I really appreciate how this video wasn't dramatic. I've honestly thought most of the reviews of this "issue" was overtly overblown. I know that this is an issue that some users will worry with, but for myself it doesn't. I don't plan on getting water involved with my coloring. Im really glad I've discovered Coloring Bliss and I appreciate your honest opinions. ❤️
I honestly think this could actually be an advantage for some. How cool would it be to colour flowers and dilute the pencil almost like watercolour and drag it out to other areas.
Allen, exactly! I've seen a couple of videos and it was as if it was their sole purpose in life to damage Arteza. I don't have their colour pencils, by the way, so I can't judge, but I do have their gouache, acrylic and oil paints and they are a joy to work with.
Sorry to be offtopic but does anybody know a tool to log back into an Instagram account? I somehow forgot the account password. I would appreciate any help you can give me.
I started formal art classes back in the eighties, and the quality of mid-range “hobbyist” products are better than anything I could afford back in the day. I went back to art during Lockdown last year and I’m positively wallowing in the affordable art supplies. It’s amazing. I’m gradually putting together a professional grade watercolors (if you want an art scandal and haven’t heard yet, look into the Daniel Smith Primatek pigment issues), but otherwise I’m delighted with the quality of my mid-level supplies. (I just got the last set of Black Widow pencils, and now the dragon set. Hmm. Decisions.) Thanks for all the honesty, I think a lot of colorists need to know the information you share. 👍🏻💕
Tamara that’s a great “order of operations”. There are many art supplies that need to be used in the correct order to avoid issues. Now we know this may be another one of those situations.
I’m a true beginner because I’ve never known how to shade, contour, highlight or blend until I started watching videos in December 2020. For Christmas, I got a 120 set of Castle Arts colored pencils which was quite an upgrade from 36 Crayolas. But because the Castle Arts aren’t open stock and one has to purchase the entire set again to get replacement pencils; I find myself going back to my small set of Crayolas while I’m training my eyes to see light and shadows and and my hand to color very lightly with very pointed pencils to layer my colors. These can be replaced easily on my retirement’s fixed income. If/As I grow as a colorist, I can move back to my Castle Arts and explore more as I start saving for Prisma Colors and PolyChromos. I appreciate learning from you and I have benefited from the swatch charts and other materials I’ve been able to download. You both provide a great service to me, and to many colorists and artists of all abilities. My main focus is to learn new skills and have fun doing so. Thank you again for all both of you do!
Marsha I am excited to hear about your coloring journey. Have fun learning and don’t be too afraid to dive into those Castle Art pencils. I know the fear of avoiding your “precious “ tools but you are worth it. You may find the learning process easier and more enjoyable. Good luck and have fun!
Marsha Braswell Welcome to the world of adult coloring!!! Our fearless leader speaks true (always, actually! Just one of many reasons we ❤️ her!) - you'll do your best learning, and easiest learning, using your best available tools. It sounds like you're doing your homework where it comes to value for money - good for you! A couple of additional options you may already know about - alternate pathways to filling your toy/tool chest: 1. Crayola also makes a set of 50, as well as a set of 100 colored pencils, both fairly budget-friendly in the USA at the moment (
Hey there!. I'm one of those people on a tight budget too. One thing I like is that Prismacolors are sold in sets of like 12 pencils, and sometimes you can find those at Walmart as well as the craft stores for a good price. Michael's also has them open stock, and has their own store-brand version of them. You can just buy a couple here and there and build up what you want. Heck, I've even learned some neat techniques with good old Crayola crayons from watching Jennifer's channel. You can use anything and get a nice result. Welcome to the coloring crew!
I so enjoyed reading your reply. Welcome to the wonderful world of adult coloring. Perhaps when your budget allows, purchase some open stock prisma colors in colors you love, even 3 pencils to try blending with them. Places like Dick Blick sell open stock and it is not so frightening to buy 3 pencils at a time. This month prismas, next month Blicks, the following month another brand and then you can see which you enjoy, before buying a small 12 set of basic colors.
I agree with your assessment on expectations. I love these pencils. I don't expect liquid solubility because I use pencils dry and I think paper between coloring pages works and there is no chemical exposure. If l wanted water color pencils this company does make them. If there's something that you love here then making another purchase makes sense. I have many pencil sets in very different price ranges. I enjoy these pencils because of their beautiful color saturation and blend abilities. Also color quality is comparable to prismas without the fragility that is a problem with them. My favorite pencils are the polychromos. But they have some issues too. Point being if your in a marriage with a great friend you don't show them the door because you don't like all the same movies.
I would say one of the things you are paying that premium price for with the professional companies is consistency and quality control, as you said we need realistic expectations when going for the cheaper option, and deciding whether that is worth it for you personally. That being said - I'm kinda impressed with how well the pre 2019 artezas performed in the bleeding test against Prismacolour and Polychromos!
Lucy you are definitely right about part our money going towards quality control in the more expensive products. I will gladly put some of my dollars towards knowing I will get a great product. But like I said in the video...I’m glad we have the cheaper products so we can try and experiment with a variety of art mediums. Thanks for your comment.
I'm honestly not sure why this blew up all of a sudden. I thought it was common knowledge that Arteza colored pencils - at least specific batches - had the issue of behaving like watercolor. My old 72 set has this issue, my newer 120 one does not. I specifically tested this when I received both sets. I also definitely agree that Arteza (and to an extent Castle Arts now) are too expensive for what they are. I mean $80 for 120 Arteza or $85-$90 for 150 Prismacolor pencils? NO CONTEST!! I remember getting the 72 set for less than $20 and I got the 120 set for $40 (I was not planning to get them at the launch price of $75 or whatever but at $40? No brainer!). Here's my take on what happened. Arteza launched coloring supplies aimed specifically at colorists, you can see it by their range. They literally do every arty/crafty supply you can think of. They launched at a price point that's not too expensive and the pencils were definitely better than what you'd find at Walmart. So they're aiming for adults (not kids) who can afford to spend on coloring supplies but who don't particularly care about lightfast ratings. But then their sales blew up and they realized people are willing to spend quite a bit more, so they hiked up the price to where they're as expensive as Prismacolors! WTH! I see the same thing happening with the Black Widow pencils. I have no doubt they're nice, excellent even. But when a set of pencils costs more than the 150 set of Prismacolors, I hesitate to buy/recommend them. I don't think they would be worth the price and I'm not even a huge fan of Prismas LOL. Let me end this rather looong comment with this: If you can afford multiple sets of pencils or you like collecting art supplies, then yes go for these (I call them) 'colorist' brands. If you want just one set of pencils or don't have space/time/money for multiple sets, just get the 150 Prismas and you're all set.
Agreed! Prismacolors have issues, but end of the day, your money gets quality. Sometimes off-centered or splintered, even a rust spot or two on the tin (all happened with my pack), but it’s quality overall. I trust Prismas. If it goes onto my paper, I know it’s good. Assuming I can sharpen it, lol. Still, mostly good product. And price difference from Luminance, Polychromos, even Derwent Coloursoft make the risk worth it. The price of Arteza doesn’t justify the issues. It’s a crafter’s/hobbiest’s pencil at a Prisma price. And that’s not okay. Double Crayola price would be about right. Crayola is $7 for 50 pencils. $15 for 100.
The price difference depends on part of world you live in, here prismacolor is mor expensive. Castel Arts are much cheaper. And polychromos are cheaper as well. I think Arteza problem is overblown only a problem if you use mixed media with them.
@@Schwefeldrache, yup, same here, I live in Spain. I can get the 120-set of Arteza's for around EUR 60.00, which I think isn't bad at all. The Prismacolors are way, WAY more expensive than that.
Pricing changes a lot over time, that's a huge thing. Right now the 72 set Prismacolor Premier are €72 here, while you can get the Arteza Expert 72 set for €25 (just bought them). That's quite a price difference. Interesting video, but this 'issue' isn't an issue for me personally. I always use my colored pencils last in a mixed-media piece, so no more water applied after I use them.
I will never buy prismacolor pencils again, the core is great but the casings are absolutely awful 😖. Every time I sharpen them the wood splits or the core drops out, the quality has gone down so much I feel they are not worth paying their exorbitant prices.
Thank you for your informative review! I don't own any products by Arteza but I don't think they deserve the "cancel culture" attack. If you buy a budget friendly product, you will not get professional results. I'm just in it for the joy it brings me. Love your channel and your positive spirit ❤️🇨🇦
I agree, I’m here for learning and enjoyment in my retirement years. I’m not expecting to become a professional artist, so the midrange-to-cheap supplies fit my ability level and my fixed income.
I agree. Most people buying these pencils are using them dry in colouring books, not making works of art to hang in the National Gallery. And I know there are some amazingly talented colourists but the majority of those use Polys or Prismas or Caran d’Ache or Derwent due to the way those pencils perform.
I bought my Arteza’s a couple of years ago and I have no problem with them! I wanted something that was a step down from prisma’s and it was but I love them and they are also precious to me as well!!
That was my thoughts exactly with the spray. I think it would make a good video if they re-did this with another set of recent purchased pencils and try a fixative. Apparently though another channel did a video on this 9 months ago and showed that the pencils were actually worse than here. The thing about Chinese manufacturing they aren't afraid to cut corners.
I love my prismas, i have bought these budget brands and they are cheap, you get what you pay for. And you are right, need to have the right expectations.
Prismas are cheap too. Try polychromos for more detailed work (they keep a point well) or Caran D'Ache for quality. They last so much longer they are still good value
It's interesting to see the difference between the pencils from different time periods. I have the 2018 set and never had an issue with them! Granted I also don't normally do mixed media. However this is great information since if I do run my 2018 set into the ground (not likely with all the pencil sets I have), I'm not sure I would buy the post-2019 due to the awful blending. As a side note, I absolutely love my swatch book I ordered!
I use Arteza products for card making. I use their color paint brushes and fine point markers to highlight my drawings. However, I use Prisma colored pencils for sketching and blending. Thank you for your presentation. As always, your tutorials and demonstrations are so full of informative details that I probably would not have considered before watching your videos. I appreciate your honesty and non biased opinion on these products. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience 🙏 😊
I just ordered the Arteza from amazon for $14.44 for 48 pencils. That is 30 cents per pencil. I can afford 14.00. I don't do mixed media. We shall see if they work good enough. Thanks for the review. HUGS
I personally love my new Arteza 72 colored pencil set (new one's with the snail on the tin). They are so smooth and vibrant, I find that they blend beautifully. I do also have Prismacolor Premier colored pencils...which of course are lovely. Water test, I've just done the same test on Prisma and Arteza with various colors and they are about the same. Quality, some of my Prisma are scratchy and some of the Arteza are scratchy. Overall both are smooth. I find that a lot of the time the Arteza pencils do a better job of filling the grain of the paper. As to expert (Arteza) to me they are expert quality pencils vs. Premier (Prismacolor) to me they are premier compared to their scholar sets but not compared to Polychromos Pencils or Caran D'ache (and that goes for both these companies). Their tactics: I'm not seeing their tactics as anything different from Prismacolor. Quality: Arteza is a pretty new company and growing fast, I'm sure they will make more changes as they go along. Prismacolor has done the same thing...I don't remember the channel on here but a lady managed to buy prismacolor sets all the way from their first set to I think it was 2018 or 19 and their formulas change along the way. I've seen long term Prismacolor users call the new Prismacolors rubbish because of the quality issues with build, how easily their leads are crumbling or break, off center cores, splitting pencils...blah blah. I love my Arteza and my Prisma. I'm not seeing or feeling much difference.
There has been this "thing" about counterfeit art supplies, specifically color pencils, circulating on art forums. To give the major brands credit, I know they will change their fonts, font sizes and placements on their pencils. It's all part of freshening their brand. Old sets are still in circulation and makes for confusion when the newer ones are on the market. I personally have old pencils that are over fifty years old. Other than confusion, the quality of these brands, Spectracolor, Prismacolor, Kor-I-Noor and Faber Castell are the same. Quality rules. Counterfeit pencils should be obvious. Packaging is different, quality of the pencils and their core are different. It's true what they say about something being too good to be true, it isn't. Companies change their formulas all the time. It's when they go the cheaper route they hurt themselves. Artists just starting out aren't clear about what's student grade or professional.. But you get educated as you go. The bad thing is when an artist feels ripped-off. Seriously, one bad review equals 10 lost purchases. Bad quality i.e. crumbling leads, split barrels, lousy binders and cheap fillers in a pencil will get people to stop buying them. Bad customer service will get a company a bad reputation and loss of sales they can't recover from. Vote with your dollars. We know what brands are stable and worth the money we spend on them. That's why we have these lovely videos! Checking them out is important. Thanks for the work you do.
