After nearly 60 years, another Floridian learns she’s not a legal citizen

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  • Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
  • Another Floridian shared a story with Investigative Reporter Katie LaGrone about how she just learned she’s not a US citizen nearly 60 years after moving here with her parents.

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  • @Hippitidippity
    @Hippitidippity 11 дней назад +15

    I hope people are paying attention she was paying her taxes so the next time you cry about immigrants remember they're paying into our social security system

    • @dlight9849
      @dlight9849 11 дней назад

      Not all of them. I've worked for multiple businesses who gladly pay illegals cash under the table.

  • @dizzygirl8027
    @dizzygirl8027 12 дней назад +29

    I do wonder how these two feel about those illegals. 🤔

    • @loc1181
      @loc1181 9 дней назад

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @MrGchild14
    @MrGchild14 12 дней назад +18

    I don’t really know what to say but this is a small reason why the entire immigration system needs to be fixed. I am not just talking about the borders.

    • @Chicago48
      @Chicago48 12 дней назад

      If they have dual citizenship they have to drop one of their countries.

    • @mryardiedescendant
      @mryardiedescendant 10 дней назад

      @@Chicago48The U.S permits dual citizenship.
      “U.S. law does not impede its citizens' acquisition of foreign citizenship whether by birth, descent, naturalization or other form of acquisition, by imposing requirements of permission from U.S. courts or any governmental agency. If a foreign country's law permits parents to apply for citizenship on behalf of minor children, nothing in U.S. law impedes U.S. citizen parents from doing so. U.S. law does not require a U.S. citizen to choose between U.S. citizenship and another (foreign) nationality (or nationalities). A U.S. citizen may naturalize in a foreign state without any risk to their U.S. citizenship. U.S. dual nationals owe allegiance to both the United States and the foreign country (or countries, if they are nationals of more than one). They are required to obey the laws of both countries, and either country has the right to enforce its laws.” (US Department of State)

  • @realdeal485
    @realdeal485 11 дней назад +11

    Then all the money they put into social security needs to be returned... am i right?

    • @loc1181
      @loc1181 9 дней назад

      Never does

    • @danyg4063
      @danyg4063 6 дней назад

      Not unless we return all the taxes and social security we charge other immigrants. 👀

  • @lward9675
    @lward9675 12 дней назад +9

    Blame your parents.

  • @politicsuncensored5617
    @politicsuncensored5617 12 дней назад +25

    Our gov. will gladly take the taxes & social security out of your checks as long as you work, but if they can find a way to deny paying you they will. That is not the American way. Grant these two their citizenship and pay them what they are due. That is the American way and correct way. Shalom

    • @jannibal9273
      @jannibal9273 12 дней назад

      If they are REALLY citizens, their birth certificates or the birth certificate of one or both parents WILL PROVE IT. It isn't rocket science. Just get certified copies of the parents' birth certificates. If one parent is an American, that's done and done, you're an American citizen no matter where you were born.

    • @Nan-59
      @Nan-59 11 дней назад +1

      YES!!! Absolutely 💯

    • @Look_What_You_Did
      @Look_What_You_Did 11 дней назад

      Not a citizen, deported. Simple. Follow the law.

    • @politicsuncensored5617
      @politicsuncensored5617 11 дней назад

      @@Look_What_You_Did Karen troll they are more of a citizen and more of an adult than your silly ass. Shalom

  • @carolyncoder2178
    @carolyncoder2178 12 дней назад +11

    I thought she would be a citizen because her dad is an American

    • @nobodycaresaboutyourfeelings
      @nobodycaresaboutyourfeelings 12 дней назад

      She’s a Canadian, kids born out of the US still has to apply even if they have US parents. Me and my family lives in Mexico, my daughter has dual citizenship, but her 2 month old was born in Mexico, and she still has to apply for us citizenship, it’s not automatic like a lot of people think.

    • @5kids1goldfish
      @5kids1goldfish 11 дней назад +5

      Certain papers have to be filed. People don't realize the drastic consequences of not filing those papers.

    • @boink800
      @boink800 11 дней назад +3

      You need to go through the citizenship process. She has never done that.

