You guys are all morons. Spend some time on a job site instead of making videos in a garage.. Spend all day driving screws with a drill vs an impact and tell me how your wrists feel. It's not about speed.
Fun fact: the Phillips was originally designed to strip so that they wouldn’t be over tightened on assembly lines. They were never intended for general use but ended up so because manufacturing took over.
@@SurelyLightFoot incorrect. That is not mentioned anywhere in the patents or early marketing, it is a modern backsolve attempting to explain the obvious and massive flaw.
It's because the impactor doesnt transfer torque to your wrists. It's nothing to do with speed of insertion. Its because we put in 500 screws per day, 5 days per week and we dont like wrist pain.
@@ToolswithSoAlz You say incompetence, but he is not wrong. If you say otherwise you are just lying to yourself. The drill kills your wrist when doing decks like he said, putting in composite deck screws all day. The impact is pretty much the go to for everything now, except using drill bits to drill holes.
@gmoney1065 That is exactly why they're incompetent. They, like you, don't know what to use or when to use it. Too busy looking for what's easy instead of what's right
I used drills for the longest time when i first started my HVAC career and until one day i had accidentally left my tools at home and had to borrow someone elses, using an impact was like night and day, my bits lasting longer, not stripping out screw heads, not struggling in odd spaces or weird angle. I had no clue what i was missing, i went and bought an impact next payday and have never looked back, my drill only gets used to drill holes now.
I remember pulling a droplight around with me, in attics, so I could plug in my, corded, Dewalt drill, that was about 14" long, without a bit, and awkward af
I started HVAC install a few months ago. Bought a Milwaukee drill/impact set. Have only used the impact and was curious if I was doing it wrong. Thanks for the reassurance
I prefer the impact for driving screws since it’s easier on the hand. But for delicate work, I prefer using the drill with the clutch set to the appropriate torque.
It has a driving mode for a reason unless your potentially little brain got a drill driver instead of a hammer drill. The title is "You're using the wrong tool" for a reason.
I’ve never used the hammer mode 😂, that what it’s for , I thought it was for concrete , I’ve never used the impacts either , in early 2000s my job supplied makitas but I didn’t get one , so it’s always been a drill , except for snap on pneumatic, oh I have craftsman guy for lug nuts but it’s not that good , I bought adapter to use the 18m batteries
@@joecox310Hammer mode works quite well when drilling with large auger bits through large PT beams and poles. Try it you will be surprised how much it helps.
The impact is more responsive to adjust at the end of the drive. For rough carpentry that’s fine. Besides hardware, and impact provides more control for sinking the fastener. At the end of that drive, a quick trigger pull with the drill will turn minimum 3/8 to 1/2 a turn or the drill will time out, or the torque will overtake your wrist. With the impact, a quick hit on the trigger gives very small adjustment and it will try to keep driving until the battery dies. Thats why I personally prefer the impact 90% of the time. To each their own.
THIS!! 🎉 YES. You're speaking my language. A drill will drive screws in deep and quick, we all know that. But an impact will be able to drive screws to the EXACT spot you want them to be, every time. For building decks, or hanging drywall, that's very important. A drill will send a drywall screw wayyy too far before you can stop it. A deck will have deck screws at various depths throughout the build.
Impact drivers saves your wrist. When you are using the drill you have to use your wrist to counteract the torque that is being applied to the drill body. The impact is using its own inertia to counteract the torque. One is more effective short term, one more effective long term.
Never heard of anybody having problems with them wrists because of using drills. Here in austria its totally normal to use the drill. Actually i never saw an impact on the construction site
Thats for sure not correct, the force doesn’t magically disappear just because you’re using an impact. Your arm still has to hold a net force equal to the force it takes to move the screw through the timber. Draw a diagram if you need
I use an impact driver because as an automotive technician, I can grab a ph3 Philips head bit and hammer out any rusted bolt or torque down a seat frame bolt :). Also impact drivers are lighter than hammer drills.
