Advice from the Top 1% of Software EngineerㅣExaltitude Jean Lee

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  • What are the ways to become a highly valuable person? We had the privilege of interviewing the remarkable Jean Lee, an early engineering member of WhatsApp with over 17 years of invaluable experience in the tech industry. Dive into the interview to uncover the wealth of insights she generously shares, showcasing not only her exceptional skills but also her profound understanding of the industry. Discover the secrets of excelling at work and making a lasting personal impact while collaborating with top teams!
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  • @entreprenuership_opportunities
    @entreprenuership_opportunities  6 месяцев назад +4

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    • @tongobong1
      @tongobong1 5 месяцев назад +1

      Likability and credibility is terrible advice for men. Men should look professional and serious.

    • @hoof-hearted-2024
      @hoof-hearted-2024 5 месяцев назад

      Marry me 🥰

    • @tongobong1
      @tongobong1 5 месяцев назад

      @@hoof-hearted-2024 who me?

  • @i_zoru
    @i_zoru 6 месяцев назад +704

    "Blindly following trends is a recipe for failure because you are always one step behind"
    this is the most advice some new people in SE need to hear

    • @rwmusic8126
      @rwmusic8126 6 месяцев назад +12

      this is currently happening where I work. It's exhausting to keep up with the trending tech and gives no good results.

    • @i_zoru
      @i_zoru 6 месяцев назад +6

      well im the opposite, but i still understand how you feel because my friends experienced it too
      Hype-Driven Development are like this, make you keep up to date, but with the cost of your project gone to shit, problem arises when trending tech u use isn't fitting the project requirement

    • @sancho7198
      @sancho7198 6 месяцев назад +1

      true

    • @TheNextBestGamers
      @TheNextBestGamers 6 месяцев назад +1

      That makes 0 sense. She wants people that can learn new things without trying out new things. Trying new programming languages and frameworks is the best way for you to learn new concepts and adopt new skills. The worst you can do is code in same language your whole life and never adopt to trends/market.

    • @i_zoru
      @i_zoru 6 месяцев назад +18

      @@TheNextBestGamers learn new things and blindly following trend is a 2 different thing, this 'new things' doen't have to be the trending one, but the useful one, the one that might fit best to current and future situation,
      and one more thing,
      trends and market sometimes can be different, a lot of boot camp says 'B' is the trending langauage, while most company still uses 'A' or need people that have experience with 'A'

  • @3am.productions948
    @3am.productions948 6 месяцев назад +188

    1. " Blindly Following Trends Is Receipe for Failure because you always step behind "
    2. "Prioritize the things "
    3. " Clearly define what exaclty you want "

    • @dawid_dahl
      @dawid_dahl 6 месяцев назад +8

      (4: Be credible and likeable.)

    • @FrontTech-qu3pe
      @FrontTech-qu3pe 4 месяца назад

      These advices are good but highly vague

  • @ReflectionOcean
    @ReflectionOcean 6 месяцев назад +514

    - Recognize that influence stems from likability and credibility. (0:31)
    - Identify and focus on your unique strengths and what you want to be known for. (1:14)
    - Avoid blindly following trends; prioritize learning and inquisitiveness. (1:56)
    - Seek a balance between ownership, mentorship, and autonomy in your career. (3:13)
    - Embrace simplicity and prioritize ruthlessly in your projects and features. (5:01)
    - Ensure everyone on your team understands the long-term goals and priorities. (6:02)
    - Understand the impact of money on life and find work that feels meaningful and enjoyable. (8:01)

    • @eggcellerate
      @eggcellerate 6 месяцев назад +3

      Thank you❤

    • @InconspicuousChap
      @InconspicuousChap 6 месяцев назад +3

      Add lifelong loyalty to the organization to this list, and you get a mafia oath. What's most interesting here is that there is not a single word about the IT (so called "hard") skills. This also matches the mafia HR principle.
      P.S. I hope this is just her personal projection because neither I nor a number of senior engineers I know wouldn't work in an environment she describes.

    • @danwallace213
      @danwallace213 6 месяцев назад

      😮😮😮😮

    • @brajat5538
      @brajat5538 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@InconspicuousChapwhat are hard skills? Isn't she having fun in her work? 😅

    • @InconspicuousChap
      @InconspicuousChap 5 месяцев назад

      @@brajat5538 my comment was not about whether she is having fun (I'd bet she's not), but that her recommendations are no different from those for joining Cosa Nostra. And if you try to follow them to find an engineer job, you going to get into a management hell.

