TREN PATAGONICO - Argentina's most impressive train to the Andes
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- Опубликовано: 5 авг 2024
- Hola,
Welcome for this new trip report onboard #Argentina's most unique and impressive journey - The #TREN PATAGONICO will take you from the Atlantic coast to the heart of the Andes in #Bariloche
Enjoy :)
- TRIP INFORMATION -
RECORDED IN MARCH 2022
Railroad company: Tren Patagónico
Train type : GT22 #9070 and Hitachi (I guess) coaches
From : Viedma to San Carlos de Bariloche
Time : 18h28 - I WROTE 16H28 IN THE INTRO
Price : 3294 ARS - 25€ - $27
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00:00 : Introduction
01:27 : Viedma
01:56 : The mighty TREN PATAGONICO
02:57 : Chilling at the terminal
03:42 : Our engine is getting ready
04:45 : Boarding the Pullman class
05:44 : Seat check
06:54 : Departure from Viedma
07:41 : Rustic mean fresh air
08:04 : Reservation for the dining car
08:31 : The VAST plain of Northern Patagonia
09:28 : Dusty sunset
10:04 : Diner time !
11:42 : San Antonio Oeste
12:28 : A good night
13:30 : Waking up in Ing Jacobacci
13:52 : La Trochita
14:30 : Breakfast
14:51 : Mid roll ads
15:16 : Ascencion of the Andes
17:22 : Walkthrough of the train
20:05 : Toilets Time
20:37 : Walkthrough of the train #2
21:30 : EMD GT22
22:19 : Last stretch to Bariloche
24:02: The mighty Andes
25:07 : Approaching Bariloche
25:18 : Conclusion
25:57 : Outro
#ASMR
Thanks for transporting me to a place that i will likely never be able to see. As someone who is mobility limited, these adventures are a wonderful window to the world. Bless you!
I had the chance to do this journey almost 30 years ago when the whole leg Buenos Aires - Bariloche was available and it took 36hs (departing 22hs from BA, arriving 10hs in SCB the other day) and my most vivid memory is having dust all over my body, it took two baths to completely take it off. Also had the chance to take Trochita from Jacobacci to Esquel by the way.
This line was built due to a need in the late XIX century by the Argentine government to easily ferry troops to the Chilean border in case of a conflict (something which was closely avoided in 1902). It was paid by the central government but built by a private company.
When long distance passenger services stopped in March 1993, this service was transferred to the province of Rio Negro, whose lease is finishing shortly and there are rumours that the Central government is studying to recover it once again.
As expected, infrastructure is badly kept
This is the first train video I've seen that doesn't look over-fancy. It looks like the trains I took as a kid - just really normal and no-fuss.
Nice work. Thanks for keeping me deeply involved. Love from India. Indians are big fans of Argentina. mainly the soccer team.
Argentinian here (although living in France for a while). The engine of your train was made in Argentina under a GM licence, the rolling stock is Japanese (Hitachi, made in Japan the 1960s, previously used in the Buenos Aires commuter rail network). Sleeping cars and the autotrain were discontinued during the pandemic and they took advantage of the situation to refurbish/repair them - gossip is both should be back by the end of 2022. Thanks for this great video!
The engine is a EMD GT22CW-2 build by ASTARSA in Argentina under GM License in the 80's. The primer mover is EMD 12-645 E3 - 2300HP
Hola, soy de Argentina y la locomotora es marca y modelo: GENERAL MOTORS GT22CW, no es GT22CW-2 ya que este modelo es otro. Esta locomotora (GT22CW) tiene un motor marca y modelo: GM 12-645-E3, y la potencia de la locomotora es de 2475HP. Particularmente esta locomotora número 9070 fue fabricada en Mayo de 1988 bajo licencia de GM en el astillero ASTARSA ubicado en San Fernando, Provincia de Buenos Aires, Argentina, para la empresa ferroviaria estatal FERROCARRILES ARGENTINOS (que fue quien encargó a las GT22CW).
Saludos cordialmente desde Argentina!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello, I am from Argentina and the locomotive is a make and model: GENERAL MOTORS GT22CW, it is not GT22CW-2 since this model is another. This locomotive (GT22CW) has an engine make and model: GM 12-645-E3, and the power of the locomotive is 2475HP. Particularly this locomotive number 9070 was manufactured in May 1988 under license from GM at the ASTARSA shipyard located in San Fernando, Province of Buenos Aires, Argentina, for the state railway company FERROCARRILES ARGENTINOS (which was the one who commissioned the GT22CW).
