Surprising FINDS! Lady C VS Tina Brown
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- Опубликовано: 17 сен 2023
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Shauna x It is really interesting to contrast the two books The Diana Chronicles by Tina Brown and Diana In Private by Lady Colin Campbell!
In this video, I concentrate on the two occasions where it is alleged Diana betrayed Sarah Ferguson to the press in order to take heat off herself.
Both books have a different view of what really occurred!
I also discovered that Meghan and Harry might have got their Doco idea from Harry's Mum!
#diana #sarahferguson #meghanandharry 
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The thought of Meghan Markle studying Princess Diana’s modus operandi is very intriguing. It confirms my belief that MM does not have a single original idea in her head.
It confirms that Harry and the wife are both absolutely 💯 INSANE
If you read the later book by Lady C, she says that Di had asked her to write a book (the one you read) about her life in royal circle. However, Lady C did go to get opinions from people in the know. Diana did not like it; that is when Di went to Morton.
If just half of Lady Cs 2nd book (post Diana) is true Diana was the cross for the rf to bear.
Have you reviewed Angela Levin's book?
Allegedly, AL claims that Di, Ferg & Andrew hatched a plan to block Charles.
A was to be Regent.
Shocking.
As to your comment about Di would not do anything to hurt Bea & Eug - discount that.
She did not think of the consequences.
She lashed out.
Think on the people who believe her nastiness from MB or anu of the other crap she did or said.
The mess we've endured because of the reckless thoughtless barbs she torpedoed at people - mainly Charles but the Queen, too.
Think about two boys always hearing her side.
Wm who was Daddy's boy becoming adult - looking after her.
No decent mother should do that to her kid.
Or announce Harry is thick.
Well, get him psych help & tutors so at least he can be the smartest thicko not the dumbest & laziest thicko.
No.
She did not stop to think about how this or that action could damage or have very long term effects.
I hope if she were allowed to do it over again that it would be very different.
Yes I have! Fascinating
She also has been using Kim Kardashian’s playbook from the beginning.
The more time passes, the more you see Diana's worst qualities appear in Harry.
Regrettably true
I liked Diana, read her book and was sympathetic until Harry and his wife! Also, she was vengeful, and narcissistic. She made Charles give up his dog before they were married, which he did. Gave an interview on her sexual life on TV without considering the impact it would have on her sons. Apparently, according to the Headmaster of Elton it was traumatic at the time for William who had to leave School for a time because of harassment and embarrassment! She was hurt as a child but didn’t consider her kids feelings!
I have always thought Dianna never thought how it would be for her boys. A selfish, vindictive woman.
After reading the Andrew Morton book and seeing her interview with the BBC I lost all respect for her. She was a nasty self centred person. Hitting her father in the face, pushing her stepmother down the stairs and throwing herself down the stairs while pregnant was enough for me to see what a drama queen she was. She pandered to the media to gain sympathy. She made Charles look cold and unloving which he was not. He loved and nurtured his sons more than she ever could.
Yes so immature of Diana. Poor William
I adored Diana untill recently, her son and his wife have changed that. I associate her with them which is probably unfair but I can’t help that. These little stories make me realise how manipulated we were and add to the feeling that Diana was not quite what she presented to the public.
Yes & no. Remembering that Diana was only 18 when she joined the Royal family and had little in the way of protection or guidance from her husband and was not particularly close with her own family. Growing up within that pressure cooker of an environment I’m not surprised that she learned how to manipulate people and circumstances to manage her way through that marriage and beyond. Add to that there were forces that manipulated Diana into thinking she was being pursued & persecuted (look at the BBC & the Panorama interview) that would have added to her paranoia. I think it’s difficult to judge how we would act under similar circumstances.
Diana was 20 when she was engaged and married to Prince Charles. @@juliusmaloney
I think Diana's actions were somewhat justified considering her treatment as a very young naive bride who obviously was in love with her husband at the beginning.
I never liked Diana. I didn't feel she was genuine. I always thought she had a big ego and self-dramatising.
I was so disappointed when I realized how manipulative and downright nutty she could be... and I was sorry for young William who was forced into being his mother's confidant, even about her numerous lovers. When I read that William didn't want her coming to his soccer games because she would loudly make fun of his legs I was shocked she could be so cruel. She sounds A LOT like Harry!
