Still crazy to me that 16 was never given a Pro patch. 16 was supposed to be this major "from the ground up designed for PS5" exclusive, and yet it's just kind of been abandoned.
That's what square does. They abandon most of their games. I've been waiting for xv to get a ps5 update and nothing. Only reasons rebirth got an update is because it's a 3 current part trilogy, and all the complaints.
I wonder if it's just about where the team is at. They've moved on the dlc is wrapped up and the pc port is done and the team has probably been dissolved and moved onto other projects. There's probably no one to work on pro patch. And you probably don't want to give the work to just anyone to work on.
The FF16 team was disbanded and split up and the devs were sent to work on some upcoming square games. They'd either have to pull some of the developers away from whatever they are working on now or they'd have to form a new team but square obviously isn't willing to do that.
I've finished the game on a PS5 + 1080p screen and I've never seen such poor performance and imagine quality in the 60fps mode. This should be illegal!!
I *love* that you covered Stranger of Paradise-thank you, Oliver! I had always wondered what the results of that image quality update were following DF’s original coverage. Awesome idea to cover every FF game, really informative.
It already gets a noticable bump to image clarity and higher rendering resolution as it’s using dynamic res currently. It also gets a nice bump to performance as well, and while there are still dips, it’s well within the VRR window now when they occur. So we are getting a nice upgrade here even without a bespoke patch. The game is just really heavy in general. Any further gains needed will be seen with the PS6 where it should finally hit a locked 60. If you haven’t fired it up yet and have a Pro, you will notice a difference immediately though.
Please cover Empire of the Ants on PS5 Pro! It's one of the most impressive games graphically so far on PS5 Pro and the unique tiny scale really emphasizes the granular details! It should definitely sit somewhere in Digital Foundry's best graphics of the year list!
Crazy how a game that visually looks worse than nioh 2 on the ps4 using the same engine needed a mid gen refresh just to perform decently. Koei tecmo's games are solid but their technical standards are absolutely woeful
@@jeveritt8398I think it’s a team ninja thing. All of their recent releases in the past decade have had subpar console performance. Nioh 2, wo long, Stranger, RotR all have had performance issues on their base platforms.
Rebirth on the base ps5 doesn't use TAA Upsampling or FSR2, which is why it's so blurry. If they implemented that, the difference wouldn't have been nearly as significant
Its sad seeing 16 wasn't well optimized neither on pc and didn't even got a pro patch. It's my favorite ff. The eikon battles were meant to be played in 4k60fps
Eikon battles are one of my main gripes of 16, all the boss fights play the same every time, so much so they are the bits I look forward to the least, I want to approach boss fights differently not just have them as spectacles to be seen once and then dumped. Killed a lot of the replayability factor, I feel they should have been rarer and more evenly paced with a lot more player agency. By the end of titan lost I was done with them, especially with the sheer amount of repeated animations. Every single fight has the enemy rub ifrits face up against a wall for a quarter mile... Snooze. For me, FF boss fights are all about strategy, this was mindless boss fighting, a spectacle - yes, but actually challenging or good - no. Rebirth hard mode gave me all the strategy set up joy and spectacle from fights I could possibly need, all while being in control of a full party and not having to do quicktime events, not only that, but a unique boss fight theme for every single boss with multiple phases. Bosses done bang right!
It already does look and run significantly better in performance mode due to the extra power and dynamic resolution. That was one of the first non-Pro-patched games I tested. A patch would be even better obviously.
The pop-in Rebirth is very distracting, instead of focusing only on picture quality, they should have improved other aspect of the game like the draw distance imo.
10:16 "Stranger of Paradise Final Fantasy Origin which is technically a Final Fantasy game too" wdym technically? it's a final fantasy game, pertaining to final fantasy, with final fantasy in the title
One tip for non-pro owners: You can download the PS4 version of Stranger of Paradise (at no additional cost if you own the game digitally IIRC) and play that on your PS5 to experience drastically improved frame rates at the expense of just a bit of graphics quality. It really helps later in the game when the enemy count on screen starts to get really high
for me regarding Rebirth, this is Iess an enhancement and more making the image actuaIIy acceptabIe won’t fix my issues with pop-in and awfuI shadow coverage but it’s _something_
I flew this flag for a while to a lot of shit, I thought the base game was unplayable at 60fps, it looked near underwater it was so damn blurry. I could not stand it, I ended up sticking with 30fps and getting used to it, it's a clean 30 with good framepacing. The 60fps mode on pro looks great, pop in is still there but hell I can deal with that easily, actual image quality problems gave me migraines. The only game I played this year on console that looked even worse was Wu Kong, the artifacting in that game may be the most egregious example I've ever seen. I didn't enjoy a single graphics setting in that game on ps5, the pro however has made a fairly acceptable 40fps mode, but still... No clean 60. Unreal engine is a bastard when making big detailed environments, not only that but Rebirth is using UE4 and has even larger environments than Wu Kong. I'm honestly sick to death of UE already. Bored of seeing it's generic traits across numerous titles. Decima has stolen my heart.
