@@buttersmcgee maybe not the ammo lol. Tell that to my WW2 surplus ammo that still shoots. You can put boxes of ammo outside in the rain for a month and they can still shoot. Also a semi auto will still go bang loaded in 50 years, the springs only wear out when being used repeatedly, not sitting at rest.
We’ll have to agree to disagree on this one Yank. My daily carry gun has to be small enough to be concealable and easily carried. My home defense gun has no such restrictions. If I need to investigate a bump in the night it’s going to be with a 12 gauge with a light on it.
A duty-sized pistol is kind of more my choice there, given how things are laid out here and the size of the property outside, (in my case the usual choice is a full-sized CZ75: I'd tend to *carry* a slightly more compact one, (saving for a PCR or other 'd' sized one.) but that's not such a big concern for 'bump in the night' duty. I do think shotguns can be valid but the 12-gauge is a bit much to maneuver especially with all the right turns a defender would have to take here. Doesn't best suit the home court advantage so to speak, if nothing else. I feel like a carbine might suit this particular place in some other ways, though.
The problem with picking a shotgun is that they're not drop safe, meaning they cant be safely left with one in the chamber, unless they're stored in a way that secures them from falling. Then the magazine size is heavily restricted compared to a pistol or a rifle. I have the same mentality with home defense. There are no limits. My home defense gun is a rifle.
Shotguns are devastating home defense weapons, and all of your Revolvers will "over-penetrate" when used indoors as well. A single pellet of 00 buck(53 grains @1200fps ~ish~) will have less penetrative power than your single round of .357 magnum(125-158 grains @1400fps ~ish~); A shotgun is much more firepower than a rifle or handgun when utilized properly; As per FBI shooting statistics generate a 95% one shot stop with a single load of 9 pellet buck.
As far as handguns go depends on what type of load what type of caliber you using.. depends if you live alone .. or have other people in different rooms... If you live near neighbors if you live in an apartment well depends on the caliber and load.. for instance something like a larger 380 might be a good choice load with a good expanding hollow point less likely to penetrate a lot of walls and don't forget the shotgun with birdshot yes I said it bird shot check out Paul Harrell he did a fantastic test and birdshot is effective at close range and will not penetrate as many walls
Yeah, I'd check out some testing for penetration rates, like glenmo1 said Paul Harrell's old tests. 00 buckshot will penetrate 5ish walls, so I don't think I would count on any safety margin with it.
Shotguns over penetrate, everything does. Check Paul Harrel's wall penetration test videos. Shockingly the one that penetrated the least was Hornady Critical Defense in. 556
"Pistols put holes in people. Rifles put holes through people. Shotguns at the right range with the right load will physically remove a chunk of shit from your opponent and throw that shit on the floor" -Clint Smith
I have those bedside gun brackets on both sides of my bed. A mossberg 590a1 on one side, a Rock River Ar15 on the other, and a glock 20 on the nightstand. All with surefire lights on them and extra mags.
One more thing. I was in the security system business for almost 40 years at the highest levels. Cardinal rule #1. Don't ever tell anyone about the details of your security. You never know when it will come back to bite you in the ass. Love your channel.
Love your videos Yankee! I'm a 26+ year retired police officer and have SWAT and Tactical training. But, here's my issue with having the inside of your house all lit up, the bad guy doesn't know the layout of your home, unless it's someone familiar with your home. If it's all lit up, now they have a same advantage of working they're way through your home. They're on the same playing field then. If the bad guy has to bump around in the dark trying to get at you, then you definitely have the home field advantage. Now, having a bright light on your firearm, doing spots checks, in my opinion, gives you the best tactical edge in your home. ***Don't keep the light on the whole time with the firearm or you might as well say "here I am, come hurt or shoot me". These are just some of my opinions and my training....take it how you want to. Thanks!
I have a friend from Mexico and he told me that is how they think about home security there. They want it dark and not lit up where the criminals can see everything.
My home go to Gun is my Beretta 92 FS and my secondary Gun is my AR 15. The reason my AR 15 is secondary is because with all of the turns and narrow hallway I end up hitting the walls and doorway frames trying to clear my house.
Pistols are for unexpected gun fights because that’s what you can probably carry around. If I know a gun fight is coming, it’s going to be a long gun, regardless of whether it happens inside my home or outside my walls.
Properly loaded handguns are the best for in-home defense because an entire room can be covered by a simple single hand movement. One of the best rounds for in-home is the simple 38 Special 148gr full wadcutter in target velocity (~700 fps, 4-inch barrel). Low pressure, low recoil, low flash and accurate. The 0.357 diameter full wadcutter is very destructive even at low velocity, and at 700 fps will only penetrate between 16 to 18 inches of gelatin in the 4-layer denim FBI test. The standard pressure 0.357 wadcutter at about 900+ fps(4-inch barrel) will over penetrate at 24+ inches! A Crimson Trace laser grip makes the 38 Special target load 148 gr WC an instant "death ray" with a center-chest hit on a bad guy.
All three of my Mossy's are looking right at you Yankee. "What, are WE a 'Joke'?!" I'll trust these effective pieces of hand-held artillery for self defense any day of the year. I do agree that people have to consider WHERE they live, and what's on the other side of their walls/windows. :-)
Having had to discharge a 12-gauge in a closed space without hearing protection, I can declare that a shotgun is a devastating weapon - to one's hearing, as I have permanent hearing loss because of doing so. With that said, I do keep a Mossberg 500 "Tactical" and a Mossberg "Nightstick" that are configured to fire "shorty" ammunition for home-defense should a "gauge" ever be needed. While shorty shot shells do offer some reduction in recoil and blast, I also keep electronic hearing protection in the nightstand, regardless if a shotgun or other firearm is selected. A good K-9 of substantial size, weight, and threatening demeanor can not only be a good deterrent to someone attempting a home invasion, but is much easier on the ears when they take down the bad guy; the screams of the bad guy as his groin is being separated from his body can be hurtful to the hearing, though.