Thank God Princess Catherine is nothing like Diana 😅
Maybe that's way William took so long to marry her! He wanted to make sure she wasn't going to be like that! I'm sure he loved his mother very much but could also see how she created drama. I laugh when I see stories of Catherine like, shocking!! She forgot to say hello to a ball boy or she didn't curtsey to Queen Camilla! That's the best they can do?! Haha
I've even seen people, probably sugars, saying she's boring. She's just not giving them enough to criticize that's all!!
Naja, Prinzessin Diana wurde von der Presse lange als Heilige dargestellt. Von Catherine haben wir auch nur das öffentliche Bild. Wie sie wirklich ist, wissen wir nicht.
@@praxisfurnaturheilkunde5394 that is true! I think the palace protected Harry all his life by giving him a very positive image & it wasn't until he left that we saw that he wasn't very nice. Even his own book shows he always was mean spirted by the way he treated people. I think it says a lot about someone by the way they treat people that serve them & animals. The Corgis did not like him. The palace has portrayed the future king & queen as flawless. No one is without flaws!
Catherine has turned out to be an absolute TREASURE to the royal family!
@@praxisfurnaturheilkunde5394Sugar trolls in different languages 😂😂😂
It appears that Diana was a mean girl. Not the icon everyone wants to believe she was.
She hated Sophie because she looked a bit like her and copied her style...lol!😅
You should read the.. real Diana by lady Colin
The Duchess by penny junor ..
The housekeepers dairy. Highgrowe.
I was not a fan nor a hater. But I find the martyr status undeserved and Harry’s grief is an overused card and I’m personally offended because I lost both my parents….no one has a monopoly on grief.
That is very profound and moving. Thank you 💗
I quite agree. Well said.
Why did all of Diana's lovers leave her? Just like Harry's. Hmmmm ..could it be that they recognized what a manipulative needy cruel person she was?
Lady C said she was working on the book with Diana until Diana started to attack Charles. Lady C said she refused to go with the narrative that Diana wanted to put forward. Who knows🤔
I feel Lady C is very Biased about Diana and Charles.
@@mariemartins8606I think Lady C saw through machinations on both sides. In particular, with Diana the narcissist tendencies probably set off alarm bells reminding Lady C of her mother.
Lady C wrote that when Diana "threw" herself down the stairs to commit unliving, was a lie Diana let out. Diana herself said that she would never hurt her baby. It was a slip down the stairs.
@@mariemartins8606 ..Lady C’s hubby was a friend of Diana’s father and on one of her podcasts, she said both men were the two most violently misogynistic in British Aristocracy…..there’s enough in that to understand that there’s NO WAY that Diana would not have grown up without developing strategies to cope with all of that .!!! It’s sad that it was such an awful upbringing, but she had access to psychiatric care during the marriage but clearly , she didn’t have the will to address it and change !!
Poor Charles walked right into it after being separated from his one true love .
Her bulimia resulted from a news article very early on where the press said she was slightly chubby and dressed a bit grannyish. !!! That was why I doubted her claim of Charles seeing Camilla as the reason for it , during that BBC interview.!!!!
The now King and Queen have endured SO much vitriolic abuse (some of it physical toward Camilla ) and yet they never once retaliated…….surely , as Harry has opened up this Pandora’s box ,it’s time to set the record straight……..it appears that one narc is exposing another narcs true self and he has too many of those Spencer genes in him to stop and THINK !!! 😏
It's nice to know that, at the end of the day, the Royal Household is just a normal family, just like the rest of us! 😳
I always think of the Queen as a grandmother having to deal with family as we all do.
I would say it’s a tad more complicated since each person isn’t surrounded by private secretaries communicating instead of the family members😆
While Diana had great regrets for the Bashir interview and the Morton book, Charles using the Dimbley & Penny Junor books to say how ‘crazy, nutter and pathetically needy’ Diana was.
After reading Spare and listening the Harry’s interviews, I am convinced that Harry got a lot of his information from Tina Brown’s “Diana Chronicle's.” It is almost word for word!
Diana always said the greatest trauma of her life was her parents' divorce. I have always believed that she married Charles because he was the only man in England who could never divorce her, or so she thought. Eventually her public behavior became so noticeable that the Queen ordered them to divorce. She later said that she greatly regretted the Bashir interview.
Charles gave an interview too.
@@vivienleigh2121 but he didn't trashed Diana and never discuss about Diana's multiple affairs with many married men.
The antics of Diana, Fergie & Meghan, all went rogue. Catherine seems to be in a league of her own, all class serving the monarchy. The dynamic with the other three was always competing with someone, always. What a tailspin Shauna, looking forward to the next instalment.
