ARTEZA Colored Pencils - Should You Be Worried?
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- There has been a lot of discussion lately about the quality of certain batches of Arteza colored pencils. In this video watch me test 3 different Arteza colored pencil sets from different years: pre-2018; pre-2019; post 2019. Let’s see what happens when we hit them with water-we even compare them side-by-side with Prismacolor Premier and Faber-Castell Polychromos colored pencils.
Let’s also have a discussion about the marketing and sales tactics of these companies, and the expectations we should have for the art supplies we purchase.
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I really appreciate how this video wasn't dramatic. I've honestly thought most of the reviews of this "issue" was overtly overblown. I know that this is an issue that some users will worry with, but for myself it doesn't. I don't plan on getting water involved with my coloring. Im really glad I've discovered Coloring Bliss and I appreciate your honest opinions. ❤️
Allen I’m so glad our video was helpful to you and I’m so glad you find our content here at Coloring Bliss valuable. 😊😊
I honestly think this could actually be an advantage for some. How cool would it be to colour flowers and dilute the pencil almost like watercolour and drag it out to other areas.
Allen, exactly! I've seen a couple of videos and it was as if it was their sole purpose in life to damage Arteza.
I don't have their colour pencils, by the way, so I can't judge, but I do have their gouache, acrylic and oil paints and they are a joy to work with.
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I have always used both in mixed media. I generally use the colored pencils over watercolor not under so I have never had any issues
Tamara that’s a great “order of operations”. There are many art supplies that need to be used in the correct order to avoid issues. Now we know this may be another one of those situations.
I am so sorry to hear about your dad's illness. You are both in my prayers. Love to you both.♥️
Thank you for a measured and thoughtful review of what is happening. I always appreciate the way your channel handles bringing us information. Thanks 💚
MrsC B I’m glad you found the video helpful. We try very hard to make useful content for everyone.
I love how you review Jennifer. It's so fun and light, yet informative and looked at from all angles. 🥰
I started formal art classes back in the eighties, and the quality of mid-range “hobbyist” products are better than anything I could afford back in the day. I went back to art during Lockdown last year and I’m positively wallowing in the affordable art supplies. It’s amazing. I’m gradually putting together a professional grade watercolors (if you want an art scandal and haven’t heard yet, look into the Daniel Smith Primatek pigment issues), but otherwise I’m delighted with the quality of my mid-level supplies. (I just got the last set of Black Widow pencils, and now the dragon set. Hmm. Decisions.)
Thanks for all the honesty, I think a lot of colorists need to know the information you share. 👍🏻💕
Thank you for your informative review! I don't own any products by Arteza but I don't think they deserve the "cancel culture" attack. If you buy a budget friendly product, you will not get professional results. I'm just in it for the joy it brings me. Love your channel and your positive spirit ❤️🇨🇦
I agree, I’m here for learning and enjoyment in my retirement years. I’m not expecting to become a professional artist, so the midrange-to-cheap supplies fit my ability level and my fixed income.
I agree. Most people buying these pencils are using them dry in colouring books, not making works of art to hang in the National Gallery.
And I know there are some amazingly talented colourists but the majority of those use Polys or Prismas or Caran d’Ache or Derwent due to the way those pencils perform.
I agree. We need to be careful how we treat companies and each other. Expect respect and act with respect. Thanks for your comment.
I'd like to know how the various brands react to a light coat of spray fixative. That could help with the mixed media/wet media issue.
That was my thoughts exactly with the spray. I think it would make a good video if they re-did this with another set of recent purchased pencils and try a fixative. Apparently though another channel did a video on this 9 months ago and showed that the pencils were actually worse than here. The thing about Chinese manufacturing they aren't afraid to cut corners.
I bought my Arteza’s a couple of years ago and I have no problem with them! I wanted something that was a step down from prisma’s and it was but I love them and they are also precious to me as well!!
W P I’m so glad your enjoying your Arteza pencils. Keep coloring!!! 😊
I agree with your assessment on expectations. I love these pencils. I don't expect liquid solubility because I use pencils dry and I think paper between coloring pages works and there is no chemical exposure. If l wanted water color pencils this company does make them. If there's something that you love here then making another purchase makes sense. I have many pencil sets in very different price ranges. I enjoy these pencils because of their beautiful color saturation and blend abilities. Also color quality is comparable to prismas without the fragility that is a problem with them. My favorite pencils are the polychromos. But they have some issues too. Point being if your in a marriage with a great friend you don't show them the door because you don't like all the same movies.
Really appreciate yr honest, frank & fair appraisal! Thank u both so much!
I love the way you combined the Professional Brands to this too.
Hoping some start to calm down over this...
Christa I’m so glad we did grab those 2 professional brands. If I had the time and energy it would have been fun to test more brands.
Right? It’s so sad how everyone just jumped on bandwagon on hating the Arteza pencils just for this. I mean I understand the professional artists or those who sell their artwork, but then again they would need lightfast pencils not Arteza.
I'm so glad you mentioned that arteza is just an art supply distributor and not a manufacturer! It's not very well known but I think it's important, especially considering how expensive arteza is.
Also completely agree on the sleazy marketing.
And their prices used to be really competitive, but then they started to become more and more popular, and prices went up.
@@leonnehaaijman4709 Somebody has to pay for all the free products that RUclipsrs are receiving, I guess. :')
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Prayers for your daddy 🙏💗 Thank you for all your art supply testing and reviews. I really appreciate it. 😁
I love my prismas, i have bought these budget brands and they are cheap, you get what you pay for. And you are right, need to have the right expectations.
