Who Birthed the Indus Valley Civilization? with Dr. Nathaniel Jeanson | Traced: Episode 8
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
- Are the ancient people from the Indus Valley related to modern-day Indians? What can Y-chromosome research tell us about ancestry? Does human DNA inform our understanding of biblical genealogies and history of India?
It’s groundbreaking scientific research that provides revolutionary discoveries about “race,” ethnicity, and even human history. And it’s only possible because the researcher, Harvard-trained Dr. Nathaniel Jeanson, starts with the history and the timeline God has given us in his Word.
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Wonderful research. I'm a South Indian Tamil and we have many evidences for being the descendants of Indus people. But the Aryan domination tries to suppress the truth. Interesting subject. Please do more. God bless you! ❤️
Yes the Indus Valley peoples moved south. But this guy knows nothing about genetics and you should stop listening to him.
@@sirchad9443 Actually he says the same thing. Watch the full video!
@@joannajoel I just finished watching the video and his conclusion was wrong once again.
The forest people are indigenous to the region and were mentioned in the Ramayana which took place 12,000 BCE.
@@sirchad9443 Ramayana? Is it a history?
@@joannajoel it is a story about history and contains facts.
Unfortunately as multiple versions came about the story changed.
Rama was real and became king but was not an avatar of Vishnu (that was made up in later versions). The story has scientific events and geographic locations and descriptions that are and have been provable.
It is history!
Thank you Doctor. Very important genetic history of peoples. I have been interested in Linguistic roots of countries. I am a Telugu person from Andhra Pradesh but lived in UK. Telugu language is a daughter of Sanskrit language. I found Italian language ha many Sanskrit words. Numerical one to ten are same in Italy and India. Father , mother etc are same. Both art and cooking are very related. Telugu language is called Italian of the East. Please look at Telugu origins to help your research. I am a Christian and take clues from Bible to understand todays science. Thank you.
Amen. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom!
There’s also a link between Italy and Persia. The last names are very Persian.
watch videos from this channel- spiritual truths telugu
first follow your own culture. instead of believing blindly in the whiteman. have some shame.
Telugu is not daughter of Sanskrit , Telugu is a Dravidian language.
Always looking forward to the next episode. All the information from genome analysis is so new and reveals things that we could not know in the past. True scientific investigation does this from time to time and revolutionizes our view of the world. The full impact of this knowledge will be seen years down the road.
The Human Genome Project was completed years ago and shows these idiots incorrect. Go figure?
I'm keen for the next installment thanx for such great research :)
This is one of my favorite channels
Mine too!
It's not Dravidian but we are Tamils. Tamil is one of the Ancient Language which is almost 3500 years old. It is one of the Ancient Language in India compared to every other languages of India. Tamil is still in use by the natives and all over the world by Tamil People. There are many clans under Tamil Language.
I want to read more about Tamil language, Where should I start from ?
hiii Tamil guy here. Thanks for doing this. God bless you guys.
I would love to sit down with a coffee and some paper, bible, Nathaniel jeanson and his research, and discuss and explore a few optional hypothesis for the first thousand years post Noah. It seems to me that really up to about 1AD the number of common ancestors are very small. It is important to remember every split represents an individual rather than a people group. I think a lot of these individuals early in the tree may well be able to be identified.
I am in tears, just a grain of sand among the sands of all the earth- GODs promise to Abraham, count the stars if you can, the father of many nations. What a All Mighty GOD we serve.
Just got the book. Putting this out hoping Dr. Jeanson might see it. Please make the color plates available as downloadable files. Would be nice to have them out to reference without flipping back and forth in the book.
I would love to see monthly, semi-annual, or annual updates to this research, perhaps even an annual edition update of the book (if warranted by new information)
thanks again for another stimulating lecture on Genetics and how it confirms the testimony of the Scriptures
I would love for you to do the Polynesian people. This is really interesting.
@@chareekoy1212 And this coralates with the Human Genome Project?
He said asians
Dr. Jeanson is a very intelligent man ,so he probably already knows this. But…. I’ve noticed a few Tagalog words are the same as Indian words, as well as mean the same thing. For example: mahal = love, and anak = child. So my question is: are the two civilizations related some how?