W&C were so smart to allow themselves to mature before they married. Even in the rugby podcast, Catherine left people wanting more, rather than outshine or put aside her blood Royal Princess and Prince. Compare that to Markle at invictus. Absurd.
Diana, Fergie and Meghan never fit in the Royal Family and not one of them was Royal material. On the other hand Catherine and Sophie were born to be Royals!
Let's hope Kate is not another phony playing a good masking game. Sorry I'm.quire cynical.
And for all her bad press, look how fantastic Camilla has been as a wife and now Charles’ queen. She was the woman he needed all along.
She wanted a few years to marry so that p makes far more better than the wannabe!@@UrbanArtCentral
I never trust women with the goody goody Diana look. That being said Diana was still young and it’s possible that she would have developed into a more balanced person while Fergie remains the same likeable silly girl. The Markles have no redeeming qualities.
I was always king Charles and Queen Camilla fan, I'm 64 years of age and remember all about the royal scandals and Diana's photo ups and throwing under the bus of them Prince Charles. I'm living a clip of a short about one of the news of Fergie and Diana's broads. It was pitifully
Diana wasn’t always so innocent. She’s given way too many passes. Kind of like someone else we know the Duchess of Sussex. 💩
I admire, still, Dianas public works, incredible style and bravery. But...I have always questioned her private dealings and manipulation of her marriage.
Enjoyed this video with my morning coffee here in Pennsylvania, USA. Harry has really tarnished his mother's image along with his wife. The RF has shown me that silence is golden. It's one of the best tactics for dealing with people with many narcissistic traits.
It's a unique approach comparing all these books & I'm here for it!
Diana tarnished her own image with her countless affairs and her lies about Charles and Camilla!
i'm inclined to agree that Diana did not tip off the papers regarding fergie (on either occasion) and find Lady C more plausible. at the same time, I don't believe that the Queen or PP would have been involved in the plots.. it would have been the 'men in suits' trying to protect the 'establishment'. to Dianas credit (and to be clear - i'm not one of her fans!), the idea of documentaries was a very good one and she would have been very very good at it. She was trained as a royal and knew to shine the spotlight on the areas of need, she had a level of humility and decorum. Sadly thats not harry and MM though. they took a good idea and wrecked it.
Yes I actually think Diana would have been fabulous at that!
It's a pity H&M didn't read the whole idea Diana had about doing documentaries.....focusing on a discreet 'humanitarian' campaign NOT on themselves and their poor hurt feelings!!
I can’t help but feel if Diana had been loved the way Harry was, she would not have been so wracked by insecurity and fears of abandonment.
@@judywright4241Agree. Charles was being pushed to marry and have children. He was in love with Camilla but married Diana because he needed 2 kids and a toy wife. I've heard that PP told Charles to marry Diana or move on and if Charles did marry and didn't love Diana after 5 years, he could go back to Camilla. That's not good fatherly advise. It was an open secret that Camilla's marriage to APB was in name only, as he was a notorious cheat, before and after marriage. Charles absolutely used Diana as a breeder, there is no way around that. Charles also used Camilla to "break Diana in," as we have seen the pictures of Camilla and Diana at the polo matches. Even William and Harry's births were scheduled around Charles polo matches. Like most young girls, I think that Diana hoped Charles would change after marriage and leave Camilla. Well, that never works. What a sad and deathly mess. I have no respect for either Charles or Camilla.
Poor Fergie! I believe Andrew and Fergie had an open marriage and would have been happy to stay together but for PP.
I haven’t read any of the Diana books. I think I’ll get Lady C’s because I love her style. Thank you Shauna for reviewing these books. I enjoy your show.😊
I’ve read both. Lady Cs is much better.
Diana isn't getting the blame for the worst side of Harry ... Harry himself, in response to why he's done what he's done and why he's more or less told the world all kinds of private information about his family said, "I am my mother's son."
I heard Lady C say that Diana wanted her to write the book but with Diana's own spin on things and when Lady C refused, Diana went to Andrew Morton instead. I recently read Andrew Morton's updated book and I can't say I was impressed...
Interesting 😊
No, I doubt that very much. It’s said Diana recognized that Lady C was hostile to her when she recognized that tact might get her inroads with Charles’ set. It never has but Lady C was said to be jealous of Diana from the beginning.
@@mmoretti I don’t hate lady C but that wouldn’t really shock me.