Lucia...Exactly. 😊
But they aren't even that cheap! You can get the full set of Prismas for less than 100 dollars.
Prismas are cheap too. Try polychromos for more detailed work (they keep a point well) or Caran D'Ache for quality. They last so much longer they are still good value
It's interesting to see the difference between the pencils from different time periods. I have the 2018 set and never had an issue with them! Granted I also don't normally do mixed media. However this is great information since if I do run my 2018 set into the ground (not likely with all the pencil sets I have), I'm not sure I would buy the post-2019 due to the awful blending. As a side note, I absolutely love my swatch book I ordered!
Pricing changes a lot over time, that's a huge thing. Right now the 72 set Prismacolor Premier are €72 here, while you can get the Arteza Expert 72 set for €25 (just bought them). That's quite a price difference. Interesting video, but this 'issue' isn't an issue for me personally. I always use my colored pencils last in a mixed-media piece, so no more water applied after I use them.
I will never buy prismacolor pencils again, the core is great but the casings are absolutely awful 😖. Every time I sharpen them the wood splits or the core drops out, the quality has gone down so much I feel they are not worth paying their exorbitant prices.
I’m a true beginner because I’ve never known how to shade, contour, highlight or blend until I started watching videos in December 2020. For Christmas, I got a 120 set of Castle Arts colored pencils which was quite an upgrade from 36 Crayolas. But because the Castle Arts aren’t open stock and one has to purchase the entire set again to get replacement pencils; I find myself going back to my small set of Crayolas while I’m training my eyes to see light and shadows and and my hand to color very lightly with very pointed pencils to layer my colors. These can be replaced easily on my retirement’s fixed income. If/As I grow as a colorist, I can move back to my Castle Arts and explore more as I start saving for Prisma Colors and PolyChromos. I appreciate learning from you and I have benefited from the swatch charts and other materials I’ve been able to download. You both provide a great service to me, and to many colorists and artists of all abilities. My main focus is to learn new skills and have fun doing so. Thank you again for all both of you do!
Marsha I am excited to hear about your coloring journey. Have fun learning and don’t be too afraid to dive into those Castle Art pencils. I know the fear of avoiding your “precious “ tools but you are worth it. You may find the learning process easier and more enjoyable.
Good luck and have fun!
You can get castle arts in smaller sets now I also follow Shell Arty on you tube
Marsha Braswell Welcome to the world of adult coloring!!! Our fearless leader speaks true (always, actually! Just one of many reasons we ❤️ her!) - you'll do your best learning, and easiest learning, using your best available tools. It sounds like you're doing your homework where it comes to value for money - good for you! A couple of additional options you may already know about - alternate pathways to filling your toy/tool chest: 1. Crayola also makes a set of 50, as well as a set of 100 colored pencils, both fairly budget-friendly in the USA at the moment (
Hey there!. I'm one of those people on a tight budget too. One thing I like is that Prismacolors are sold in sets of like 12 pencils, and sometimes you can find those at Walmart as well as the craft stores for a good price. Michael's also has them open stock, and has their own store-brand version of them. You can just buy a couple here and there and build up what you want. Heck, I've even learned some neat techniques with good old Crayola crayons from watching Jennifer's channel. You can use anything and get a nice result. Welcome to the coloring crew!
I so enjoyed reading your reply. Welcome to the wonderful world of adult coloring. Perhaps when your budget allows, purchase some open stock prisma colors in colors you love, even 3 pencils to try blending with them. Places like Dick Blick sell open stock and it is not so frightening to buy 3 pencils at a time. This month prismas, next month Blicks, the following month another brand and then you can see which you enjoy, before buying a small 12 set of basic colors.
I would say one of the things you are paying that premium price for with the professional companies is consistency and quality control, as you said we need realistic expectations when going for the cheaper option, and deciding whether that is worth it for you personally. That being said - I'm kinda impressed with how well the pre 2019 artezas performed in the bleeding test against Prismacolour and Polychromos!
Lucy you are definitely right about part our money going towards quality control in the more expensive products. I will gladly put some of my dollars towards knowing I will get a great product. But like I said in the video...I’m glad we have the cheaper products so we can try and experiment with a variety of art mediums.
Thanks for your comment.
Thank you for a balanced review of the situation. Thank you for bringing in the higher quality as well. I love your setting expectations talk. I dont own arteza colored pencils but hate to see folks so negative about any company.
I can relate to your father. I got the 150 prismacolor set and my mom was thrilled i was getting back into groove. She has wanted me to get back into it for 35 yrs. Sometimes the art isnt the only thing that comes along for the ride.
I got my set in summer 2020 they don’t bleed at all it’s all good for me and Arteza customer service are so really great always towards me in the past.
Natalia that’s great to hear! Have fun coloring and thanks for your comment.
Same for me, my Arteza didn't react to water at all. I bought them in July 2020. I prefer my 72 Prisma's over my 120 Arteza because they are a bit softer and they don't cause my hand to hurt as fast.