always for me, the fact that some of those ff titles have a pc version that runs with fsr2-which, by the way, is much better than fsr1/taau-is great. and since fsr2 can also run on the base ps5, it makes me wonder: will the base ps5 version always remain inferior and never receive a patch, just to the "pro version" shine a little?
i cant be the only person who thinks pop in ruins graphics no matter the quality of the assets or resolution... especially when the lower quality LODs still look really good nowdays
shoutout to Stranger of Paradise. Literally Nioh2 with a FF coat of paint. Solid even amazing combat. Campy story that you kinda cringe at to begin with but honestly, by the end, its not altogether that bad. Very very underrated. DLC is amazing too.
I'm at the point where I have a pro but not a vrr display and it makes me wonder if it may be worth it to hold off getting ff16 until I can upgrade my tv or if it's really not that bad on a 60 hz tv.
FF16 looks so bad in performance mode I stopped playing it. It actually looks worse than 720P because it's upscaled with FSR1 which is incredibly blurry 😢
Pretty weird that Final Fantasy 16 didn’t get a patch, but it does run great on PC hardware depending although at times with the boss battles the frame rate without frame generation can definitely still suffer but not for long during those battles. I do wish they were able to uncap the cut scenes without modding the game but for the amazing story and the complete package that it is, compared to how XV was for so long. I’m really disappointed it didn’t do better sales wise and now we are seeing SE do a complete about face for that reason. For one I’m very glad that they have gotten their heads out of their bums and have decided to do multi platform strategy once again . Overall I do think it was designed to just be played at 30 fps across the board on its original hardware but one has to wonder if a PS5 pro patch would help.
Square Enix engineers SUCK at optimizing for PlayStation in my opinion. The gulf between these visuals and something like Horizon Forbidden West is so vast its insane.
It's the same upscaling you get in various art programs if you take the image and resize it larger. Technically doesn't have a single algorithm so it can vary between bicubic or Lanczos or such. But it's a basic upscale without awareness of the geometry or previous frames or anything.
Generally, with computer science terminology, "naive" tends to mean something is straightforward and simple. I don't have a degree in computer science, and am not a developer/coder, so my explanation may be incomplete or even outright incorrect, but I believe it's something like... a naive upscale would just copy the pixels of the nearest neighbor, in say, a 1080p image, so 1 pixel of yellow becomes a square of 4 yellow pixels, a single blue pixel becomes a square of 4 blue pixels, etc.. Then you've technically got 4x the resolution of the source image, so you've "filled" a 4k image with a 1080p image, and it scales "cleanly" in that nothing should be deformed. Whereas a more robust approach using TAA (or similar techniques like DLSS or PSSR) are much more complex and can produce much better results, if implemented correctly.
30 FPS but its an action game, so it's basically gonna be a slideshow. The game has low difficulty but none of the modes are good honestly, the game is so poorly optimized.
They should release PS5 Pro patches for FFX/FF12/FF13/FF14/FF15/FFVII: Remake/FF16, etc. The first 4 games could easily do 4k120. FF15 and FFVII Remake should have a 4k60 quality Pro mode. FF15 was the first major FF to introduce advanced upscaling, HDR, etc features on PC.
For Rebirth, even the bare minimum when it comes to temporal upscalers would've done a 1000 times better job than whatever Vaseline they used in the base console. Seems like a marketing move more than anything, even the awful FSR1 that they used in XVI would've done a better job. Doesn't make sense why wouldn't they implement things like FSR2 when it is open-source and so easy to implement.