Very interesting!
Bravo! Was taught a little, by My Beloved Mother, regarding Our origins, on Her 'side', of the Family. (My Beloved Father, was predominantly, Scandinavian.) Did some study of My own, and all-together, these CONFIRM-for-Me, the TRUTH, of the HOLY-Scriptural-narrative! Great Work, My Brothers! Peace & Blessings!! :)
The conversation on R1A & genetics is heavily flawed for the following reasons:
(1) There is a higher concentration of R1A in India than there is in Europe. This is not how genetics work, (unless the European civilisation was somehow wiped out) . As people travel out, they move a high concentration of gene pool, to a lower concentration of gene pool. The concentration of R1A in Europe compared to India support the OUT of INDIA THEORY. That is, Indians moved out of India to towards Europe.
(2) The ARYAN MIGRATION THEORY (AMT) is based on a MANUFACTURED language called PROTO, for which there is 0% evidence ! PROTO was invented by a Harvard Professor (i think called Reich) as an ABSTRACTION LAYER, so that he could FIT THE DATA in an attempt to justify AMT.
However, the Harvard Professor blatantly IGNORES that Sanskrit is the BEST FIT for PROTO based on available evidence! (This is despite Europeans using SANSKRIT to plug the gaps & holes in European languages for over 100 years).
The AMT is based on PROTO, which is 100% manufactured. Also genes move from a high concentration to a low concentration as people from a geographic location, out towards other lands.
LOL this hindo propaganda, R1a is from the north central Asian steppe, closer to ukraine.
@@SimpleMinded221 And was then an ARYAN INVASION/MIGRATION (or whatever) from the STEPPES to India ??? And then are you saying, those Aryan people give India the very sophisticated Sanskrit Language,.. akso produced the Rig Vedas.. and made the SANATAN DHARMA civilisation and culture ?????
Are you saying the OUT OF INDIA THEORY is false?
Are you also saying the names of significant places in Europe, (eg river Danube) whose ORIGINS can be found be traced back to Sanskrit and similiar names of rivers found in the Rig Vedas, is all coincidence??
@@sanjayshah4372 yes thats correct. the jungle dwelling natives in india were furry poo-flinging monkeys called vanara who were civilized by the aryans when they came. given the propensity for street shitting and dumping garbage in the local water supplies today.. I'd say the aryan part has waned a bit.
Every Indian has some percentage of Indus Valley DNA (autosomal - 10 to 60 %). But South Indians have more of it. Indus Valley Civilisation was built by the ancestors of Dravidians. Indo Europeans have R1a Y haplogroup, not H. People who have the same Y-DNA significantly differ in the autosomal DNA. India is a melting pot, so an analysis purely based on Y-DNA doesn't tell you the whole story.
I wonder how he came to the conclusion that Y-DNA haplogroup L is Abrahamic? It is either J1 or R1a or may be E1b (check Jewish genetics). The Bible says Noah's descendants came to Shinar from the East. That would be India. It is possible Abraham (or his ancestors) had links to Indus Valley Civilisation. In IVC they discovered a priest king sculpture who wears a head band and arm band similar to Totaphot (see Deut 6:8). Also there is a Jewish legend that some of Keturah's children went to India.
In any case, genetics don't matter. Whilst our earthly origin may be from the dust of the earth, we also possess a heavenly "neshama" (breath) of God Himself within us. The world is not my home, I am just passing through. I am a pilgrim and a stranger, which means I came from elsewhere, and living here for a purpose and only for a limited time. Our eternal home is in the higher realms.
Therefore Abraham was called to forsake his country, kindred and father's house, and disown all his earthly bonds. His ultimate test was the offering of Isaac. We are the children of Abraham by faith.