I don't think any long gun is good for home defense. Unless the threat is outside and the defenders inside, then a handgun will almost always be the better choice. I think there's a fairly long list of reasons why too. People say "your handgun is there to help you get to your rifle... but in many cases (if not most), a handgun is the better choice anyways and you only need to get to another gun if you're out of ammo and/or need a larger, more powerful gun. I know there are situations in which rifles and/or shotguns are the better choice, but I think that if there is any chance of CQB (close quarters combat, fighting or shooting within arms reach or ambushes) then a handgun is by far the better options and a long gun can become a serious disadvantage or even a detriment in a self defense situation.
My home defense is as follows Smith & Wesson model 10, 10, 10, 15, 19, 19, 36, 36, 37, 49, 442, 640. Yes, those numbers do repeat themselves various barrel length or thicknesses. I sprinkled them around the house. For anything outside the home I have a Henry Mare’s leg as well as a 16 inch 20 inch and 24 inch in 357 magnum.
I agree with Yankee on this... a shotgun can be overkill. But if you don't carry... Live in Canada and it's FUBAR up here. So I would just say the firearm you are MOST familiar with should be the best one. However the Mossberg 590 A1 Class 3 is my choice if I'm going for a shotgun... Again I Live in Canada with Justin Castro running the country, have to stress that, FIGHT FOR YOUR 2A guys. It's small and YES Unrestricted here(and yes our laws are F***** up), so good for maneuverability in small spaces such as apts. With 00 buck. Just an off topic FYI a Henry's Mare’s Leg is also an Unrestricted firearm. And any PC Carbine(such as the Ruger) with mags originally made for a handgun(10rds max in Canada), will allow you to exceed the 5rd max limit for Rifle rds
So Lee Enfield .303 rifles(10rd.capacity)are no longer legal for"civilians"(peasants)to own in Canada? If so,was everyone that had one ordered to turn it in?
My first line of defense is a Beretta 92fs backed up by a S&W 685 + 357, which would give me enough time to go to my SKS and Winchester "Defender". Good video.
Only 6-7 rounds in a revolver vs ~15 isnt logical. Plus 357 is going to over penetrate walls vs 9mm. I see you have a bunch of different guns but a 9mm carry pistol with 15+ rounds makes more sense.
I have a Tavor bullpup 12ga with a Eotech for home defense. Most likely my edc handgun will end the threat before I even have time to retrieve my long guns.
Funny that Yank Mars blew his eardrum out with a 357mag. What does he still recommend in a confined space? 357mag. Like yourself; I have a short barreled pcc, or is it a pistol caliber carbine pistol? You can tuck it under your arm(the brace) and fire it one handed if nessasary.
Almost every firearm caliber will over penetrate inside a home. 22lr, 9mm, .45acp, 5.56mm, 12gauge. It all depends on your individual situation and home setup. If we're downstairs and there's an attempted break-in, i'm using whichever is my "current" carry gun. If we're upstairs then i grab my ar-15 .300 blackout. If they try to come up the stairs, it will be thru a hail of bullets. But i do have several 20 gauge shotguns, just in-case
I find that a pistol with a suppressor works out better since I shot a gun indoors without adequate earing protection and I damaged my hearing so bad that I had to get injections in my ear drum which were incredibly painful, and never really fully recovered. I damaged it with a 40 and I cannot imagine firing a 357 magnum indoors and not having irreparable damage.
Shotguns can be great for certain circumstances but the biggest drawbacks to shotguns are capacity and reloading unless you have a box fed shotgun, fast efficient reloads take a lot of practice. Much more than the average person will be willing to commit to. An AR is a better choice , high capacity,fairly simple to run and low recoil in 5.56
I dont think shotguns are bad, I just think ppl should pick what fits their situation best and a 12g is probably not that for most ppl. I have an AR15 10”, a Beretta 1301, and a glock 34 for HD, but something goes bump in the night, I will always be inclined to grab the G34 bc it works best for my situation without have more time or information. If the threats outside or attempting entry, Im grabbing a long gun. Ppl shouldnt look for a single answer for every situation, bc it rarely exists.
I'm just a bumpkin but I figure if it comes down to it I'm gonna use whatever's handy at the time, best plans fall apart after the first shot. Keep your options open (and your mind).
Yankee you’re shattering my illusions. Been picturing you walking around dressed like Donald Duck. Next your gonna tell me your not affiliated with Disney!
Thanks for sharing your home defense system with us, Yankee. The shotgun mount that you used in the living room gave me an idea of how to repurpose one of my old guitar stands.
Layered defense...very good. Still glad the shotgun is part of the layers. For all the reasons you mentioned a youth Mossberg 20 gauge (shorter, not expensive, maneuverable, still more powerful than a .44 magnum at short/medium range) is part of my set up. Handguns play a large role too.... I like the ideas about motion lights and cameras and will implement these....thanks for the suggestion. The best defense is to make your property a less than appealing target so you never have to deal with it in the first place....completely agree.
EDC guns are sub-optimal for HD. The barrel length is the key - long barrel gives more velocity with less recoil and report. The latter is especially important indoors.
CZ P09 on nightstand and a shotgun and a AR 8 feet away. While watching TV P07 with me and .44 Mag on the wall. In the kitchen .45 Hipoint pistol with 3 shotguns hanging above the fireplace. Outside I have options.
The best home defense gun very much depends on the home on the owner/tenant. That said I want the option that is going to end the fight as quickly as possible. A handgun will never be my personal choice.
S&W 22WMR semi auto pistol. 30 +1 with two loaded spare magazines within arms reach. That's 91 high speed angry hornets that will not overpenetrate, but will highly ventilate any threat. I practice with it weekly, and know what ammo it likes best. Rarely malfunctions. I,m good to go in my suburban home. Cheers.