Thanks for joining the conversation. We address a lot of these ideas in this video. It is great to see so many people becoming more educated and savvy as they shop for art products.
I do think another reason we have seen this problem is since the pandemic began more people have, due to home quarantine & safety issues (low immune systems etc) began new hobbies. This with having to home school children has made any part of an art product harder to source. Everything from binder to pigment etc & to look further afield for their sources as many ppl have been laid of in non essential services. Having said that I own no Arteza products & LOVE my Derwent & Faber Castel, both polychromos & watercolour. My Albrecht Druher I have owned for 35 yrs. Since the pandemic my art has been paramount & my collection & mediums has expanded hugely. Thank you for being a big part of my entertainment for information on all sorts of art mediums. As I live in Australia & have a poor immune system I have been on lockdown for nigh on a year now & art has been the therapy I needed. Although I had not drawn for 30 yrs after bringing up 5 kids under 10 it took me 3 days for my muscle memory to return much to my astonishment. So never give up or give in and if you like the tools you use & they work for you, GREAT!!! God bless everyone & best wishes from Australia. Kisses to your adorable furbaby too. XXX
I'm so glad you mentioned that arteza is just an art supply distributor and not a manufacturer! It's not very well known but I think it's important, especially considering how expensive arteza is. Also completely agree on the sleazy marketing.
Thank you for a measured and thoughtful review of what is happening. I always appreciate the way your channel handles bringing us information. Thanks 💚
I got my set in summer 2020 they don’t bleed at all it’s all good for me and Arteza customer service are so really great always towards me in the past.
Same for me, my Arteza didn't react to water at all. I bought them in July 2020. I prefer my 72 Prisma's over my 120 Arteza because they are a bit softer and they don't cause my hand to hurt as fast.
I can relate to your father. I got the 150 prismacolor set and my mom was thrilled i was getting back into groove. She has wanted me to get back into it for 35 yrs. Sometimes the art isnt the only thing that comes along for the ride.
Right? It’s so sad how everyone just jumped on bandwagon on hating the Arteza pencils just for this. I mean I understand the professional artists or those who sell their artwork, but then again they would need lightfast pencils not Arteza.
I love my Artiza CP's. :) I actually like them more than Prismacolour, tbh. I think my top three brands are: Polychromos, Arteza, and a tie between Holbein/CD Luminance...with a VERY close Black Widow's. Prismacolour, Derwent and Cameleon's are my least favourite...although they do have their strengths, and my Derwents (ProColour and Coloursoft) are odd though. Sometimes I use them and think "These are horrible! Why am I even bothering?"...and then I'll try them again a couple months later and think "These are really nice! What was I thinking before?"...then back to "What'tha?! These suck!", "I like these", "These are bad...", "These are good...", etc, etc. Call it a "love/hate" relationship with my Derwent. :) .. (Side Note on Derwent: Inktense. BEST. MEDIUM. EVARRR!!! Easily my top choice for any alcohol-marker medium; paint, charcoal, graphite, coloured pencil, watercolour, etc. Inktense are *AMAZING!* Ok. Enough gushing about inktense). .. Arteza "drama"? Huh. Haven't heard anything. Haven't heard of their new "Pro" CP's either. So I guess I'll just listen now... .. EDIT: Ok. Listening to the "complaint/concerns" about Arteza. First, anyone, and I mean ANYONE who uses "buzz words" when searching for products deserve exactly what they want. Want a good colour pencil? Don't put in "creamy", "buttery", "silky smooth", "expert", "professional", etc. Just don't. Why? People who do marketing are The Devil! Their job is to lie to you convincingly enough to take your money. After that? They don't care. They will sell you a product by lying their teeth off, that product will give you cancer, and their reaction will be "Don't look at me! *I* didn't create the product...you should have read the fine print and the ToS. Not my problem". .. So, yeah. You want to find an ACTUAL pro-level coloured product or marker? Look for the price first; you get what you pay for. Also, one word: "Lightfast". If a company *isn't* giving you a Lightfast rating for their product, be warry and/or just stay away until you do see it. If it's a brand new product/release...give them time. If they never bother...be warry. They are not "pro".
It would be a useful test to do some swatches of different pencils (and brands) and see how they react to spray fixatives. Do they run when the fixative is applied ?
I’m a hobby colourist with colouring books and I bought the 72 set of artezas in Sept 2020 for £32 on Amazon UK. I’ve found they perform great to be honest, bare movement with water and I think can get a really nice blend. I’m not experienced with any other pencils except Ergosofts and they’re very different feeling. I do put a lot of pressure on them to blend and I find they crumble/get dusty and need sharpening frequently but I do regret not buying the 120 tin at the time. Definitely looking to buy the full set of prismas next though. Thank you for this great and thorough video. I should also say that I think Arteza have some deeply dodgy marketing going on with their sales/discounts and pricing though which is disappointing but means I watch them like a hawk for when the price is the best and then pounce. The metallic pan watercolours are beautiful for instance and I like their paper too.
I mean, for some it’s a huge con, but it can actually be a pro, if you don’t have watercolours and need that little cute bleed. They can actually go for it as a “specialty pencil”. I really agree that we must see both sides - pros and cons, not just praise or hate something. And also this is why I research a lot before I buy because most often than not I have just one shot at buying the best for the money I have. I didn’t get Arteza because I couldn’t get it open stock and that was the only reason, because to me bleeding is something that I don’t care.
Egija I think your comment about “you get one shot” is very important. Investing in the right tool the first time is very tricky when there is so much to choose from and the marketing is so confusing. Thanks for your comment
The problem I had when they broke up with water is they also tended to spread a bit if sprayed with a fixative, which kind of ruined several pages before I figured out what was happening. Otherwise, I do really like the Arteza pencils. But the new set I ordered in February, I returned. They were terrible to work with. Disappointing
I was worried at first, I thought why is Jennifer jumping on the Arteza “will it run” video bandwagon? But I needn’t have been worried, as usual you gave a fair, balanced and honest review and opinion. *Most* people (not all before commenters come @ me) will use these pencils dry in their colouring books and would have no inkling or care of how they react with water and they’d remain just as happy as they currently are. Wax based coloured pencils have always released some pigment when wetted and always will. It’s a balance between more wax and more pigment. With regards to price, in the US Prismacolors are much more keenly priced than in the UK. 150 Prismas are £150, whereas 120 Arteza are £60. So to us, Prismas are double the price.
You are so kind ArtJourneyUK! Steve and I really debated about this video but in the end, we decided because we had experience with the company and so many sets of pencils, we had a unique perspective and an opportunity to do an Interesting test. I’m glad you found the video to be fair and helpful. Also...I wish I could make pencils and all art supplies more affordable for your region. So sorry.
I agree. I trust Jennifer and Steve. I love my Arteza products. I was upset bec they advertise that their tubed watercolor paints could be panned...didn’t work at all...but they credited me for the paints. Anyway, I was-am- new to adult coloring, so Arteza was affordable. I use them for coloring not mixed media. I appreciate this review.
Thank you for a balanced review of the situation. Thank you for bringing in the higher quality as well. I love your setting expectations talk. I dont own arteza colored pencils but hate to see folks so negative about any company.
It matters if you need to spray a staler over your art. It doesn’t matter if your making beautiful cooking art in your book. They are fine pencils just keep the water away from them.
Thank you for doing this test! When I saw people complaining again about their new Arteza pencils running again, I thought to pull out my Prismas and PolyChromos and see how the water reacts with them as well. It’s only fair to compare against the Professional options. I don’t have the Arteza colored pencils, because I already have plenty of professional pencils but I do have their watercolor pencils and I find them to be better than other options I have, including some of the professional ones. All companies have some good products and some that aren’t so good. Also, thanks for the free gnome, I’m excited to color it this weekend!
Your videos make me feel nostalgic and safe, like I’m back in the library from my elementary school surrounded by the smell of old books and interesting stories to choose from, and I’m listening to the librarian tell my class a story as we sit around with the impatience and excitement of young kids wanting to explore. Does that make sense ?
How do you know what year your pencils are or what stock you have? Do you go by if they have the new numbers? Because, I can't find a year anywhere on the product even though I bought them this year.
@@ColoringBliss I have the "new" numbering system I'm assuming since it doesn't match the tri-tone worksheets from the website and the owl is on the front of the case. I found these to be very scratchy and inconsistent but they keep sending me replacements if I email them with questions...they don't answer the questions - they just keep replacing the pencils. So, I've wound up with 3 tins now of 120
Oh wow! 3 tins!! Yes...new numbers mean you should have the new formula or the right hand column from the test...BUT...who really knows?! Maybe there is another batch that I don’t own?! So confusing!
I heard there was an uproar in the community and this is the 1st video that I am paying attention so far this is why it matters to me and I really do appreciate and hear what you and Steve are saying BUT: Since March 2020 (COVID 19) I really got into coloring, have and continue to buy products artist and non-artist grade supplies. I have watched dozens of RUclips videos this past year on where to start, what to buy etc...etc.... since it was a new hobby for calm and at the time I was ignorant to my new craft. I had some basic budget friendly that I purchased at the store. One of my favorite ColorTubers talked about Arteza quite a bit and he/she had an affiliate link so thinking that I could support that person for their time-I bought into it plus I loved Arteza's Inkonics line for my ❌ method kind of books. I bought the watercolor pencils 1st because I found a Crayola watercolor set with 8 colors. I tried a couple of the Arteza's and I myself being inexperienced and heavy handed.... I didn't think to blame the quality of the pencil but looking back it probably was the pencil. I even just bought a book a month or so ago before this came out on how to do watercolors and you are supposed to color in the book because I thought I was doing something wrong. I do like the regular colored pencils by Arteza because it reminds me of a cross between a polychromos and a PrismaColor.... there's my thoughts and lesson learned. Back to the video and I hope you don't think I am judging because I'm just telling you my experience.
SO glad to have stumbled on to your video!! Thank you for your insightful review!! I was actually watching videos comparing Castle Arts to Arteza. Since both are in a similar price range and all. I have not been very happy with the Arteza. Many of the pencils I have (I got the Expert 120 set) are scratchy and will not blend well. In fact, some of them are so terrible, I have gotten out my Polychromos and Prismas to help blend better. I can say the Artezas simply just do NOT break though. Not in the set I got. I broke one. And that was because I dropped it and then accidentally rolled my chair over it while looking for it. Luckily, just popped off the tip but it was such a weird brake that it broke in the pencil sharpener once. LOL. Anyway, I have been trying to find the right pencils for me. I want a set that is good for just coloring. Maybe use some of the professional ones with it to create different blends/highlights/shadows/colors/etc. But I wanted to leave my professional pencils to be used with my drawings. I don't really care for the Prismas I got. The colors are beautiful AND they are very creamy and blend well. My only issue is that the majority of these have broken at least once. And I have tried different sharpeners.. They still break. A LOT. For a professional set, even thought they cost very little more than Arteza, this is unacceptable. I will not be buying them again. So I have looked at Derwent (to replace Prisma), Castle Art and even Amazon basic to replace Arteza. I can tell you the Amazon basics, for their price point, NOT BAD!! They just need a larger color variety. I can say they feel like a crayola in my hand but put down like I would expect Arteza to go down. These will be my travel set for coloring pages when I am riding down to Florida this year. hahaha. Anyway, thanks again. I probably wrote entirely too much. But I appreciate all of your work!!
Jennifer I had tested my Arteza set (10 different colors) prior to your video. Of the 10, 3 moved more than others. If I remember correctly Ultramarine was one. I’m pretty sure my set falls in the center column for the date. It doesn’t matter to me because I’m not going to sell my art and I like my pencils. From now on I know not to use these for mixed media. I so appreciate your calm and thorough approach and all the research behind it. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this issue. You are spot on! ❣️
Donna thanks for sharing your test results. I think you are definitely right...different colors are bleeding more then others...this was true for the artist grade pencils too. I’m glad to hear you enjoyed the video and that you still plan to use your pencils. Have fun coloring!
