Press Conference after Game 5 | 2024 FIDE World Championship Match

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  • Опубликовано: 3 дек 2024

Комментарии • 155

  • @Pacalolo04
    @Pacalolo04 3 дня назад +74

    Disgusting attitude of Maurice towards Ding! Totally disrespectuful and demeaning. He berates Ding for not playing another line that was equally drawish but the engine says slightly better, a tiny micro detail that is extremely difficult for a human to see over the board. For Maurice it’s easy because he’s there, with his feet up, looking at the engine. He’s so much into engines that he has come to believe he is Mr. Stockfish or something. Playing chess is something else.
    And if he hates drawish lines so much, why didn’t he scold Guskesh as well for playing the hyper drawish French Exchange? Yet, not a word on that. He doesn't mess with Gukesh (too many Indian fans who would fry him), he messes with Ding. By now, he knows who to mess with and who not to mess with. He once dared try to belittle Carlsen, the best player of all time, for not being as "smooth" as his engine, and he regretted it for a long time. Magnus stopped him dead on his tracks and put him in his place right on the spot, comme il faut. Ding is too much of a gentleman to deal with such disrespect properly. But Maurice is way out of line; simply put, he should not be there.

    • @farhanahmed7477
      @farhanahmed7477 3 дня назад +10

      I don’t like this guy right from the beginning. His attitude is questionable.

    • @ndnd7614
      @ndnd7614 3 дня назад +2

      Maurice is absolutely right. Ding didn’t even want to play chess he showed up with a pawn up endgame and decided to call it a day. What a joke

    • @pratiksinghal8791
      @pratiksinghal8791 3 дня назад +1

      Do you know when did the Carlsen owning Maurice incident happened ?

    • @junepark9591
      @junepark9591 3 дня назад +4

      Couldn't agree more.

    • @bloody_me_put-in
      @bloody_me_put-in 3 дня назад

      Simply put...Maurice is a bully

  • @FAonYoutube
    @FAonYoutube 3 дня назад +116

    I think people should calm down on the criticism of Ding, which borders on disrespect. We don't have all the information, especially concerning his state of mind. As a fan of Ding, I've been incredibly frustrated by his play in the last year and a half of course. But he silenced everyone with his win in Game 1 and he might do it again.

    • @IYsadhanO
      @IYsadhanO 3 дня назад +6

      Actually, it was not his own win. It was given to him, on silver platter.

    • @sourcedirect4467
      @sourcedirect4467 3 дня назад +12

      Couldn't agree more. All these 800 elos couldn't even fathom how difficult these games are . Get real

    • @MalsawmkimaKhawlhring
      @MalsawmkimaKhawlhring 3 дня назад +4

      I feel like Ding is a little bit stronger in terms of pure chess... but mentally he seems not ready... And that's why Gukesh i think will have an edge over him because Gukesh is very calm and mentally healthy which goes a long way in chess... But anything can happen... lets continue to watch next games for now...

    • @VIVEKSINGH-vz1ws
      @VIVEKSINGH-vz1ws 3 дня назад +1

      A person who is in difficult state the world make his life more difficult by commenting every now and then . This is disrespect for the game . I also did not like that Gukesh do not calmly accept his defeat and saying it happened because I feel nervous like Carlsen in worl championship . The thing that you mean the other guy win only because you are not in good shape is disrespect of other player's win .

    • @MrFootofDavros
      @MrFootofDavros 3 дня назад +2

      Agreed. A lot of Hikaru speed run fans on here who hadn't watched any chess pre 2020 now think they know it all. No knowledge that Ding was one of the top players for years and thus can only hand out disrespect whilst rooting for a TT muppet who's never had a sniff of being in the WC match.

  • @paololuckyluke2854
    @paololuckyluke2854 3 дня назад +32

    This sort of discussion would sound so much better if everybody involved hadn’t already consulted the computers!

    • @J.J.J.J.J.J.J
      @J.J.J.J.J.J.J 3 дня назад +2

      lol, so true. All these internet commenters just not considering the experience of playing in one of these games, let alone the 5th game of defending.... what are they thinking to question them that way.

