Josef Witt-Doerring | Psychiatry is Not What You Think | Psychology Is Podcast 61
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- Опубликовано: 22 июл 2024
- Dr. Josef (@taperclinic) shares surprising truths he's uncovered while working in the field of psychiatry.
00:00 Josef’s awakening
08:00 Drinking the kool-aid
10:23 The psychology of psychiatrists
15:00 FDA approval
19:50 Drugging inmates
24:10 Adverse effects of psychiatric drugs
33:55 Does anyone need ‘meds’?
38:55 Chemical support
43:20 Contributing factors
46:07 Support and pushback
49:43 Josef and his wife
51:56 The white coat effect
54:20 How to taper off of drugs
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Thanks for watching! For more on this topic, visit our “Examining Psychiatry” playlist. ruclips.net/p/PL1CztxANXYAcWwPQpGk8tB6IECVek32j4&si=UCSnrIyuJzGAWgQe
I wouldnt say cannabis is a simple way to reduce stress . Its pretty well known now that the THC level in the cannibis smoked nowdays is 50% stronger than in the 60's-70's and can actually cause schizophrenia to develop.....paranoia, fear, delusions and disorganization of thoughts.
Dr Josef saved my life. I had a feeling these meds I was on were doing more damage than good. I've never felt better. I'm more stable and focused now than ever before. He's the best. ❤
Amazing!
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@@psychologyis Mental health is the practice of agapeic love, instead of selfishness!
So what happened? You quit taking them or they were modified? Please tell
@@stevekaylor5606the hell!
UNSPEAKABLE SUFFERING.CAUSED BY PSYCHIATRISTS. THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR MORE THAN 65 YEARS!
BECAUSE THEY NEEDED MONEY. WITH NO CONCERN FOR THE HEALTH AND WELFARE OF PATIENTS!
Doctor's government and mafia all work together 😅
How many people have been helped?
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I was under the care of Josef’s wife, Marissa, who is also a psychiatrist who practices in the same area as Josef. If not for her intervention, I don’t know if I’d still be around. I personally cannot endorse the Witt -Doerring team more highly. We need more MDs like them!!! A truly awesome pair!
One good doctor. He must be built like an Olympian, because he is definitely swimming against the current. Save as many as you can, Doc. God Bless . Take care
LOOK UP "WHISTLEBLOWER." DR.JOSEF IS A WHISTLEBLOWER. THANK GOD THESE PEOPLE ARE FINALLY BEING EXPOSED FOR THE DESTROYERS THAT THEY ARE. MANY, MANY PEOPLE ARE NOW DEAD BECAUSE OF THEM. TRUTH!!!!!!
HE SHOULD HAVE A FULL SECURITY DETAIL!
One of the few who speaks about PSSD and terrible health damage caused by medicines.
Best wishes.
You guys pointed out exactly what I've been trying to tell people for a while - it's not (only) the adverse effect that should worry us, but the effects in themselves.
such an important point. thank you for spreading it.
@@psychologyis People on psychiatric drugs have to rev themselves up - to be able to say something!
As Dr. Josef said, and Nick highlighted: many of the adverse effects *are* the main effects. I would even say that there are no 'side effects' of these drugs. There are only effects.
Joanna Moncrieff has said it well. To paraphrase her, this is what an ethical psychiatrist should tell their patients: these drugs do not target diseases, they simply alter your consciousness in certain ways. If all the effects, taken together, are worth it to you right now, try taking the drug for a while. If the balance shifts, we can reconsider. But this is no cure for your mental suffering.
Dr. Josef is my hero. He’s one of the only psychiatrists I’d ever trust.
Yes, and Dr. Breggin is amazing, as well.
Wonderful conversation. Thank you both for your courageous work.
My daughter was on an SSRI for eight years and the nurse practitioner told me we could taper off in a month. They don’t know what they’re doing.
Tapering isn’t necessary for everyone though. There will be withdrawal symptoms only if you believe there will. It truly is a “mind over matter” situation.
@@katieandnick4113 oh okay, put your hand on a burner on the stove and tell me about what happens. I can't believe anyone here liked your comment.
