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@AutoGefühl; 19:20 You measure the trunk size, good! Please also talk about the max payload weight people + luggage that the car can carry. Remember to tell if the weight is with or without 75 kg driver.
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Feedback to VW as it is marked Ad :-) Many people like me buy one if they offer 22kw AC charger on board. It makes very big difference in Europe with lot of public an free 22kw chargers. Just like i want a better wifi router to match my broadband connection. It's like wasting the 22kw Chargers by being able to use only 11kw. Not that logical.
Well Autogefuhl, VW will not like this "advertisement" from you guys!!! Sorry tale of VW screwing it up yet again. It will simply drive me mad, and impossible to operate the controls while driving. Will certainly steer clear of this and buy a Tesla.
Looks great from the exterior, and the interior looks pretty nice as well. Still wish VW would stop with the capacitive buttons and the slider controls for the climate control and volume.
No buttons for the win, Keeping things cleaner and nicer is worth not buttons and overall analog feel. Youll just get used to it, Just like getting used to smartphones 10-15 years ago :D
@@86Raxor There is a world of difference between a car and a phone. Most of us look at our phone screens when using them, we tend not to look at buttons on cars when using them, we get used to where they are and use them by feel whilst keeping eyes on the road. Thomas has frequently said he likes actual buttons too and he drives a lot of cars.
@David Gregory Hopefully that recovers as they adapt to using the HP printers they got. I don’t have high hopes, but I have some because VW is dear to me.
@@DavGreg the ID.3 was pushed out the door with a mind blowing speed - for VW - the ID.4 is already much better and will improve - same issue software, apparently the first real version is looking good. If you want luxury quality you can get it with Audi
@@alexnutcasio936 Hi Alex, I am not sure about Chevy and Buick, VW / Audi it's clear, they play in different categories - where VW stops - they serve the Mass market - Audi starts, and then the group as other Brands in their Stable still. But watch Audi establishing as the EV luxury brand.
I love how you get in depth of aspects like measuring the actual dimensions of the trunk with the folded seats, these are practical and useful information that potential buyers are looking for. Much more relevant than the classical "oh the boot is XYZ liters" which is not useful in my opinion. I'm watching A LOT of car related channels and you're probably the best one : calm, precise, useful and in depth not just some random shots of the car moving or drifting, keep up the good work ! Love from France.
I want to make it clear that it is totally silly that the U.S. still uses imperial units. But I also want to make it very clear that I really appreciate you giving specs in both metric and imperial units lol.
You should realize how shallow and image-fixated the average customer is. To most people Touch-screens = Expensive High tech = High status = something they can show off discretely. Buttons look old and outdated to the average non-car-person. I took a course in product psychology. Most people (often subconsciously) choose the product that increases their perceived social status. Usually this means designing something to look expensive, not necessarily to look good. This explains a lot of modern SUV-design. Ugly and brash, but looks very expensive (Porsche Cayenne for example). That is the real reason why touch screens are so popular.
@@videosforcatsanddogs214 It's a shame VW forgot that on the outside - where the "budget" VW brand, Skoda, have done a FAR better job with their Enyaq than this iD4 on the same platform...
@@videosforcatsanddogs214 i get your point but i disagree. Touch screen technology is part of our life today, tablets, mobile phones, tvs or laptops. It has nothing to do with looking fancy i believe. Most cars look fancy and expensive today. modern car design is very eye catching. a small hatch can look and feel sporty even with 90hp. Btw i dont think the Cayenne is an ugly car by any standards. Personally, i dont mind buttons nor touch screens on a car. I care less about a cars technological features but rather its practicality. How it looks and whats inside is irrelevant for me, for as long as its moderately fast with fair fuel economy, im a happy guy. Thats why i just bought a Hyundai I30N, it has everything i need. im certain that people today buy SUVs only because its a trend that people blindly tend to follow, nothing more nothing less. A small hatch can do the job of carrying a family of 4, mom dad and 2 children. i dont believe touch screens are popular, its the norm today. this is where technology is going towards. there is nothing wrong with that, everything is becoming better and faster. im fine with buttons and touch screens, and im mature enough not to compain about such details. lastly, theres a good reason why certain cars are relatively expensive, and its mostly about their target market rather than looking fancy or having cool technological features. Get into a Porsche and make a rough estimate just from what you see how much it would cost. start with basic features, leather, engine, car modes, comfort, speed, accelleration, power etc. then look at the people driving them, and ask your self what do they want in a car. they certainly all of the above in one. no wonder a porsche starts at 60k, well at least in my country.
I would explain it with 2 things. First, we have the consumer, wanting the car to look trendy and modern. Look at Tesla, they started it, now it is a trend, who does not follow, looses appeal and approval. Just remember 10 years ago, when everyone complained, that cars had to many buttons. Somehow you need to control the cars functionalities. Secondly, a touchscreen enables the car manufacturer, to bring new features and updates to the car. It is possible, to change the internal OS, to make the UX better, to bring completely new features, that weren't even planned, as the car was in development. Again, Tesla started it, everyone has to follow. Tesla can update the autopilot and bring new features to the car, if you can't do it as a manufacturer, you will always be at a grave disadvantage.