I use Arteza products for card making. I use their color paint brushes and fine point markers to highlight my drawings. However, I use Prisma colored pencils for sketching and blending. Thank you for your presentation. As always, your tutorials and demonstrations are so full of informative details that I probably would not have considered before watching your videos. I appreciate your honesty and non biased opinion on these products. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience 🙏 😊
I just ordered the Arteza from amazon for $14.44 for 48 pencils. That is 30 cents per pencil. I can afford 14.00. I don't do mixed media. We shall see if they work good enough. Thanks for the review. HUGS
My Arteza's from 2018 ran like a track star.
😂😂😂
I'm honestly not sure why this blew up all of a sudden. I thought it was common knowledge that Arteza colored pencils - at least specific batches - had the issue of behaving like watercolor. My old 72 set has this issue, my newer 120 one does not. I specifically tested this when I received both sets.
I also definitely agree that Arteza (and to an extent Castle Arts now) are too expensive for what they are. I mean $80 for 120 Arteza or $85-$90 for 150 Prismacolor pencils? NO CONTEST!! I remember getting the 72 set for less than $20 and I got the 120 set for $40 (I was not planning to get them at the launch price of $75 or whatever but at $40? No brainer!).
Here's my take on what happened. Arteza launched coloring supplies aimed specifically at colorists, you can see it by their range. They literally do every arty/crafty supply you can think of. They launched at a price point that's not too expensive and the pencils were definitely better than what you'd find at Walmart. So they're aiming for adults (not kids) who can afford to spend on coloring supplies but who don't particularly care about lightfast ratings. But then their sales blew up and they realized people are willing to spend quite a bit more, so they hiked up the price to where they're as expensive as Prismacolors! WTH!
I see the same thing happening with the Black Widow pencils. I have no doubt they're nice, excellent even. But when a set of pencils costs more than the 150 set of Prismacolors, I hesitate to buy/recommend them. I don't think they would be worth the price and I'm not even a huge fan of Prismas LOL.
Let me end this rather looong comment with this: If you can afford multiple sets of pencils or you like collecting art supplies, then yes go for these (I call them) 'colorist' brands. If you want just one set of pencils or don't have space/time/money for multiple sets, just get the 150 Prismas and you're all set.
I agree, 100%!
Agreed! Prismacolors have issues, but end of the day, your money gets quality. Sometimes off-centered or splintered, even a rust spot or two on the tin (all happened with my pack), but it’s quality overall. I trust Prismas. If it goes onto my paper, I know it’s good. Assuming I can sharpen it, lol. Still, mostly good product. And price difference from Luminance, Polychromos, even Derwent Coloursoft make the risk worth it. The price of Arteza doesn’t justify the issues. It’s a crafter’s/hobbiest’s pencil at a Prisma price. And that’s not okay. Double Crayola price would be about right. Crayola is $7 for 50 pencils. $15 for 100.
They don't behave like watercolor. They are gummy and sticky when wet. It is not nice.
The price difference depends on part of world you live in, here prismacolor is mor expensive. Castel Arts are much cheaper. And polychromos are cheaper as well. I think Arteza problem is overblown only a problem if you use mixed media with them.
@@Schwefeldrache, yup, same here, I live in Spain. I can get the 120-set of Arteza's for around EUR 60.00, which I think isn't bad at all. The Prismacolors are way, WAY more expensive than that.
Thank you for the comparison information. I always enjoy your videos. You are always so level headed and knowledgeable.
I’m glad you enjoyed it Laverne
It matters very much to be fully informed so thanks for this FULL informational video. Very much appreciated and we need more like you in YT land.
Excellent information, thank you for the well researched and fair presentation of what is happening! You and Steve are my go to channel for honest information, THANK YOU
Great video! I’ve been using Prismacolor pencils since art school 30 years ago. Thank you for all you do❤️❤️❤️❤️
Michelle I’m glad you liked the video. That’s awesome that you have such a long history with Prismacolor!
I was worried at first, I thought why is Jennifer jumping on the Arteza “will it run” video bandwagon? But I needn’t have been worried, as usual you gave a fair, balanced and honest review and opinion.
*Most* people (not all before commenters come @ me) will use these pencils dry in their colouring books and would have no inkling or care of how they react with water and they’d remain just as happy as they currently are. Wax based coloured pencils have always released some pigment when wetted and always will. It’s a balance between more wax and more pigment.
With regards to price, in the US Prismacolors are much more keenly priced than in the UK. 150 Prismas are £150, whereas 120 Arteza are £60. So to us, Prismas are double the price.
You are so kind ArtJourneyUK! Steve and I really debated about this video but in the end, we decided because we had experience with the company and so many sets of pencils, we had a unique perspective and an opportunity to do an Interesting test. I’m glad you found the video to be fair and helpful.
Also...I wish I could make pencils and all art supplies more affordable for your region. So sorry.
I agree. I trust Jennifer and Steve. I love my Arteza products. I was upset bec they advertise that their tubed watercolor paints could be panned...didn’t work at all...but they credited me for the paints. Anyway, I was-am- new to adult coloring, so Arteza was affordable. I use them for coloring not mixed media. I appreciate this review.
Thank you for your detailed description and assisting those of us who may be new to coloring and supplies to understand the supplies, and how to adjust our expectations.
Jennifer I hope I was helpful. Thanks for watching and good luck with your art journey
It would be a useful test to do some swatches of different pencils (and brands) and see how they react to spray fixatives. Do they run when the fixative is applied ?