@@katieandnick4113 that really sounds like nonsense what you‘re saying. You reckon people get withdrawal from opiates too only because they believe in it?
Ha,safe and effective for 3 months! I was left on them indefinitely by my GP. Came off after 5 years of my own volition and failed. Took me over 31 years and years of failed tapers and hell to get off. I can safely say these drugs have ruined my life after losing my job,years of lost wages and can't work because I'm still in protracted withdrawal. I'm the result of what leaving people on these drugs long term looks like. Misery and pain. The drug lobotomy and chemical castration. They should all be in jail for medical negligence.
NO QUESTION! BEYOND APPALLING AND DESPICABLE!
Too much power in the hands of the arrogant and indifferent.
Please if you can address the issue with psychiatric drugs effect on the gut microbiome and it's implications. There is enough literature already. Thank you very much for the work you are doing
Yes that would be interesting.
Dr. Josef is so kind and thoughtful, just like Nick. You two are modeling how to challenge the psychiatric orthodoxy from a spirit not of blame and bitterness, but one of humanity and compassion. Really enjoyed this conversation! I hope he comes back for Round 2 some day.
I worked in Hospital Security.
Was directed to hold patients down while clinical staff injected meda into people who didn't want them.
I feel much h shame looking back.
Wish I never did this.
Peace
@@bah667 BARBARIC SADISTS. THEY ARE NARCISSISTIC ABUSERS.
I still have nightmares
He means "injected meds" to sedate and incapacitate patients Against Their Will!
@@sharynmainin a psych hospital, some patients who refuse meds are a DANGER TO SELVES OR OTHERS and without enforced meds would continue to be a DTO or DTS. That is why the courts sent them there for treatment.
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the problem we have here in Australia we have a mental health system forcing patients to take there medication so doctors here like Dr Josef are few and far between. To add to our problem we have alot of misinformation in our media here who think people who dont take there medication are a danger to other people in there communities which in my opinion is often untrue and really makes all us people who want to come off these drugs feel totally alone and not worth helping this needs to change.
The problem you are describing is global and identical almost everywhere on earth (I've been living in 3 different countries and speak 4 languages).
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That's America too. All a "friend" has to do to get me locked up is call the police and tell them I have a history of mental illness and im off my meds and dangerous to others or myself. Legally these are magical words that has ensured I have less rights and less worth than someone who has no history of mental illness.
I'm in Australia and it's shocking the medical institution on a whole is pathetic and dangerous.
He mentioned Public Citizen suing the drug company. Thank god for Ralph Nader who founded Public Citizen in 1971.
As in case of our son I think a lot of high functioning Asperger's is being mistakenly medicated. Our son is now off all medication
After 12 years i came off,i knew i was dying hallucinating .The worse year of my life coming off them.I feel heartbroken drs did this to me,i trusted them,now i will never open up'to pyhc drs again.still traumatized by them
Hi. How you go down from drugs. I am 12 years on it. I would like to go down. 😢
@@anabanana7902 hyperbolic tapering. very slowly. very gradually. Some people start with a 10% reduction for e.g. 4 weeks, monitor effects, and then if manageable, drop again from there another 10% of the current dose. As these reductions often need to involve pill chopping or weighing etc, can you speak to a pharmacist as some are able to do this for you or convert tablets to liquid form to make it more manageable. This is not medical advise. this is just what i have gleaned from lay persons forums.
Dr. Josef is so brave and compassionate. I am working with him now. He is amazing. His level of patience and care is astounding. I have a brain injury so I am not able to be as articulate as I wish but I cannot recommend him enough. He is doing groundbreaking work. Because of him people are going to come around and see the atrocities being committed and hopefully more people can be saved or not have to go through this nightmare at all.
I do wish that more people could receive the wisdoms and insights from you both. This is such an important conversation. As a counsellor, I witness the direct side effects all the time. Thank you for doing what you do.
I think the SSRI inventors said “Symptoms show up AFTER three months, so let’s stop studying right there and also let just not develop an instrument to collect data on withdrawal symptoms and just label all of that returning original depression.”
