BUILDING DESTROYED! NOW WHAT?
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Early January a big snow storm came through and dropped over 18 inches of snow. We noticed that the roof on our carport had collapsed, not letting the garage door go up. This is the second time this has happened
iowANFarmer, Ben Van Roekel, is a 2nd generation farmer in southern Iowa. His goal on RUclips is to showcase what young farmers have to offer to the agricultural community. He hopes to give the general public a glimpse into what life is like on an American corn, soybean, and hay operation. The channel will focus on farming equipment, repairs, precision ag, and daily operations on the farm. Join him in his daily trials and tribulations in the changing agricultural environment.
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Email: iowanfarmer52581@gmail.comto me! It's time to try and break in to see what the damage is on the inside.
Ben I like the last option to add on to the main shop , not cheap but its not going to get any cheaper as time goes on and you have some money from the car port to put down on it in the long run you will get more use out of it in the end.
Totally agree
Not gonna lie. I had Three Stooges or Laurel and Hardy vibes watching Colt and you with the strap and ladder....lol.
You should see us when there isn't a camera rolling
I would go with option 3 and make it tall enough you can get a tractor or combine in! And when you take the car port down I would definitely find a cattle guy around there and he could use that carport for a calf hut like in the middle of a pasture with all that spray foam it would be pretty warm!
Glad things inside the carport were not damaged! Snow gets heavy fast, coming from a guy from Michigan who shoveled it off barn roofs in late 70’s. When Colt is around I think things will get interesting. LOL
Definitely too much snow for this little carport!
i would demo it. If you want fast storage, containers 20' or 40', quick and easy to move around. Or there are lots of Garages being built now, that you can move in.
Probably just go for the whole garage
It was an interesting video to watch. No One Was Injured In The Making Of This Video 🤣😱
Only Colt's ego!
Always something! "Bottom of the carport...not mine!" I think the structure is beyond rescue....!
This video was total memories of jobs myself and friends tackled. Why pay someone else when we can do it ourselves. How hard can it be? 😂🤣😂. Loved everyone of them. Bob in Pennsylvania
Looks like it's toast to me, Ben.
I think all it needs is the butter now!
Rip it out and replace it with something that fits your needs better !
I would add on to the existing shop
Tear it down and pocket the money for a year or 2. Then do a bigger addition to your main shop. This way you have time to design it for what you want. Prices on materials are still coming down and once they equalize out you can build.
That’s a real option too!
You need to undo the Spring's on attention. Play the cables can come loose but be very careful. Cause there's a lot of tension on them springs
Yeah that's something we were wary of!
As a retired adjuster I would ask what is your recoverable depreciation if you replace it? I would remove it and add on to the original building with better supports.
Sounds like good advice to me!
My had same problem with a carport he built a peaked roof over top . Attached the the carport roof to the beams on the new roof. This was 20 years ago but it cost him 500 dollars to do it himself. Maybe contact your Amish builder and see what he comes up with.
Might be worth it to ask
I am pricing out a shed right now. Everything is so expensive. The people saying just tear it down have no idea of the cost to build new
I'm sure I'll find out soon enough
The problem with trying to repair it and it leaks is u have bigger problems with mold like Ben said
Make it worth your while. Do the lean-to!
People are really leaning that way!
Add on to the barn. You will regret it if you don't. Can't have too big of a barn.
Depends on what you want to do. I’d call J&I manufacturing in MacDill Oklahoma, tell them the deal, and they will help you out. I’ve bought my last two barns from them. Put them up myself because I have access to all kinds of pipe and tubing. They are good people, and have a heckuva place. It’s worth it just to see it. Not only that? They know a thing or two about buildings getting destroyed by weather. They had a tornado go through their yard two or three years ago.
Might have to look into that! But I think if I build anything it'll be a wood structure for now since it's going on to a wooden structure.