No FFXVI Patch for the P5 Pro was one of the reasons why I gave a fuck about it. Square Enix games were actually even the reason numero uno why I even bought a PS5 in the first place. Unfortunately fF16 needs a beefy gpu with at least 16gb vram, to run without stutters. My 3080 struggles a lot the the current vram issues are the reason why I wont buy the joke of card called the 5080. 16gb will make me suffer in 2 years just like the 3080
I hate TAA. Give me the option to disable it. I will take my chances with dithering, hair and foliage artifacts and jaggies. I will take a sharper image over a soft blurry TAA mess, any day. Resident Evil 2/3 Remakes look so much better and sharper with AA disabled. When 1200p internal rendering resolutions start looking like 720p on my 1440p monitor, I'd rather take my chances if shimmer, thanks.
One hour in FF16 my first impressions are flickery low res self-shadows, LOTS of low res textures EVERYWHERE, poor skin shading (no subsurface scattering), some very low res sky boxes, lots of very ‘plain’ environments (e.g. rooms with repeating textures and very little detail, not many objects placed such as the throne room). Also had two crashes just in the first hour… running on 4090 at 4K.
How can the Rebirth developers themselves be okay with that foliage pop-in right in front of you while traversing? It’s insane and I still can’t believe it hasn’t been addressed. Same for Dragons Dogma. NPC’s pop up right in front of you. You won’t see that on any Horizon game. Not to this extent anyway. If there’s something that’s immersion breaking it’s up front pop in, screen tearing and major frame drops. I guess my OCD has a lot to do with it bothering me. If I were a dev my games would probably take 6 years of dev time to release. 😅
@@stargateheaven23 They did not updated it, they game was released on Xbox One and One X, the One X versions targeted 60fps day one. It's not an update, that's just how the port was done at the time. The ps5 and Series X didn't existed yet.
So Rebirth's Performance mode on PS5 doesn't use TSR to render at 4k? It just uses TSR to render at ~1300p, then just uses dumb upscaling to 4k...? Well that completely explains the very poor, blurry results on PS5 and does not provide a case for PSSR.
Placing my bets before I get to it -- Stranger of Paradise is still a hot mess. EDIT: Got to it, and... I guess frame rates are up, but I'm more concerned about how the game visually looks like it's smothered in vaseline.
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Still crazy to me that 16 was never given a Pro patch. 16 was supposed to be this major "from the ground up designed for PS5" exclusive, and yet it's just kind of been abandoned.
That's what square does. They abandon most of their games. I've been waiting for xv to get a ps5 update and nothing. Only reasons rebirth got an update is because it's a 3 current part trilogy, and all the complaints.
It’s truly a shame, as I enjoyed 16 way more than Rebirth. I guess it didn’t meet SE’s sales expectations, as is the case with 99% of their games.
same. its an absolute shame
I wonder if it's just about where the team is at. They've moved on the dlc is wrapped up and the pc port is done and the team has probably been dissolved and moved onto other projects.
There's probably no one to work on pro patch. And you probably don't want to give the work to just anyone to work on.
It hasn't even been 2 months
16 needs a Pro patch
Weird that FF16 didn't get a patch
It still runs bad on a high end pc. Probably a waste of time to patch it
The FF16 team was disbanded and split up and the devs were sent to work on some upcoming square games.
They'd either have to pull some of the developers away from whatever they are working on now or they'd have to form a new team but square obviously isn't willing to do that.
16 was bad anyway
@Packin-Heat. That seems awfully contrived and convenient. Sounds like a half-assed effort to me lol.
I've finished the game on a PS5 + 1080p screen and I've never seen such poor performance and imagine quality in the 60fps mode. This should be illegal!!
I *love* that you covered Stranger of Paradise-thank you, Oliver! I had always wondered what the results of that image quality update were following DF’s original coverage.
Awesome idea to cover every FF game, really informative.
Its obvious that DF played FF7 on PS1 and fell in love with the series.
Man ff16 is literally screaming for a pro patch and a lot of folks myself included, really want one. Your move SE
FF16 should get a Pro patch more than any game. A higher resolution with an upgrade from FSR1 to PSSR would be significant.
It already gets a noticable bump to image clarity and higher rendering resolution as it’s using dynamic res currently. It also gets a nice bump to performance as well, and while there are still dips, it’s well within the VRR window now when they occur. So we are getting a nice upgrade here even without a bespoke patch. The game is just really heavy in general. Any further gains needed will be seen with the PS6 where it should finally hit a locked 60. If you haven’t fired it up yet and have a Pro, you will notice a difference immediately though.