I work with dementia affected patients and we too use colouring-in books. It helps in some many ways. Helps in fostering good social relations conversation and achievement plus it's fun. Staff and patients colour in together I have just started using colouring books as I now have sleep problems. When I can't sleep get up and colour. It relaxes my mind better than medication. I would not have believed this before. I'm no artist but enjoy my effects. Find your channel very helpful and inspiring
I appreciate your honest reviews! I had just ordered the 120 colored pencils, and canceled it...then got thier watercolor pencils instead! If I hadn't come across that video today, I would have been getting those first ones on Tuesday! Since I wanted a set I could color with on the couch, and actually have more versatility, I'm really glad I was able to switch! Now, I also bought the Inktense Pencils 72 set- last month and used them in a fabric project and a painting. I love them! Also, I just ordered the Arteza 24 half pan metallic watercolors. I'm going to experiment with mixing them with the different types of media I just mentioned! Thank you Both! Oh, I just sent in a join request for your Facebook group...and forgot to hit the "I agree to the rules"button ! I agree!
I have the Premium 48 set. It is my first hobbyist grade pencils, so I didn't know what to expect. I had it for a few months now. I'm planning to either shelf it or give it to my little cousin because I'm not loving them. Not getting the feeling that I should continue using them.
Doesn't matter if you bought a true artist grade pencil or crafters grade. They all run to some degree. Tip for Arteza. Sign up for their newsletter. The colored pencils go on sale quite a bit. If you have made a previous purchase or Arteza brand anything, you can stack the sale discount with the discount printed on the package of Arteza products.
Wendy thanks for the Arteza purchasing advice. Sounds like they definitely have built in lots of room for deep discounts on their products if you know how to work their system.
I have purchased several items from Arteza. I have the set of 72 watercolor pencils and a 36 pan watercolor set. I am a fine artist looking for a good quality product to use outdoors. I have had the above for a few months and have not used them as of yet. I also purchased a small set of Castle colored pencils regular not watercolor. Though I have to use them for some reason Castle seems to be of better quality. I have purchased the new Cezanne line of regular colored pencils from Jerry's via Walmart. I find them to be wonderful to work with. I also liked Jerry's Soho colored pencils which are now apparently discontinued. The biggest gripe that I have with Artezaz, so far, is their system for rating lightfastness. It is backwards from other companies.1 star is high resistance to fading and 4 stars are the least resistant? That is way too cute. I expect that my Arteza watercolor pencils will be as lightfast as the Derwent Studio watercolor pencils. That means that some will fade upon prolonged exposure to light especially the purples, violets ,pinks & a few others. So I will use the Arteza & Derwent watercolor but I know what I am getting into. My problem with Prismacolors is that they break when sharpening and many colors especially the violets, purples & pinks are prone to fading. In the future I am going to stay with Derwent, Caran D' Ache and Faber Castell. For a mid grade I will go with Faber Castell's Goldfarb , Castle and Cezanne. BTW your review was excellent and very fair. One more point - a number of years ago Talens had their North American distributors stock in the USA the Van Gogh colored and watercolor pencils. They were a delight to use & I wish that they would re introduce them
Pencils are a dry medium, people should expect even high end dry medium to move in water. I have that first column of arteza and I cant say I have ever tried wet solvents with them, but as I like watercolor pencils better anyway, I have no issues with them.
For years I heard about the wonderful Prismacolor Premiers and bought the 150 about 3 years ago and I have to say they are not my favs - way too soft and I rarely use them. I quite like the 120 Artezas I got at Christmas this year.
Would you recommend Artezas for a beginner? I looove coloring in adult coloring books and i want to learn to color like a pro, but i know with the classic faber castell's i cant become what i want, because i can't layer a lot of colors at all with those. I am i doubt if i should buy Arteza's, Goldfaber or polycromos (lol just a small case of 36 colors)
As I was clearing up my pencil stash, getting rid of ones I really don't use, I came across this video and found it rather interesting, especially since at the time...I was going through my Arteza ((since I had purchased smaller then progressively larger sets as my funds permitted) (so I was getting rid of the older doubles)). Since I only use watercolor pencils to provide an underpainting for colored pencils and not usually to use for watercoloring since I have an extensive professional watercolor collection, the fact that the water can move some pigment around on Expert Arteza pencils, and thereby hide microscopic whites of the paper, I'm really considering donating my Arteza watercolor pencils and just keeping the Expert. I do have the Prismacolor and the Faber Castell (both the Polychromos and the Albrecht Durer) but I use the Arteza instead of those for my "draft" and "practice" mock-ups. I keep crayolas on hand for the same reason (and sometimes take both for traveling because if my pencil case gets stolen...(shrug)...no harm done. While my ultimate goal is getting my hands on the full set of the Caran D'Ache Luminous pencils, I have no intention of giving up on all my regular colored pencils, and finding out that water can move pigment on pretty much all colored pencils, even if just a tiny bit, was fantastic to know. I may just dispense with that underpainting to cover the white of the paper completely.
I don't care if the product is water soluble or not as long as I know. I try to swatch all of my colors before I use them especially if it is for a project I'm making to sell or gift. It would be easier if companies were just honest, but I guess that's why I watch you. Thanks for all of your great reviews
When I decided to buy colored pencils, I bought a few of several different companies. The one's I bought as a set are PrismaColor. For me, the price is good vs the quality of pencil. I am no artist, I just color because I like to but I also don't want to "fight" with the depth of color. PrismaColor gave me what I wanted.
I have used Prismacolor watercolor pencils for 21+ years because I am a watercolor artist. While this is interesting, am not sure why anyone would care. If you want to the Crayola crayons can be used in watercolor for mixed media. It doesn't bleed or run.
Thank you for your honesty about products. Now that I’m pretty old I draw just to please myself, but I do expect honesty out of a company so that I know what I’m buying and how it will perform. If I find that a company is actually misrepresenting their product I won’t buy from them again.
I am so happy you made this review. I totally agree with you. I have the 72 set and the 120 set from Arteza. The 72 bleed terribly, but the 120 set is great. Hardly any bleed what so ever. For the record: I am not a wax based pencil lover, so my prismacolor pencils I do not use them much. I find them to creamy and waxy to color with. In the summer they practicaly melt on me. I also do not color much with the Arteza ones for that matter. I love my FC polychromos, Derwent and my Pablos. Recently I bought the Deli's as Color my world was so enthusiastic about them. They are nice and have beautiful colors, but they bleed like crazy too. They need a lot of work to color with, but than you get a beautiful result. I think if you only use them for coloringbooks. That is totally oke. I do not mind to work hard with a pencil to get nice results. But if you have artritis or an other disability, you will have a problem with these cheaper pencils. It is exactly as you say. They are nice for colorists. If you are a mixed media person or a professional, do not buy made in China, India or Indonesia and save up to buy real professional pencils. Thank you for poiting this out to all of us.
Carmen, thanks for your comment and sharing your experience with these brands. It’s helpful to hear how people use and enjoy the different types of pencils
It matters to me because I would like to begin using fixative but I have seen what happens to artwork with these pencils that run. I like very much to be informed. You did a terrific job, thank you for your video!🥰
I like my Arteza pencils. I got them, I believe in 2019. So far I only had an issue with one pencil, Elephant Gray, it actually split right down the middle while I was sharpening it. No matter how gentle I was with the sharpening, it still split. I lost almost the whole pencil. Of course, they don't sell open stock, Arteza couldn't really do much. They apologized, and they gave me a $5.00 coupon to use in my next order. So I was satisfied. I have both the 72 and the 120 set, so luckily Elephant Gray comes in both sets. I'm using the 72 set as replacement for some of the colors that I use in the 120 set. Of course both sets don't have all the same colors, but, it's sort of like having my own personal open stock on the colors that both sets have. So far I haven't had any issues with any other color. These pencils are creamy but not as creamy and soft as Prismas, but they are good. Better than Cra z art! Better than Crayola, but I like Crayolas too! Different pencils for different uses, I guess it's the best way to describe it. I also have the gel pens and Inkonic Fineliners as well. I like them too. All in all, I like Arteza. I'm only picky with my Prismas and Polychromos. If I had issues with them, I would probably pitch a fit, but with the other brands that I have, not so picky. I swatched both the 72 and 120 set and sharpened them all afterwards and all we're good except the Elephant Gray. So, I think they are worth owning. I have several sets of colored pencils. Prismacolor, FC Polychromos, Derwent Intense ( small set) & Coloursoft, Blick Studio Artist, Catan D' Ache Luminance (a very small set), Koh I Noor (small set), and also the Artezas. I use each for different things. I always find myself going back to my beloved Prismacolors. They are my favorite and the ones I reach for the most. So, I agree, if you're going to spend whatever the Artezas are right now and Prismas are the same, I'd say, get the Prismas. But if you're like me a coloring supply junkie who also has Full Set Syndrome, then try them all!
I recently got Arteza pencils and am a bit dissapointed. I find them very difficult to layer, although I don't press hard. Maybe this is because of the wax in them, not sure. If I try to put on few layers of different colours, I finish with the muddy mess. Also I find it difficult to add small details. Not sure about them, I had really high hopes from the reviews, however I am actually much more happy with Brutfuner square pencils which I also purchased recently.
I'm not sure why this is a surprise because to me it makes sense that at least some pigment moves around. When you color on the paper only so much gets pressed into the paper which means a certain amount of pigment will be laying on the surface. If it isn't bound to the paper somehow that means it is free to move around. I really like the set I have, which is one of their older ones, I got it because I don't really like Prismacolors and I am happy with them for basic coloring. I don't really recommend them for two reasons, one they don't do open stock and two, their prices are going up way beyond what they deserve quality wise.
The reds are supposed to be the worst. I just color in books. I don’t use water. The arteza pencils for me are quite nice. I think the 120 set is overpriced though and I’m totally happy with my 72 set.
I like my older set of 72 and excitedly looked forward to the new colors but they are too expensive for me. I wait for the Deals on Amazon to buy my pencils. I was in Marketing, and was good at it, but the key for me was to only market products or services I believed in. I always read reviews! Thank you Jennifer & Steve for all the effort you put in to your videos.
As for your question "Does it really matter if Arteza Colored pencils are water soluble". To me, it does not. They are so cheap. At Arteza's price point, I am not bothered that is reacts this way. If it was my Caran D'ache pencils doing this, then I would have a problem. Thanks for this honest video. I totally agree with your assessment. We need to understand that we get what we pay for. These cheaper pencils are unstable. I sometimes think they are unsafe as well, but I choose to ignore that if I buy cheap pencils. I just know that going in. I agree that Arteza are just OVERPRICED period. ❤️
I'm glad you brought the issue up and give both advantages and disadvantages. I have strong feelings about this kind of thing, and it really does originate from the marketing tactics that we all know are meant to mislead and sometimes deceive us. Arteza charges a pretty penny for their products (tho second-tier, they have raised prices and had continued) -- which puts upward pressure on the price of all pencils, and costs us more in the end. The most important point, to my mind, is that people obtain knowledge about the problem and the issue is out there enough to cause Arteza to correct and -- especially -- making customers whole. All companies will keep money in their own accounts, unless there is a very good reason to return the money. A good reputation is important enough. So, they are doing what they must to rebuild and maintain that again. I don't hear customers swearing off the company forever; moreso, they are reacting and passing on the message so others will be wary, so as to be saavy shoppers. The message is being shared enough times to reach people who need to know because they do business with Arteza. Depending on the community, the message may have to be loud ;-)
Thankyou for the informative and not over dramatic video. I have just brought a tin of the 72 post 2021 and thought it was just me unable to blend them properly. However, I brought them as my everyday workhorse pencil to save my various Derwent pencils for specific projects so for me not that much of an issue. I also purposely brought their "expert" brand than just normal, even though they are probably the same, as I wanted round rather than triangular pencils. I am in the UK and here ( at the moment at least) they are well under half the price of Prismacolours so no question really.
It's like a mixed bag because I just got the 72 bundle from Black Friday sales on Amazon, tested it and nothing happened... Now it's been 9 months so maybe they fixed the problem. Would love to see another test done now and see what happens
Thanks for giving a more balanced assessment of the water solubility of Arteza pencils. I have loved using Arteza colored pencils, but I never considered them to be artist grade. It's clear to me that all budget and mid-range pencils dissolve with water. The Castle Art set I have dissolves much worse than Arteza with water. I'm more concerned about the scratch, not blending well issues you found with the newest Arteza formula. I already have two 120 sets of Artezas and will use those, but probably won't buy new ones not because of the water issue but because of the new formula issues. I also have Prismas but I find them a little too waxy for my preference. Still I use them all the time when I follow color alongs.
