Why THIS New TV Matters! (Mini LED Explained)
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Could Mini LED technology deliver near-OLED quality at a lower price?
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Engineers: We made these mini LEDs that greatly increase the contrast ratio, and general picture quality, due to much better dimming.
Industry: .... Yo! Gather 'round, we got that 8K curve TV upgrade you've all wanted!
These companies just don't want to give us what we want!! Maybe because then no one will upgrade.
Oh boi, oh boi! I sure do love myself some curvature to my 8K display!
No one wants 8k. 4k is just now getting adopted in Hollywood.
@@achkr597 Nobody needs to upgrade, a 4k ultra hd tv is just fine for the content that is available and has been for years now.
Yea but we also got no 8k content to see it!!
lol, for a moment I thought Tim Hortons was the sponsor...
If you want to be peak Canadian, go to a Tim Hortons and pay with CT money.
I thought so too
Linus IS the king of segways
This video actually makes me wanting to buy Timbits like right now.
Der Hof 2007 I think there’s a movie about him. I believe he heard a who
I would have preferred to hear about the loss/gains between mini-LED & OLED, when you want your blacks to be properly black.
He told you.
OLED turns on/off individual pixels (self emitting pixels). MiniLED have alot of zones behind a LCD panel. Both are great in their own way but for the moment atleast OLED has the best blacks along side with MicroLED since they both have self emissing pixels.
And he didn't even mention that OLEDs degrade with use, especially the blue sub-pixels. Mini-LEDs are just a placeholder technology until micro-LEDs come out (same logic as OLED, but last much longer as they don't use organic compounds).
@@nooneisback That's why they actually use slightly larger blue subpixels so they can degrade equaly. So they kinda fixed that one. But still there are some drawbacks microLED will fix. So will be fun to see how it evolves
@@Oystein87 I just mentioned the blue part as an extra. OLEDs get wasted really quickly. My Galaxy Note 8 runs as every today's higher-medium end phone in every aspect except for the screen. I have a Critical Ops' chat button and the discord's send button burnt in and it gets really annoying at times.
@@nooneisback Hmm.. Never experienced any signs of burn-in on any of my Samsung phones. Even with my heavy use
1:40 That was pretty well hidden. Good Job. FU too.
Loool, nice find
I say it's more F Off more than anything. But I did notice the U creep up dimly for a split second.
I don't see it
@@egg-roll8968 gtfo
I'm looking forward to flat screens with higher dynamic range. I think that's a more important than resolution at this point.
the resolution doesn't change with mini-LED.
@@MHWGamer technically it could increase the resolution.
@@maurice7017 "could" is the key. 4k is hardware wise a consumer product but the media isn't. Most of the stuff is still in 1080p (even for most movies the final cut is only in 2k) therefore an increase in resolution doesn't make sense right now and for the next few years.
Also mini-Led is partly based on the edia that with smaller leds, there is more "real" black screens and therefore the contrast improves. So you are correct with "technical could", but it would make sense in all sectors
@@MHWGamer that's why i said technically. Because it could be possible.
@@MHWGamer I know, but i just hope HDR gets priority for the next couple years.
Maybe I blacked out in the middle of the video, but did I miss where he explains what Mini LED actually is and does?
PS: 2:03
okay, I found it. so mini LEDs make up the backlight and now they can dim more accurately because they're smaller. Got it.
Man, that was like 10 seconds of information that I actually needed within that 4 minute video.
Ok that was fucking creepy, I did as well 😂😂
The back light areas are still quite big, ca. 3x3cm, on a 55" tv.
OLEDs cause burning imprint on screen, both technologies are not perfect. Till micro LEDs are perfected, we will have to make-do with what we got.
@@lordof7seas self emissive quantum dots will probably be perfected before micro LED is consumer priced.
@@lordof7seas The risks of OLED burnin is overstated. Yes you can get burnins but it takes some serious mistreatment of the panel for it to happen. Check out rtings burnin test.
@Martin Schmidt Some LCDs use quantum dots as a filter for the backlight for a wider color spectrum. It's not the LCD. You should look up self emissive quantum dots.
@@anarfox till that to my galaxy s8+ where it's hard to find a clear spot with no burn in on the screen, and am someone trying very hard for it not to happen, but tbf early adopters had this issue since it occurs from an early software error that doesn't account for possible burn ins, but it was fixed quickly in less than a month, even with that alot of new stuff kept burning in the screen say back buttons status bar icons hell even the RUclips video box got quite the burn in.