@@mmorettiLady C already ran in the circles.Charles did and was an early confident of Diana. Diana contradicted herself among interviews and her 1990s narrative disagreed with her own documented words from earlier years so there is no doubt she wanted to change the narrative.midstream.
@@mmoretti I'm no fan of ''Lady'' Campbell but I really don't think she was jealous of Diana, not least because of the age gap.
Diana had a great idea….a humanitarian idea. Meghan and Harry BUTCHERED this good idea. Diana had class.
I agree that Diana genuinely cared about the causes she championed, and give her props for that, but as a person, I think she was very flawed. She could absolutely be petty and vengeful and for all her finger wagging at Charles and Camilla, she seemed to have no issue breaking up a few marriages herself. I’m afraid William got most of her good qualities and Harold all of her worst ones.
@@graphiquejack and to add to that…. William got ALL THE GOOD MESSAGING from his parents (both)….and Harry got the less good, THE FLAWED messaging AS A SPARE that he didn’t matter. I guarantee you….THE WORD SPARE is NOT ALLOWED in the Wales home!
I love watching your videos. You remind me of a detective searching through clues to find the real story!!! It looks like you are having fun doing it as well. Thank you for making really great videos.
Thanks for watching!
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Daily Mail Royal reporter ( Dan Wooton) once said about a year ago that never ever the Royals expected the press to " hold" a story. When the journalists got a scoop, it was printed. They would give the Royals a heads up but never " asked" permission to print the story.
Interesting
No one forced Fergie to canoodle with another man with her young daughters there!
Fergie and Randy Andy… if only we’d get the real T on that relationship. It still baffles me after all this time.
Why it does not surprise me? In that woman there is not a cell of originality or authenticity, but I was surprised by H's hatred, revenge and resentment towards her own family.
I never like Diana, she always came across to me like as a funny manipulative narcissistic personality. In my eyes her only rediming qualty is prince Williams
I believe Lady C in any case, she proofed to tell the truth many, many times
That is interesting. It seems clear she went through all the available pics of Diana so she could copy them and connect with Harry’s feelings for Diana. It would be surprising if she didn’t read Diana’s biographies.
I have not read Lady C’s but have found her to be accurate. I’m definitely going to read her book.
I suspect MM read any and everything she could on the family....she's so scheming!
Thank goodness for the Middleton family. We owe the future of the monarchy to them.
Meghan read everything she could take over Diana's persona Yet Meghan could not do the research to be a princess
I'm so looking forward to these new deep dives! How fun and intriguing!!
They are (& Thank you)
I have always felt that Andrew and Fergie were a couple truly in love and that if not for the press intervening into their marriage they would possible have never split. Two peas in a pod. I recall thinking when the toe sucking incident came out, that perhaps the couple had an open marriage.... dont ask why, just an impression. And of course that could never have been seen to be acceptable to the palace nor could it be used as an excuse. I remember Andrew not seeming too phased by the news of his wife having her toes sucked lol. Another intriguing presentation, love it!
I think that being in the navy and away from home for a long time he would be well aware that wives sometimes stray when the husband's away, not only Sarah but lots of other wives do as well - always have done, not just military either but golf is definitely another group of solitary ''grass widows'' - and he was able to accept that Sarah needed company and if he wasn't there then she would look elsewhere. Not sure she had affairs but like many solitary ''grass widows'' she would look for a man to keep her company and provide amusement, I suspect he trusted her not to totally betray him and he knew her character - they'd known each other for a very long time - which is possibly also why they've stayed so close, basically married without the priest.
@@ABC1701A well said, I agree
They have a very ‘modern’ relationship. Perhaps if they were private citizens it could have worked. An open marriage, friends more than lovers, ride or die despite whatever terrible things they got up to. If they both weren’t so sketchy, and if he wasn’t such a sleazy, pompous oaf, I could almost admire it.
I agree that both accepted each others dalliances privately, As long as thry werent splashed on Front Page, then it was Palace intervention, Exactly the same with Diana, all was ignored until phone taps and her Interview. I believe both Ladies bloomed after being shunned from RF, but both had better relationships with exs. I read that Charles had, Tea ot Dinner with Diana when dropping the boys home. Neither could be tamed 😄.
@@Ronnie-lu7uo I envy those able to sustain some sort of civility and relationship after divorce as it is indeed far better for the children, if possible. I often think that the stories of Dianas 'craziness' are/were overexaggerated, as once divorced no new stories appeared (unless the Palace hid them) and she genuinely seemed far more 'level' after the divorce.
