Hydraulics and integrated Haptics starting at 599€? | Conspit CPP-Lite Pedal Review
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- Опубликовано: 2 июл 2024
- Today we are having a look at the excellent Conspit CPP-Lite Pedals - great pedals with one flaw!
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0:00 Short Review
0:11 Specs, Price, Build Quality
3:00 Closer Look Throttle
4:08 Closer Look Clutch
5:07 Closer Look Brake
9:15 Software
16:07 On the Track
23:52 Verdict
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In relationship to springs, I enjoy my VRS. Since I have them I forgot about looking out for pedals.
Great review. I am glad I went with the P1000. It comes with springs, so no damping feel
Nice job my friend !!! Like always 😉
great video . i would love a video that shows the backround wheels wall =D
Very good review again Dan :) I have a set og cpp.lite and feel the dampening on the brake as well. But sometimes also a bit of notchyness on the brake. Just a tiny bit when trailing. Perhaps thats what you also felt? How much pressure did you drive with? think I am around 60 bar
Friction/damping feeling in the brake was the main reason i sold my p2000 and went huensinkveld ultimates . Just couldnt get used to it ever after having my p2000 for over a year. Couldnt be happier now
they also offer perf package separate with elastomers and also offer the whole metal body and even fancy blocker with led in front of the pedals if you want to pay extra for these things.
The conspit doesnt have them but under reseller the italian reseller has them. Also the reseller only few km from my home is the official swiss reseller. they are selling them for 569chf all 3 peddals set. Thats unbeatable price for such a peddal set. I use them for two almost two months now - for me is really great. i‘m new to sim racing and i also use the simhub version. I could not ask for more… just as you said more adjustability. just imagine they would have physical adjustability like xp1 - they would be perfect. but also like this for me - amazing.
Great video as always, would you review the p1 mistral ? I would like to have your opinion on it
yes, coming next :) tldr: great pedals, haptics could be better
I never ever buy a Pedalset, where I can’t change the pedalangle. Tried that on P1000 and never got a good feeling, because I had to lift the front too much, to get a comfortable point for me.
Haptics look like an improved version of what you get on the Fanatec CSP V3.
Almost went with conspit, but its hard to beat european engineering, so i went with Simgrade vx pro.
I’ve had fanetec cal elites, Asetek fortes and then these for about a week.
There is a distinct difference from load cell. Not better not worse. They just feel softer and much easier to trail brake.
Solid, decent pedals for the price.
But I had the opportunity to try before buying so that was a plus.
For me, I think they have a better feel to them but will probs forget about it in a month and still won’t be able to nail the braking points…😂😂
Asetek Forte are not proper loadcell - they measure travel only, a good set of load cell pedals works just as well - that being said, nothing wrong with using hydraulics of course
@@DanSuzuki please do your research. They have 100kg load cell and are in fact load cell.
If you are going to publish content, you have an absolute responsibility to fact check as many here will be looking at you for guidance when making purchase decisions.
Check my review of the forte, they use a tiny loadcell to measure the travel, not the load 😅 Here is more info: ruclips.net/video/lRdGqPm6jOA/видео.html
@@DanSuzuki I’m sorry Dan, I still stand by my comment. You stated ‘not a proper load cell’… A pedal that measures any pressure is a load cell.
Take for instance the csl elites. They measure the tiny movement and flex of the pedal arm itself.
There is no such thing as a defined and ‘proper’ load cell pedal. Each is a variation on a theme.
@@Brundlesim Correct, but the Forte don't measure pressure. Take out the Elastomers -> you get the same output. Put in a solid Elastomer -> no more output. Check the video and you'll agree ;) Many other manufacturs use a similar technology on throttle and clutch to measure the travel with a loadcell, this approach doesn't belong in a brake though.
haha mine will arrive in few hours
tested for several hours. AC Nordschleife Tourist.
Surely no comparison to my Moza pedals.
