Psychonauts 2 - #12 - The Bowling Aspect
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Gotta say, Hollis Forsythe grew on me. She's a dork but pretty much the best person to "herd the cats" that are the Psychonauts.
I really like that a pair of half-a-minds are split between Ford's psyches. Nice detail.
"actually... my family is great..."
"oh... mine too!"
I spit my water
I was only trying to relate. You know, like in a human way.
Is also a great line.
I'm not super into bowling or the lingo, but here's a little of what I know:
-In bowling, you play in frames - you get two shots, then your opponent gets two. The tenth frame is the last one you play, like the ninth inning in baseball. It's usually three shots in the final frame, but I've heard it can be two sometimes.
-A turkey in bowling is three strikes in a row, adding up to 30 points (each strike being 10 points) which, if you're playing competitively, gives you a massive advantage.
-Ford mentioned several special names or phrases if you leave pins up. For example, the 7 &10 split refers to the classic two back pins on either side still standing. It might have other names as I've heard them referred to as ' the goalposts/bedposts', but it's one of the hardest shots to do in bowling (Apparently, your best bet is to hit one of them so hard that it bounces into the other which...good luck with that!)
Bowling has ten frames, each frame has two shots to roll the ball down the lane and knock over all the pins, then the total of the pins you knock down in that frame is counted. If you knock them down in the first shot of the frame, that's a Strike. Strikes are worth ten points, plus the score from the next two rolls. If you fail to knock them down in the first roll of the frame,you get a second shot in that frame to get the pins down. If you clear them all in two rolls of the frame, that's a Spare and it is 10 plus the next roll's value.
The tenth frame acts like any other frame except for the bonus roll, which you get if you roll a Strike, which normally ends a frame, gets you two more rolls, and the spare allows you the last bonus roll
I missed this on my playthrough, so make sure you explore all around the maps BEFORE moving on to new places. Lili should probably be around the back side of the motherlobe.
And don't be bothered about taking your time. This game practically demands you to go through it slowly.
9:27 Love how her face changes when making a threat to raz...
Though probably a good thing he doesn't try to change her mind too... She could end up wanting to burn children..
Speaking off... Who else thinks Boyd was scheduled to be visited by Hollis, before Couch "hired" him.
Like seriously, hollis probably could have changed some mental connections to help him.
You might already have done this, but check out your options menu for hidden levitation ball options that really shouldn't have been secreted.
"Oh, we're inside a large shoe." 26:55 That line just got me for some reason.
The thing is Razputin *does* drink.
Boyd: There's, something in, the fridge, that will help you see things, the way, I do.
Raz: Oh, sorry. I don't drink... Before noon, I mean.
Also, I brought it up before but I really think DoubleFine should've snuck in a cheeky Iron Brigade reference and have Coach come up with an idea for a mobile trench on legs.
If I remember correctly, in bowling when you get a strike you get to make a bonus shot on fresh pins. If the second set is a strike, then you get a final bonus shot. If that third one is a strike, you've gotten a "Turkey".
It might be an unintended detail, but... Otto's mural is the only one which is completely obscured in shadow. Take that as you will.
I love how Raz is asking for permission to enter the minds now our sweet cute boy has learned his lesson about respect
I think you are making the same mistake I did: Bob Zanotto (Lili’s grand uncle and member of the Psychic Six, current whereabouts unknown) is a different character to Truman Zanotto (Lili’s father, director of the Psychonauts, currently pretending to be in a coma at the Morherlobe). I think the game could have done something to make it more clear that the two characters are separate early on.
I mean, they explicitly call them by different names and call Bob Lili's great uncle and Truman her dad. Plus, their designs are different.
I mean the 20 foot tall stone relief of Bob and Raz's dialogue repeatedly saying their relationship to Lili kinda makes it clear in my eyes?
@@inkmaster5480 their designs are unclear because the stone and painting of the psychic six could pretty easily be what Truman looked like when he was younger.
They never refer to both at the same time, which can lead to confusion. It’s easy to remember that Lili has a familial connection to Truman, but forget what the specific relationship is.
@@EverTheFractal it doesn’t mention Truman on the stone relief, it’s pretty easy to forget the specific nature of Lilli’s relationship with Truman when they refer to another one of Lili’s relatives in the organisation.
All they’d have to do is change the dialogue to make the line say “Lili’s Grand-uncle and Truman’a Uncle” to avoid this
@@liampoulton-king7479 sorry, I don't think so at all. If you got confused that's valid I guess I know I get mixed up a lot but in the first game, the vr game, and the start of this game they mention Truman as Lilis dad and in this they mention Bob as her great uncle a few times.
I had to do a double take when you said "Elijah Wood, the same performer who is one of the main characters in Broken Age" because I have never ever heard that as a description for him. I am sure he appreciates being credited for something other than Froddo
6:00: Oh my god, that's such a good conversation. Adding Larry the Brain to the lobby and having him give hints about where you're supposed to go to find brains... _chef's kiss_
21:30: It's a little disappointing that they don't let you throw the ball twice before resetting (like in real bowling).