Some people use impacts on screws for “easy use” and to “not hurt their hand as much.” I just love the ugga dugga. Can’t really compare it to anything. I just like loud noises to break up the silence
@@ToolswithSoAlz I think you just answered your own question there. The impact drive will be less stress on everything, the tool, the fastener, and your hand.
Because if you use a drill and hit another nail or obstruction in the way when drilling, that drill is gonna spin, break your wrist, smack you in the face or both
Not if you have a proper drill for such an application. Straight drill would do what you said but with a drill that has a screw drive setting and proper torque settings would do neither of those dangers that you said.
Super important that you mention you use a hexhead instead of a phillips , because the likelihood of stripping , it is more so also the force on your wrist is a lot better with the impact versus the constant torque of the Drill driver but w/e floats your boat
You’re correct. I’d always used a drill to tighten screws and small bolts and refused to buy an impact driver until I wasn’t holding the drill as firmly as I should, and it TWISTED MY WRIST and had it sore for several days. I then quickly bought an impact driver. No more injured wrists.
@dmandman9 related story. I was drilling a half inch through some steel with a old school hole hog and the bit bound, the drill spun around , fucked my shin and knocked me on my ass holding my shin. Somewhere in there it broke the bit
@@Capthrax1 The Milwaukee Hole Hawgs are absolute beasts. Spent many hours as an apprentice electrician drilling studs with the "long tom" Hawg. It is an odd looking drill with it's chuck way out on the angled end of a 30 inch extension! Lets you do the whole room without ever needing a ladder. We were doing new apartments at the time and I was the new guy so running that heavy bitch all day was my job!
@@robertpulliam4152yes, yes they do😂 nothing More annoying than listening to impact going for hours and hours. in My opinion impact is made for torque, busting rusted lugs or bolts or nuts, drill on The other hand has The cltuch, so its optimall for driving any screws
@@Opiie yeah i get you, just My opinion, even If im the one usung it the sound is just so annoying +a drill has The cltuch so its very useful for stuff where you dont Want over torque
Good solution. For those that can't afford a bunch of different sized tools check out knuckle drivers, 90 degree adapters, whatever you want to call it. Gets you into some pretty tight spaces.
Right! Really could have used an M18 Fuel or DeWalt stubby impact instead of my 9" drill to take drywall screws out above a cabinet with 7" clearance. Had to use a stubby hand screw driver. Now I have an M18.
Just telling you from experience, sometimes the impact will run it up when the drill struggles. We also always ran philips heads. I dont know why, but if you get into hard wood or your screws are dull or some combination of the two. The drill just won't do it and keeps camming out, but the impact will send it home.
Yea, also, with a drill, if that screw somehow stops, while you're screwing, it'll fuck your wrist up. But I've burnt out a DeWalt impact with multiple 8" Timberloks
@@caseywilliams5406im not even saying hes flat out wrong the drill clearly looks faster im just saying sometimes its not about speed and the impact is beter suited for the job. Like in the example i mentioned before im sure most of the time you could push really hard and MIGHT(i stress might because sometimes it seems impossible) be able to keep it from caming out of a philips. But the impact will make light work of it. And when your having to run thousands of screws a day I dont want to fight pressing down with all my might trying to keep it from kicking out. Ill go with the tool that takes slightly longer but is easier on my body everytime.
Because a Phillips head screw you can send it home and it will be flush to the surface. The hex head or bolt type head once it's flush or drivin home harder to get back out if need be and will not look as good .
You're comparing apples to oranges. That Flex impact driver only has an IPM of 3800. The equivalent Milwaukee impact driver has an IPM of 4900. For those who don't know, IPM stands for impacts per minute. You can have all the torque in the world on an impact driver and it won't matter if the IPM is low.
@@Joe_And_Nina_Pierceit's not an "impact wrench" though. It's an impact driver, an impact wrench is considerably more power hungry, provides far more torque at a lower speed, and has a 1/4", 3/8", or 1/2" square male head to accept sockets as opposed to a 1/4" hex female quick release to accept driver bits.
Because before all these beefy drills came along, the only way to get any long screws deep into wood without snapping the heads off was with an impact driver. But since I don't do construction anymore, it doesn't matter anymore.