Thank you for all your videos you make. I discovered your channel and have been watching all your videos. I love them and have been learning alot. Today I purchased your Quick Color Picker Book and I'm so excited. I think it will help me alot with learning about colors and picking colors. Thank you.❤
It's lovely to hear that your dad enjoyed colouring x❤
Your videos make me feel nostalgic and safe, like I’m back in the library from my elementary school surrounded by the smell of old books and interesting stories to choose from, and I’m listening to the librarian tell my class a story as we sit around with the impatience and excitement of young kids wanting to explore. Does that make sense ?
I work with dementia affected patients and we too use colouring-in books. It helps in some many ways. Helps in fostering good social relations conversation and achievement plus it's fun. Staff and patients colour in together I have just started using colouring books as I now have sleep problems. When I can't sleep get up and colour. It relaxes my mind better than medication. I would not have believed this before. I'm no artist but enjoy my effects. Find your channel very helpful and inspiring
It matters to me because I would like to begin using fixative but I have seen what happens to artwork with these pencils that run. I like very much to be informed. You did a terrific job, thank you for your video!🥰
Lori thanks for your kind comment. 😊
SO glad to have stumbled on to your video!! Thank you for your insightful review!! I was actually watching videos comparing Castle Arts to Arteza. Since both are in a similar price range and all. I have not been very happy with the Arteza. Many of the pencils I have (I got the Expert 120 set) are scratchy and will not blend well. In fact, some of them are so terrible, I have gotten out my Polychromos and Prismas to help blend better. I can say the Artezas simply just do NOT break though. Not in the set I got. I broke one. And that was because I dropped it and then accidentally rolled my chair over it while looking for it. Luckily, just popped off the tip but it was such a weird brake that it broke in the pencil sharpener once. LOL. Anyway, I have been trying to find the right pencils for me. I want a set that is good for just coloring. Maybe use some of the professional ones with it to create different blends/highlights/shadows/colors/etc. But I wanted to leave my professional pencils to be used with my drawings. I don't really care for the Prismas I got. The colors are beautiful AND they are very creamy and blend well. My only issue is that the majority of these have broken at least once. And I have tried different sharpeners.. They still break. A LOT. For a professional set, even thought they cost very little more than Arteza, this is unacceptable. I will not be buying them again. So I have looked at Derwent (to replace Prisma), Castle Art and even Amazon basic to replace Arteza. I can tell you the Amazon basics, for their price point, NOT BAD!! They just need a larger color variety. I can say they feel like a crayola in my hand but put down like I would expect Arteza to go down. These will be my travel set for coloring pages when I am riding down to Florida this year. hahaha. Anyway, thanks again. I probably wrote entirely too much. But I appreciate all of your work!!
The problem I had when they broke up with water is they also tended to spread a bit if sprayed with a fixative, which kind of ruined several pages before I figured out what was happening. Otherwise, I do really like the Arteza pencils. But the new set I ordered in February, I returned. They were terrible to work with. Disappointing
I personally love my new Arteza 72 colored pencil set (new one's with the snail on the tin). They are so smooth and vibrant, I find that they blend beautifully.
I do also have Prismacolor Premier colored pencils...which of course are lovely.
Water test, I've just done the same test on Prisma and Arteza with various colors and they are about the same. Quality, some of my Prisma are scratchy and some of the Arteza are scratchy. Overall both are smooth. I find that a lot of the time the Arteza pencils do a better job of filling the grain of the paper.
As to expert (Arteza) to me they are expert quality pencils vs. Premier (Prismacolor) to me they are premier compared to their scholar sets but not compared to Polychromos Pencils or Caran D'ache (and that goes for both these companies).
Their tactics: I'm not seeing their tactics as anything different from Prismacolor.
Quality: Arteza is a pretty new company and growing fast, I'm sure they will make more changes as they go along. Prismacolor has done the same thing...I don't remember the channel on here but a lady managed to buy prismacolor sets all the way from their first set to I think it was 2018 or 19 and their formulas change along the way. I've seen long term Prismacolor users call the new Prismacolors rubbish because of the quality issues with build, how easily their leads are crumbling or break, off center cores, splitting pencils...blah blah.
I love my Arteza and my Prisma. I'm not seeing or feeling much difference.
Lmao deffo sponsored by Arteza
How does someone get color pencils from pre 2018? O.o especially so many.
It matters if you need to spray a staler over your art. It doesn’t matter if your making beautiful cooking art in your book. They are fine pencils just keep the water away from them.
Beth thanks for your comment. Definitely depends on the person and the situation.
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Sounds delicious!! I’m finishing up my Jimmy John’s sandwich and salt & vinegar chips. ❤️❤️
@@ColoringBliss that sounds good too! I’m on a low bread kick right now due to fighting my blood sugar levels while being on steroids 😓
Thank you for doing this test! When I saw people complaining again about their new Arteza pencils running again, I thought to pull out my Prismas and PolyChromos and see how the water reacts with them as well. It’s only fair to compare against the Professional options. I don’t have the Arteza colored pencils, because I already have plenty of professional pencils but I do have their watercolor pencils and I find them to be better than other options I have, including some of the professional ones. All companies have some good products and some that aren’t so good. Also, thanks for the free gnome, I’m excited to color it this weekend!
So thankful to see an honest review, as always Jennifer and Steve...well done!!
Thank you for your honesty about products. Now that I’m pretty old I draw just to please myself, but I do expect honesty out of a company so that I know what I’m buying and how it will perform. If I find that a company is actually misrepresenting their product I won’t buy from them again.