  • @崔祖曦
    @崔祖曦 3 дня назад +27

    We should not involve the AI in the press conference. It's unfair to criticize two top-5 for a minor mistake after four hours of intense mental effort. I agree that Ding had a chance to win in the final few moves, but I don’t blame him at all for settling for a draw. I’m also surprised that Gukesh played G4, which gave Ding an opportunity to win. However, I respect this move for showing aggression, rather than opting for a more conservative move.

    • @mubaraksenju7521
      @mubaraksenju7521 3 дня назад

      That g4 move is fine. It's the variations afterwards that's sharp and give chances to both players. Engine likes the move g4. It's NOT a blunder. The only blunder of Gukesh is d5. Ding missed his chance, but that's fine. I think we can all agree that these 2 are not as crazy good as Fabi-Magnus, but definitely much better matchup than Nepo-Ding. That one is just hard to watch. But that's also fine, as Nepo has always been the player who has good intuition, just that it doesn't work his way all the time. And yes, I agree with your opinion to not involve AI. If they wanna analyze these moves, they should do it together WITHOUT AI intervention. If Ashley, Hess, Judit missed it, then we can all agree that it's fine that Ding and Gukesh missed it. Edit: just grammar

    • @HeySenthil
      @HeySenthil 3 дня назад +1

      Agree! Ding is doing fine! One can see both under-evaluated the position at various times. That's how the game is supposed to go. A perfect game of chess is a draw.

  • @vanshchamria5521
    @vanshchamria5521 3 дня назад +9

    I feel it’s important to be respectful towards both players even while having a favourite. I support Gukesh but that doesn’t make me respect Ding less. And looking at him he seems like a good guy calm and respectful.

  • @MrFootofDavros
    @MrFootofDavros 3 дня назад +92

    Some idiots on the live chat, so just to clarify:-
    Ding is the REAL WC. Magnus withdrew from the process and therefore may be Elo ranked no. 1 but that does not make him the "real" WC.
    Anand played in the 2012 match as World no. 4 vs no. 20. He was still the REAL WC as well as current rankings are irrelevant to participation in the match. You need to be in the championship cycle, as the champion or the Candidates winner, hence Ding being here as the WC and Gukesh as the challenger.
    It's that simple.

    • @FAMOUSFORCOMMENTING-x2x
      @FAMOUSFORCOMMENTING-x2x 3 дня назад +4

      yaa dont focus on comments by newbie - instead win a match

    • @ElShogoso
      @ElShogoso 3 дня назад +4

      WC after Magnus withdrew is a historically meaningless title. Even Kasparov said so. A "world championship" that does not decide who the strongest player in the world is, is just another title.

    • @Xi-op7gg
      @Xi-op7gg 3 дня назад +19

      @@ElShogosoBut then why have a WCC at all? Just go with the FIDE rating and every month, whoever has the highest rating, is the world champion.

    • @elawchess
      @elawchess 3 дня назад +11

      @@ElShogoso You can only play against whose put before you. What if Magnus totally quit chess and didn't want to play anymore. Would that then make the subsequent matches by other meaningless? It seems you haven't really thought this through and you seem to be parroting it simply because "Kasparov said it".

    • @melh937
      @melh937 3 дня назад +12

      ​@@ElShogosoBased on that logic, Kasparov was never WC, since he beat Karpov for the title-the same Karpov who got the title for free after Fisher retired from chess. Didn't even have to play a WC match.
      In conclusion, Kasparaov isn't very smart. And neither are you.

  • @nitd955
    @nitd955 3 дня назад +25

    I love both of them so as an Indian I ideally want Gukesh to win but I can cope Ding winning it again as he is really nice and cute🎉

    • @abhishekbaruah7272
      @abhishekbaruah7272 3 дня назад

      Gay

    • @imperfectmammal2566
      @imperfectmammal2566 3 дня назад +3

      @@abhishekbaruah7272consider me gay if I like a player. 1930s mindset

    • @eddygiron2390
      @eddygiron2390 3 дня назад

      @abhishekbaruah7272 There's NOTHING gay when a man describes another man properly and Liren IS a nice person which can make him look cute as well, probably unlike you. ENVY is making you type stupid comments.