Greetings cordially from Argentina!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Something I always find interesting about desert climates is how the landscape changes quite as elevation increases, which can clearly be seen during this trip. Also, the scenery during this trip really is remarkable and different from anything I've seen.
Lived in a desert climate all my life. There is a mountain (12K ft I believe) a half hour away. Watching the biome change is magic every time.
The reason is that humid winds from the Pacific Ocean leave most of the rain on the Chilean side. That's why the more to the west one goes, the greener the landscape becomes!
That's not a desert lmao, it's far closer to the US midwest and it's entirely covered in snow during winter.
Deserts do commonly get covered in snow, such as the ones in the southwest of the US. I think the region in the video is classified as a cold arid desert (BWk) by the Köppen climate classification, so it does count.
Oh, BTW, sleeper-cars are returning this june. Supposedely out since Covid measures back in 2020.
Oh man, that dusty sunset is the journey and view dreams are made of. Just wonderful
I'm amazed at how similar inland Argentina looks to Nevada and Northern California
We live in the same planet, man.
Regards from Argentina.
@@Argentus2009 sí, pero lo que está diciendo es que el paisaje se parece específicamente al de esos estados. No cualquier paisaje se replica en cualquier lado, obviamente...
@@vHumboldt77 Gracias, pero entendí a la primera.
La similitud de paisajes en sitios alejados entre sí es bastante común, sobre todo en diferentes hemisferios y con parecida latitud respecto a los polos.
Unforgetsble adventure!! I would also choose Pullman class for a trip this long.
The vibe is very chilled. Food in the dining car looked6 good. Sorry for the shaking but the roadbed isn't in good repair.
Thank you Thibault for posting this journey.😀😀💚💚
This scenery was gorgeous and this train trip was excellent 👍😊👍
Wow! Simple Railway it's SO amazing how You love traín travelling even the: not comfy, lonelyness, language...👍🏾
While I've been to Patagonia twice, I have not been fortunate to take this train yet.
I did take an overnight train between Buenos Aires and Mendoza in 1990. It's an absolute unforgivable tragedy that they abandoned one of the most comprehensive rail systems in the world back in 1993.
Mendoza no es de la Patagonia. Saludos!!!!
@@angelessol5320 lo que está diciendo son dos cosas distintas: que estuvo dos veces en la Patagonia y que el único tren interprovincial que tomó fue el que iba a Mendoza. Saludos.
@@vHumboldt77 gracias por aclararme te envío saludos!!! 😊
Culpa de menem.
@@vandal2816 los militares produjeron el desmantelamiento de miles de km de vias y y su mantenimeinto alla a finales de los 70, no te quedes con el que cerro la puerta de una empresa deficitaria y paria que no daba para mas solamente.
What an amazing and fascinating journey! I love that this train company is managing to run its own railway and tracks. Your carriage and dining car looked comfortable but the standard class carriages and their dining car were an eye-opener - it looked liked a big friendly family party even if the fittings looked ancient.
I wondered if there were other tourists and if there was a language issue.
There are other comments here about “The Old Patagonia Express” by Paul Theroux. His books about train travel are amazing even though they were written maybe 40 years ago.
And I was fascinated by the name of the little station “Vice Almirante O’Connor”. So I googled the name and he was a vice admiral in the Argentine navy, the grandson of an immigrant. Interesting to have a “station” named after him in the middle of a desert.
that man lead expeditions in the dessert bc we back then didn't knew what was out there and discovered many important places of the Patagonia. He was crucial to limit our borders with chile
I send you a huge appreciation because the report has been wonderful, many fine details. You have made a tour in the desert, entertaining. ¡AMAZING!
A small detail, for your information, although it is not significant to the spectacular video (I say it again) at minute: 16:24, "to climb the Andes" should say: crossing the "Patagónides". It is a mountain range different from the Andes, which are located from Bariloche to the west. Many greetings and I hope you had a nice time in Argentina, without any problem. I keep an eye on your posts.