Schizophrenic symptoms improve when you remove gluten & processed sugar from your diet. And 3 rounds of DBT also helped me. They don't want you to figure out how to manage your symptoms cuz there's no money in food being our medicine.
Nice to hear the shout-out to Robert Whitaker, author of the very important book "Anatomy of an Epidemic" and founder of the excellent website Mad in America.
Our belief in authority is a major human flaw. I've learned a lot on the topic from Larkin Rose on RUclips. We have to evolve out of these old mindsets as a species. On the other hand, we should all get ahold of a white coat and put up some framed diploma's behind us and start making video's about the harm of psych drugs. After all, we, the harmed, are the authorities on neurological injury.
This is one of the most important statements in the world. Thank you.
You see it with how the masses believe everything our leaders tell them.
Climate change ClotShots.
They are to naive.
@jannietime1 ❤ 100% agree with you. Josef Witt-Doerring is somebody who is clearly aware of the arrogant ignorance of his own profession and the harm it does. I wonder why he cloaks himself (white coat) and frames himself (diplomas) in the paraphenalia asociated with stereotypical medical authority and expertise. For those of us who have come to know the true ignorance and harmful arrogance of this paradigm, those trappings of 'credibility' speak of something entirely other.
I respectfully wouldn't say the drugs are "safe and effective for three months and then not safe and effective after that period". I would say that for many people, these drugs are not safe and effective from the get-go - from first dose - and sometimes very dramatically so.
Dr.Josef is a real one. Thank you guys for what you are doing
Natural medicine, using organic essential oils, are so healing on so many levels.
Yes, and holistic body/mind therapeutic approaches
Test subjects. One must consider either people are extremely stupid or they’re malevolent. Examining world affairs indicates small number of people in power who are inherently evil. If greed and power are not your drug of choice, there’s no way for you to understand that statement.
Can’t wait to see your wonderful channel grow 🎉
My life was DESTROYED by them. Neurotoxicity. Tolerance-withdrawal vicious circuit. Akathisia-suicidiality. Social stigma. Life gone, finished, anihilated.
so sorry they did this to you. You are incredible to have survived all this and I hope it gets better for you. I hope the worst of it is over for you.
I wish there was more interviews on addiction treatment centers and what they are doing to addicts regarding benzos and other areas. I was at Gateway and they were ripping people off of medication.
What about nutritional deficiencies causing mental (as well as physical) problems?
Doctors aren't nutritionists / chefs / motivational coaches.
They can only practice in the clinical setting, there's so much overlap in disciplines that it takes to maintain a functioning human being beyond an appointment. Do we see the bigger issue here
The white coat seems ironic
He often goes without one. Maybe he spilled mustard on his shirt at lunch(?)
One thing I believe often is overlooked is how lack of nutrients (vitamins, minerals etc) or imbalances (hormones etc) could highly contribute to psych problems. I had insomnia isues for years. At 15-16 years old I went to my doctor with the issue. He put me on the strongest sleep medicine straight away.. (which looking back were insane?!) Imovane. Later on I started taking a multivitamin also containing minerals etc, and.. Guess what?.. my insomnia went away🤔 my question is WHY does doctors prescribe possible lifechanging 'medicine' instead of checking for imbalances and their levels of important vitamins etc... If the body is not functioning properly, ofc symptoms (often mental!) will appear. And these symptoms would in many cases clear up, or create a better capacity to improve when being dealy with... It seems like these things are almost forbidden for doctors to check into. They only focus on medicine..
Also I had extreme anxiety some years later. Without talking to a psychologist, I was prescribed an ssri (cipralex). I totally changed personality, and looking back I believe I were MANIC. this lead to me putting myself in lifetreathening situations several times...