Because if you're doing that all day long you'll be more fatigued using your drill driver than you would if you're using your impact you have to hold the force of the drill driver the entire time the impact only has slight little impacts your body absorbs a lot easier leaving you less fatigue at the end of the day I'm happy that I was able to clarify this for you
Yea but if you have ever timber framed you'll know the impact will die when you use it all day. Gets waaaay too hot compensating the torque. Drill with the handle attachment all day. Don't be dumb and break your wrist lol way faster drill for the win.
I’m not a contractor, so I do around the house projects. I use my 9amp corded Milwaukee Magnum 1/2 keyless chuck drill. It kicks ass, never runs out of battery power, will run a 5/8 - 10” long lag screw into pressure treated lumber, no problem. I’ve had it 22 years. Works everytime even if I haven’t used it for 2yrs.
that's what an impact is for. driving screws, bolts, and lags, into hard runs, which can eventually burn up your drill. drill is good for drilling and running short screws. but if it's gonna cause a hard drag I know that the impact will last longer. I still have the first impact from 10 years ago, I've been through 3 drills.
@@ToolswithSoAlzLast time I used a drill to drive deck screw, I burned up the drill. Sure you could say it was incompetence because I didn't give the drill time to cool down, but if you're argument is based on overall speed, stopping every ten minutes or so to let a drill cool down is going to be way slower than using an impact that just keeps going.
I love how his comment rules are be open minded and kind but nearly every comment ive red from the poster hes states " your letting your excuses expose your incompetence" with out having a discord.
When we were kids dad would make us drive those in by hand to get our arm and wrist strength up. On really big screws we used an old fashioned brace. No batteries and it’s nice and quiet
Ma'am, where should I start correcting you? Your unimaginably poor grammar. Which shows you are either uneducated or the product of a family where Mommy is Daddy's favorite sister or telling you that you know absolutely nothing about tools. Since I doubt you'll ever have the mental capacity to correct your second grade, if I'm being generous, grammar, then I'll simply tell you how clueless you are when it comes to tools. I feel sorry for you. One thing is very clear here, Drivel, and that is that I doubt you know who your father is.
A powerful drill will be faster, but a lot of people, including me, sometimes just appreciate the fact that the impact is easier on the wrist in the long run. As a small person it can be a little sketchy to stand on a tall step ladder, while trying to insert a large fastener while holding the drill with one hand. With the impact however it’s a lot easier. Slower and noisier, sure, but easier and less risk. Overall, I think you’ve proven your point fairly well by now when reading through the comments. Most people are now just bringing up the ease of use with the impact, instead of trying to claim that you’re doing some to big wrong.
Increased torque can break ur wrist or damage drill motor as it puts the force on the motor directly. An impact essentially uses the impact as a slip clutch, less wrist breaky and less harsh on the motor. If you put both on an unmovable bolt or something, you will smoke out the drill but the impact will just ugadugga all day.
So you believe the slower tool, that has metal hitting on metal, building heat, and transferring the heat through the motor, is going to last longer. That's your argument?
@@ToolswithSoAlzThe impact is a relatively constant load on the motor, meaning that the current stays the same, and willing to bet a lot lower, since torque is derived from the dogs hitting the anvil. The drill derives its torque from the motor, meaning that the torque it provides is directly proportional to the current in the motor. Higher current= higher heat. It'd be interesting to see an ammeter connected in series with the battery to determine the draw.
@@ToolswithSoAlz Geez man showing a complete lack of mechanical knowledge he is completely correct, the drill (being brushless) is better than an older brushed drill for the same reason. The impact drivers are lighter and easier to handle but not necessarily quicker than a drill driver.
Ma'am you ladies are sharing a complete ignorance of how these tools actually work when you're using them. Also, you whiny bunch of pickle puffers, I have already proven that I am right and you are wrong. I literally burned an impact driver to the ground doing a much larger fastener and did it by watching it fail to drive three; and it took 20 minutes for that. Whereas the drill drove the exact same fastener time and time again without even getting warm. In doing three the impact driver got up to nearly 200°. In doing 7 the drill was barely ay 90°. Oh and before y'all open the dumb hole, I did it live! I had an audience of 800. So, you ladies think you know but I actually do. You're all a bunch of posers
I use impacts for driving self tapping screws that are fully powder coated. Manufacture, can't figure out which end of the screw should be coated. Blast through. Wood gets drills, and heavy pressure.