Sticking to my LCD until micro LED hits the market then I finally buy my LED tv.
I still have my LCD from 2011, in case I want to play older games at 768p.
@@CaveyMoth my parents have a 15 year old LED tv, its proper 1080p
you should troll less
u do know that oled are better right?
you mean CFL LCD right? cuz LED TV's are also LCD that has LED bulb as a back light.
@@joshr2d2 yeah, thats why im waiting for either oleds to get rly cheap, or those mini leds to get cheap, local dimming lcds are ok for films and stuff that doesnt have cursor on the screen (especially if u can change colour of the subtitles to light grey, so the subs not trying to burn ur eyes like on samsungs qleds for example, or massive blooming on sonys)
Lol "mini me" reference killed me haha. I would literally cry if Linus retired.
That was probably his writers but same man
@@smh_____tbh even if it was, Linus is way better at delivering the jokes than the other people in his staff.
He's much more charismatic than them and Tech quickie won't be the same without him
@@neothechosenone1502 I agree on the most part, but I think James could definitely give Linus a run for his money.
You're pretty easy to please, huh
3:47 i would buy this one but it should say: Do as i say, not as i drop.
It's LTT after all.
Idk why but that "mini me" cracked me up more than it should have 😂
Same, it was worth watching the whole video for that lol
Ok but why not just go with OLED?
Derek D too many cons. Mini me is a far more superior life form
@@Derek_The_Magnificent_Bastard OLED has a weakness. *Burn In* overtime, pixels die or got stuck on a certain color.
*Micro-LED* solves this weakness but is harder to manufacture thus more expensive.
@@fps8786 Burn in is highly exaggerated. Sure, if you are using the TV for a waiting room TV with the same channel on with the same logo in the corner for 24/7 then yes, OLED is a bad choice. But for the average person who only has the TV on 6 hours a day at the most, flipping channels, there is no real risk. Plus they are now selling OLEDs with pixel refresher software thus helping to alleviate it.
Mini LED?? What about *Micro LED* ?!
Edit: Nahh, I'll wait for Nano LED TVs.
Maby If meke smaller led tenology from mini led to call micro led or nano led
Lol thx for the likes 😂
@@watercat1248 what are you trying to say?
@@nowonmetube I Try sey is passable too make even smaller led technology in future from mini led and I have allredy name
@@watercat1248 your text is very hard too read
Led are so amazing from being indicators light for tvs, cars, radios ect in the early days, now they're powerful enough for car headlights, tv backlights, ceiling lights gotta say led is impressive for what it is and it's progression.
Old technology progress is making them like oled won’t be long before microled becomes like a plastic film lilm like organic oled but better because all oled is basically a sheet that lights up with RGB but microled is getting soooo small won’t be even see it be like a sheet of glass
next weeks video: Linus upgrades his home TV. Again.
This isn't an upgrade from OLED. This is just a more cost efficient technology
boy, the work that must go into making all these graphics for this video...
Linus: "Mini versions of things have proven to be quite popular"
iPhone 12 Mini: *Yeah right*
This will definitely be really great to see once it hits mass market! The local dimming on my TV is great for the most part, but is really noticeable when playing games, and I bet this would alleviate that issue!
"Actually, I'm not going anywhere because I've got to tell you about our sponsor!"
IGHT IMMA HEAD OUT
Videos like this are where Linux really shines. His ability to explain technology incredible and I learn a lot from him in this format.
When my plasma TV dies I'm getting an OLED. So far I've gotten 7 years out of my 60 inch plasma
I've gotten 12 years out of my LCD tv and it's still going strong.
Love my plasma TV. Really great vibrant colours and 100Hz refresh rate. Will keep it as long as I can.
Only thing right now that can beat you're plasmas contrast ratio is crt technology which is obsolete. Crt cant beat a plasma refresh rate though, ive seen a lot of plasmas running at 480hz or 240hz when they show 3d. Dlp come close to plasma contrast ratio but side viewing angles suck when used in rear projection tv using led lighting engines and they cant match the speed. Only reason i don't have plasma is the burn in possibility. I use monitors as a tv also so i went with rear projection led 3d dlp tvs. Thinking of buying a used 3d plasma tv though just for the ps5 when it launches. I think old plasma tv's will get harder to find cheap on the used market soon. They blow away the sets you see in best buy these days which is sad.
