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I'm sick of hearing people complain about under steer! Learn to fucking drive then!!! Not "oh well I nearly span out so iIll correct it with some over steer" pick your corner and driving to it you screw up that's your problem!
I think you've got your terms mixed up. There's no nearly spinning an understeering car. You meant oversteer. As for the meat of your post though, I pretty much agree with you. However, some cars are far too sensitive and oversteer prone. You always have to work hard to keep things from going wrong. The best kind of oversteer is the progressive kind you get from a well balanced setup. That type of controllable rear end makes you feel like the car working with you, rather than against you.
I don't think you understand what understeer is. The reviewer is complaining about the cars inability to drift sideways. Instead of the back tires losing traction and sliding wide, the front tires are. This is safer, but also much less fun and interesting to a good driver. Some cars are set up to always understeer, even with a great driver.
We'll if you're plucking down 300k for a car, you expect a little more competitiveness to it especially when the target market is also looking at 458s and 650s-s. Under-steer generally make you go wide, over steer goes in more than neutral and the back wheel will be coming out causing a spin out unless you counter-steer and power slide out. 300k and you can't power slide kinda sucks.
MrPanda415 But that's the problem Steve is not buying this car, journalists don't buy these cars! And power sliding means nothing to the people who do buy them. they want that safety net. But yet when a car is setup for cornering like this car, they complain about under steer. Cars that under steer take more skill because you have to use a racing line and learn where it's limits and abilities are. In a car that over steers, it's more fun for the journalists, but that's wrong, to just have that attitude. Each car is different and is not set up for journalists to cock about it!
***** Couldnt agree more. Dont get me wrong, those guys are hilarious, but Clarkson, May and Hammond are the last people I will listen to for car advice.
yup - that's the conundrum... in order to make better cars - they couldn't make Lamborghini's anymore. By the ever increasing sales they have - it looks as if they and their Audi parents make the right choice.
You buy this car for it's sexy looks and the sound of that V10 engine. Understeer is the last thing I would worry if I could get my hands on this amazing beast.
These supercar reviewers need to accept that some of the car companies choose to make "street focused" cars as opposed to "track focused" cars. When Steve says that what he's struggling with, "has nothing to do with the way this cars feels or drives on the road"; the conversation can end there. If I want a track car I'll buy a 911 GT3.
have to disagree with the man in the video saying its the best looking lambo in the last 20 years. then he mentioned the muira and countach. countach? that was the worst looking car lambo have ever built imo.
Oh my god they made it an Italian Audi... But then it just means it's more of a daily driver, besides I love the more elegant design of the Huracan over the more flamboyant design of the Aventador/Reventon and the Veneno. Though the next R8 would probably be the better handling car again... just like it did to the Gallardo
if you want a daily driver, then lamborghini should be the wrong adress. there are porsche 911's or bentley continental in VW groupe for this type of cars. lamborghini are extreme in every way, loud, hard to drive, uncomfortable, brutal and fucking fast. That are the points that define the brand. so this here is just crab...
Michel Messina Well, I mean if you love to show off, this is like the best daily driver, if slightly uncomfortable. But it has DSG, 4WD and safe handling. Lambo were loud and hard to drive. But you're right, this Huracan is crap
MTC0316 yeah you name it "if you love to show off", that's the point!!! at the moment lamborghini only produces cars for new rich people who wanna show that they have a lot of money. but this to me has nothing to do with a good car or perfect engineering..
Freddy T they are taking a new road and putting on their serious faces now. clubbing is out and "better" engineering is in. they still look bonkers beside other supercars just not as bonkers as usual.
Lamborghini has used AWD in its cars for a fair while. However, I bet you've seen several youtube videos where Lamborghini owners tried to take a simple corner, they lost control of the rear end of the car, and crashed. Let me just clue you in. That's not the result of Lamborghini AWD understeer.
MidEnginedSedan Lamborghini's own awd systems proved to be inconsistent, but the Haldex system they now adopted is universally hated among car enthusiasts for exactly this kind of behaviour.
Stephen Bagnell their rear diffs are actually pretty agressive, sending a lot of power to the outer wheel in a corner, being quite prone to oversteer, especially the Evo. The proble with Evo is that it lacks high speed stability due to this trait.
6:04 due to stupid internal bickering. Internal Volkswagen politics is going to destroy a great brand. How could they live with fact that the R8 and even the GTR handles better?
just look at the buyers of lamborghini. the everage lamborghini driver is a show off and knows nothing about cars at all. they buy it, because it is stand out in most parts of the world. considering that, it is no suprise how the car handles.
The big understeer question is a huge pile of bullshit, 90% of the customers who buy this car will never be able to take it to its limits like this. Other motor journalists and track drivers credits the car for its huge stability. Not like a 458 which you can throw off in every corner. This car is perfection 10/10, done by the best german Audi worldclass engineering and Lamborghini design and spirit. And while it might cost over 250.000$ its great value for money compared to Ferrari which starts at nearly 400.000$ retail..
These is just his opinion, my friend. It doesn't mean it is a fact. Most automotive journalists who have tested the Huracan said it handles excellent, like you stated. I do not know where Steve is going with this understeer claim. Randy, the professional driver for Motor Trend, said the Huracan drives better than any Ferrari he has driven. Now, of course, some journalists who are huge Ferrari fans will not give the Huracan enough credit for its great driving dynamics.
