The movements look like they're all 2824-2/SW-200 based. 2:42, 3:54, 4:395:23 are all Sellita SW-200-1s. 6:31 and 7:02 are ETA 2824-2s. Note the notches in the rotor near the central bearing - an ETA hallmark for the 2824-2. You can tell which movement is in a watch from the engraving near the balance wheel. In addition to the model numbers, the Sellita movements have the stylized Sellita S and the ETA movements have the ETA logo etched in.
First of all, glad to meet another enthusiast who likes Movado! It was actually the beauty of a vintage Movado museum classic that first got me into the hobby! I do think it's a shame that nowadays, Movado has primarily sold out by focusing on fashion over their rich history of design and quality. Both their quartz watches and their automatics are nice, but as you say very overpriced. Personally, I like targeting the secondary market for deep discounts
I just happened to find your channel while looking for info on the 608B caliber on the Movado Datron. Not sure if that watch existed when you did this video. But one thing is for sure: they don’t really do a good job of transparency when it comes to their movements.
Movado quartz watches are actually very well built and they use ETA's higher end movements. They last a very long time and very thin. I like their classic museum watches and you can find them with good discounts on the grey market.
I agree with them being over priced. I visited an outlet store for both my Celestograf and Museum and paid around $200 each. Way better than the $800 sticker. Even gray market isn’t that good!
I like Movado, but the prices have been a serious issue over the years. I worked at Kay's Jewelers and most of my customers would go for Bulova instead because of variety and reasonable price. Grey market for sure!
A diver with only 5 atmos-rate is dissapointing. Other than that, yhey look nice and being swiss the price isn't very steep. The movement might be a ETA 2824 modified?
Too bad someone did not lend you some Movado Autos for this. It's way different having then in your possession. Good video brother. As a Movado fan and having vintage and modern one of quartz they are great. Obviously never pay retail. I want an automatic but ther are way to much money. Have to assume ETA movements in them. Keep up great content brother.
5ATM for a near grand for a watch, ouch! Don’t know much about this brand admittedly, but doesn’t strike me as something I would pay that much money for. Thanks for the video, learning more about other brands all the time. This one doesn’t speak to me, but your videos do! Thanks m8
@@AvgJoeWatchReviews dying among watch collectors but definitely not dying from a lack of business and that's apparent from their financial statements.
Man, that Heritage Series in black with the fauxtina looks good, but I have seen enough of the depreciation these things take so I would only consider buying pre-owned. I think my main issue with Movado always has been, for the money, I would rather have so many other options out there. Great vid bro! 😎🍻👍
A Dive “looking” watch with unknown “swiss” movement, only 5 atm for $800? You could get several 200 meter automatic divers with Japanese or Swiss movements. No thanks
I would say that these are definitely overpriced. I was able to make out on one of the movements was definitely a Seilitta SW-200, not sure if they all are. That dive style watch only has 50m WR. Shows that it’s really a fashion watch. Most of these are more about looks then function definitely not my thing. For these prices, so many more interesting watches that I think are much better values.
I like the 1881, 39,5 mm model with the blue textured dial best - the rest doesn´t speak to me at all. I think True 2022 puts it right by saying " none of them tickle my pickle and I would never consider buying either" .
I’m personally a diver fan and I found the price of their diver most competitive despite its subpar water resistance rating. Movado doesn’t tickle the pickle as it used to 20 years ago. 😂
Bought a Movado a long time ago. Would never buy another Movado and wouldn't even take one for free. I don't straight up dislike a lot of brands but I hate Movado. I hate their marketing techniques, their pricing, their quality, and just about everything else about them. For the same price you can get into Hamilton, Oris, Ball, Seiko, or Longines.
Movado watches are beautiful but their power reserve is a joke, 30 to 40 hrs at the most. If I pay 2000$ for a watch, I want at least 72-80hrs power reserve. This is something Movado refuse to do or unable to do. The quality of the watch is amazing for the price though, specially the quartz ones.
I agree with you that the quartz movements are way overpriced. A few of the automatic movements are outrageous but a few I found to be fair. Great video. I don’t see anyone else doing this topic. Nice work!!!
If you take a better look through the display back on the autos you'll see "SW 200-1" marque along the movement edge by the balance wheel. That's the maker's marque for the Sellita SW 200-1 movement, a 26 jewel ETA 2824-2 clone. Movado, like many others now, are using their own movement caliber numbering instead of using the movement manufacturer's caliber number -- to obscure what movement they're using. The watch snobs would turn their noses up at it not being an ETA -- notwithstanding the fact that Movado cannot get ETA movements at any price. The Movado quartz watches are grossly overpriced. The autos with the Selltta are (IMHO) overpriced, but not nearly as much as their quartz. The price points on their autos with the Selitta SW 200-1 inside aren't completely out of line with the high end of some other known brands. Come to your own conclusions. Now you know what Movado is using . . . and you should ALWAYS be able to find the movement maker's marque by the balance wheel. That's the first place a watchmaker will look when preparing to work on a mechanical movement.
