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Die Antwoord Exposed By Adopted Son Tokkie / Wide Awake Podcast EP. 25
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- Опубликовано: 15 авг 2024
- In this Episode of the Wide Awake Podcast I spoke to Gabriel Du Preez also known as Tokkie. Tokkie was born in Feitas which is a suburb in Johannesburg. In 2010 he was introduced to one of south Africa's most successful music groups, Die Antwoord by filmmaker Ben Jay Crossmen.
He was adopted by Yolandi Visser and Ninja when he was nine years old along with his younger sister Meisie. Their older brother was not adopted and remained in Fietas with his mother.
Tokkie believes that Die Antwoord adopted him solely because of the way he looks and that it was all part of their image.
After spending many years with the musical group and appearing in some of their most successful music videos titled ‘I Fink U Freaky and Ugly Boy' Tokkie has been completely cut off and is now living back in Fietas with his older brother. His sister remains in their custody.
Timecodes
0:00 - Intro
1:38 - Life Before Meeting Die Antwoord
5:46 - Adopted By Die Antwoord and Music Videos
20:23 - Doing Drugs With Die Antwoord As A Kid
24:20 - Fetching Pizza With A Paintball Gun
26:08 - Allegations Against Die Antwoord
35:18 - Tokkie Stabs His Brother With A Knife
42:49 - Tokkie Mom Passes Away
43:58 - Ninja Gave Tokkie A Tattoo When He was 13
45:14 - Training How To Use Guns For A Movie With Gangsters
50:08 - Spending Time With Notorious Gangster Anies
53:56 - Die Antwoord Had An Open Relationship
55:33 - Why Tokkie Stopped Living With Die Antwoord
58:29 - Tokkies Message To Die Antwoord
Watch 24 Hours With Tokkie From Die Antwoord Documentary Below!
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Please help this man with opportunities! It will make you greater. Listen to these words in your life.
Can't you help him set up a go fund me or something. I'm sure there are many people who would donate. This man should'nt have to suffer, after having his childhood stolen.
Your getting man's story out there, yes?. This interview is about serious allegations and the subject matter is of a serious nature. And yes sometimes you have to" laugh or you'd cry". I get it. However your use of the word "enjoy" in the preamble was ill advised. The topics discussed are not entertainment but a re-telling of an individual's experiences: :Die Antwoord Exposed By Adopted Son Tokkie / Wide Awake Podcast EP. 25". Your title. It's an expose. I would ask you to, next time, think about your words Sir. Thank you for your time..
It would be wild to get their side of all this too.
Their predictable response when they hear about his going public will be to spin a story to make him sound insane and evil. They know they have the money and following to convince people and the law anything they want.
The fact that Tokkie is able to discern the realities of what he went through and see it from a mature perspective shows how intelligent and pure hearted he is. I truly hopes he carries on with a life of prosperity, peace, and love.
He’s a great person? MAYBE! He could be a total lying sociopath scam artist too. You weren’t there and only know what he wants you to see. Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought the idiot than to open it and remove all doubt…
@@mstreech You could be right. Who knows?
@@mstreech and how the hell would you know? So it could be the other way around as from what you are saying! Why don't you follow your own advice and keep your mouth shut
@@Phuckhead that makes zero sense. Your white knighting for someone I’m not even insulting. It was a friendly reminder to take things people say with a grain of salt. Chill. I’m talking to people just like I would in real life. I see your the other guy…
@@Phuckhead you saw the guy I was talking to knew what I was saying right?
the fact that Tokkie managed to resist their attempts to groom him into some violent monster and retain his sense of morality really speaks to how genuinely good he is to his soul. even with all the shit they did to him, they couldn’t corrupt him
Many people wouldn't be able to retain their sense of self through this treatment, he's a strong man
hes a psycho... he stabbed his friend and now the ride is over is asking for money because he didnt like america and went back home.
That is absolutely true. Love him tho ❤
did u watch the video? once again, it's about money
@@BobSmog I'm glad he's safe.
As someone who was trafficked with their siblings, adopted without them, and denied family contact - this man's story is immediately as valuable to me as that of the indigenous peoples in my country.
You can't change or break us. We're people not products or puppets.
I haven't watched it yet. I'm trying to discern if it's real. I stopped paying attn to the band in 2010, and I assumed what they did was performance art. This real?
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@@ocotillofence discern if its real? And who TF are you? 🤣😂
@@cocoaveg6375 I work in media and live performance.
@@cocoaveg6375 Let me guess, you're going to call me a karen next.
His voice is so comforting to me for some reason, I could listen to entire audiobooks narrated by Gabriel honestly
Jy’s mal
Sameeee
Tokkie turned out so gentle and well spoken given what they put him through. A testament to his true spirit and character. Be well Tokkie, and may the Lord bless you.
He's so much more articulate and put together than these people
@@Aryzo they lost all their fans.
@@codybarry8204 maybe it just a cultural gap but I could never understand how they ever had any fans. Their "music" is terrible imo.