I don't know how on earth you keep all this stuff straight, but I appreciate it so much!. It saves so many of us from trying to understand it. Meghan never had an original thought in her head, so I doubt she came up with the Netflix idea on her own. But given her obsession with Diana, methinks therein lies the truth, such as it is...
Yes definitely a possibility!
I can’t remember who said it but it’s very true, ‘the female of the species is much deadlier than the male’.
So true 🤣
True, because females defend their kids no matter what … 😁
Men will kill their enemies, women will wound them, which is worse because you have to live with the pain. Of course these are sexist generalizations, but stereotypes exist because there’s a certain truth to them.
Rudyard Kipling, poem 'The female of the species is more deadly than the male.
Good Morning Shauna and one and all 🙋♀️🇬🇧
I liked Diana but she was no Angel. She used the press to her own advantage. I also believe if she had been firmer with Henry as a child he might be a different person to what he is today and not the spoilt jealous petulant brat that he is.
Agree therr is wisdom in what you say,howrver Diana w} as mofern but not normal fulltime Mum. The nanny in the nursery floor ruled the roost. Diana accused Charles of an affair with Tiggy leg burke?? The boys were exposed to a lot behind closed doors.,were introduced, spent time with J Hewitt, H Khan etc , would also contribute to personality quirks in adulthood. Agre about the spoiling, Harry always had dreadful tantrums.
If true, this makes it all the more astonishing that nothing appears to have been done to stop the ex royal grifters from behaving as they have and are.
Diana spoilt Harry and allowed him to get away with everything which has led to him being the way he is today.
lady c is always so plausible, just like her justification for announcing the late queen's death.
I bet you meghan read EVERY book on diana yes every book
Facinating stuff! I didnt like Diana but as far as I know the only person She ever tried to throw under a bus was Charles because not only did He divorce her, He was happy with the love of his life and She couldnt be with hers. Its a shame Harry has tarnished her saintly reputation (which she didnt really deserve) If Diana had done the documentarys they would have been a great success because for all her failings I do think She really was caring and compassionate. Cant wait to hear more!
Well Diana had bad taste in boyfriends. Her choices were always unsuitable.
After reading the Diana Chronicles and Harry’s Spare, I feel Harry used a lot of Tina Brown’s book in his recollections!
Yes! I can see why you say that!
Very interesting. Diana, to me, has always been a bit problematic. She definitely has some issues in common with her Spare son. But, I would have been interested in seeing a Diana documentary series. Someday, after the Harkles are exposed, I think their plan will be laid bare, like the toe sucking incident. Personally, I like Fergie. Sometimes the cart horse wins.
I agree with you, I have always liked Fergie. She has more class than ppl think. Sounds like the courtiers have a lot to answer for or whoever set Fergie up does. As far as I remember Fergie has never pushed back on the story or spoken negatively about the RF. I wish her well. 🌻💕
Harry war der nettere und unkompliziertere Sohn!
Wow. It all does seem to make sense when you put it that way. I’ll be thinking this over for a while now 😅 I was 10 when Diana and Charles were married, and was so dazzled by her charm and beauty. It was so hard for me to ever imagine her being shady or scheming this way. And poor Fergie! She didn’t deserve the embarrassment of those horrible photos. I remember it too well 😣
Diana wasn’t shady, Fergie was double dealing. She put out a lie attacking Diana accusing her of giving her verucas by loaning her a pair of shoes. Fergie actually sold lies to the tabloids, just as Fergie sold access to Andrew to Epstein & others. Fergie is the one who started bringing Oprah over to try and profit from the royals.
Yes I have made videos on all that and I agree :) These are different incidents though.
I have a memory of reading in one book from long ago about Diana and Fergie. It said that the courtiers were appalled by wild-eyed, loudmouthed Fergie and sniffed that "Diana is a Thoroughbred , Fergie is a cart horse". I remember agreeing at the time. LOL
In her attitude to life Fergie was much more upper class than Diana, the icon of the lower middle classes.
Yes poor old Fergie was very unpopular with the Coutiers!
The RF is corrupt. No doubt about it.
@@edronc2007 Look at the photos of the times of Sarah with Diana, somehow however Sarah was dressed her face lights up the photos - I can see why Diana was allegedly so jealous of her because Diana looks ''ok looking but nothing spectacular'' while Sarah somehow simply always lights up the photos. She still does it now when you see her on video, it isn't looks or dress sense but it IS something within her. She is full of life, she is genuinely caring - and not just for the cameras - and she doesn't really worry about what others think (luckily remembering some of the vile things said about her), she simply lights up the room, the image, the video and she does it - I think - without even realising it.