Yo me estoy enterando ahora de que se llaman patagónides, jaja. Gracias por el dato.
Very impressive and wonderful video with lots of great scenery and amazing backdrop. Such a great experience to travel on those trains in Argentina, South America.
Lindo trem da Argentina gostei simply boa viagem ai boa madrugada ai simply trem 🚆 patagonico Argentina
THANK YOU so much for uploading this and for your positive and honest comments on the train and the trip. You're most welcome to come back here! PS: the reason for western Patagonia to be greener and leafier than most of the rest of the region lies in the fact that the rain loaded clouds coming from the Pacific Ocean discharge all their water on the west side of the Andes (i.e. in Chile) leaving a lesser amount to the east of the mountain range. Luckily enough, we get something!
This really is an excellent journey, very laid back & chill indeed... and so inexpensive! You really have all the fun Thibault!
Very cool! Glad to see these things still exist!
Only one word to describe this journey.... WOW!
Fascinating train through an equally fascinating region! I’ve actually been to Argentina but never knew this train existed. If I ever get back there, I’d love to do this. Thanks for a truly enjoyable review!
@Simply Railway the Durango and Silverton Scenic Railway and the Combres Toltec Railway will definitely give you a history lesson on rail travel.
WARNING: Viewers of this video may find dramamine a necessity. While the carriage rocking is significant, the cinematographer has done his best to ensure a smooth picture. Thank you for your understanding.
Thank you for taking us on this train. I really enjoyed it!
I had never been interested in Argentina but I’ve been watching some videos from 2019 and a friend is going there in September. Now I want to visit Argentina! What an interesting and beautiful country.
P.S. What did you mean when you said put in 0 instead of the Passport letters when booking?
@Life as we know it Thanks very much!
@Life as we know it la inmigración europea se hizo principalmente a fines del siglo 19 (Años 1880-1900).
Wow, mate! Amazing trip and one of your finest videos too! I strongly recommend to make this trip in winter, landscape becomes totally different!
Yayyy... I've been looking forward to this, thank you! Cheers 😍
I love this Video Thank you so much!!! Greetings from Neuquén Patagonia, Argentina. 😀😘😘😘😘😘
Its a Beautiful Train Trip Coverage
I strongly suspect that rolling stock is a former Buenos Aires - Mar del Plata unit. Pullman coaches were made by Hitachi in Japan, the "Turista" ones, i believe they were made by Werkspoor in the Netherlands and the Locomotive can be an EMD GT22 or something like, all uses the EMD 645 turbo-diesel engine. They were used to be built in the Astarsa workshops under GM permission but some others came from GM's facility in La Grange, Illinois, even, some are said to arrive here from Canada.
I just beg Rio Negro's goverment keep them safe and nice.
Hola, la locomotora número 9070 de la empresa ferroviaria provincial SE.FE.PA (actualmente llamada por temas turísticos TREN PATAGONICO SOCIEDAD ANÓNIMA) es una locomotora marca y modelo GM GT22CW fabricada en Mayo de 1988 en el astillero ASTARSA, en la ciudad de San Fernando, provincia de Buenos Aires, Argentina.El motor de las locomotoras GT22CW es marca y modelo: GM 12-645-E3.
Del modelo GT22CW se fabricaron (únicamente para Argentina) 104 locomotoras, de las cuales 40 fueron fabricadas por EMD en La Grange, Illinois, Estados Unidos, y las otras restantes 64 fueron fabricadas en ASTARSA, San Fernando, Buenos Aires, Argentina.
Lo que vos decís de que se trajeron locomotoras de Canadá son otro modelo, es el modelo GT22CW-2, que no tiene relación con el modelo GT22CW. Se fabricaron 15 GT22CW-2 en el año 1997 para una empresa ferroviaria privada.
Saludos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello, locomotive number 9070 of the provincial railway company SE.FE.PA (currently called TREN PATAGONICO SOCIEDAD ANÓNIMA for tourist reasons) is a GM GT22CW locomotive made in May 1988 at the ASTARSA shipyard, in the city of San Fernando, province of Buenos Aires, Argentina. The engine of the GT22CW locomotives is make and model: GM 12-645-E3.
Of the GT22CW model, 104 locomotives were manufactured (only for Argentina), of which 40 were manufactured by EMD in La Grange, Illinois, United States, and the other remaining 64 were manufactured in ASTARSA, San Fernando, Buenos Aires, Argentina.