    • @billionairemindset1908
      @billionairemindset1908 3 дня назад

      ​@@abhishekbaruah7272nobody asked about ur gender

  • @ashesds1
    @ashesds1 3 дня назад +48

    Maurice needs to get off his high horse. It sometimes feels as if he is almost interrogating the players with the tone he uses. Both of the players would like adopt him in a game of chess and it’s not a proper way of interviewing your much more accomplished and talented peers.

    • @stevenjohnston2263
      @stevenjohnston2263 3 дня назад +6

      No doubt these press conferences are contractually obligatory, but they are really painful to watch. It's simply wrong that these guys have to do them. And as for Maurice..........

    • @jeremyhuffman101
      @jeremyhuffman101 3 дня назад

      I don't think the questions are asked in bad faith by Maurice. He just thinks the answer might be interesting - the details of what the player missed add context to our understanding the game as it was played.

    • @stevenjohnston2263
      @stevenjohnston2263 3 дня назад +2

      @jeremyhuffman101 Maybe not. But they are terrible nonetheless. To be fair, he's not alone in asking terrible questions. But there are ways and ways of asking, and his way is pretty bad.

    • @ndnd7614
      @ndnd7614 3 дня назад +1

      @@ashesds1 how is Maurice wrong? Also given how ding plays I would be surprised if ding offered Maurice a draw 😭

    • @terencedavidson1251
      @terencedavidson1251 2 дня назад

      Lot of Maurice haters here….hmmmm, I wonder why?

  • @Zwellop
    @Zwellop 3 дня назад +30

    22:32 ball knowledge

    • @J.J.J.J.J.J.J
      @J.J.J.J.J.J.J 3 дня назад +1

      Love it. What a cool response by Ding.

    • @snide1574
      @snide1574 2 дня назад

      he is juventus fan

  • @dhruvshukla280
    @dhruvshukla280 3 дня назад +15

    Some were laughing on chess base stream when he said he liked his opponent game back in 2019 remarking "As a kid" I enjoyed his game .He was not WRONG CURRENTLY HE IS JUST 18 YRS OLD IN 2014 SO BACK HE WAS A KID😢

  • @mubaraksenju7521
    @mubaraksenju7521 3 дня назад +23

    Maurice Ashley is the last person you wanna be as a speaker for post-game press conference. He's always asking dumb questions and making things awkward. Thank God they just drew the game. I remember in Nepo-Carles conference. So awkward, humiliating and dumb. I pity the players. They played really well, win or lose.

  • @prithvirajgaur6832
    @prithvirajgaur6832 3 дня назад +3

    Federico Cheisa damn!!

  • @jihawk33
    @jihawk33 3 дня назад +5

    I think Ding will win the match. Gukesh clearly is nervous. Wishing best for both.

  • @elijahgoverdun5704
    @elijahgoverdun5704 3 дня назад +15

    Can someone ask Maurice to tone it down?

  • @atulkotwal
    @atulkotwal 3 дня назад +16

    2:30 Maurice is intimidating in Morpheous style.

  • @sarrystylesofficial
    @sarrystylesofficial 3 дня назад +10

    Maurice’s tone is unnecessarily harsh and in my opinion he should be more respectful towards the players.

  • @traceler
    @traceler 3 дня назад +3

    Ding is getting more confident and Gukesh fail to impress, so the more draw the more danger of Ding Liren taking over .

  • @kalarojas506
    @kalarojas506 3 дня назад +1

    Go Ding 🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @akshikayadav1091
    @akshikayadav1091 3 дня назад +2

    His smile at 12.21 is just a miracle.
    Once in a blue moon😂

  • @persianney
    @persianney 3 дня назад +7

    Don't hire deaf people as audio engineer, FIDE.

  • @loodakris5928
    @loodakris5928 3 дня назад +2

    Ding said Lamar Odom. What a baller!

  • @ramprasadpanja5450
    @ramprasadpanja5450 3 дня назад +4

    Its ding... he knows all

  • @chbill5848
    @chbill5848 3 дня назад +12

    Why was maurice so pissed?