Great doctor! Great podcast! Best wishes from Germany, Franziska
Alcohol does help with the dopamine receptors and for some of us this is how we got happy before all of the pharmaceutical nonsense ! 😊
I would love to hear Dr. Witt-Doerring’s opinion on patients using ALCOHOL as a “legal substitute” for the entire class of drugs classed as benzodiazepines. A UK physician (indeed TWO) suggests that ALCOHOL is a good substitute for benzos in a system (in UK, both “private” and “public” -NHS doctors & hospitals) where each doctor agrees tapering and NOT abrupt cessation should take place (to avoid seizures, number one, quite apart from other problems). I have been astonished, thoigh I was told this respectfully with an “argument” that ALCOHOL ACTS ON “GABA” receptors. Yes, it does. However there is only anecdotal agreement (if any) on which benzos can be “substituted” for one another. (Typically of course ppl on short acting benzos are moved if at all to diazepam, one of the most long-acting and widely available, then tapered off that. Dr Josef Witt-Doerring has argued that it may be better to taper from whatever particular drug a patient is already on, rather than switching within a drug “class” and then tapering.
I wonder how often what's reported as feeling suicidal is due to akathisia. Several anti-psych meds I've been put on gave me akathisia with the very first dose.
@nosmartyr it is truly abhorent that this phenomenon goes so under-reported and not addressed. It is no secret or suprise that people who didn't succeed in killing themselves prior to taking psychotropics, suddeny go all the way within a short time frame of starting, stopping or changing meds. I call it prescripticide. NOt suicide.
It's pathetic how neglected and under prescribed the prisoners are in this country! So many addicts have horror stories about opiate detoxing in jail, so no wonder they're more apt to buy drugs on the inside, which keeps the dealers in big business!😮
Yes I have worked in the medical unit of a woman’s prison and it shocked me to see the suffering of these inmates.
They Cold turkeyed ms in jail off klonopin.
Great to listen to you both together. You raise interesting and important points.
Psychotherapy has no evidence supporting it and the harms are well known but under researched.
As a therapist alot of clients on alot of psychological meds and acknowledge they smoke alot of Marijuana. The psychiatrist still prescribed several psychiatric medications. People continue to have Anxiety, depression, and ptsd symptoms.
Thank-you for the very informative conversation on a very important topic
I know both of you guys.
You do both amazing work !
I know you'd love Dr. Wm. Glasser's books, especially "Reality Therapy."
Dr. Glasser was a psychiatrist who did not prescribe drugs. Spoiler alert. He successfully rehabilitated veterans who were given up on and drugged into a perpetual catatonic state. He closed the wing of the hospital that housed them. The vets lived independently in their own apartment!!!!!!!!!!!
Informative, insightful & liberating. Thank you!
Great conversation. Thank you both!
Dr. Josef, You know why this has been going on for so long! It's the money. Follow the money! You are a Hero, Dr. Josef! But you alresdy know that. You have Courage and Integrity, which the rest of them lack. They are COWARDS WHO ARE AFRAID OF LOSING THEIR INCOME! IT IS VERY SIMPLE!
very useful conversation thank you
Eye opening to say the least, thank you 🙏🏼
I practiced 20 years and questioned everything but medication works in some cases.
Some people could not manage without. What alternative does psychology propose.
I heard of analytical approach in psychosis. Is this an answer?
What else did they try tho? Really? Did they cut out foods thry love ? Processed sugar and gluten make schizo worse. Did they balance their gut flora? Did they put somatic movements and yoga into practice? Did they take the major mushrooms for health: turkeys tail, cordyceps,lions mane, reshi? If they do all that & journal daily & work on healing old trauma & still need meds to exist then you have an argument for "necessary medication" by until all that has been implemented there is no argument for meds; simply an argument absorb taking no action to improve their condition.
Great show!
Do they consider CPTSD?
They don't- not in the DSM
It is seen here in Switzerland that we just don't know medication interactions up from 3 different meds intake...Without doing any tests before serologically or by DNA all med-intake is questionable...🤑🤑🤑😣
What would you ever grasp from "serological" tests lol this makes no sense
THEY ALL KNOW. EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM. DON'T DOUBT THAT FOR A SECOND. THEY HAVE KNOWN THIS FOR MORE THAN 60 YEARS!