@@codybarry8204 Nope, they didn't.
Ask yourself, where would Tokkie be otherwise?
I cant praise this young man enough for not succumbing to that level of grooming. I hope he recieves justice and lives a good life
His love & reverence for his mother is so precious and inspiring. It’s profoundly powerful that, even without her being around, her influence on him was able to transcend the years of grooming, abuse, manipulation, isolation, negative encouragement he endured. I so feel for this pure and sweet human. I’m sure your mother would be so incredibly proud of you ❤️
His family really blaming a 9-year-old for what happened is absolutely sick.
Everything about Die Antwoord just screams exploitation.
It was cheaper to “adopt” Gabriel than to continue to hire him as an actual child actor. Very disgusting behavior.
Seems like good business practice to me.
they are anti-christ they pray to Satan and they hate children. they are evil
@@Sulaymaniyah21 lol. Its probably just an image. They definitely weird though
@@clayton9136 they are evil they believe and worship the devil,
@@Sulaymaniyah21 I'm sure it's just an image.
They treated this poor gentleman as subhuman. They misguided him, abused him, and isolated him. Justice for this poor gentleman.
There's always something good in bad and vice versa..
They didn't teach him "nothing" about this world and how it goes around - though he was ofc "used".. like we all are/were once or for a while.. and we are all selfish "sometimes"..
Thats what he said, the truth is never one-sided.
wow the entire family is so ugly. the girl is kind of cute though
@@steretsjaaj2368 you must be white
@@imnotimpressed420 cum on now..
Me and this guy have the same medical condition and hearing what they were doing to bro makes me so mad. This condition is really hard to cope and deal with and hearing how they treated him is so gross and sad.
It's disgusting
I agree. ❤
Terrible what they did to him, how long did they foster him ? They should have paid him for his acting & put the money in trust for him.
Both of my sons have ED as well. This makes me so sick.
My oldest daughter has Ectodermal Dysplasia.
His demeanor is so gentle, thoughtful and intelligent. Despite their attempts to corrupt him it seems like he grew up to be their polar opposite.
This is a blatant case of child abuse, and Ninja and Yolandi need to be held accountable.
I really doubt the ritual part, but it’s sad to think the band(?) I like (some songs) was most likely doing this. And I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if it were true, especially since they can act a lil crazy.
Child abuse? Only? These people are clearly sociopaths, or maybe even psychopaths. Tokkie's story is just one story of the wrongs these people have done. There are countless stories detailing the kind of people Die Antwood are.
unacceptable behaviour! horrific
@@cynthiamartinez8994 then you don't understand how the music industry and free masonry works... luciferians aren't your friend friend... why do you think child trafficking is one of the biggest industries??
Wow, really? You think people who act and look like them have their sh*t together and will be good parents? Personally I think they are overrated, they are the South African version of Billie Eyelish and all the basic b*tches think they are edgy.
Child abuse to the MAX. I feel ashamed that I thought Die Antwoord was cool. I watched those videos and thought "Artistic" and Yolandi's voice lulls you into a feeling of safety...so innocent. Nothing innocent about this. I apologize to Tokkie. Your abuse is inexcusible.
#amnestyinternational
Yes, I found Yolandi fascinating.
Safety..... Lol
They are very original artistically but I am now an ex-fan because Zeani case and this one. They lured us all.
Agreed. I'll never see them the same again. Disgusting people. I'm glad Tokkie spoke out. I believe him 100% I've watched a lot of liers & he doesn't exhibit any signs of lying.
He seems like such a cool, laid back dude with a stunning amount of awareness. Hope he keeps kicking up dust.
Much respect to Gabriel for mustering the courage to speak against Die Antwoord. Wishing the best for you and your family. Stay strong Gabriel, we know you will get through with life. Thanks Josh for granting him the platform to speak out.
“I’m not doing it for me I’m doing it for my Mom” Tokkie brother you earned my respect ✊🏻 massive respect!
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This is so heartbreaking and imo should be classified as human trafficking. Manipulating his parents into believing he would have a better life with them, falsifying documents, agreeing to take on the role of a parent but simply exploiting the child for money. Everyone that was apart of their team knew. I’m so glad it seems he’s starting to heal and I hope he and his family get justice
For ASMR check out TingTing… shes the Queen
I know ! This is borderline Human Trafficking ! They’ve done this before to fans.
"justice" hahahahahahah
It's really sad, cuz I always liked their music, but all these allegations make me believe they're truly human scum. But I mean what do I expect from people who glorify child abuse to their millions of fans..
@@firinne I’m trying to figure out what’s funny
Big hugs to Gabriel du Perez. You didn’t deserve to be groomed as an innocent poor child, tricked into being a slave, isolated from your friends and family, abused. I hope something really good comes out of all these horrible experiences.
The fact that he can sit here and talk about this so eloquently makes me cry, this poor boy is so obviously more than his disability and it hurts my heart to know that those monsters taught him for so long that that was all he was good for. I hope he’s doing well, and continuing to prosper away from Die Antwoord.
