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★ CFMOTO 650 GT REVIEW ★
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- Опубликовано: 16 апр 2021
- A review on the great value cfmoto 650gt
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CF Moto is a partner to KTM and the twin engine here is a little more powerful than the kawa actually.
Another good review of a little known bike. They're coming thick and fast now. Great work Mark.
Thank you Mark for your time & efforts bringing us these reviews. I would say your one of the best reviewers giving us a real life view of your impressions. I must visit the Cfmoto dealer near me.
Thanks my pleasure :)
If you are not in sales, then it's a pity. Another enjoyable review, and full of info, but with enough periods of quiet for us to enjoy the 'experience'. If established manufacturers fail to raise their game, or lower their prices, then they are surely going to feel the pinch from these upcoming brands. Either way we still benefit. I must just mention the panniers. What a sensible move from CFMOTO, full credit to them. I think I will pay Tin Shack a visit.
Thanks Jim ....they have both to demo ... regards mark
obviously there's no competetor for the 650 GT. the ninja 650 is way more aggressive an the next sport touring bike that features such a comfort is the kawa s1000sx, coming up with a price way higher (but it's unfair to compare a 650 to a 1000 bike).
comfortable sports tourer seems to be for old rich men that can effort spending tentousends of dollars in a absolutely nonsense powerfull bike like the R and K line of BMW or the fancy line of Honda.
the 650GT seems to fill a gap between old and rich men and the average drivers that just try to have fun without destroing their backs. a great bike and i cant wait to get mine. thanks for this awesome review!
Many thanks 👍
That TFT screen is a real bonus and along with the low Seat height definitely a bike I will be looking at if I ever get to take my big bike test.
Excellent review, your reviews are some of the best on the tube, honest no bull.....
Thanks David ...yes these cfmoto bikes are brilliant for the money :)
Cheers mark
Looks like the missing bike in the bike world, a mid weight touring bike. Good find Mark.
thanks ..its a lovely bike to ride regards mark
A shame CFMoto don't export their 650TR-G to more places. That's a lovely looking mid weight tourer.
@@jeffveraart2695 yes agreed Jeff
Regards mark
i know im asking randomly but does anybody know of a method to get back into an Instagram account?
I somehow forgot the login password. I appreciate any assistance you can offer me.
@Jaxtyn Crew Instablaster ;)
Nice review buddy. I live in Thailand and have seen a few about - Been a "Big Four" brand guy for 35+ years and have ridden pretty much everything from Japan. I am digging these 'new' brands and will certainly try one of these. Your review only solidified that wish. Thank you.
Thanks Anthony .... lovely place to live for you ...yes these are good bikes
Cheers mark
Been looking at one of these for a while think you've made my mind up to go get it now 👍🏼
Thanks Brian ....yes these are great vfm....you can't go wrong
All the best mark
I've just started looking into CFMoto and this video is not doing my wallet any good, haha. This looks like a cracking bike and I just might go ahead and buy one. Nice in-depth review, thank you Mark!
Many thanks Eduard
Great review as always.. These CFMoto bikes are amazing value..
Thanks Pete ...I really enjoyed riding these and the quality seems good
Cheers mark
great review keep em coming mark.
Great review Mark. FYI the weights that you are quoting for the MT and GT are dry weights.
Another good review Mark, and it's good see your reviewing these bikes. Unfortunately im old enough to remember the 1970s when our parents had Ford Cortinas... Back then Renault and Citreon cars were viewed similarly to how Chinese bikes are now. It's only a matter of time until they become mainstream.
Thanks christopher ....yes I agree they are getting better ...I really enjoyed these :)
@@markpulling12 the price is attractive too, the MT is around £700 less than a CBX 500... I wonder if CF Moto offer PCP deals? These bikes could be affordable as a second bike / commuter.
Another nice test Mark, that way we are learning these brands as well.
Hi Jay ...yes these are great bikes for the money :)
@@markpulling12 Yesterday I needed to go to repair a laptop and I wanted to drive the Yamaha FZ1 Fazer. Just out of my garage it sprung as petrol leak. So I took the little Mash Falcone 125 and did my run on that one. 130km without a problem and it's Chinese as well.