P. S. I only paid $65 for my last $120 set in Nov 2020 so still at least $20-25 less than Prismacolor if you wait for a deal. My last 150 Prisma cost $95.
I was not even aware of any drama around Arteza pencils.im not big on drama. Shows how much I pay attention to those kind of comments. I started with Prismacolor pencils around 1986. I was using them for art therapy and I still have them. They are the Scholars and too hard for my taste. So four years ago when I started adult colouring I dug them out. Then I found colouring groups on social media, oh boy was that overwhelming. I purchased the Prismacolor Premier after try another cheap very hard pencil. Being heavy handed I always felt there was I put just too much wax on the page...that was a me issue. Then I started having issues with sharpening...I tried everything. I was so annoyed I put them away bye then I had fallen down the rabbit hole purchasing art supplies and colouring books 🤣. One day I pulled out the Prismas because I see many colourists creating beautiful images with vibrant colours etc. Needed to sharpen one and it started agin. So after some research I purchase the Arteza 120 Expert set, this was October I think.. I unpacked those all excited to use them. They come with a flat tip, first pencil broke while sharpening (I use the M&R 3 hole little manual sharpener. If you twist the sharpener and not the pencil, great results). So after 3 or 4 broke I called Arteza. I live in Canada and had ordered Amazon. I explained how disappointed I was as the whole reason I purchased these pencils was because they are not supposed to break. Next day had a new set at my door. I must have had an off set, mine do not break, they layer beautifully (especially since I have learned to use a light touch). I am very happy with them. They perform how I expected. I use watercolour and Neocolor II’s in addition to these pencils and have had no smear issues. I guess what I am trying to convey is, do your own research, be clear on what you want out of your pencils or markers etc. Your choices may be limited due to budget, you can purchase a smaller set of pencils, do you get 120 colour choices? No, probably not. The whole idea with layering and blending is to create your own custom colours. You can adjust for shadows and light. My question is do you REALLY need 120 colours?
I purchased my set of 120 Arteza color pencils in January 2021 and yes the color moves with water, I don’t care, but I do think they are overpriced for the fact that they are not a true professional pencil, that said, I’m happy with what I got, and their customer service is SPECTACULAR!!!!! Also I should mention I own the 150 prismacolor, and the 120 faber castell polychromos set, the 72? Blick Studio, the 180 Brutfuner, and the 72 castle art pencils. I have used them all and my bottom line is they all produce color, and I love color!
Hello, thanks a lot for these so wise and objective words about this (or these) issue(s). In particular : what could be the real problem with this watersoluble issue ? I love this so accurate question !! In fact, it is the first time I'm hearing to other far annoying issues like : bad blending, scratching, est...Did the older versions have these same issues ? *Considering the price differences* : today on Amazon US : Prismacolor is 87 cents per pencil, and Arteza is 50 cents per pencil. So, this gap has increased since last february. Here in France, prisma is 1,31 $ per pencil (in the 150 tin) !! And Arteza is 0,66 $ per pencil (in the 120 tin). So, Prisma are double priced !
Eleni unfortunately we don’t know much about the pencils. I think there are some regulations about what they can’t put into the pencils (Holbein had to reformulate their pencils for selling them in the USA because of this) but no one is required to disclose this to us. As a general rule...I usually treat all art products with a lot of caution.
what I found most interesting is that your 120 set behaved differently to both of your 72 sets. I have the early edition set (2018) and they run like crazy when I put water on them. i happened to have some Castle Arts swatches nearby when I did the water test and they also ran , but not as bad as the Arteza. Haven't tried any other brands yet. I love the colours that Arteza have and will continue to use them
I agree with you about not attacking Arteza. I think Arteza is great for making more affordable products for crafters that don't want to spend tons of money on their supplies. However, I also don't like any companies using false advertising.
Thank you for all your videos you make. I discovered your channel and have been watching all your videos. I love them and have been learning alot. Today I purchased your Quick Color Picker Book and I'm so excited. I think it will help me alot with learning about colors and picking colors. Thank you.❤
I'm sat here waiting for my new tin of 120 Arteza pencils wondering what I will get! After seeing reviews I thought £52 was a bargain, not so sure now. Hope they are OK. To be fair as a new colourist, working on my anxiety issues, I don't do water colours but I have been thinking about it...
I've had nothing but pleasant experiences with Arteza UK and Arteza's customer service department. The only difference is I bought mine direct from the company, not via Amazon, (here in the UK anyways where the prices were always cheaper than on Amazon UK, especially as they had the Customer Reward System at that time too with regular points off), so I have no clue if that meant they were stored better/came from a different warehouse but I've not had any issues with colour run etc. I believe Arteza has already said they changed the formula from the earliest ones once they became aware of the fact they were disolving with water. So the issue seems to be that the latest versions have gone back to having that issue again. Also here in the UK, Prismacolor are way more expensive than either Arteza or the other similar budget brands, which I suspect is more pandemic related than anything else. I paid £95 for my 150 set back in January 2020 but they're now £135 here atm. I paid £50 odd for my 120 Artezas and they're now retailing at just under £75 so Prismacolor are still hugely more expensive. I do think, however, the way the Agent's/Community Service team has responded to certain members of the art community has been shocking and a good reputation, once lost, is pretty impossible to get back.
Mirrigold you are right about how hard it is to repair bad experiences with companies. I have felt that with my journey with Coloring Bliss. It can be hard as a reviewer to know how to address the global market when reviewing or even just discussing products. Especially considering my limited access to information outside of the USA - plus - prices and products seem to change daily, sometimes hourly!! How am I supposed to keep up?! It is hard. I appreciate your comment and your perspective.
Thank you for your detailed description and assisting those of us who may be new to coloring and supplies to understand the supplies, and how to adjust our expectations.
I'm glad your pup started twitching in the background. For at least a few minutes, I wondered if it was a real dog! I just stumbled upon your review and disclaimers. Interesting review and great presentation! I have a wide collection of colored pencils - ranging from Derwent to Crayola. It's fun working with all of them and seeing how they work together, as well as separately.
New colourist here. I’ve already brought Arteza and felt they were much better than crayola types ( they should be at price. But then I’m seeing so many tubers that I’m learning from use prisms colours so I buy a 36 set for £42.99 absolutely LOVE them compared to Arteza but the 150 prisms are over £130😅 does that sound expensive?
The last couple of years I noticed MANY coloring youtubers doing reviews on Arteza PR products, and I say noticed because I didn´t watch any of those videos, I hate all that PR thing, I've seen more than enough of it in the beauty community. That being said, I recently purchased the arteza expert 48 pencil set and the 72 watercolor pencil set. So far they are ok for my coloring books, but they didn't blew me off my socks though. Sadly the larger sets are pricey and the alcohol markers are crazy expensive.
Good point about price checking. I'm shopping their color pencils and Arteza's website is much cheaper than Amazon's. Makes sense, too, because they have to pay Amazon for access to the larger audience. Just like with the other art companies, it's jacks up the price having Amazon as the marketing middle-man or storefront. Good thing we know where the original products can be purchased without Amazon in the mix.
I love the things that you mention in this video. Like does it matter, what kind of art you are doing, don't judge by just one bad thing etc...I recently bought the 120 before all this drama started. I found out my color pencil bleed, because I do mixed media, especially with watercolor. Arteza replace it, but the 2nd one did the same so they just refund me. It didn't bother me, until I realize that I could just add $20 more and get another set of prismacolor.
Samantha I’m so glad to hear that Arteza took good care of your issues with the pencils. Sounds like you made a good choice for your style of art. Have fun creating!
I can only speak to the products I purchased. My 120 colored pencils in the owl tin do not move with water. They are good to color with but not as good as Prismacolor. They don't blend as well nor layer as well. At $79.00 I believe they are over priced as I just purchased 150 set of Prismacolor Premier for $87.00. At $45 - 49.00 they were a decent value. I also purchased the 120 watercolor pencils at the same time. They are really good and disperse well with water. I purchased from Arteza in late spring 2020.
I'm glad you compared to professional pencils and show that professional pencils also move to a degree with water. The biggest issue for me is something I was aware of, but I'm glad you pointed out - hobbyist pencil brands and "affordable" art suppliers can print things like "professional", "expert", and "highest quality" on the packages when they are not even lightfast. Caveat emptor (= buyer beware) I suppose.
I like what you said about expectations.. I bought a cheap set because all the videos were saying they were amazing..I ended up being kind of disappointed.. but possibly because they're supposed to be a oily pencil and I really got use to wax base pencils so that could be it as well. The thought of 150 prismacolor set is getting more and more intriguing. But I do like the Artezas as well. But most of the RUclipsr doing follow along coloring use prismacolor..so I'm still on the fence a little. I am just starting as well. I want to see if I stay in the hobby.
I'm not a color book hobbyist, if so, it wouldn't matter. Lightfastness matters to me because I'm a portrait artist. I also have to be able to buy open stock because I know that a large piece can nearly use up an entire pencil that needs replaced. Arteza's lightfast ratings are not that good in the sets and you get stuck with lots of them having to buy them in sets. With Prismacolor you can at least buy open stock so I get to choose the most lightfast ones. In sets, especially large ones you get stuck with nearly 40 percent of the pencils being fugitive. Its the same with artist grade watercolor. I paint portraits in watercolor & I buy all my watercolor open stock also or get stuck with fugitive pigments I cannot and will never use. Thanks so much for the honest review! God bless.
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I really appreciate how this video wasn't dramatic. I've honestly thought most of the reviews of this "issue" was overtly overblown. I know that this is an issue that some users will worry with, but for myself it doesn't. I don't plan on getting water involved with my coloring. Im really glad I've discovered Coloring Bliss and I appreciate your honest opinions. ❤️
Allen I’m so glad our video was helpful to you and I’m so glad you find our content here at Coloring Bliss valuable. 😊😊
I honestly think this could actually be an advantage for some. How cool would it be to colour flowers and dilute the pencil almost like watercolour and drag it out to other areas.
Allen, exactly! I've seen a couple of videos and it was as if it was their sole purpose in life to damage Arteza.
I don't have their colour pencils, by the way, so I can't judge, but I do have their gouache, acrylic and oil paints and they are a joy to work with.
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I started formal art classes back in the eighties, and the quality of mid-range “hobbyist” products are better than anything I could afford back in the day. I went back to art during Lockdown last year and I’m positively wallowing in the affordable art supplies. It’s amazing. I’m gradually putting together a professional grade watercolors (if you want an art scandal and haven’t heard yet, look into the Daniel Smith Primatek pigment issues), but otherwise I’m delighted with the quality of my mid-level supplies. (I just got the last set of Black Widow pencils, and now the dragon set. Hmm. Decisions.)
Thanks for all the honesty, I think a lot of colorists need to know the information you share. 👍🏻💕
I have always used both in mixed media. I generally use the colored pencils over watercolor not under so I have never had any issues
Tamara that’s a great “order of operations”. There are many art supplies that need to be used in the correct order to avoid issues. Now we know this may be another one of those situations.
I’m a true beginner because I’ve never known how to shade, contour, highlight or blend until I started watching videos in December 2020. For Christmas, I got a 120 set of Castle Arts colored pencils which was quite an upgrade from 36 Crayolas. But because the Castle Arts aren’t open stock and one has to purchase the entire set again to get replacement pencils; I find myself going back to my small set of Crayolas while I’m training my eyes to see light and shadows and and my hand to color very lightly with very pointed pencils to layer my colors. These can be replaced easily on my retirement’s fixed income. If/As I grow as a colorist, I can move back to my Castle Arts and explore more as I start saving for Prisma Colors and PolyChromos. I appreciate learning from you and I have benefited from the swatch charts and other materials I’ve been able to download. You both provide a great service to me, and to many colorists and artists of all abilities. My main focus is to learn new skills and have fun doing so. Thank you again for all both of you do!
Marsha I am excited to hear about your coloring journey. Have fun learning and don’t be too afraid to dive into those Castle Art pencils. I know the fear of avoiding your “precious “ tools but you are worth it. You may find the learning process easier and more enjoyable.
Good luck and have fun!