This interview is great. Tokkie needs to start a RUclips page or somesort of podcast or blog. Start small just recording himself with his phone telling short stories about his life, growing up in that crazy neighbourhood, little tours around his hood, interviewing some locals etc. The content there must be endless, he doesn’t even need to tell DA stories unless he wants. No need for crazy editing. Just upload at least once a week and I’m sure it will snowball and takeoff!
He will end up dead if he don't zip it. Bet we never hear from him again
Yeah......I'd deffo watch that & deffo sub.....do it tokkie🤩😇😁
He's active on Instagram, check him out!
Genius and true
@@andrewflowers6794 Genius huh! Oh, if you say so.
Die Antwoord exploited a 9 year old child from an impoverished community. It's beyond sad, I really hope people stop supporting their lame act!
Agreed
I stopped listening to them a LONG time ago. This isn't the only horrible thing they've done.
Their "music" sux!
I am not judging their character, but it tskes fucked up people to make fucked up music. They are musical geniuses. You cant deny that, if you understand anything about music. In combination with the videoclip it is nothing less than art. I do not condone their behaviour but I appreciate their art.
@@babsywoman4212 so what “art” at all costs?
From what I understand if you are working for your parents in a family business you can be worked underage and without payment, which explains the adoption in the first place if this is so.
They exploited him for his looks and tried to make him think he was the devil, but the good in him prevailed. Very stoic of him for handling this situation so well. We have no control over the things that can happen to us but we can control the way we respond.
Absolutely 👏👏👏
These satanic cultists couldn't break his soul.
His perspective and thoughts he conveys just really shows he is a good man in his heart. Amazing, Tokkie please stay true to who you are, you are no devil, you are good and you being here after the experiences you had are a testament to that.
They did way more than just abusing his looks.
That dude is messed up. Die antwood is messed up. Like seeks like. This guy is capitalizing. He certainly didn't benefit by being around them, but he seems like he would have gotten where he is, regardless.
I hope Tokkie knows that he is a lovely and gentle soul. He was a child.
Thank you for giving him a voice.
You are loved Tokkie, always stand up for your rights. You are strong!
Lovely that you said that 🙌🏻🙏
I agree! Bless this beautiful man ❤ what he's gone through made me cry, he deserves all the happiness in the world for what he's had to endure while growing up 💔
I don't get why he thinks we should give him money? Why doesn't he go on one of South Africas free community college type learning things and be a carpenter, or a gardener? He could be a cab driver but he doesnt do anything. Get a damn job, Im not giving him money for weed. Plus he trips himself up often with the lying.
Yeah yeah yeah like u give a damn about him
You may very well be the only one who can speak up for children being abused in such horrifically mental ways. Words and manipulation is the fastest was to do life long damage to any child. You are an amazing young man and you have all my well wishes and respect. Way to rise above. Even when you dont feel you have rose above know that deep down behind the yelling voices of doubt that you are amazing and you are so strong and so amazing to be able to stand up and tell them no... i am not a bad person. I dont want to hurt people even if thats what you want. This is your life and so many of us are so proud of you.❤
Tokkie you are a beautiful person, I am so happy your mom made you go to church so the priest could tell you - you weren't a devil. Those people who were your "legal gaurdians" were the devil and I'm glad you are free from them. You are amazing, you are worthy, honest - I hope you go far in life.
At 9 years old no child makes their own decisions. No child has the mental capacity to make rational decisions. This poor man is basically been held responsible for decisions that were clearly beyond his control, treated like he fucked up his own life. I’m absolutely disgusted by this story & someone has to stand up and help him obtain what he is rightfully entitled.
Moat nine year Olds have a concept of right and wrong normal and not by what they are around. I knew my homework was to be started when I got home and if I was eating anything I got hit. I knew that. So I didn't snack and I did my homework. This child had a normal he was used to, then basically built up emotionally while being broken physically and emotionally. They ruined his right and wrong. I'm genuinely surprised he is so well adjusted. Again, I feel like so many people are so tone deaf and blind to have how lucky we are in my country. They just took a kid from homewith a fake signature. I wonder if they gave his mom money. He got a good life, in her eyes. Then gave her a very small amount, but its a lot for moms area. He said she used drugs. She probably thought she was doing what was best and then with 2 less mouths to feed....they probably had a bit more....
@@_zombie_queen_
You got hit if you ate anything? Christ YOU were abused
Tell that to the American lgbtq
@@MakeLoveNotWar420 we both know that the gate keeping LGBT members won't let anyone pass.
@@_zombie_queen_ they can hatekeep us all they want. but deep down even they know it's not right, but theyre too far to turn back so they have dug their heels in.
On behalf of South Africa we do not claim Die Antwoord
All the problems that South Africa has... Die Antwoord is not one of them.
Why not? They're inbred. I cannot think of a more suitable representative.
2 replys where are they censortube????? You effin nad zees.
Die Antwoord is evil!
@@beautruex7012 the whole industry is evil
This guy did everything he could for his mum. This guy is a good person.