Another great review Mark! I’m liking you doing what looks to be the same route so your comparisons are mutual. Another great bike by CFMoto. I wish the MT could have the TFT from the GT to make the look modern. Great work Mark!
Thanks Steve :)
Excellent video! Thank you Mark
Thanks ...I was equally as impressed with this as the mt ....just felt a little sportier ...but still with good touring ability
Need to try the n version now :)
Superb review Mark. Fantastic. Keep it up.
Thanks renato ! Best regards mark
great bike, had mine for 6 moths ,quality is up there, rides very well and is geat fun, low seat height and cotrols are perfect.
Cfmoto nk400 was my 1st bigbike and now versys650. That bike though was on top of the list then. Awesome value for money.
Yes I'm very impressed with them
Regards mark
Excellent review..looks quality and for the price thumbs up...thanks
ok no probs tony ...great bike :)
I’m definitely buying this
Good thing to note here in Australia the panniers are not stock with the bike.
Bought one love it
Looks very smart. 👍 Nice to see it hasn't followed the one eyed monster trend of bikes with two headlights. The rear disc looks a bit scored for 200 miles. Will have to get myself a go on one of these to see how it compares to the MT (I've long legs).
Thanks Mike ...give tinshack a call if you're in the south :)
Makes me wonder if the Versys 650 is due a TFT upgrade? :)
HI Dude nice review I’ve traded in my trk for a 22 model as I could not put up with the buzzy ride and the top heavy weight as I said to you I should have bought one of these from the start I now don’t have to punch myself head anymore 😊 bit more grunt and the 22 model has a tft with phone connectivity and panniers included 4 years warranty, 0% finance 👍🏻
Many thanks great choice 😊
Cheers mark
Thanks again for reviewing this bike, Mark. Not many have taken a look at CFMoto's bikes. That makes me wonder: what is the situation with spare parts? Are they easy to come by?
Thanks yes quadzilla in the uk carry the full stock of parts
Regards mark
Looks like a great bike just like the adventure version.
Not seen one otr yet though and not keen on short service intervals especially if dealer is not local.
Nice review. Thank you
Thanks 👍😊
Great vid again these bikes seem to very good value for money ,have you any idea of when the clx 700 is coming and you're review ,keep up your good work
Hi Steven no sorry not heard anything yet...I'll hopefully review one when they come out
Cheers mark
Have to admit I thought the front/side fairings looked a little cumbersome and bulbous. I checked the website and the black bike looks far better imo. Excellent review..... again
Thanks Mr bergs ...yes I bet the black would look great in the flesh :)
Moving on the opposing lanes as every other country in the world is really f-ing me up, I can't get over it :)))
Great job on the c f moto
Great review but we need a review with pillion and luggage loaded for t true idea of its capabilities
Just letting you know Mark. Just put a deposit down on this. Picking it up start of October. Can’t wait. Great review glad I made the choice.
Thanks Ashley ... great bike
Wise choice, mate. I've rode mine 650TK for 4 seasons, over 50000 km on odometer. Just sold it with 0 problems throughout my ownership. Very fun and reliable bike. My next one will be CFmoto as well :)
You won't be disappointed. I bought one 12 months ago but have not been able to do much touring so far - medical issues and Covid lockdown. Zero issues in 15000km, except for locking mechanism on Shad panniers. Shad replaced the locks with a new, simpler, stronger design. Overall, most comfortable bike I've owned and that's quite a few in the past 50+ years. I don't care about depreciation. I've learned over the years that you don't get much for a bike with over 100k kms on it which is when I tend to sell them. Its also why I refuse to pay big money for a bike. And I have no doubts that this bike will do the 100k km without a problem.
So, 6 months later how has it been?
@@yugmi really good. Only done just under 6000km but so far no issues. Love it.
Great review well done
Thanks Timothy
Thank you to m8
Hi Mark, another very nice review. I used to have a WK Bikes 650TR which was a U.K. rebranded CF Moto. Very similar bike but seems that have improved it even further with this most current offer. One question, CF Moto 650 GT or Benelli TRK 502, And what influenced your choice? Many thanks 👍
Hi Tony this exact question has been asked a few times lately ...for reliability I'd go cfmoto ...the Benelli is reliable but a close second .