PorscheSweden I wasn't suggesting that a Journalist (Steve, in this instance) SHOULD SPEAK for himself. I think it is understood that the Journalist is not representing himself or herself. What I was suggesting is that Steve's claim that the Huracan understeers alot is just his opinion, since other journalist did not find that to be the case, but instead gave the Huracan kudos for its brilliant handling and driving dynamics.
You know that many European reviewers complained about the underwater right? Yes many owners won't push the limit but in your logic a supercar should even fast right? Because most owners won't even reach the top spped
Can't blame lambo for the understeer they just making a car for their customers ie women and rich guys who can't drive. They will eventually release a rwd version with a racing stripe down the middle in a couple of years for an extra 50k.
i agree with the decision to do this though, especially when you can buy the R8 and get what this is "supposed" to be, let me explain: How often do we see knobs with lots of money, but not a clue in the world how to handle a set up "right" car? you know the answer, and what car do they want to buy? yes, the lambo. If you buy the "lambo" and know what you want, you just go with the drivers car version, which is the R8 then, problem solved. I might offend lambo enthusiast with this, but the fact of the matter is, they(lambo) know their demographic, which is good, imo.
having a car set up to understeer is MUCH safer than a properly set up car, when driving on normal roads. Especially when it is to be driven by non-racedrivers. I agree with lambo doing this. also, is it just me, or does this gallardo successor really look more dull and uninspired?
In this case behaving like an Audi (understeer) might not be a bad thing. I guess the understeer comes when close to the limit. Most people driving this car will never drive it that fast and if they do the understeer will help with their limited driving skills. And I guess it's possible to dial down the understeer if you're interested in track driving. And there seems to be a RWD version coming soon.
***** lolzorsPwnage I agree the current car is not good. But I don't think this car will understeer until you get close to it's limit. I hate understeer and specially Audi that has too much understeer in almost all their cars. I was simply stating that regarding the people that will buy this car (very expensive) and when they drive on road, it's better to have understeer. But you are right. It should not have this much understeer. It's like Audi is killing the image of Lambo.
understeer can still suprise unskilled drivers though think having a neutral car is way safer not to crazy to either end of the understeer/oversteer scale.
This guy... he isn't my favorite car reviewer, but every time I watch his videos I always learn information about the car more than other reviewers. For example, other journalist that drove this car did say that it understeers, but not always why...
carbon fibre and aluminum do not have a "materials endurance level" (unlike steel), which means that in the future as a classic the chassis of this car will develop cracks most steel compositions have an endurance level of 0.3, which means that if you stress a steel component to 30% of it's maximum it will never crack
Yes, whether they are stressed to 1% or 50% of their maximum stress during their lifetime the car in the future (which has an aluminum or carbon fibre chassis) will develop cracks. Future classics will be more museum pieces rather than drivable cars. This is simple materials science.
you do realize they are not made of aluminum but out of steel- aluminum alloy? besides, those materials have better tensile strength than pure steel materials so its much bigger force needed to get to those 0.38 of max tensile strength and its after 50 million cycles at that force. all this makes me pretty sure you are safe
i just love, love, love the sound that is maken when you get your foot of the pedals en just let it roll, you can hear it at 6:00 just amazing, a lot of supercars dont have that, and i find that a pitty
ellieisfit15 The 650s isn't a stripped out trackday car. It's still very much a car for the road, which you can drive everyday. The Specialie is more a track weapon. Regardless, I don't think the Huracan would be able to compete a base 458 or a 12C, never mind a Speciale or 650s.
The Mclaren 650S is not the same money. Its about 40% more expensive, which is a HUGE difference. Its probably a better car, but because of the price, looks, sounds and brand value, the Huracan will outsell it several times. And lets be honest now. Lambos have NEVER been good track cars or even good sports cars. On the contrary the "real" lambos like the Countach and the Diablo were horribly driving machines, which had to be manhandled down the road. Lambos have always been all about the looks, the sounds and the drama. So the only difference from Lambos "glorious" past is, that now the cars are not dangerous any more. Its hard to see, why that is a problem.
fundiver198 It's a problem because, when you're driving a 200k Lambo, you don't want it to feel like a 50k Audi. Which is how it now acts. If somebody wants understeer, stick with a RS4.
lolzorsPwnage Completely disagree! Just like DAMN NEAR EVERY single person that reviews this new Hurcan, it's the best entry model ever and 4th best lambo ever... The looks and performance are simply amazing and understeer in an awd with this much power is welcome.... a little less would be nice but if they did, it would be better than its big brother Aventador so not only is this a proper Lambo, it's one of the best ones ever made...
The looks don't leap out, grab you by the throat and wrestle you to the ground. They're a lot more sophisticated like a distilled Gallardo, Murcielago and Aventator. To my eyes at least it's gorgeous
LamborghinI's are too much like Audi's now, too safe and getting rather dull and with the increased 600hp you'd think the top speed and acceleration would be noticeably higher, but 202mph and 3.2s is the same as the old Gallardo LP560/570. Where's the improvement then?
dee jay The first pre facelifted Gallardo was on the market for 6 years without any changes (apart from some small bump in power). In 6 years this car will have to compete against 458 and 650S successors and it loses the battle quite badly right now. Good luck Lamborghini.
Ahh I didn't see it from that perspective. But isn't that just bad business practice? Making a car deliberately worse than they know they can actually make it lol.