I mean, for some it’s a huge con, but it can actually be a pro, if you don’t have watercolours and need that little cute bleed. They can actually go for it as a “specialty pencil”.
I really agree that we must see both sides - pros and cons, not just praise or hate something.
And also this is why I research a lot before I buy because most often than not I have just one shot at buying the best for the money I have.
I didn’t get Arteza because I couldn’t get it open stock and that was the only reason, because to me bleeding is something that I don’t care.
Egija I think your comment about “you get one shot” is very important. Investing in the right tool the first time is very tricky when there is so much to choose from and the marketing is so confusing. Thanks for your comment
This truly cleared up my thinking with Arteza!
I Truly APPRECIATE What you and your husband do.THANK YOU!!!💞🤟🙏❣
It took me to 12+minutes into the video to notice the pupper lol. So cute!♡♡
For years I heard about the wonderful Prismacolor Premiers and bought the 150 about 3 years ago and I have to say they are not my favs - way too soft and I rarely use them. I quite like the 120 Artezas I got at Christmas this year.
Would you recommend Artezas for a beginner? I looove coloring in adult coloring books and i want to learn to color like a pro, but i know with the classic faber castell's i cant become what i want, because i can't layer a lot of colors at all with those. I am i doubt if i should buy Arteza's, Goldfaber or polycromos (lol just a small case of 36 colors)
@@MissMoi1985 yes, I like them very much. They have a good range of colours, soft, but not too soft, hold a point quite well.
@@marleycritcher8068 i ordered the 72 set, should be here on saturday, can't wait 😍😍
I like my Arteza pencils 😊
I appreciate your honest reviews! I had just ordered the 120 colored pencils, and canceled it...then got thier watercolor pencils instead! If I hadn't come across that video today, I would have been getting those first ones on Tuesday! Since I wanted a set I could color with on the couch, and actually have more versatility, I'm really glad I was able to switch!
Now, I also bought the Inktense Pencils 72 set- last month and used them in a fabric project and a painting. I love them!
Also, I just ordered the Arteza 24 half pan metallic watercolors. I'm going to experiment with mixing them with the different types of media I just mentioned!
Thank you Both!
Oh, I just sent in a join request for your Facebook group...and forgot to hit the "I agree to the rules"button ! I agree!
everyone's attacking arteza now
look they are cheaper, have lower expectations
if you don't like cheaper pencils don't buy them
everyone was attacking prisma at 1 point and even today I see people attack them but heres information for you I've only been using prisma for 7 years and I can get a defined point with little to no wastage, change your sharpener for a crank or electric jakar and you'll never be as unhappy, I've had 1 breakage in that time
yes I went off topic but I can't understand unnecessary hate when prisma changed hands so quality will shift but artiza aren't processional at all, they are good cheap alternatives for casual drawings for yourself, they are not commission quality
I think some are mad bc arteza 120 set says "expert " meaning they are for professionals and they charge $80 almost as much as a 150 prismas atm
Snake you are very right. I am a Prisma girl and like most tools you just need to know how to use them right and you won’t have problems with them.
I think one big problem is all these reviewers that keep trying to put Arteza at the same quality level as Prisma. They just are not and can not be at the same level until they can control their products.
@@ColoringBliss I consider arteza personally at the same level as derwent, middle of the range but good for those who are doing personal drawing maybe even koh I noor can be in this group
Faber castell polychromo, prismacolour, cretacolour and luminance are more high end for those professionals like copic, those that make money and lots of it for commissioned work
@snake Prismacolor is also not really high end pencils. These pencils tend to break very often (i have derwent drawing pencils and they are extremely creamy and soft and they don't break) and prismas don't have high lightfastness. What makes a high quality pencil is the lightfastness, the pigments, break resistence and how they were processed (for example the wood)
@@lisa4471 really I've never had any breakages at all and haven't in 7 years
There has been this "thing" about counterfeit art supplies, specifically color pencils, circulating on art forums. To give the major brands credit, I know they will change their fonts, font sizes and placements on their pencils. It's all part of freshening their brand. Old sets are still in circulation and makes for confusion when the newer ones are on the market. I personally have old pencils that are over fifty years old. Other than confusion, the quality of these brands, Spectracolor, Prismacolor, Kor-I-Noor and Faber Castell are the same. Quality rules. Counterfeit pencils should be obvious. Packaging is different, quality of the pencils and their core are different. It's true what they say about something being too good to be true, it isn't.
Companies change their formulas all the time. It's when they go the cheaper route they hurt themselves. Artists just starting out aren't clear about what's student grade or professional.. But you get educated as you go. The bad thing is when an artist feels ripped-off. Seriously, one bad review equals 10 lost purchases. Bad quality i.e. crumbling leads, split barrels, lousy binders and cheap fillers in a pencil will get people to stop buying them. Bad customer service will get a company a bad reputation and loss of sales they can't recover from. Vote with your dollars.
We know what brands are stable and worth the money we spend on them. That's why we have these lovely videos! Checking them out is important. Thanks for the work you do.
Thanks for joining the conversation. We address a lot of these ideas in this video. It is great to see so many people becoming more educated and savvy as they shop for art products.
I do think another reason we have seen this problem is since the pandemic began more people have, due to home quarantine & safety issues (low immune systems etc) began new hobbies. This with having to home school children has made any part of an art product harder to source. Everything from binder to pigment etc & to look further afield for their sources as many ppl have been laid of in non essential services.