Engine wise I actually preferred the Benelli its very smooth like a triple ,the cf650 is basically an er6 engine so more like a conventional twin ...I also found the benelli to be slightly more comfortable for me so for me personally the Benelli just wins
Cheers mark
Nice bike. Chinese makers are making good bikes with a fair price. Good review Simple and honest
Thanks filipe :)
Hi Mark . Another great review thanks : ) . Would this bike handle a pillion ok ?
Hi Russell yes no problem at all ,:)
Very nice! Looks like a great all-rounder that you can pile the miles on. Given it's mission as a light tourer, how is that pillion seat, how does it handle two-up, and does it have the option of cruise?
hi john sorry no cruise option as its a budget bike ,you could always use a throttle lock,and the pillion seat is quite comfortable regards mark
I hope they make one with the new 800 (750) engine. I prefer this style to the "adventure" style.
G'day mate, great video. I wanted to ask in regards to the exhaust. Do they make any after market slip on to make it a little louder?.
Not over the top noise.
Regards.cam
Hi Cameron yes I'm sure you can get aftermarket exhausts for these
Cheers mark
I wonder how reliable these bikes are in the long run. I'm not judging based on stereotypes because it's a Chinese brand or anything, But I still got my doubts in terms of quality and long term issues. Any thoughts on that?? I really like this bike! Looks awsome! Nice Review!
Hi ..I'm sure it will be fine over long term ...most of it is from a Kawasaki er6 and it seems well built :)
Regards mark
Good bike Nice Price
Does a tft screen hold up in cold conditions? After a freezing night, does it still operate or does it break down?
I never see how comfortable a bike is for a passenger in reviews, i need a 2 person bike. Any advice or just test drive? thanks in advance.
Hi yes TFT are fine after a cold night never had a problem...and yes this bike would be great for a passenger
Cheers mark
From the footage it seems quite ‘windy’ through your helmet; is the screen too low? Where was the wind hitting you?
Hi Clive I had the screen in the middle position...the wind does hit you a bit in the helmet area ...I'm 5 ft , 7 but it's not an issue for me
Generally a very good bike for the money
Cheers mark
I think they launched these in India in 2019, but I haven't seen a single bike on the streets yet, people seem to be having a prejudiced opinion about the quality and after sales service of this Chinese brand.
Interesting vinay .... thanks for the comment regards mark
Had shock today my father in law came to my house with the new triumph 3 gt rocket I was like omg man what a best it is
Hi Mark I'm out tomorrow for my second test ride on one of these (CMS Motorcycles Exeter) have put one up for me to ride I was in there the other day and said to Chris the Sales guy oh I quite like the look of that and 5 minuets later I was on a brand-new bike 0 miles just pulled of the showroom floor put fuel in it and said there you go see what you think
Well I think its a proper bit of kit for this money ok its not going to blow you away with its power, but your not lacking any get up and go you just need to twist the grip a little more, it handles really well and the brakes are really good straight out the box , good wind protection an all round good bike I think, If I ride it again tomorrow and I think the same I'm having one, be daft not to with the now 4 year warranty there offering.
Sounds great Paul ...yes these are fantastic vfm cheers mark
@@markpulling12 I've taken the plunge and bought one, had it for 5 days and cant stop ridding it, rained every day so far and the bike is filthy dirty its tipped it down and its not missed a beat, really safe and secure in its handling, brakes well and feels really safe, had to book the first service already
Can't fault it in anyway not at this price or any price come to that, my dealer tried to order in more and there sold out till next year I think that says it all really.
All the best Mark
@@paulblatchford4234 ah that's great news Paul glad you're pleased with it :)
Excellent, just like the kawasaki er 6f,cf moto are launching an, 800 adventure bike soon, based on the KTM 790,should be a good bike.
Thanks Kevin...yes that sounds great
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Any reliability issues for you long term owners?
Very good review Mark. It seems that producing a Kawa-esque 650 twin for six grand with all mod cons is a feat no one else can do.
The cheapest 660 Trident is a grand more when new.