Lamborghini's website puts the LP 560-4 at 3.7 sec, so that's about 3.6 sec to 60 mph, that's a 0.4 sec difference, not the same. Make sure you compare apples with apples and oranges with oranges. These are manufacturer claimed figures. If you got your figure from a road test, then wait until they road test the Huracan under the same conditions to make a fair comparison. However, I do agree that it should have greater performance. The Aventador didn't make enough of a leap forward over the Murcielago to allow this.
2:18 A wider track in the front reduces understeer because it reduces the load transfer and thereby decreases the slip angle needed on the front axle. I agree that this isn't common knowledge but i would have expected more from an auto-journalist/race driver.
This version of the Huracan is basic, it’s pretty much the Honda Civic of super cars. The Performante, Aventador, along with the SVJ’s have not lost any soul. You obviously have no clue.
I mean i never thought of a lambo as a good car for drifts and oversteer. Mabe 5% of the owners will push them to that limit often, and after all it's a very fast car, not everybody has the ability to go oversteer a lambo. Even if i had lots of money i would probably buy a lambo for going fast and the feeling of a sports-super car, and maybe a old m3, or gt86 for oversteer and fun. Being realistic that is not a bad move from lambo.
Ferrari haters won't admit but the only thing this has better than the 458 is the looks and the looks is more opinion than anything, Ferrari made more power with less engine displacement and a car that handles better, overall the 458 is miles better than the Hurracan. Probably the Hurracan isn't even better than the R8 that doesn't have (in theory) the technology that the Hirracan has.
Only people that don't know cars think Ferrari's and Lambo's were ever the same character. A Countach and a Testarossa were very different too. Strange though that the R8 off which this car is based - pretty much wipes the floor with the 458 in all the racing series that the compete against each other in.
Amidat it wasn't based of, of that r8 because that was the last gen if this car is based on an r8 it's gonna be based on the new one. also the 458 doesn't to be such a good gt3 car anyway but since gt3 cars don't really have much to do with the road car anyway it's not that relevant i mean the gt3 r8 is RWD no such thing for the road car. and ferrari is more interested in f1 than gt racing anyway.
I really don't like the way AWD cars drive, some AWD systems are better than others for sure thought I find the Quattro one of the worst to people who really enjoy driving, interesting how the Audi Motorsport team chose to have their car RWD right? I wish Audi at least made RWD as optional to some cars, I find some Audis really nice though they lose me as a consumer because it's Quattro. Maybe it's just me or maybe more people think like me and end up buying a Benz or a BMW.
Interesting how when Lambo said to Valentino they were building a special Gallardo and asked him if he could do whatever he wanted to it what it would be? He said without thinking twice RWD. More impressive is that Lambo did it. Maybe he always thought RWD cars made better smiles but Lambo & Audi chose AWD and never asked him even though he was their test driver Audi owned the company after all.
Lamborghini has lost its way under Winkelmann. The thrill is gone. Exotic doesn't belong in the same sentence with Lamborghini. Might as well save some money and get an M6 coupe. At least Ferrari still seems to be trying. We'll see with the 458 successor.
Lamborghini's have never been proper driver's cars. Most of the buyers will Huracans only for the straight line performance and looks to show off, anyway.
Fantastic review. Steve, I always look forward to what you and another man (CH) have to say about a car. I compare a few other reviews with this info and feel that I have a pretty good impression about the reviewed automobile. One pointer: a performance car's steering feel must always be commented on. That and the shifter feel (manual) or a transmission's responsiveness (auto). Reviewers bringing out finer detail about a car's performance, handling and feel are the future of automotive journalism.
It may depend on the individual car: the Huracan I drove last week oversteered a bit, was generally quite tail happy. Front end was very crisp on the turn in. Doug deMuro also found the turn in to be very sharp.
Now if the understeering issue is so important to you, you could tweak the wheel alignments and suspension a bit to bring more into a neutral handling. I even bet no part has to be changed for that.
Sachsenring lap Times - Huracan - 1.32.84 McLaren MP4-12C - 1.33.61 458 Italia -134.40 Nisan GT-R - 1.35.7 But don't tell us Steve, Alpina D3 - 1.20.00!
Despite the negativity. Those of us who drive Audi's understand exactly what he's referring to. This video was well documented. Good job Mr Sutcliffe you are quickly taking the place of Chris Harris. I look forward to your next.
My gallardo had pretty serious under-steer, and I loved it anyway. I had to check myself on tight corners but after that it was as close to rolling therapy as a person could get. I'm going to the Huracan launch event next month and looking forward to seeing it in person.
For a lot of high performance super cars understeer is built in due to it being easier to control than oversteer. This is basically a safety feature for people who can't drive. However i'm pretty sure changing the sway bar gets rid of the understeer.
***** A real driver "powerslides", drifting was made popular by ricers and fast and furious movies. It takes a trained eye, but 90% of all races (even F1) will "go sideways" slightly when cornering. It's not to look cool, but too accelerate to the max so hard that your tires lose grip, *but more importantly; aim your nose inward toward the apex so you can EXIT FASTER*. It's called "steering with the throttle", and it's SO much faster than understeering/having a comp. cut power.
The problem with understeer in track isnt that bad as most buyers of the Huracan will cruise round cities not speed round tracks. I bet these Huracans will be very popular.
it looks super understeery for 30/70 torque split indeed... my question is, is changing the drive mode from corsa to, let's say, strada or sport, change the awd system torque split as well?