@@iowANFarmer , honestly, I’d tear it down amigo. Build you something you can use down the road. At some point you’ll need bigger and better. I bought a 60x80 18ft from them the last go around, used square tubing for the uprights, put anchor plate in the concrete where my uprights would go, got everything super square. And it’s been through several high winds and never moved. Our cotton strippers are 17.5 tall when they are in field mode and 15.7 in road mode.
Well certainly the most entertaining video tonight, laughing all the while you were planning your breaking in. Option 3, go big or go home!
Seems like the popular option!
hi ben,
as a builder i would add on to the back of your shop you only need three walls and match roof line.
add 20,40 or 60 feet somthing to think about.
My idea , get numerous Jacks and bring up together so it doesn’t tear it self apart
Jack and then put cables from side to side near the top and put screw jacks or make something that will go from the cable up to the trust. When these are all tight the strength. will 1,000 times greater may add some posts also
That's how we would fix it if we try
If you knew you weren't ever going to get another heavy snowfall, salvaging might work. But, we all know heavy snow will come sooner or later. Unsolicited opinion is to utilize that space for better integration with the big garage--whatever that may look like.
That what my heart is telling me too! But I don't know if my pocketbook is telling me that!!
@@iowANFarmer Maybe it has to be a pay/go type of project when finances allow it. Phase it in as possible.
@@margie6534 tentative plan is to call a few builders out for a bid to see what their thoughts/pricing might look like and go from there!
Add on to shop, beat route to go
That's what I'm leaning towards
I was going o say what's the chance of another snow storm destroying another building, living in Iowa, pretty good. ha ha ha.
100% lol
OMG! Always unwind the springs before you touch a garage door….
We don’t know how to to that, but we were very aware of the danger
Quality entertainment
We like to think so
In my opinion I would go with option 3 but what you could do is leave a third of it as open storage. Saves in the cost a bit with the option of closing in the open end at a later time
Sounds like option 4!
Demo!!! Then come up with a better plan as time and money work out.
Sounds like a solid idea
I think you will be happiest adding to the shop. Even adding across the entire front so you have alot more space.
I think you could be right!
Last option. Make it as big as you can.
You can sell it to a rancher. He could use it for a k
calf Shelter
I don’t think you could move it very good.
Ben you knoe, you can get those all day long at menards same day for like 2k ish. Or a lean to, I may not be some full-time carpenter, but if you come up with a plan and need some assistance give me a holler, work swing shift and like red and green say if they can't find ya handsome atleast they can find ya handy 🤣🤣🤣 btw ( I'll bring my own tools lol) 1 word of advice, in my opinion I have found that a person be better off if wanted to say ad a structure to just not attach it because sometimes regardless of how well you make things were either joining new and old either A it works but the headach, or B you get them random weird wet spots from snow sliding down, freezing and poping the new or old up.
Menards sells the carports for 2K?
@iowANFarmer lol depends on the size, but yea they have some of them in stock or atleast burlington, ia does 😁😁
As for breaking in OMG Colt i would done what Ben did LOL. Unfortunately ditch the shed, build lean shed n keep the tree, maybe put walls in later on lean shed?
I would scrap it it's strength is compromised if you repaired it you could not insure it or contents probably. Or price a replacement with the same footprint. and better roof trusses? Good luck.
What could possibly go wrong? Lol. You owe him a steak dinner
Most likely - or he will tell the story over and over and over!
I like the idea of building onto the main building I think the cost of trying to save the little building and the life you would get out of it wouldn't be worth it time and money. IN the long run, I think the money you invest in adding onto the main shop would be a greater return. You could do it in phases, such as build the roof one year, then add walls another year, etc. to help spread the cost out.
That's trashed. You could spend a whole lot of time and money trying to fix it but you'll end up basically rebuilding the whole thing to get it right. I'd say cut your losses on it and if you want to build an extension to the shop, you would end up with a better space more suitable to your needs.