@mandrews6282 the resolution is better but its still blurry and could use a PSSR jump
Please cover Empire of the Ants on PS5 Pro! It's one of the most impressive games graphically so far on PS5 Pro and the unique tiny scale really emphasizes the granular details! It should definitely sit somewhere in Digital Foundry's best graphics of the year list!
Wish yall wouldve tested the combat sections on ff16
Those scenes are infamous for dropping the resolution to like 720p on ps5
Was looking for this most importantly, he didn't even mention it.
Rebirth is such a underrated game. I just picked it up and it’s soooo much better than remake
Stranger of Paradise runs perfectly now. I'll actually play through it now on PS5 Pro.
Some of the bloom intensity in some levels, even turned off, is still quite bad. Performance was fine though.
Crazy how a game that visually looks worse than nioh 2 on the ps4 using the same engine needed a mid gen refresh just to perform decently. Koei tecmo's games are solid but their technical standards are absolutely woeful
@@jeveritt8398I think it’s a team ninja thing. All of their recent releases in the past decade have had subpar console performance. Nioh 2, wo long, Stranger, RotR all have had performance issues on their base platforms.
FFXIV is my main game, and I've been really impressed with how the pro plays it.
@@brucewayne404it was 60 on the ps5 😂
@@brucewayne404 4k 60
Only dips a little in Limsa Lominsa Aetherite Plaza. Down to 50+ occasionally there.
Performance mode looks MUCH better even without a formal Pro patch. I really want a Pro patch to make it even better, though.
@@omensoffate It can't do 4k60 at all on base PS5
PS5 Pro is just transformative for Rebirth. Shows potential of PSSR.
Rebirth on the base ps5 doesn't use TAA Upsampling or FSR2, which is why it's so blurry. If they implemented that, the difference wouldn't have been nearly as significant
Thanks for showing Stranger Of Paradise. That game deserves more love.
FF16 really got left in the dust
Now, if only i could play the XIII Trilogy on PS5 😭
WORDDDDD
Is the 13 trilogy really worth it? I’ve never played a FF game before and I have the series X. I own FFX and XV but haven’t gotten around to it
Playing XIII modded on PC and this game is such a gem!
@@UNKNWN96 yeah I’ve heard the best experience for any of the older FF games is playing it modded on pc, especially the og ffvii
Its sad seeing 16 wasn't well optimized neither on pc and didn't even got a pro patch. It's my favorite ff. The eikon battles were meant to be played in 4k60fps
Eikon battles are one of my main gripes of 16, all the boss fights play the same every time, so much so they are the bits I look forward to the least, I want to approach boss fights differently not just have them as spectacles to be seen once and then dumped. Killed a lot of the replayability factor, I feel they should have been rarer and more evenly paced with a lot more player agency. By the end of titan lost I was done with them, especially with the sheer amount of repeated animations. Every single fight has the enemy rub ifrits face up against a wall for a quarter mile... Snooze.
For me, FF boss fights are all about strategy, this was mindless boss fighting, a spectacle - yes, but actually challenging or good - no.
Rebirth hard mode gave me all the strategy set up joy and spectacle from fights I could possibly need, all while being in control of a full party and not having to do quicktime events, not only that, but a unique boss fight theme for every single boss with multiple phases. Bosses done bang right!
@@upon-fe2720Rebirth bosses are one of the worst when it comes to FF as a whole. Reborn Sephiroth probably was the worst boss fight I've ever played
You need frame gen for that mess
My God, people still claiming FF 7 Rebirth looks good with that atrocious draw distance and pop-in. Character models are on point though.
cant wait for Rebirth on PC :D luckily its just 4 weeks left of wait
Hope they give 16 a pro patch. Would love to see the game optimized further and to take advantage of the new hardware. Would convince me to buy a pro.
It already does look and run significantly better in performance mode due to the extra power and dynamic resolution. That was one of the first non-Pro-patched games I tested. A patch would be even better obviously.
The pop-in Rebirth is very distracting, instead of focusing only on picture quality, they should have improved other aspect of the game like the draw distance imo.