On the outside, I don't think it's the best looking Lamborghini. But on the inside...damn! The best looking interior I've ever seen on any exotic sports car.
I've always preferred the Audi A8 over its equivalent Lambo. It still looks gorgeous from the outside and feels expensive from the inside while being one of the very few 4WD sports cars/supercars capable of oversteering. And in quite a cool fashion indeed. Still, I quite enjoy the view of a Gallardo pulling alongside my car on a red light :)
Looking at the in car camera, I think we can all see how much it understeers. Wow. but, couldn't a Huracan owner just install a larger rear sway bar to fix some of that understeer?
Randy Pobst from Motor Trend does has 30 years of experience and , his review he states that the only problem with this car is the ABS setup. In this review your not pushing the car to its limit as Randy Pobst
+Bruce Grimes I agree with you! Other reviewers also say that the car it fells that it understeers a bit, but if you give it gas it will oversteer so you can drift it!!! Guess this guy can only drive m3's and other drift cars ...
The *Lamborghini Huracan, Ferrari 458 Speciale and BMW i8* will be the main attractions on our stand at the Performance Car Show in January. Are coming along? *Details here:* bit.ly/1ww37Qa
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This is one of the best car reviews i've seen in a while
I'm sick of hearing people complain about under steer! Learn to fucking drive then!!! Not "oh well I nearly span out so iIll correct it with some over steer" pick your corner and driving to it you screw up that's your problem!
I think you've got your terms mixed up. There's no nearly spinning an understeering car. You meant oversteer. As for the meat of your post though, I pretty much agree with you. However, some cars are far too sensitive and oversteer prone. You always have to work hard to keep things from going wrong. The best kind of oversteer is the progressive kind you get from a well balanced setup. That type of controllable rear end makes you feel like the car working with you, rather than against you.
You are seriously telling Steve Sutcliffe how to drive????!!!!!
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I don't think you understand what understeer is. The reviewer is complaining about the cars inability to drift sideways. Instead of the back tires losing traction and sliding wide, the front tires are. This is safer, but also much less fun and interesting to a good driver. Some cars are set up to always understeer, even with a great driver.
We'll if you're plucking down 300k for a car, you expect a little more competitiveness to it especially when the target market is also looking at 458s and 650s-s. Under-steer generally make you go wide, over steer goes in more than neutral and the back wheel will be coming out causing a spin out unless you counter-steer and power slide out. 300k and you can't power slide kinda sucks.
MrPanda415 But that's the problem Steve is not buying this car, journalists don't buy these cars! And power sliding means nothing to the people who do buy them. they want that safety net. But yet when a car is setup for cornering like this car, they complain about under steer. Cars that under steer take more skill because you have to use a racing line and learn where it's limits and abilities are. In a car that over steers, it's more fun for the journalists, but that's wrong, to just have that attitude. Each car is different and is not set up for journalists to cock about it!
As TopGear put it, this is the best car Lamborghini has ever made but it's not the best Lamborghini.
Top Gear talk shit.
***** Couldnt agree more. Dont get me wrong, those guys are hilarious, but Clarkson, May and Hammond are the last people I will listen to for car advice.
KHAAAAAAAANNN I'm not talking about the show. I'm talking about the magazine.
yup - that's the conundrum... in order to make better cars - they couldn't make Lamborghini's anymore. By the ever increasing sales they have - it looks as if they and their Audi parents make the right choice.
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You buy this car for it's sexy looks and the sound of that V10 engine. Understeer is the last thing I would worry if I could get my hands on this amazing beast.
This review contrasts pretty starkly with the Motortrend video that just came out today. Makes me wonder...
I didn't care much for Lamborghinis before this, but this is special.
These supercar reviewers need to accept that some of the car companies choose to make "street focused" cars as opposed to "track focused" cars. When Steve says that what he's struggling with, "has nothing to do with the way this cars feels or drives on the road"; the conversation can end there. If I want a track car I'll buy a 911 GT3.
have to disagree with the man in the video saying its the best looking lambo in the last 20 years. then he mentioned the muira and countach. countach? that was the worst looking car lambo have ever built imo.
7:15 he caught air like crazy!!! Loved it.
Oh my god they made it an Italian Audi...
But then it just means it's more of a daily driver, besides I love the more elegant design of the Huracan over the more flamboyant design of the Aventador/Reventon and the Veneno.
Though the next R8 would probably be the better handling car again... just like it did to the Gallardo
if you want a daily driver, then lamborghini should be the wrong adress. there are porsche 911's or bentley continental in VW groupe for this type of cars. lamborghini are extreme in every way, loud, hard to drive, uncomfortable, brutal and fucking fast. That are the points that define the brand. so this here is just crab...
Michel Messina Well, I mean if you love to show off, this is like the best daily driver, if slightly uncomfortable. But it has DSG, 4WD and safe handling.
Lambo were loud and hard to drive. But you're right, this Huracan is crap
MTC0316 yeah you name it "if you love to show off", that's the point!!! at the moment lamborghini only produces cars for new rich people who wanna show that they have a lot of money. but this to me has nothing to do with a good car or perfect engineering..
The whole thing about lamborghini is that they look bonkers, and this car doesnt. I personally think its too soft looking.