You can get short shotguns in a 20 gauge caliber with some birdshot and do pretty well in an apartment. I promise you a pistol will penetrate a wall way better than birdshot. At apartment distances the birdwill be just fine. Even low brass. Pual Harrell made a video on this and demonstrated it pretty well.
I don't have a primary home defense gun. It's whatever gun I have within 3 steps of me. I have a .380 in my office(where I spend a lot of time, working), a .45 in my nightstand drawer, an AR-15 in my dining room and 2 shotguns near the back door. I conceal carry a FiveSeven when I leave the house.
Shotguns being overkill is really dependent. Low recoil buck or #4 buck is still devastating without traveling through as many walks as a 9mm. Then there's smaller gauges like 20.
Good video. Definitely agree 100%. I wish more people would get serious about home security. There are cons to having cameras, as they can act as a witness against you just as easily as they can be used to prove your innocence... and if a crime ever happens, that footage will go to the police and they can (and WILL) use any of that video to charge you also. Yeah, I get the whole "i have nothing to hide" argument... but those are some of the people that end up in jail or with massive fines, because of some ridiculous "law" they didn't know existed. We have more laws in the US than any two nations combined and that's true even for some states, not including federal law (like NY and CA for example). I can't even recall how many times I've seen innocent and decent people's lives destroyed, because they had "nothing to hide", so they talked to cops and/or acted as witness against themselves in one fashion or another.
Well I have my 20ga loaded with Bird shot 7 ...... For in the house & if you are in one of those hallway between your houses track homes I would suggest the same Birdshot in 5 yards would do the job of taking out an intruder & highly doubtful it will travel thru 3 walls & 6 feet to penitrate the house next door it may not even penitrate the wall of the kids room in your house if any shot misses the intruder ..... at 15feet what's the size of the shot pattern 4-8 inches depending on the choke ........ an oz of shot in an 8 inch area of your torso will take you out even if it's birdshot 7 ......
I personally use my edc (a gen4 glock model 20). I found out I'm better with a larger frame pistol since I have some big ole hands. Also wanted to say i like your channel im glad i decided to start watching. Also gotta say i like the Phil videos.
All valid points about firing a shotgun inside the house. I often point to the same reasons. Guys like to talk tough about shooting intruders in the home. I’m not making Swiss cheese out of my walls. Or plumbing & a/c unit for that matter.
If you’re worrying about the plumbing it’s not a real self-defense situation. There are reasons to reject a shotgun, but “I don’t want to damage the drywall” is a dumb one
Shotguns for outside is fine, but they are a pain in the ass to navigate stairwells and halls. They're a great "Alamo" gun for the bedroom or whatever you designate.
One advantage of a handgun for home defense. You can take one hand off to manipulate your environment, open doors, flip on lights, push children out of the way, and you will not degrade your abilities with your pistol. With any long gun, taking that hand off seriously degrades your abilities.
Yankee is right....the best choice doesn't change just because you're indoors...the caveat here is that my carry gun....is far from being my personal best choice. I only choose my current carry pistol because my beretta 1301 seems to print a lot in pants... and a hell of a lot in shorts.
Yes first line of defense is light.. cameras. Super bright flashlight... Handgun right next to me..BUT if I have a chance to get to my pump 12 gauge.. that would be my choice.. first two shells are #4 buck .. followed by OO buck . If you're concerned about penetrating walls yes use birdshot! Yes I said bird shot! Check out test them by Paul Harrell.. for close range birdshot has plenty of penetration but will less likely penetrate a lot of walls.. for a handgun home defense you might want to consider 38 special perhaps full target Wadd cutters... Or a standard pressure hollow point.. if you were worried about penetrating walls.. you may even want to consider a full size 380! Yes 380 with hollow points less likely to penetrate a lot of walls
If shot indoors, isn't a 12 gauge shotgun a lot harder on the eardrums than a 9mm pistol? ( I know, you don't like 9mm but it's the most popular choice.)
I have a holster zip tied to my nightstand, carry gun comes out of concealed holster into the other, I live in town, shotgun would be a bit over the top
First off Yankee, check our concealed carry gym shorts. Other then that i tend to agree my main home defense gun is my daily carry because i have it on me. Now if me and my better ¾ are laying in bed asleep and someone kicks in the door they are probably going to get met but a 12 gauge. Like Yankee i worry more worried about a bear then a home invasion and they have a alarm, a barking dog and several cameras to deal with first!
I do not like shot guns,I would rather have a 45/70 lever action if it has to be a rifle,my home self defense is a 7 shot 357 mag Ruger go100 4.5 inch barrel.
Inside a house, shotguns are basically a rifle with poor sights, slow to reload and too long to maneuver well. An SBR is a lot better in my opinion followed by a handgun with a light.
Hell yeah, carry gun=best gun. I wear mine 24/7 outside of bathing and sleeping, I wear my Kore belt under my house shorts with my AIWB (yeah yeah, appendix carry bad, says you), right side clip over said house shorts to keep said shorts from fouling my draw. All my other guns are unloaded, I figure if I have time to grab an AR, AK, shotgun, levergat, etc. then I'll have time to load it with their staged ammo, throw on my body armor and my ear pro. Which is to say that here in the burbs I highly doubt I'll have time to get to a long gun in an emergency, lol
Snubnose on the nightstand. Even laying down under the blanket I can have it in my hand and spitting lead in less than a second. A rifle or shotgun would require me to get up out of bed and get the weapon into battery which would be utterly impossible if armed goons came crashing in. Longarms are only effective if you have them in hand and are standing in the middle of your living all night long like an armed sentry waiting for someone to enter. Grab a rifle or 12 gauge if you somehow know there are bad guys outside advancing but if your door crashes open in the middle of the night you need a pistol within arm's reach to get first.