You can get castle arts in smaller sets now I also follow Shell Arty on you tube
Marsha Braswell Welcome to the world of adult coloring!!! Our fearless leader speaks true (always, actually! Just one of many reasons we ❤️ her!) - you'll do your best learning, and easiest learning, using your best available tools. It sounds like you're doing your homework where it comes to value for money - good for you! A couple of additional options you may already know about - alternate pathways to filling your toy/tool chest: 1. Crayola also makes a set of 50, as well as a set of 100 colored pencils, both fairly budget-friendly in the USA at the moment (
Hey there!. I'm one of those people on a tight budget too. One thing I like is that Prismacolors are sold in sets of like 12 pencils, and sometimes you can find those at Walmart as well as the craft stores for a good price. Michael's also has them open stock, and has their own store-brand version of them. You can just buy a couple here and there and build up what you want. Heck, I've even learned some neat techniques with good old Crayola crayons from watching Jennifer's channel. You can use anything and get a nice result. Welcome to the coloring crew!
I so enjoyed reading your reply. Welcome to the wonderful world of adult coloring. Perhaps when your budget allows, purchase some open stock prisma colors in colors you love, even 3 pencils to try blending with them. Places like Dick Blick sell open stock and it is not so frightening to buy 3 pencils at a time. This month prismas, next month Blicks, the following month another brand and then you can see which you enjoy, before buying a small 12 set of basic colors.
I agree with your assessment on expectations. I love these pencils. I don't expect liquid solubility because I use pencils dry and I think paper between coloring pages works and there is no chemical exposure. If l wanted water color pencils this company does make them. If there's something that you love here then making another purchase makes sense. I have many pencil sets in very different price ranges. I enjoy these pencils because of their beautiful color saturation and blend abilities. Also color quality is comparable to prismas without the fragility that is a problem with them. My favorite pencils are the polychromos. But they have some issues too. Point being if your in a marriage with a great friend you don't show them the door because you don't like all the same movies.
I am so sorry to hear about your dad's illness. You are both in my prayers. Love to you both.♥️
I would say one of the things you are paying that premium price for with the professional companies is consistency and quality control, as you said we need realistic expectations when going for the cheaper option, and deciding whether that is worth it for you personally. That being said - I'm kinda impressed with how well the pre 2019 artezas performed in the bleeding test against Prismacolour and Polychromos!
Lucy you are definitely right about part our money going towards quality control in the more expensive products. I will gladly put some of my dollars towards knowing I will get a great product. But like I said in the video...I’m glad we have the cheaper products so we can try and experiment with a variety of art mediums.
Thanks for your comment.
I'm honestly not sure why this blew up all of a sudden. I thought it was common knowledge that Arteza colored pencils - at least specific batches - had the issue of behaving like watercolor. My old 72 set has this issue, my newer 120 one does not. I specifically tested this when I received both sets.
I also definitely agree that Arteza (and to an extent Castle Arts now) are too expensive for what they are. I mean $80 for 120 Arteza or $85-$90 for 150 Prismacolor pencils? NO CONTEST!! I remember getting the 72 set for less than $20 and I got the 120 set for $40 (I was not planning to get them at the launch price of $75 or whatever but at $40? No brainer!).
Here's my take on what happened. Arteza launched coloring supplies aimed specifically at colorists, you can see it by their range. They literally do every arty/crafty supply you can think of. They launched at a price point that's not too expensive and the pencils were definitely better than what you'd find at Walmart. So they're aiming for adults (not kids) who can afford to spend on coloring supplies but who don't particularly care about lightfast ratings. But then their sales blew up and they realized people are willing to spend quite a bit more, so they hiked up the price to where they're as expensive as Prismacolors! WTH!
I see the same thing happening with the Black Widow pencils. I have no doubt they're nice, excellent even. But when a set of pencils costs more than the 150 set of Prismacolors, I hesitate to buy/recommend them. I don't think they would be worth the price and I'm not even a huge fan of Prismas LOL.
Let me end this rather looong comment with this: If you can afford multiple sets of pencils or you like collecting art supplies, then yes go for these (I call them) 'colorist' brands. If you want just one set of pencils or don't have space/time/money for multiple sets, just get the 150 Prismas and you're all set.
I agree, 100%!
Agreed! Prismacolors have issues, but end of the day, your money gets quality. Sometimes off-centered or splintered, even a rust spot or two on the tin (all happened with my pack), but it’s quality overall. I trust Prismas. If it goes onto my paper, I know it’s good. Assuming I can sharpen it, lol. Still, mostly good product. And price difference from Luminance, Polychromos, even Derwent Coloursoft make the risk worth it. The price of Arteza doesn’t justify the issues. It’s a crafter’s/hobbiest’s pencil at a Prisma price. And that’s not okay. Double Crayola price would be about right. Crayola is $7 for 50 pencils. $15 for 100.
They don't behave like watercolor. They are gummy and sticky when wet. It is not nice.
The price difference depends on part of world you live in, here prismacolor is mor expensive. Castel Arts are much cheaper. And polychromos are cheaper as well. I think Arteza problem is overblown only a problem if you use mixed media with them.
@@Schwefeldrache, yup, same here, I live in Spain. I can get the 120-set of Arteza's for around EUR 60.00, which I think isn't bad at all. The Prismacolors are way, WAY more expensive than that.
Pricing changes a lot over time, that's a huge thing. Right now the 72 set Prismacolor Premier are €72 here, while you can get the Arteza Expert 72 set for €25 (just bought them). That's quite a price difference. Interesting video, but this 'issue' isn't an issue for me personally. I always use my colored pencils last in a mixed-media piece, so no more water applied after I use them.
I will never buy prismacolor pencils again, the core is great but the casings are absolutely awful 😖. Every time I sharpen them the wood splits or the core drops out, the quality has gone down so much I feel they are not worth paying their exorbitant prices.
Thank you for your informative review! I don't own any products by Arteza but I don't think they deserve the "cancel culture" attack. If you buy a budget friendly product, you will not get professional results. I'm just in it for the joy it brings me. Love your channel and your positive spirit ❤️🇨🇦
I agree, I’m here for learning and enjoyment in my retirement years. I’m not expecting to become a professional artist, so the midrange-to-cheap supplies fit my ability level and my fixed income.
I agree. Most people buying these pencils are using them dry in colouring books, not making works of art to hang in the National Gallery.
And I know there are some amazingly talented colourists but the majority of those use Polys or Prismas or Caran d’Ache or Derwent due to the way those pencils perform.
I agree. We need to be careful how we treat companies and each other. Expect respect and act with respect. Thanks for your comment.
I bought my Arteza’s a couple of years ago and I have no problem with them! I wanted something that was a step down from prisma’s and it was but I love them and they are also precious to me as well!!
W P I’m so glad your enjoying your Arteza pencils. Keep coloring!!! 😊
I'd like to know how the various brands react to a light coat of spray fixative. That could help with the mixed media/wet media issue.
That was my thoughts exactly with the spray. I think it would make a good video if they re-did this with another set of recent purchased pencils and try a fixative. Apparently though another channel did a video on this 9 months ago and showed that the pencils were actually worse than here. The thing about Chinese manufacturing they aren't afraid to cut corners.
I love my prismas, i have bought these budget brands and they are cheap, you get what you pay for. And you are right, need to have the right expectations.
Lucia...Exactly. 😊
But they aren't even that cheap! You can get the full set of Prismas for less than 100 dollars.
Prismas are cheap too. Try polychromos for more detailed work (they keep a point well) or Caran D'Ache for quality. They last so much longer they are still good value
It's interesting to see the difference between the pencils from different time periods. I have the 2018 set and never had an issue with them! Granted I also don't normally do mixed media. However this is great information since if I do run my 2018 set into the ground (not likely with all the pencil sets I have), I'm not sure I would buy the post-2019 due to the awful blending. As a side note, I absolutely love my swatch book I ordered!
I use Arteza products for card making. I use their color paint brushes and fine point markers to highlight my drawings. However, I use Prisma colored pencils for sketching and blending. Thank you for your presentation. As always, your tutorials and demonstrations are so full of informative details that I probably would not have considered before watching your videos. I appreciate your honesty and non biased opinion on these products. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience 🙏 😊
I just ordered the Arteza from amazon for $14.44 for 48 pencils. That is 30 cents per pencil. I can afford 14.00. I don't do mixed media. We shall see if they work good enough. Thanks for the review. HUGS
I personally love my new Arteza 72 colored pencil set (new one's with the snail on the tin). They are so smooth and vibrant, I find that they blend beautifully.
I do also have Prismacolor Premier colored pencils...which of course are lovely.
Water test, I've just done the same test on Prisma and Arteza with various colors and they are about the same. Quality, some of my Prisma are scratchy and some of the Arteza are scratchy. Overall both are smooth. I find that a lot of the time the Arteza pencils do a better job of filling the grain of the paper.
As to expert (Arteza) to me they are expert quality pencils vs. Premier (Prismacolor) to me they are premier compared to their scholar sets but not compared to Polychromos Pencils or Caran D'ache (and that goes for both these companies).
Their tactics: I'm not seeing their tactics as anything different from Prismacolor.
Quality: Arteza is a pretty new company and growing fast, I'm sure they will make more changes as they go along. Prismacolor has done the same thing...I don't remember the channel on here but a lady managed to buy prismacolor sets all the way from their first set to I think it was 2018 or 19 and their formulas change along the way. I've seen long term Prismacolor users call the new Prismacolors rubbish because of the quality issues with build, how easily their leads are crumbling or break, off center cores, splitting pencils...blah blah.
I love my Arteza and my Prisma. I'm not seeing or feeling much difference.
Lmao deffo sponsored by Arteza
How does someone get color pencils from pre 2018? O.o especially so many.
My Arteza's from 2018 ran like a track star.
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I love how you review Jennifer. It's so fun and light, yet informative and looked at from all angles. 🥰
There has been this "thing" about counterfeit art supplies, specifically color pencils, circulating on art forums. To give the major brands credit, I know they will change their fonts, font sizes and placements on their pencils. It's all part of freshening their brand. Old sets are still in circulation and makes for confusion when the newer ones are on the market. I personally have old pencils that are over fifty years old. Other than confusion, the quality of these brands, Spectracolor, Prismacolor, Kor-I-Noor and Faber Castell are the same. Quality rules. Counterfeit pencils should be obvious. Packaging is different, quality of the pencils and their core are different. It's true what they say about something being too good to be true, it isn't.
Companies change their formulas all the time. It's when they go the cheaper route they hurt themselves. Artists just starting out aren't clear about what's student grade or professional.. But you get educated as you go. The bad thing is when an artist feels ripped-off. Seriously, one bad review equals 10 lost purchases. Bad quality i.e. crumbling leads, split barrels, lousy binders and cheap fillers in a pencil will get people to stop buying them. Bad customer service will get a company a bad reputation and loss of sales they can't recover from. Vote with your dollars.
We know what brands are stable and worth the money we spend on them. That's why we have these lovely videos! Checking them out is important. Thanks for the work you do.
Thanks for joining the conversation. We address a lot of these ideas in this video. It is great to see so many people becoming more educated and savvy as they shop for art products.
I do think another reason we have seen this problem is since the pandemic began more people have, due to home quarantine & safety issues (low immune systems etc) began new hobbies. This with having to home school children has made any part of an art product harder to source. Everything from binder to pigment etc & to look further afield for their sources as many ppl have been laid of in non essential services.
Having said that I own no Arteza products & LOVE my Derwent & Faber Castel, both polychromos & watercolour. My Albrecht Druher I have owned for 35 yrs. Since the pandemic my art has been paramount & my collection & mediums has expanded hugely. Thank you for being a big part of my entertainment for information on all sorts of art mediums.
As I live in Australia & have a poor immune system I have been on lockdown for nigh on a year now & art has been the therapy I needed. Although I had not drawn for 30 yrs after bringing up 5 kids under 10 it took me 3 days for my muscle memory to return much to my astonishment. So never give up or give in and if you like the tools you use & they work for you, GREAT!!! God bless everyone & best wishes from Australia. Kisses to your adorable furbaby too. XXX
I'm so glad you mentioned that arteza is just an art supply distributor and not a manufacturer! It's not very well known but I think it's important, especially considering how expensive arteza is.
Also completely agree on the sleazy marketing.
And their prices used to be really competitive, but then they started to become more and more popular, and prices went up.