I am sick for having watched this before I knew. So so sorry Tokkie. I am also a survivor, STAY STRONG is all we can do. Standing for the truth is a revelation the earth needs. Ty Tokkie ❤
Interview was conducted very respectfully! Not a lot of interviewers who are professional enough to let the interviewee speak abd not cutting them off! Thank you for this!
Was a really bad interview. The interviewer guided the entire conversation, instead of just probing the given information.
TLDR: it's an emotional hit piece
Yeah why is that so rare? Why would they invite people on to their shows only to not let them speak? Makes no sense
@@lucibloom5966Do you not understand a "leading question" and how implication forms messaging?
Essentially, he asks the question, while also proving the implied answer. I.e. a guided interview.
I agree ❤
@@bobSeigar he’s guiding the interview based on points and allegations Tokkie already made in the article, it helps keep the interview focused and organised while the interviewee can add more personal details where necessary
His humbleness comes from his poverty. Knowing how hard the world can be, to go with out, to go hungry, makes you appreciate the apples growing on a tree.
well said. thought same and refreshingly pure of heart
I came from no money and ended up making a ton of it and I appreciate every fucking thing……I could get out of a $80,000 car and pick up a nickel on the ground.
Side note I been in a bad spot the last 1.5 months but it’s all good I just need the momentum again.
@@Sh1tzboutagodown Was that a figure of speech or did you actually waste 80k on a lump of metal with wheels?…
And don’t worry, you’ve done it once, you’ll be alright again.
Prim it was financed but yeah.
I sold it probably 7-8 days ago….owed bout $13,000 on it and sold it for $34,500 and put the money that came my way towards my back bills.
Still got 3 nice vehicles but that was one I wanted to have a forever…fuckit
It was a 2017 and probably 28,000 miles when I dumped it.
Oh yeah I’ll be up again I just gotta be smarter w my $.
Example let’s call that car payment and insurance almost $1,000 per month……I’m remodeling my kitchen and 2 meals a day at $30 each meal is approximately $1,800 a month to eat……so if I buy the appliances this week or maybe next month I’ll have $2,800 back in the budget per month
That’s how wasteful I’ve been being for years and it’s only 2 examples……
Time to smarten up.
Wow that's so ass backwards
I’m becoming more and more convinced that I must expose my celebrity abuser, after I’m done with all the legal stuff. Not only for myself, but for the people that were hurt before me an for anyone who could potentially be the next victim. I want to be the last victim, this needs to stop.
How are you doing now? I really think all the truth about the power and corruption in the entertainment industry needs to come out.
@@Katy-sh3ru, I won one more court hearing, there’s two left, I’ve been fighting for four years because of Covid, now it’s gonna be faster. Thank you, I’m better now and determined to reclaim my life and dignity back!
I wish you luck on your journey ❤️
Hugs & blessings to you! I hope you won the rest! 🤗
I hear you, and I hope to hear more from you, if you feel safe and inclined to share. I went to a conservatory school that kids were in movies after attending. There were 3 CSC arrests the year I was there, and one person had already been convicted. A stage mom I knew had dinner with him as soon as he was released. Sick!
Side note , Ninja is an alleged rapist too
I legit ALWAYS wondered who that kid was and what kind of parents volunteered him to be in those videos...
Well it's poverty and the real parents was said to be in drugs (aka propably something like heroine or crack/amphetamines, I got sense like addicted since he said it was already normal to see for him) so when the countries biggest celebs come to ask if they can adopt your child who have a condition, they propably were thinking that this is path for him to make a good outcome for his future by what these people can provide (and maybe help them back). Like say Angelina Jolies and Pitt's kids, like Jolie basically directed the movie about Cambodias genocide by having a child whose heritage is from there (I have been there, there is gruesome history in it). That just shows that there is real dedication for the kids in big time. Those children were ofcourse adopted like you are supposed to in normal cases but I mean that there can be results of becoming basically a kid just from very rich household 😅 Better schooling, more opportunities for life, making contacts for future. When he was from ghetto with problematic, altough with loving parents I guess it was just the parents in a dire situation rolling the dice and trusting too much for a good outcome when these people happened to be the one to provide propably the worst one (also two mouths less to feed which must be tempting in hc poverty).
Who lets their kids get involved with disney, no difference.
If they knew what will happen they will never agreed
Me but with the K.I.D.S. video by MGMT
@@caseylayton4898 yeah that kid is probably traumatized for life
He was 9. How could anyone resent him for trusting people he thought were role models. I feel so so bad for him 😢. I’ve no doubt he is speaking the truth. Many more stories to come…….
I was Tokkie's nanny and he is speaking the truth.
His parents are to blame here. He was a paycheck.
Wait die antwood are abusive freaks? Who could have seen that coming?....
They have repeated history of grooming children. Plus could you imagine how much money they made off of him and then didn't give him any money?!!???! He needs to sue them immediately
@@christilivs8703 We're you actually? I want to believe you but that's a bold statement
That guy Ninja is a straight up poser. He’s like the dictionary example of a poser.