@@ABC1701A You hit the nail on the head - Diana was "caring" when the cameras were rolling but uncaring and nasty in private!
No one would be demonizing Diana if it was not for Harry and Megan.
Gosh , poor Sarah she was the sacrifice lamb, she deserves a lot of credit for walking tall after, raising 2 respectful daughters. There’s only one member of the RF who has ever thrown anyone under the bridge… he is the one to be shamed
I have a lot more sympathy for Fergie now too.
Poor Diana. I’m not a huge Diana-stan but I really wish she had lived in order to make her documentaries. It would have been nice to see Diana move on with her life and find happiness and fulfillment.
If it takes a village to raise a child then the whole royal family had a hand in Harry’s childhood, and adulthood, bad behavior and poor attitude. The royal family could take away Harry’s thunder by disowning him as a royal, he would still be family. IMO.
What an intriguing instalment and very good detective work. Thank you Shauna , can’t wait for the next one . 👏
Glad you enjoyed it
Recently, the “toe sucking” was said to be taken out of context. All of the children were present - Sophie’s kids and the financiers’s kids. It was a game for the kids.
Yes I understand however I was referring to the headlines of the day and the perception back then. Horrendous for Sarah Ferguson. Sarah was also topless which made matters much worse!
@@thevintageread Nothing unusual in that in Europe though, even in those days.
That would explain why Andrew never once abandoned Sarah, the divorce was forced on them by Philip - personally I think they could, and would, have got through it if things were allowed to be forgotten and Sarah kept out of the limelight for a suitable time - but his father (and I am normally a fan of the late Duke) interfered and it all went pear shaped.
There were a couple of the toe sulking photos. Fergie topless and Beatrice who was very young naked in front of the Texan guy. Very poor judgement on Fergies part, no matter how innocent it was. I would be filthy ( furious) if that was my child.😮
I recently read The Diana Chronicals and I completely agree that this book read like a "how to catch a prince" manual.
I love it when you compre different books!!! You are amazing!!! I would watch your videos al day! You are an ausum story teller!!!
Thank you so much! 😊💗
Diana said that Harry was an airhead like her, so William is her look a like and harry is her personality twin!
Let's be honest Diana tried to remove Charles right to the throne she said he's not capable of the top job.
You’re absolutely right that the shenanigans that Harry and his wife have pulled have drawn attention to princess Diana and her flaws. I never knew how manipulative and devious she could be. Harry should be ashamed that he actually has dragged down his mother.
At least he’s doing his father a solid. All of Harry and Meghan’s shenanigans elicit sympathy to Charles and Camilla, William and Catherine, and tarnish Diana beyond the grave. King Charles is probably more popular than he’s been since the Panarama interview, at least in the UK. America is still up Diana’s butt.
If hazbeen loves his mum so much he should see how he and his wife have done so much damage to his mum’s reputation.
I think Charles and William are going to definitely William take charge of the staff instead of the stuff taking charge of the family.
I remember that time quite well. I thought Diana and Fergie were thick as thieves prior to the toe sucking scandal. They were really unhappy and both wanted to leave their marriages. After the scandal Diana distanced herself from Fergie especially when she saw how Fergie no longer had ANY leverage because of the scandal.
Even though times have moved on, intrigues in the Royal Court are still going on.
They sure are!
You are our own Ms Marple.. Love how you connect the dots .
I love this idea of comparing different accounts of the same events! Keep up the good work! Love your channel! 👏👏👏
Thanks so much!!
The difference with Diana, is she was going to do it after her divorce. Plus she was going to do it, because she was a humanitarian, and genuinely wanted to help people, and organisations. And unlike her son, and his wife, anything she did, I have a feeling, would have been really successful.
Yes I agree!
Diana had to grow up and mature. She was never royal material as a young woman. After the divorce, she found her big girl nickers, she was able to be the wonderful person she was.
You have uncovered the ...rest of the story! Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you for your reviews because I probably won't read the books but I arrived to this conclusion : what energy, creativity, fight, revenge, betrayal are necessary in the high power. Just listening to you it is exhausting so I can't imagine living them ...
It has been reported that MM had a vision board about PHarry and the BRF
Interesting, but I don't know, aristocratic people/families are all about protecting their own images even against royalty. I wouldn't put it past Diana to have had a hand in that fiasco. After all she wanted the spotlight for her sons (in the end that benefits her right?) and she would most certainly choose to protect her own sons over PB and PE.