@@melgibson6331 lol crt can’t beat plasma refresh rate but they have no lag
Love your vids linus keep the awsome work up💖
I’ve been reading about this on-and-off since 2018. Which is why I have no intention of buying a tv until at least the middle of the decade. Great job covering it!!
I got it! It was very easy and clear explanation. thanks
want a video that explains very briefly all screen types , lcd , led , mini led , micro led , nano led , oled , qled , tn/ips etc etc.
It’s already 1:41 here in the Philippines but I need to watch this before I sleep.
Ify buddy
yeah, 12:48 here
xD
2:05am here lol
It's 4 minutes...
Hardly matters.
Ok I laughed more than I probably should have at "Mini-Me"
haha ive seen that movie before haha
Could you make a video on what a fieldbus is and the OSI model?
faap stands "for an affordable price" ?
i am waiting for an affordable priced led filament to 3d print screens as anything .
This is educational and FUN. Two words rarely used in the same sentence
Do TVs thermal throttle? Would appreciate if this gets awnsered cause I touched my new samsung 4k smart TV and used it for only an hour and the screen was really hot.
What about the LCD local dimming you saw at CES Hisense I think? like 2 years ago?
I can't wait to buy the OLED48CX (ext warranty) + PS5 for gaming HDR goodness
Thanks! I was thinking about a OLED TV... not because I needed it but a want. I'll wait now.
When are they gonna run out of names? I can imagine makroLED, nanoLED i dunno maybe quantumLED but yeah
Makro? That spelling tells me you're propably a native German speaker.
@@genau14zeichen Ja man deutscher gehts quasi nicht
@@sane3184 du hättest auch sagen können "I hope I become a miniLED TV for my birthday" 😂 das wäre auch ein eindeutiger Indikator
Quantum LED already exists (Samsung QLED)
Nano Led Sounds like the Next Step in the Future.
Please do a similar video for dual cell LCDs! These TVs are the only ones that can truly rival OLEDs.
Man the pink lambo in the painting. Memories 😣
Is it possible OLED will also improve in both price and longevity in time to where mini and micro LED really aren't as attractive an option? also what is the power efficiency of these newer LED technologies? Also can the new smaller LED's do flexibile or curved screens? Power efficiency is key in portable electronics. Less so in home tv sets but many people do look for efficiency there too
They snuck Honey into the video and it wasn't even the sponsor spot. Next level transitions, Linus..next level..
Hey mr. Linus Good one what I was wondering if you could make a video showing about LG autocal system that you can Auto calibrate your TV your own self because it have a pattern generator built in but on the other side the HDR part doesn't give a before-and-after reading so you don't know if your HDR calibration is accurate so I was wondering if you could do a video with the HDR part with the built-in signal generator not a regular pattern generator and then test it just to see if the HDR parts is accurate if you understand me
so is it going to be as good as oleds or is it going to get closer (contrast/blacks)? either way I think this is going to replace OLEDs in the end consumer market, since apparently there is no sloution for the OLEDs flaws
Is an ellipse pixel a better one to present a picture on a modus, just a suggestion, thanks and kind regards.
Linus looks like he's on the verge of tears in this video but doing a great job of staying professional
Video idea: why do loading bars get stuck at 100%??
This reminds me of the Sony backlight Master Drive in their Z9 series.... Isn't it basically the same thing?
Whatever happened to that TV from CES a year or so ago that had a second black and white LCD screen behind the first one for hardcore local dimming?
wonder how it affects gaming monitors, would 240 ips miniLED vable?
Oh you got me, I thought there wasn't going to be an ad, good one!
are these the same as the capellix rgb leds on the corsair ram?
Just got a LG QNED and its freaking amazing!
Cool, the end all of screen tech.
are they the same at the QLED that's being advertised?
ok I'll go get myself some Tim bits now. thanks for reminding Linus!
Soooooo, how do you hang the magnets? double-sided tape?
Will you guys be at ISE in Amsterdam this year?
How small would it be a linus' mimi me?
Great. SO.... when is this going to be available in 43in 4k 120hz with HDR? Preferably 4:4:4.