All cars need a screen now anyway for all the functions and not having buttons saves money (and makes it easier to make interior look minimalist and modern) TBH I don't find it much of a problem as most of what I use daily I can operate with steering wheel buttons anyway
Thanks for the review! Glossy black, matte black, Brown leather, bulky thick main screen, tiny instruments... the interior would definitely be a no-go for me.
I am absolutely thrilled that we're starting to see more practically oriented and affordable EVs coming to the market. I am strongly leaning towards the AWD ID.4 when it's released in the US market towards the end of 2021.
Thanks for the comprehensive review! I am an id.4 owner-in-waiting in Central California, and will check out the software problems when a car finally comes here.
@@matthiaskoehler1504 because most have already been manufactured a year ago. And VW in general don't have issues with their hardware. Why should this?
I can't wait to test drive the AWD version of this. We will be buying a new car this summer, it's this, Mach E or maybe the Ioniq 5. Thanks for the great review Thomas. Sounds like a really solid car that just needs software upgrades. Hopefully it will be much better in 6 months.
Really great review!! Thanks. Excited to get this soon in the USA. Am a GTI driver and had an egolf before - so excited this sounds like best of all worlds. Hopefully they can fix the software with software updates... main thing for me is the safety and the driving pleasure and cabin and chassis quality. Always good with Volkswagen!! German car yet much more affordable than bmw, Audi, Mercedes etc. love it. Awesome review thanks again!!
That slow or non-responsive infotainment system is a clear NO GO for such a car. Thanks for pointing that out Thomas. It is the same problem on the Skoda Enyaq (I suppose they share most of the HW and SW).
Ciao, Thomas! Thanks for this long anticipated review of the ID.4 I’m a big fan of this VW. I hope it proves a big success for all the people that work at VW. Btw I’m watching with my cat next to me. He seems to find your voice to be soothing 👍🏻 Funny how animals know animal lovers 😸
Nice. Now I want to see the Enyaq 😁 BTW, in my experience on the ID.3, the ACC controls work with 1 km/h for changing speed when pressing the +/- buttons and swiping up/down for 10 km/h difference. And pressing the center for toggling between the distance presets. Hopefully the 2.1 update on the firmware will fix the freezing issues 🤞
Thank you, great review and it takes someone not English to say head up display correctly, not heads up display like most other people. Really good review of a car I am seriously considering. I await many people correcting me wrongly that it is actually heads up display. It isn’t. Thank you, a great review.
Been driving my brand new ID3 now for 1 week and im loving it so much! What a fantastic car. But at the same time im looking forward to upgrade it after the 2 year lease plan is out for a ID4. Feels like im gonna get all the good stuff from my ID3 but in a bigger package
Hey Thomas, how about getting your hands on a Nissan Ariya and Hyundai Ioniq 5? You, Alex on Autos, and Motorweek are the best auto reviewers in the business!
I have ordered the Škoda Enyaq with the same battery, but this was very interesting to see. Great review as always. I presume the Enyaq will be similar to this regarding the driving. Thanks for all your great videos, Thomas👍
Rear drive limits recuperation for safety reasons, no one would like to find cars rear end going out in turn just because of throttle lifted unintentionally:)
@@freedomfighter5222 , tesla does not bother about things other car manufacturers care :) but yes, could be adjustable by sensors on the car, like temperature and rain sensor.
Perhaps surprisingly this is not a problem on my SR+ Tesla. The management of regen and traction is so good it feels like AWD! Even on slippery winter roads that potential issue has not been a problem at all. If VW also get it right there is no reason why it should be something to worry about. Also VW are using softer regen anyway it seems.
Great review Thomas! I'm not sure about the drum breaks because when you have a full battery (or cold day) there is will be no recuperation so you need disk brakes due to the cars weight. Build quality is good but efficiency is poor. Noise levels are good, but Tesla one pedal driving with better acceleration and a great charging network still puts Tesla ahead at the moment.
An excellent thorough and balanced review as ever, Thomas. It makes most reviews (especially from the motoring press) seem lacking in detail. Can’t wait to hear what you think of ID.4’s cousin, the Skoda Enyaq
@@RodrigoFerreira-bs6hd i like it personally. VOLKSWAGEN never made good looking cars, but i like the new design language personally. I don't think the ID4 is worth the extra price over the ID3.
Hi Thomas, thanks a lot for this beautiful channel.. I will make possible to meet you when I visit Germany. Really you are professionnel 🌹Mostafa from Algeria
As always, Thomas, you give a great review! I am surprised that VW does not have their best software team working on this car to get those glitches corrected ASAP? I also wished that they would increase the range to 300 miles EPA?