    • @lennymarshall7699
      @lennymarshall7699 2 дня назад +1

      Because he can bully Ding and get away with it.Ding is not going to say meet me at the chessboard if you think you know what you are talking about.

    • @mathistruth9105
      @mathistruth9105 2 дня назад

      Maybe they made fun of his balled head earlier

  • @anindyaganguly5243
    @anindyaganguly5243 2 дня назад +2

    Who are you Maurice? Ding’s abusive Dad?

  • @glenrocha3377
    @glenrocha3377 3 дня назад +2

    Nice we got a Translator!

  • @abritt5223
    @abritt5223 3 дня назад +4

    Someone needs to calm Ding down. The guy is practically frothing at the mouth

  • @andy0519
    @andy0519 3 дня назад +8

    This press conferences are cringe, boring and with so many useless questions. First they shouldnt be interviewed together, secondly there shouldnt be questions from Maurice, who is just so bad at making them and communicating with the players. Besides all the questions about openings, training, seconds, what are you expecting? they are not gonna say nothing of importance about their strategy and preparation for this match. How can FIDE mess up everything they do? No intention to make the game grow or make it interesting for all the new fans chess has from the past years

    • @mubaraksenju7521
      @mubaraksenju7521 3 дня назад +2

      IKR!! But this is fine compared to Magnus-Nepo conference. Maurice Ashley is dumb and annoying. I just don't like him. I'd prefer Yasser Seirawan or Fabi or other nice chess players as a speaker.

  • @GoranRadic
    @GoranRadic 3 дня назад +7

    I was reminded how much I always hated the engine GM Maurice Ashley and his genuine chess wisdom.

    • @mubaraksenju7521
      @mubaraksenju7521 3 дня назад +3

      I hate Maurice Ashley. He's annoying and always asks dumb questions. This one is quite fine. Magnus-Nepo is the worst ever. Very awkward and hard to watch the press conference. I pity the players ngl.

  • @gaurangasamaddar7737
    @gaurangasamaddar7737 3 дня назад

    Gukesh must concetrate his game. He must go through uncommon opening with white piece.He must be cool within 64 squares.Tension may arise in the game but Gukesh always keep in mind no tension in the mind.

  • @GAMEKING51
    @GAMEKING51 3 дня назад +2

    Is this a compliment battle?

  • @gilachess
    @gilachess 2 дня назад

    WHAT?? Ding didn't see Be6 aand Rc8???

  • @mathistruth9105
    @mathistruth9105 2 дня назад

    Don't see what Maurice Ashley did wrong here. Asking about Bc6 vs Bh5 is a perfectly legitimate question. Nothing emotional about it.

  • @jonnydrivet
    @jonnydrivet 3 дня назад

    We always need a wwc match even with the other #1. Its historical

  • @vladtepes1308
    @vladtepes1308 3 дня назад +5

    @FIDE please ban Maurice Ashley. He was so rude.

  • @jayakishore565
    @jayakishore565 2 дня назад +1

    dude maurice!!! CHILL DOWN.GIVE THEM RESPECT!!!

  • @DreamWizard9
    @DreamWizard9 3 дня назад

    By the end of this match, I will have not learned anything chesswise, but I will know fluent Chinese! Thanks to that woman.

  • @chessnord7934
    @chessnord7934 3 дня назад +6

    Wow Maurice comes off as a real jerk! Unfortunate.

  • @M354gmDI
    @M354gmDI 2 дня назад

    Maurice Ashley questioning them like as if this is an interrogation in pretty ridiculous, easy for you to use an engine and ask your patronizing demanding questions. FIDE must do better.

  • @jonnydrivet
    @jonnydrivet 3 дня назад +1

    Ding wins

  • @mangaiarasi3584
    @mangaiarasi3584 2 дня назад

    Can egg half boil survive on Maurice's skull?🤔🤔🤔

  • @timeuwe4502
    @timeuwe4502 3 дня назад

    19:02

  • @CasperJ
    @CasperJ 3 дня назад +5

    2:01 "dont know why opponent didnt play e6", lmao gukesh playing the psychological game

    • @Chingbong1
      @Chingbong1 3 дня назад +1

      or he is stating the obvious

    • @CasperJ
      @CasperJ 3 дня назад +1

      @Chingbong1 is it not disrespectful?