I honestly didn’t know that it can make a difference! Now that I’ve seen videos of other workers trying out the driver for long screws. I started doing it myself. Let’s just say, I learned a lot.
They insist because their claim is that the drill will “kick back” … but in reality it’s just because they can detach/insert bits and it’s not as heavy as the drill lol I’ve only ever had my drill kick back when I’m making holes for pipes/wires at very awkward angles/high spots…. Which is like 5% of the time Really should be using an angle drill tho lol
It depends on the fastener, and what I’m screwing into. if you’re screwing drywall screws into a metal stud, you’ll definitely enjoy the experience more with an impact. It just depends on what you’re doing.
Because if the fastener catched on something while using my drill and I was not using an assistant handle, the drill will break my wrist. The impact driver is way easier to control and it is very unlikely to drive so many 10-in fasteners for the same project
@steveroswell1612 Yes, the drill has a clutch. However the motor does not do well under such loads for so long. It burns the motor out after doing 30-40 of them in a row. It's cheaper to buy one impact that can be used on hundreds of job sites, than to have to buy a new drill every job site.
Impact is great for that. You loosen the bolts anyways with proper long torque wrench, and then quickly pull out the bolt and drive new in. Because low 125 nm hammering you can' tighten the bolt to first racking sound and stop right there. And then take the torque wrench and tigethen to proper torque. It could be done with the drill as well with clutch, but it is just smaller.
Calm down men, that shit is smoking, for woorworking we always use drills to drill and drive bolts of any type, I would like to use impact driver to drive bolts aswell just for the light-weight those thing are.
A drill can do thin screws like that by will twist you're wrist off when trying to use it on anything larger. Drills are also not meant for that so it will burn out faster.
@vihreelinja4743 Exactly, drill motor will burn itself out after 30 of them. Companies and private contractors don't have that kind of money to buy 3-4 drills a job site just because it's "faster".
@@dirtysilver2841 The drill in second gear wasn't even struggling driving that screw in. That's its intended use so it will last you for years doing that. What you said makes me wonder why most construction work here in europe is still being done using drills. That with our building codes being much more stringent and our houses not having paper walls...
I always reach for the impact just because I have zero worries twisting my wrist with it. They are also a little smaller for tight spots. A drill definitely works a little faster but I prefer using a impact
Exactly. Impacts are smaller, lighter and much easier on the wrist and forearm. That little bit of weight savings makes a BIG difference after a full day of driving screws.
I agree. Battery life and less cam out. The impact can also spin faster when there is minimal load. Also those fasteners are only threaded for the first two inches, not saying anything would be different in the end, just sayin.
@RevlisGT , I agree with you... but for the thread part... that's what most wood screws are like now... not supposed to be threaded thenwole way. If you are screwing 2 pieces or wood together.. then There should only be threads in the second piece of wood not both
And now most guys only use impacts to run tapcons and screws for windows and doors. Been doing windows now for 6 years and my boss been doing it for 40 years, if drills were so much better I’m sure he’d be using one instead of the impacts. But we don’t, impact is lighter, and just overall better. Swap bits faster, and can go into tighter spaces. I’ll take my impact that’s half the head size of the drill and weighs a lot less
@@hakont.4960 so you are more likely to find an impact in a house than a drill? I didn't mean businesses. Impacts are common in mechanic shops and so on.
I did my deck at home. 5000 stainless screws. I'd still be screwing them if I used the impact driver. I got my big electric drill and buzzed them in quickly.
I keep trying to teach this to all the wise guys at the campground trying to impact their camper jacks up and down all freaking day. Drill is faster and much quieter
I work construction in germany andd we hardly even use impact drivers their just too loud and slow the only time we use one is if we got some giant ass screws where the regular drill doesnt have enough force
Jeah, in germany impact drivers are used for everything hex related. For screws we use drills with torx heads. The inly thung i were jealous of these impact drivers was their small form factor but since i got my bosch flexiclick i got that covered aswell.