Thanks Linus, I live no where near a Tim Hortons and now want tim-bits
I was recently watching your videos about hard drive failings and defragmentation and stuff and I remembered that a while ago I was thinking about my Lenovo external hard drive that how the angular momentum of the disk makes it to make sounds when I try to my it not much gently then after seeing that how dangerous is to move HDDs and even one particle of dust between the platter and the disk can do serious damages to the hard drive but I thought there where plenty of times that I moved my hard to hear the scratching noise out of it it didn't do anything and even once my friend shacked my hard drive fast that it made the scratching noise in the way that it seemed to slow the disk down and it was in middle of a data transfer it stopped copying the data for few seconds but then it started again with no problem and I'm now so curious that how it managed to not die!??? (I dropped it a few times too; and it's not just my external hard drive my other friends thin single disk external hard drive was OK)
Please make a video about it.
That scratching noise was not between the platter and reading head. If that sound was long and loud enough to hear it and was on the platter - your disk would've been instantly dead. What you've heard instead, was the sound of disk's case cover scratching the motor axis. So, disk slowed down, recalibrated it's speed and continued transfer. Also, every HDD has about 10% of its size reserved for spare sectors.
@@andrewzasidko6595 thank you for answering my question but I have another question to what about my laptop it has a 1TB HDD (2.5'' I think) and I use it everywhere and turn it and I just move it a lot but should I worry about getting it bricked or at least losing my data???
and why in these videos and forums that I've checked people where saying:"Be extra careful with every HDD that is around" but actually you don't lose your data that easily.(note that I've dropped the external drive a few times as I said before)
sorry for long letters that I'm replying to you :)
What about Panasonic's dual layered LCDs. That tech is interesting.
Now I want coffee. Damnit Linus
It is NOW time for you to bring your take on it.. 2021 is here
Thanks Linus!
I still have a 2008 LG LCD tv... I am in need of a new tv. Maybe not this one, but something nice... what's a good tv for 400-500 range?
Hi guys. I'm out of topic but can you help me how to shut down computer properly?
I have a avr and power supply and I want to know after shutting down do I need to turn off the psu then off the avr or let the psu on then off the avr. Thanks
Please respect. :)
The thing is: if their price range is the same (or bigger) than OLED's, than just go for OLED.
Uhrmm. burn in!
Hair looking good Linus!
Gabriel hosting techquickie once again!
That would be nice for VR too.
I very much doubt this can remain competitive with OLED for very long. LG's panels are already price competitive with high end LCD panels, and LG also has massive margins compared to those panels (indicating that the price of the panel is likely already cheaper than high end LCDs). With having to pick and place (I assume there's a better method for 25,000 though, some sort of shaker?) all those parts, having lower yields due to QC, and needing a new faster controller, I don't see how this can remain price competitive with OLED, except in maybe some niche markets where burn-in is actually an issue
lovin my oled so far
so it's LCD with MiniLED backlighting/LocalDimming?
Correct me if I’m wrong
MiniLED: successor of lcd / lcd backlit lcd
MicroLED: successor of OLED (including Amoled)
What? A MacBook Pro in the sponsor ad??? LINUS HOW COULD YOU?!?!
Dlp led projectors pretty much do what micro led does...it just uses tiny mirrors for each pixel that move back and forth to catch 3 colored leds(rgb) always beamed at them. For black they flip down catching no light so you get 10,000:1 contrast ratios and on the good projectors full color reproduction....almost no lag and no way to burn in a still image since its a mirror. I had red burn out on my rear projection tv and swapped it out for a new led on a chip...even had to apply thermal paste to it. I also use it with nvidias 3d glasses to game in 3d. Mines running at 120hz but i think the 4k projectors run higher and are way cheaper than oled.
Linus: "Mini versions of things have historically proven to be quite popular..."
Micro-USB: *Laughs in disbelieve...*
4:00
he dropped the word "as" in "as fast as possible" if you were wondering"
1:01
I don't think mini LEDs are the same as the displays shown at this time stamp. Those are the IPS panels that have what I call the dreaded IPS glow from the edge lit panels.
excellent video
i used to think 4k is a waste of money but when i got a 4k tv it's true that there's a big difference you can't see in videos, colors are more vibrant and graphics look crisp when you're playing games it's amazing.
Sticking to my CRT until they become affordable.
Dude c'mon get an LCD
Is it just me or does Linus' voice sound much healthier than it has for some time.