Having said that I own no Arteza products & LOVE my Derwent & Faber Castel, both polychromos & watercolour. My Albrecht Druher I have owned for 35 yrs. Since the pandemic my art has been paramount & my collection & mediums has expanded hugely. Thank you for being a big part of my entertainment for information on all sorts of art mediums.
As I live in Australia & have a poor immune system I have been on lockdown for nigh on a year now & art has been the therapy I needed. Although I had not drawn for 30 yrs after bringing up 5 kids under 10 it took me 3 days for my muscle memory to return much to my astonishment. So never give up or give in and if you like the tools you use & they work for you, GREAT!!! God bless everyone & best wishes from Australia. Kisses to your adorable furbaby too. XXX
I bought their 72, pastels set and I’m excited! I LOVE using pastels for backgrounds. They have 3 neon, pastels that I’m excited try.
Those Valentine's Day pics you drew are gorgeous! You are so talented!
Doesn't matter if you bought a true artist grade pencil or crafters grade. They all run to some degree.
Tip for Arteza. Sign up for their newsletter. The colored pencils go on sale quite a bit. If you have made a previous purchase or Arteza brand anything, you can stack the sale discount with the discount printed on the package of Arteza products.
Wendy thanks for the Arteza purchasing advice. Sounds like they definitely have built in lots of room for deep discounts on their products if you know how to work their system.
Yep. I just did this to get their WC version👍😊 a lot cheaper than anywhere else at the moment.
Omg I was half way through and I noticed your dog in the background lol so adorable 🥰
All the brands started out this way. I remember when it was difficult to find the lightfastness of the pro brands. Had to test them ourselves.
Thank you for this video - I hadn't intended to watch the whole thing, but you kept me interested the whole time. :)
You not only can color but you can draw also God has given you a great gift Bless you.
This was interesting to watch, I have not used the Arteza pencils but have been curious with all the negativity towards them lately.
I’m glad you found it interesting. Thanks for the comment Naomi
I love my Artiza CP's. :) I actually like them more than Prismacolour, tbh. I think my top three brands are: Polychromos, Arteza, and a tie between Holbein/CD Luminance...with a VERY close Black Widow's. Prismacolour, Derwent and Cameleon's are my least favourite...although they do have their strengths, and my Derwents (ProColour and Coloursoft) are odd though. Sometimes I use them and think "These are horrible! Why am I even bothering?"...and then I'll try them again a couple months later and think "These are really nice! What was I thinking before?"...then back to "What'tha?! These suck!", "I like these", "These are bad...", "These are good...", etc, etc. Call it a "love/hate" relationship with my Derwent. :)
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(Side Note on Derwent: Inktense. BEST. MEDIUM. EVARRR!!! Easily my top choice for any alcohol-marker medium; paint, charcoal, graphite, coloured pencil, watercolour, etc. Inktense are *AMAZING!* Ok. Enough gushing about inktense).
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Arteza "drama"? Huh. Haven't heard anything. Haven't heard of their new "Pro" CP's either. So I guess I'll just listen now...
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EDIT: Ok. Listening to the "complaint/concerns" about Arteza. First, anyone, and I mean ANYONE who uses "buzz words" when searching for products deserve exactly what they want. Want a good colour pencil? Don't put in "creamy", "buttery", "silky smooth", "expert", "professional", etc. Just don't. Why? People who do marketing are The Devil! Their job is to lie to you convincingly enough to take your money. After that? They don't care. They will sell you a product by lying their teeth off, that product will give you cancer, and their reaction will be "Don't look at me! *I* didn't create the product...you should have read the fine print and the ToS. Not my problem".
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So, yeah. You want to find an ACTUAL pro-level coloured product or marker? Look for the price first; you get what you pay for. Also, one word: "Lightfast". If a company *isn't* giving you a Lightfast rating for their product, be warry and/or just stay away until you do see it. If it's a brand new product/release...give them time. If they never bother...be warry. They are not "pro".
Jennifer I had tested my Arteza set (10 different colors) prior to your video. Of the 10, 3 moved more than others. If I remember correctly Ultramarine was one. I’m pretty sure my set falls in the center column for the date. It doesn’t matter to me because I’m not going to sell my art and I like my pencils. From now on I know not to use these for mixed media. I so appreciate your calm and thorough approach and all the research behind it. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this issue. You are spot on! ❣️
Donna thanks for sharing your test results. I think you are definitely right...different colors are bleeding more then others...this was true for the artist grade pencils too. I’m glad to hear you enjoyed the video and that you still plan to use your pencils. Have fun coloring!
I have used Prismacolor watercolor pencils for 21+ years because I am a watercolor artist. While this is interesting, am not sure why anyone would care. If you want to the Crayola crayons can be used in watercolor for mixed media. It doesn't bleed or run.
Pencils are a dry medium, people should expect even high end dry medium to move in water. I have that first column of arteza and I cant say I have ever tried wet solvents with them, but as I like watercolor pencils better anyway, I have no issues with them.
Lin thanks for sharing your thoughts. I also really enjoy watercolor pencils. So many fun art supplies in this amazing world!!
That's the problem/drama is about. It's the fact that you're nearly paying the price of professional grade.
Exactly. That Arteza push their products as “expert” giving the impression they are quality/artist grade when they are not and in the scheme of things they are not cheap at all.