48:15 “he’s the most fearless gangster… but actually he’s not”
Spot on. Hilarious
This guy is smarter than ninja and yolandi you can tell by the way he speaks. He is stoic and humble. great guy
What a good man he has grown to be! After all that and he still finds it within himself to be a good person. I really hope all of his dreams come true. He deserves it!
Yes
I like your comment. I wish this young man the same ☺️
Glad this was in my recommended. Your interviews are very well done. This was really shocking to me as a *former* Die Antwoord fan. More people need to know about this!!!
I came here from a Facebook comment section that was arguing over wether they were guilty or not (first time hearing anything about it) so I came to research about it and after watching this I can't believe people deny it, it needs to be spread!
I am pro weed, shrooms, and lsd, but you need to be 25 years old.
Any younger and it can be negative.
Even too much sugar or caffeine should be controlled for kids and teens.
also great interview style. i didn’t feel like i watched an hour long interview at all… i was interested the whole time and was surprised when it was already over… so big ups!
The last video with his family is heartbreaking where they are low key threatening him to stay quiet and saying “we want you to get a job” and such.. abandoning him after all the abuse and expecting him to return to his previous life without bothering them. They took away all possible opportunities for him to learn fundamental life skills in childhood, now as he says, he has to “start all over again” as an adult.
He looked scared especially when dude handed him the money and the arms crossed is a self soothing thing, I automatically did when I went to therapy, also sitting on my hands when I’m uncomfortable and nervous, the nervous laughter too. I definitely believe what he says is truthful but there’s absolutely more that he’s leaving out. Which I get, was most likely a lot WORSE than what he’s already admitting. I hope he gets good legal representation and his sister back and his money and THOSE GROSSO’S GO TO PRISON.
What rediculously unfair pieces of shit, They post videos of themselves on tour staying in high price hotels and drinking expensive Champagne , and they say they can't afford 5 dollars worth of petrol for him to go see his Parents!? You know what? Go fuck yourself Yolandi and Ninja! They're worse than roving bandits in my view
They literally took this kids education away from him something that could have changed his life as a South African instead they just used and abused him until he was a threat to them for speaking out then dropped him. After encouraging him to drop out of school? Horrible people. They should go to prison for human trafficking of a child.
and all he wanted was R8000 to take welding classes and they stiffed him and later gave him R5000 and that was the last dime he got from them in the reunion video
Don't know how I ended up here, but I've listened to the whole interview and I gotta praise this young man for standing up for himself and those exploiting him when he was the most vulnerable. He seems so mature and wise, I hope he doesn't bear too many scars from his childhood years with DA. Know your worth bud!
You should watch the documentaries about how sick ninja was. Pure evil and on drugs
Same.
Same. God bless him, poor bastard.
“I met them on the way from school” just like most predators.
No one visits me, no one calls me, and no one messages me. Hell, I doubt anyone even thinks about me. I know how he feels.
You good bro?
I see you. Hello!❤
Yea. It’s a lonely world Keep your head up Keep being yourself. Life doesn’t have to suck. Find one thing that makes you happy and hold onto that
I hear you bro, I have my dog. Everyone else is doing their own thing. We're stronger than anybody knows. Keep your head up!
@@devenjvice what do you think
A few cases of human trafficking right there - sex trafficking, forced labour that we are made aware of. Plus other charges around child abuse. Who knows what else. I am concerned for his sister. She should be taken into state custody ASAP and they should be investigated.
South African state custody is cringe brah
according to an article i read, the sister is not with Die Antwoord but still under their custody unfortunately
We can get her out for sure. If that’s what her brother wants we can petition that and ensure it happens. Respond if anyones interested in doing that. I was abused as a kid and really believed there was no escape there is and I bet if this was on the news a wonderful family would adopt this sweet girl
@@N.Narwhal really? Is it that bad? I’m just trying to think of what to do. Is she better off with them than in state custody?
I doubt state custody would be much better. She needs to be with her brothers, they’re old enough to be guardians I’m sure. Any other family perhaps?
I thought their scary vibes were a show, fake, an act... But then I found out so much truth about them when young girls started calling out their horrible abuse. So sad to hear all those they hurt, almost everyone in their life it seems they've abused... So sad.
The whole industry is evil. It's about social engineering
That’s true even crew members and “friends” anyone In their life they are rude and disrespectful.
Check out the Australian young rapper girl who claimed she was abducted by them, (starstruck). Witnessed all sorts of weird sex ritual shit... They said she was a willing participant. It's a proper saga. Sorry, I forget her name.
@@Anne-hq3vt Zheani is her name
you can't act like that without it effecting your psyche in some way. never forget this.
that's why I personally believe all horror writers are troubled in some way.
it's a grand statement but at the very least, it's because they're shallow.
This journalist/interviewer is exceptional. Great questions and clearly has spent time and effort helping Tokki feel at ease. I hope both men go on to have every success and happiness they deserve.
Die Antwoord released a documentary about themself and they are now on a tour again. So will there be a new video about them on this channel?