I just wonder what the CF Moto will be worth in a couple of years?
Do you know if they hold their value, or does it drop like most other Chinese brands?
Hi Stuart I'd say it would drop about the same as other Chinese bikes but even if bought new and sold it say three years later for say £4 k that's not bad depreciation ...think of what you would loose on a £17 k bmw after three years .. eeek
Cheers mark
I do like this bike it looks really nice, what is the dealer support like for CF Moto?
Hi ...I'd would say it would be 100% from what I can see about my local dealership :)
Regards mark
I thought the MT looked odd with the scaffolding but this looks ok, odd it's missing a center stand though.
Yes I noticed that ...shame
Cheers mark
With the underbelly exhaust you can't really have a center stand...and if you can put one on it is ugly af :)
Nice review sir.. u said u prefer this bike over the Mt bcoz of the sportiness, what is the other factor other than sportiness?
Hi ....I like the tft and the lower seat height :)
@@markpulling12 alrite.. what about the performance? Is it the same with MT or just a little bit better?
Gt 650 on white? wow. Here in Latinamerica all the GT 650 just come in BLUE and BLACK, the white color is reserved for the GT 400. its beautiful on white
I think it looks great too Paul
Cheers mark
Greetings from my uncle, Indonesian motovlog, for those who are interested, hehe
I'm expecting a CFMoto 800 GT soon... In 2024 maybe ?
how does this bike handles pillion? I’m 220lbs and with a 130lbs pillion, will the frame and suspension feels weak? Thanks
Hi it will be perfect with a pillion...it's very capable:)
@@markpulling12 appreciated
Good review Mark, that's a lot of bike for the money 😁
Thanks Jim ...I thought so too :)
@@markpulling12 its Rob Mark, no probs and thanks for replying keep up the good work 😂
forgot to ask-did you ask the dealer about spare parts - I've read comments under Spanish review - that they have problem with some accessibility
Hi ....in the uk moto gb are the supplier ,and parts availability is good Cheers mark
Hi, when you said 50 mpg was it uk or us? Can you say in l/100km?
UK mpg :)
What bike would you buy right now with your own money for a great fun bike given what you know now?
Probably the ktm1290 suoerduke r
@@markpulling12 Cool!
So, is the engine built by Kawasaki, or does CFMoto build it under license? I saw a 650 ADVentura and a 1st gen Versys at the dealer last week, and the CFMoto's engine is a DEAD RINGER for the Kawi engine! All that's different is the graphics on the engine covers; the shape and bolt patterns are the same though. The bore & stroke are identical too.
I was told by the dealer that CF Moto build the engines for the 650 Kawasaki :)
@@markpulling12 okay, cool. That makes sense, as the engines, other than the names on them, were identical. There was a guy with a 1st gen Versys at the dealer when I was checking out the 650 ADVentura, so I could see for myself.
hello i have a question i'm a tall rider (1.88 meters) is this bike too small?
Hi no it will be fine ...have a look at the Mt model aswell :).
Best regards mark
Mark out of 5 stars what would you give this bike?
Hi Aaron I'd give it a solid 4 stars ...a good performer... reliable er6 based engine and decent build quality
Great for the money
Cheers mark
A used Kawasaki 650 of similar value would be my choice. Backup and parts would be my main concern here.
Agreed, as much as a bargain it appears to be I'm still not confident on long term quality and dealer support/parts on these bikes.
In the states CF Moto has a large ATV dealer network. Too bad they don't sell the motorcycles yet.
I do like the idea of these bikes but I watched a review of them both the MT and this one where the electrics had issues in the rain so that would put me off.
@@bikersquest Nothing seems to have changed then. I foolishly bought a Chinese bike 13 years ago, similarly the rain had got into the wiring on the side stand which affected the safety switch. Effectively the bike thought the side stand was still down so it wouldn't start, stranding me at work late on Christmas eve.
@Bikers Quest to be fair, this is a common issue on Japanese bikes too. Perhaps because they buy parts from China (who knows?). Whatever, buying the Kawasaki equivalent may not guarantee you won't see this problem again.
Looks like a great marriage between KTM and Kawasaki, probably all the bike you would ever need!
