SALUDO DESDE ARGENTINA EL MEJOR PAÍS, SALUDOS.
VAMOS A TOMAR UN MATE A LA ESTACIÓN VILLA ROSA
Great video my friend! Belgrano Norte is one of the best maintained lines here in Argentina, even being diesel still. Those G22 locomotives fly between Retiro station and Ciudad Universitaria at 90KMH or 60 MPH depending on where yo live.
Great trip. The train vibe feels like train in my country before it big revolution around late 2000-early 2010. In my country, this train called Local train who serve short and medium distance intercity trip.
JAJAJAJA COMO AMO A MI PAIS! JAJAJAJAJA HERMOSO VIAJAR TODOS LOS DIAS EN ESE TREN!
Pq se reía q le pasaba
Hi man...I am a Follower from Boulogne Sur Mer (San Isidro-Argentina)! You are a hero filming in this train!
Marcelo Soto is my friend, I am subscribed to your channel I see all your videos from Argentina congratulations very, very good videos
Excellent Trip report and If you are wondering this Argentine Metre Gauge locomotive is related to a Yugoslav Railways 664 class locomotive due to them being a EMD GL22 type locomotive. Engine is the same as a CSX UP Norfolk Southern BNSF CN NJ Transit MBTA GO Transit 🇨🇦 SD40-2 GP38-2 F40PH & GP40 EMD645.
Hi, the engine is the same, the EMD 643E3, in this case (G22CU) 12-643E3, in the case of the SD40-2 is 16-643E3.
@@alecasosvello Absolutely correct and in Europe there are locomotives with that engine and successor EMD 710 examples are UK Class 66 German DB Baureihe 266
Great video
Vamos argentinaaaaa
This is very beautiful ❤️
Great ride!
El Belgrano Norte está muy bien cuidado dentro de todo, podrías intentar suerte en el Mitre en el Victoria-Capilla que creo que es el que peor está actualmente, o en el Merlo-Lobos del Sarmiento, o el Haedo-Temperley del Roca, y aún así, no serían aventuras tipo las que vivimos en 2001, jajaja, es raro ver turistas comentando nuestros trenes, pero a la vez agradable porque nos damos cuenta de cómo nos ven desde afuera. Y sí, es una vergüenza que no exista una parada en el aeropuerto.
You must try Indonesian Railway someday, it's must become a great experience
Boulogne papá
hola que bueno que viniste a la argentina me alegro mucho !!!!!!!!! bienvenido !!!!!!
First time I took the Belgrano Norte I did the exact same route
It's an old diesel train but it still has more bike storage and much better frequencies than our commuter trains in the Milan area.
Me comia un pancho en Retiro antes de subir al tren y al llegar al legar a Grand Bourg me comia un chory que lindo recuerdos.
the best train in lstinoameria. I remember when I took it every morning to go to school. I still use that train every day of my life. punctual. the route is from the capital to the most rural areas. 9/10. It is not ten because it makes a lot of noise. but anyway if you come to argentina do not forget to take the belgrano norte and if you want to live an unprecedented experience visit the “grand bourg” station great city
Me and my family spend so much time watching ur argentina train videos!! You should check out the roca train line, and visit really pretty places like Ranelagh! make sure you’re taking Bosques-Q and you’ll be on your way to the many times awarded prettiest train station. It’s also home to Roberto de Vicenzo’s golf club, and it’s overall a really pretty english town :)
Hope you keep enjoying Argentina and uploading these videos! Love from Ranelagh
By the way, I believe Roca to be the prettiest, cleanest, and most comfortable commuting line in Buenos Aires, so it’s definitely worth a try!
@@helenheins4593 El Roca es la más extensa y compleja en cuando a transportes de pasajeros, pero ni de cerca es la más bonita, ni limpia y mucho menos cómoda. Los ramales diésel operan bajo frecuentes cancelaciones y demoras y con un material rodante que da pena, al igual que los Toshiba que piden urgentemente reparación general o reemplazo. También su complejidad en cuando al ramal Bosques y los servicios rápidos hacen que sean diarios los problemas de demoras, ya que un solo tren atrasado bloque la vía necesaria para otros trenes.
Yes, the Estacion Retiro Belgrano Norte is a pretty nice station for a commuter line.
Now that was a great experience! Thanks.