This is great stuff. Thank you! Diana was said to have a strong streak of empathy with others and also intuition. For several years, pre-divorce and post-divorce, Diana apparently believed the Palace was spying on her. She came to distrust the police protective service because she thought they were tools of the Palace, and thus kept refusing to use it for herself (she had to use it when her sons were with her, thank goodness). So she ended up dead because she was in the hands of the inept Dodi Fayed and his minions. Now I believe that Diana was correct - there were spies. But it turns out, the tabloids were hacking phones and spying like crazy, but that wasn't discovered until years after Diana died. I've never seen it laid out - were the tabs hacking her phones, or the phones of people around her? Were they doing some sneaky stuff she had a whiff of, but attributed to the wrong source? Just asking questions, in case you can track down some answers.
Yes in the time this was referring to, the method would have been to tap landline phones (not by the media) Later in the mobile phone era the media phone hacking began. The “official story” was eavesdropping by amateur radio hacks…My personal opinion was it was more deliberate than that!
I still can’t believe she turned down the royal personal protection officers. That and the seatbelts. 😞
Diana died before mobiles were a big thing, car phones but that was about all. That was the flaw with Harry's claim against the media, he claimed they were hacking a phone he didn't have, and Diana didn't either. They did hack into some of the landlines but that was Charles and not Diana who was the victim.
@@rachmunshine9474 She did have an experience protection officer though, the one hired by Mr Fayed. He asked them both to put on their seatbelts according to the investigation but Diana giggled and refused. Guessing Dodi did as well.
@@thevintageread I remember, though, that by the mid-90's Diana was using mobile phones. Tina Brown wrote in the Diana Chronicles, that Diana would have multiple mobiles in use. I don't know how secure those connections were back in the day. Just saying.
Wow...The plot thickens...Love it ❤❤
Glad you like it!
This was so much fun thank you Shauna!
So glad!
Love this video popped up on my feed- I will say - after Harry’s book and editors and reporters “came out of the woodwork” to tell their stories of Diana’s manipulation of the press - none of us ever knew
Hi & Thank you for this one! Halfway thru it started reminding me of Ancient Rome, with the rise & fall and all the plotting and knives out. However, I’ve just woken up & have had only 1 sip of coffee, so the brain fog is still rather heavy. Great content as usual. Thanks again!
Thanks I appreciate that! (Coffee is vital 😅)
Thank you. Viewing this again in response to your suggestion today responding to post from here today. Chef's kiss for all you do. Sincerely.
Well Lady C’s book was out when Diana was alive so Lady C would have had to prove everything she said. So the closest she could come was to blame the Palace. I think she has subsequently said Diana threw Fergie under the bus to stop the chatter on Squidgygate.
Yes she changed to that in the Royal Marriages book and she explained why on her channel.
All this intrigue is doing my head in! Can't wait for the next instalment.
It is fascinating!
When does someone get old enough to see the faults are theirs what age? Stop blaming your parents for the life you lead as an adult.
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I think people put far to much judgement onto Diana's behaviour, as though it was all completely conscious and calculated. Diana was a deeply damaged woman with enough childhood trauma in her background for a dozen people. She had some lovely characteristics, but also some rather dark ones - and like every single parent in the world, no matter how good they think they are -- passed along some of her dysfunction to her boys. Stir in Harry's own personality and background and we have what we have now. Its good to understand - but we don't need to demonize Diana for it. Just recognize this stuff is complex. I love the way you are bringing these elements in to do just that.
Yes always more to a story!
It’s like the family is a mafia…with very good PR….
Oh those Fergie pics. I worked in magazines back then here in Australia. That was craziest thing anyone had published about the Royals.
I bet it was! What a scoop 🤗
I remember all the fuss about Will Carling's marriage and the way Diana distanced herself from it all. Even at the time she was known not to be the "Angel" she portrayed herself to be. Nobody would wish her fate upon her but her passing has allowed the canvas to be over painted.
😂good morning ma'am...im really sorry for the photos...I had hunger pains 😂lordy the Queen must have been equally as embarrassed as Fergie 😂...I still cannot wrap my head around toe sucking 😂😂😂. I still remember my mum roaring with laughter when that newspaper came out 😂😂😂
It was a bit of a hoot! 😂🤣
Are you not aware that Diana helped Moreton with his book? More like Meghan don’t upu think?
Yes I said that in the vid I said the book she was working on with Andrew Morton.
