gongrats on 4k subs and 69 videos XD. also can u compare the new lenovo yoga pro 9i 3.2k mini led and 4060 vs the zephyrus g16 it will be an awesome comparison :D
@Rusty01 right. its so weird to say arm isnt doing much and got beat by a ryzen 9 when the same video shows that it kept up with a battery twice its size
@@Rusty01 My bad. I just assumed that it has 65+ Wh battery like all other snapdragon laptops. It has 54Wh, G14 has 73Wh. Definitely not half, but still impressive.
well one of qualcomm engineer already debunk this. qualcomm actually did delivers what it promises. the big problem is that qualcomm doesn't really have much control over all third party apps and even windows itself. the whole point of windows it just, everything runs. perfect backward compability, but apple don't really care about backward compability, cause their focus are user expierence.
the battery size should be mention. g14 has 35% larger battery than surface 7. g14, when unplugged automatically turn off the gpu. so only cpu+igpu ryzen 9 8845hs vs x elite, x elite win in power efficiency arround 20-30%. and they are the same 4nm chip.
Crimson, just want to say bingeing your channel is the reason why I bought the '24 4070 G14 to upgrade my aging base M1 16GB MacBook. I'm a coder first, gamer second and absolutely loved my M1, but I can safely say this is quite the leap in hardware. There are some obvious sacrifices that had to be made coming from what I'd say was one of the best thin-and-lights during its time, namely fan noise and battery life. A personal preference of mine is *nix over Windows, but it's not too much of a dealbreaker for me. That said, this is a very different class of laptop so I knew some sacrifices had to be made. I got the G14 32GB 4070 for $1500 USD, and for a do-everything that has an amazing screen and sound system, can actually game at native res (+ DLSS etc.), and pretty good everything else, I'd say I got quite the steal. Its replacing other portables and desktops, so it's a big win for me. I know the fate of this laptop may be replaced with a Mac in the far future, just because I very, very much like macOS as a development platform that you can still use on the daily without much tinkering (relative to Linux). But Apple gatekeeps that OS behind their products, which is a shame because the spec I want is $4000 USD; other than the unified RAM and better off-charger efficiency I can't say is an absurd $2500 hardware upgrade everywhere else. Tsk, Apple. Anyway, thanks Crimson!
Im glad i could help your with your decision, thank you! It really is good at pretty much everything you throw at it (of course the battery life on the M-series macbooks is still unbeatable though!) It's by far my favorite laptop yet, and im excited for what they might do with it in the future :)
@@willyft5430 Best Buy is currently selling the G14 4060 for 1000-1100$ i think, and the 4070 for slightly more. I'm not from America though, so i dont have updated prices on that
@@willyft5430 Got it from BestBuy in the US. It was the Independence Day sale + open box (literally mint condition but was missing the charger) which knocked it all the way down $1468 without tax IIRC? When I saw that price I knew I had to get it, and while I had to pick it up 100 miles away I was like 'this is never happening again' lol. I was right though, open-box now is like $1800 for the 4070 :S Word of warning though, the charger for full wattage is not cheap and mine didn't come with one. You can get a SlimQ charger + adapter to push the full 180W wattage, but it can only push max 100W on USB-C and the full wattage charger plug is proprietary. So buying a charger for yourself might not be worth the hassle and cost for you. It was definitely for me though.
To be fair to the Surface, it's battery is way smaller than the one on the Zephyrus. But still, getting the same battery life as a gaming laptop is not a good look.
amazing work and video like always! about the surface battery life its probably because of the battery capacity the surface has 43 wh and the zephyrus has 73 wh battery.
your video is much more satisfiying to watch (compared to other reviewer), great music choice, and i like the dude(is that from tf2?) who dancing when you switch topics
would the g14 be nice for a desktop replacement (non intensive gaming purposes such as playing league or overwatch), hooked up to a monitor when at home, and take laptop with when on the go?
