I heard they were hoping to have the combination of trackers and standable work in the future, which i think would be the best thing. It would be nice to use just 2-3 IMU trackers and the rest being estimated. Cheapest and least invasive solution while still being plenty good at tracking.
i've been using standable forr.... about 3 months? and it's been so cool being able to use ovr advanced settings playspace movement and _actually_ phase through walls n stuff. really does add to the immersion and it was a really good purchase for the time being while i save up for some slimes or something xD
as someone who is a huge vrchat fan and a huge fan of vr in generel i love seeing this, its a inexpensive way of having a good ammount of tracking, and while it may not be full body tracking, i'd say for 20 dollar's its WAY more then worth it, no camera's, no need to wait for shipping for the thing even, and a simple set-up, just perfect for people who want to see if they would truly want full body tracking or not
Btw personally for me it works much better then in this video, probably its because author locked head instead of both, it should be locked both and author probably didn't set floor level right, its really tricky and working strange, for some reason its works better if floor will be a bit higher and you need time to understand how standable works and which it can handle, in that case you will walk in that way so standable will recognize your movement better, its absolutely comfort and natural, plus in september should be released new version of standable, which will have much cooler features (its not an ad, i just really liked standable)
this is awesome! i was worried about how i would achive fbt (without trackers or cameras) while wearing long skirts/dresses and this answers all of my questions! its amazing how there are so many options for everyone!
if they made it possible to use a phone or a webcam to do camera tracking on top of having FBE I feel like that could fix most of the issues that camera tracking has, and could possibly be on par to actual trackers. not sure if it would work, I see standable as some sort of black magic but just putting in my input
Huh, this is indeed interesting to learn about. I can see this being a much cheaper alternative for the future, mostly for those that plan to never expose themselves.
Thats pretty cool. Have you looked into the Pico 4 trackers? Are they worth it? Are they better than Slime VR trackers or Sony's Mocopi? Would you be willing to do a comparison of all three types of trackers?
I watched a video about the Pico4 trackers. They are not body trackers and as far as I understand, there are only a few applications where you can use them. They are not expensive and for that it might be interesting to get them... if they would work with PCVR as well.
@@Ro11erDemon The trackers of the Pico4 only register the movement of your legs by the knees. Ful body tracking are often 4 to 5 devices, tracking arm, legs and head. They are more precise, but also a lot more expensive.
I use Standable. I've had so many people assume I'm in full body until I tell them. Pros: it works well for standing and sitting ON THE FLOOR Cons: if you sit on a chair or couch, and slouch like I do, you glitch out and your neck is in your back. It's good for dancing and socializing!
Thanks for the video... I think that's the way to go. Handtracking is already getting much better with the latest updates and this seems to me only the logical next step. I don't want to attach more items to my body. All I want to need is my headset and with the Quest3 that has a faster chip, it can be able to calculate full body movement better.
MINOR nitpick but could I ask you to switch up the background music in your videos every once in a while? That one song in the beginning of your videos is getting a bit grating to listen to over and over again. Love your videos, all other things aside. I just thought I'd bring it up. May or may not be bugging others too. I know good copyright free music isn't always the easiest thing to find though, lol Keep up the good work, hugs and kisses -Susan
I don't want trackers, but what I do want is to be able to move my arms without the elbows suddenly snapping backwards. I might need to grab this, since it may fix this issue.
I think they should just improve full body estimation for every game instead of making pseudo fake tracking part. I do prone a lot in Pavlov and people keep asking me if I had full body tracking or not. The answer is always no, but this mean Pavlov full body estimation look better than normal.
@@thomoebth8184 This made me chuckle, thank you Thomoebth I'd like to imagine that as like a shockwave that happens to your avatar whenever you experience 𝙚𝙢𝙤𝙩𝙞𝙤𝙣𝙖𝙡 𝙙𝙖𝙢𝙖𝙜𝙚
Driver4vr, something I think he's covered is only $18. Been using it for the past month or so and it works really well. At least in vrchat. Does the Kinect, and so too your computers camera or other things
How about pico 4 trackers, theyre very cheap for trackers but sadly rn it only works on chinese firmware and with one app, i really am looking forward for it to work with PCVR
what about a 20 dollar camera cant you use that to track? or nvm guess it sounds dumb but ima leave this up here to see where it goes probably no where but just incase just a thought in mind lol
less than a minute in and your already saying things that just aren't true. The quest 3 Cameras can estimate Full Body Tracking, and it does the upper body extremely well, using Virtual Desktop to help simulate Vive Trackers.
Whenever I try to launch Standable, It throws me the error: "Cannot render an instanced Stereo-enabled project due to a missing functionality on the system. Please check the log files for more info" There is no log file in the saved/logs directory in appdata. WAAAAH
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I heard they were hoping to have the combination of trackers and standable work in the future, which i think would be the best thing. It would be nice to use just 2-3 IMU trackers and the rest being estimated. Cheapest and least invasive solution while still being plenty good at tracking.