The best weapon for home defense is the weapon that you train with. Regardless of the make and model or caliber of your weapon, if you are not familiar with it, it’s not the best thing to grab. If you train with a shotgun then for you, the shotgun is the best home defense weapon.
I think People generally Recommend a Shotgun because depending on your Load Choice you get More Projectiles per round and I suppose that ups the likelihood of stopping the Threat. of course your Carry Gun would be a good choice for house Defense too assuming that is the one you're used to shooting the most.
My personal opinion is if you're a bad shot or a woman ( like my wife ) that will probably miss with her 1st shot with her pistol but with her shotgun the intruder will not intrude any more . For a single woman a Remington 870 20 Guage is the perfect home defense weapon. Even if they miss it will scare the crap out of someone with bad intentions. Just my opinion...
I agree with the idea, just disagree with the methodology; any home security system should reasonably consider multiple defense measures instead of being wholly reliant on the gun to solve your home defense worries. The problem with a shotgun is that due to all the Fuddlore spread about it the average new gun owner is going to treat it more like a magic talisman than an actual tool. They generally won’t practice with it, they’ll generally buy the cheapest box of birdshot on the gun shop shelf to load it with, and then leave it by the bedside under the assumption that if racking the pump isn’t enough to scare a miscreant off, just aiming in the general direction of them and firing will guarantee a hit (at that point even Biden’s advice of just firing two blasts in the air sounds more grounded in logic than the idea of not needing to aim your shotgun at the threat in a life or death situation). It also still boggles my mind that the same folks that argue women have hands that are too weak to rack the slide on a pistol are somehow also capable of racking the pump on a shotgun under stress, which I doubt when most of the female shooters I’ve introduced to firearms shooting tend to short stroke the pump at least semi-regularly, and require training and practice to correct that problem. And that’s before touching on the large number of folks willing to half ass their self defense by deciding to use birdshot to reduce overpenetration risks; news flash, if your projectile is large and fast enough to penetrate a rib cage and mess up someone’s internal organs, it’s definitely going to bust through multiple house walls, especially when most US homes are comprised of drywall. Your innocent family member isn’t going to be able to tell the difference whether they got hit by birdshot or buckshot from a couple walls over, they’ll just know your aim was bad enough to where you more successfully shot them from a few rooms over instead of the bad guy right in front of you. I’ll simply add the caveat that I do use a shotgun for HD; though it had to meet my requirements of being semi-auto, holds at least 7 in the tube, was relatively easy to mount a red dot and white light to it, and holds an advantage in being able to be taken and utilized in all 50 states whenever I travel instead of having to neuter an AR rifle or cap myself to 10 rounds in a pistol or rifle.
Shotguns are at their best as a hunting tool. In a house or apartment its just too unweildly in confined spaces. A Colt Combat Commander 9mm close to the hip is what I prefer.
Revolver in the nightstand are the best for me. They can sit in a drawer for fifty years and still go bang...
Maybe not the ammo
@@buttersmcgee Should be good for at least 25 years so the point still stands.
@@buttersmcgee maybe not the ammo lol. Tell that to my WW2 surplus ammo that still shoots. You can put boxes of ammo outside in the rain for a month and they can still shoot. Also a semi auto will still go bang loaded in 50 years, the springs only wear out when being used repeatedly, not sitting at rest.
We’ll have to agree to disagree on this one Yank. My daily carry gun has to be small enough to be concealable and easily carried. My home defense gun has no such restrictions. If I need to investigate a bump in the night it’s going to be with a 12 gauge with a light on it.
Agreed.
"IF" you can.. Just sayin.
@@justis4men211 if I can what?
A duty-sized pistol is kind of more my choice there, given how things are laid out here and the size of the property outside, (in my case the usual choice is a full-sized CZ75: I'd tend to *carry* a slightly more compact one, (saving for a PCR or other 'd' sized one.) but that's not such a big concern for 'bump in the night' duty. I do think shotguns can be valid but the 12-gauge is a bit much to maneuver especially with all the right turns a defender would have to take here. Doesn't best suit the home court advantage so to speak, if nothing else. I feel like a carbine might suit this particular place in some other ways, though.
The problem with picking a shotgun is that they're not drop safe, meaning they cant be safely left with one in the chamber, unless they're stored in a way that secures them from falling.
Then the magazine size is heavily restricted compared to a pistol or a rifle.
I have the same mentality with home defense. There are no limits. My home defense gun is a rifle.
Shotguns are devastating home defense weapons, and all of your Revolvers will "over-penetrate" when used indoors as well. A single pellet of 00 buck(53 grains @1200fps ~ish~) will have less penetrative power than your single round of .357 magnum(125-158 grains @1400fps ~ish~); A shotgun is much more firepower than a rifle or handgun when utilized properly; As per FBI shooting statistics generate a 95% one shot stop with a single load of 9 pellet buck.
As far as handguns go depends on what type of load what type of caliber you using.. depends if you live alone .. or have other people in different rooms... If you live near neighbors if you live in an apartment well depends on the caliber and load.. for instance something like a larger 380 might be a good choice load with a good expanding hollow point less likely to penetrate a lot of walls and don't forget the shotgun with birdshot yes I said it bird shot check out Paul Harrell he did a fantastic test and birdshot is effective at close range and will not penetrate as many walls
Yeah, I'd check out some testing for penetration rates, like glenmo1 said Paul Harrell's old tests. 00 buckshot will penetrate 5ish walls, so I don't think I would count on any safety margin with it.
@glenmo1 why settle for birdshot and its potential of being ineffective when #4 buck exists?
@@rogerwood5228 #4 is a great "In-between" option for recoil sensitive/apartment dwellings, still highly effective against a man sized target.
Shotguns over penetrate, everything does.
Check Paul Harrel's wall penetration test videos.