That’s what I’m thinking
Could have loosened the the cable with the screw on that cross bar
Tear it down. Start fresh and give yourself a really good useable space. Think of it as an investment. If you’re on the fence, write out the pros and cons of a rebuild. I think long term your return on investment of the space for projects and or storage will be worth it. 🤔🤷♂️
I am probably agreeing with you!
Im with theguy that said scrap it
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Seems to me the structural integrity is too far gone to bother fixing.
As far as investing in a new build right now(personally)no way, not this year. (I’m not investing in anything except basic needs stock piles) bc of the ESG farming changes Biden’s pushing. We’ve seen what that’s done to farmers & food in Europe.
Hopefully the economy/regulations garbage pendulum swings back as fast as things collapsed very soon.
Might push it. Definitely agree that the structural integrity is gone!
build a lean too
Option 3
It’s a popular option
Dudes terit down build a leento
Seems to be the popular option!
Hope you can jack it
Tell Molly she needs to get a second job. You need a new garage. Hope she understands
I’d add on. Does it need to be as tall as existing?
As suggested do it in stages. If you need inspection do a lean to and finish it later
Take it down and add on to the shop
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The light gauge metal frame is fatigued already so even if you get it straightened back out it will not be as strong as it was new and likely end up cratered in a future storm. Option 3 sounds the most logical but costly. I had a shed this last year that a wind storm blew off half the roof. After debating it I fixed it instead of tearing it down and building it back stronger. Exactly one month later the second half blew off… I was really frustrated that I didn’t tear it down and was Jerry rigging a Jerry rig
That’s the definition of insult to injury!
Even the dog is looking at you like what the heck are these humans doing?
Little Colt in the bottom of the car port. 😂
Best bet shop addition it’ll be best in the long run. Plus it’ll better serve your needs for storage.
I couldn’t be disappointed in more storage!
You need to reset to zero. First, what are the requirements for a building in this location? If you didn't have insurance money would you build anything there? Second, what would be the return on an investment in a new building? Could the $ 5 or 6 K be better invested in your farm at a higher return on the investment? Can you borrow that much less and save the 7% interest cost on that borrowing? Netted out: The return on investment from the building would have to be higher than other projects on the farm to justify building a new building. I agree with you that putting more money into this building beyond tearing it down and hauling it away would need to compete with other uses of that same money especially when you, as with all farmers, borrow substantial amounts just to do farming.
That is very smart way of looking at it!
Scrap it
I have heard where people put paper, foam board, or something between the steel and spray foam and tin so the tin isn’t all stuck together with the foam down the road.
I’d save the tree and keep that spot for outside parking. Next to a building like that you will have snow issues unless roof lines match.
Yeah, now people use a wrap so the foam doesn’t go straight on the building!!
If you end up tearing it down use part of it for something at the pumpkin patch. Cause 20 years from now what ever you build will have a story
My mind has thought of that! What do you think we could use it for at the patch?
I was told by a dealer of those arch style sheds, that if you buy one in WI they have the arch spacing closer together to meet codes. Ive never actually looked into one of those myself, but might be something for you to check out.
Thanks for the advice! Not sure what we are going to do with it yet!
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Extend your ship and buy down the cost with your insurance payout. Good luck!🥶🇨🇦
So the vote is to build on?
Take it down, add on to the shed like you talked about. The higher sidewall and rollup door will be much nicer
Higher sidewall would sure hold a lot more of my equipment!
Take the insurance money , use as a nice down payment and add on, it’ll be safer and stronger than any separate building you would build to replace the car port which needs to be gone.
I feel that’s what a lot of people are thinking!
The trashed hoops are shot and beyond reasonable repair. I would trash it what to replace it with what only you know what you need.
I’m think you would be right! The hoops are looking worse for wear.
I think your best option is to just tear it down and build onto your existing shop. I think you would be money ahead in the long run even with it costing more money. This would be because you would have a better lean-to that would not be so vulnerable to the heavy snow. It would also be more useful. Too bad it happened again. Good thing you got a settlement for it though. Have a blessed rest of the week.