The giggle of an impact resets the bite on the fastener, persistent torque from a drill walks off the fastener. An experienced craftsman would know that. Glad I could help.
My drill is stronger than my impact, there's some heavy lags that my drill will drive but my impact won't. However, I need to put a lot of pressure and torque into the drill, while the impact just needs to be held there, making it useful in awkward positions.
I work in animal removal, and I like the impact because it’s smaller and fits into tighter spaces, more convenient all around If I was building decks or something drill is likely the way to go
I see your point as far as speed. For my wrists that have been bashed and smashed from decades of abuse, the impact doesn't throw my joints the same jolt that the drill does. It may not be the perfect solution for most, but it still is a superior tool for me.
Last I checked, this isn't how you would join pieces of lumber together and you don't go down and back up quickly either. No, you're letting your excuses expose your incompetence
53 Million people have watched me on RUclips. How many have seen you Miss? It's not my fault you're slow. I blame the generations of your family's inbreeding
@@ToolswithSoAlz I’ve seen quite a few, and enjoyed them all as well. I don’t disagree with your assertion, just consistency of delivery. Something about a dead horse, yeah?
I stopped using the 1/4 inch impacts many uears ago. Since lithium and brushless. A regular drill has so much more torque. The big drills will mess up your wrists if your not careful. 😅
Only reason I use an impact driver is for very tight space, because the device generally is much shorter. For everything else woodworking, a drill. Only application I use an impact driver always is for the wheelnuts on my car. I havr a specialised impact driver for that (not suitable for screwing/woodworking) and that works great. Cant see any normal drill do that and thats fine.
high torque applications mean that in a direct drive drill, the motor is seeing high current and will become really hot if you need to do the same thing hundreds of times.
I’ve been using a m12 Milwaukee drill for the last 7 years as a electrician while others use the impact and my m12 always outperforms the impacts on long or larger fasteners
Because the drill chuck will not hold the bit driver as well as a impact. Try being up on a roof and the bit driver falls out, rolls down the roof and onto the ground. After a couple of times, you'll be tossing the drill. Only time I use a drill is for bigger drill bits, paddle bits and hammer drilling etc.
The reason I used it, back in the day, was because the drill would drain the battery twice as fast and we were out on the road where you couldn't charge up.
Remember, putting too much pressure on the drill itself is also slower. Notice how he isnt pushing hard...soooo many people dont know thats how you do it
This the best example you’ve had in awhile ! I agree and it’s clear
Thank you
Don't forget impact cant handle all day use on timber projects. You will destroy its life. Put the handle on the drill if you can't hold it down.
@@jacobrideout3214 facts
Why he used the same whole for the second example?
You guys are all morons. Spend some time on a job site instead of making videos in a garage.. Spend all day driving screws with a drill vs an impact and tell me how your wrists feel. It's not about speed.
Why? Because the impact is already on my belt and the drill is down at the bottom of the ladder 😂😂
Lol
Exactly
More like all the way in the work truck lol
Valid lol
This is the correct answer
Because the drill would destroy a Phillips screw head. Hex screws are different.
Yup
Facts!
Philips: so bad they invented a new type of driver to try and fix it
Fun fact: the Phillips was originally designed to strip so that they wouldn’t be over tightened on assembly lines. They were never intended for general use but ended up so because manufacturing took over.
@@SurelyLightFoot incorrect. That is not mentioned anywhere in the patents or early marketing, it is a modern backsolve attempting to explain the obvious and massive flaw.
It's because the impactor doesnt transfer torque to your wrists. It's nothing to do with speed of insertion. Its because we put in 500 screws per day, 5 days per week and we dont like wrist pain.
You're letting your excuses expose your incompetence
@@ToolswithSoAlz You say incompetence, but he is not wrong. If you say otherwise you are just lying to yourself. The drill kills your wrist when doing decks like he said, putting in composite deck screws all day. The impact is pretty much the go to for everything now, except using drill bits to drill holes.