Freddy T they are taking a new road and putting on their serious faces now. clubbing is out and "better" engineering is in. they still look bonkers beside other supercars just not as bonkers as usual.
i like that they used the Ibiza Cupra DSG rims just a bit bigger! :P
Yes AWD tends to Under-steer.
Nothing new there.
Lamborghini has used AWD in its cars for a fair while. However, I bet you've seen several youtube videos where Lamborghini owners tried to take a simple corner, they lost control of the rear end of the car, and crashed. Let me just clue you in. That's not the result of Lamborghini AWD understeer.
MidEnginedSedan Lamborghini's own awd systems proved to be inconsistent, but the Haldex system they now adopted is universally hated among car enthusiasts for exactly this kind of behaviour.
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I was talking about Evos and the GTR actually.
Both tend to under steer horribly.
Stephen Bagnell their rear diffs are actually pretty agressive, sending a lot of power to the outer wheel in a corner, being quite prone to oversteer, especially the Evo. The proble with Evo is that it lacks high speed stability due to this trait.
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Well Motot-trend's review was nothing but under-steer.
Randy Pobst was trying very hard to keep it stable.
One of the best reviews ever seen you do.
6:04 due to stupid internal bickering. Internal Volkswagen politics is going to destroy a great brand.
How could they live with fact that the R8 and even the GTR handles better?
just look at the buyers of lamborghini. the everage lamborghini driver is a show off and knows nothing about cars at all. they buy it, because it is stand out in most parts of the world. considering that, it is no suprise how the car handles.
amduser86 absolutely my word
That second up-shift in the sequence around 3:50 is crazy fast..... almost video game sounding.
The big understeer question is a huge pile of bullshit, 90% of the customers who buy this car will never be able to take it to its limits like this. Other motor journalists and track drivers credits the car for its huge stability. Not like a 458 which you can throw off in every corner. This car is perfection 10/10, done by the best german Audi worldclass engineering and Lamborghini design and spirit. And while it might cost over 250.000$ its great value for money compared to Ferrari which starts at nearly 400.000$ retail..
These is just his opinion, my friend. It doesn't mean it is a fact. Most automotive journalists who have tested the Huracan said it handles excellent, like you stated. I do not know where Steve is going with this understeer claim. Randy, the professional driver for Motor Trend, said the Huracan drives better than any Ferrari he has driven. Now, of course, some journalists who are huge Ferrari fans will not give the Huracan enough credit for its great driving dynamics.
tmat04 A journalist should not speak for himself, he should speak so that everyone can relate. This car is fantastic.
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I wasn't suggesting that a Journalist (Steve, in this instance) SHOULD SPEAK for himself. I think it is understood that the Journalist is not representing himself or herself. What I was suggesting is that Steve's claim that the Huracan understeers alot is just his
opinion, since other journalist did not find that to be the case, but instead gave the Huracan kudos for its brilliant handling and driving dynamics.
You know that many European reviewers complained about the underwater right? Yes many owners won't push the limit but in your logic a supercar should even fast right? Because most owners won't even reach the top spped
Don't wanna imagine a stripped down version , with racing exhausts and upgraded ecu :)))
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Can't blame lambo for the understeer they just making a car for their customers ie women and rich guys who can't drive. They will eventually release a rwd version with a racing stripe down the middle in a couple of years for an extra 50k.
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@@perfectentrytrading glad they made it rwd it’s more like a bmw m5 v10 now wild and can drift
02:54 The DJI Phantom quad-copter looking like a floating dog in the distance. XD
C&D put the 0 to 60 time at 2.5 seconds. Is that true?
Saw this car on the weekend, didn't have a chance to sit in it but from the outside it's truly breathtaking...Lamborghini FTW!!!
i agree with the decision to do this though, especially when you can buy the R8 and get what this is "supposed" to be, let me explain: How often do we see knobs with lots of money, but not a clue in the world how to handle a set up "right" car? you know the answer, and what car do they want to buy? yes, the lambo. If you buy the "lambo" and know what you want, you just go with the drivers car version, which is the R8 then, problem solved. I might offend lambo enthusiast with this, but the fact of the matter is, they(lambo) know their demographic, which is good, imo.
having a car set up to understeer is MUCH safer than a properly set up car, when driving on normal roads. Especially when it is to be driven by non-racedrivers. I agree with lambo doing this.
also, is it just me, or does this gallardo successor really look more dull and uninspired?
let's just wait to see how the new r8 drives....
You're making the best car show after the Top Gear. Great car and great video thanks for it.
In this case behaving like an Audi (understeer) might not be a bad thing. I guess the understeer comes when close to the limit. Most people driving this car will never drive it that fast and if they do the understeer will help with their limited driving skills. And I guess it's possible to dial down the understeer if you're interested in track driving. And there seems to be a RWD version coming soon.
What the hell is wrong with you understeer is unexpectable in any super car are you stupid kid
***** lolzorsPwnage I agree the current car is not good. But I don't think this car will understeer until you get close to it's limit. I hate understeer and specially Audi that has too much understeer in almost all their cars. I was simply stating that regarding the people that will buy this car (very expensive) and when they drive on road, it's better to have understeer. But you are right. It should not have this much understeer. It's like Audi is killing the image of Lambo.
understeer can still suprise unskilled drivers though think having a neutral car is way safer not to crazy to either end of the understeer/oversteer scale.