Shockingly the one that penetrated the least was Hornady Critical Defense in. 556
"Pistols put holes in people. Rifles put holes through people. Shotguns at the right range with the right load will physically remove a chunk of shit from your opponent and throw that shit on the floor" -Clint Smith
You could install a cattle guard crossing. Its a noisy low tech first alert of strangers driving across your driveway.
I have those bedside gun brackets on both sides of my bed. A mossberg 590a1 on one side, a Rock River Ar15 on the other, and a glock 20 on the nightstand. All with surefire lights on them and extra mags.
Tony? Tony Montana?
@@whelper4231 yes but without the money, cocaine, mansion, and Michelle Pfeiffer.
A 12 GAUGE A 556 AND 10MM WITH EXTRA MAGS YOU ARE NOT PREPARED FOR HOME DEFENSE YOU ARE PREPARED FOR WAR 😮
@@gunpolygamist as I always say, "it's better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it."
@@theshapeexists I AGREE 💯 PERCENT
One more thing. I was in the security system business for almost 40 years at the highest levels. Cardinal rule #1. Don't ever tell anyone about the details of your security. You never know when it will come back to bite you in the ass. Love your channel.
Cameras hooked up to Alexa lol.. Man that's a lot of privacy. The NSA loves people like you
Not to mention "Internet of Things" hackers, lol
The wall hook is for a guitar... great idea for a long-gun hanger.
Love your videos Yankee! I'm a 26+ year retired police officer and have SWAT and Tactical training. But, here's my issue with having the inside of your house all lit up, the bad guy doesn't know the layout of your home, unless it's someone familiar with your home. If it's all lit up, now they have a same advantage of working they're way through your home. They're on the same playing field then. If the bad guy has to bump around in the dark trying to get at you, then you definitely have the home field advantage. Now, having a bright light on your firearm, doing spots checks, in my opinion, gives you the best tactical edge in your home. ***Don't keep the light on the whole time with the firearm or you might as well say "here I am, come hurt or shoot me". These are just some of my opinions and my training....take it how you want to. Thanks!
I have a friend from Mexico and he told me that is how they think about home security there. They want it dark and not lit up where the criminals can see everything.
My home go to Gun is my Beretta 92 FS and my secondary Gun is my AR 15. The reason my AR 15 is secondary is because with all of the turns and narrow hallway I end up hitting the walls and doorway frames trying to clear my house.
I think we think much alike on this one, different branding aside, (and well , an AR wouldn't make sense here, for a longarm to sling. :) )
HA! As soon as he came on, I was wondering if he was wearing pants. 🤣
Pistols are for unexpected gun fights because that’s what you can probably carry around. If I know a gun fight is coming, it’s going to be a long gun, regardless of whether it happens inside my home or outside my walls.
That table in your living room is awesome sir.
I like that shotgun on the wall guarding your doll collection in the cabinet behind it.
@paulharrell has settled this topic 8 years ago: "Shotguns don't suck for Home Defense!!"
I like just about everything you put out, but this video is one of the best. Very thorough, comprehensive, and you make excellent points!
Don't shoot bears Yankee! ...they keep the lonely woman population wandering the woods under control. 😏
(contemporary humor is weird 😅)
And now I'm hearing "The Hairy Bear and the Maiden Fair!" (See 'Game of Thrones' for further details)
Rem 870 by the bed , 1st round high brass #6 followed by 5 rounds 00 . light on it , i feel safe 😁
Properly loaded handguns are the best for in-home defense because an entire room can be covered by a simple single hand movement. One of the best rounds for in-home is the simple 38 Special 148gr full wadcutter in target velocity (~700 fps, 4-inch barrel). Low pressure, low recoil, low flash and accurate. The 0.357 diameter full wadcutter is very destructive even at low velocity, and at 700 fps will only penetrate between 16 to 18 inches of gelatin in the 4-layer denim FBI test. The standard pressure 0.357 wadcutter at about 900+ fps(4-inch barrel) will over penetrate at 24+ inches! A Crimson Trace laser grip makes the 38 Special target load 148 gr WC an instant "death ray" with a center-chest hit on a bad guy.
All three of my Mossy's are looking right at you Yankee. "What, are WE a 'Joke'?!"
I'll trust these effective pieces of hand-held artillery for self defense any day of the year.
I do agree that people have to consider WHERE they live, and what's on the other side of their walls/windows. :-)
I usually keep a .40 or 10mm Glock loaded up as primary, a .357 or 44 Mag revolver as secondary and a 12ga as a tertiary option.
SIG P229 chambered in 40SW, 12 rounds +1 and 2 spare 12 round magazines
Having had to discharge a 12-gauge in a closed space without hearing protection, I can declare that a shotgun is a devastating weapon - to one's hearing, as I have permanent hearing loss because of doing so. With that said, I do keep a Mossberg 500 "Tactical" and a Mossberg "Nightstick" that are configured to fire "shorty" ammunition for home-defense should a "gauge" ever be needed. While shorty shot shells do offer some reduction in recoil and blast, I also keep electronic hearing protection in the nightstand, regardless if a shotgun or other firearm is selected.
A good K-9 of substantial size, weight, and threatening demeanor can not only be a good deterrent to someone attempting a home invasion, but is much easier on the ears when they take down the bad guy; the screams of the bad guy as his groin is being separated from his body can be hurtful to the hearing, though.
I don't think any long gun is good for home defense. Unless the threat is outside and the defenders inside, then a handgun will almost always be the better choice. I think there's a fairly long list of reasons why too. People say "your handgun is there to help you get to your rifle... but in many cases (if not most), a handgun is the better choice anyways and you only need to get to another gun if you're out of ammo and/or need a larger, more powerful gun. I know there are situations in which rifles and/or shotguns are the better choice, but I think that if there is any chance of CQB (close quarters combat, fighting or shooting within arms reach or ambushes) then a handgun is by far the better options and a long gun can become a serious disadvantage or even a detriment in a self defense situation.