    • @Chingbong1
      @Chingbong1 3 дня назад +1

      @@CasperJ depends on ding's emotional maturity if he takes it as disrespect or constructive criticism as a fellow player of the game.

    • @CasperJ
      @CasperJ 3 дня назад +1

      @@Chingbong1 im more thinking of the fact that gukesh talks about him in 3rd person in front of him, not so much the move itself

    • @Chingbong1
      @Chingbong1 3 дня назад +1

      @@CasperJ Maybe he didnt want to make it a personal thing to point out Ding's mistake but make it clear he only sees ding as his opponent nothing more nothing less

  • @markmcfarland2579
    @markmcfarland2579 3 дня назад

    So many soft people on here. Maurice sounds so mean ...😢
    😂😂😂
    All he's doing is asking chess questions in the most neutral tone ever. He hasn't berated anyone

  • @sarangs722
    @sarangs722 3 дня назад +2

    Ye Lappu sa Maurice. 2800 samajh raha khudko

  • @peanutbutter799
    @peanutbutter799 3 дня назад +1

    Audio guy drinking on the job smh

  • @Elo-hv3fw
    @Elo-hv3fw 3 дня назад

    Sanctions against Russia will invite the US state department to arrest anybody who plays against a Russian chess player.
    Japan is a very good example of how you cooperate with the US state department.
    This is why these two champions must never enter any US territory after they play against russian opponents. (see Bobby Fisher in a Japanese prison)

  • @rolandholban3778
    @rolandholban3778 2 дня назад +1

    Maurice is insufferable. He is extremely abrasive and lacks any finesse. Get this guy out commentary/interview booths

  • @mohitnahar2779
    @mohitnahar2779 3 дня назад +5

    maurice needs to get fired

  • @doedoe9307
    @doedoe9307 3 дня назад +1

    maurice needs to check himself. ding can lose 100 games in a row and be in historically poor form and still wipe the floor with him.

  • @hermanblinkhoven1856
    @hermanblinkhoven1856 3 дня назад +2

    Having to suffer GM Maurice´s pompous virtue signalling after every game... In the future, let's have a candidates tournament for commentators.

  • @tommytan7408
    @tommytan7408 3 дня назад +3

    Does anyone here knows the payouts for this match format? You only get $200k for a Win; Zero for draw! So stop exchanging queens early and stop having opposite colour bishops for endgames...

    • @SanidhyTripathi-h8n
      @SanidhyTripathi-h8n 3 дня назад +1

      After all matches the remaining amount divided Btwn 2 so anyways they get thay money

    • @anandhrajan99
      @anandhrajan99 3 дня назад +4

      Overpressing in a drawish position is the stupidest thing to do. You'll wind up losing.

    • @Stonefalconetti
      @Stonefalconetti 3 дня назад

      Better drawing than losing.

    • @tommytan7408
      @tommytan7408 3 дня назад

      @SanidhyTripathi-h8n
      Didn't see this. Anyway, I think more agressive payouts is good for chess! Like 3 points for win and only 1 for draw.. Fide should deep dive into this system to encourage greater interest...

    • @SanidhyTripathi-h8n
      @SanidhyTripathi-h8n 3 дня назад

      @@tommytan7408 true

  • @alessandrodonadel9878
    @alessandrodonadel9878 3 дня назад

    Worst world cup match ever so far

  • @jhdgdyhi8
    @jhdgdyhi8 3 дня назад

    he blew it, no excuses.

  • @JJ-3721
    @JJ-3721 3 дня назад

    both are nice guys, none is a genius.

  • @MarcosBitachi
    @MarcosBitachi 3 дня назад +2

    Kasparov or Magnus would destroy either of these players. The gap in fighting spirit is at least two tiers apart.