  • @glockiyana2591
    @glockiyana2591 6 месяцев назад +58

    If you wanna be successful in any company you work for, just be HUMBLE, don't try to put others collegues down, ignore or be a duchbag just because your job is "more important" or you have more knowledge, learning how to listen is the first key to skyrocket you as a professional and human being

    • @drummermike5150
      @drummermike5150 6 месяцев назад

      Damn...this right here!!!!!

    • @Optim40
      @Optim40 5 месяцев назад

      You know what that is though ? Common sense.

    • @Optim40
      @Optim40 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@drummermike5150Why you acting like you've never heard this before ? As if Gen Z is schooling you ...nahh 😂

    • @AnykeySkywanker
      @AnykeySkywanker 5 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@Optim40why you acting like you already know it while being a douche?

  • @Trigenetic
    @Trigenetic 2 месяца назад +9

    My late friend had both likability and credibility/ability to deliver. She also invented Celery and made a difference in alot of things. RIP my friend. Love you

  • @derekdevs
    @derekdevs 6 месяцев назад +72

    I started going to college (part time) at 27 and didn’t start coding until 30. Graduated with a degree in CS and have been working in the field for 18 months now. I love what I do and wouldn’t change a thing. If you like solving problems, start coding!

    • @ozonzechibudike4293
      @ozonzechibudike4293 6 месяцев назад +4

      Thank you for this advice! I love it cos I am in similar shoes..

    • @LizyAd
      @LizyAd 6 месяцев назад +1

      Same!

    • @Prakhar_Choubey
      @Prakhar_Choubey 5 месяцев назад +3

      In this field you can't survive if you don't change a thing 😅

  • @mavioz
    @mavioz 6 месяцев назад +9

    This is really refreshing to hear. Simplicity and prioritisation will drive you forward. Especially in this age of bombardment of content.

  • @hp4985
    @hp4985 6 месяцев назад +75

    I always feared that I was learning the wrong things but now I feel I'll be okay as long as :
    1. I have good ethics and morals and can be friendly to others.
    2. And have at least learned the coding concepts regardless of language, system, etc. practicing life long learning everyday is very fun but also important to keep my brain healthy enough for long term work
    Just summarizing for myself

  • @shuddafuqup
    @shuddafuqup 6 месяцев назад +32

    Very sensible and straightforward advice and insights. Nothing fancy or unnecessarily contrarian.

  • @Medallion702
    @Medallion702 6 месяцев назад +4

    love the straightforward message, truly inspirational, i hope to build my career up and this gave me so much energy listening to someone who is passionate successful and driven. cheers.

  • @EnglishBros
    @EnglishBros 6 месяцев назад +51

    0:28: Influence in tech: likability and credibility are key for success.
    1:48: Success in software engineering requires inquisitiveness, passion, and a focus on core utility features.
    3:37: Experiencing rapid growth and learning from experienced founders led to the success of WhatsApp, with a focus on engineering culture.
    5:41: Prioritizing user experience and guiding principles in software engineering management.
    7:37: The impact of financial opportunities, the importance of finding fulfilling work, and the value of continuous engagement in one's passion.

    • @RAHULTMNT100
      @RAHULTMNT100 5 месяцев назад

      shes just lucky she was working in whatsapp. all of this dont mean shit

  • @sanz1996_
    @sanz1996_ 6 месяцев назад +2

    Great video,
    Having a mentor to look upto makes all the difference.
    There are great roles in companies outside of big tech gaints.

  • @saurabhrthakur
    @saurabhrthakur 6 месяцев назад +8

    These conversations would really be helpful to future engineers.

  • @clovemao329
    @clovemao329 6 месяцев назад +2

    You earned subs. I can say I like you already when you explain the concept credibility and likeability. Man. I hope to learn more from you. I am an empty sheets 😅

  • @rcgonzalezf
    @rcgonzalezf 6 месяцев назад +5

    Good interview and refreshing because it wasn't selling us a subscription, good content!

  • @Enterprise-Architect
    @Enterprise-Architect 6 месяцев назад +3

    One person's success could be another person's failure. Follow your journey than following another person's footstep... Honesty and Discipline is the mantra for success!

  • @UniversalTomato
    @UniversalTomato 6 месяцев назад +16

    What an awesome video and message. As I start my first day of my first software engineering job tomorrow I’ll be sure to reference this video afterwards and then once again every year or so as my journey continues.