BUT when trailing off the brake slowly it kinda get stuck and does not release cleanly.
SInce i am more of a spring guy i just took the "shitty" already crumbly elastomer, or better to say plasticy brick and replaced it with a hard srping.
Just from first impressions and pressing the brake pedal it feels way more responsive and does not release in a unsmooth behavior (no steps anymore like stairs and now smooth line in the telemetry).
Will report back after my next session with the new spring
Will also delete the second elastomer
Put the elastomers back in.
I made some adjustments to the one that was crumbling a bit.
Added some hydraulic oil, it wasn't completely full. Transported the remaining air out.
Then i properly added bearing grease (firmer consistency) to the axle with the spacers and elastomers. Now everything slips and the brakes doesn't stutter like it did in the beginning.
I don't have a spring inside either, as it feels the best as it was intended from Conspit.
Great review as always, Dan!
It's very good to see the increasing competition on the market seemingly starts to have a customer friendly impact on prices. Although I have to say I am not sure if a plastic pedal tray is really a good way to save money in production - or if it is cheaper than a metal plate at all. The only benefit in my opinion is: it's easier to put in to the shape you want as the designer of the product. Asetek has molded aluminium pedal base plates, which is arguably a considerable cost factor - that was also mentioned by their CEO in some of their videos. But yeah... even though those pedals have a more 'lower' price I would prefer a metal plating instead of plastic...
In terms of the brake pedal or the way to measure the force in general: I think you're right. Hydraulic systems are just a 'fancier' way to measure the brake force... and I think none are doing it any way better or more realistic than 'conventional' load cell brake pedals. Even in a road car you don't 'feel' the hydraulic, you simply can notice a difference between brake resistance wether the car is running or the engine is off... due to the brake booster. Maybe I overheard it, but I think you don't mention it wether this is the case for these pedals or not: the only advantage of a hydraulic system in my opinion is, that you can build a two stage system, which I as a Asetek Invicta user really do appreciate... but it is also doable with load cell brakes, as proven by some companies on the market.
But again, like the simagic pedals a very good option for people stepping up into the high-end region (if you put Simucube Active Pedals out of the equation). And they really look good and thus are also a great option for all people who dislike laser cut bright steel plate DIYish pedals... which I kind of do I must admit... VRS pedals are well designed and there is a 'hype' going for the Nuo Simulation pedals... but honestly, these days with so many pedal sets with solid one-piece pedal arms, looking more like real pedals, being painted or anodized and thus way more 'decent' in their looks... but this also contributes to the fact: there are more very good devices in more and more variations to choose from... a great time to be a sim racer (with a good salary at least, hehehe).
There is a elastomers kit.. tz sim
Wow, a microsoft flight simulator streamer who does Simracing.
I'm speechless
Sorry I might be a bit slow and idk if ur joking but I only know him from sim racing🙏💀
@@That3321 It's a joke. :P
Pushing on a elastomer in a metal tube and trying to move it inside - sounds like a lot of friction to me. Thx for the review :)
elastomers on open designs tend to break, so is a balance
No, for sim racing, a linear spring is all you need.
no, for simracing, you dont NEED pedals, just a joystick. See how needs works?
Technically you just need a mouse.
Race room has it.
Left button to go, right to brake.
Auto gears.
Would probably be smoother then a pads j-stick.
Warthunder airbattles are surprisingly playable with mouse
First :)
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I cannot agree with you when you say for this price plastic is OK. No way for that price should have plastic in the base !
yes but do take into consideration the hydraulic brake and the haptic motors
"under the hood" it's reinforced with metal. of course a full metal construction would be nice, but for 599€ for hydraulic pedals including a pedalplate I think it's absolutely fine. a metal heelplate will not feel any better, it will only look better and give you a better feeling in your head :D Conspit also has the CPP (without lite) pedals ... they look like full metal? not sure though since the website is absolutely terrible.
You are dramatizing a lot