Traveling hanging from the train doors? Done that long time ago in the San Martin, I didn't realise back then how dangerous it was as I was just a stupid teenager and riding on doors was sort of thrilling and adventurous, I have hanged from the bus door too. Happy sillier teenager times.
Argentinians: "Let's escape reality for a while, I will watch some videos about trains from this french guy!"
A couple of minutes later: "Oh the horror!"
Yo no veo ningún horror, es una línea de transportes de pasajeros operada por una empresa privada que puede no ser lo mejor de lo mejor pero cumple bastante bien para llevarte de un lado a otro.
@@nosveranvolver Eso.
@@nosveranvolver oof
Great trip report
Esto es Argentina papá! donde la gente viaja como quiere y como puede y a todo ritmo!
This is Argentina dad! where people travel as they want and as they can and at full speed!
Thank you, very nice clip.
Remember that, this railway is operated by a Private operator, Trenes Argentinos is from the state!
If you sometime run out of trip ideas, I would recommend you to try an express train in Lithuania Vilnius-Klaipėda model Pesa 730ML. It was the most clean and comfy train I've ever tried. Good luck from Lithuania🙂
I lived in Lithuania for a while and your trains are pretty nice, even the old Soviet RVR trainsets are spatious and well-kept.
The only downsides are that frequencies are low outside the Vilnius-Kaunas corridor, and there is no international connection (except to Belarus/Russia, not the best choice...), although Rail Baltica will solve the latter issue once it is completed
Y en los furgones si estas con suerte podes rescatar una tuca
Hello from Kansas 🇺🇸
Would you happen to know how many passengers fall off these moving trains? Years ago closed door policy was instituted on NJ Transit when a passenger fell off the train while the train was in motion. We used to run doors open on both sides of the train at one time. With newer equipment propulsion can't be made if there is an open door. Your videos are a great way to view transportation systems around the world.
hi, let me answer that. I use this train every day to go to work. Every 1 to 2 weeks there is some "person accident" in the line, with delays and cancelations. They only said "person accident" but can be a passenger falling off or a Suicide in a station, people here love to kill thenselves under the train. 2 years ago one happen in New years Eve, In the Station next to the one I took the train.
Also there is a lot of robbers taking Cellphones or bags and runnning, some fall or push the victim off the train. Around 3 year ago they change the stations and the outside stairs of the doors, so people couldn't travel outside the door......Still people do it anyway or with the doors open, because some smoke during the travel. Also in the afternoon when is time of people coming back from work the train goes FULL like you can't drop a needle an hit the floor. So many travel hanging on the door handles.
Hope this help, I can answer any other question you may have
also during a robbery either the criminal or the victim can fall from the train, either because tripped or was thrown away
I'm watching the video while coming back home in that same train xd
Saludos desde Don Torcuato partido de tigre buenos aires
All aboard!!!!!
Near my home haha, lik your video!
In the Mitre line the trains are far better!! Nice review man
jajajaja amé el video, saludos desde
This train should be an example for many operators in Europe, frequency is the most important thing
LOL NO, it's literally the worst line in Buenos Aires. Maintenance-less, unsecure (both train and stations), fake time schedules (if they officialize cancellations or negative changes, the state regulator CNRT would penalty them, so they simply say 'delayed' train constantly), everyday a locomotive breaks in service, etc. As passenger, rail fan and rail administration student, I have lots of facts and stories about this. Not in vain the users recently nicknamed it the 'Belgrano Muerte' (Belgrano Death). The material (cars made by Fiat-Concord-Materfer Córdoba in the 70s and GM G22s mostly made by ASTARSA San Fernando between 1970-1990) is pretty amazing, resistant and durable, but it's almost destroyed by the bad administration of Ferrovías (one of the two private passenger operators still running, meant to leave the service before next year). Just imagine, the G22 with blue vent displayed in the video's picture is one rescued and restored by the state in 2012 for the Belgrano Sur line (Trenes Argentinos), later in 2016 ""borrowed"" (by dirty political moves) with another 3 locomotives until now to Ferrovías due to the line's tractive crysis (they left 12 of 24 trains out of order). I personally traveled by those years outside the train many times (like indian videos) and with ""delays"" of more than an hour, trains not stopping and overcrowded, breaks failures, and so on. Even in tunnel section they leave the lights out during the day, only to save on gasoline. They only keep running just because miraculously we didn't have another disaster like Once's tragedy -yet-. There are plans for this line, but for now if you look for quality check the other lines (they are more amazing and beautiful), not this one (sadly).
maybe it meant as a BAD example? lol
@@GarkKahn Despite the terrible service and reliability, I still think that such a high frequence for a narrow gauge commuter line remains impressive
The line and infrastructure look a bit cleaner and better maintained than what I remember from seeing other Argentinian railway videos.