@mobeen369 It mostly does! I use a usb-c dock/dongle on the right usb-c port (which connects to the dGPU) to connect it to my monitor and keyboard/mouse/headset. Keep in mind that the laptop's screen is 16:10 and your monitor is probably 16:9, so icons on your desktop MIGHT get moved in rare instances, but that shouldnt be too much of an issue :) Other than that, it runs smoothly, and performance is great.
Just bought my g14 RTX 4060 and I love everything about it. Only thing I don’t really like is how grainy the oled screen looks while browsing my files and seeing the dark grey background. This seems to be a thing with oled screens.
I wonder how a g14 with a snapdragon x-elite would pan out since according to qualcomm a dedicated GPU isn't necessarily out of the question. I feel like battery life could be killer on a device like that when doing non-gpu tasks and i feel you could even get 3-4 hrs of gaming targeting 60 fps 1080p (assuming games will be optimized to work better with arm cpu), yeah i know the GPU is what will be draining the most in gaming scenarios but its still a fact that current x86 CPUs use a lot of power while playing games. A g14 with 18-20 hrs normal use battery and 3-4 hrs gaming/heavy workload would be a dream
Was the battery test video played in an ARM browser? This first generation of ARM laptop processors seems nice, but it will take time for the Windows ecosystem to be more compatible with 64ARM architecture. Software is the main issue now, but I have good expectations for the future. Also, laptop gamers with NVidea cards and ARM will be a fun combination in the future.
They both ran on Chrome, and Google put out an optimization update for snapdragon processors on the 26th of march, so it was running on the ARM version of chrome. Im also VERY excited to see if we'll get any arm laptops with actual gpus :D
No mention of settings or battery profiles, brightness, screen refresh rate, for the battery test. Running video alone, the Surface should technically last at least 13-15 hours. It would be nice if you can redo it with telling the user what settings you are using and also comparing the standby times.
Loved the video, but the two PC Is two world appart, One Is meant for gaming while the other for productivity but It has been fun to see the surface beeing destroyed and getting the same battery Life of the g14
Excelent video, thanks for the effort. But on performance tests, you're probably you're using the nvdia gpu. But anyways for the price, rog zephyrus is a way better product than any snapdragon x elite laptops in terms of performance, but speaking of battery and lightweight devices I think snapdragon x elite laptops are better.
AMD and Intel are 5 years behind apple. They need to stop making heaters. My iphone A17pro processor is faster in a single core performance then this Ryzen 9' We need better CPU for windows.
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gongrats on 4k subs and 69 videos XD. also can u compare the new lenovo yoga pro 9i 3.2k mini led and 4060 vs the zephyrus g16 it will be an awesome comparison :D
Imagine getting beaten by a gaming laptop in battery life. That is a huge L for Qualcomm.
i mean the g14 basically has twice the battery capacity of the surface
@Rusty01 right. its so weird to say arm isnt doing much and got beat by a ryzen 9 when the same video shows that it kept up with a battery twice its size
@@Rusty01 My bad. I just assumed that it has 65+ Wh battery like all other snapdragon laptops.
It has 54Wh, G14 has 73Wh. Definitely not half, but still impressive.
well one of qualcomm engineer already debunk this. qualcomm actually did delivers what it promises. the big problem is that qualcomm doesn't really have much control over all third party apps and even windows itself. the whole point of windows it just, everything runs. perfect backward compability, but apple don't really care about backward compability, cause their focus are user expierence.
the battery size should be mention.
g14 has 35% larger battery than surface 7.
g14, when unplugged automatically turn off the gpu. so only cpu+igpu
ryzen 9 8845hs vs x elite, x elite win in power efficiency arround 20-30%. and they are the same 4nm chip.
Crimson, just want to say bingeing your channel is the reason why I bought the '24 4070 G14 to upgrade my aging base M1 16GB MacBook.
I'm a coder first, gamer second and absolutely loved my M1, but I can safely say this is quite the leap in hardware.
There are some obvious sacrifices that had to be made coming from what I'd say was one of the best thin-and-lights during its time, namely fan noise and battery life. A personal preference of mine is *nix over Windows, but it's not too much of a dealbreaker for me. That said, this is a very different class of laptop so I knew some sacrifices had to be made.