Can anyone tell me whether the ID 4 has climate control options for when parked, like Tesla's Dog and Camping modes? I am leaning towards buying an ID 4 over a Tesla, but if I can't keep the interior a constant temperature for hours at a time while parked, it will be a deal breaker for me.
@@Ben-oy1td Can you elaborate how you know this? I have posted this question in a number of places, and many have responded to insist that this can be achieved through the mobile app. But nobody has confirmed this, positively or negatively with any evidence.
Driving 3 months id3 and have had once a software issue which actually happens when trying to push many things at the same time by accident which I see could happen especially in the beginning when you want to try everything. After a few weeks basically like us most people just turn on radio, use navigation (or not even that close home) and drive. Anyway VW promised to have a new software update early next year for free and gave free charging until the end of the year. Overall 10-, huge fun and easy to drive.
Thanks for the nice review! Regarding the range and living in Finland, I would not say that few plus degrees is anywhere near the worst wheather yet for an electric car 😏 We’ve had -30c degrees recently here in middle Finland and that combined with generally long distances, outside Helsinki region, it remains to be seen when electrical cars (and with which future battery technology) become truely an option also here... It is also interesting to witness how fast people forget the VW’s diesel-gate... So driving still happily with 100% renewable Neste MyDiesel & Peugeot 508 RXH, a +1000km range with basically no fossil emissions at all. Greetings from Finland
I really like the techy looks and proportions of the car but I don’t like the interior colours of this version 1st. They have a light grey/white interior choice on Volkswagen USA which looks really good
I have always like VWs, But...there should be always old style buttons for the most important functions and also for some shortcut buttons to clear the touch screen user interface. These kind of clean cockpits just does not work well no matter what is the manufacturer. Here and also many other new car models the new style go over the usability.
I love the looks of the car. I don't know why, but the front and rear look futuristic while still grounded in the present. Good design. Also the navigation is funny as it doesn't allow you to set Berlin as destination without providing a street :)
On the recuperation: I think the way it is done in the iX3 is the best where it uses the assistant systems to automatically adjust recuperation based on conditions.
Software can be update without problems as Tesla, and you are driving a prototype that could be the problem of the entertainment system. This is a dream car, I will definitely buy it. Great review!..
VW software are the ones with the problems, I’d trust Tesla when it comes to software. www.google.com/amp/s/insideevs.com/news/451790/vw-id3-multiple-bugs-mind-the-explanation/amp/
Much like Thomas, I really hate this glossy plastic the VW group seems to be using in all their new cars. I would sooner pay extra for a traditional matte black or dull grey than deal with the inevitable scratches and scuffs of the gloss.
Thanks again Thomas. Piano on the door handle. With all the experience of the VW organisation then this was the best solution? Wearing rings will kill the “beauty” of the door handle in on month. And the no buttons approach is not my style. Looking too much at Tesla approach.
@Autogefühl Any Idea when you can show a driving review of the Skoda Enyaq iV? I can not find a single driving review of that car while it is already on sale! Thanks for the good icritical reviews!
What's funny is that VWAG secret shopped their many dealers and very few dealers, if any, were recommending the battery electric VW ID. It's going to be a hard sell unless they go to direct sales to consumers or provide huge incentives for dealers to recommend them. It's going to be a long road to sales. Driving starts at 20:00 to save your time. ID4, VWs mea culpa for " clean diesel." As to regeneration, even the Chevy Bolt has adjustable regen for one foot driving.
Thanks Thomas & team! I think you are really unbiased in your reviews and that’s in the end what’s valuable for us viewers. Hopefully VW can get there with the software, charging network etc. With their budget it should be doable and competition (read Tesla) will have the challenge to catch up with engineering capabilities of the likes of VW. What sticks out a bit with the ID4 is the underwhelming efficiency compared to the ID3, which seems to be quite efficient in comparison. Wonder what that’s all about?
Don't be shy Thomas, if it's cold one has to use heating, and if it majorly reflect in range than this needs to be highlighted. We are here to be informed, not bought.
Watching this for the second time I noticed the lack of center air vents on the dashboard. That may work in Germany but not in hotter climates. Not sure what they were thinking.
Top marks for VW for getting on with the transition to EV - not that they had much choice after diesel-gate! I drove an ID.3 last week. I liked the ride quality and refinement. However, VW need to improve the efficiency and performance of their electric drive train. The ID.3 is noticeably dull and inefficient compared to the BMW i3 (my current car). The i3 is let down by its hard ride quality. The ID.3 is let down by just 3 miles/kwh efficiency and a lack of zip compared the i3. ID.4 looks great, so will be keen to try one in the near future.
Autogefuhl, how is the backseat leg space compared to the new Octavia? The ID4 is slightly shorter than the Octavia, just not sure if this means less rear seat space for passengers and isofix seats.