Not even paying him is beyond corrupt, let alone exploiting a child as an accessory on top of all the other vile things they did. His sister needs to be taken from them asap. Not setting up a trust or account for their futures is sickening, basically tossing him out once he gets too old without a penny or a foundation because they ruined his relationships with his real family.. wow.
Kind of cos of teh situation, but if any other artist had their child in a video you wouldn't expect them to be paid for it.
@@7Lace77Yeah, because children are unpaid workers, right? That's insane. Besides, that was the whole point of them going with them. To work for them. They should've been paid pure and simple. This was just child slavery.b
@@darkerdaemon7794 It should be one way or teh other. However, it appears Die Antwoord seem to expect teh best of both. Either he should be a paid worker and expect royalties, or an adopted child and receive financial support. As an adopted child, you wouldn't necessarily expect them to be paid, but he should be financially supported.
@@7Lace77 You would when the whole point of fostering them was to use them for work. The mother should've written a contract with them because no matter how you try and slice it, this is just beyond corrupt and wrong. If I was using my own child in a video I would make sure they got paid for it.
@@darkerdaemon7794 I think we mostly agree. However, I don't think I would pay my child for appearing in a video with me, which is where we seem to disagree. I don't think Tokkie should necessarily be paid either if that was teh case, but he seems to have been used as a worker and not paid for it. A child in a video isn't too different from a mate doing you a favour and partcipating to help you out. They could be paid, but not essential and depending on teh situation and any agreements made.
So even though Blomkamp's screenplay for Chappie is not at all releated, it's really weird how closely that movie mirrors Gabriel's life. Chappie gets adopted, raised to be a gangsta, to be hateful and violent, to steal for his parents, eventually learns his dad is a bad man, etc. etc. Really weird.
Oh shit that’s deep
Was looking for a comment like this!
That's REALLY sad
Weird or planned? 🤔
Dude.. You're so right... reading this gave me goosebumps!!
It's amazing how hearing someone speak so openly can change your whole perspective. This is so harrowing. He's showing so much strength. I hope he gets his sister back soon and that they can all be happy and free and together again.
Poor dude. At 33 and just escaping from a similar hell dude. Congrats. We got this man.
I hope you made it!
This man is a treasure! He’s so level headed and down to earth even after all this. I’d love to see him flourish in his own career! Bless you g stay strong ❤
Facts bro
So, you are also a satanist?
Me too🙂
WoW I had alway wondered what became of Tokkie. I'm sure I'm not the only one who assumed he was out there livin it up 💰...It's absolutely insane and disgusting that Ninja and Yolandi exploited him like this, trying to make it seem like they were rescuing this poor child who was abandoned and unwanted. This guy has a pure heart and seems like a cool dude, he 1000% deserves residuals from DA. Glad you are able to give Tokkie this moment to show the world who HE IS and share his dreams and talents. You got this man...DA needs to pay up!!!
Royalties for being an extra in a video? That’s not how it works pal.
The Hills have Eyes is not just a Movie
He should accept nothing even if offered.. it's blood money
@@Disabled-adventures oof you’re one of those.
@@Disabled-adventures He's not a blurry random face, he's their child. Have some standards!
So weird how the ritual aspect is not getting more traction. Seems oddly strange how common it seems. SRA is a real thing.
What an impressive guy. To go through all of that, what they put him through and hes still so kind and gentle. What a golden soul.
When I say I was a huge Die Antwoord fan I mean that band was the only one I’d listen to for about a year and a half. Saw them live , had a framed autograph of Ninja and Yolandi and I’m completely done and over with them after seeing this. You can’t treat people like fn style accessories. The strangeness they project is a facade and they were willing to ruin this young man’s life to keep it going.
I’ll never listen to another note from them. Keep your head up Tokkie ,frauds need you far more than you need them. I wish you the best.
I knew from the first second that these people where batshi* crazy and beyond evil. You'd have to be blind not to see the degeneracy.
I am random but I will say Yolandi is a very nice person. The other guy, I don't even want to talk about it. They phoned me once in 2021 after seeing one of my videos which I've now taken down, of me freestyling and speed rapping. I'm too old for the shit anyway.
I've heard Yolandi is NOT a nice person and Tokkie's testimonials prove those two are fake AF as long as they need to be and when they've used you up you no longer have value to them and are flushed like the POS they perceived you to be all along.
@@jackburton6330 She isn't nice she was an adult woman who over seen this abuse and let it continue. She benefitted from Tokkis abuse and human trafficking. Just because someone is nice to you doesn't mean they are nice to everyone, you must always remember that. Allowing her adopted son to take drugs and party with adults and be used as a literal slave and driver for them. No. Yolandi isn't getting away with this either. Both of them broke ethics and both of them are to blame for this. Do not come here and try to defend these people the reason they aren't in prison for their crimes is because people defend them. Enough. They are both evil dark people who messed this poor kids life up. That's not right.