What you say that locomotives were brought from Canada are another model, it is the GT22CW-2 model, which is not related to the GT22CW model. 15 GT22CW-2s were built in 1997 for a private railway company.
Cheers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What a great trip. Beautiful landscape, with some classic train vibe.
Buen video, saludos desde Chile
Wow, this train is amazing ! Great video :)
Argentina my beloved ♥️
Thanks wonderful clip, enjoyed
Beautiful...
Thank you for transporting me to such a nice place. A nice experience. Greetings from a Railway fan from Greece.
What a wonderful adventure, thank you for uploading this! Reminds me of a train journey through northern Spain, many years ago.
excellent presentation. thank you
Hey! We have arid & semiarid landscapes in 🇪🇸 in the provinces of Almeria, Murcia & Alicante (Alacant in valenciano) 😉
Yes, beautiful,but here Is 800km of nothing! Literally! And also one of the coldest places with -35° récord in 1991 i. Maquinchao (one of the stations where this train stops)
Your reviews always make me smile. How I envy you! 😊❤
I've been loving your South American Train sagas and I was wondering when you'll review the one in Chile and on up through Colombia?
Nice places.
wow nice video
The vast plains, as you also call them, look so appealing. At least from a train perspective 😁
Excelente vídeo, he viajado y pronto viajaré de nuevo, he mirado varios vídeos pero el tuyo es de los mejores. Felicitaciones.
Until the 1990s there were services from Buenos Aires (Estacion Constitucion) to Bariloche. And so many passenger services to the main cities in Argentina that were lost due to bad transport policy. Little by little they are returning but there is a lot of work to modernize the railroads that have exceeded their useful life so that the average speed returns to the 80-100 km/h of the past. Regards!
Si es verdad, Menem, un presidente de Argentina con mente del neoliberalismo de la década de 1990, fue serrando ramales, quitando trenes de pasajeros de la empresa FERROCARRILES ARGENTINOS (sobretodo en 1993), destruyó a la única empresa ferroviaria estatal y que fue la más grande de Argentina (FERROCARRILES ARGENTINOS) que existía desde el año 1948 y que Menem la destruyó en 1995, despidió de la empresa FERROCARRILES ARGENTINOS miles de personas, gracias a Menem más de 800 pueblos desparecieron con la falta del tren, fue creando empresas ferroviarias privadas que fueron rompiendo trenes; locomotoras; vías; hubieron accidentes en los que murieron cientos de personas y han habido en total miles de accidentados, etc...
Saludos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If it is true, Menem, a president of Argentina with a mind of neoliberalism in the 1990s, was sawing branches, removing passenger trains from the company FERROCARRILES ARGENTINOS (especially in 1993), destroying the only state railway company and that was the largest in Argentina (ARGENTINIAN RAILWAYS) that existed since 1948 and was destroyed by Menem in 1995, fired thousands of people from the company RAILWAYS ARGENTINOS, thanks to Menem more than 800 towns disappeared due to the lack of the train, he created railway companies private that were breaking trains; locomotives; pathways; there were accidents in which hundreds of people died and there have been a total of thousands of accident victims, etc...
Cheers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is one of your best yet. Great job, I am so envious!
trés beau train agentin merci simpli railway
Another fantastic trip with such beautiful scenery. The train look old but it gets where it's going! Thanks so much for sharing it with us.
The train is old and that makes it more attractive. Current long-distance trains circulate with other types of locomotives and cars that do not allow you to open the door. The Tren Patagónico convoy is unique and transports you to another world as it crosses the Patagonian steppe on the way to Bariloche.
Greetings.
Another great video of an epic trip!
16:02 not the Andes, but the Patagonides, an older chain. Andes starts with the lake.
Looks like an amazing train journey!!
wow! Impressive! Thank you for vibes from Patagonico!
That was and awesome trip sir !!! You have outdone your self again!!! :):):)
Another great video. Thank you!!
Excellent! Gave me a very clear impression about the vastness and emptiness of this part of Argentina. Thank you!