Had the same thing happen to me when testing the Model 3. The screen froze and nothing would work, had to drive about 15 mintues with the defroster on full blast. And that was a production model.
Great review! Love the exterior design and the ID Light is a brilliant idea imo! I'm pretty sure that Doug DeMuro is gonna be very excited about this quirk 😅
Would rather go for the Skoda Enyaq, although some stuff I'd like to come standard like the heatpump for example doesn't in the Enyaq it just looks to have much more of an upmarket feel especially in the interior without compromising on user friendly solutions.
@autogefühl In Denmark the price of an Octavia Combi Hybrid Plus (including complete travel assist and some other extra equipment) is about the same price as the ID4 77kwh non-max edition. My question is, besides the obvious differences (hybrid versus full electric and wagon vs SUV) what is the biggest differences between the two vehicles? Are the rear leg room less in the ID4? Noise level? Driving dynamics? Suspension and comfort? Thanks
Is it possible to disable auto creep on this car? (So when you take your foot off the brake it doesn't automatically move)? I have read and heard conflicting reports on this.
Tomas, great review as always. I have a question, regarding all EV's. When we purchase an EV, what are the servicing costs involved? Also, what does a service include on an EV? Do you know? I'm curious to know if the price of servicing is broadly similar to the cost of a service on a petrol or diesel vehicle. Maybe you could ask the manufacturers or dealers this question?
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@AutoGefühl; 19:20 You measure the trunk size, good! Please also talk about the max payload weight people + luggage that the car can carry. Remember to tell if the weight is with or without 75 kg driver.
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Feedback to VW as it is marked Ad :-) Many people like me buy one if they offer 22kw AC charger on board. It makes very big difference in Europe with lot of public an free 22kw chargers. Just like i want a better wifi router to match my broadband connection. It's like wasting the 22kw Chargers by being able to use only 11kw. Not that logical.
Hi @autogefuhl, fan you do a review on Kia Sorento plug-in. Big fan.
Well Autogefuhl, VW will not like this "advertisement" from you guys!!! Sorry tale of VW screwing it up yet again. It will simply drive me mad, and impossible to operate the controls while driving. Will certainly steer clear of this and buy a Tesla.
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Looks great from the exterior, and the interior looks pretty nice as well. Still wish VW would stop with the capacitive buttons and the slider controls for the climate control and volume.
Good review as always Thomas, VW really needs to fix their software issues, and give up on the stupid no button trend.
Buttons will be premium. Same to the analog dashboard :)
No buttons for the win, Keeping things cleaner and nicer is worth not buttons and overall analog feel. Youll just get used to it, Just like getting used to smartphones 10-15 years ago :D
Exactly what happens when young yuppies, busy on iPhone and Instagram, design car interfaces.
@@urdudesamy Why don't you go back to nokia 3210 or motorola V980? I sm sure that makes sense. 😁
@@86Raxor There is a world of difference between a car and a phone. Most of us look at our phone screens when using them, we tend not to look at buttons on cars when using them, we get used to where they are and use them by feel whilst keeping eyes on the road. Thomas has frequently said he likes actual buttons too and he drives a lot of cars.
*VW could have a home run with this car if they execute on the quality and price.* ❤️
VW is going downmarket in quality. Way down.
@David Gregory Hopefully that recovers as they adapt to using the HP printers they got. I don’t have high hopes, but I have some because VW is dear to me.
@@DavGreg the ID.3 was pushed out the door with a mind blowing speed - for VW - the ID.4 is already much better and will improve - same issue software, apparently the first real version is looking good.
If you want luxury quality you can get it with Audi
Bavarian Car Enthusiast Audi or VW. Same difference except for price. Like Chevy and Buick.
@@alexnutcasio936 Hi Alex, I am not sure about Chevy and Buick, VW / Audi it's clear, they play in different categories - where VW stops - they serve the Mass market - Audi starts, and then the group as other Brands in their Stable still. But watch Audi establishing as the EV luxury brand.
Oh boy we've been waiting for this one... the car and the review!...
I love how you get in depth of aspects like measuring the actual dimensions of the trunk with the folded seats, these are practical and useful information that potential buyers are looking for. Much more relevant than the classical "oh the boot is XYZ liters" which is not useful in my opinion.
I'm watching A LOT of car related channels and you're probably the best one : calm, precise, useful and in depth not just some random shots of the car moving or drifting, keep up the good work !
Love from France.
Full dimensions of the boot-space would be useful (including the distance from the boot floor to the ceiling).
Love these reviews. So in depth and unbiased. Thomas speaks better English than me- great work
I think VW are doing a good job with their ID lineup. This is quite a nice car inside and out. Thanks for the top quality interview (as always!)
I want to make it clear that it is totally silly that the U.S. still uses imperial units. But I also want to make it very clear that I really appreciate you giving specs in both metric and imperial units lol.
you re welcome =)
The review I was waiting for !!!!!!!!!!!! THANKS SO MUCH !!