I was poisoned by pharmaceutical psychiatry for decades. Now i developed multiple chemical sensitivities and food intolerance. Life sucks and no one cares or can help. 😢
They ruined my life
... I bet psychiatry is EXACTLY what I think.
Psychiatry is about selling drugs. The most shittiest drugs, under malpractice.
Total faqs
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PS Funny the admittance of Power of a labcoat and diplomas. One suggestion for those interested in going into psychiatry:
Intern at a psychiatric ward as a Patient. That’s the True Philosophical, Spiritual, Mental Tutorial you need to endure and deserve the title of Doctor:
First, do no harm
I think "Bipolar Disorder" is too broad and over used. Whereas the word "bipolar" had mostly been used to describe transistors until the early 2000s. Pain medications were developed and prescribed in heroic quantities over about the same time line.
Hi does Dr Joseph do brain scanning ? Like Dr Amen as answers can be found from them
Dr Josef , typo
Hobbyist neurohackers could probably manage people on psyche meds better than psychiatrists ☠️.
Me as a neurohacker: "long term throttling the synaptic rate of monoamines will invariably compromise gene transcription at the chromosome. The paradigm of clockwork pill popping must transition into utilizing PRNs, or at least prescribing clockwork regimens with inition for short term use in cycles no longer than 4 months"
Also me as a neurohacker: "HDAC inhibitors can fix anything, and, MAOIs are the only safe long term option because they aren't stimulants/they don't directly throttle neurotransmitter action 👌"
based on my personal experience w psychiatrists, i generally assume all psychiatrists are psychopathic.
“Brain Energy”
by Dr Christopher Palmer
I feel that working privately is way better than practicing for MHC but Colleges can still control what you prescribe and how you prescribe.
How about Aripiprazol leading in some cases to gambling .
How Im the world as a single 65 yr old mom whom.my 41 yr old daughter w schizophrenia. How pleeease do I help her on this ... I used to be on other types drugs and got myself off them.all.after yrs of being Elvis presley I been free of them all.oer 15 yrs. I really need some help w my daughter ...where im.in central ks
What are your thoughts on genesite testing?
Rip, Thomas Szasz!
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I am All in for less meds and more other approaches. However, there are meds that help, a lot. In every specialty we have medication that causes lots of problems but are still important. So the evaluation of benefit vs. risk is important. What I completely dislike about this doctor is his hatred towards psychiatry and his one-sided view on everything psychiatry in general does. He might be referring to the American system or his experiences. But what he does is actually discrediting his own specialty … there isn’t even one video of his pointing out why psych is important and what can be done good. It’s all just abt „meds are all bad, period“.
This is so confusing. So you’re saying you went from incompetent doctors to more competent doctors. You went from committing malpractice on a daily basis to less offensive options now. Is this correct? None of these revelations (regarding psychiatric medication) are new. We have known all of this for quite some time.
10:40 "help people who were ADDICTED to these drugs". People aren't 'addicted' to these drugs, and to describe it this way is to fail to understand the pharmokinetics at play. Psychotropic drugs disrupt (with a sledgehammer for a nail effect) normal homeostatic neurology and chemistry. The body 'adapts' to the insult of these incoming chemical floods by shutting down receptors etc to try and mitigate the imbalances they cause. Eventually these adaptations become neural damage. When people seek to cease these medications, that damage is unmasked. And to make it even worse, because they are often misled by the prescribers sometimes it is the act of withdrawal itself that causes damage - beccause it is too sudden and rapid. This phenomenon should not be described as 'addiction'. Because that is false description of what occurs here. And under such misleading descriptions, are covered the true crimes of the psychiatry/psychology paradigms, which gets away with blaming the victim ('Addict') for what it has done to them.
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DR. PETER BREGGIN
He saved my life . Tough Doctor with a heart of GOLD.
How about psychiatry in Communist societies. Can anybody comment on it.
First time viewer. The Host needs to speed up his pace of talking. Would have left if not for the topic and Guest. Wont be back.
Just speed it up a little bit
You can change the playback speed in the settings on the video.
It always just seemed to me that attempting to act as a god instead of accepting being man only is so unnatural and dare I say evil
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