They are certainly better value [except that 2,4k model[ than their quartz range but none of them tickle my pickle .and would never consider buying either .
The movements look like they're all 2824-2/SW-200 based.
2:42, 3:54, 4:39 5:23 are all Sellita SW-200-1s.
6:31 and 7:02 are ETA 2824-2s. Note the notches in the rotor near the central bearing - an ETA hallmark for the 2824-2.
You can tell which movement is in a watch from the engraving near the balance wheel. In addition to the model numbers, the Sellita movements have the stylized Sellita S and the ETA movements have the ETA logo etched in.
First of all, glad to meet another enthusiast who likes Movado! It was actually the beauty of a vintage Movado museum classic that first got me into the hobby! I do think it's a shame that nowadays, Movado has primarily sold out by focusing on fashion over their rich history of design and quality. Both their quartz watches and their automatics are nice, but as you say very overpriced. Personally, I like targeting the secondary market for deep discounts
They’ve definitely lost some of their horological roots and went the fashion brand route.
I do like Movado. But long for their past. But hope full of the future🤔🥰
Where can you get a Kingmatic repaired or serviced?
I just happened to find your channel while looking for info on the 608B caliber on the Movado Datron. Not sure if that watch existed when you did this video. But one thing is for sure: they don’t really do a good job of transparency when it comes to their movements.
Welcome. 🙏 They really don’t which is a red flag in my opinion.
Another solid video! Keep up the good work bro!
My man! Thank you so much.
Stock images don't do them justice. I don't pay retail for them, but they are a solid value at the outlet store prices.
Movado quartz watches are actually very well built and they use ETA's higher end movements. They last a very long time and very thin. I like their classic museum watches and you can find them with good discounts on the grey market.
The discounted prices are where the deals are to be had. They’re beautiful watches.
Could I know the thickness of Movado Vizio automatic (44mm diameter)?
Black Friday deals on an outlet is the best price I've gotten on a brand new watch
I still think that if it was my money I would be looking at Oris or Longines I'm still not sold on Movado at all.
Interesting video though.
Couldn’t agree more my friend! I actually mentioned this in a few comments before this.
I agree with them being over priced. I visited an outlet store for both my Celestograf and Museum and paid around $200 each. Way better than the $800 sticker. Even gray market isn’t that good!
That blue dial piece looks great!!
Really does man!
I just bought a 1881 I personally love it the movement is a ETA 2824-2
I like Movado, but the prices have been a serious issue over the years. I worked at Kay's Jewelers and most of my customers would go for Bulova instead because of variety and reasonable price. Grey market for sure!
Agreed bro. Thanks bud!
A diver with only 5 atmos-rate is dissapointing. Other than that, yhey look nice and being swiss the price isn't very steep. The movement might be a ETA 2824 modified?
Too bad someone did not lend you some Movado Autos for this. It's way different having then in your possession. Good video brother. As a Movado fan and having vintage and modern one of quartz they are great. Obviously never pay retail. I want an automatic but ther are way to much money. Have to assume ETA movements in them. Keep up great content brother.
Thanks for watching!
Sellita SW200 actually.
5ATM for a near grand for a watch, ouch! Don’t know much about this brand admittedly, but doesn’t strike me as something I would pay that much money for. Thanks for the video, learning more about other brands all the time. This one doesn’t speak to me, but your videos do! Thanks m8
Movado was a hot watch in the early to mid 2000. Died out and never regained the steam it once had. Still has its loyalists though.
@@AvgJoeWatchReviews dying among watch collectors but definitely not dying from a lack of business and that's apparent from their financial statements.
Are they trying to compete with Ebel and Nivada? Because if it is so, they better embrace before the impact!
They own Ebel and Concord so no...
Macy's has the green version of the Calendoplan for 885. I like it!
Those are nice! Would rather have a Longines Hydro for that price though. 😉
They’re always on sale
Just not convinced by the brand. For the money there are so many other good (better?) options. Well worth doing the video to kick off discussion 👏👏👏
Agreed man! Well said.
Man, that Heritage Series in black with the fauxtina looks good, but I have seen enough of the depreciation these things take so I would only consider buying pre-owned. I think my main issue with Movado always has been, for the money, I would rather have so many other options out there. Great vid bro! 😎🍻👍
Thanks! Definitely would buy these used. The depreciation is an excellent point.
I don't think the calendoplan is a divers watch,there is an automatic diver on their site,series 800,200 M water resist.
You are correct.
My husband just bought me 2 movado. They are beautiful.