Your claim is WRONG
You mis understood everything
South Indians don't possess "more" Indus valley ancestry than North Indians
It is the other way around
Look at Narasimhan et al 2019 paper IVC ancestry is 70% in Ancestral North Indians but 55% in Ancestral South Indians
About this video👇
All the points made in this video is utterly baseless
Indian population's ancestral component had been shaped long ago like 4000 years ago
The speaker just mixed up everything and clueless
@@theanonymous7171 you are correct about the percentages. Here's what the paper says. "After the IVC’s decline, this population mixed with northwestern groups with Steppe ancestry to form the “Ancestral North Indians”(ANI) and also mixed with southeastern groups to form the “Ancestral South Indians” (ASI), whose direct descendants today live in tribal groups in southern India. Mixtures of these two post-IVC groups- the ANI and ASI drive the main gradient of genetic variation in South Asia today."
When I said North India, I had the people with Steppe ancestry in mind, but I should have been more accurate. As you can observe from the paper, mixing of Steppe (R1a YDNA) with IVC folk happened AFTER the decline of IVC. So those who came from the Central Asian Steppes did not build the IVC. Also paper says explicitly, "Steppe ancestry in modern South Asians is primarily from males and disproportionately high in Brahmin and Bhumihar groups." As for ANI and ASI, they do not exactly correspond 1-to-1 with the modern North Indian and South Indian populations. Todays North Indians have significant ASI contribution. For example Rajputs have 38% ASI as mentioned in the paper (see fig).
There is another nuance I observed. Some have R1a Y-haplogroup, but do not necessarily have Steppe autosomal DNA.
As for this video, I can agree with you that a lot of baseless claims are made. This is because of the ridiculous position taken by some fundamentalist Christians that the universe is 6000 years old, by making a false claim that that is what the Hebrew Bible says. Most of these guys can't read a single word in the Hebrew Bible.
@@TheHebrewBible I have read the whole study and also read their full 300+ page supplementary information and looked at the data, admixture modelling and etc more than 2 times
I do have some disagreements with them
Some of their claims actually don't have basis in the data they have uncovered
Their data simply don't support some of their claims
Steppe entered after IVC I know that but there is not ancient DNA evidence for that. Just 2 R1a in swat valley samples which is just 5 percent but in swat we have many steppe female lineages but in that paper they twist this by saying modern distribution suggests otherwise
So they is no clear indication for male dominant narrative and most importantly we still don't know what language IVC people spoke
The difference between Indus periphery and ASI is the later has lot of AASI while the former doesn't
This is a key factor we have to understand
@@theanonymous7171 so are you arguing for Steppe contribution to IVC? I personally don't think Steppe contribution was significant, even if their presence was there. I am R1a though 🙂 with significant IVC (autosomal).
Perhaps there could have been different ethnic and cultural groups in IVC. For example the priest-king with his head and arm band (similar to the Totaphot / Tefillin of the Jews) looks different from the dancing girl and Rudra in yogic posture.
Also Indian literature shows divergence of religious practice and thought, esp Sanskrit Vedas vs Tamil Agamas. I refer to esp the non-vedic Agamas. What we have today is syncretism of the past religions.
There are some Rabbis who suggest Abraham's connection to India (his wife Keturah's children). Others think Abraham's ancestor's came from India (IVC at that time). The priest-king figure of IVC looks Abrahamic to me, but may be I have a bias.
PS: Netanyahu is R1a, but quite distant from the Indian clade. Many Ashkenazi Levites (priestly family) are also R1a. But Ashkenazi and Sephardic Cohens (priests) are J1a or J2.
@@TheHebrewBible No
I am not saying steppe presence in IVC
I say based on what data we have we cannot come to any conclusion precisely
Initially, with the lower oceans, this would have been an easier area to access. I do wonder about this area, in regard to the Australia Aboriginals coming through to Australia.
Great job as always. Very very interesting.
Excellent.
Very interesting.
Seaborn invasions are still to this day the most difficult of all military operations. Must have been a real pain without air superiority.
You have worked so hard and will be important in history yourself for this , thankyou I love it, I hope it will make the beginning of the world coming to be one people with no race issues 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻😀😀
@35:00, I noticed the circles for the Indus people are the same locations of Portuguese cities in India. I wonder if this had an influence.
Intriguing.
wow !!
Turning the Caste System on its head...
One more benefit of a Biblical model.
What Topological Map is this? I like it better than the other Topological Maps. I love it! Where can I find it and use it?