I got the G14 32GB 4070 for $1500 USD, and for a do-everything that has an amazing screen and sound system, can actually game at native res (+ DLSS etc.), and pretty good everything else, I'd say I got quite the steal. Its replacing other portables and desktops, so it's a big win for me.
I know the fate of this laptop may be replaced with a Mac in the far future, just because I very, very much like macOS as a development platform that you can still use on the daily without much tinkering (relative to Linux). But Apple gatekeeps that OS behind their products, which is a shame because the spec I want is $4000 USD; other than the unified RAM and better off-charger efficiency I can't say is an absurd $2500 hardware upgrade everywhere else. Tsk, Apple.
Anyway, thanks Crimson!
Im glad i could help your with your decision, thank you!
It really is good at pretty much everything you throw at it (of course the battery life on the M-series macbooks is still unbeatable though!)
It's by far my favorite laptop yet, and im excited for what they might do with it in the future :)
Where did you get the G14 at that price?! 😭 I want to buy one too.
@@willyft5430 Best Buy is currently selling the G14 4060 for 1000-1100$ i think, and the 4070 for slightly more.
I'm not from America though, so i dont have updated prices on that
@@willyft5430 Got it from BestBuy in the US. It was the Independence Day sale + open box (literally mint condition but was missing the charger) which knocked it all the way down $1468 without tax IIRC? When I saw that price I knew I had to get it, and while I had to pick it up 100 miles away I was like 'this is never happening again' lol. I was right though, open-box now is like $1800 for the 4070 :S
Word of warning though, the charger for full wattage is not cheap and mine didn't come with one. You can get a SlimQ charger + adapter to push the full 180W wattage, but it can only push max 100W on USB-C and the full wattage charger plug is proprietary. So buying a charger for yourself might not be worth the hassle and cost for you. It was definitely for me though.
To be fair to the Surface, it's battery is way smaller than the one on the Zephyrus. But still, getting the same battery life as a gaming laptop is not a good look.
I think the g14 is what im getting arm on windows has a long way to catch up in all round performance
This is the best video uploaded at 4am I can recall :))
And yes I better get to sleep xD
In India it's 1:49 pm 😄
same here
amazing work and video like always! about the surface battery life its probably because of the battery capacity the surface has 43 wh and the zephyrus has 73 wh battery.
Yeah, I think with the same battery size, Surface would've won the test. But I'd still get G14 simply because it has dGPU for when it matters.
your video is much more satisfiying to watch (compared to other reviewer), great music choice, and i like the dude(is that from tf2?) who dancing when you switch topics
Thanks so much :D
He's from Gmod, but probably taken from a cs mod hehe
I love this channel
The touchpad rattle is very annoying on both G14 and G16, I hate it, I own G16 and it's the worst thing about G16 for me
Thanks! what a great comparison, love your style, It's so relaxing!
Thank you very much :D
Glad it helped!
This was the most sensible comparison for ARM vs x86.
G14 4060 is actually 100$ cheaper than surface 7 512gb, unfortunately in US only (Fuk them)
How you make that g14 battery life goes so long?
I have a custom Silent profile together with Eco mode and 60Hz. I'll make a full video on my settings for the G14 soon :)
@@crimsontechyt please do! i just got a g14 2024 and would love to see your settings!
would the g14 be nice for a desktop replacement (non intensive gaming purposes such as playing league or overwatch), hooked up to a monitor when at home, and take laptop with when on the go?
Yes, that's exactly what i use it for :)
Oh wow, and it runs all smooth, and seamless?
@mobeen369 It mostly does!
I use a usb-c dock/dongle on the right usb-c port (which connects to the dGPU) to connect it to my monitor and keyboard/mouse/headset. Keep in mind that the laptop's screen is 16:10 and your monitor is probably 16:9, so icons on your desktop MIGHT get moved in rare instances, but that shouldnt be too much of an issue :)
Other than that, it runs smoothly, and performance is great.
thats so cool to hear woww
Amazing video!
Thank you! :)
Mine has an AMD Ryzen 9 sticker but not the 'AMD Ryzen 9 AI" sticker...