My Heart: micro LED
My brain: mini LED
My wallet: Texas instruments T3000p graphing calculator
what about Sony Full Array LED, they also consider local boosting with dimming together, but they didn't mention how many zone they got on their TV.
i like that you use metric system
I so want some Tim Hortons Boston Cream Donuts, a Bagel belt and a XL black coffee...
woah im extra early. weee! Linus btw will you do an transparent proxy server guide? Like squid for example. I want to do one for url filtering
Yoo this guy looks like that linus tips guy
The missing word is "have" 3:55
haha, I rewatched few time too to find it
Explain?
@@KomiksPakesShow Linus says he may even do the whole thing instead of leaving a word out. The word he left out is "have"
That cyberpunk car looks awesome
I just wish OLED won't be overtaken before I get the chance to get an OLED TV.
It's like they're doing their best at finding an alternative to OLED instead of focusing on improving or reducing the cost of OLED TVs.
I just upgraded to an oled 55 inch C9 only thing I'm buying this year lul it's been awesome
I hear that, I'm still rocking a 50" Samsung Plasma from 10 years ago which still looks better than current LCD panels
I mean if you can find a way to get the same benefits as OLED without the risk of burn in or degradation, wouldn't you want that? And wouldn't we all want that if it ended up being cheaper to produce so more people can have access to a technology on par or better than expensive OLED? Don't get me wrong I don't know a ton about this stuff, I just know that burn in has been one of the main reasons I haven't used any of my saved money for a nice OLED TV or monitor.
They need to replace them, because the blue diodes die off too quickly.
@@idefyu23 even better than Samsung QLED? Doubt (x)
Can someone please explain why we need those zones at all? I don't get it. Why not control the backlight LEDs individually as if they were an OLED panel? Are they not bright enough?
3:05 Why show a Mini-LED problem news when you're sharing problem news about Micro-LED? 🤨🤯
What about refresh rate / motion blur?
Yeah, this looks a lot more promising than OLED! I mean, OLED has a fantastic image and all, but man is it expensive! OLED doesn't seem to be coming down in price anytime soon. MiniLED might take a year or two, but it LOOKS like the price should come down relatively quick. Since, you know, this is a fairly well-understood technology that many companies should be able to produce, and all that.
So mini LEDs are still "LED backlit LCDs", the LEDs just got much smaller that they're now the size of a pixel.
How is that new? Weren't LEDs already very small? Isn't that how we got OLED displays?
Yes, but Organic LEDs tend to burn and wear out fast.
@@slowanddeliberate6893 and how won't these burn out? They're LEDs as well
@@AhmadSattout97 They're not organic. LED backlights don't wear out anywhere near as fast as the self-emissive organic LEDs used in OLED panels.
@@slowanddeliberate6893 false the burn in is quite hard to get unless you see a lot of hours in a row with bright and static image, like the score point of a soccer match
@@tizzi91able The OLEDs not only can burn, but they also start to lose their brightness over time.
I'm skeptical. I can't even watch regular local dimming TVs, needing to turn that feature off on in the menu to get any enjoyment.
Besides the "aura" effect, you can literally *see* or feel the luminosity difference in the active zones, even if they do match up well with the on screen content. It's a distracting effect and I don't envision it getting better until microLED
Continue to be skeptical. What you have is a TV with too few local dimming zones, with really aggressive software turning it on unnecessarily. Your TV might have 50-100 local dimming zones, tops.
These Mini-LED sets will be 3,000+ easily. Something that small turning on and off is way less noticeable.
@@RicochetForce I realize this but I don't think it's going to be unnoticeable until it's close to pixel for pixel
@@JD-mz1rl Again, it doesn't matter what you think.
Beyond a certain threshold human beings can't perceive tiny changes in luminance or chrominance. We're talking minute voltage changes causing minute changes in brightness. To your eyes it would simply look like a richer, more contrasted image compared to older TVs.
@@RicochetForce we can see it with current local dimming zones, because there aren't enough.
Have you tested and verified the number of zones required to be undetedectable by human perception? If not, then STFU about what "I think" vs what "you think", which has not been shown in this conversation to have any more validity.
Yet people will pay £3k on a 85inch tv like this nope ile wait for microled because it’s the only one that is like a oled but better and probably more expensive in the meantime
bright objects glowing in a dark scene, is an issue with local dimming on led displays, lol thought that was intended as a eyrie or awe inspiring affect
The link to the micro led video at the start of the video is broken.
So now we can expect a Mini Linus near future...
Wait for the AMD version...