@@ByteByteMause get in contact with the devs, im sure they need testers.
Planned feature for 1.0 I think, but devs have no idea when 1.0 will happen last time I asked
slimeVR developers say that you need 5 IMU trackers minimum for their method to work, idk if just having 2-3 would be enough
Come back and check their new update, not only is the base software much more suitable, but combining standable with trackers is now possible!
i've been using standable forr.... about 3 months? and it's been so cool being able to use ovr advanced settings playspace movement and _actually_ phase through walls n stuff.
really does add to the immersion and it was a really good purchase for the time being while i save up for some slimes or something xD
as someone who is a huge vrchat fan and a huge fan of vr in generel i love seeing this, its a inexpensive way of having a good ammount of tracking, and while it may not be full body tracking, i'd say for 20 dollar's its WAY more then worth it, no camera's, no need to wait for shipping for the thing even, and a simple set-up, just perfect for people who want to see if they would truly want full body tracking or not
Im using standable for a while now, and i think for vrchat its must have if you don't have a fullbody tracking, i really recommend it
Btw personally for me it works much better then in this video, probably its because author locked head instead of both, it should be locked both and author probably didn't set floor level right, its really tricky and working strange, for some reason its works better if floor will be a bit higher and you need time to understand how standable works and which it can handle, in that case you will walk in that way so standable will recognize your movement better, its absolutely comfort and natural, plus in september should be released new version of standable, which will have much cooler features (its not an ad, i just really liked standable)
this is awesome! i was worried about how i would achive fbt (without trackers or cameras) while wearing long skirts/dresses and this answers all of my questions! its amazing how there are so many options for everyone!
if they made it possible to use a phone or a webcam to do camera tracking on top of having FBE I feel like that could fix most of the issues that camera tracking has, and could possibly be on par to actual trackers. not sure if it would work, I see standable as some sort of black magic but just putting in my input
Huh, this is indeed interesting to learn about. I can see this being a much cheaper alternative for the future, mostly for those that plan to never expose themselves.
Thats pretty cool. Have you looked into the Pico 4 trackers? Are they worth it? Are they better than Slime VR trackers or Sony's Mocopi? Would you be willing to do a comparison of all three types of trackers?
I watched a video about the Pico4 trackers. They are not body trackers and as far as I understand, there are only a few applications where you can use them. They are not expensive and for that it might be interesting to get them... if they would work with PCVR as well.
@@SjaakSchulteis if the Pico 4 trackers aren't body trackers, what kind of trackers are they?
@@Ro11erDemon They are motion trackers. Seems to be different.
@@SjaakSchulteis I'm a total noob to this so I guess it's a bit hard for me to understand the difference between the two. 🤷♂️
@@Ro11erDemon The trackers of the Pico4 only register the movement of your legs by the knees. Ful body tracking are often 4 to 5 devices, tracking arm, legs and head. They are more precise, but also a lot more expensive.
Love the new pfp and congrats on 200k subscribers
Can't wait for the 2.0 update that should be coming soon this year! already a big standable user
Congratulations on the 200k!
I use Standable. I've had so many people assume I'm in full body until I tell them.
Pros: it works well for standing and sitting ON THE FLOOR
Cons: if you sit on a chair or couch, and slouch like I do, you glitch out and your neck is in your back.
It's good for dancing and socializing!
Thanks for the video... I think that's the way to go. Handtracking is already getting much better with the latest updates and this seems to me only the logical next step. I don't want to attach more items to my body. All I want to need is my headset and with the Quest3 that has a faster chip, it can be able to calculate full body movement better.
MINOR nitpick but could I ask you to switch up the background music in your videos every once in a while?
That one song in the beginning of your videos is getting a bit grating to listen to over and over again.
Love your videos, all other things aside. I just thought I'd bring it up. May or may not be bugging others too.
I know good copyright free music isn't always the easiest thing to find though, lol
Keep up the good work, hugs and kisses
-Susan
I think there is possibly some solution will combine with camera tracking to improve fbt detection
that's super impressive for software tracking
I don't want trackers, but what I do want is to be able to move my arms without the elbows suddenly snapping backwards. I might need to grab this, since it may fix this issue.
I wonder.. if you already have trackers but not elbows and knees could it improve your FBT too?
sick, congrats on 200k btw
congrats on 200K subs! :D
I don't understand why people are claiming like this is some next level technology. It's an IK solver. Nothing else, just clever algorithms and math
"trust me this is $20" sent me
Great video
I suggest turning off shoulder tracking, most of the time the shoulders get a little.. wonky
I think they should just improve full body estimation for every game instead of making pseudo fake tracking part.
I do prone a lot in Pavlov and people keep asking me if I had full body tracking or not.