I`m sure within a year or two there will be a 2wd version and various other "hardcore versions". it LOOKS absolutly breathtaking
damnnnnn its so fast it changed colors
This guy... he isn't my favorite car reviewer, but every time I watch his videos I always learn information about the car more than other reviewers. For example, other journalist that drove this car did say that it understeers, but not always why...
carbon fibre and aluminum do not have a "materials endurance level" (unlike steel), which means that in the future as a classic the chassis of this car will develop cracks
most steel compositions have an endurance level of 0.3, which means that if you stress a steel component to 30% of it's maximum it will never crack
So, all audi's cars will "crack" ?
Yes, whether they are stressed to 1% or 50% of their maximum stress during their lifetime the car in the future (which has an aluminum or carbon fibre chassis) will develop cracks.
Future classics will be more museum pieces rather than drivable cars.
This is simple materials science.
Ok, then I'll never sell my audi a6 (95) :)
you do realize they are not made of aluminum but out of steel- aluminum alloy? besides, those materials have better tensile strength than pure steel materials so its much bigger force needed to get to those 0.38 of max tensile strength and its after 50 million cycles at that force. all this makes me pretty sure you are safe
greater tensile stress yes, but no endurance limit.
Love the drone !!
Most of these will probably be doing slow laps around London, so understeer wont be a problem ;)
i just love, love, love the sound that is maken when you get your foot of the pedals en just let it roll, you can hear it at 6:00
just amazing, a lot of supercars dont have that, and i find that a pitty
SAME MONEY - MCLAREN 650S. will distroy this fwd audi or vw!. this is a supercar for pussies
The 650S is 230,000 plus
650s and 458 Speciale are in a different market, of lightweight track day supercars
ellieisfit15
The 650s isn't a stripped out trackday car. It's still very much a car for the road, which you can drive everyday. The Specialie is more a track weapon. Regardless, I don't think the Huracan would be able to compete a base 458 or a 12C, never mind a Speciale or 650s.
The Mclaren 650S is not the same money. Its about 40% more expensive, which is a HUGE difference. Its probably a better car, but because of the price, looks, sounds and brand value, the Huracan will outsell it several times.
And lets be honest now. Lambos have NEVER been good track cars or even good sports cars. On the contrary the "real" lambos like the Countach and the Diablo were horribly driving machines, which had to be manhandled down the road.
Lambos have always been all about the looks, the sounds and the drama. So the only difference from Lambos "glorious" past is, that now the cars are not dangerous any more. Its hard to see, why that is a problem.
fundiver198
It's a problem because, when you're driving a 200k Lambo, you don't want it to feel like a 50k Audi. Which is how it now acts. If somebody wants understeer, stick with a RS4.
Laborghini always meant to me "It's a fast ride or a slow ride, if YOU mess up it's you're last ride".
Times have changed..
what an amazing car...
You mean piece of shit Audi under steering poser car
+lolzorsPwnage Hey look another fanboy
+lolzorsPwnage Hey look another fanboy
Matt Lawrence Romanes How am I a fanboy I believe in the purity of Lambo's this is clearly not a lambo jackass
lolzorsPwnage Completely disagree! Just like DAMN NEAR EVERY single person that reviews this new Hurcan, it's the best entry model ever and 4th best lambo ever... The looks and performance are simply amazing and understeer in an awd with this much power is welcome.... a little less would be nice but if they did, it would be better than its big brother Aventador so not only is this a proper Lambo, it's one of the best ones ever made...
The looks don't leap out, grab you by the throat and wrestle you to the ground. They're a lot more sophisticated like a distilled Gallardo, Murcielago and Aventator. To my eyes at least it's gorgeous
LamborghinI's are too much like Audi's now, too safe and getting rather dull and with the increased 600hp you'd think the top speed and acceleration would be noticeably higher, but 202mph and 3.2s is the same as the old Gallardo LP560/570. Where's the improvement then?
This car is a new model... They always leave room for improvements so people keep buying the cars as they get a little better every year
dee jay The first pre facelifted Gallardo was on the market for 6 years without any changes (apart from some small bump in power). In 6 years this car will have to compete against 458 and 650S successors and it loses the battle quite badly right now. Good luck Lamborghini.
Ahh I didn't see it from that perspective. But isn't that just bad business practice? Making a car deliberately worse than they know they can actually make it lol.
They don't really compete with the 458 and 12c/650s. Lamborghini owners are a completely different crowd.
Lamborghini's website puts the LP 560-4 at 3.7 sec, so that's about 3.6 sec to 60 mph, that's a 0.4 sec difference, not the same. Make sure you compare apples with apples and oranges with oranges. These are manufacturer claimed figures. If you got your figure from a road test, then wait until they road test the Huracan under the same conditions to make a fair comparison.
However, I do agree that it should have greater performance. The Aventador didn't make enough of a leap forward over the Murcielago to allow this.
what's the location? Ive seen it a lot in their video reviews...
Best looking lamborghini in the last 20 years ???? HALLO ? AVENTADOR ??!!!!!!
2:18 A wider track in the front reduces understeer because it reduces the load transfer and thereby decreases the slip angle needed on the front axle. I agree that this isn't common knowledge but i would have expected more from an auto-journalist/race driver.