@@xxxxOS I don't think @Jack Burton was defending her,, he was just saying she could be a nice person. And having been a person for 30 odd years now I know there are very many layers to a humans personality.. not to say that they didnt seriously fuck up with the raising of this kid and that they don't deserve some serious punishment for the abuse he and his sister suffered!! Still doesn't mean she couldn't be nice at times.
Much love and peace Tokkie! You sound like a fantastic human being!
That guy is a real one for coming out of that much abuse with such a chill and positive demeanor. They didn’t break his spirit 🥺
Such a pure person who was corrupted with fake love and a way to help his family out of the struggle. Just to be exploited,humiliated and discarded... hopefully he can get things back together for himself and family
I was abused by my dad from birth to 12 years old. When i was 12 he tried to hit me so i stood up to him! My brother's still blame me for him leaving..I was a child! Both my brothers older then me.
As soon as he turned 18 they dumped him. Grooming at its finest. Those 2 robbed this boy the best yrs with his mother and ruined their family 🤬 shame on you.
This is massive, the allegations made against them always seem to be swept under the rug. This however, might have an actual chance of seeing those two prosecuted.
No chance, they are protected by the group that must not be named.
@@Martin_Hermann and who might that be?
@@tclfan0180 it’s the eskimos. International Eskimo cabal
@@Axestothesky *Eskimo hand rubbing intensifies 👏 🥶
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It's really awful to hear how him and his sister have been treated :(
When tokkie said that sometimes he gets suicidal but takes sleeping pills to make that go away is relatable why do we want to leave but cant leave our families alone
it breaks my heart just listening to him, no anger in him still. He did it for his mom. we can finally hear his side and to be treated like this! I hope he gets what he truly deserves bless him and his family!
I used to be a music producer/ghost writer for the entertainment industry until I got in deep enough to see how dark the industry is and came to the conclusion that most celebrities are sick and should not be worshipped. I now make and sell beats to up and coming artists while warning them of the parels of the mainstream music industry.
Still making beats? 😎🙌
@@territmoderitmo9190 Yes. You need some?
You can't get to the top without being a depraved Satanist.
@@hitzoneproductions7858 you have some platform, to hear it?
Mainstream is dying out. People can make music, movies and other forms of entertainment on the same level as the big wigs now. And free of their tainted and evil brainwashing.
Glad you got out of that cess pool and still do what you enjoy.
I never felt good about this group. Tookie you are so beautiful inside and out . Thank you for being so brave and I have so much respect for you for speaking out and being so real . I can see you are like some sort of angel and I am sure you have a wonderful and powerful life ahead of you. So many people have respect for you. You are protected by your good heart and those who love you.
Someone please explain how Die Antword became so popular!? Why must they be the representatives of South African music?
Zheani introduced me to them, and I ended up down the rabbit hole on what shit ppl they were. Lots of people said Zheani was lying and what not, but after hearing this and others stories of them, also seeing video of how they are to "friends" and other musicians, it's insane. I can't believe it's taken this long for people to realize what horrid people they are.
I hate to judge people off their music and how they act, but theyve ALWAYS given me bad vibes. I listen to arists who say things they dont mean that are nasty, but Die Antwood has always felt different. They literally look like junkies who got famous off acting wild and praying on many poor communities. I imagine if they were in a different country, they might not be as huge. This guy said in the interview, theyre like the most successful arists in SA, wouldnt be the case other places. They're not mentally right and having freewill to do and act however they want without consequences has made them feel safe to continue to act awful.
I stopped supporting them after Zheani came out. The evidence from everywhere suggests that they are just super shitty people. And much off their "brilliant" art is ripped off from other artists allegedly.
They are criminals not shifty people.
@@naiakiki they're shitty people but no evidence that zheani put forward was actually substantial and 99% of it was hearsay, it was everyone else providing proper evidence.
They probably choose empaths with no assertive qualities.
I think it's creepy how people say Yolande and Sixteen are 'artistic individuals' etc but actually they turned Sixteen into a replica of her mum.
Naming her that in the first place is a huge red flag, imo.
Much love to you Tokkie! I could totally see you as a model, your face is so unique and I can think of you being a model for many designers
I think these allegations are true, especially at the fact that “Hugh Jackman” a Hollywood star on the set of Chappie and many others claimed that “Ninja” was evil and violent. Smh
This man seems like the kindest softest soul. I am blown away by his humbleness and love for his mother and family.
He is so well spoken. I truly enjoyed listening to him. My heart goes out to this man who endured inhumane conditions at the hands of people who were supposed to care.
Poor lad... He got used & abused by the fucked up freaks... I can't stand the Satanic evil bastards !! 😈👹
Why would he not be well spoken?
@@loganmcallister4635 most people these days aren’t.
I put that down to a good upbringing.