The hassle of turning locos around twice at terminal stations on services operating at a 13-minute frequency must lead to horrendous inefficiencies.
@Life as we know it Aún así los CSR eléctricos están más sucios que la mayoría de estos coches del Belgrano Norte y todo el resto de la flota de coches diésel se caen a pedazos. Misma situación que los Toshibas del Roca. Ni hablemos de la poca profesionalidad que manejan para respetar las frecuencias e incluso avisar de un tren cancelado.
@Life as we know it That was by no means an "accident", it was a huge sabotage with incredibly vicious links to the liberalconservative political scene (Macri and his thugs)
✨el rojito ✨
Surely, you had a deja vu time Thibault...💃...Enjoyed the ride with you...I see so much of India in this train...🙃...Merci friend for enabling us to "travel" in such unseen places...Keep travelling...🛤
Merci, fascinating report! A couple notes:
2:58 It may also be that far because the platform height was too low near the station
4:08 "They have ample bicycle storage" - though apparently no place to lean/attach and lock a bike
Hola Vassil! Ese tren es bastante antiguo, en las otras lineas de trenes (linea Mitre, por ejemplo) podes encontrar donde colgar tu bicicleta. Saludos desde Buenos Aires! 😊
Usually the first or last wagon has no seats and has hooks for bikes. I never travel in those because is always full of, let's say "cuestionable people". You can smell weed (the cheap one that smells like pee), sometimes there's wine on the floor or some other kind of filth, anyways pretty dirty and unrespectful people with a chance of getting robbed if you're not one of them.
Viajar a las 7 am es la verdad del Belgrano Norte
You should consider going on Mexico's Chihuahua al Pacifico train if you haven't so already
Nice. Liked it
Impressive and massive locomotives and the carriages do look really nice. Very nice. 😃
Are you kidding?
Why. You don't like them. Fair enough.
@@Andrewjg_89 It is time to treat the commuters as people and not as herings or sardines in a tin can. And secondly, it is time to bring some beauty to most off the british trains. I like trains, but in britain, most off them are in fact ugly.
@@rogeriomonteiro760 True.
Best beautiful sharing 👍😎🎁
Vamos Boulogne Sur Mer!!
Nice video, but...€ 0,07 for a ride!? Isn't there some mistake, perhaps in the conversion? 😳
The government pays the difference, because the salaries of those who travel by train are usually low. The same trains are always deficient. El gobierno paga la diferencia, porque los sueldos de los que viajan en tren suelen ser bajos. Igual los trenes siempre son deficitarios
Fare is subsidised by federal government plus evasion is high
Ok. Thanks 👍🏻
its because of the low value of the peso currency
this was the mos efective train during the privatization of all the lines from argentian trough the time most of them woluld be restatizad again ecept this one , i sopusose becoause the good job the company have done all this 25 years
Antes era bastante inseguro hace poco se mejoraron todas las estaciones y dentro de todos los trenes es bastante puntual, la para al aeropuerto lo más cercado es la parada de universidad de buenos Aires. Lo tomo todos los días y es tranquilo en los horarios no pico.
you should ride the Urquiza line!
cool
The shape of the passenger carriages are similar to British and Indian railways!
Thank you, I really enjoyed watching this. I liked and subscribed as well. These are the kind of upgrades I want to see on our own railways here in the Philippines. 😃
Not going to happen. The President's family has to have their shoes!!!!!! LOL
@@roger0929 but I just hope it will still happen. Will see, only time will tell.
saludos desde buenos aires tortuguitas :D
if you made one more train station, the one from Vice Alirante Montes on that route goes at a higher speed, . the longest route is from Del Viso to Villa Rosa.
How great seeing my city on your channel. Would have had you for asado!
Great and based, mate. I hope you enjoyed your visit to the best country in the world
Taking the train from point
A to point B is fun