Very interesting. What do you think about finno-ugric people?
Thank you for your research. It's a difficult puzzle for one person to try to figure out and requires a broad range of knowledge from the genetic, linguistic, and historical perspective. There is no one person who can have all the knowledge necessary to complete the puzzle pieces. I think you will need more help. I began asking the same kinds of questions in the last couple of years and ran across all kinds of problems with the DNA research. So I'm glad you are approaching this with humility and hope you receive help from others in your research.
I think the problem is with the mainstream assumptions of the DNA research itself. The mainstream assumption is always 'out of Africa' and the assumption is always 'evolution' (getting more advanced) never 'devolution' or simply 'adaptation'. The assumption is an origin from a single point on the earth (Africa), not multiple locations. In my research I came across some extra biblical texts which described the sons of Noah specifically being given portions of the world according to the 4 cardinal directions (North, East, South, West). Interestingly, we have 4 seas named after colors. Red Sea, White Sea, Yellow Sea, and Black Sea. I think it might be worthwhile reconsidering the possibility of four 'origin' regions of the DNA haplogroups, not just where Noah landed. I question the mainstream view of the way they connect the DNA haplogroup branches even. At some point in the past, people from the North, came to the Punjab region of India. This seems to me to be the reason for the linguistic similarities, not some imaginary PIE language made up by linguists.
The other problem is the falsification of history. We actually do not have any surviving historical texts because all of the libraries were burned, looted and destroyed. Some of the archeological evidence is fraudulent and falsified. Also, the historical calendars are off by at least 500 years, but more likely by about 1000 years. So if we are considering a more brief history, the missing time becomes much more significant. Anatoly Fomenko and others tried to reconcile the calendar problem by comparing dates with written historical accounts of astronomical events, only to eventually come to the conclusion that the historical accounts are fraudulent too. Historical figures and names are even completely fabricated. I even suspect Amerigo Vespucci and Christopher Columbus were completely fabricated historical characters used to attempt to legitimize land claims in the Americas. because linguistically, it seems to me that the naming of the Americas precedes both Amerigo and Columbus. Columbia was a female figure representing freedom. There were a whole people called the Mbya (the suffix of Columbia) relates to the Mbya Guarana peoples in South America. And the Kolam is a design pattern in India which also means 'pool'. The Columbia river once gave passage to an inland sea (like a pool) in the Americas which is on old maps of America. There is a whole South East Indian language called 'Kanada' and of course North America we call Canada. Linguistically, 'mer' always has to do with the oceans, and 'rica' still means 'rich' in Spanish. The whole western part of Europe was called Armorica or Aremorica, it is the name given in ancient times to the part of Gaul between the Seine and the Loire that includes the Brittany Peninsula, extending inland to an indeterminate point and down the Atlantic Coast. There is also the possibility of the name America being related to some indigenous people's name for some mountains in South America.
Once your ear gets more tuned into alphabet problems of linguistics, you can see more linguistic similarities of what might have gotten confused at Babel. the Latin 'C' becomes a 'K', 'J' is sometimes a 'Y' or an 'I', S and C get mixed up, the X is sh or ch in some languages. For example Cairo, is Chi Rho and we also have the Chi Rho Ki tribe or Cherokee. So, it seems to me, that the best we can do is look for linguistic and cultural clues and symbols. Follow rivers and ship routes, and land routes to find areas of cultural exchange, for goods such as iron, silk, spices etc. Like you said, for the most part, there was a lot more cultural exchange and intermingling among the populace than we are led to believe and it was much more worldwide. It was often a two way cultural exchange, not just a one way direction. Ancient civilizations were much more advanced than we are led to believed and most likely had steam powered ships much earlier in history in my opinion. The mainstream maps usually give you a migrational directional arrow starting from central Europe and branching from there. But if their assumptions are backwards, then so are their directional arrows.
If we are invoking the biblical narrative, then it seems to me that the mainstream assumptions and categorization of DNA samples (one coming from another) would be incorrect due to their false assumptions/ preconceptions. Therefore, if you are basing your timeline on mainstream DNA assumptions, that's why it can get confusing. You mentioned using data from 600 males Y chromosome, maybe you can please clarify in the next video if that data was a mainstream source or your own source of research from 600 males?