My home defense is as follows Smith & Wesson model 10, 10, 10, 15, 19, 19, 36, 36, 37, 49, 442, 640.
Yes, those numbers do repeat themselves various barrel length or thicknesses. I sprinkled them around the house.
For anything outside the home I have a Henry Mare’s leg as well as a 16 inch 20 inch and 24 inch in 357 magnum.
I like the 686 💯
New York reload... a lot.
John Mayer? Good, someone finally found a use for him. 😅
...mare's leg 😋
My primary home defense is a light too. A phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range.
I agree with Yankee on this... a shotgun can be overkill.
But if you don't carry... Live in Canada and it's FUBAR up here.
So I would just say the firearm you are MOST familiar with should be the best one.
However the Mossberg 590 A1 Class 3 is my choice if I'm going for a shotgun...
Again I Live in Canada with Justin Castro running the country, have to stress that, FIGHT FOR YOUR 2A guys. It's small and YES Unrestricted here(and yes our laws are F***** up), so good for maneuverability in small spaces such as apts. With 00 buck.
Just an off topic FYI a Henry's Mare’s Leg is also an Unrestricted firearm.
And any PC Carbine(such as the Ruger) with mags originally made for a handgun(10rds max in Canada), will allow you to exceed the 5rd max limit for Rifle rds
Overkill? What exactly is overkill when it comes to your life being actively threatened?
So Lee Enfield .303 rifles(10rd.capacity)are no longer legal for"civilians"(peasants)to own in Canada? If so,was everyone that had one ordered to turn it in?
Overkill means you didn't leave them with any other options and decided their fate quickly.
9mm semi-automatic handgun within easy reach is my preference.
In the near future, robot attack dogs will be made and not a lot more expensive than a good drone but with titanium teeth.
My first line of defense is a Beretta 92fs backed up by a S&W 685 + 357, which would give me enough time to go to my SKS and Winchester "Defender". Good video.
Was a cop for 34 years in LA County. I agree with this video’s assesment.
It's the "Get off my lawn" gun.
No, that title belongs to an M1 Garand and not a shotgun.
@@colt10mmsecurity68 The M1 Garand generation is all dead those are collectors items now
Only 6-7 rounds in a revolver vs ~15 isnt logical. Plus 357 is going to over penetrate walls vs 9mm. I see you have a bunch of different guns but a 9mm carry pistol with 15+ rounds makes more sense.
That is a guitar stand hook. I have one. Search for that.
I have a Tavor bullpup 12ga with a Eotech for home defense. Most likely my edc handgun will end the threat before I even have time to retrieve my long guns.
Mine's apart of my home defense along withwith my G19, G26, and a few others throughout the house.
I bought shot gun with the idea to keep it with non-leathal ammo, never got that kind of shots. I keep my .357 Rhino
I only use my EDC when I'm too lazy to go to my safe.
Well, you are especially secure aren't you.
@@justis4men211 Not sure. Maybe.
Same
I use a braced CZ Scorpion with Aimpoint and sure fire light . 35 rounds of 9mm+p JHP will work fine and not blow out my ear drum
Funny that Yank Mars blew his eardrum out with a 357mag.
What does he still recommend in a confined space? 357mag.
Like yourself; I have a short barreled pcc, or is it a pistol caliber carbine pistol?
You can tuck it under your arm(the brace) and fire it one handed if nessasary.
Get a suppressor!
Almost every firearm caliber will over penetrate inside a home. 22lr, 9mm, .45acp, 5.56mm, 12gauge. It all depends on your individual situation and home setup. If we're downstairs and there's an attempted break-in, i'm using whichever is my "current" carry gun. If we're upstairs then i grab my ar-15 .300 blackout. If they try to come up the stairs, it will be thru a hail of bullets. But i do have several 20 gauge shotguns, just in-case
I find that a pistol with a suppressor works out better since I shot a gun indoors without adequate earing protection and I damaged my hearing so bad that I had to get injections in my ear drum which were incredibly painful, and never really fully recovered. I damaged it with a 40 and I cannot imagine firing a 357 magnum indoors and not having irreparable damage.
Sitting on 6acres and the Benelli Nova is my go to lol
Shotguns can be great for certain circumstances but the biggest drawbacks to shotguns are capacity and reloading unless you have a box fed shotgun, fast efficient reloads take a lot of practice. Much more than the average person will be willing to commit to. An AR is a better choice , high capacity,fairly simple to run and low recoil in 5.56
I dont think shotguns are bad, I just think ppl should pick what fits their situation best and a 12g is probably not that for most ppl. I have an AR15 10”, a Beretta 1301, and a glock 34 for HD, but something goes bump in the night, I will always be inclined to grab the G34 bc it works best for my situation without have more time or information. If the threats outside or attempting entry, Im grabbing a long gun. Ppl shouldnt look for a single answer for every situation, bc it rarely exists.
I'm just a bumpkin but I figure if it comes down to it I'm gonna use whatever's handy at the time, best plans fall apart after the first shot. Keep your options open (and your mind).
Yankee you’re shattering my illusions. Been picturing you walking around dressed like Donald Duck. Next your gonna tell me your not affiliated with Disney!
Thanks for sharing your home defense system with us, Yankee. The shotgun mount that you used in the living room gave me an idea of how to repurpose one of my old guitar stands.
Layered defense...very good. Still glad the shotgun is part of the layers. For all the reasons you mentioned a youth Mossberg 20 gauge (shorter, not expensive, maneuverable, still more powerful than a .44 magnum at short/medium range) is part of my set up. Handguns play a large role too.... I like the ideas about motion lights and cameras and will implement these....thanks for the suggestion. The best defense is to make your property a less than appealing target so you never have to deal with it in the first place....completely agree.
EDC guns are sub-optimal for HD. The barrel length is the key - long barrel gives more velocity with less recoil and report. The latter is especially important indoors.
Shotguns kick ass for home defense. #4 buckshots.