1:40: Dunno if anyone's going to get this reference, but that very specific metaphor makes me think of Skitter.
4:25: As good a justification for littering shops around the hub as any.
11:50: I love that line. That attitude. It's very...cynical, but not quite wrong?
18:10: I like when people are so honest about their dishonesty.
19:19: Creative! Not smart, but I suppose he can't afford smart on a budget of zero dollars plus secrecy.
20:45: It's just very good at sterilizing things.
25:10: The tenth frame is like the ninth inning. (My apologies if you don't know baseball lingo either, that's about as deep as mine goes.)
33:00: (nobody tell Dan that the stuff is all over his bowling ball)
12:05 "Greetings, fellow human! Are we enjoying having skin today?"
@@gyrrakavian She Eve has red hair. (Not that their character designs or personalities have any other similarities.)
42:20 Just realized what the music for bowling!Ford's mindscape reminds me of, the soundtrack for _Baby's Day Out._
I got that reference! Assuming it's a reference to the webseries Worm that is.
"this date's a real turkey" is a very good bowling pun (turkey as a bowling term means three consecutive strikes)
Ah yes, Elijah Woods, known for such things as the (sadly) barely successful Broken Age, and nothing else of any significant cultural value.
I also hear that he is quite the gamer.
I think he had a bit role in a middle earth movie. Probably nothing too big though.
He's only known for small roles, it seems.
I wouldn't say "nothing else of any significant cultural value." He was one of the video game kids in the '80s café in Back to the Future Part II!
I almost wanted to make a serious comment here, silly me.
@@datenegassie A true gamer he is.
You'll need a special gadget made by Otto to reach those high spots in the Atrium.
The weird thing is that he tries the same trick every episode! You would think that he'd realize that it won't work.
Pretty sure Dan isn't looking for tips in the comments. I've completed the game and while I do enjoy watching him play and his comments on it, I am occasionally talking back to the screen over things I know that will solve his conundrums. "Just go to and talk to and you'll be able to do what you're trying to do...."
@@TDawgBR That is true, I did comment before I saw that he figured out that he needs a special ability to get there. I was trying to save a bit of time.
Looking at that stone mural, that red curtain really isn't that subtle.
Marble platforming? Sounds like MADNESS. Straight from Atari in the 80s
At least the next episode will have Dan finally going to Otto's lab. I wonder if he'll have that "oh" moment I did after struggling to get certain collectables for so long.
I hope that he finally explores the rest of the Quarry and picks up the other optional missions too.
There's supposed to be a short dialog between Ford and Lucy coming from the photo booth at 25:17, but I think rolling over there on the ball causes the "Keep the ball in the lanes" announcement to cut it off and you don't hear it
When I woke up I didn't think the term "Precision Bowling Ball Platform" would be going through my head
Nor did I think "bad ideas here I come" was a think I'd hear anyone ever shout.
-ok that's a more clever solution, glad they didn't fire Chekov's brain
-oh yeah, never occurred to me that her name was Camilla either...
-Coach we spend the entire first game discussing why that was bad idea
I think in solving his daddy issues, we might have also made Coach less afraid of gore...
Eljiah Woods.
Known for Broken Age and...
What was it again...
Eeehhh who cares it was provably some minor thing decades ago. Nothing to keep to memory.
I mean, the first film _is_ two decades old now. So, yeah, decades ago.
Cloud: Is it "mah-ko" or "may-ko"?
Soldier Guard: Does it really matter?
Cloud: YES IT MATTERS!
Love the 4th wall saying its been 3 days when it took a long time to make the 2 XD
Rewatching and just noticed that the music in the bowling alley ( 20:43 ) is the same as the song Coach was singing in Rhombus of Ruin!
Everybody always skips the O instead of falling in. Falling in, just that one time, is highly recommended :P
And please go to Otto next. You'll be rewarded well for the journey!
I know you already have a lineup of games but you should definitely play the Artful Escape. Its a music centric game and I know those are your jam.
26:10 Know what's missing from that list? Coffee! Like the one Carrie should be getting for all her hard work right now
I think that in solving his daddy issues in the first game, we made Coach less afraid of gore...
A turkey is 3 strikes in a row in bowling.
The more you know.
Thats the thing. I WANT Dan to take his time and explore everything. I am less concerned with story pacing as i am with Dans reactions to quests and dialogue. At the same time I would also enjoy MORE of this per day and such.
Every intro is Dan improvising on the spot, isn’t it?
My understanding of Dan's recording system is that he records multiple episodes at once, stopping every now and then to give an outro. He then proceeds to say the intro to the next episode, and continues. So yes, they are entirely or mostly improvised.
18:35 Definitely a time, hollis should allow raz to change another psychic's mind.
So I know that Milla is supposed to be from Brazil (right? I don't have this wrong?), and they speak Portuguese there, not Spanish, but it had always bothered me about the pronnounciation thing cus pronouncing LL that way when speaking spanish is an accent thing that a lot of English speakers seem to think is the main way. So having them kinda add this little story about it turns it from something that bugged me to something that feels so true to my own experience in English speaking countries I kinda love it.