🚶✌️🚂👍
✋ Good job 👏👌🤝
Wow nice view, I like to see new places ✌
Great movie 👍 Bravo 👋
And I have a new movie from a walk around the city 😊
Regards, DJ Janusz from Warsaw Poland ✌ 🇵🇱✋
WoW, that was gorgeous! Thanks! 🙂
This is some epic content my friend , amazing!
Oh my, I hope they'll get the connecting train back. BTW nice video! (Plus,I also hope they get back the original sleeping cars with beds 😅
Nice video. Your 'Franglais' cracks me up Thibault 🤣🤣🤣
an excellent trip report ,so many wonderful places on this planet that i sadly will never get to visit ,still i have the vercors and the alps not far though no trains up to the vercors mountains !! LOL
Unforgettable experience
This is a real railway! 😁
And also please try the La Trochita later on. I heard it's great 👍
Nice video, bedroom car now is avaible. Winter and snow Is coming soon. Don' forget "la Trochita" in Jaccobacci station. Sorry my english is nota good
The Premium Coach looks comfortable with lots of leg room, but I need a private room for overnight travel.
Very nice
Interesting to see many Eucalyptus trees..... reminds me of home (Australia)
All the Eucalyptus trees here were imported from Australia back in the early XXth century :)🙂
Wonderful trip!!! Really really fascinating
You're are correct about sleeper cars on the Tren Patagónico. I rode on it last August from Bariloche to Viedma in a 1970s sleeping car in the middle of a blizzard., It was quite comfortable. I concur that the crew was top notch. I really enjoyed the old style dining car where I had interesting conversations with other passengers. Also, the cities of Viedma and Carmen de Patagones (Buenos Aires Province) across the Rio Negro river are definitely worth visiting on their own right. Thanks for sharing.
Viagem toooooooooopp
Thanks for sahre this places that I never seen before . Amazing ! Greetings from Brazil.
Hey bro, I'm from Buenos Aires and I´ve never been there (Tren Patagonico), I also visited Bariloche by car even on bus, from Buenos Aires is not easy to get this complete ride, more accesible is to get a bus ticket. You´re lucky to visit several places where tons of people here in my city won´t be able to reach ! And I see yoy´re a worldwide traveler, it´s a honor for us you choiced to visit our country !! Thank you and I hope all people here were polite and nice host for your trip. Best regards!
I love the video Thank you.
Excelent video. Thanks for sharing!
Excelent!
amazing job! thank you!!!!!!
Great video …..25 Euros for 19hrs in Pullman class - is there a better deal anywhere ? Evening across North Patagonia reminded me of coach across Northern Territories in Australia……miles upon miles of desert with a tiny curve on the horizon ……. When you get there dead straight road to the next horizon ! Retro buffet and dodgy ride quality reminded me of having high tea on the train from Southampton to London in the 70s…..without the steak and without the views !😊
Great job, my friend! You're a truly rail adventurer and I'm happy to find you and travel with you! Salutations de la Colombie ;) Keep doing this amazing job!
They are working on restoring the tracks between Viedma and Bahia Blanca so it will be connected with the rest of the network and Buenos Aires. Is a short distance so hopefully we'll see this happening in 1-2 years.
Another trip you should do Is Buenos Aires-Mar del Plata, its a very nice trip to a very beautiful city, and the trains on that trip go pretty fast tbh, Around 120km/h wich means 5:30 hours, wich Is pretty good considering that going in car you travel the same amount of Time, saludos from buenos aires!
Hi I am from India and I really like your video and comments (lol)
I enjoyed that i am in the train 👍
Muy buen video!!!!!! Soy de Viedma!!!. La empresa ferroviaria provincial SE.FE.PA va a arreglar este año las vías del tramo de Bahía Blanca a Carmen de Patagones.
La empresa ferroviaria provincial SE.FE.PA (SERVICIOS FERROVIARIOS PATAGONICOS) actualmente se llama por temas turísticos TREN PATAGONICO SOCIEDAD ANÓNIMA. Antes esta empresa se llamaba SE.FE.PA, pero le cambiaron el nombre a principios de los 2000. Es provincial porque pertenece a la provincia de Río Negro, en cambio la empresa SOFSE o más conocida por su nombre comercial y turístico TRENES ARGENTINOS es una empresa ferroviaria *estatal*.