    • @i_zoru
      @i_zoru 6 месяцев назад

      good luck buddy, i hope the best of u

    • @diwakardayal954
      @diwakardayal954 6 месяцев назад +1

      Hey
      Maintain daily log wat works what not
      Might help you in long run
      All the best

  • @dadamnmayne
    @dadamnmayne 6 месяцев назад +5

    its hard to find good videos like this these days. she drops fact after fact here.

  • @lethatsinkin
    @lethatsinkin 5 месяцев назад +1

    Great video, ending was really a cherry on top ❤

  • @autreelodia3456
    @autreelodia3456 5 месяцев назад +1

    Omg, she is so inspiring! 😻 Thank you very much gor this video!

  • @RomanShchekin
    @RomanShchekin 6 месяцев назад +2

    Breathtaking. Thanks. Gonna think it.

  • @seunghwanlee1542
    @seunghwanlee1542 6 месяцев назад +1

    What an informative content ❤ thank you EO

  • @MrDavidrie
    @MrDavidrie 6 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you so much for this. Loved The idea of what work should mean

  • @ryanmckenna2047
    @ryanmckenna2047 6 месяцев назад +1

    Amazing advice , you inspire me!

  • @user-ic4rq1jp1o
    @user-ic4rq1jp1o 6 месяцев назад +1

    Amazing. Share a lot of insights.

  • @friendly__drone9352
    @friendly__drone9352 6 месяцев назад +11

    Amazing interview! I would work for her in a heartbeat! I wouldn't be good enough to be on her team but still!

    • @PreludeSon
      @PreludeSon 6 месяцев назад +3

      You need to believe in yourself. It'll be a good start

  • @csy897
    @csy897 6 месяцев назад +3

    The bad thing about loving your job so much is that everything else seems boring even the latest and greatest tv show. And when your doctor says you need to reduce stress and work it is extremely difficult.

  • @kenjimiwa3739
    @kenjimiwa3739 6 месяцев назад +1

    Great honest video thanks for sharing!

  • @YosmelLGD
    @YosmelLGD 6 месяцев назад +2

    Amazing interview!

  • @googlygoogle7073
    @googlygoogle7073 24 дня назад

    Wow, this channel is a total gem. I genuinely appreciate the amazing content you guys are delivering

  • @nosh3019
    @nosh3019 6 месяцев назад +1

    Wow great and authentic. Thanks

  • @Anurag_Hansda
    @Anurag_Hansda Месяц назад

    simplicity with prioritisation. And doing meaningful stuff.

  • @naveenimmadisetti1548
    @naveenimmadisetti1548 6 месяцев назад +1

    how to be a great engineer to how to spend the life.. awesome video..

  • @wardsuleiman1640
    @wardsuleiman1640 5 месяцев назад

    Thank you for this amazing video!

  • @vivekteega
    @vivekteega 6 месяцев назад +1

    This was a great video, thank you

  • @Normi19
    @Normi19 6 месяцев назад +1

    What great insights, and video.

  • @Quan-dr8iy
    @Quan-dr8iy Месяц назад

    She is top 1% for a reason. This video is wholesome 👏👏.

  • @kannayao
    @kannayao 2 месяца назад +3

    As an expat working oversea, I agree with her 100% that the likability and creditability are the main characters we look for when forming the A Team for new project.

  • @josephjoestar995
    @josephjoestar995 5 месяцев назад

    Incredible video, such great advice

  • @mirror03251
    @mirror03251 6 месяцев назад +4

    Thank you. Very informative!

  • @VKjkd
    @VKjkd 5 месяцев назад

    Great video. Thank you 🙏🏼

  • @barayoon-vq6ey
    @barayoon-vq6ey 6 месяцев назад +2

    Great tips

  • @viky2002
    @viky2002 6 месяцев назад +2

    amazing !

  • @KellyOhara
    @KellyOhara 5 месяцев назад +1

    Excellent!

  • @namaefumei
    @namaefumei 6 месяцев назад +2

    I teach web dev, I do mentoring and I cant even start to explain the thoughts beginners have about react because or the ecosystem chaos. It's like a maze now. You need to learn sooo much to land a job now. Solid HTML CSS JavaScript AND React isnt enough now. You need nextjs too. Layer over layer.

  • @krysnkem6746
    @krysnkem6746 5 месяцев назад +1

    So much depth

  • @Yuraeka
    @Yuraeka 6 месяцев назад +1

    Informative contents = )

  • @HSNMSD
    @HSNMSD 6 месяцев назад +2

    I really love this video and learned to become a part in my computer science journey. Your video help me to keep working on your prioritize task instead work on at the same time on multitasking. Learning new things every day as the technology changes we learn to solve own problems and clients problems. we can solve the problem if we understand the problem well. I also afraid to math a lot but i try to solve math problems as i become engineer.
    sorry for my bad english actually i'm learning to write in english.