Greetings from Barcelona !!!!!
very well done review. Especially liked that you are tall and talked about comfort at your size. And about the things that could be better.
who wants no buttons in the interior, why is everyone doing it ?!?!?!
You should realize how shallow and image-fixated the average customer is. To most people Touch-screens = Expensive High tech = High status = something they can show off discretely. Buttons look old and outdated to the average non-car-person.
I took a course in product psychology. Most people (often subconsciously) choose the product that increases their perceived social status. Usually this means designing something to look expensive, not necessarily to look good. This explains a lot of modern SUV-design. Ugly and brash, but looks very expensive (Porsche Cayenne for example).
That is the real reason why touch screens are so popular.
@@videosforcatsanddogs214 It's a shame VW forgot that on the outside - where the "budget" VW brand, Skoda, have done a FAR better job with their Enyaq than this iD4 on the same platform...
@@videosforcatsanddogs214 i get your point but i disagree.
Touch screen technology is part of our life today, tablets, mobile phones, tvs or laptops. It has nothing to do with looking fancy i believe. Most cars look fancy and expensive today. modern car design is very eye catching. a small hatch can look and feel sporty even with 90hp. Btw i dont think the Cayenne is an ugly car by any standards.
Personally, i dont mind buttons nor touch screens on a car. I care less about a cars technological features but rather its practicality. How it looks and whats inside is irrelevant for me, for as long as its moderately fast with fair fuel economy, im a happy guy. Thats why i just bought a Hyundai I30N, it has everything i need.
im certain that people today buy SUVs only because its a trend that people blindly tend to follow, nothing more nothing less. A small hatch can do the job of carrying a family of 4, mom dad and 2 children. i dont believe touch screens are popular, its the norm today. this is where technology is going towards. there is nothing wrong with that, everything is becoming better and faster. im fine with buttons and touch screens, and im mature enough not to compain about such details.
lastly, theres a good reason why certain cars are relatively expensive, and its mostly about their target market rather than looking fancy or having cool technological features. Get into a Porsche and make a rough estimate just from what you see how much it would cost. start with basic features, leather, engine, car modes, comfort, speed, accelleration, power etc. then look at the people driving them, and ask your self what do they want in a car. they certainly all of the above in one. no wonder a porsche starts at 60k, well at least in my country.
I would explain it with 2 things.
First, we have the consumer, wanting the car to look trendy and modern. Look at Tesla, they started it, now it is a trend, who does not follow, looses appeal and approval. Just remember 10 years ago, when everyone complained, that cars had to many buttons. Somehow you need to control the cars functionalities.
Secondly, a touchscreen enables the car manufacturer, to bring new features and updates to the car. It is possible, to change the internal OS, to make the UX better, to bring completely new features, that weren't even planned, as the car was in development. Again, Tesla started it, everyone has to follow. Tesla can update the autopilot and bring new features to the car, if you can't do it as a manufacturer, you will always be at a grave disadvantage.
All cars need a screen now anyway for all the functions and not having buttons saves money (and makes it easier to make interior look minimalist and modern) TBH I don't find it much of a problem as most of what I use daily I can operate with steering wheel buttons anyway
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Thanks for the review! Glossy black, matte black, Brown leather, bulky thick main screen, tiny instruments... the interior would definitely be a no-go for me.
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I am absolutely thrilled that we're starting to see more practically oriented and affordable EVs coming to the market. I am strongly leaning towards the AWD ID.4 when it's released in the US market towards the end of 2021.
Thanks for the comprehensive review! I am an id.4 owner-in-waiting in Central California, and will check out the software problems when a car finally comes here.
Another suberbly produced episode! The "Thomas' Driving Lounge" segment incorporated the rain perfectly.
"Where you put your elbow, or something" ...?...Was denn sonst, Thomas? 😂
I like the sound the car makes, when you change the gear, to D and R. It sounds pleasant.
Thank you for your hard work! When do you expect to drive the Enyaq?
thanks! not sure yet we ll keep u updated!
Omg, capacitative touch surfaces everywhere. Electronic gremlins everywhere which dealer mechanics would have not clue how to fix.
Do they know how to fix buttons? They’ve always replaced them anyway. Touch panels are cheaper.
Next thing they'll try to make you sign up for Gmail... Run for the hills while you can Gramps!
Looking upto Chinese vendors, to build a replacement buttons to replace the junk touch surfaces.
I was waiting for this!! Thanks Autogefühl for delivering a detailed review that does the car justice.
Thanks Thomas, thorough, honest review as always.👍
Love your honest opinions...showing the bad and the good is always important
I really appreciated the honest review of the car. I would definitely buy it but they definitely have to fix the infotainment and soft or issues.
Always marvel at your video and audio quality. It's top notch. Keep up the fantastic and comprehensive work.
I can not understand how the Volkswagen PR can give you a car with such big problems regarding the software ? Bad advertising...