    • @om-nj2hw
      @om-nj2hw 11 дней назад +2

      Cause she didn't know

    • @5kids1goldfish
      @5kids1goldfish 11 дней назад

      @om-nj2hw exactly-- and the law makes no exceptions for people who didn't know. My ancestors arrived before those rules existed, so in those days it didn't matter. Nowadays immigration has been a mess for a very long time...

  • @jannibal9273
    @jannibal9273 12 дней назад +24

    If she is not an American citizen, was she voting all those years she lived in Florida and how did she do it? Shouldn't she be prosecuted for VOTER FRAUD???

    • @Patriot-Propagandist
      @Patriot-Propagandist 11 дней назад

      What a mook

    • @Hippitidippity
      @Hippitidippity 11 дней назад

      Wow!

    • @Oinsichean
      @Oinsichean 9 дней назад

      She's too white for them to prosecute in Florida.

    • @cuteness51308
      @cuteness51308 9 дней назад

      She shouldn’t be prosecuted for anything. She didn’t know! SMH. 🤦🏼‍♀️

  • @user-st1us5um4p
    @user-st1us5um4p 12 дней назад +8

    Why would she get $2000 a month? You would have to be more then a farmer, hmmm😮

    • @jannibal9273
      @jannibal9273 12 дней назад +2

      I worked nearly 50 years and don't get $2000 a month, and I made way more than minimum wage while I was working between 1966 and 2015.

    • @boink800
      @boink800 11 дней назад

      No, it won't be $2k a month if she is retiring at age 62. Maybe retiring at age 70.

  • @dizzygirl8027
    @dizzygirl8027 12 дней назад +6

    Sounds like the parents dropped the ball in both of these cases. It is shitty they were allowed to pay in all their lives but now can't collect. However, as a genxer i will have paid in all my life and get nothing so... welcome to the club i guess.

  • @user-jn9gv9ve6e
    @user-jn9gv9ve6e 12 дней назад +4

    if you were born in canada why do you think you are american.

    • @Patriot-Propagandist
      @Patriot-Propagandist 11 дней назад

      American parents, moron.

    • @boink800
      @boink800 11 дней назад

      Because she has spent 99.95 percent of her life in the US

    • @tsandhage
      @tsandhage 11 дней назад +1

      Because her Dad was an American.

    • @boink800
      @boink800 11 дней назад +1

      @@tsandhage That makes no difference if you're not born in the US.

    • @mryardiedescendant
      @mryardiedescendant 10 дней назад

      ⁠@@boink800You don’t have to be born in the U.S to obtain citizenship at birth. A child born abroad to at least *one* U.S citizen parent is eligible to apply for what’s known as a Consular Report of Birth Abroad (CBRA). A Consular Report of Birth Abroad (CRBA) is an official document issued by the U.S. Department of State, certifying that a child born outside the United States to a U.S. citizen parent or parents acquired U.S. citizenship at birth. This document serves as proof of citizenship and can be used to obtain a U.S. passport for the child. However, there are additional requirements that the U.S citizen parent must meet to transmit citizenship to their child.
      In order to qualify:
      1. One or both parents must be a U.S. Citizen at the time of birth.
      2. The U.S. citizen transmitting parent must satisfy physical presence requirements. Most cases *require five years of physical presence inside the United States or its outlying possessions* before the child is born, with two of those years after the age of 14. However, the applicable physical presence requirement depends on the case.
      3. The child has to be genetically or gestationally related to a U.S. citizen parent or to a non-U.S. citizen parent who is married to a U.S. citizen parent at the time of the child’s birth.
      What Jimmy and Cynthia did not satisfactorily prove was that their parent met the physical presence requirements.
      “To claim dual citizenship, her dad had to have been living in the U.S. for five years before Downs was born, which she said he was. But with so much time passed, digging up her father's past has been tough. Though her dad served in the U.S. military, Downs was informed his military records were destroyed in a fire at the government facility where they were housed.” (WPTV)

  • @dlight9849
    @dlight9849 11 дней назад +3

    I don't get this. I was born in United Kingdom to American parents and I am a Naturalized US citizen, and receive social security.