  • @John-3692
    @John-3692 5 месяцев назад

    This is a true gem. I recently enjoyed a similar book, and it was a true gem. "Mastering AWS: A Software Engineers Guide" by Nathan Vale

  • @kurihara9023
    @kurihara9023 6 месяцев назад

    In fact why should I be ? The truth is the more genius you are the lot of responsibility you should carry,,in fact you are not going to stand over the corner and watching people die or killing each other right,,and because you don't understand what is love that make you protect the things you care..

  • @nammi895
    @nammi895 5 месяцев назад

    Forgot top 1% software engg.
    Can Jean Lee give a talk on how to be in top 1% of beautiful women🎉❤
    Beauty with brains

  • @itsworkinprogress
    @itsworkinprogress 5 месяцев назад

    Wise woman!

  • @Dazaer
    @Dazaer 6 месяцев назад +4

    Universal Basic Income. How about we make it happen so that everyone can just "redefine the meaning of work" and not only the ones who win out on billion dollar sales?

    • @jonathandavis9507
      @jonathandavis9507 5 месяцев назад

      She just explained what skills work in the video. That doesn’t mean you’ll get acquired by Facebook but it will help in your career.

  • @mementomori8856
    @mementomori8856 6 месяцев назад +1

    I wish someone just gives me a chance, I just need one.

  • @jmon24ify
    @jmon24ify 6 месяцев назад +1

    I really like this video. My only questions are what is the top 1% of software engineers and what identifies someone as top 1%?

    • @hugenerretho9151
      @hugenerretho9151 6 месяцев назад +1

      Ikr, its just for attention to get a view on this video

  • @JoaquinTorroba
    @JoaquinTorroba 6 месяцев назад +1

    👏🏼

  • @asdfchaos
    @asdfchaos 5 месяцев назад

    That’s great, but I still don’t like how WhatsApp collects so much user data that ends up being leaked or sold. It’s really not privacy safe.

  • @maintaintechtz
    @maintaintechtz 6 месяцев назад

    nice video

  • @rickr530
    @rickr530 5 месяцев назад +1

    Oh yeah, it's always fun when a rich person tells you how unimportant money is or the CEO gives a pep talk about how "work should be fun" right before hopping on the corporate jet to conduct business from a ski lodge in the Swiss Alps. I'm sure they're right, though. If I had everything they have then I too would take it for granted.

  • @joristube
    @joristube 6 месяцев назад +8

    Unlike 99% of all hiring managers

  • @aberba
    @aberba 5 месяцев назад +1

    WhatsApp is now getting complicated by the day with it's design as they move to add in more features. It's a hard problem but they're approaching it wrong in terms of navigation and layout. Channels is messed up.

  • @evurohardware
    @evurohardware 6 месяцев назад

    Take a breather

  • @namu5583
    @namu5583 5 месяцев назад

    Why chopping the video if you have multiple camera? Why not make it smooth editing?

  • @artificiyal
    @artificiyal 6 месяцев назад +1

    Note to self: make app for grandmas in the middle of nowhere.

  • @bawabro
    @bawabro 2 месяца назад

    I never understood what whatsapp engineers were building except for the different UI each year unecessarily.

  • @dakine4238
    @dakine4238 2 месяца назад

    I like lots of different things is the problem.

  • @WoWUndad
    @WoWUndad 6 месяцев назад

    Supet senior engineer explains her basic chat app

  • @ashura5357
    @ashura5357 2 месяца назад +1

    advise me on how to sell people’s personal data

  • @TheUmangTarang
    @TheUmangTarang 6 месяцев назад +1

    K, I'm a fan

  • @sk3ffingtonai
    @sk3ffingtonai 2 месяца назад

    👏

  • @mathijs9365
    @mathijs9365 6 месяцев назад +1

    Hiring managers only want ro see experienced in lot of different languages

  • @tyo007
    @tyo007 6 месяцев назад +1

    whatsapp acquired for $19 billion. If she had like 0.01% of total shares, that would be a grand total of $1.9 million, millionare in overnight..super lucky and of course counting how many days she works there as well..