Something better than nothing Load with the Right Shot
CZ P09 on nightstand and a shotgun and a AR 8 feet away. While watching TV P07 with me and .44 Mag on the wall. In the kitchen .45 Hipoint pistol with 3 shotguns hanging above the fireplace. Outside I have options.
Would love to see what you went with for security and how you set it up. I recently brought some acreage, and I’m looking for a non-commercial option.
Cmon Yankee, you know that when "The Stangers" finally get around to creepily staring at your house, they will cut your power!
I like the "gun rack" by the window except that it is by the window. It is looking like the cell keys on the Andy Griffith show.
The best home defense gun very much depends on the home on the owner/tenant. That said I want the option that is going to end the fight as quickly as possible. A handgun will never be my personal choice.
S&W 22WMR semi auto pistol. 30 +1 with two loaded spare magazines within arms reach. That's 91 high speed angry hornets that will not overpenetrate, but will highly ventilate any threat. I practice with it weekly, and know what ammo it likes best. Rarely malfunctions. I,m good to go in my suburban home. Cheers.
You can get short shotguns in a 20 gauge caliber with some birdshot and do pretty well in an apartment. I promise you a pistol will penetrate a wall way better than birdshot. At apartment distances the birdwill be just fine. Even low brass. Pual Harrell made a video on this and demonstrated it pretty well.
My English Bulldog alerts me before my ring camera does every time. 😂
That's why you need a bullpup shotgun like the Tavor 12 or KSG. High capacity and easy to maneuver.
I don't have a primary home defense gun. It's whatever gun I have within 3 steps of me. I have a .380 in my office(where I spend a lot of time, working), a .45 in my nightstand drawer, an AR-15 in my dining room and 2 shotguns near the back door. I conceal carry a FiveSeven when I leave the house.
Good advice and very good placement ideas for your shotguns. The guitar hooks are a good alternative to the old WV behind every door system.
My bump in the night gun is an FN57 with a light on it for the nightstand. My AR pistol with light and laser is in the nearby walk in closet
I've always thought my carry gun was my first and best option for home defense too.
Depends on the problem and where in the house I am. AK and pistol in bedroom, pistol in TV room.
The 590S shockwave is great for home defense in my opinion. Its shorter so it's easier to clear a corner.
Shotguns being overkill is really dependent. Low recoil buck or #4 buck is still devastating without traveling through as many walks as a 9mm. Then there's smaller gauges like 20.
Good video. Definitely agree 100%. I wish more people would get serious about home security. There are cons to having cameras, as they can act as a witness against you just as easily as they can be used to prove your innocence... and if a crime ever happens, that footage will go to the police and they can (and WILL) use any of that video to charge you also. Yeah, I get the whole "i have nothing to hide" argument... but those are some of the people that end up in jail or with massive fines, because of some ridiculous "law" they didn't know existed. We have more laws in the US than any two nations combined and that's true even for some states, not including federal law (like NY and CA for example). I can't even recall how many times I've seen innocent and decent people's lives destroyed, because they had "nothing to hide", so they talked to cops and/or acted as witness against themselves in one fashion or another.
Are those Badger "Silverback" grips on the Smith? Also - you didn't show the "pop up 45ACP" next to the toilet..
Well I have my 20ga loaded with
Bird shot 7 ......
For in the house & if you are in one of those hallway between your houses track homes I would suggest the same
Birdshot in 5 yards would do the job of taking out an intruder & highly doubtful it will travel thru 3 walls & 6 feet to penitrate the house next door it may not even penitrate the wall of the kids room in your house if any shot misses the intruder ..... at 15feet what's the size of the shot pattern 4-8 inches depending on the choke ........ an oz of shot in an 8 inch area of your torso will take you out even if it's birdshot 7 ......
I personally use my edc (a gen4 glock model 20). I found out I'm better with a larger frame pistol since I have some big ole hands.
Also wanted to say i like your channel im glad i decided to start watching. Also gotta say i like the Phil videos.
My home defense gun of choice is the Anzio Ironworks 20mm auto mag cannon
All valid points about firing a shotgun inside the house. I often point to the same reasons. Guys like to talk tough about shooting intruders in the home. I’m not making Swiss cheese out of my walls. Or plumbing & a/c unit for that matter.
If you’re worrying about the plumbing it’s not a real self-defense situation.
There are reasons to reject a shotgun, but “I don’t want to damage the drywall” is a dumb one
My coffee shot outta my nose “ I’m not porky pigging it !” 🥸lol
My carry is a compromise with weight and size.
My HD is too large to carry but still small enough to maneuver around the house.
Shotguns for outside is fine, but they are a pain in the ass to navigate stairwells and halls. They're a great "Alamo" gun for the bedroom or whatever you designate.
You expecting a visit from the ATF in ghilli suits or are you just paranoid ? That’s a lot of firepower
One advantage of a handgun for home defense. You can take one hand off to manipulate your environment, open doors, flip on lights, push children out of the way, and you will not degrade your abilities with your pistol. With any long gun, taking that hand off seriously degrades your abilities.
Yankee is it safe to have a gun sitting on the table when you have an angry cat? 🤔
As long as it is a revolver. They don’t have thumbs to cock the hammers, and they can’t shoot for shit double action.
I fear more zombies than a dam cat. 😂
@@TheYankeeMarshalI dunno I feel like cats aggression towards humanity would drive them to figure out a way. 😅
Okay, I have to agree -- you convinced me.
Yankee is right....the best choice doesn't change just because you're indoors...the caveat here is that my carry gun....is far from being my personal best choice. I only choose my current carry pistol because my beretta 1301 seems to print a lot in pants... and a hell of a lot in shorts.