@@bipolarroller2889 by his mother
He’s like not even trying to make them look bad. He’s just been honest. It’s so awful he’s been used this way
When he said how people would tell him it's "his life" I started to cry. At 9 years old, to be taken away from your bio mum... There is no say when your a kid. This is heartbreaking. I hope die Antwoord pay him what he rightfully deserves and leave him the f alone. I hope he gets the right therapy and support after this. ❤
Edit: even him saying "yeah it's my life" it's as if he holds so much guilt and self blame and doubt. So many different emotions when going through abuse. It IS NOT, WAS NOT AND NEVER WILL BE HIS FAULT. Not at any age would it have been his fault, let alone NINE.
Tokki's childhood is classic child abuse,and how his family was torn apart,how sad,he should write a book,and get an agent,someone trustworthy.i wish him the very best,what a kind soul❤️✌️🙏
Tokki is a sweet man, I hope he has found peace and happiness with his family 😢❤ I used to be a huge Die Antwoord fan, but never again. They have done too many terrible things...
Just a reminder, this story has everything a 70's cult would have, forced social isolation for prolonged times for absolute control, substances consumption to generate dependance, a speech about a single rule to governate the whole group, and a curtain to not elevate external suspicions.
I saw this unfold in realtime(via the internet of course). As soon as I saw Tokkie in his second video of theirs and how they made him look(lighting, scenery, make-up, etc.) I knew they were only exploiting him for his unique qualities and not in a good way. I was hoping he would at least live well because of it if not get paid like he should. But no he got adopted, and I saw a "have you seen the kid we keep locked in the basement?" Type situation brewing. And low and behold it turned into that in a year or two.
You’re one of the only commenters who saw the game from the start. I always disliked DA. They screamed satanic abusive idiots from get
Poor lil guy. His heart is strong to be so calm and optimistic now.
Damn, yeah, luckily he didn’t become a victim to nature and lack of nurture
I mean, he is a victim, but he doesn’t have a victim as a whole personality
@@emilyannamanda he doesn't seem to be a professional victim. IDK anything about the man tbh 😐🤷🏼♀️
same
This was such a gracious, wonderful and genuine interview. Toki is so mature, self aware , kind and intelligent. My heart is ripped into pieces after watching this. I’ve been following the whole case of Die Antwoord for years now and I am desperate to see justice served to those foul monsters. More action needs to be taken ! The fact that Toki even confirmed that Zheania is the girl in the video he was shown by ninja, should be enough!!!!!!!!! This is so devastating
It's strange how knowing the truth about someone changes your perception of them. I went from thinking Die Antwoord were unique on an artisitic level to being disgusted by the very art I once appreciated. I know shouldn't feel that way, but I feel as if supporting their art is supporting their abusive reality.
Ninja was interested in Zheani Sparkes (the woman he allegedly assaulted) because she resembled his then 8 year old daughter.
He’s so soft spoken which is incredible knowing he’s been through hell. Bless his heart and prayers to him and his family❤
Just curious would you expect people who have gone thru hell to be loud?
THIS is what becoming a man actually looks like. Tokkie is so brave for speaking out against these monsters. After seeing all the pedophilia and abuse and homophobia and more that Yolandi and ninja engage in, I’m hoping the rest of their kids escape okay. Tokkie stay strong! The truth will set you free!!!
I remember the first time I saw a video from them
it was uglyboy
The tune was catchy and would get stuck in my head
The video however creeped me out
All that satanic stuff isnt clever or edgy its sick
I've worked in the music industry for years and I'm sick of the constant bombardment of satanic shit
It's cringe. Trying to hard to look like they have some sort of influence on the world
Look at them. Do they look like loving caring parents to begin with? Money doesnt create good people, money shows you who they really are
Tokkie is so precious. I am so glad he turned out to be aware of things and able to answer and talk through his experiences and I’m praying that throughout his life he is able to heal his mind for his dreams and live a happy and fulfilling life
This just breaks my heart. I cant even begin to imagine the level of trauma he must have from all of these experiences.
Your interview skills are amazing!!!
Tokkie is also such a strong, interesting, resilient human being. Can't wait to watch part II right now!
Tokkie seems so chill coming from so much chaos and pain.
Wish him all the best ❤
im with you but when you were confused about "you were 16 AND ALONE in THE HOUSE?!" i had to giggle. completely normal in most parts of the world.
Right?
Good God so many reaches.
I was babysitting at 10. And I did a great job.
He was emphasizing how neglected they were, not that he was scared or too young. He's saying it was a very "anything goes" type of environment when he attacked his brother. Don't use just 1 layer of your brains, please!
@@ddl4374who ever let a 10 year old baby sit is an absolute brain dead sub human.
I have waited so long for this...thank you for giving Tokkie a voice. I have followed and shared their story for years, felt the pain induced by those two predators. How anyone can respect Die Antwoord is beyond me. SHARE this out, everybody please.
As a former Die Antwoord fan, I stand with Gabriel. You are loved, TOKKIE 🖤
So people get canceled for unsubstantiated accusations of sexual assault against consenting adults but this band can keep on chugging despite overwhelmingly credible claims of child abuse and neglect?
My entire heart 💔
He carries himself very well for what he's gone through.
Lots of healing vibes and love your way Tokkie ❤️