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How Come Guitar Teachers Never Tell Us This Stuff?
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- Опубликовано: 29 апр 2024
- I loved all of my teachers, but they sure did miss helping me connect all the dots. Did this happen to you too? For example...how scales live inside of other scales. So Many Holes. Please share your thoughts in the comments. Keep going!
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often guitar teaches never tell students "stuff" because they never actually ask or listen to students beforehand, or even while they're learning. Some just don't have the skillset to effectively communicate the intricate points of uncertainty regarding many aspects their students are learning. They just go through the motions of theory and practice step by step. The ability to explain in simple/clear terms why they're doing something isn't a learned skill of all teachers. I know this to be true. I had been an educator/professor for over 30yrs
All great points. Sometimes too, the student doesn't even know what to ask until that time comes. Becoming a great teacher is very similar to becoming a great musician. It just takes time and passion for what you are doing. Thanks for sharing and keep on teaching.
@@mrelmoresmusiclab agreed, though within the same regard of being a competent musician, a competent teacher should be able to anticipate, and get to the root of whatever a student can't skillfully explain, or even put into words at their level. Of course, all this depends on the participation of the student as much as the instructor --rock on !
You are correct. You definitely need to constantly ask comprehension questions along the way to assess where they are in their learning. I loved my teachers, but looking back on it, there were so many holes for me to fill in. It's all good though, everyday is a new day to learn. You rock on as well and thanks for checking out the channel.
ok this kinda blew my mind.. i've seen this before, i've learned this before, but it didnt' click until i saw your video and you demo'd doing the minor scale then directly into the major scale. what a great video
Thanks for that. Yes, so many dots to connect musically. One day at a time. :)
Great teaching style. Please keep the break-down of concepts coming. I appreciate all the time and effort you put into sharing your passion.
Thanks so much. I will keep them coming. You keep going too.
Love these breakdowns - in so many videos etc all you see is a wall of dots, and someone just shredding their way through it. Appreciate the pace and focus, great video thankyou.
Thanks so much. I’ll keep them coming. Keep going Dirty Harry.
Thanks for this my friend and for the charts they have proved invaluable to me
No worries, keep on jamming. :)
As a Guitar instructor, I agree with you. I'd love to teach my students how to connect the dots and put the knowledge together..... but sadly, I rarely have a student interested in that. Most of my students have a hobbyist goal mindset. They want to play their favorite songs so they can say they can play. Rarely do I have a student that says "how do I know what scale to use?" or "How do you write songs?"
It's more often "How do you play master of puppets" or "how can I read tabs and make what I'm playing sound like the song?" or "How do I get faster at shredding?"
If nothing else, this is a good reminder for me to keep asking and gauging my student's interests in theory.
Wow, you make some truly amazing points right here. I think we are both so passionate about Guitar. It’s hard for us to almost understand that mindset.
I also try and realize that the world is so full of distractions and buzzing energy. It makes it hard for all of us. Ha ha.
Just keep doing what you’re doing and even if you can get one of them to fall in love with it, you’re doing your job. It might not even happen now, but I guarantee you many of your students will never forget you.
Thanks for the amazing comments and please keep on teaching. The world needs amazing Guitar teachers like you. We’ve already won my friend. 😎
I understand both points of view here, and I have another. I am 61 and just starting to play. My wife (we are remarried, together 7 years) is a drummer, and she has participated in jam sessions, and is more familiar with keeping time and playing in a group setting. I have never done this, but this is what I'm working towards. I am not looking to join a band, or even make records, I just want to be able to play well enough in these jam sessions. So, I'm watching videos that show how to play riffs, licks, and even songs.
@@marcd1981 That's awesome. Sounds like you have a great plan. I just started this and I am going to shoot another one tonight, but you might dig this too. Trying to show the behind the scenes of what really happens. Let me know what you think. Keep going my friend. ruclips.net/p/PLns2B3bkf4ymTWV_uGYdhB1jT8cuvVLtO
@@mrelmoresmusiclab I definitely plan on watching your videos. My guitar journey is going to involve more than just learning to get decent on the guitar, I have a couple of Cigar Box Guitars I've been learning on, and last year I bought a keyboard. A lot of videos on RUclips to get going on them all!
@@marcd1981 Awesome, in the end, playing music with other humans is amazing. My mom is a great musician and she's in multiple jam groups. Definitely check out some of my playlists. The bread and butter of my channel is teaching and it's what I love doing most. Off to band practice I go. Woohoo. Having fun is the only rule in music. :)
Tension is starting on the root note ending on a note in the chord in the chord but not the root. Then getting back to the root in the next lick.
As a beginner, I found this video very enlightening! Thanks!
Thanks so much. Lots more to come. Keep going! :)
I noticed when i taught that many students were actually told this stuff.....they just didn’t pay attention enough.