With regards to linguistics, it seems to me that it's a similar assumption, languages becoming more advanced rather than devolving or people sharing words and meanings because they are all communicating with each other a lot more than we are told. The PIE language is a completely made up language based on assumptions. When I was looking into that, it seemed to me there were actually very few similarities linguistically between the Indian and European languages. What the linguists do is they assume a 'transitional' or 'origin' language that branched off the two languages and then they completely fabricate an assumed origin or transitional language either between languages or originating a language. It seemed to me from my research that there were a lot more similarities between the Algonquin and Scotts Gaelic languages than there were between Europeans and the Indians of South East Asia. One way to look into Etymology is to go to a site called 'indifferentlanguages', there you can look up a word and see what that word is in different languages simultaneously. Another helpful tip is to look at baby names sites which give you the cultural meanings of common baby names. Believe it or not, this helps a lot with linguistics.
Divisions and racism is a fairly modern thing, i think skin color was not an issue in 'ancient' history.
Another thing to consider is that whole land masses have disappeared, but in a shorter span of time than mainstream will admit. Such as 'Doggerland'. If we look at elevation and sea maps, it becomes more clear that there was once more land.
I don't know much about all this DNA genetic research - God has spent the last 40 years teaching me the HUGE difference between Christianity (the Spirit-led Body of Christ) and Christendom (the Bride of Christ, and her own man-made religions, all knowledge-led rather than Spirit-led) - but I am impressed with your dedication and commitment to what God is teaching you. I pray we all can keep doing as we're asked until Jesus returns. May He gave us all the sight and courage to keep going even as Lucifer gathers most of humanity to turn on and rend the Truth Seekers who might or might not yet know the name of Jesus, yet, by conscience they are Truth Seekers nonetheless. Personally, I believe Jesus returns between 2029 and 2033, but, it's not something I'd stake my life on. But, that Jesus is God Divine? And not merely a great supernatural created being? Yes, I would stake my life on that Truth. Everything else pales in comparison.
@@catherinecastle8576 the Bride of Christ is a different aspect of the Church. The Body of Christ shows Christ as the life of the believers and emphasizes God’s move and expression. The Church as the Bride of Christ emphasizes the saints’ (which are all believers in Christ, see 1 Corinithians 1:2) love for the Lord Jesus and the saints being built to be Christ’s counterpart, as Eve was to Adam. Matthew 13 shows better the distinction b/w false Christendom and the true Christian believers as seen in the parable of the tares, the women with leaven (signifying the mixture of worldly peactices with biblical truth as seen in today’s Christendom), and the mustard seed becoming a great tree.
Basata Anshumali Mukhopadyays analysis of the Indus script and symbols suggests the language of the valley is related to south Indian languages.
Very good and understandable for the past 6000 years. But was was before that?
Different humans,who died out because of the flood?
So you also explain the recent past.
IVC discontinued in 1900bc Evacuated Indus Valley , migrated south, mixed with native hunter gatherers and continued as the tamil people.
Dr Jeanson has brilliantly identified the forest people of. Tamil nadu. as the descendants of the Indus Valley inhabitants. It's the IRULA tribe of the Blue Mountains, Nilgiris in Tamil Nadu.
The Irulas are the primary candidate who would qualify as Indus Valley descendants followed by the scheduled Caste/dalits of tamil nadu and neighbouring states
As always thank you and God bless you and your work. This is one of the most important hypotheses going. Along with the Hubble tension , deep time and lazy science is getting hammered by following the evidence to where it leads.
Can someone please tell me the site to go to get my dad n mom's side of her family chromosome test to find out roots of our ancestors and the clan we come from? Any help will be great, thank you.
See videos of ,Jallikattu the bull fighting sport - originated in the Indus Valley 2500bc.and now practised for 2000 years in tamil nadu. See Indus Valley bull fighting Seals held at New Delhi museum.
Congratulations
Indus Valley civilization is at least 8000 year ( I don’t see that mentioned ) old and one of the earliest civilization. Not sure why Dr did not consider the possibility of migration out and consider only migration in.