Great comment thank you!
Nice catch Woodrow 😂
Sleep on it ........... an answer will come .......
Might have to get a fortune cookie too
Wonder why farming is such a dangerous profession. 😂
Safety at its finest!
Build the lean-to
You would never regret just doing away with it and add on to your big building
On the bright side the electric is working 😂
Hey! That's expensive stuff!
she gone
Empty it out turn it into hay storage
It leaks!
You could demo the roof and add a pitched shingled or tin roof using trusses supported by stud walls built inside your existing metal clad walls.
Would that be cheaper than starting over?
@@iowANFarmer: I think that if you assembled an inner wall structure to support some on-site fabricated roof trusses, it would be cheaper than starting over plus you could continue to use your existing exterior walls that you could fasten to your interior stick framed walls that you would fasten to the floor with concrete lag bolts.
Somehow I see OSHA using the start of this video in training their field agents as to what qualifies as a violation. Enjoy your time in Louisville.
Do you think OSHA would have to contact me and pay me for my material then?
@@iowANFarmer Nahh, they'd levy a fine and have you pay for everything!
Another cheaper option would be to find a galvanized quansit building that uses the same size concrete pad you already have, 3-4 people can easily put up that size of building and you can do it yourself. Yes going to big lean to would be better but at a significant added cost.
Definitely option three, and you could do it in phases, if necessary. (Covered 'carport', enclosed carport, then insulated garage')
I would get rid it and add on to the shop if that is feasible
Going to have to get a few bids!
Do what you want!
I would throw it out and replace it with a new one that would make it easier for what I need to do with it.
At this point, it is dangerous if a major windstorm does come into your area is very prone just like your grandfather's home area which is the Northwood Iowa farmland area. Grandfather passed away past long time ago now!
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Take the roof off and put new taller support pillars along wals and put a new high pitched strong roof on !
Do you think I would be spending more money on it than it would be worth at that point?
Put 4x4 post every 4' for vertical supports and new top plate rafters on 16" centers to bear snow loads. You save the 3 insulated sides. Front door, if not a car, then sliding barn door at least 5' wide.. Insurance money will pay for most of it.
The option 3 is the best as things aren't getting cheaper and everyone always adding stuff. Can you attach to the shop and reuse some materials?
Tear it down, get a 20 ft shipping container for storage. When you decide to build something there you can drag the container to a new spot.
Demo it
Last option is what i was thinking
I think that sounds like a good option too!
I didnt expext a technotronic reference on your channel but here we are!
I had to google that, what point do you think I was being tecehnotronic?
Never mind! Pump up the jam!
Next time you need a Man Door to the Outside! 10:05
190% agree with that!
So sorry for laughing at you but you would make the worst burglar 😂
yeah, we aren't going to be invited to a OCEANS movie anytime soon.
Just pocket the money and go on with life
I could do that!
Option 3 sounds best for long term use
1: Next time you take an overhead door apart, take the tension off the spring(s) first while it is down. Very easy to do. I have used 1/2" re-bar or round tire irons to unwind them. If it were me, I would broom it and add on to the shop. I know money is always an issue, but even if you fix it, it will probably be gone in a few years for something better anyway.
I would not suggest that to anyone. One slip and you’d be hurt badly or worse ‼️
Apparently you have never worked on one. The springs are designed to have tension put on and taken off a 1/4 turn at a time with bars. If you slip, the spring is still contained on the roll up bar. It can't go anywhere. WAY SAFER THAN WHAT THEY DID!! @@johnwudarcki9315
We had never done anything like this, it was a learning experience
Obviously you've never worked on one!! How do you think that spring gets tension on it when you install it?@@johnwudarcki9315
what about looking at new roof on there
She gone. It's trashed.
Tear it down take the money and invest it into a different building that’s a cheap carport it’s not worth fixing if even possible witch is very unlikely
Not going to get an argument from me on that comment.