Fortunately, software can be updated over the air. Hardware can't. That is why hardware on this car is exellent.
@@anoniem9518 you don't know that the "hardware on the car is excellent". Or hv u been driving it for the past 6 months?
@@ClownSpass Well, if you watched the review, you'll find that the car is perfect in almost every way except for its infotainment.
@@anoniem9518 no car is perfect and how can you know that the hardware is capable?
@@matthiaskoehler1504 because most have already been manufactured a year ago. And VW in general don't have issues with their hardware. Why should this?
I can't wait to test drive the AWD version of this. We will be buying a new car this summer, it's this, Mach E or maybe the Ioniq 5. Thanks for the great review Thomas. Sounds like a really solid car that just needs software upgrades. Hopefully it will be much better in 6 months.
I’d say go for the ionic 5 or wait for a facelift on the steering wheel. Those capacitative touch buttons on the steering wheel are atrocious.
Really great review!! Thanks. Excited to get this soon in the USA. Am a GTI driver and had an egolf before - so excited this sounds like best of all worlds. Hopefully they can fix the software with software updates... main thing for me is the safety and the driving pleasure and cabin and chassis quality. Always good with Volkswagen!! German car yet much more affordable than bmw, Audi, Mercedes etc. love it. Awesome review thanks again!!
Cheers stay safe!
That slow or non-responsive infotainment system is a clear NO GO for such a car. Thanks for pointing that out Thomas. It is the same problem on the Skoda Enyaq (I suppose they share most of the HW and SW).
Very good review. Thanks! Can't wait to have it as an option in the US.
Ciao, Thomas! Thanks for this long anticipated review of the ID.4
I’m a big fan of this VW. I hope it proves a big success for all the people that work at VW.
Btw I’m watching with my cat next to me. He seems to find your voice to be soothing 👍🏻
Funny how animals know animal lovers 😸
Ciao Mario! All the best to u!
and hug your cat from me =)
@@autogefuehl danke Thomas I will do that.
We have two cats so I’ll tell them both they’re getting Autogefühl (long version!) hugs from Germania 🇩🇪 😻😻
Nice review, informative & interesting
cheers!
WOW!!! The VW ID 4 is super car😍😍😍😍
This is awesome. Finally some compitition in the E market. We need more of this. Go Green Go Fast Go Far
German car makers have waited way too long with electric cars , Im glad they finally start producing and devloping them
Mann oh mann, I really want hair like Thomas. :) Anyway, nice ID4, especially those sport seats! Can't wait for the AWD model.
I think the VW Microbus will be the one to get. Hope production starts soon.
2022?
Not until they fix the software and learn how to design an interior again.
I would be interested to know what software bugs they have.
Nice. Now I want to see the Enyaq 😁
BTW, in my experience on the ID.3, the ACC controls work with 1 km/h for changing speed when pressing the +/- buttons and swiping up/down for 10 km/h difference. And pressing the center for toggling between the distance presets.
Hopefully the 2.1 update on the firmware will fix the freezing issues 🤞
Thank you, great review and it takes someone not English to say head up display correctly, not heads up display like most other people. Really good review of a car I am seriously considering. I await many people correcting me wrongly that it is actually heads up display. It isn’t. Thank you, a great review.
Been driving my brand new ID3 now for 1 week and im loving it so much!
What a fantastic car.
But at the same time im looking forward to upgrade it after the 2 year lease plan is out for a ID4.
Feels like im gonna get all the good stuff from my ID3 but in a bigger package
This most likely still has the old software version! I really hope there is major improvements with the new one!
Hey Thomas, how about getting your hands on a Nissan Ariya and Hyundai Ioniq 5? You, Alex on Autos, and Motorweek are the best auto reviewers in the business!
I have ordered the Škoda Enyaq with the same battery, but this was very interesting to see. Great review as always. I presume the Enyaq will be similar to this regarding the driving. Thanks for all your great videos, Thomas👍
Rear drive limits recuperation for safety reasons, no one would like to find cars rear end going out in turn just because of throttle lifted unintentionally:)
But still Tesla Model 3 SR+ has much stronger recuperation, right?
@@freedomfighter5222 , tesla does not bother about things other car manufacturers care :) but yes, could be adjustable by sensors on the car, like temperature and rain sensor.
No issues with regen or traction control on my 2018 RWD Model 3.
Perhaps surprisingly this is not a problem on my SR+ Tesla. The management of regen and traction is so good it feels like AWD! Even on slippery winter roads that potential issue has not been a problem at all. If VW also get it right there is no reason why it should be something to worry about. Also VW are using softer regen anyway it seems.
I would like to know which model of camera you are using.
Thank you. So helpful when looking for the right new car. Keep it up guys.
I was seriously tempted to drive through wolfsburg yesterday, to search for ID4s :D
Great review Thomas! I'm not sure about the drum breaks because when you have a full battery (or cold day) there is will be no recuperation so you need disk brakes due to the cars weight. Build quality is good but efficiency is poor. Noise levels are good, but Tesla one pedal driving with better acceleration and a great charging network still puts Tesla ahead at the moment.