Actually, the paper that is published on nature that claims that the Indus Valley civilization is at least 8000 years in 2016 is highly dubious because it is based only on the optically stimulated luminescence dating method without taking any archaeological evidence into consideration. When using any dating method, it's very important to take archeological evidence into consideration. So the Indus Valley civilization isn't 8000 years old.
@@AbhiDaBeatTheSecond Yes it is 8000 years old. ASI has done this dating using more than one method.. And they have found it in Rakhigarhi
Great work
The Indus River Valley culture could be related to the ancient Frisians. The Oera Linda book talks about this.
Great video.
Imagine if some aspect of this F group present day language could be a key to discovering the language of the Indus Valley people; provided that it is accurate of course.
There is pooular kowledge that the DNA of IRULA tribe closely resembles the DNA of the Indus Valley. It is beleived that more than 5 million Indus Valley inhabitants migrated South. So there must be other populations that also qualify
There are groups in India directly linked to tribes in Africa. Same complexion, same ornaments, same rituals, similar dialect...🤔
South Asians migrated out of India to Europe after the Battle of 10 Kings 15,000 to 20,000 years ago.
To many zeros in some respects it was 1500 to 2000 bc
@@Spicy_hen2 lol my time is correct.
@@sirchad9443 Mahabharata is a made-up myth and not actual history as Hindus of our country claims.
The only south asians to come into Europe were gypsies. Indo Europeans did not start in India.
@Tuetonic Knight gypsies? You have no concept of time. I would tell you to get lost but you already are.
Power Point couldn't listen at 1.5 speed and ran out of patience - succumbed to boredom.
Dravidian languages (Indus valley civilization)
1. Kannada
2. Tamil
3. Telugu
4. Malayalam
5. Tulu
Dravidian languages
• Kota
• Gondi
• Kui
• Kuvi
• Kurukh (Oraon)
• Malto
• Brahui
• Irula
• Badaga
• Koraga
• Paniya
• Toda
• Tamil
• Malayalam
• Kannada
• Kodava
• Tulu 😂😂
We wuz kangz n sheits b4 de whitey came 😂😂😂
Love it
How come you left out G. That area shows some of the most ancient stone work, and the most ancient blind haired blue eyed white graves.
There's a lot of preliminary before they get to the content.
Have not many skeletons been recovered from the remnants of Mohenjo-Daro? No DNA has been recovered from those skeletal remains?
And India
So you went through all of this to say absolutely nothing it’s clear just from looking at them they come from Africa because it’s right next to Israel which is also Africa
To make a long story short I know we all came from Adam and Eve
I wonder if the reason for haplogroups I and J in Europe and Asia is not rather, they are Semites and come from Semitic Lud (ancestor of Lydians and a few more). On my view, Indo-Europeans, a) are _not_ synonymous with Japhetites, and b) come from more original groups than IJ + H.
The cultures associated with proto-IE are actually from Abraham's time.
Have you tried checking with palaeo-DNA?
Are there any ancient corpses in Harappa or Mohenjo Daro and are they H or F?
He should have started his explanation of the Indus Valley civilization with the possibility of the lineage of Noah ,Shem, Ham, Elam , Abraham making strong dent into Nortthwestern India and how the Brahmanic Bharata, Rig Vedic culture started there way before the Mongol, Muslim or even influence from the British empire to the extremely ancient Indus Valley civilization...It's a crappy introduction...
I'm surprise the lack of information you have
And the oldest languages on the planet is the South Indian language called TAMIL .....it is well over 5,000 yrs old . It is totally different to other languages
IF there was AMT then you would have some trace of Tamil language in the foreign people who came to India. BUT THAT IS NOT THE CASE!!
The AMT is seriously flawed ! It does not hold true!
Infact there is evidence in Europe, pre-Christianity and before Roman expansion in Europe of a MAINSTREAM VEDIC CULTURE in Europe !
Eg
DRUIDS were like Brahmins...it took 20 years to train as a DRUID. In Sanskrit, DRU means IMMENSE and VID means KNOWLEDGE. So they were spiritual Europeans, who had fire practices and had IMMENSE KNOWLEDGE
it would be good if you contact the astrologers in Banaras who have the history of so many generations and give us your understanding of this aspect of Indian genetic history.
