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Looks like a fun bike. I did have to smirk that you said you can't ride it on trails and need a motorcycle helmet where you live and then proceed to demo it on trails without a helmet. Which brand of batteries does use (Sanyo etc...)?
Please don't send this to the Italian police! :D But honestly, if I'd just ride it around my town, I probably wouldn't even need to register it because it's mostly just farmers there and I don't remember I've ever seen a cop on those roads. For the battery, you can see the specs at 04:03. I don't have access to the bike now to check because I'm in another country right now for a bit. But it looks like it's their own battery.
But I do plan on registering it when I turn back and probably doing a several-day bikepacking trip and making a video about it. :) Not focused on the bike, but just a cool trip video. It would be nice to do something else for a change, not just hiking! :D
I still think DIY eBikes are the way for now, at least for people who are a bit mechanically inclined. With 800 euros I converted my cheapo decahtlon MTB and I get about 100 kms on flat, with 4-5 lvl assist (5 being maximum), doing 25-30 kph. The battery is 800 Wh with Molicell 21700 lithium cells, so good cells, and a torque sensor 80 Nm 250W motor. When I see the prices on these eBikes I just don't get it. With the price of a cube with bosch drivetrain for example, one can get a good second hand proper motorcycle.
If I'd have the time, space, and necessary tools, I'd love to do my own eBike project. I'm sure you can get even better results that way, and it would also be really fun to make.
Several months later - this isn't a toy. It's a chinese e-bike, yes, but definately on the higher quality end on the spectrum. The only thing that I've had to change so far are the brake pads. Long-distance bikepacking in this is definitely doable, especially with 3 batteries. However, I think the most limiting factor is weight and the fat tires, which make it hard to cycle if it runs out of power, and if the road isn't flat or downhill. For mostly gravel road stuff, this would be a good option for long-distance bike trips (like for example, in the Baltics, where I come from, where most bikepacking routes go on gravel roads). But if you'll be going mostly on paved roads, a better option for sure would be a touring ebike with offroad tires (not fat tires), and weight below 25kg (this one is 37kg). This would allow you to essentially use the assist only going uphill, which would greatly improve the range. For the price of this one, you could definitely find something like that. Probably also from a Chinese brand, but still - if you're willing to do modifications and repair it yourself, then I think for a first e-bike specifically, a Chinese ebike is a good option.
A 20kg bicycle is hard enough to pedal. At 35kg, I wonder if we can still call it a manual bicycle. 😂 But that's what happens when you want fat tyres and long range batteries.
Had an ebike, the Ribble Endurance ALE. With a 250W motor and 250 W battery got about 30 miles with max 100% assist Put a Bafung 250W motor on an ICE Sprint X 26 Tour recumbent trike equiped with a rohloff hub and using a 565W battery . It gets about 60 miles on max 100% assist on the road, till the battery drops to below 20%. It pulls a trailer with 6 spare batteries and an extra on the frame giving about 480 miles range. Fitted a motor as sick of bicycles overtaking me climbing hills, now it blows past them up and down hills.
could you explain more in depth how this works? how to make DIY e-bikes? or if its worth it vs buying a pre-made one. im thinking its cheaper to build one, and more efficient too
These E-bikes cannot be ridden on a road or bye-way in the UK unless the owner complies with the various pieces of legislation that cover mechanically propelled vehicles (simply put as it is a large subject to explain here).
Ive got a fat tyre ebike that is a little heavier than this one. Its got a 48v 20 amp hour battery which gets me around 30 miles using a mixture of peddle assist and throttle. I mostly use the higher settings 3 - 5. An extra battery would be good but the batteries i need are around £600. This Fido looks equally well built. I think i will build my next ebike so it's a bit lighter than these and if need be say for a breakdown i could peddle them without assistance home for repair. Good review cheers
The disadvantage of an electric motorcycle like this, is that if you use it without full throttle and motorised help, it is too heavy to cycle. I dislike the use of an app as well, what if you have no cell service to connect to your bike in the middle of nowhere? Unless it also works with Bluetooth.
Yeah without any assist, you can only use it on a flat terrain or downhill. That definitely is a pretty big disadvantage. I mean theoretically, you can also go uphill on pretty much the lowest gear, but it's so much work. Oh and about the app - you don't need to use it. You can unlock everything through the screen as well if your phone is dead.
I think I would prefer something more lightweight, closer to an MTB, and maybe with a 250W motor. But this thing is also really cool. Because it's a fat-tire bike, you can ride it almost anywhere very comfortably. I think it's best suited for heavier people and people who don't want to pedal almost at all, and ride on trails and bad-quality dirt roads. It's like an SUV version of a bike. :D But I've had a lot of MTB experience as a kid, so I think I'd prefer something more nimble.
It's not very efficient. My GZR Raw with 250w bafang middrive and 650wh battery has a range of ~80km with a single battery. I live tge concept, but the efficiency isn't good enough.
Fiido is running a sale right now! Get the Fiido Titan over here (affiliate links):
Fiido EU store: shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=2557236&u=4231089&m=105163&urllink=&afftrack=
Fiido US store: shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=2557337&u=4231089&m=105163&urllink=&afftrack=
Looks like a fun bike. I did have to smirk that you said you can't ride it on trails and need a motorcycle helmet where you live and then proceed to demo it on trails without a helmet. Which brand of batteries does use (Sanyo etc...)?
Please don't send this to the Italian police! :D But honestly, if I'd just ride it around my town, I probably wouldn't even need to register it because it's mostly just farmers there and I don't remember I've ever seen a cop on those roads. For the battery, you can see the specs at 04:03. I don't have access to the bike now to check because I'm in another country right now for a bit. But it looks like it's their own battery.