I think there is definitely a lot of this too. I loved my teachers, but they definitely missed telling me a lot. I was obsessed with guitar and hung on their every word. I know the world is really different now.
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Really interesting and helpful ! Thank you for sharing ! New subscriber.
Thanks so much, lots more to come and welcome. Keep going.
Thanks for posting
My pleasure. Lots more to come. Keep going!
I learned the same concept but in a different context from the Heavy Guitar Bible book. You envision 2 pentatonic scales... one on the root and one on the relative minor 3 frets down. You can play on either of these separately, but when you superimpose the two together, you end up with the same scale that you show in the video.
Great way to envision it. Thanks for sharing.
Connecting chords, scales, modes, pentatonics, arpeggios, triads are giant step in learning guitar the other is rhythm and put the notes in time and know which chord is coming next...
Thanks!
So true. It just takes a lot of time and patience. Have fun with it no doubt.
You have a lovely falsetto
I like the dudes energy as a teacher so I will subscribe
Thanks for the kind words. Lots more to come and keep going. You got this. :) Thanks for the sub. Lots of great peeps around here.
We just gotta “slide” into it.
That’s funny 😂😂😂
That was funny...and in no way do you want me to play slide. LMAO!
That's a nice chord wheel.
Yeah, I love that one. A great chord wheel for sure. :)
Thanks, but strange getting lessons from dennis miller
That's too funny....I've heard that one...Steve Carell...and Aaron Rodgers like a 100 times. haha. Keep jamming.
I always wondered why teachers didn’t “connect the dots”. Then when I started teaching people and showed them how to connect the dots I sounded like a sorcerer blathering recipes only I could understand. I realized then that pretty much everyone sounded like that when explaining advanced concepts, which further lead me to realize “connecting the dots” is a very personal process that is directly responsible for how you create your “sound”
You can’t teach people to understand, you can help them along, but most of the time you indulge yourself by talking higher concepts it confuses and bores the hell out of them. My approach now is to pay attention to the student and how they are making meaning, and then I’ll add something small they might not have noticed to broaden their horizons. I certainly don’t hit them with too much until they seem ready for a big jump
Wow, that is a really amazing insight. I think you hit the nail on the head when you said that you pay attention to the student and add something small they need. Knowing your student on a personal level and what motivates them is the most important thing and you clearly understand this. Sounds like you are a great teacher and keep teaching.
Thanks for the reply and I will probably do more of these style of vids as I think of them. Thanks too for checking out the channel. We have some awesome people around here. :)
@@mrelmoresmusiclab one example with a student is i noticed they were learning the fretboard through chord shapes. they particularly like C, so i was like 'oh, there is another C shape you already know and can use too", then next week i showed another, next week i showed how G is similar. each time i showed him i'd make a point of making a exercise to learn to chain the shapes and make melodies with them.
a couple months later i mentioned something briefly about how they have names for these concepts like 'inversions' and 'CAGED". the student didn't care about the fancy names so i dropped it and moved on to something they were interested in.
what is really rewarding is when they come in later talking about 'inversions' because they found it on their own. then i'll challenge them and make them teach me what they learned... and then i add a little small thing to it.
That's awesome. Yes, love it when they have those light bulb moments. You have a great approach to teaching. Keep it up. :)
Holy hell…its right there, never noticed… uggghhh!! Thx!
I know right! I have this discoveries all the time and I'm like what the heck? haha. On the other hand, super cool that music is so deep we never stop learning.
This is why I like the 12 key system better (in which there are no minor keys). The 24 key system just adds unnecessary confusion.
I can definitely see that side of things too. Never hurts to simplify things and connect the dots overtime.
Tell me about it and then they do a turnaround and laugh at you behind your back. Like you can't hear them potato heads
Get back to the root note to release the tension
I don't think teachers "tell us this stuff" because "this stuff", IMO, is gratuitous. Because G major and E minor are relative to each other and therefore the same scale, what guitarists really need to do is to learn the diatonic and pentatonic shapes all over the fretboard.
Once learned, if the song is in the key of G major, we can opt to play G major diatonic or pentatonic shapes anywhere on the fretboard. If it is in the key of E minor, we can play the same shapes but think of them in their relative minor key instead.
And to add to that just learn all of the major and minor triads with the various arps and you are set. Thanks for the reply.
I feel like guitar players have high pich speaking voices, i might should try a bass.
Yeah, luckily for me parlayed that into some paid voice acting stuff. haha. I do love some bass, but it never lowers my voice darn it. haha.
Jellyfish!
Thanks my friend. Keep going jellyfish. ha
Some guitar teachers suck.
Sue for malpractice.
I'm gonna lawyer up. haha