The H haplogroup you see in the Balkans comes from Roma Gypsy people. Who went to Europe from India. H is very much a Indian Sub Continent Haplogroup.
The Forest people are not from the IVC and are talked about in the Ramayana which according to astronomical records dates back to 12,000 BCE.
Astronomical?
@@seal9390 relating to astronomy
Something doesn't make sense. When he speaks of "Abramic" in origin, doesn't he know that Abram is Brahma? And Sarah is Sarasvati? In other words, Abram came from India. Ur if the Chaldees is in Afghanistan. So then the "birth of mankind" must have occurred in India, not the Middle East.
Have you guys looked at the findings of @TheGodCulture tracing Eden to the Phillipines?
He traces everything to the Philippines.
The location of Eden is described in Genesis 2:10-14:
“And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became four heads. The name of the first is Pishon; that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold; and the gold of that land is good; there is bdellium and the onyx stone. And the name of the second river is Gihon; the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Cush. And the name of the third river is Tigris; that is it which goeth toward the east of Asshur. And the fourth river is the Euphrates”
The Ancient civilisation of Mesopotamia(present day Iraq) grew along the two great rivers Tigris and Euphrates .
Ancient Mesopotamia-present day Iraq was the Cradle of civilisation.
Cush is in Africa.
From the above , you don’t have to be a rocket scientist to easily infer Eden is located in the Middle-East.
Bible is so simple and clear.
The Middle-East has been the cradle of civilisation and plays a pivotal role in Biblical events and history . It was there Adam and Eve lived, Noah’s boat landed Turkey:Middle-East.
TheGodCulture puts Noah’s Ark landing in Himalayan mountain ranges- well if that were the case , none of us would be here today , as the 8 people in the boat/Ark along with all the animals would have suffered and died moments after stepping out of the boat.
Himalayan mountain ranges- esp the far upper reaches are not conducive to life. Many climbers even with all their equipment have died while trying to reach the summits .
I’m an American Anglophone of British and German descent, yet apparently have ancestry from this this part of the world. I’m not inferring or suggesting anything, merely commenting.
Gypsy blood, sorry
@@SimpleMinded221 I do bleed green.
Y-DNA haplogroup D would have played a part as founding component of the Indus Valley. HIJ could fit the Dr.'s model
Why not get Indus valley DNA instead of extrapolation?
The only ones are
Sem and cam
Shocking it's a book and not a published paper....you would think you'd want to get your research out there for the whole world to see.
Get the book, review it, and share you thoughts with the world John!
@@johnferguson8794 They say those who lie alot often think others do, as well.
@@UncleUncleRj kinda explains the misrepresented data I guess. However, I can't help but see lies as a form of violence personally.
@@johnferguson8794 Their Papers aren't accurate due to not actually containing any scientific evidence
The Taj Mahal was reconstructed by a mogul it was not built by a mogul.
The Zebu cattle bos indicus engaged in bull fighting in the Indus valley is also seen participating in the bull fighting sport in tamil nadu. But. Is not native to the State.
The great Bath at Mohan ja daro is replicated in most rural temple ponds/tanks. Google for photos
The Irula tribals, snake and mice catchers of tamil nadu are reputed to be descendants of the Indus Valley . Note that the famous herpetologist Romulus Whitaker works with the Irulas.
The Irulas were recently engaged in Florida US to clear Burmese Pythons.
Irulas are a very disadvantaged people in tamil nadu. Mostly live by getting.rid of rats in agricultural fields and catching snakes for venom milking
Seems odd that AIG has many videos and still no Scientific Papers submitted for Peer Review. Why is this?
Peer-reviewed = corrupt process
@@kevinjohnson3521 Kevin's ignorant personal opinions = ZERO supporting evidence
They have a lot of peer reviewed research. Dr. Jeansen shares his peer reviewed research that he performed himself, and that he took data from.
Im a Christian, but this guy in the video doesn't quite understand human genetics or migration. He has to fit in human ydna migrations into 6 thousand years, which he cant, so he makes things up.