But I do plan on registering it when I turn back and probably doing a several-day bikepacking trip and making a video about it. :) Not focused on the bike, but just a cool trip video. It would be nice to do something else for a change, not just hiking! :D
The law excludes pedal assist bikes.
I still think DIY eBikes are the way for now, at least for people who are a bit mechanically inclined. With 800 euros I converted my cheapo decahtlon MTB and I get about 100 kms on flat, with 4-5 lvl assist (5 being maximum), doing 25-30 kph. The battery is 800 Wh with Molicell 21700 lithium cells, so good cells, and a torque sensor 80 Nm 250W motor. When I see the prices on these eBikes I just don't get it. With the price of a cube with bosch drivetrain for example, one can get a good second hand proper motorcycle.
If I'd have the time, space, and necessary tools, I'd love to do my own eBike project. I'm sure you can get even better results that way, and it would also be really fun to make.
yeah and you attach a battery outside the frame that looks like shit, no thank you. I want my battery in the frame
@@СтивънМетрашев if you want to pay arround 2k more for a nice finish, sure go ahead.
gall i wish i could get my hands on this for a review/video on it
It cracks me up *and* makes me sad that you think this toy is a quality *_long-range_* ebike. It's not.
Several months later - this isn't a toy. It's a chinese e-bike, yes, but definately on the higher quality end on the spectrum. The only thing that I've had to change so far are the brake pads. Long-distance bikepacking in this is definitely doable, especially with 3 batteries. However, I think the most limiting factor is weight and the fat tires, which make it hard to cycle if it runs out of power, and if the road isn't flat or downhill. For mostly gravel road stuff, this would be a good option for long-distance bike trips (like for example, in the Baltics, where I come from, where most bikepacking routes go on gravel roads). But if you'll be going mostly on paved roads, a better option for sure would be a touring ebike with offroad tires (not fat tires), and weight below 25kg (this one is 37kg). This would allow you to essentially use the assist only going uphill, which would greatly improve the range. For the price of this one, you could definitely find something like that. Probably also from a Chinese brand, but still - if you're willing to do modifications and repair it yourself, then I think for a first e-bike specifically, a Chinese ebike is a good option.
After this goooood video i will buy this e bike,i live in Croatia Dalmatia many up hills,greatings from Imotski Dalmatia,thanks
what do you do if your phone battery is dead and the bike is all out of power? is there no physical key top open it?
Use the bike screen to unlock it
A 20kg bicycle is hard enough to pedal. At 35kg, I wonder if we can still call it a manual bicycle. 😂 But that's what happens when you want fat tyres and long range batteries.
You don't mention the foult s ie battery unlock switch doesn't work and you can't get the battery out and no support from fiido
Had an ebike, the Ribble Endurance ALE. With a 250W motor and 250 W battery got about 30 miles with max 100% assist
Put a Bafung 250W motor on an ICE Sprint X 26 Tour recumbent trike equiped with a rohloff hub and using a 565W battery . It gets about 60 miles on max 100% assist on the road, till the battery drops to below 20%. It pulls a trailer with 6 spare batteries and an extra on the frame giving about 480 miles range.
Fitted a motor as sick of bicycles overtaking me climbing hills, now it blows past them up and down hills.
Damn that sounds so cool! 480 mile range is A LOT!
could you explain more in depth how this works? how to make DIY e-bikes? or if its worth it vs buying a pre-made one. im thinking its cheaper to build one, and more efficient too
These E-bikes cannot be ridden on a road or bye-way in the UK unless the owner complies with the various pieces of legislation that cover mechanically propelled vehicles (simply put as it is a large subject to explain here).
I thought that too
They can. We have similar legislation over here, and the limited (25 kph) version of Fiido bikes complies with the law.
Ive got a fat tyre ebike that is a little heavier than this one. Its got a 48v 20 amp hour battery which gets me around 30 miles using a mixture of peddle assist and throttle. I mostly use the higher settings 3 - 5.
An extra battery would be good but the batteries i need are around £600.
This Fido looks equally well built. I think i will build my next ebike so it's a bit lighter than these and if need be say for a breakdown i could peddle them without assistance home for repair.
Good review cheers
So are you going to get insured and wear a helmet or does it not count if you're only riding it locked?
Would you recommend it to smaller people as well? Like 165 cm
The disadvantage of an electric motorcycle like this, is that if you use it without full throttle and motorised help, it is too heavy to cycle. I dislike the use of an app as well, what if you have no cell service to connect to your bike in the middle of nowhere? Unless it also works with Bluetooth.
Yeah without any assist, you can only use it on a flat terrain or downhill. That definitely is a pretty big disadvantage. I mean theoretically, you can also go uphill on pretty much the lowest gear, but it's so much work. Oh and about the app - you don't need to use it. You can unlock everything through the screen as well if your phone is dead.
I think I would prefer something more lightweight, closer to an MTB, and maybe with a 250W motor. But this thing is also really cool. Because it's a fat-tire bike, you can ride it almost anywhere very comfortably. I think it's best suited for heavier people and people who don't want to pedal almost at all, and ride on trails and bad-quality dirt roads. It's like an SUV version of a bike. :D But I've had a lot of MTB experience as a kid, so I think I'd prefer something more nimble.
It's not very efficient. My GZR Raw with 250w bafang middrive and 650wh battery has a range of ~80km with a single battery.
I live tge concept, but the efficiency isn't good enough.
may I ask you how big long are you in cm
It's fun to "dream" about, but there's no way I could justify that price.
im16 and i was able 2
@@orenduffy874 good for you?
man thats a cool ass ebike i need it
Se si rompe?