@@leonnehaaijman4709 Somebody has to pay for all the free products that RUclipsrs are receiving, I guess. :')
@@RamoArt :D :D
Thank you for a measured and thoughtful review of what is happening. I always appreciate the way your channel handles bringing us information. Thanks 💚
MrsC B I’m glad you found the video helpful. We try very hard to make useful content for everyone.
I got my set in summer 2020 they don’t bleed at all it’s all good for me and Arteza customer service are so really great always towards me in the past.
Natalia that’s great to hear! Have fun coloring and thanks for your comment.
Same for me, my Arteza didn't react to water at all. I bought them in July 2020. I prefer my 72 Prisma's over my 120 Arteza because they are a bit softer and they don't cause my hand to hurt as fast.
I can relate to your father. I got the 150 prismacolor set and my mom was thrilled i was getting back into groove. She has wanted me to get back into it for 35 yrs. Sometimes the art isnt the only thing that comes along for the ride.
I love the way you combined the Professional Brands to this too.
Hoping some start to calm down over this...
Christa I’m so glad we did grab those 2 professional brands. If I had the time and energy it would have been fun to test more brands.
Right? It’s so sad how everyone just jumped on bandwagon on hating the Arteza pencils just for this. I mean I understand the professional artists or those who sell their artwork, but then again they would need lightfast pencils not Arteza.
I love my Artiza CP's. :) I actually like them more than Prismacolour, tbh. I think my top three brands are: Polychromos, Arteza, and a tie between Holbein/CD Luminance...with a VERY close Black Widow's. Prismacolour, Derwent and Cameleon's are my least favourite...although they do have their strengths, and my Derwents (ProColour and Coloursoft) are odd though. Sometimes I use them and think "These are horrible! Why am I even bothering?"...and then I'll try them again a couple months later and think "These are really nice! What was I thinking before?"...then back to "What'tha?! These suck!", "I like these", "These are bad...", "These are good...", etc, etc. Call it a "love/hate" relationship with my Derwent. :)
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(Side Note on Derwent: Inktense. BEST. MEDIUM. EVARRR!!! Easily my top choice for any alcohol-marker medium; paint, charcoal, graphite, coloured pencil, watercolour, etc. Inktense are *AMAZING!* Ok. Enough gushing about inktense).
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Arteza "drama"? Huh. Haven't heard anything. Haven't heard of their new "Pro" CP's either. So I guess I'll just listen now...
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EDIT: Ok. Listening to the "complaint/concerns" about Arteza. First, anyone, and I mean ANYONE who uses "buzz words" when searching for products deserve exactly what they want. Want a good colour pencil? Don't put in "creamy", "buttery", "silky smooth", "expert", "professional", etc. Just don't. Why? People who do marketing are The Devil! Their job is to lie to you convincingly enough to take your money. After that? They don't care. They will sell you a product by lying their teeth off, that product will give you cancer, and their reaction will be "Don't look at me! *I* didn't create the product...you should have read the fine print and the ToS. Not my problem".
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So, yeah. You want to find an ACTUAL pro-level coloured product or marker? Look for the price first; you get what you pay for. Also, one word: "Lightfast". If a company *isn't* giving you a Lightfast rating for their product, be warry and/or just stay away until you do see it. If it's a brand new product/release...give them time. If they never bother...be warry. They are not "pro".
It would be a useful test to do some swatches of different pencils (and brands) and see how they react to spray fixatives. Do they run when the fixative is applied ?
Really appreciate yr honest, frank & fair appraisal! Thank u both so much!
I’m a hobby colourist with colouring books and I bought the 72 set of artezas in Sept 2020 for £32 on Amazon UK. I’ve found they perform great to be honest, bare movement with water and I think can get a really nice blend. I’m not experienced with any other pencils except Ergosofts and they’re very different feeling. I do put a lot of pressure on them to blend and I find they crumble/get dusty and need sharpening frequently but I do regret not buying the 120 tin at the time. Definitely looking to buy the full set of prismas next though. Thank you for this great and thorough video.
I should also say that I think Arteza have some deeply dodgy marketing going on with their sales/discounts and pricing though which is disappointing but means I watch them like a hawk for when the price is the best and then pounce.
The metallic pan watercolours are beautiful for instance and I like their paper too.
Prayers for your daddy 🙏💗 Thank you for all your art supply testing and reviews. I really appreciate it. 😁
I mean, for some it’s a huge con, but it can actually be a pro, if you don’t have watercolours and need that little cute bleed. They can actually go for it as a “specialty pencil”.
I really agree that we must see both sides - pros and cons, not just praise or hate something.
And also this is why I research a lot before I buy because most often than not I have just one shot at buying the best for the money I have.
I didn’t get Arteza because I couldn’t get it open stock and that was the only reason, because to me bleeding is something that I don’t care.
Egija I think your comment about “you get one shot” is very important. Investing in the right tool the first time is very tricky when there is so much to choose from and the marketing is so confusing. Thanks for your comment
The problem I had when they broke up with water is they also tended to spread a bit if sprayed with a fixative, which kind of ruined several pages before I figured out what was happening. Otherwise, I do really like the Arteza pencils. But the new set I ordered in February, I returned. They were terrible to work with. Disappointing
I was worried at first, I thought why is Jennifer jumping on the Arteza “will it run” video bandwagon? But I needn’t have been worried, as usual you gave a fair, balanced and honest review and opinion.
*Most* people (not all before commenters come @ me) will use these pencils dry in their colouring books and would have no inkling or care of how they react with water and they’d remain just as happy as they currently are. Wax based coloured pencils have always released some pigment when wetted and always will. It’s a balance between more wax and more pigment.
With regards to price, in the US Prismacolors are much more keenly priced than in the UK. 150 Prismas are £150, whereas 120 Arteza are £60. So to us, Prismas are double the price.
You are so kind ArtJourneyUK! Steve and I really debated about this video but in the end, we decided because we had experience with the company and so many sets of pencils, we had a unique perspective and an opportunity to do an Interesting test. I’m glad you found the video to be fair and helpful.
Also...I wish I could make pencils and all art supplies more affordable for your region. So sorry.
I agree. I trust Jennifer and Steve. I love my Arteza products. I was upset bec they advertise that their tubed watercolor paints could be panned...didn’t work at all...but they credited me for the paints. Anyway, I was-am- new to adult coloring, so Arteza was affordable. I use them for coloring not mixed media. I appreciate this review.
Thank you for a balanced review of the situation. Thank you for bringing in the higher quality as well. I love your setting expectations talk. I dont own arteza colored pencils but hate to see folks so negative about any company.
It matters if you need to spray a staler over your art. It doesn’t matter if your making beautiful cooking art in your book. They are fine pencils just keep the water away from them.
Beth thanks for your comment. Definitely depends on the person and the situation.
Hi Jennifer!! I have a question for you, which do you prefer Artiza or Castle Arts Gold Edition? thank you so much for your recommendation
Thank you for doing this test! When I saw people complaining again about their new Arteza pencils running again, I thought to pull out my Prismas and PolyChromos and see how the water reacts with them as well. It’s only fair to compare against the Professional options. I don’t have the Arteza colored pencils, because I already have plenty of professional pencils but I do have their watercolor pencils and I find them to be better than other options I have, including some of the professional ones. All companies have some good products and some that aren’t so good. Also, thanks for the free gnome, I’m excited to color it this weekend!
Your videos make me feel nostalgic and safe, like I’m back in the library from my elementary school surrounded by the smell of old books and interesting stories to choose from, and I’m listening to the librarian tell my class a story as we sit around with the impatience and excitement of young kids wanting to explore. Does that make sense ?
How do you know what year your pencils are or what stock you have? Do you go by if they have the new numbers? Because, I can't find a year anywhere on the product even though I bought them this year.
That is part of the problem. A couple indicators of the set would be the art on the tin, and the number system you have.
@@ColoringBliss I have the "new" numbering system I'm assuming since it doesn't match the tri-tone worksheets from the website and the owl is on the front of the case. I found these to be very scratchy and inconsistent but they keep sending me replacements if I email them with questions...they don't answer the questions - they just keep replacing the pencils. So, I've wound up with 3 tins now of 120
Oh wow! 3 tins!! Yes...new numbers mean you should have the new formula or the right hand column from the test...BUT...who really knows?! Maybe there is another batch that I don’t own?! So confusing!
I heard there was an uproar in the community and this is the 1st video that I am paying attention so far this is why it matters to me and I really do appreciate and hear what you and Steve are saying BUT: Since March 2020 (COVID 19) I really got into coloring, have and continue to buy products artist and non-artist grade supplies. I have watched dozens of RUclips videos this past year on where to start, what to buy etc...etc.... since it was a new hobby for calm and at the time I was ignorant to my new craft. I had some basic budget friendly that I purchased at the store. One of my favorite ColorTubers talked about Arteza quite a bit and he/she had an affiliate link so thinking that I could support that person for their time-I bought into it plus I loved Arteza's Inkonics line for my ❌ method kind of books. I bought the watercolor pencils 1st because I found a Crayola watercolor set with 8 colors. I tried a couple of the Arteza's and I myself being inexperienced and heavy handed.... I didn't think to blame the quality of the pencil but looking back it probably was the pencil. I even just bought a book a month or so ago before this came out on how to do watercolors and you are supposed to color in the book because I thought I was doing something wrong. I do like the regular colored pencils by Arteza because it reminds me of a cross between a polychromos and a PrismaColor.... there's my thoughts and lesson learned. Back to the video and I hope you don't think I am judging because I'm just telling you my experience.
SO glad to have stumbled on to your video!! Thank you for your insightful review!! I was actually watching videos comparing Castle Arts to Arteza. Since both are in a similar price range and all. I have not been very happy with the Arteza. Many of the pencils I have (I got the Expert 120 set) are scratchy and will not blend well. In fact, some of them are so terrible, I have gotten out my Polychromos and Prismas to help blend better. I can say the Artezas simply just do NOT break though. Not in the set I got. I broke one. And that was because I dropped it and then accidentally rolled my chair over it while looking for it. Luckily, just popped off the tip but it was such a weird brake that it broke in the pencil sharpener once. LOL. Anyway, I have been trying to find the right pencils for me. I want a set that is good for just coloring. Maybe use some of the professional ones with it to create different blends/highlights/shadows/colors/etc. But I wanted to leave my professional pencils to be used with my drawings. I don't really care for the Prismas I got. The colors are beautiful AND they are very creamy and blend well. My only issue is that the majority of these have broken at least once. And I have tried different sharpeners.. They still break. A LOT. For a professional set, even thought they cost very little more than Arteza, this is unacceptable. I will not be buying them again. So I have looked at Derwent (to replace Prisma), Castle Art and even Amazon basic to replace Arteza. I can tell you the Amazon basics, for their price point, NOT BAD!! They just need a larger color variety. I can say they feel like a crayola in my hand but put down like I would expect Arteza to go down. These will be my travel set for coloring pages when I am riding down to Florida this year. hahaha. Anyway, thanks again. I probably wrote entirely too much. But I appreciate all of your work!!
Jennifer I had tested my Arteza set (10 different colors) prior to your video. Of the 10, 3 moved more than others. If I remember correctly Ultramarine was one. I’m pretty sure my set falls in the center column for the date. It doesn’t matter to me because I’m not going to sell my art and I like my pencils. From now on I know not to use these for mixed media. I so appreciate your calm and thorough approach and all the research behind it. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this issue. You are spot on! ❣️
Donna thanks for sharing your test results. I think you are definitely right...different colors are bleeding more then others...this was true for the artist grade pencils too. I’m glad to hear you enjoyed the video and that you still plan to use your pencils. Have fun coloring!
I work with dementia affected patients and we too use colouring-in books. It helps in some many ways. Helps in fostering good social relations conversation and achievement plus it's fun. Staff and patients colour in together I have just started using colouring books as I now have sleep problems. When I can't sleep get up and colour. It relaxes my mind better than medication. I would not have believed this before. I'm no artist but enjoy my effects. Find your channel very helpful and inspiring
I appreciate your honest reviews! I had just ordered the 120 colored pencils, and canceled it...then got thier watercolor pencils instead! If I hadn't come across that video today, I would have been getting those first ones on Tuesday! Since I wanted a set I could color with on the couch, and actually have more versatility, I'm really glad I was able to switch!