@@SimpleMinded221 You'd be hard pressed to find anything AIG hasn't made up. They've rewritten every field of science from Astrophysics to Zoology with personal opinions and their Muppets eat it up
Truth is simple and sweet because jesus is the truth , lies are complicated because it is from Satan
One reason for a lack of British impact on Indian genetics is that the British never colonised to breed themselves into the history, but to build themselves into the history of the nation, introducing, democratic government, education, health care and industrial capacity. India is one of many examples of successful democracies established by the British, not least of which is the USA.
British 💦they looted , genocided india
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I wonder if you ever thought of the gypsies. The originated from India and then we're in enslaved population that went to Romania and other parts of Europe. They could have ancient branches that have migrated throughout the entire. Asian and European continents.
Tamil people. Ancient people of indus vally
What's the story when you look deeper before 4500 years and take out the christian context
I like your work but I think you're wrong about R1a being Mongol. R1a is uncommon in Mongolian people and most modern day R1a rich people are Indo-European and Caucasoid looking.
But are not Mongols mostly Haplogroup C? How could they bring R1a to India then?
And R1a is connected to Corded Ware burials which was a Chalcolithic culture which simply cannot be medieval in Europe - as we have written records for those areas of Europe for the Middle Ages and those people living here were using iron and steel already in the Middle Ages and not copper and early Bronze Age tools - also in Middle Ages those were all Christians and were buried without grave goods in a prone position in cementaries but those of Corded Ware culture are buried in mounds with curled legs lying on their sides and have pots buried with them?
Skip to 5:00
Save you a rather long boring introduction.
Graphic need magnification and though I respect his work, he speaks slowly at times but at other times it sounds like one of those disclaimers at the end of car commercials. Very difficult to follow and concentrate on what he said relevant to the topic. Also the constant jumping around is confusing. And yes, I know you wrote a book, but I haven’t read it. Probably won’t read it. I don’t have a need to know R1a embedded apologetics, etc. I can’t watch the entire episode because it puts me to sleep. Sorry, just not that intriguing to me.
I had the same problem.
Mughal
And mongol are not the same.
Love your research Nate but men really shouldn’t wear pink ties.
What abt Africa??
In sophomore year of high school, I had a class that covered bc history. It was boring. Probably the teacher.
So this is to "restore people's national identities" (35: 57 to 36:13 mark in the video) and to "restore their dignity"? (38: 55 mark in the video). That's funny. Because according to Jesus we are to preach "REPENTANCE for the forgiveness of sins to all the nations beginning in Jerusalem." Luke 24: 47. And as to restoring ethnic pride in their ancient pagan origins, Galatians 3:16 says: "The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,” meaning ONE person, who is Christ."
Verse 29 clinches it saying:
"If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise."
So much for the importance of pride in physical descent or national origin.
I'd like to see your study on the so called African Americans 🤨
35:00 - 39:30
البروفسور ناثانيال ت.جينسون كلامه صحيح تاريخياوعلميا وجغرافيا بالمرصاد على يهود الكوهين الخزر المغول من افضل العلماء الحمض النووي والحضارات البشرية في العالم حفظه الله من كل شر يارب العالمين اللهم آمين
Gypsies claiming to be Judaic have mostly H (Elamite) hg and then J2 (Judaic) hg.
My god
If you don't know what is indoeuropean
I didn’t hear about the “Aryans.”
The Land of Ophir🤗 Where King Solomon got its Gold🤫 Columbus, Magellan, and Bush knew 🤗
We know the Hindu civilization is from the south
R1
Those are huns
Indoeuropeans are from anatolia and steps
J is Jew Arab
I is viking
Aryans
So the conclusion is IVC were South Indians civilization!
Indian people are deeply melanated all the areas that you're talking about are not melanated I think baby the bongos were a Genghis Khan group but I'm not sure but that's the only group that would have been as heavily and Africa doesn't play a part in this at all so at what point I mean if you're only talking 34,000 years ago that's really recent Indian people are ancient and black people even more agent and black people own melanin so your graphic and your logic is very odd to me.
As an Indian am glad i found this video...