10:16 "Stranger of Paradise Final Fantasy Origin which is technically a Final Fantasy game too"
wdym technically? it's a final fantasy game, pertaining to final fantasy, with final fantasy in the title
Well he just means how its a spinoff developed by outside studio Team Ninja, duh
because it's basically Nioh 3.
Tell me you haven't played Nioh and Stranger of Paradise without telling me @@KevenLC
One tip for non-pro owners: You can download the PS4 version of Stranger of Paradise (at no additional cost if you own the game digitally IIRC) and play that on your PS5 to experience drastically improved frame rates at the expense of just a bit of graphics quality. It really helps later in the game when the enemy count on screen starts to get really high
Cringe
playing the PS5 version in 1080p also helps with frame rate.
Just picked up Stranger Of Paradise for super cheap, good to see it’s running better.
the game is pretty good overall, if you like Nioh type games.
FF 16 was a system seller for the PS5, why aren't the bralndead SE not updating it?
Playstation is keeping this channel alive single handly😂
*Digital Foundry is keeping Playstation alive single handly
@astrea555 😅 that makes no sense. They would have almost thing to talk about if it wasn't for Playstation.
u guys shld do wukong next, the new balanced mode at 40 fps is amazing and looks stunning
This is so good, can’t wait for what’s next.
I would love to see A Plague Tale Requiem tested on the pro
Sounds like it’s finally time to play 16 (in 30fps)
What about FF1-6 Pixel Remaster? How many FPS?
a locked 60 all around xD
All of them
Crazy that in ps5 pro you cant access to the power you're paying for, with some titles still in 30. That's why i opted for a pc upgrade instead
for me regarding Rebirth, this is Iess an enhancement and more making the image actuaIIy acceptabIe
won’t fix my issues with pop-in and awfuI shadow coverage but it’s _something_
I flew this flag for a while to a lot of shit, I thought the base game was unplayable at 60fps, it looked near underwater it was so damn blurry. I could not stand it, I ended up sticking with 30fps and getting used to it, it's a clean 30 with good framepacing. The 60fps mode on pro looks great, pop in is still there but hell I can deal with that easily, actual image quality problems gave me migraines. The only game I played this year on console that looked even worse was Wu Kong, the artifacting in that game may be the most egregious example I've ever seen. I didn't enjoy a single graphics setting in that game on ps5, the pro however has made a fairly acceptable 40fps mode, but still... No clean 60.
Unreal engine is a bastard when making big detailed environments, not only that but Rebirth is using UE4 and has even larger environments than Wu Kong. I'm honestly sick to death of UE already. Bored of seeing it's generic traits across numerous titles. Decima has stolen my heart.
What about replacing that awful upscaler they use in FF 7 rebirth with FSR or TSR on the og PS5 ? 🙄
always for me, the fact that some of those ff titles have a pc version that runs with fsr2-which, by the way, is much better than fsr1/taau-is great. and since fsr2 can also run on the base ps5, it makes me wonder: will the base ps5 version always remain inferior and never receive a patch, just to the "pro version" shine a little?
I actually can’t believe how much sharper and cleaner Rebirth is
i cant be the only person who thinks pop in ruins graphics no matter the quality of the assets or resolution... especially when the lower quality LODs still look really good nowdays
shoutout to Stranger of Paradise. Literally Nioh2 with a FF coat of paint. Solid even amazing combat. Campy story that you kinda cringe at to begin with but honestly, by the end, its not altogether that bad. Very very underrated. DLC is amazing too.
Rebirth dropped A LOT of frames on PS5 PRO in Junon when getting solders rounded up
3:06 to be fair, I see that moireing pattern IRL with fences and stuff at angles like that. At a certain point it's just realistic
I'm at the point where I have a pro but not a vrr display and it makes me wonder if it may be worth it to hold off getting ff16 until I can upgrade my tv or if it's really not that bad on a 60 hz tv.
VRR is pretty much mandatory nowadays
FF16 looks so bad in performance mode I stopped playing it. It actually looks worse than 720P because it's upscaled with FSR1 which is incredibly blurry 😢
Pretty weird that Final Fantasy 16 didn’t get a patch, but it does run great on PC hardware depending although at times with the boss battles the frame rate without frame generation can definitely still suffer but not for long during those battles.
I do wish they were able to uncap the cut scenes without modding the game but for the amazing story and the complete package that it is, compared to how XV was for so long.