Yes these are great vfm :)
I believe they make alot of quad bikes too
Yes they are a huge company .
CFMOTO 👏👏💯💪
Possibly the most attractive Chinese motorcycle I’ve seen. It’s as if the Ninja 650 (ER6f) was transformed into a sports tourer. I want to say it’s even more attractive than the Kawasaki.
Thanks for the comment alex 😉
i read the TFT is auto dimming
For a minute there, as you went into Sandford, thought you were going straight on to pop into his garage.
I looked at both the other day and must say, seem like nice guys running the show, if a little unusual in their setup.
The thing that struck me about the GT though was why the extra cost over the MT? Okay, so it may be for the TFT but you lose the adjustable suspension on the GT that is standard on the MT. Personally I'd want the adjustable suspension on the GT as on the MT instead of the TFT... And at the same price as the MT.
Hi ...yes it's a tricky choice ..
Many thanks Mark
Would you buy it Mark? Honestly?
Hi yes definitely ....these are Kawasaki based no issues with reliability ... highly recommend one cheers mark
Could you review the new cfmoto 300sr
Hi Brendan ...that looks very cool...I'll see if my dealership is getting one on demo cheers mark
Has it got a center stand
No sadly it hasn't
hi mark , please ho is better Cf moto GT or Benelli 502 X ???? thanks
Hi mouad ......I preferred the benelli it's a little bit more comfortable and smoother ....but the cfmoto has a very reliable engine
Best regards mark
@@markpulling12 thank you so much mark
@@mouad2505 out of interest where are you located ?
@@markpulling12 i think benelli is better
@@markpulling12 mark sorry for derengement plz what is the deferent betwen benelli 502 x and qj motor trk 800 ?!!? Its the same marque ?!??
how tall are you? I am 1,85 is good for me?
Hi yes at 185 you will be fine I'm shorter than you at 175 ...the mt version is taller :)
Thanks mark
does the tft dash change to night mode mate ?
Hi no I think from memory it doesn't have a night mode but you can adjust its brightness cheers mark
@@markpulling12 i seen some other videos it does change ol bean :D
Update. White no longer an option and it loks like the luggage is not included now.
Hey Mark, is it a Chinese brand?
Hi ....yes it is :)
That’s what he said in the vid 🇨🇳 👍🏻
Need this bike in the usa
Ugly fairing, but these are good bikes. Very clear TFT. Have a look at the 700 CL-X. It's on RUclips.
Thanks Will do
Top speed 200kmh . 110 no es velocidad crucero. 140 150 es crucero para el 650
GT or MT?
I ...by a small margin just preferred the gt ... It was sportier to ride but still has all the comfort and touring ability of the Mt
Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 It would be great to see comparison Kawasaki Versys 650 vs CF Moto MT
Every time you show a bike, I’m like, “Ohhh! I want THAT one, too!”
😂
Even though she’s my ex, I’m sure she’ll not allow it.
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Imagine what I'm like when I ride them joseph ...I want them all ! Lol
@@markpulling12 - that's awesome. I'd suggest going on a ride but I'm out near Yosemite California... that's a bit of a commute.
@@izzojoseph2 haha yes
Surely you must have some criticism which is less than "very good"?
Nope ....can't find fault with these for £5.5k ....all parts are Kawasaki Interchangeable ...build quality is decent too..
Cheers mark
Just got one a week ago, bike still running in. Enjoying the bike so far 👍😁
Glad to hear the parts are interchangeable with kawsaki's. Where i am the agent warranty is for 5 years, that should save a lot of worries.
Great review btw! 👍👍
nice. but it revs too high for a tourer
But it revs lower than a trk Benelli which I’ve just swapped to as it was soo buzzy at touring speeds 👍🏻
I think the difficulty with these bikes is convincing people to not buy a used, older model of a more "reputable" brand, i.e this or a 5 year old BMW? It would be the BMW for me.
Good point 👍
As they say each to their own..owning a bmw k1200 r a few years ago has put me off owning any other bmw for life 2 clutches,one cam chain and tensioner and gear box + labour was the price of a new CF 650 GT.