Also, while I'm being the "umm actually" nerd everyone hates: "Tchao" is actually spelled without the T and is something that is only really said in Argentina (and maybe Bolivia?). It is also said in Italy as "ciao", but there it means "hello" instead of "goodbye".
Yeah, English can get a little weird with spanish pronounciation, so I also love what they did with Milla's name :D
But anyways, just wanted to tell you that tchao is in portuguese, not spanish, so that's why the "T" is in there
And chau (that's the actual way to spell it in spanish) has a widespred use all over spanish speaking countries, although it is mostly an informal way of saying goodbye, so I don't advise using it in professional settings
Oh, and just saying, "ciao" in Italy is both hello and goodbye too
Well, thank you for coming to my TedTalk, and have a nice day ❤
Edit: the Grammar-Bomb™ has been deployed, say hasta la vista to the error of my ways for a day longer, compadre
@@radioactivepower600nanaspersec Oh nice, I knew about the italian one, but not the portuguese one (I did some in high school but you know how it goes). Thanks for the tip! Nice Ted Talk
@@Sey318 Yeah, I understand, had 2 years of french and still can't speak it at all, but at least I know spanish snd english, so there's that
Thank you, you're such a lovely fella ♥
I was going to say that 3 strikes is a turkey in bowling, but the other comments got that covered. I was also going to comment about Sasha's conversation still being audible but you addressed that too, soooo...
Algorithm boost!
I _knew_ Nick's VA sounded familiar.
12:05 "Greetings, fellow human! Are we enjoying having skin today?"
Anyone else notice that the only one of the Psychic Six in shadow is Otto?
Wait that mural of the original six or whatever has one covered up on the furthest left hand side with a curtain. I think that maligulas one under it.
No. That is Lucrecia... They revealed her existence in one of the previous episodes.
@@hermes2002000 I mean....
I wish these episodes were longer
PlayFrame’s voice is literally so relaxing to me, his daily videos keep me calm.
A game of bowling is divided into rounds called "frames." There are ten of them.
A "turkey" is when a bowler hits three strikes in a row (notice the three frames that are circled on Ford's line of the score card).
5:13 I knew he sounded like Shay!
COSUIN! LET'S GO BOWLING!!!
And afterwards we'll go get drunk and go a rock-n-rolling!
Cousin, it's your cousin! Let's get a Bleeder Burger, and wash away the taste of all that carnage, crime and murder.
Another nice thing I noticed about P2, is that Raz always asks for consent before entering someone's mind. (The only exception so far being Loboto in the introduction.) I don't think he did it back in P1.
Raz makes the best faces in this game xD
I also like Hollis. She fits in/bounces off well with mila , Sasha and the rest.
Ottos statue is in the shadows... foreshadowing 👀
This is my favorite Ford level (followed by mailroom, then barber).
Incidentally, if you like precision platformer marble games, Venineth is quite good, and freakin' gorgeous.
1:45 "Cassie" and a "Swarm of bees". Why does that sound familiar?
09:37 Funnily enough, I would have pronounced her full name Ca-me-yah
A "Turkey" is three strikes in a row.
I was just waiting for him o make a marble game reference!
Omg razs lil boots
Hey Dan just so you know you should really do a lot of exploration of he Quarry
I'm interested in Lucy's headwear is it a hijab or just a scarf maybe it's a cultural thing from Eastern Europe? She's always wearing it
If we assume it's really well thought out, it's hard to say. Raz's family is described with the G-slur in the first game, and they fit Romani stereotypes, but I'm not sure whether or to what degree this has been retconned to be more culturally sensitive. If the are still intended to be Romani, then Romani culture might be the source of her headscarf. However, Romani communities live disbursed over a huge geographical area, so it's possible that it's influenced by Grulovian culture, which introduces its own problems. Grulovia is fictional, so we have to make assumptions about where it is. I'm assuming it's intended to be around the Romania/Ukraine/Belarus area of Eastern Europe, in which case the headscarf may come from Eastern European customs that ultimately come from a combination of practical rural clothing and Orthodox Christianity. It's unlikely, given how joke-Slavic the word Gzar is, but Grulovia could alternatively be in the Kazakhstan area of North-West Asia, in which case Muslim and/or Turkic influences are also possible.
The better answer, in my opinion, is that they really didn't think too hard about it and she's intended to look Eastern European so they dressed her up like a Russian grandma/babushka. Then, through not knowing the finer details of Easter European headscarf customs and/or wanting her to have visual consistency (my money is on both) they had her dress similarly as a young woman.
42:15 I don't think MENTAL acrobatics count Dan...
Is.....is Sasha wearing a VOTOMS head as a helmet?
I don't remember this episode of Osmosis Jones
Nunya is kinda related to Quico
Turkey = 3 strikes
its funny how theirs little covids in the backround
Boll
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