    • @boink800
      @boink800 11 дней назад

      That's because you bothered to go through the US citizenship process. The lady has never bothered.

    • @dlight9849
      @dlight9849 11 дней назад +1

      @@boink800 I never did any "US citizen process." A child born to an American parent living abroad is deemed a Foreign-Born Naturalized US Citizen.

    • @boink800
      @boink800 11 дней назад +1

      @@dlight9849 Only if the US citizen can prove that he/she has lived longer than 10 years in the US

    • @boink800
      @boink800 11 дней назад +1

      @@dlight9849 The US citizenship still needs to be applied for

  • @katherinerosenbloom33
    @katherinerosenbloom33 8 дней назад

    This is so so sad.

  • @eds5977
    @eds5977 12 дней назад +3

    Poor woman

  • @user-lv1xu4sy1m
    @user-lv1xu4sy1m 12 дней назад +6

    Her parents should have had apply for her citizenship thru her father like form n600 when she was under 18 yr old. It’s her parents fought and her fought that she never asked about her legally citizenship.

    • @user-hj4uf9wz1z
      @user-hj4uf9wz1z 12 дней назад

      I don't believe her she had to of used her birth certificate for something and what did she have a social security number

    • @boink800
      @boink800 11 дней назад

      Sure that's possible but you have to apply for it. She has never done that.

    • @user-lv1xu4sy1m
      @user-lv1xu4sy1m 11 дней назад

      @@user-hj4uf9wz1z I had helped people with immigration documents in the past. Sometimes social security card granted you a number back in the day to authorize people to work only, would not means it was legally stayed. The process back then was like file the petition application form I-130 like her father petition her mom then she would be included on the petition and once she entered the US she would have alien # and the father would do N600 for her to become US citizenship thru her father as minor under 18. Nowadays, you can take your child to US Embassy requested for dna test and apply for passport within the US Embassy. People think by marrying a US person means you’re automatically legally stays but that is not the case to any person from any country who have marriage license because there is immigration status that must be cleared beforehand. If anyone who’s now have or had parents that is not U.S. born or having Alien #, he/she needs to investigate to make sure immigration documents is verified legally. Working and paying tax is granted by social security and IRS as authorized to work doesn’t mean you can stay legally. To be legally in the US, you either born, naturalized or have a valid permanent 10 year green card holder in order to receive any benefits thru Federal like social security retirement. Most illegal immigrants received benefits is thru state funds not thru federal.

  • @bspoon5041
    @bspoon5041 9 дней назад

    My brother was born in Canada he had up until he was 18 to declare citizenship either American or Canadian. He had our father sign paperwork that he was enlisted. He was told at 25 he was considered an illegal alien. He figured it out and has paperwork. Just to let you know it happens all the time and people should have been told by their parents and they had a birth certificate. So umm.

  • @loc1181
    @loc1181 9 дней назад

    Dude... she never needed her birth certificate...... cone on now.... just take the test like rest of us

  • @StopCensoring-fq5fl
    @StopCensoring-fq5fl 9 дней назад

    If they can't collect a pension from SS the government should refund the monies they paid into the SS fund.

  • @beverlyweber171
    @beverlyweber171 12 дней назад +5

    She is a citizens. The proof just hasn't been found yet. There may be duplicate records somewhere

    • @boink800
      @boink800 11 дней назад +2

      No, she never applied for her US citizenship.

    • @MG-vn8jl
      @MG-vn8jl 11 дней назад

      She was born in another country and never hold a green card. So she can even apply for citizenship unless she applies first for a green card

  • @om-nj2hw
    @om-nj2hw 11 дней назад

    She didn't know,it was her parents job to inform her,apply for citizenship. And really some agency should of informed her sooner

  • @user-kd9ui9cv1z
    @user-kd9ui9cv1z 9 дней назад

    This is non-sense. By every legal standard she is a US citizen. This is why: If you stay in my rental but we never sign a lease or even talk to each other but you send me $500 every month, I cash your check and you stay in my house. After one year you are legally my renter of that house. Same goes for living with a woman. After 7 years she is your wife.

  • @royalblood9381
    @royalblood9381 12 дней назад

    The system is really f*ck up.