I’m really disappointed it didn’t do better sales wise and now we are seeing SE do a complete about face for that reason.
For one I’m very glad that they have gotten their heads out of their bums and have decided to do multi platform strategy once again .
Overall I do think it was designed to just be played at 30 fps across the board on its original hardware but one has to wonder if a PS5 pro patch would help.
It ran like complete dog 💩 on the ps5. Performance was just terrible
Yea I was surprised that ff16 ran so well on PC. Nearly locked 60 for me during normal gameplay
We love Final Fantasy
Square Enix engineers SUCK at optimizing for PlayStation in my opinion. The gulf between these visuals and something like Horizon Forbidden West is so vast its insane.
Exactly, the gap between Squares ambition and execution is enormous
This begs the question as to why they don't offer a 40 FPS mode for all games on the PRO where 60 can't be absolutely locked.
Wow, seriously this made my day. Thank you!
"Suprisingly strong showing" -Oliver
I'm still waiting for a Soul Reaver Remaster video, like DF did with Tomb Raider at the beginning of this year
Neat, I was hoping 16 would get covered thanks!
I can't believe ff16 still isnt a locked 60fps
I still cant believe how bad Rebirth looks on a base PS5.
What is "naive upscale" exactly?
It's the same upscaling you get in various art programs if you take the image and resize it larger. Technically doesn't have a single algorithm so it can vary between bicubic or Lanczos or such. But it's a basic upscale without awareness of the geometry or previous frames or anything.
Generally, with computer science terminology, "naive" tends to mean something is straightforward and simple. I don't have a degree in computer science, and am not a developer/coder, so my explanation may be incomplete or even outright incorrect, but I believe it's something like... a naive upscale would just copy the pixels of the nearest neighbor, in say, a 1080p image, so 1 pixel of yellow becomes a square of 4 yellow pixels, a single blue pixel becomes a square of 4 blue pixels, etc.. Then you've technically got 4x the resolution of the source image, so you've "filled" a 4k image with a 1080p image, and it scales "cleanly" in that nothing should be deformed.
Whereas a more robust approach using TAA (or similar techniques like DLSS or PSSR) are much more complex and can produce much better results, if implemented correctly.
Oliver likely meant spatial upscale, something like bilinear, bicubic, lanczos or fsr1
SquareEnix should've licensed Decima for these FF7 Remakes
😂😂😂
This feels like an advert for Final Fantasy and PS5pro.
its like they made the ps5 downgrade to show off the ps5 pro.Not fooled.
Going back to strangers, also glad someone mentioned ff14 getting a significant boost in frame rate. It is night and day in limsa.
No way I would've played those games in Performance Mode with all that damn BLUR.
How about Final Fantasy 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,12?
Rebirth just has insane annoying pop in that is even more obvious on the pro. Its immersion breaking
I got the FF16 Pro patch when I bought it on PC
FF16 development team has been disbanded, so it will not support pro enhanced
I actually just got FF16 on the base ps5 due to sales. Is the 30fps mode the best mode to play it on if im on a base ps5?
30 FPS but its an action game, so it's basically gonna be a slideshow. The game has low difficulty but none of the modes are good honestly, the game is so poorly optimized.
Finally Rebirth is clear enough to appreciate all the other glaring PS3-like visual flaws
Welcome to mid-range 2018 PC gaming.
Who cares?
They should release PS5 Pro patches for FFX/FF12/FF13/FF14/FF15/FFVII: Remake/FF16, etc. The first 4 games could easily do 4k120. FF15 and FFVII Remake should have a 4k60 quality Pro mode. FF15 was the first major FF to introduce advanced upscaling, HDR, etc features on PC.
Agreed. FF16 needs a Pro Patch
For Rebirth, even the bare minimum when it comes to temporal upscalers would've done a 1000 times better job than whatever Vaseline they used in the base console. Seems like a marketing move more than anything, even the awful FSR1 that they used in XVI would've done a better job. Doesn't make sense why wouldn't they implement things like FSR2 when it is open-source and so easy to implement.
No FFXVI Patch for the P5 Pro was one of the reasons why I gave a fuck about it. Square Enix games were actually even the reason numero uno why I even bought a PS5 in the first place. Unfortunately fF16 needs a beefy gpu with at least 16gb vram, to run without stutters. My 3080 struggles a lot the the current vram issues are the reason why I wont buy the joke of card called the 5080. 16gb will make me suffer in 2 years just like the 3080
This video was released 29 minutes ago and there are people commenting it 6 days ago? HUH?!