An excellent thorough and balanced review as ever, Thomas. It makes most reviews (especially from the motoring press) seem lacking in detail.
Can’t wait to hear what you think of ID.4’s cousin, the Skoda Enyaq
So tesla close to FSD and VW working on fixing glitches in the infotainment system? Great review thank you!
So far my favourite electric VW
What about ID3?
@@dragospahontu looks ugly
@@RodrigoFerreira-bs6hd i like it personally.
VOLKSWAGEN never made good looking cars, but i like the new design language personally.
I don't think the ID4 is worth the extra price over the ID3.
No reviews touching on any analysis of range it's frustrating. Just a quick mention of the most important part of the ev to most people
Hi Thomas, thanks a lot for this beautiful channel.. I will make possible to meet you when I visit Germany. Really you are professionnel 🌹Mostafa from Algeria
Talk to his fan club!
@@N464AT yes I think they are the second half of the success you are right my friend
As always, Thomas, you give a great review! I am surprised that VW does not have their best software team working on this car to get those glitches corrected ASAP? I also wished that they would increase the range to 300 miles EPA?
Hopefully that wasn’t their best software team
Can anyone tell me whether the ID 4 has climate control options for when parked, like Tesla's Dog and Camping modes? I am leaning towards buying an ID 4 over a Tesla, but if I can't keep the interior a constant temperature for hours at a time while parked, it will be a deal breaker for me.
No it doesn’t
@@Ben-oy1td Can you elaborate how you know this? I have posted this question in a number of places, and many have responded to insist that this can be achieved through the mobile app. But nobody has confirmed this, positively or negatively with any evidence.
Driving 3 months id3 and have had once a software issue which actually happens when trying to push many things at the same time by accident which I see could happen especially in the beginning when you want to try everything. After a few weeks basically like us most people just turn on radio, use navigation (or not even that close home) and drive. Anyway VW promised to have a new software update early next year for free and gave free charging until the end of the year. Overall 10-, huge fun and easy to drive.
Thanks for the nice review!
Regarding the range and living in Finland, I would not say that few plus degrees is anywhere near the worst wheather yet for an electric car 😏 We’ve had -30c degrees recently here in middle Finland and that combined with generally long distances, outside Helsinki region, it remains to be seen when electrical cars (and with which future battery technology) become truely an option also here...
It is also interesting to witness how fast people forget the VW’s diesel-gate...
So driving still happily with 100% renewable Neste MyDiesel & Peugeot 508 RXH, a +1000km range with basically no fossil emissions at all.
Greetings from Finland
Thomas my favourite every time. He sold me my current Golf R. Where electric from here I wonder...
cheers pal and enjoy ur R =)
It's distinctive, but I wouldn't call it pretty with regards to the exterior design.
The blue one looks a lot better
I really like the techy looks and proportions of the car but I don’t like the interior colours of this version 1st. They have a light grey/white interior choice on Volkswagen USA which looks really good
I have always like VWs, But...there should be always old style buttons for the most important functions and also for some shortcut buttons to clear the touch screen user interface. These kind of clean cockpits just does not work well no matter what is the manufacturer. Here and also many other new car models the new style go over the usability.
I love the looks of the car. I don't know why, but the front and rear look futuristic while still grounded in the present. Good design. Also the navigation is funny as it doesn't allow you to set Berlin as destination without providing a street :)
On the recuperation: I think the way it is done in the iX3 is the best where it uses the assistant systems to automatically adjust recuperation based on conditions.
Every electric car should have a frunk.
Impress your friends and spouse. Important
Yes, I’d like to see powered frunks be the norm.
I think VW has no plans for a frunk. They prefer to offer a good space for passengers and the room in the frunk is needed for future developments.
ID4 is mesmerizing, it's beautiful on the outside
@autogefuehl, how can the car does not have Dynamic Chassis Control? I thought it was standard on the ID.4 1st Max
Software can be update without problems as Tesla, and you are driving a prototype that could be the problem of the entertainment system. This is a dream car, I will definitely buy it. Great review!..
VW software are the ones with the problems, I’d trust Tesla when it comes to software.
www.google.com/amp/s/insideevs.com/news/451790/vw-id3-multiple-bugs-mind-the-explanation/amp/
Driving is THE MOST important feature of a car, infotainment is just bells and whistles.
Excellent review! Thank you.
Fantastic in depth review!!
Much like Thomas, I really hate this glossy plastic the VW group seems to be using in all their new cars.
I would sooner pay extra for a traditional matte black or dull grey than deal with the inevitable scratches and scuffs of the gloss.
Yeah I feel the same way. A lot of manufacturers are using glossy plastic. It scratches really easily and always look dirty.