The answer is always no, but this mean Pavlov full body estimation look better than normal.
ive had standable for a few months so far, bought it for 30 aud
currently, only issues ive had are mostly vrchat issues and quest issues
This looks like a good supplement to full body as is
Full body estimation is what I hoped Vrchat already did many years ago. But then I kneel and my avatar got all weird lol
Until your toes is being tracked then it's not full body tracking.
I think most people just flat out disagree with you
But you do you do
Do you also need heart rate, blood pressure, and nose tracking?
@@mageenderman 🤣🤣🤣 why not even eeemoootionaaal damaaage tracking could be cool lol
@@thomoebth8184 This made me chuckle, thank you Thomoebth
I'd like to imagine that as like a shockwave that happens to your avatar whenever you experience 𝙚𝙢𝙤𝙩𝙞𝙤𝙣𝙖𝙡 𝙙𝙖𝙢𝙖𝙜𝙚
He never said it is full body tracking though
you even watch the video?
Me: Be ready mocopi kun i have a idea 😏
Mocopi : Hai!
It actually might be possible to make something like standable but in avatar using Animator and bunch of animations
You should look into a cheap way to use body tracking with xbox kinect wouldn't mind seeing a video on that 👍
Driver4vr, something I think he's covered is only $18. Been using it for the past month or so and it works really well. At least in vrchat. Does the Kinect, and so too your computers camera or other things
czekaj ty jestes polakiem?
Which one headset kit you use? i'm tryna find one, but in brazil is the most hard thing to find.
Wait mysticle are u from poland? cuz on steam u pay złoty and not dollars
Yup I'm Polish :)
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Wow cool I want it!
when I'm trying to sit then idk why my legs are crossing up idk how to fix it
How about pico 4 trackers, theyre very cheap for trackers but sadly rn it only works on chinese firmware and with one app, i really am looking forward for it to work with PCVR
0:38 wrong cuz my bff is using her quest cameras for her own full body tracking.
Hello there! :D
Anyone know if it is possible to use 6 point tracking W/ standable in order to achieve a little more smoothness in the IK?
cna you do a video with standable and vive trackers see if it can mak you look better in fbt
standable is on sidequest actually
So now I want to see this tested with trackers....
Replacing the hip with phone is decent
(Owotrack + Slimevr server)
Not possible, yet. Dev has plans to make it a feature for 1.0 tho I think
@@ManicQuinn I thought it was 2.0?
Anyhow yes you're correct proper mixing isn't implemented yet
@@mageenderman I guess so, forgot, my bad
Full body estimation is like the default animations of VRChat but a lot more natural. Still not accurate, but natural
what about a 20 dollar camera cant you use that to track? or nvm guess it sounds dumb but ima leave this up here to see where it goes probably no where but just incase just a thought in mind lol
Hi
*Polish currency detected, activate Polish national pride in the comments*
so we just goinna ignore the random shot at the end?
200k subs!!! I remember when you were just at 30k!
heb je filmpjes ook in het nederlands
świetny akcent angielski!!!
no dosłownie się zdziwiłem jak zobaczyłem że steam ma w złotych
I like your new youtube profil pic
less than a minute in and your already saying things that just aren't true.
The quest 3 Cameras can estimate Full Body Tracking, and it does the upper body extremely well, using Virtual Desktop to help simulate Vive Trackers.
Let me remind you that upper body isn't full body and that estimation is not tracking.
FINALY
Is it working on standalone
i downloaded the app an it was laggy asf I don’t understand this
here before this blows up
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How much does it cost to make your own slimevrs?
Whenever I try to launch Standable, It throws me the error: "Cannot render an instanced Stereo-enabled project due to a missing functionality on the system. Please check the log files for more info" There is no log file in the saved/logs directory in appdata. WAAAAH
Any support in the discord?
@@mageenderman TBH I didn't know there was a discord 😅
@@T_ufy you should check there lol
Cool
does this work for 2 trackers
New pfp?
Welp guess I can’t get it cuz my pc is bad
Wait... you're a Shiba!?
why why its so expensive 92,99zł Why
Why dies the avatar look dead inside? Almost like a hunter's stuffed trophy animal.
aha polska waluta w filmie zagranicznym ale że 100zł za taką aplikację prawie jak za darmo
awwww man im on oculus not steam :(
try VR EZ FBT
No kuźwa ale 9 dych? Posrało.
I've been trying to get standable to work for weeks
Just asking but, has the tutorial video help?
@@K_Safe538 nope. Steam doesn't even realize I have standable installed
VPN? or actually polish
Actually Polish 🙂
Hey join us on the 23 12 pm #wearevr
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practical game use: VRChat 🙄
ah..darn, not a real app. rip.
Fym not real, my friend has this shit lmao
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i was going to think of something funny but i can't so can you pin me
it sucks u cant move ur legs independently!! there’s joy in kicking people smh
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Great video