Then you probably have the 2023 or 2022 version :)
Great comparison
Thank you :)
Just bought my g14 RTX 4060 and I love everything about it. Only thing I don’t really like is how grainy the oled screen looks while browsing my files and seeing the dark grey background. This seems to be a thing with oled screens.
I wonder how a g14 with a snapdragon x-elite would pan out since according to qualcomm a dedicated GPU isn't necessarily out of the question. I feel like battery life could be killer on a device like that when doing non-gpu tasks and i feel you could even get 3-4 hrs of gaming targeting 60 fps 1080p (assuming games will be optimized to work better with arm cpu), yeah i know the GPU is what will be draining the most in gaming scenarios but its still a fact that current x86 CPUs use a lot of power while playing games. A g14 with 18-20 hrs normal use battery and 3-4 hrs gaming/heavy workload would be a dream
Is the yoga pro 7i OLED with rtx 4050 good ?
I cannot believe the Microsoft is still using that POS proprietary charging port. I seriously hate it.
Was the battery test video played in an ARM browser?
This first generation of ARM laptop processors seems nice, but it will take time for the Windows ecosystem to be more compatible with 64ARM architecture. Software is the main issue now, but I have good expectations for the future.
Also, laptop gamers with NVidea cards and ARM will be a fun combination in the future.
They both ran on Chrome, and Google put out an optimization update for snapdragon processors on the 26th of march, so it was running on the ARM version of chrome.
Im also VERY excited to see if we'll get any arm laptops with actual gpus :D
Please make the comparison with the Rog Zephyrus G16.
Can you help me? I have g16 intel 7 155h with 4070 and my basic task is around 3 hours, do you know why is that?
What do you mean by basic task?
The G16 has worse battery life than the G14, since the Ultra 7 is a lot more power hungry than the Ryzen 9 in the G14
@@crimsontechyt oh I see just wondered how my didn’t goes up to 7 hours work time, I meant by basic use watching RUclips and films in the internet.
@@galaxy-0175 Your GPU might be on, are you in eco mode while doing this?
@@crimsontechyt I checked my gpu (on eco mode) and I as well disabled cpu boost on silent mode and all that gave me 5 h30m working time
How's the battery health? did u check on hwmonitor? @@galaxy-0175
You need to try the new matebook x pro 😁
Have you check the battery during standby time/sleep mode? X86 have poor battery during that than ARM. The Phawx made a good video about it
link pls
@@meccu19 ruclips.net/video/jQeasLgURN8/видео.htmlsi=2wc2rqm4OjNS2XYc
No mention of settings or battery profiles, brightness, screen refresh rate, for the battery test. Running video alone, the Surface should technically last at least 13-15 hours. It would be nice if you can redo it with telling the user what settings you are using and also comparing the standby times.
I mention settings at the top of the screen before the battery "test". They both run at 60Hz, best battery life, 100% brightness, and backlights off.
Add the transcend 14 too
Loved the video, but the two PC Is two world appart, One Is meant for gaming while the other for productivity but It has been fun to see the surface beeing destroyed and getting the same battery Life of the g14
Excelent video, thanks for the effort. But on performance tests, you're probably you're using the nvdia gpu. But anyways for the price, rog zephyrus is a way better product than any snapdragon x elite laptops in terms of performance, but speaking of battery and lightweight devices I think snapdragon x elite laptops are better.
can mini-led beats oled xD
In brightness yes, but contrast is still the best on OLED :)
can you link the usb charger 🙏 🙏
amzn.to/4cSj5Nw
Why is there no narration? The music is annoying
Because i like it this way :)
AMD and Intel are 5 years behind apple.
They need to stop making heaters.
My iphone A17pro processor is faster in a single core performance then this Ryzen 9'
We need better CPU for windows.
100% brightness🤣offcourse,
Well you gotta know how long it lasts **outside**, in which case you'll need the full brightness lol
ARM is already faster than x86, just look at the m3max beating a 14700K K!! Not HX!,
or nvidia hpc cpu's beating all other server cpu's