    • @ManiS-wd2eu
      @ManiS-wd2eu 3 дня назад +16

      Still about old things. Even bobby can destroy magnus or anyone. So stop talking nonsense. Even magnus had played last Olympiad what he done for himself or his country, can't win it, it's same classic format. So don't talk rubbish things.
      Gukesh elo 2784 WCC challenger,
      Ding has unbeaten 100 matches records, still he is the champion.
      So respect the game and players, you hypocrites can't tolerate the Asians winning and holding the WCC title, this time Olympiad both men and women team wins the individual and team gold. So keep dreaming about the old things, will remain there, the world moves on without you people. If you don't have respect for the game, you people should quit watching the matches after magnus quits the game.

    • @ManiS-wd2eu
      @ManiS-wd2eu 3 дня назад

      Still about old things. Even bobby can destroy magnus or anyone. So stop talking nonsense. Even magnus had played last Olympiad what he done for himself or his country, can't win it, it's same classic format. So don't talk rubbish things.
      Gukesh elo 2784 WCC challenger,
      Ding has unbeaten 100 matches records, still he is the champion.
      So respect the game and players, you hypocrites can't tolerate the Asians winning and holding the WCC title, this time Olympiad both men and women team wins the individual and team gold. So keep dreaming about the old things, will remain there, the world moves on without you people. If you don't have respect for the game, you people should quit watching the matches after magnus quits the game.

    • @MarcosBitachi
      @MarcosBitachi 3 дня назад +2

      ​@@ManiS-wd2eu I need to stop talking nonsense, but you can say whatever you want? Why's that?

    • @monarkjain613
      @monarkjain613 3 дня назад +2

      ​@@ManiS-wd2eu the irony of you telling someone else to stop talking nonsense 😂😂

    • @eddygiron2390
      @eddygiron2390 3 дня назад

      @@MarcosBitachi So I have a bigger fighting spirit when it comes to arguing people than you do, both on internet and in person, does that automatically makes me the best at making arguments? NO, it does not, so the same applies to your logic. Fighting spirit counts for very little in chess when piece position on the board tells you otherwise. Once Nakamura fighting spirit pushed him to not concede draw to Carlsen and everybody mocked him for it, so as you can see, there's no point in taking that aspect of the game as an essential argument to disregard the quality of play displayed by Liren and Gukesh.
      Or by talking about fighting spirit you're referring to the face expression and overall physical demeanor displayed by a chess player? Because if that's the case, Carlsen has NO fighting spirit in his physiognomy, he practically refuses to watch at his opponents eyes and has a very bland face that projects no character at all, and you're going to tell us Carlsen is worth more than Gukesh or Liren? That's nonsense right there mate. Kasparov yes, Carlsen never, that's the reality.
      However, this is not a wrestling contest or a football match, that type of attributes do not matter in chess.

  • @MarkNingthem
    @MarkNingthem 3 дня назад +1

    Boring games not worthy of world championships 😢

    • @Deerjason
      @Deerjason 3 дня назад

      Well to be fair, not everyone is Magnus who takes a slight advantage into a 100 move endgame. Confidence plays a big role; Ding clearly wanted a draw as he isn’t fully confident in himself yet. He won the world championship by refusing a draw against Nepo in an equal position, but obviously Ding hasn’t been Ding for a while.

    • @mubaraksenju7521
      @mubaraksenju7521 3 дня назад +2

      Ikr! Magnus-Fabi is the better one, though every game ended in a draw (which is also boring). We want action. We want crazy sacrifices and taking up chances. The problem is that this is WCC and the stakes are VERY high.

    • @eddygiron2390
      @eddygiron2390 3 дня назад +1

      Well, Magnus vs Caruana and Magnus vs Nepo were extremely boring too, with probably just 2 matches in each tournament that really sticks out as very interesting.
      Problem is not on the players per se, it's because of the AI era we live in, almost all there is to know about lines is known to players, and the engines makes it look even worse. THAT'S the reality.

  • @IYsadhanO
    @IYsadhanO 3 дня назад +1

    This time, its Gukesh 🎉🎉🎉🎉

    • @terencedavidson1251
      @terencedavidson1251 2 дня назад

      @@IYsadhanO maybe you should be his second?

    • @IYsadhanO
      @IYsadhanO День назад

      @terencedavidson1251 he is already around great support system.