They are beautiful watches!
A Dive “looking” watch with unknown “swiss” movement, only 5 atm for $800? You could get several 200 meter automatic divers with Japanese or Swiss movements. No thanks
I thought they were owned by the fossil group so that movement is probably the stp 1-11
Ouch at the prices. 😕 It's a competitive price range for sure and Movado isnt the first brand that comes to mind if I want to buy a new watch.
Exactly. It’s not 2005 anymore. 😂
Id rather save up and buy omega speedmaster then buy a Movado
True story!
Thanks Joe
I don't think I'm a buyer at these prices.
Don’t blame you. Thanks for watching.
Some good pieces bud 😁👍 but I agree the quartz models are definitely overpriced. And I'm almost positive they use Sellita movements 😉🍻
Thanks bro!
Its got no numbers on it... i got a waych right here, paid 3.99 for it, and its even got a calculator...
Billy bob thorton said it best.
Some of those pieces don't look too bad, definitely overpriced as far as retail goes. Thanks for the video brother!
Thanks bro.
I would say that these are definitely overpriced.
I was able to make out on one of the movements was definitely a Seilitta SW-200, not sure if they all are.
That dive style watch only has 50m WR. Shows that it’s really a fashion watch. Most of these are more about looks then function definitely not my thing.
For these prices, so many more interesting watches that I think are much better values.
Their movements are not gold plated and I am not happy about their cost cutting.
Movado is like that gorgeous 80s model that was extremely high maintenance, but the looks faded and is really not worth it nowadays.😁
My fav - and the one Movato that is tempting - is the Museum Red Label 38mm. Fun 80's deco / Egyption vibes :)
Great round up!
Thanks Norman. Liking that Spaceview. Congrats and welcome to the club.
@@AvgJoeWatchReviews Wooooot! 🍸🍸
I like the 1881, 39,5 mm model with the blue textured dial best - the rest doesn´t speak to me at all. I think True 2022 puts it right by saying " none of them tickle my pickle and I would never consider buying either" .
I’m personally a diver fan and I found the price of their diver most competitive despite its subpar water resistance rating. Movado doesn’t tickle the pickle as it used to 20 years ago. 😂
If they sold them for what they are truly worth then yeah its fine but pricing a watch at 1 or 2k and discounting it 60% makes it a brutally awful buy
Looks like Movado is trying to step their game up! But the price is still a bit high and they don’t hold any value.
Agreed.
Bought a Movado a long time ago. Would never buy another Movado and wouldn't even take one for free. I don't straight up dislike a lot of brands but I hate Movado. I hate their marketing techniques, their pricing, their quality, and just about everything else about them. For the same price you can get into Hamilton, Oris, Ball, Seiko, or Longines.
I’m with you regarding the watches you can for the money. Thanks for watching.
Movado watches are beautiful but their power reserve is a joke, 30 to 40 hrs at the most. If I pay 2000$ for a watch, I want at least 72-80hrs power reserve. This is something Movado refuse to do or unable to do. The quality of the watch is amazing for the price though, specially the quartz ones.
I agree with you that the quartz movements are way overpriced. A few of the automatic movements are outrageous but a few I found to be fair. Great video. I don’t see anyone else doing this topic. Nice work!!!
Thank you sir!
Very nice
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Aluminum bezel is a joke for 900
5 ATM on a diver? Why? Especially at that price range, seems a little chintzy
Good point!
I had higher ATM on my 40$ fossil watch I got from Marshells. They had to go out of their way to make a diver with 5 ATM almost like a trolling joke.
If you take a better look through the display back on the autos you'll see "SW 200-1" marque along the movement edge by the balance wheel. That's the maker's marque for the Sellita SW 200-1 movement, a 26 jewel ETA 2824-2 clone. Movado, like many others now, are using their own movement caliber numbering instead of using the movement manufacturer's caliber number -- to obscure what movement they're using. The watch snobs would turn their noses up at it not being an ETA -- notwithstanding the fact that Movado cannot get ETA movements at any price. The Movado quartz watches are grossly overpriced. The autos with the Selltta are (IMHO) overpriced, but not nearly as much as their quartz. The price points on their autos with the Selitta SW 200-1 inside aren't completely out of line with the high end of some other known brands. Come to your own conclusions. Now you know what Movado is using . . . and you should ALWAYS be able to find the movement maker's marque by the balance wheel. That's the first place a watchmaker will look when preparing to work on a mechanical movement.
They are certainly better value [except that 2,4k model[ than their quartz range but none of them tickle my pickle .and would never consider buying either .
Agreed. The pickle reference is hilarious.
Any quartz watch is a waste of money...including Rolex and Cartier
Overpriced Tat…
I bought two in my past and they miss function a lot . Garbage 👎