Patreon supporters.
They own a time machine.
I hate TAA. Give me the option to disable it. I will take my chances with dithering, hair and foliage artifacts and jaggies. I will take a sharper image over a soft blurry TAA mess, any day. Resident Evil 2/3 Remakes look so much better and sharper with AA disabled.
When 1200p internal rendering resolutions start looking like 720p on my 1440p monitor, I'd rather take my chances if shimmer, thanks.
Can’t wait for the massive improvements to rebirth’s graphics coming to the pc version. Makes the pro patch look like a joke.
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Now this is the content I’m looking for
Playing ff16 on pc. FSR3.1's big problem is the motion blur, especially in grass. And considering how poor PSSR is at handling temporal detail
One hour in FF16 my first impressions are flickery low res self-shadows, LOTS of low res textures EVERYWHERE, poor skin shading (no subsurface scattering), some very low res sky boxes, lots of very ‘plain’ environments (e.g. rooms with repeating textures and very little detail, not many objects placed such as the throne room). Also had two crashes just in the first hour… running on 4090 at 4K.
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Wait so Rebirth runs slightly above 1080p on PS5 performance mode and still looks sub 720p? How do they accomplish that, that's impressive.
FF16 looks identical to me.
How can the Rebirth developers themselves be okay with that foliage pop-in right in front of you while traversing? It’s insane and I still can’t believe it hasn’t been addressed. Same for Dragons Dogma. NPC’s pop up right in front of you. You won’t see that on any Horizon game. Not to this extent anyway. If there’s something that’s immersion breaking it’s up front pop in, screen tearing and major frame drops. I guess my OCD has a lot to do with it bothering me. If I were a dev my games would probably take 6 years of dev time to release. 😅
This is nice and all but where’s the Legend of Dragoon on PS5 Pro video?
Rebirth looks sooo good on the pro
Shame it's gonna be way better on pc in a month
Square please, just release it to XBOX PLEASE!
They should PSSR patch Final Fantasy 7 Remake Integrade and Final Fantasy 16
I'm gonna play ffvii rebirth 4K 120fps next month, I will post proof of it
stranger of paradise 🔥🔥🔥
I still wonder why FF12 never got a 60fps update like it has on xbox
Because SE, that's why
@ well they updated the version on xbox to 60fps though
@@stargateheaven23 They did not updated it, they game was released on Xbox One and One X, the One X versions targeted 60fps day one. It's not an update, that's just how the port was done at the time. The ps5 and Series X didn't existed yet.
@ yeah it came out for one box one and xbox one x had a patch i thought.
Still, they need to come back at patch it.
Looking forward to PS6 for most of these heavy games that utilise upscaling or UE5 in general
Now do a comparison with the PC versions
Ever heard of the word "please"?
So Rebirth's Performance mode on PS5 doesn't use TSR to render at 4k? It just uses TSR to render at ~1300p, then just uses dumb upscaling to 4k...? Well that completely explains the very poor, blurry results on PS5 and does not provide a case for PSSR.
It doesn't use TSR. It's just UE4 TAA.
Counting the days until the PC version of Rebirth, game will be gorgeous in DLSS.
@@steel5897 I hope it will be better than the terrible port of Remake. If they do it right, it will looks way than the ps5/ps5 pro versions.
When PSSR on Final Fantasy Pixel Remasters!?
Do a video on slitterhead
PS5 Pro is simultaneously necessary to play new titles, and the worst move Sony has made in a decade.
Worse how?
I just want them to remove the 30fps lock from FF12 😞
Placing my bets before I get to it -- Stranger of Paradise is still a hot mess.
EDIT: Got to it, and... I guess frame rates are up, but I'm more concerned about how the game visually looks like it's smothered in vaseline.
Instead of "odd," I would call "versatility" a stupid term to have gone with.
Just target native 4k@60 with whatever sacrifices are required, and screw the graphics whores.
Hopefully Rebirth on pc will be better than this.
Didn't know FF16,or even CC and REMAKE were using DRS. This is nice! :D
CC is just native 4k
The pop-in on FF7 Rebirth is incredibly distracting
Look the new patch for Black Myth Wukong!