Arteza Pencils are approx 50c each (120 for $60). Faber Castell are $1.50 and above (depending in the deal you get for the 120 set). Arteza’s are cheap, especially when they do their price drops.
@@ArtJourneyUK the 72 pencils cost 70 usd on Amazon... I do NOT consider that budget at all.
@@ArtJourneyUK - They are the same price as Prismacolour almost and it depends where you live in the world as to price. Whilst Prismacolour’s aren’t the best quality, they are still better quality than Arteza.
The bigger issue for me is Arteza using words like “professional” to describe their products when they are basic student grade.
It is upsetting to watch the marketing tricks. I just want decent products for decent prices. Too much to ask for?! 🤔
I heard there was an uproar in the community and this is the 1st video that I am paying attention so far this is why it matters to me and I really do appreciate and hear what you and Steve are saying BUT: Since March 2020 (COVID 19) I really got into coloring, have and continue to buy products artist and non-artist grade supplies. I have watched dozens of RUclips videos this past year on where to start, what to buy etc...etc.... since it was a new hobby for calm and at the time I was ignorant to my new craft. I had some basic budget friendly that I purchased at the store. One of my favorite ColorTubers talked about Arteza quite a bit and he/she had an affiliate link so thinking that I could support that person for their time-I bought into it plus I loved Arteza's Inkonics line for my ❌ method kind of books. I bought the watercolor pencils 1st because I found a Crayola watercolor set with 8 colors. I tried a couple of the Arteza's and I myself being inexperienced and heavy handed.... I didn't think to blame the quality of the pencil but looking back it probably was the pencil. I even just bought a book a month or so ago before this came out on how to do watercolors and you are supposed to color in the book because I thought I was doing something wrong. I do like the regular colored pencils by Arteza because it reminds me of a cross between a polychromos and a PrismaColor.... there's my thoughts and lesson learned. Back to the video and I hope you don't think I am judging because I'm just telling you my experience.
I think it's a great feature if they are water soluble. It's a matter on knowing what to expect and then use those strengths.
How do you know what year your pencils are or what stock you have? Do you go by if they have the new numbers? Because, I can't find a year anywhere on the product even though I bought them this year.
That is part of the problem. A couple indicators of the set would be the art on the tin, and the number system you have.
@@ColoringBliss I have the "new" numbering system I'm assuming since it doesn't match the tri-tone worksheets from the website and the owl is on the front of the case. I found these to be very scratchy and inconsistent but they keep sending me replacements if I email them with questions...they don't answer the questions - they just keep replacing the pencils. So, I've wound up with 3 tins now of 120
Oh wow! 3 tins!! Yes...new numbers mean you should have the new formula or the right hand column from the test...BUT...who really knows?! Maybe there is another batch that I don’t own?! So confusing!
Thank you for your sweet honesty, I'm new at this and you are so helpful.
You always give very informative and helpful information keep making more awesome art videos 🙂
Thanks Toys! 😊
Your welcome 🙂
Thankyou for the informative and not over dramatic video.
I have just brought a tin of the 72 post 2021 and thought it was just me unable to blend them properly.
However, I brought them as my everyday workhorse pencil to save my various Derwent pencils for specific projects so for me not that much of an issue.
I also purposely brought their "expert" brand than just normal, even though they are probably the same, as I wanted round rather than triangular pencils.
I am in the UK and here ( at the moment at least) they are well under half the price of Prismacolours so no question really.
I'm glad your pup started twitching in the background. For at least a few minutes, I wondered if it was a real dog! I just stumbled upon your review and disclaimers. Interesting review and great presentation! I have a wide collection of colored pencils - ranging from Derwent to Crayola. It's fun working with all of them and seeing how they work together, as well as separately.
I don't care if the product is water soluble or not as long as I know. I try to swatch all of my colors before I use them especially if it is for a project I'm making to sell or gift. It would be easier if companies were just honest, but I guess that's why I watch you. Thanks for all of your great reviews
It doesn't matter to me, I have lots of different sets high and low love them all! Thank you for sharing this 🦋
I'm so glad I saved up and bought the Faber Castell set. Thanks for your honest review.
Jennifer, I can really recommend the big Koh-I-Noor set. Absolutely stunning colour pencils. Really pleasant to work with.
Thank you for all the information. Also, I always wonder about the chemicals used and how toxic the products are.
Eleni unfortunately we don’t know much about the pencils. I think there are some regulations about what they can’t put into the pencils (Holbein had to reformulate their pencils for selling them in the USA because of this) but no one is required to disclose this to us.
As a general rule...I usually treat all art products with a lot of caution.
PrismaColor and Faber- Castell polychromos for life!
I don't like prismas, they need sharpening too often, polychromos and Pablo's for me
The reds are supposed to be the worst. I just color in books. I don’t use water. The arteza pencils for me are quite nice. I think the 120 set is overpriced though and I’m totally happy with my 72 set.
Until you accidentally drop a bit of liquid....you don't expect colors to run....but. OR....add pastel, then spray a fixative....careful!!!!!!
Karen I’m so glad you are happy with your set of 72. Yay! Keep coloring !!!
I like my older set of 72 and excitedly looked forward to the new colors but they are too expensive for me. I wait for the Deals on Amazon to buy my pencils. I was in Marketing, and was good at it, but the key for me was to only market products or services I
believed in. I always read reviews! Thank you Jennifer & Steve for all the effort you put in to your videos.