  • @vizzyphd
    @vizzyphd 5 месяцев назад

    Why am i crying? 🥺🥺

  • @princebautista
    @princebautista 6 месяцев назад +2

    Leaving a comment so I can get back to this

    • @WofWca
      @WofWca 6 месяцев назад +1

      Can you find the list of your comments? In case not, here is a notification for you

    • @princebautista
      @princebautista 6 месяцев назад

      @@WofWca History (left panel) > Comments (right panel)

  • @dumbfailurekms
    @dumbfailurekms 6 месяцев назад

    The video is 9 minutes yet all the comments are like summaries with timestamps lol

  • @Jeremy-ji1sk
    @Jeremy-ji1sk 6 месяцев назад

  • @ScaleScarborough-jq8zx
    @ScaleScarborough-jq8zx 2 месяца назад

    Person vs. employee. Don’t limit yourself so!

  • @menthorlabs
    @menthorlabs 6 месяцев назад +6

    First!

  • @truth-12345.
    @truth-12345. 6 месяцев назад +1

    1:57 This is what I'm talking about. I've fallen victim from this RUclips channels that were talking about new shiny platforms and frameworks that were not proven yet and will likely bring your project to shit if you relied on it. I was late to realize that they were just including this stuff in their content just for "clout".
    Don't make this same mistake ever.

  • @the_derpler
    @the_derpler 2 месяца назад

    So basically be talented AND super luck out at being in the right place at the right time? I have friends here in SF that just own homes here and quit their career because they happened to work at Instagram doing normal level work during their facebook acquisition. They are no more or less talented than any of the friends in our engineering crew out here. It's just about lucking out for a huge % of people that make it.

  • @Youtubehandles1234
    @Youtubehandles1234 5 месяцев назад

    Title has a typo

  • @jiggartala2008
    @jiggartala2008 2 месяца назад

    According to programming language being fadeout, she doesn't have any idea that Cobol is still using :))

  • @rverm1000
    @rverm1000 Месяц назад

    credibility and likeability? aren't thing you find at any businesses today. wow where do i start. there are so many bad things about businesses you dont know. i never got the chance to create likeability or credibility. i took up coding 4 years ago to improve my financial situation. having electronics repair/engineering experience and coding experience i thought would help my situation. the problem there are so many businesses that pay so little for electronics its pathetic. it has been improving lately ironically. but my coding experience has helped me in stock market so much more. i am more likely to make more money in the stock market than as a tech!

  • @asternoob1842
    @asternoob1842 Месяц назад

    her unflinching ability to say ass hole wowww . i like that 😂

  • @puneettripathi8418
    @puneettripathi8418 6 месяцев назад +1

    They might have thrown away the "No gimmick" note, based on the recent bullsh*t updates they have been pumping out.

  • @bloodz0r
    @bloodz0r 5 месяцев назад

    Easy. Born as korean

  • @AndreasLianos
    @AndreasLianos 5 месяцев назад

    that would be a great video is it wasn't excited within an inch of is life.

  • @Niko753A
    @Niko753A 6 месяцев назад

    I am going to get a tattoo saying "Following trends is a guarantee for failure because you will be a step behind" :-)

    • @ant-dev
      @ant-dev 6 месяцев назад

      *always be

  • @14-Peaks
    @14-Peaks 6 месяцев назад

    👍

  • @khanra17
    @khanra17 6 месяцев назад +2

    WhatsApp has a terrible codebase.
    Atleast the Android part

  • @uWishImaBotButImNot
    @uWishImaBotButImNot Месяц назад

    Background music is too loud. Its unnecessary even if it was at proper volume.

  • @ParagPandit
    @ParagPandit 6 месяцев назад

    She sounded IBM before she said 3:23

  • @GameMasters825
    @GameMasters825 5 месяцев назад +1

    In this field chinese people are dominant dammmm

  • @sul-dev
    @sul-dev 3 месяца назад

    To sum up what she said in one word: Prioritisation

  • @twowheelwanderer98
    @twowheelwanderer98 6 месяцев назад +1

    don't know,its like hearing your own story through some one else , really liked it .

  • @Optim40
    @Optim40 5 месяцев назад

    It really is just common sense. Like..damnn..😂

  • @lucaxtshotting2378
    @lucaxtshotting2378 5 месяцев назад +2

    so basically get lucky

  • @KristianTheDesigner
    @KristianTheDesigner 6 месяцев назад

    Great talk. The music is really distracting.

  • @soumo3464
    @soumo3464 3 месяца назад

    I guess the poster of "No gimmicks" fell off the wall. And whatsapp is back with channels , payments 🎃