Yes first line of defense is light.. cameras. Super bright flashlight... Handgun right next to me..BUT if I have a chance to get to my pump 12 gauge.. that would be my choice.. first two shells are #4 buck .. followed by OO buck
. If you're concerned about penetrating walls yes use birdshot! Yes I said bird shot! Check out test them by Paul Harrell.. for close range birdshot has plenty of penetration but will less likely penetrate a lot of walls.. for a handgun home defense you might want to consider 38 special perhaps full target Wadd cutters... Or a standard pressure hollow point.. if you were worried about penetrating walls.. you may even want to consider a full size 380! Yes 380 with hollow points less likely to penetrate a lot of walls
Nice Bill Burr reference around the 7:30 mark!
If shot indoors, isn't a 12 gauge shotgun a lot harder on the eardrums than a 9mm pistol? ( I know, you don't like 9mm but it's the most popular choice.)
I have a holster zip tied to my nightstand, carry gun comes out of concealed holster into the other, I live in town, shotgun would be a bit over the top
Is that a doll collection behind your shotgun? That’s the ultimate deterrent
First off Yankee, check our concealed carry gym shorts.
Other then that i tend to agree my main home defense gun is my daily carry because i have it on me. Now if me and my better ¾ are laying in bed asleep and someone kicks in the door they are probably going to get met but a 12 gauge. Like Yankee i worry more worried about a bear then a home invasion and they have a alarm, a barking dog and several cameras to deal with first!
I do not like shot guns,I would rather have a 45/70 lever action if it has to be a rifle,my home self defense is a 7 shot 357 mag Ruger go100 4.5 inch barrel.
Inside a house, shotguns are basically a rifle with poor sights, slow to reload and too long to maneuver well. An SBR is a lot better in my opinion followed by a handgun with a light.
I do not need a gun I can just call the sheriff's department . They will get here in about 20-30 min .
My neighbor is a trained psychologist. I’ll just go get him to administer a therapist session and we’ll all go home happy I’m sure.
Hell yeah, carry gun=best gun. I wear mine 24/7 outside of bathing and sleeping, I wear my Kore belt under my house shorts with my AIWB (yeah yeah, appendix carry bad, says you), right side clip over said house shorts to keep said shorts from fouling my draw. All my other guns are unloaded, I figure if I have time to grab an AR, AK, shotgun, levergat, etc. then I'll have time to load it with their staged ammo, throw on my body armor and my ear pro. Which is to say that here in the burbs I highly doubt I'll have time to get to a long gun in an emergency, lol
Snubnose on the nightstand. Even laying down under the blanket I can have it in my hand and spitting lead in less than a second. A rifle or shotgun would require me to get up out of bed and get the weapon into battery which would be utterly impossible if armed goons came crashing in. Longarms are only effective if you have them in hand and are standing in the middle of your living all night long like an armed sentry waiting for someone to enter. Grab a rifle or 12 gauge if you somehow know there are bad guys outside advancing but if your door crashes open in the middle of the night you need a pistol within arm's reach to get first.
Front Entry: 930x
Rear Entry: BP-12
Bedside: VRF-14
Lesson Over.
The best weapon for home defense is the weapon that you train with. Regardless of the make and model or caliber of your weapon, if you are not familiar with it, it’s not the best thing to grab. If you train with a shotgun then for you, the shotgun is the best home defense weapon.
I think People generally Recommend a Shotgun because depending on your Load Choice you get More Projectiles per round and I suppose that ups the likelihood of stopping the Threat.
of course your Carry Gun would be a good choice for house Defense too assuming that is the one you're used to shooting the most.
My personal opinion is if you're a bad shot or a woman ( like my wife ) that will probably miss with her 1st shot with her pistol but with her shotgun the intruder will not intrude any more . For a single woman a Remington 870 20 Guage is the perfect home defense weapon. Even if they miss it will scare the crap out of someone with bad intentions. Just my opinion...
I agree with the idea, just disagree with the methodology; any home security system should reasonably consider multiple defense measures instead of being wholly reliant on the gun to solve your home defense worries.
The problem with a shotgun is that due to all the Fuddlore spread about it the average new gun owner is going to treat it more like a magic talisman than an actual tool. They generally won’t practice with it, they’ll generally buy the cheapest box of birdshot on the gun shop shelf to load it with, and then leave it by the bedside under the assumption that if racking the pump isn’t enough to scare a miscreant off, just aiming in the general direction of them and firing will guarantee a hit (at that point even Biden’s advice of just firing two blasts in the air sounds more grounded in logic than the idea of not needing to aim your shotgun at the threat in a life or death situation).
It also still boggles my mind that the same folks that argue women have hands that are too weak to rack the slide on a pistol are somehow also capable of racking the pump on a shotgun under stress, which I doubt when most of the female shooters I’ve introduced to firearms shooting tend to short stroke the pump at least semi-regularly, and require training and practice to correct that problem.
And that’s before touching on the large number of folks willing to half ass their self defense by deciding to use birdshot to reduce overpenetration risks; news flash, if your projectile is large and fast enough to penetrate a rib cage and mess up someone’s internal organs, it’s definitely going to bust through multiple house walls, especially when most US homes are comprised of drywall. Your innocent family member isn’t going to be able to tell the difference whether they got hit by birdshot or buckshot from a couple walls over, they’ll just know your aim was bad enough to where you more successfully shot them from a few rooms over instead of the bad guy right in front of you.
I’ll simply add the caveat that I do use a shotgun for HD; though it had to meet my requirements of being semi-auto, holds at least 7 in the tube, was relatively easy to mount a red dot and white light to it, and holds an advantage in being able to be taken and utilized in all 50 states whenever I travel instead of having to neuter an AR rifle or cap myself to 10 rounds in a pistol or rifle.
The best gun for home defense is the one you have in your hand. Also, the gun you shoot the most. As for length, Mossberg Shockwave = 26".
Shotguns are at their best as a hunting tool. In a house or apartment its just too unweildly in confined spaces. A Colt Combat Commander 9mm close to the hip is what I prefer.