Lamborghini lost its soul
Owned by Audi, everything is sensible and practical
The exaggeration is gone, this is just a R8 facelift
u forgot to say lol
*owned by VW
lamborghini helped audi make the v10 lol
This version of the Huracan is basic, it’s pretty much the Honda Civic of super cars. The Performante, Aventador, along with the SVJ’s have not lost any soul. You obviously have no clue.
I mean i never thought of a lambo as a good car for drifts and oversteer. Mabe 5% of the owners will push them to that limit often, and after all it's a very fast car, not everybody has the ability to go oversteer a lambo. Even if i had lots of money i would probably buy a lambo for going fast and the feeling of a sports-super car, and maybe a old m3, or gt86 for oversteer and fun. Being realistic that is not a bad move from lambo.
★５つです！ｗ★★★★★
トヨタもこれくらいのデザインやって欲しいものです。
Lamborghini Huracan当代随一の秀逸デザイン！
何度も言いますが、言わずもがな好き嫌いは関係有りません。
面、線、断ち落としのバランス、大区画、中区画、小区画の割合と造形の念入りさ、入念さがトヨタとは段違いの別物。
トヨタのデザイナーは力量が無い。
このモデルは近年のLamborghiniの中で最高の点数を着けられる秀逸デザインですねｗ
例を挙げるとボンネット。ここだけで目眩と頭痛に苛まれる程デザイナーは考え抜いてますね。
ヘッドライトデザインなんかも非常に高度な造形です。難易度極めて高し。
とにかく徹底的に考え、あらゆる条件、光量、角度で破綻の無いデザインに仕上げてます。
大変美しく、素晴らしい造形。
最高の腕前のデザイナーです。素晴らしい。この造形は鬼レベルですハッキリ言って。
これに比べりゃトヨタなんざ小学生の図画工作。デザイナーの技量が違い過ぎる。
alpha schmidt JP
日本車デザインは伸びて来てますよ！
欧州車に肉薄し出してます。
まだ最後の煮詰めが水をあけられてますがね。
何でデザイナーに辛口か？ｗ
これはもう日頃の勉強度合いだからです。ハッキリとそれが現れる。
こいつの更に高度なデザインなのが板厚のデザイン処理。もうピカイチです！！
上手い！とにかく上手い！
このデザインだけでこのプライス取れます。
Lamborghiniは
ムルシェラゴは最悪ｗ
ガヤルドはまぁまぁ。
レベントンはやり過ぎ。
アヴェンタドールはこれにかなり近い。
です。
alpha schmidt JP
あっ！今のインプレッサ！良いデザインしてます！！あれは高得点！
alpha schmidt JP
まぁ愛好家イコールデザインが分かってるとはなりませんからねｗｗ
A ridiculously well shot video. One of the best ones out there. Great car. Great video. Thumbs up.
Ferrari haters won't admit but the only thing this has better than the 458 is the looks and the looks is more opinion than anything, Ferrari made more power with less engine displacement and a car that handles better, overall the 458 is miles better than the Hurracan. Probably the Hurracan isn't even better than the R8 that doesn't have (in theory) the technology that the Hirracan has.
Only people that don't know cars think Ferrari's and Lambo's were ever the same character. A Countach and a Testarossa were very different too. Strange though that the R8 off which this car is based - pretty much wipes the floor with the 458 in all the racing series that the compete against each other in.
Amidat it wasn't based of, of that r8 because that was the last gen if this car is based on an r8 it's gonna be based on the new one. also the 458 doesn't to be such a good gt3 car anyway but since gt3 cars don't really have much to do with the road car anyway it's not that relevant i mean the gt3 r8 is RWD no such thing for the road car. and ferrari is more interested in f1 than gt racing anyway.
I really don't like the way AWD cars drive, some AWD systems are better than others for sure thought I find the Quattro one of the worst to people who really enjoy driving, interesting how the Audi Motorsport team chose to have their car RWD right? I wish Audi at least made RWD as optional to some cars, I find some Audis really nice though they lose me as a consumer because it's Quattro. Maybe it's just me or maybe more people think like me and end up buying a Benz or a BMW.
Daniel Maia shouldn't be that hard since the gt3 r8 is RWD.
Interesting how when Lambo said to Valentino they were building a special Gallardo and asked him if he could do whatever he wanted to it what it would be? He said without thinking twice RWD. More impressive is that Lambo did it. Maybe he always thought RWD cars made better smiles but Lambo & Audi chose AWD and never asked him even though he was their test driver Audi owned the company after all.
nice review steve!! ;)
Lamborghini has lost its way under Winkelmann. The thrill is gone. Exotic doesn't belong in the same sentence with Lamborghini. Might as well save some money and get an M6 coupe.
At least Ferrari still seems to be trying. We'll see with the 458 successor.
So you prefer the days when Lamborghini's would break easily - or you had to wonder if it would start?
Amidat I dont recall Lamborghini Countach's and Diabloas ever having reliability issues. What are you talking about?
MisterLiBRiUMz you don't?? Lambo was notorious for build quality issues.
Amidat On some models, yes. But not the Countach. It was a very solid car. The Diablo had clutch and gearbox issues.
MisterLiBRiUMz Countach's were notoriously twitchy mechanically
DAm you Steve you're pulling me out of infatuation with the Huracan.
Lamborghini's have never been proper driver's cars. Most of the buyers will Huracans only for the straight line performance and looks to show off, anyway.