La estación del pueblo o paraje Vicealmirante O'Connor es una estación donde suben pasajeros. En el minuto 8:37 se ve una casa media destruida y un vagón roto, eso es una estación de un pueblito (hoy en día un paraje a falta de personas) llamado *General Nicolas H. Palacios* donde los trenes (como el "TREN PATAGONICO") no paran.
Saludos desde Argentina!!!!
Very good video!!!!!! I'm from Viedma!!!. The provincial railway company SE.FE.PA is going to fix this year the tracks of the section from Bahía Blanca to Carmen de Patagones.
The provincial railway company SE.FE.PA (SERVICIOS FERROVIARIOS PATAGONICOS, in english: PATAGONIAN RAILWAY SERVICES) is currently called TREN PATAGONICO SOCIEDAD ANÓNIMA due to tourism issues. Before this company was called SE.FE.PA, but they changed its name in the early 2000s. It is provincial because it belongs to the province of Río Negro, instead the company SOFSE or better known by its commercial and tourist name TRENES ARGENTINOS is a *state* railway company.
The Vice Admiral O'Connor town or place station is a station where passengers board. At minute 8:37 you see a half-destroyed house and a broken car, that's a station in a small town (today a place with a lack of people) called *General Nicolas H. Palacios* where the trains (such as the " PATAGONIAN TRAIN") do not stop.
Greetings from Argentina!!!!
Fede L. G. ¡Muchas gracias por la información! Qué lindo es viajar en tren y pasar por cada pueblo, paraje, ciudad, y conocer un poco de cada lugar.
So nice !
Not exactly a high-speed train, but sooo romantic. And inexpensive, too.
That wide gauge reminds me of India and (in general) anything running on the South Asian Subcontinent
Wide gauge is also used in Ireland and Australia.
Its the same gauge as in India, some railroads here were also developed by british companies
Absolutely fantastic. I would love to do this trip someday
Beautiful Video my friend
Gracias por compartir este video y por difundir una de nuestras mas grandes bellezas. El transporte ferroviario Argentino de larga distancia es de excelente calidad y a precio muy económicos. Lamentablemente se le da muy poca difusión en mi País
Lo de excelente calidad lo dice de broma, no.
Dejalo en buenos precios nomás, lo de excelente calidad está muy lejos aún. Sí se ve siempre la buena disponibilidad y atención del personal, pero esos trenes y vías muchas veces están en muy mal estado.
You're si Brave travelling on Argentina hard times!
That is a great video.
I feel as if I am traveling myself
Wonderful filming Thanks and regards shamyaprasa 16 may 2023
Thiebaut, have you read "The old Patagonian express" by Paul Theroux? It would have been most apt on that journey!😉 Thanks, as always, for your great content!
Edit: Come to think of it, that might actually be a trip to recreate by you and put on RUclips!😃
I was going to add my own recommendation for this book (beware, though, Theroux is notoriously curmudgeonly (bourrou)), which I read when it was first published in 1979. He begins on the subway from his parents' house in Medford, outside Boston, and goes by train all the way down.
@@vrkoven I greatly enjoyed that book when I read it as a teenager, last Century... I think I still have it, it was my parents', see if I still enjoy it 40-odd years later in the internet age... Curmudgeonly? Not as I recall, but it is the only book of his which I read (Oh- and The Mosquito Coast, which did annoy me), so must give it another go.
I was also going to mention Theroux’s book. I loved all his train travel books. Yes, he could be harsh sometimes - in one of his books set in India he said (I’m paraphrasing) that whenever things seemed that they couldn’t get worse you met Australians. I laughed out loud at that as you can guess where I am originally from. I’ll have to back and read those books again.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Trochita that train does exist. Is in Chubut Province
Gracias por mostrar nuestros tenes al mundo! Un poco de historia: harta principios de los 90 había trenes desde Buenos Aires a Bariloche, el viaje duraba algo más 30 horas mas o menos, la formación contaba con coche cine y coche discoteca supongo que el motivo es que Bariloche es el destino de los viajes de egresados de escuela secundaria. Lamentablemente gracias a los malos gobiernos y sindicatos perdimos la mayoría de los recorridos. Hoy el tren no es un servicio, es una limosna.
Nice video.
Good vídeo 👌🏻👍🏻
Qué hermoso me encanta saludos de argentina saludos crack 👍🤩😎