Afaik the engine is a copy of the Kawasaki, it isn't made by Kawasaki though so the quality is not really there
After 5,500km on a 2021 CFMoto 650GT, this is what's up...
1) cylinder head assembly needed replacing
2) sprockets and chain needed replacing
3) clutch needs replacing
4) vibration from windshield (known fault, no one wants to fix it).
5) dealer servicing is poorly trained and lacks professional anything.
6) output shaft, clutch or gearbox are making terrible grinding noises.
7) oil leak on clutch cover, one of bigger, metal screw in plugs near the oil inspection gauge.
8) headligh lets water in, not much but enough to be annoying.
All services were done on time, half of this is poor quality engineering or assembly, the other half is poorly trained mechanics that reuse gaskets and tell you there's "no problem" until you actually compare the same bike side my side and point out the differences.
This is after only 5,500kms. Called customer service and they're not too interested, stop by the dealership all the time and they never fix anything properly. This is of course in the country I live in and very few things are done properly.
Where is your country?
@@lomate1963 somewhere that a second hand, five year old Versys 650 costs as much as a 2022 one in other countries and most of the people are idiots.
I think he is commenting this on more cf moto review.
@@vijayk249 damn straight I am. People need to know the risks their gambling with. A Kawasaki in most countries is just a little more expensive and whole lot better. Here a 10 year old Kawasaki is the same price as a 2022 model in Australia.
I'm also in Australia. Have a 2020 650GT which now has over 25,000km (bushfires, floods, Covid and health issues have slowed me down). As I got 3 years warranty I was prepared to take a risk. I've had 2 hiccoughs. First one shortly after purchase when it went on to one cylinder. But, I had my phone plugged into a USB port and the phone malfunctioned and shut down. Once I noticed this, re-booted phone and lo and behold, the GT was running on both cylinders again. Second hiccough occurred this weekend after I hit a large bump. Bike suddenly lost power and warning light came on. Pulled over, re-started bike then hit the Select button. Warning light went out and everything back to normal. I then proceeded to do over 1000km over the next 3 days. I've had those sorts of issues on many bikes, so not overly worried. Neither of these issues took more than 2 mins to fix.
Couple or things I have noticed: it took a long time to bed in the suspension(15k kms). Its now much more supple. However, the suspension works much better with a load on the bike. I'm 71kg, so anyone heavier than that will probably be comfortable. I did not like the original tyres. I now have a set of Pilot Road 5's on the bike. Much more betterer. Don't clean the airfilter by yourself. The fairing is actually double skinned and has to be removed, together with tank, to get to filter. Pain in the arse, and I leave that up to a mechanic. At least its oiled foam. I made up some spacers for the mirrors. I can now see much more behind me. I've also finally been able to get hold of a rear luggage rack which makes packing up for a trip much easier.
Generally the brakes are more than adequate and most people will be happy with them. But, 2 months ago I rode a bike I had sold 14 years previously (MuZ Skorpion). I had kept in touch with the new owner and he let me take it for a ride. It made me realise how crappy the brakes on both my current bikes are (the 650 GT and Kawa Versys 300). Where you squeeze the brakes hard on these 2, you caress the brake on the MZ very gently. Grabbing a handfull of brake is similar to hitting a brick wall.
Overall, I'm very impressed with the 650GT. Its been reliable and is very comfortable.
The engine is good, but I would not trust the rest! Chinese?? No thanks...
Honda all the way.👍
@@OperationFoxley19441 Lol! Yes, hard to beat Honda...
@@harryviking6347 I remember my 2009 Honda CBF N, I ride that throughout winter not one spot of rust.
Well, I'm riding my 650TK (previous "iteration" of 650GT if you might say so) for fourth year now. 40000km on my odometer. No problems at all. It just rides.
@@sergusster Sounds promising. Will take a closer look at it and the spare part/service situation. Thanks!
For around £6k, you too could support a country with a poor human rights, environmental and workers rights record! What's not to like!
The country you are referring to is coming to be the No 1 economy worldwide! Do they really need this support?
Another good bike Mark...It's good to see someone reviewing new Chinese bikes...Nice one Mark :-)
Thanks I'm impressed with them