Well produced, great information. Enjoyed watching
fanboys hating cars they cant afford
Fantastic review. Steve, I always look forward to what you and another man (CH) have to say about a car. I compare a few other reviews with this info and feel that I have a pretty good impression about the reviewed automobile. One pointer: a performance car's steering feel must always be commented on. That and the shifter feel (manual) or a transmission's responsiveness (auto). Reviewers bringing out finer detail about a car's performance, handling and feel are the future of automotive journalism.
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I like this guys reviews, he goes really fast through every corner, just look at him, not a care in the world
Lamborghini will not be a lamborghini if the raging bull is tamed
It may depend on the individual car: the Huracan I drove last week oversteered a bit, was generally quite tail happy. Front end was very crisp on the turn in. Doug deMuro also found the turn in to be very sharp.
It might understeer, but I still want it more than any Lamborghini since the Miura! What a sexy machine!
Now if the understeering issue is so important to you, you could tweak the wheel alignments and suspension a bit to bring more into a neutral handling. I even bet no part has to be changed for that.
I still watch this at least 10 times a week.....
The Huracan, an absolute beast of a V10 and looks tough af...🤙
Sachsenring lap Times -
Huracan - 1.32.84
McLaren MP4-12C - 1.33.61
458 Italia -134.40
Nisan GT-R - 1.35.7
But don't tell us Steve, Alpina D3 - 1.20.00!
以前言いましたが、Lamborghini HURACAN
ハイレベルデザイン！
Have you tried a little more pressure on the rear tires ?
Could that be a wheel alignment issue?
Maybe a harder rear anti roll bar could change the road handling on the limit?
The lines are good, but I like the proportions of the Aventador better. 3:07 that is one menacing looking car though, I love it.
Despite the negativity. Those of us who drive Audi's understand exactly what he's referring to. This video was well documented. Good job Mr Sutcliffe you are quickly taking the place of Chris Harris. I look forward to your next.
My gallardo had pretty serious under-steer, and I loved it anyway. I had to check myself on tight corners but after that it was as close to rolling therapy as a person could get. I'm going to the Huracan launch event next month and looking forward to seeing it in person.
Very impressive , specially as the oil price drop down, the big question how many unites have been sold in the UK
2:57 RC camera :)
Turn the bloody music down so we can hear the car, thats why I clicked on it
I kinda agree with this guy. This is like a countach rebirth! I want one! IT'S SENSATIONAL!
So why are you turning off the ESC?
For a lot of high performance super cars understeer is built in due to it being easier to control than oversteer. This is basically a safety feature for people who can't drive. However i'm pretty sure changing the sway bar gets rid of the understeer.
Fantastic review by Steve as always
Great great videos you're providing to us Autocar i thank you for that.
Kicking out the rear end of a supercar is one of life's great joys, com'on Lamborghini!
AWD, automatic gearboxes and computer control are the future.
In the name of safety of course.
***** A real driver "powerslides", drifting was made popular by ricers and fast and furious movies. It takes a trained eye, but 90% of all races (even F1) will "go sideways" slightly when cornering. It's not to look cool, but too accelerate to the max so hard that your tires lose grip, *but more importantly; aim your nose inward toward the apex so you can EXIT FASTER*. It's called "steering with the throttle", and it's SO much faster than understeering/having a comp. cut power.
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This car overrall looks amazing! Butt that Matte black is just out of this world!
I thought they said before you can change it from AWD to completely rear wheel drive. If it understeers change it more RWD?
what's the background song at the very start?
Wow,with that interior view, you could actually see the understeer happening!
Under steers, just like every other Audi. I love the 2 little arms that are feeding its mouth in the front.
I really like the look and sound of this beast
Nice Grip Driving!
What drone are you guys using!?!
The problem with understeer in track isnt that bad as most buyers of the Huracan will cruise round cities not speed round tracks. I bet these Huracans will be very popular.
Didn't expect it to understeer that much! That kills it for me. 458 speciale all day, everyday.
Steve, what are you talking about??? A shopping trolley has mad mad oversteer!! :P
This one has a glass roof housing on the engine bay?
it looks super understeery for 30/70 torque split indeed... my question is, is changing the drive mode from corsa to, let's say, strada or sport, change the awd system torque split as well?
Ok whats understeer? please explain
So, what if you just swap the front wheels with the rear ones?
On the outside, I don't think it's the best looking Lamborghini. But on the inside...damn! The best looking interior I've ever seen on any exotic sports car.
I've always preferred the Audi A8 over its equivalent Lambo. It still looks gorgeous from the outside and feels expensive from the inside while being one of the very few 4WD sports cars/supercars capable of oversteering. And in quite a cool fashion indeed.
Still, I quite enjoy the view of a Gallardo pulling alongside my car on a red light :)
Oh boy. This thing looks smooth.
Yes, but how fast was it round your track?
Amazing driving!!!
Looking at the in car camera, I think we can all see how much it understeers. Wow. but, couldn't a Huracan owner just install a larger rear sway bar to fix some of that understeer?
Randy Pobst from Motor Trend does has 30 years of experience and , his review he states that the only problem with this car is the ABS setup. In this review your not pushing the car to its limit as Randy Pobst
+Bruce Grimes I agree with you! Other reviewers also say that the car it fells that it understeers a bit, but if you give it gas it will oversteer so you can drift it!!! Guess this guy can only drive m3's and other drift cars ...
Great review