Now, I also bought the Inktense Pencils 72 set- last month and used them in a fabric project and a painting. I love them!
Also, I just ordered the Arteza 24 half pan metallic watercolors. I'm going to experiment with mixing them with the different types of media I just mentioned!
Thank you Both!
Oh, I just sent in a join request for your Facebook group...and forgot to hit the "I agree to the rules"button ! I agree!
It's lovely to hear that your dad enjoyed colouring x❤
I have the Premium 48 set. It is my first hobbyist grade pencils, so I didn't know what to expect. I had it for a few months now. I'm planning to either shelf it or give it to my little cousin because I'm not loving them. Not getting the feeling that I should continue using them.
Doesn't matter if you bought a true artist grade pencil or crafters grade. They all run to some degree.
Tip for Arteza. Sign up for their newsletter. The colored pencils go on sale quite a bit. If you have made a previous purchase or Arteza brand anything, you can stack the sale discount with the discount printed on the package of Arteza products.
Wendy thanks for the Arteza purchasing advice. Sounds like they definitely have built in lots of room for deep discounts on their products if you know how to work their system.
Yep. I just did this to get their WC version👍😊 a lot cheaper than anywhere else at the moment.
I have purchased several items from Arteza. I have the set of 72 watercolor pencils and a 36 pan watercolor set. I am a fine artist looking for a good quality product to use outdoors. I have had the above for a few months and have not used them as of yet. I also purchased a small set of Castle colored pencils regular not watercolor. Though I have to use them for some reason Castle seems to be of better quality. I have purchased the new Cezanne line of regular colored pencils from Jerry's via Walmart. I find them to be wonderful to work with. I also liked Jerry's Soho colored pencils which are now apparently discontinued. The biggest gripe that I have with Artezaz, so far, is their system for rating lightfastness. It is backwards from other companies.1 star is high resistance to fading and 4 stars are the least resistant? That is way too cute. I expect that my Arteza watercolor pencils will be as lightfast as the Derwent Studio watercolor pencils. That means that some will fade upon prolonged exposure to light especially the purples, violets ,pinks & a few others. So I will use the Arteza & Derwent watercolor but I know what I am getting into. My problem with Prismacolors is that they break when sharpening and many colors especially the violets, purples & pinks are prone to fading. In the future I am going to stay with Derwent, Caran D' Ache and Faber Castell. For a mid grade I will go with Faber Castell's Goldfarb , Castle and Cezanne. BTW your review was excellent and very fair. One more point - a number of years ago Talens had their North American distributors stock in the USA the Van Gogh colored and watercolor pencils. They were a delight to use & I wish that they would re introduce them
Pencils are a dry medium, people should expect even high end dry medium to move in water. I have that first column of arteza and I cant say I have ever tried wet solvents with them, but as I like watercolor pencils better anyway, I have no issues with them.
Lin thanks for sharing your thoughts. I also really enjoy watercolor pencils. So many fun art supplies in this amazing world!!
For years I heard about the wonderful Prismacolor Premiers and bought the 150 about 3 years ago and I have to say they are not my favs - way too soft and I rarely use them. I quite like the 120 Artezas I got at Christmas this year.
Would you recommend Artezas for a beginner? I looove coloring in adult coloring books and i want to learn to color like a pro, but i know with the classic faber castell's i cant become what i want, because i can't layer a lot of colors at all with those. I am i doubt if i should buy Arteza's, Goldfaber or polycromos (lol just a small case of 36 colors)
@@MissMoi1985 yes, I like them very much. They have a good range of colours, soft, but not too soft, hold a point quite well.
@@marleycritcher8068 i ordered the 72 set, should be here on saturday, can't wait 😍😍
As I was clearing up my pencil stash, getting rid of ones I really don't use, I came across this video and found it rather interesting, especially since at the time...I was going through my Arteza ((since I had purchased smaller then progressively larger sets as my funds permitted) (so I was getting rid of the older doubles)). Since I only use watercolor pencils to provide an underpainting for colored pencils and not usually to use for watercoloring since I have an extensive professional watercolor collection, the fact that the water can move some pigment around on Expert Arteza pencils, and thereby hide microscopic whites of the paper, I'm really considering donating my Arteza watercolor pencils and just keeping the Expert. I do have the Prismacolor and the Faber Castell (both the Polychromos and the Albrecht Durer) but I use the Arteza instead of those for my "draft" and "practice" mock-ups. I keep crayolas on hand for the same reason (and sometimes take both for traveling because if my pencil case gets stolen...(shrug)...no harm done. While my ultimate goal is getting my hands on the full set of the Caran D'Ache Luminous pencils, I have no intention of giving up on all my regular colored pencils, and finding out that water can move pigment on pretty much all colored pencils, even if just a tiny bit, was fantastic to know. I may just dispense with that underpainting to cover the white of the paper completely.
I've noticed that they also run when sprayed with a fixative. I still Love my Arteza pencils...now I know to just be careful :)
Leela I’m so glad to hear you still love your pencils! Have fun coloring 😊😊😊
wow. good to know. thanks!
I don't care if the product is water soluble or not as long as I know. I try to swatch all of my colors before I use them especially if it is for a project I'm making to sell or gift. It would be easier if companies were just honest, but I guess that's why I watch you. Thanks for all of your great reviews
I have the Arteza with the black pencil case, so what year do I have.
When I decided to buy colored pencils, I bought a few of several different companies. The one's I bought as a set are PrismaColor. For me, the price is good vs the quality of pencil. I am no artist, I just color because I like to but I also don't want to "fight" with the depth of color. PrismaColor gave me what I wanted.
I have used Prismacolor watercolor pencils for 21+ years because I am a watercolor artist. While this is interesting, am not sure why anyone would care. If you want to the Crayola crayons can be used in watercolor for mixed media. It doesn't bleed or run.
I was wondering where you got the round pen holders that are next to your cute dog? Your video is, of course, even better with the dog!
Thank you for your honesty about products. Now that I’m pretty old I draw just to please myself, but I do expect honesty out of a company so that I know what I’m buying and how it will perform. If I find that a company is actually misrepresenting their product I won’t buy from them again.
It matters very much to be fully informed so thanks for this FULL informational video. Very much appreciated and we need more like you in YT land.
I think it's a great feature if they are water soluble. It's a matter on knowing what to expect and then use those strengths.
Higher demand with 2020?
I am so happy you made this review. I totally agree with you.
I have the 72 set and the 120 set from Arteza. The 72 bleed terribly, but the 120 set is great. Hardly any bleed what so ever. For the record: I am not a wax based pencil lover, so my prismacolor pencils I do not use them much. I find them to creamy and waxy to color with. In the summer they practicaly melt on me.
I also do not color much with the Arteza ones for that matter. I love my FC polychromos, Derwent and my Pablos.
Recently I bought the Deli's as Color my world was so enthusiastic about them. They are nice and have beautiful colors, but they bleed like crazy too. They need a lot of work to color with, but than you get a beautiful result. I think if you only use them for coloringbooks. That is totally oke. I do not mind to work hard with a pencil to get nice results. But if you have artritis or an other disability, you will have a problem with these cheaper pencils.
It is exactly as you say. They are nice for colorists. If you are a mixed media person or a professional, do not buy made in China, India or Indonesia and save up to buy real professional pencils.
Thank you for poiting this out to all of us.
Carmen, thanks for your comment and sharing your experience with these brands. It’s helpful to hear how people use and enjoy the different types of pencils
Great video! I’ve been using Prismacolor pencils since art school 30 years ago. Thank you for all you do❤️❤️❤️❤️
Michelle I’m glad you liked the video. That’s awesome that you have such a long history with Prismacolor!
It matters to me because I would like to begin using fixative but I have seen what happens to artwork with these pencils that run. I like very much to be informed. You did a terrific job, thank you for your video!🥰
Lori thanks for your kind comment. 😊
I like my Arteza pencils. I got them, I believe in 2019. So far I only had an issue with one pencil, Elephant Gray, it actually split right down the middle while I was sharpening it. No matter how gentle I was with the sharpening, it still split. I lost almost the whole pencil. Of course, they don't sell open stock, Arteza couldn't really do much. They apologized, and they gave me a $5.00 coupon to use in my next order. So I was satisfied. I have both the 72 and the 120 set, so luckily Elephant Gray comes in both sets. I'm using the 72 set as replacement for some of the colors that I use in the 120 set. Of course both sets don't have all the same colors, but, it's sort of like having my own personal open stock on the colors that both sets have. So far I haven't had any issues with any other color. These pencils are creamy but not as creamy and soft as Prismas, but they are good. Better than Cra z art! Better than Crayola, but I like Crayolas too! Different pencils for different uses, I guess it's the best way to describe it. I also have the gel pens and Inkonic Fineliners as well. I like them too. All in all, I like Arteza. I'm only picky with my Prismas and Polychromos. If I had issues with them, I would probably pitch a fit, but with the other brands that I have, not so picky. I swatched both the 72 and 120 set and sharpened them all afterwards and all we're good except the Elephant Gray. So, I think they are worth owning. I have several sets of colored pencils. Prismacolor, FC Polychromos, Derwent Intense ( small set) & Coloursoft, Blick Studio Artist, Catan D' Ache Luminance (a very small set), Koh I Noor (small set), and also the Artezas. I use each for different things. I always find myself going back to my beloved Prismacolors. They are my favorite and the ones I reach for the most. So, I agree, if you're going to spend whatever the Artezas are right now and Prismas are the same, I'd say, get the Prismas. But if you're like me a coloring supply junkie who also has Full Set Syndrome, then try them all!
Dana thanks for sharing your experience with Arteza and other pencils. It’s great to hear.
I recently got Arteza pencils and am a bit dissapointed. I find them very difficult to layer, although I don't press hard. Maybe this is because of the wax in them, not sure.
If I try to put on few layers of different colours, I finish with the muddy mess. Also I find it difficult to add small details. Not sure about them, I had really high hopes from the reviews, however I am actually much more happy with Brutfuner square pencils which I also purchased recently.
I'm not sure why this is a surprise because to me it makes sense that at least some pigment moves around. When you color on the paper only so much gets pressed into the paper which means a certain amount of pigment will be laying on the surface. If it isn't bound to the paper somehow that means it is free to move around. I really like the set I have, which is one of their older ones, I got it because I don't really like Prismacolors and I am happy with them for basic coloring. I don't really recommend them for two reasons, one they don't do open stock and two, their prices are going up way beyond what they deserve quality wise.
The reds are supposed to be the worst. I just color in books. I don’t use water. The arteza pencils for me are quite nice. I think the 120 set is overpriced though and I’m totally happy with my 72 set.
Until you accidentally drop a bit of liquid....you don't expect colors to run....but. OR....add pastel, then spray a fixative....careful!!!!!!
Karen I’m so glad you are happy with your set of 72. Yay! Keep coloring !!!
I like my older set of 72 and excitedly looked forward to the new colors but they are too expensive for me. I wait for the Deals on Amazon to buy my pencils. I was in Marketing, and was good at it, but the key for me was to only market products or services I
believed in. I always read reviews! Thank you Jennifer & Steve for all the effort you put in to your videos.
Why order through amazon if you can buy from arteza direct?
As for your question "Does it really matter if Arteza Colored pencils are water soluble". To me, it does not. They are so cheap. At Arteza's price point, I am not bothered that is reacts this way. If it was my Caran D'ache pencils doing this, then I would have a problem. Thanks for this honest video. I totally agree with your assessment. We need to understand that we get what we pay for. These cheaper pencils are unstable. I sometimes think they are unsafe as well, but I choose to ignore that if I buy cheap pencils. I just know that going in. I agree that Arteza are just OVERPRICED period. ❤️
I'm glad you brought the issue up and give both advantages and disadvantages. I have strong feelings about this kind of thing, and it really does originate from the marketing tactics that we all know are meant to mislead and sometimes deceive us. Arteza charges a pretty penny for their products (tho second-tier, they have raised prices and had continued) -- which puts upward pressure on the price of all pencils, and costs us more in the end. The most important point, to my mind, is that people obtain knowledge about the problem and the issue is out there enough to cause Arteza to correct and -- especially -- making customers whole. All companies will keep money in their own accounts, unless there is a very good reason to return the money. A good reputation is important enough. So, they are doing what they must to rebuild and maintain that again. I don't hear customers swearing off the company forever; moreso, they are reacting and passing on the message so others will be wary, so as to be saavy shoppers. The message is being shared enough times to reach people who need to know because they do business with Arteza. Depending on the community, the message may have to be loud ;-)
Thankyou for the informative and not over dramatic video.