  • @Nan-59
    @Nan-59 11 дней назад

    BIG BIG H U G E problem! !

  • @DevlinChains
    @DevlinChains 11 дней назад

    If they are Canadian, don’t they qualify for Canadian retirement benefits and have those checks forwarded to Florida?

    • @boink800
      @boink800 11 дней назад

      You need to be a resident of Canada for Canadian retirement benefits.

  • @lorenabg7632
    @lorenabg7632 11 дней назад

    Did they never got a passport or travel out of the us ?

  • @kentGrey
    @kentGrey 11 дней назад +1

    What you sew that so shall you reap.

  • @physetermacrocephalus2209
    @physetermacrocephalus2209 11 дней назад +1

    This is one of those situations that actually deserves amnesty. Allowing her to stay makes much more sense then letting in hundreds of thousands of fighting aged males just because.

  • @chrisganesha
    @chrisganesha 12 дней назад +1

    I wonder if US census records could be used to augment where there might be spottiness in other records.

  • @kaykartz9167
    @kaykartz9167 12 дней назад +7

    Apply for citizenship.

    • @ro7601
      @ro7601 12 дней назад +1

      The first guy did and he got declined.

    • @ro7601
      @ro7601 12 дней назад +1

      The first guy did and he got declined.

    • @boink800
      @boink800 11 дней назад

      @@ro7601 He got declined since his application was not properly done.

  • @alexandervenom9268
    @alexandervenom9268 12 дней назад +4

    Look, I don't want to hear how much you love America Anybody and their mama can say that ' That wants to continue to get our american dollars probably for free you need to do it the legal way, or it's audios, amigos

  • @mike-uw6wt
    @mike-uw6wt 12 дней назад +14

    Deport!

    • @HTCM8FLY
      @HTCM8FLY 12 дней назад +4

      Hate to admit it, but you're right. The law is the law. There were decades this could have been resolved, just negligence and too much trust. I don't blame the SSA, i blame these adults that failed to validate their own identify and were hoping for the best...😢

    • @christinavelazquez8931
      @christinavelazquez8931 12 дней назад

      If they both worked, paid taxes, married us citizens, voted, why should they be deported? Oh and not convicted felon s, they lived their lives on the right side of the law! 👎

    • @mattschehr163
      @mattschehr163 12 дней назад

      they are us born

    • @dizzygirl8027
      @dizzygirl8027 12 дней назад +5

      No they weren't ​@mattschehr163

    • @benjie128
      @benjie128 11 дней назад

      Technically, they'd qualify as dreamers. Brought over as children.

  • @marjoriepoppen3484
    @marjoriepoppen3484 12 дней назад +3

    If they don't give it, sue for the tax money the took then.

    • @Chicago48
      @Chicago48 12 дней назад

      They have to drop the dual citizenship.

    • @bigbadbubba099
      @bigbadbubba099 12 дней назад +1

      That's what I say ...they took your money under false pretenses and invested it thus earning money they now owe this lady. 😢

    • @jannibal9273
      @jannibal9273 12 дней назад

      Oh yeah, and why don't you join the hunt to find them a competent attorney who will do so.

  • @nicholaswilkinson1364
    @nicholaswilkinson1364 12 дней назад +1

    Rather look after Border Jumpers 😢. Fucking Sad.

    • @stephengiunta1564
      @stephengiunta1564 12 дней назад

      Yep. The person working her case drove in from New Mexico. Dummy.

  • @nobodycaresaboutyourfeelings
    @nobodycaresaboutyourfeelings 12 дней назад +2

    kids born out of the US still has to apply even if they have US parents. Me and my family lives in Mexico, my daughter has dual citizenship, but her 2 month old was born in Mexico, and she still has to apply for us citizenship, it’s not automatic like a lot of people think. She has to go to a US consulate, and show all her documents along with mine and husband documents and baby documents from birth.

    • @boink800
      @boink800 11 дней назад

      Exactly. You need to apply for it. It's a process like anything else. However, it must be done.

  • @Patriot-Propagandist
    @Patriot-Propagandist 12 дней назад

    Hope theae Dreamers are taking note. You won't get SHIT!