Very interesting…😂 Lady C regularly makes me feel uncomfortable with some of her statements concerning the Royal Family….Lady C obviously has a lot to loose, as sometimes she says things that do not add up…..I have a very strong sense that she will say anything to cover her back……At the same time she declares her undying commitment to the truth, I am unable to always believe her….OMGosh you are featured on Andrew Gold in relation to Russel Brand…😮 I do like your assessments, you obviously gather as much information as you can, I enjoy listening to you….😊
Yes! I love Andrew Gold...so that was a thrill :)
@@thevintageread Yes it was….😁
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I love listening to your stories just before my bed time-- Adult bedtime stories ;)
Perfect!
Having just started on Andrew Morton’s “Diana”, I can pick out all of Meghan’s tricks by reading the transcript of the interviews. She has taken every slight Diana felt and built it up by adding the “r” claim to top it off. Diana is disappointing in her delusional claims that she was never shown the ropes, but realize that she was extremely spoiled, picked on by her sister Sarah (Meghan’s Catherine) and delusional on how being a princess would be in reality. However, if Meghan followed the book, she would have known this!
Suzzeled is my new favourite word.
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Fantastic video Shauna! I'm not inclined to believe that this version of the RF (as a Machinery) is immune from engineering, tweaking, nudging opinion and media much like all Monarchies before them. Intrigue and Mystery are their MO throughout ages and Ages of scandal, "politicking" and self-preservation. The removal of oddities from The Royal Circle is reasonably well documented - though even then only half a story can ever be gleaned even centuries later. There is a ruthlessness in this Machinery that we are all relied upon to be naive about. Many will disagree with me but show me a Royal Family from any age that didn't remove/hide/murder/condemn/cover up for someone in their midst who was behaving badly for whatever reason?
Always hidden depths to most things! 😉
Ripper of a suggestion.😉
Good for you! I've always wondered about their differing views! Thank you!
"Melodrama-cito". 😂
Interesting about the documentary similarities. I heard Diana wanted to move to Malibu, as well. Just as the disgusting duo is rumored to be doing.
Yes interesting about Malibu isn't it!
Diana would have hated it there, I think.
More and more intriguing ! The absence of security request for Sarah and her daughters is very unsettling. Would security have avoided such a scandal from happening ? Did someone really tip off paparazzi, considering the consequences they would have had to face if something bad had happened to Eugenie and Beatrice ? Hard to say for sure.
Also, I have to say I hate invasion of privacy, be it from a neighbour or a paparazzi but, at the time, didn't paparazzi situations already plague the royals and If so, doesn't Sarah and her "Beau" look extremely unwise to partly undress and have very intimate moments outside of the protection of the house ? All I know is that although my friends and I are not "royals" and have no paparazzi following, none of us would ever have intimate moments outdoors. Maybe I'm not reading this correctly ?
The whole thing reeks of a setup!
My question is, where is all this plotting now? If the palace did all these things surely they’ve had enough ammunition to take down Meghan.
Don’t get me wrong I think the palace did it, they just seem to have gone soft.
Maybe! Different culture now I think!
I think the palace hasn’t necessarily gone soft but have changed their strategy. Now it’s a more slow painful downfall
@@dv7361I believe it's wise to stay silent, then give them enough rope to hang themselves. It seems to be happening as they sully everything they touch & are immensely unpopular currently. It's just like parenting, when you don't need to punish your child, just let them deal with the naturally occurring consequences of their actions.
Shaina I do enjoy your channel which takes a very different view of your subject matter by comparing and contrasting different reports of events. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thank you so much! 💗
I’m afraid I can totally see Diana doing that. She was a lot shadier than her image portrayed her as. If she and Fergie were no longer friends, she probably had no trouble selling her down the river. Diana could definitely be petty and vengeful, and unfortunately Harry definitely takes after his mom.
Shauna, you made Lady C's broadcast today where she expands upon this subject. It's 11-24 minute mark if you want to have a listen.
Also did you not see Markle’s childhood picture all over the net with Lady Cs book on the shelf.
Yes however I think there may have been a more recent reading of Tina Brown’s book.
I don’t believe Campbell. Why would the Palace be writing a letter to Campbell who had written terrible things about the queen’s mother? Campbell is no insider w the RF. Diana had become manipulative & calculating but look what she had been dealing with since her bad choice of marrying a man a decade older, w nothing in common except the love of wealth & power?
Enjoyed this thank you 😊
Glad you enjoyed it!