I have just brought a tin of the 72 post 2021 and thought it was just me unable to blend them properly.
However, I brought them as my everyday workhorse pencil to save my various Derwent pencils for specific projects so for me not that much of an issue.
I also purposely brought their "expert" brand than just normal, even though they are probably the same, as I wanted round rather than triangular pencils.
I am in the UK and here ( at the moment at least) they are well under half the price of Prismacolours so no question really.
Thank you for the comparison information. I always enjoy your videos. You are always so level headed and knowledgeable.
I’m glad you enjoyed it Laverne
It's like a mixed bag because I just got the 72 bundle from Black Friday sales on Amazon, tested it and nothing happened... Now it's been 9 months so maybe they fixed the problem. Would love to see another test done now and see what happens
Thanks for giving a more balanced assessment of the water solubility of Arteza pencils. I have loved using Arteza colored pencils, but I never considered them to be artist grade. It's clear to me that all budget and mid-range pencils dissolve with water. The Castle Art set I have dissolves much worse than Arteza with water. I'm more concerned about the scratch, not blending well issues you found with the newest Arteza formula. I already have two 120 sets of Artezas and will use those, but probably won't buy new ones not because of the water issue but because of the new formula issues. I also have Prismas but I find them a little too waxy for my preference. Still I use them all the time when I follow color alongs.
P. S. I only paid $65 for my last $120 set in Nov 2020 so still at least $20-25 less than Prismacolor if you wait for a deal. My last 150 Prisma cost $95.
I was not even aware of any drama around Arteza pencils.im not big on drama. Shows how much I pay attention to those kind of comments. I started with Prismacolor pencils around 1986. I was using them for art therapy and I still have them. They are the Scholars and too hard for my taste. So four years ago when I started adult colouring I dug them out. Then I found colouring groups on social media, oh boy was that overwhelming. I purchased the Prismacolor Premier after try another cheap very hard pencil. Being heavy handed I always felt there was I put just too much wax on the page...that was a me issue. Then I started having issues with sharpening...I tried everything. I was so annoyed I put them away bye then I had fallen down the rabbit hole purchasing art supplies and colouring books 🤣. One day I pulled out the Prismas because I see many colourists creating beautiful images with vibrant colours etc. Needed to sharpen one and it started agin. So after some research I purchase the Arteza 120 Expert set, this was October I think.. I unpacked those all excited to use them. They come with a flat tip, first pencil broke while sharpening (I use the M&R 3 hole little manual sharpener. If you twist the sharpener and not the pencil, great results). So after 3 or 4 broke I called Arteza. I live in Canada and had ordered Amazon. I explained how disappointed I was as the whole reason I purchased these pencils was because they are not supposed to break. Next day had a new set at my door. I must have had an off set, mine do not break, they layer beautifully (especially since I have learned to use a light touch). I am very happy with them. They perform how I expected. I use watercolour and Neocolor II’s in addition to these pencils and have had no smear issues. I guess what I am trying to convey is, do your own research, be clear on what you want out of your pencils or markers etc. Your choices may be limited due to budget, you can purchase a smaller set of pencils, do you get 120 colour choices? No, probably not. The whole idea with layering and blending is to create your own custom colours. You can adjust for shadows and light. My question is do you REALLY need 120 colours?
I purchased my set of 120 Arteza color pencils in January 2021 and yes the color moves with water, I don’t care, but I do think they are overpriced for the fact that they are not a true professional pencil, that said, I’m happy with what I got, and their customer service is SPECTACULAR!!!!! Also I should mention I own the 150 prismacolor, and the 120 faber castell polychromos set, the 72? Blick Studio, the 180 Brutfuner, and the 72 castle art pencils. I have used them all and my bottom line is they all produce color, and I love color!
Dawn! Awesome attitude! Sounds like a fun pencil collection!
Hello, thanks a lot for these so wise and objective words about this (or these) issue(s).
In particular : what could be the real problem with this watersoluble issue ? I love this so accurate question !!
In fact, it is the first time I'm hearing to other far annoying issues like : bad blending, scratching, est...Did the older versions have these same issues ?
*Considering the price differences* : today on Amazon US : Prismacolor is 87 cents per pencil, and Arteza is 50 cents per pencil. So, this gap has increased since last february.
Here in France, prisma is 1,31 $ per pencil (in the 150 tin) !! And Arteza is 0,66 $ per pencil (in the 120 tin). So, Prisma are double priced !
Thank you for all the information. Also, I always wonder about the chemicals used and how toxic the products are.
Eleni unfortunately we don’t know much about the pencils. I think there are some regulations about what they can’t put into the pencils (Holbein had to reformulate their pencils for selling them in the USA because of this) but no one is required to disclose this to us.
As a general rule...I usually treat all art products with a lot of caution.
what I found most interesting is that your 120 set behaved differently to both of your 72 sets. I have the early edition set (2018) and they run like crazy when I put water on them. i happened to have some Castle Arts swatches nearby when I did the water test and they also ran , but not as bad as the Arteza. Haven't tried any other brands yet. I love the colours that Arteza have and will continue to use them
That’s interesting about the Castle Art pencils. Thanks for checking and sharing.
I'm a little confused with the pre-2019 because wouldn't that just be 2018?
I agree with you about not attacking Arteza. I think Arteza is great for making more affordable products for crafters that don't want to spend tons of money on their supplies. However, I also don't like any companies using false advertising.
Thank you for all your videos you make. I discovered your channel and have been watching all your videos. I love them and have been learning alot. Today I purchased your Quick Color Picker Book and I'm so excited. I think it will help me alot with learning about colors and picking colors. Thank you.❤
You not only can color but you can draw also God has given you a great gift Bless you.
Looks like the binder is different from 2020 to 2021. The 2020’s seem more pigmented. Ish I had those but the 2021’s I’ve got layer well too.
I'm sat here waiting for my new tin of 120 Arteza pencils wondering what I will get! After seeing reviews I thought £52 was a bargain, not so sure now. Hope they are OK. To be fair as a new colourist, working on my anxiety issues, I don't do water colours but I have been thinking about it...
I've had nothing but pleasant experiences with Arteza UK and Arteza's customer service department.
The only difference is I bought mine direct from the company, not via Amazon, (here in the UK anyways where the prices were always cheaper than on Amazon UK, especially as they had the Customer Reward System at that time too with regular points off), so I have no clue if that meant they were stored better/came from a different warehouse but I've not had any issues with colour run etc.
I believe Arteza has already said they changed the formula from the earliest ones once they became aware of the fact they were disolving with water. So the issue seems to be that the latest versions have gone back to having that issue again.
Also here in the UK, Prismacolor are way more expensive than either Arteza or the other similar budget brands, which I suspect is more pandemic related than anything else. I paid £95 for my 150 set back in January 2020 but they're now £135 here atm. I paid £50 odd for my 120 Artezas and they're now retailing at just under £75 so Prismacolor are still hugely more expensive.
I do think, however, the way the Agent's/Community Service team has responded to certain members of the art community has been shocking and a good reputation, once lost, is pretty impossible to get back.
Mirrigold you are right about how hard it is to repair bad experiences with companies. I have felt that with my journey with Coloring Bliss. It can be hard as a reviewer to know how to address the global market when reviewing or even just discussing products. Especially considering my limited access to information outside of the USA - plus - prices and products seem to change daily, sometimes hourly!! How am I supposed to keep up?! It is hard. I appreciate your comment and your perspective.
Thank you for your detailed description and assisting those of us who may be new to coloring and supplies to understand the supplies, and how to adjust our expectations.
Jennifer I hope I was helpful. Thanks for watching and good luck with your art journey
I'm glad your pup started twitching in the background. For at least a few minutes, I wondered if it was a real dog! I just stumbled upon your review and disclaimers. Interesting review and great presentation! I have a wide collection of colored pencils - ranging from Derwent to Crayola. It's fun working with all of them and seeing how they work together, as well as separately.
New colourist here. I’ve already brought Arteza and felt they were much better than crayola types ( they should be at price. But then I’m seeing so many tubers that I’m learning from use prisms colours so I buy a 36 set for £42.99 absolutely LOVE them compared to Arteza but the 150 prisms are over £130😅 does that sound expensive?
The last couple of years I noticed MANY coloring youtubers doing reviews on Arteza PR products, and I say noticed because I didn´t watch any of those videos, I hate all that PR thing, I've seen more than enough of it in the beauty community.
That being said, I recently purchased the arteza expert 48 pencil set and the 72 watercolor pencil set. So far they are ok for my coloring books, but they didn't blew me off my socks though. Sadly the larger sets are pricey and the alcohol markers are crazy expensive.
Good point about price checking. I'm shopping their color pencils and Arteza's website is much cheaper than Amazon's. Makes sense, too, because they have to pay Amazon for access to the larger audience. Just like with the other art companies, it's jacks up the price having Amazon as the marketing middle-man or storefront. Good thing we know where the original products can be purchased without Amazon in the mix.
Speaking of “color”... What is the eyeshadow color and brand in the outer corner of your beautiful eyes!
Oh you’re so sweet! I’m trying to remember what I put on my eyes that day...I think it was from an older Makeup Revolution SophX Palette 😊❤️
@@ColoringBliss Thanks!
Yes! Just finishing up my tostada and street tacos from our local Mexican food place and with 15 minutes to spare can’t wait to see you all tonight
Sounds delicious!! I’m finishing up my Jimmy John’s sandwich and salt & vinegar chips. ❤️❤️
@@ColoringBliss that sounds good too! I’m on a low bread kick right now due to fighting my blood sugar levels while being on steroids 😓
I like my Arteza pencils 😊
I love the things that you mention in this video. Like does it matter, what kind of art you are doing, don't judge by just one bad thing etc...I recently bought the 120 before all this drama started. I found out my color pencil bleed, because I do mixed media, especially with watercolor. Arteza replace it, but the 2nd one did the same so they just refund me. It didn't bother me, until I realize that I could just add $20 more and get another set of prismacolor.
Samantha I’m so glad to hear that Arteza took good care of your issues with the pencils. Sounds like you made a good choice for your style of art. Have fun creating!
I can only speak to the products I purchased. My 120 colored pencils in the owl tin do not move with water. They are good to color with but not as good as Prismacolor. They don't blend as well nor layer as well. At $79.00 I believe they are over priced as I just purchased 150 set of Prismacolor Premier for $87.00. At $45 - 49.00 they were a decent value.
I also purchased the 120 watercolor pencils at the same time. They are really good and disperse well with water.
I purchased from Arteza in late spring 2020.
Georgia thanks for sharing your experience with these pencils. It’s helpful to hear what you have seen.
I'm glad you compared to professional pencils and show that professional pencils also move to a degree with water. The biggest issue for me is something I was aware of, but I'm glad you pointed out - hobbyist pencil brands and "affordable" art suppliers can print things like "professional", "expert", and "highest quality" on the packages when they are not even lightfast. Caveat emptor (= buyer beware) I suppose.
I’m glad you liked the points I made. I hope it helps everyone be a little more savvy as they do their art shopping. Thanks for the comment.
I like what you said about expectations.. I bought a cheap set because all the videos were saying they were amazing..I ended up being kind of disappointed.. but possibly because they're supposed to be a oily pencil and I really got use to wax base pencils so that could be it as well. The thought of 150 prismacolor set is getting more and more intriguing. But I do like the Artezas as well. But most of the RUclipsr doing follow along coloring use prismacolor..so I'm still on the fence a little. I am just starting as well. I want to see if I stay in the hobby.
I'm not a color book hobbyist, if so, it wouldn't matter. Lightfastness matters to me because I'm a portrait artist. I also have to be able to buy open stock because I know that a large piece can nearly use up an entire pencil that needs replaced. Arteza's lightfast ratings are not that good in the sets and you get stuck with lots of them having to buy them in sets. With Prismacolor you can at least buy open stock so I get to choose the most lightfast ones. In sets, especially large ones you get stuck with nearly 40 percent of the pencils being fugitive. Its the same with artist grade watercolor. I paint portraits in watercolor & I buy all my watercolor open stock also or get stuck with fugitive pigments I cannot and will never use. Thanks so much for the honest review! God bless.