Fingerprint magnet
Does this vehicle have an Auto Pilot or Full Self Drive feature?
good preview!
software could be better,
hardware... well for efficiency that's hardware to blame too, isn't it?
can't wait for the Enyaq
Thanks again Thomas.
Piano on the door handle. With all the experience of the VW organisation then this was the best solution? Wearing rings will kill the “beauty” of the door handle in on month.
And the no buttons approach is not my style. Looking too much at Tesla approach.
i like the lower, consistent part of the the HUD, but i absolutely hate the size changing arrows!
@Autogefühl Any Idea when you can show a driving review of the Skoda Enyaq iV? I can not find a single driving review of that car while it is already on sale! Thanks for the good icritical reviews!
What's funny is that VWAG secret shopped their many dealers and very few dealers, if any, were recommending the battery electric VW ID. It's going to be a hard sell unless they go to direct sales to consumers or provide huge incentives for dealers to recommend them. It's going to be a long road to sales. Driving starts at 20:00 to save your time. ID4, VWs mea culpa for " clean diesel."
As to regeneration, even the Chevy Bolt has adjustable regen for one foot driving.
Thanks Thomas & team!
I think you are really unbiased in your reviews and that’s in the end what’s valuable for us viewers.
Hopefully VW can get there with the software, charging network etc. With their budget it should be doable and competition (read Tesla) will have the challenge to catch up with engineering capabilities of the likes of VW. What sticks out a bit with the ID4 is the underwhelming efficiency compared to the ID3, which seems to be quite efficient in comparison. Wonder what that’s all about?
How does the HUD fare on a sunny day? Many displays are almost impossible to see when inundated with sunlight.
Don't be shy Thomas, if it's cold one has to use heating, and if it majorly reflect in range than this needs to be highlighted. We are here to be informed, not bought.
Watching this for the second time I noticed the lack of center air vents on the dashboard. That may work in Germany but not in hotter climates. Not sure what they were thinking.
Top marks for VW for getting on with the transition to EV - not that they had much choice after diesel-gate! I drove an ID.3 last week. I liked the ride quality and refinement. However, VW need to improve the efficiency and performance of their electric drive train. The ID.3 is noticeably dull and inefficient compared to the BMW i3 (my current car). The i3 is let down by its hard ride quality. The ID.3 is let down by just 3 miles/kwh efficiency and a lack of zip compared the i3. ID.4 looks great, so will be keen to try one in the near future.
Great review, Thanks. Why can't they fix the software? Surely it isn't that difficult....
Did you were able to use the infotainment system once you did stop the car? or it remained irresponsive as when you were driving
Piano black is the perfect material if you intent to irritate your customers or not sell too many of those
You have best video quality oh heaven
Autogefuhl, how is the backseat leg space compared to the new Octavia? The ID4 is slightly shorter than the Octavia, just not sure if this means less rear seat space for passengers and isofix seats.
Software malfunction in a 2021 car. Awful.
Stfu
Unbelievable, freezing system 😫
Had the same thing happen to me when testing the Model 3. The screen froze and nothing would work, had to drive about 15 mintues with the defroster on full blast. And that was a production model.
Well all software freeze, Tesla does that alot too
@@muhammadirfanataulawal7630 yes but with Tesla it will be forgiven - with VW not, the clients will demand a flawless product.
Hi Thomas, what can you say about driving characteristics compared to mach E?
Great review! Love the exterior design and the ID Light is a brilliant idea imo! I'm pretty sure that Doug DeMuro is gonna be very excited about this quirk 😅
Who wouldn't love this German unbiased reviews of German cars :-)
you re welcome!
@@autogefuehl And with such polished sense of humor🙂
😅
Now you have driven id4 and ix3.
How would you compare both cars ? Are the assistance systems in the ix3 better ?
Would rather go for the Skoda Enyaq, although some stuff I'd like to come standard like the heatpump for example doesn't in the Enyaq it just looks to have much more of an upmarket feel especially in the interior without compromising on user friendly solutions.
@autogefühl In Denmark the price of an Octavia Combi Hybrid Plus (including complete travel assist and some other extra equipment) is about the same price as the ID4 77kwh non-max edition. My question is, besides the obvious differences (hybrid versus full electric and wagon vs SUV) what is the biggest differences between the two vehicles? Are the rear leg room less in the ID4? Noise level? Driving dynamics? Suspension and comfort? Thanks
Is it possible to disable auto creep on this car? (So when you take your foot off the brake it doesn't automatically move)? I have read and heard conflicting reports on this.
Tomas, great review as always. I have a question, regarding all EV's. When we purchase an EV, what are the servicing costs involved? Also, what does a service include on an EV? Do you know? I'm curious to know if the price of servicing is broadly similar to the cost of a service on a petrol or diesel vehicle. Maybe you could ask the manufacturers or dealers this question?
Better looking/stance than ID.3 and will be VW's go to EV for a lot of buyers.
I don't like this type of cars but the review is 👍👍👍