I’m a hobby colourist with colouring books and I bought the 72 set of artezas in Sept 2020 for £32 on Amazon UK. I’ve found they perform great to be honest, bare movement with water and I think can get a really nice blend. I’m not experienced with any other pencils except Ergosofts and they’re very different feeling. I do put a lot of pressure on them to blend and I find they crumble/get dusty and need sharpening frequently but I do regret not buying the 120 tin at the time. Definitely looking to buy the full set of prismas next though. Thank you for this great and thorough video.
I should also say that I think Arteza have some deeply dodgy marketing going on with their sales/discounts and pricing though which is disappointing but means I watch them like a hawk for when the price is the best and then pounce.
The metallic pan watercolours are beautiful for instance and I like their paper too.
Speaking of “color”... What is the eyeshadow color and brand in the outer corner of your beautiful eyes!
Oh you’re so sweet! I’m trying to remember what I put on my eyes that day...I think it was from an older Makeup Revolution SophX Palette 😊❤️
@@ColoringBliss Thanks!
Thank you for this wonderful review and demo!! Moral of story for me.. just don't get it near water.. LOL. So long as they look good and work, I'm ok with it. 😊
Even so I saw this after a few months - I’m really glad I watched this as I was thinking about gifting these - no longer. YES!!! It makes a difference that Prismas were only a tiny bit more. Their prices really fluctuate on Amazon- so I will wait as currently they are OVER $160
Just found your channel, I really like it.
Thank you for doing this video. My curiosity struck me so I did the water test on my Prisma, amazon basic, some brand from sam's and Royal. My Royals seemed to bleed the least than my Prisma was second. Which brings me to do I really need Gamsol to blend. I am still learning about all this kind of a newbie.
I have the Premium 48 set. It is my first hobbyist grade pencils, so I didn't know what to expect. I had it for a few months now. I'm planning to either shelf it or give it to my little cousin because I'm not loving them. Not getting the feeling that I should continue using them.
what I found most interesting is that your 120 set behaved differently to both of your 72 sets. I have the early edition set (2018) and they run like crazy when I put water on them. i happened to have some Castle Arts swatches nearby when I did the water test and they also ran , but not as bad as the Arteza. Haven't tried any other brands yet. I love the colours that Arteza have and will continue to use them
That’s interesting about the Castle Art pencils. Thanks for checking and sharing.
Thanks for addressing this. It is shocking that the new Artezas are lacking in quality though.
I think the lack of quality is explained quite well by the fact that they don’t own the factory and have no control over the continued quality of manufacturing
Susan I sure hope it all gets sorted out soon - and I’m glad to hear in these comments that a lot of people are getting refunds or store credits to make up for the poor pencils. That’s good news.
I appreciate your reasonable approach rather than an emotional one. Well done and pretty rare in an age on social media outrage. I agree that expectations have to be proportionate to the product manufacturer’s claims. I won’t say anything regarding this specific product because I have had too many negative experiences with products that come from a country of origin that has absolutely no idea of what quality control is, so I never bought the product-any of them and certainly not at their prices. However, right from the beginning, the aggressive marketing campaign that introduced this product to the market and the flooding of reviews on RUclips was suspicious to me. These reviews, the ones that I saw, were mostly positive, but I never saw the Vogger/artist using them again. Art products, especially expensive ones, build their name on word of mouth and time not on pushing them down consumer’s throats. Great vid, I just subscribed.
Hi thanks for all your videos they are so informative and I look forward to seeing them each week.
Regarding Arteza it’s not the products I object to I’ve purchased many of them as they’ve come out with no problems, like you say you expect a certain standard and I’ve always got that. But what I object to is their poor customer relations, if they can’t be polite and don’t respond to the likes of Art Gear Guide what hope would I have if I had any problems or a query with their products. What I need to know is if I have a problem I’m going to at least get a polite response and be listened to when I contact them.
Elaine, good customer service is so important. I seem to hear mostly good reports about Arteza with a few negative comments.
I agree with you about not attacking Arteza. I think Arteza is great for making more affordable products for crafters that don't want to spend tons of money on their supplies. However, I also don't like any companies using false advertising.
When I decided to buy colored pencils, I bought a few of several different companies. The one's I bought as a set are PrismaColor. For me, the price is good vs the quality of pencil. I am no artist, I just color because I like to but I also don't want to "fight" with the depth of color. PrismaColor gave me what I wanted.
I've noticed that they also run when sprayed with a fixative. I still Love my Arteza pencils...now I know to just be careful :)
Leela I’m so glad to hear you still love your pencils! Have fun coloring 😊😊😊
wow. good to know. thanks!
Jennifer, your nails look amazing!!!!
I think they are over priced and that's what hurting the consumer. We know they are low grade but some like the pencils, so I say just lower your price and reword your product to what it really is.
They seem to be overpriced in America, or more correctly, Prismacolor are underpriced! In the UK, 120 set of Arteza is around £60. The 150 set of Prismacolor are £150, so for us Prismas are double the price.
Cynthia I totally agree!
@@ArtJourneyUK I was just going to say, they are still mid/craft range for us outside the US because Prismacolor, in Europe and the UK, is pretty much up there with Faber Castell and Derwent price wise.
My heart goes out to you with your father. Dementia issues are major problem for the nation.
It's like a mixed bag because I just got the 72 bundle from Black Friday sales on Amazon, tested it and nothing happened... Now it's been 9 months so maybe they fixed the problem. Would love to see another test done now and see what happens