@gmoney1065 That is exactly why they're incompetent. They, like you, don't know what to use or when to use it. Too busy looking for what's easy instead of what's right
@ToolswithSoAlz I'm incompentent? 😂 You sound like you dont know much about working professionally with tools.
@@hubzo1yea he makes videos of using tools while other people actually use them.
An impact driver won’t take you for a ride and break your wrist if it catches a ridge or a knot.
That’s why.
Then you should know what you're doing before you attempt to use tools
Tell the content creator that not me
Ma'am I was telling you so that you don't break a nail the next time you think about touching a tool
@ToolswithSoAlz you sound like a real tough guy bro😂
Put your pp away and play with your clutch instead
I used drills for the longest time when i first started my HVAC career and until one day i had accidentally left my tools at home and had to borrow someone elses, using an impact was like night and day, my bits lasting longer, not stripping out screw heads, not struggling in odd spaces or weird angle. I had no clue what i was missing, i went and bought an impact next payday and have never looked back, my drill only gets used to drill holes now.
I remember pulling a droplight around with me, in attics, so I could plug in my, corded, Dewalt drill, that was about 14" long, without a bit, and awkward af
I started HVAC install a few months ago. Bought a Milwaukee drill/impact set. Have only used the impact and was curious if I was doing it wrong. Thanks for the reassurance
@@jordanurlacher4089 are you paid hourly or by the job and how much?
same here
cost is different for sure
I prefer the impact for driving screws since it’s easier on the hand. But for delicate work, I prefer using the drill with the clutch set to the appropriate torque.
It has a driving mode for a reason unless your potentially little brain got a drill driver instead of a hammer drill. The title is "You're using the wrong tool" for a reason.
I’ve never used the hammer mode 😂, that what it’s for , I thought it was for concrete , I’ve never used the impacts either , in early 2000s my job supplied makitas but I didn’t get one , so it’s always been a drill , except for snap on pneumatic, oh I have craftsman guy for lug nuts but it’s not that good , I bought adapter to use the 18m batteries
Hammer mode is for concrete.
@@joecox310Hammer mode works quite well when drilling with large auger bits through large PT beams and poles. Try it you will be surprised how much it helps.
@@RcPlayer-tt2vw hammer mode is for concrete and masonry.
Let’s see how many screws like that you can keep driving with a drill verses an impact driver… you’ll find out why!
Ma'am you're letting your excuses expose your incompetence
@@ToolswithSoAlz почему вы уходите от ответа? Сколько?
Ma'am because the answer won't make a fool like you happy. The drill can do a lot more but you wouldn't know
@@ToolswithSoAlz Drive 500 screws with your drill every day for a week. Then do it with an impact. Then stfu.
@TheIslandExpat Ma'am, you're letting your excuses expose your incompetence. Maybe you should let your husband use the tools while you watch.
Drill is for drilling, impact is for impacting
If you don't even know the basics you should remain silent and learn
Well you ain't wrong but mabye... in another idea... my impact is a hammer... hehe impact joke.
@@ToolswithSoAlzthat joke went right over your head didn’t it bud.
Ugadooga
@@ToolswithSoAlzAll I know is, things are spinning :D
Because it's lighter half the size and alot more balanced
@snap-off5383 harder faster more money, build sheds and do carpentry work 10 times quicker with a impact driver so I'm going to keep using them
The impact is more responsive to adjust at the end of the drive.
For rough carpentry that’s fine.
Besides hardware, and impact provides more control for sinking the fastener.
At the end of that drive, a quick trigger pull with the drill will turn minimum 3/8 to 1/2 a turn or the drill will time out, or the torque will overtake your wrist.
With the impact, a quick hit on the trigger gives very small adjustment and it will try to keep driving until the battery dies.
Thats why I personally prefer the impact 90% of the time.
To each their own.
THIS!! 🎉 YES. You're speaking my language. A drill will drive screws in deep and quick, we all know that. But an impact will be able to drive screws to the EXACT spot you want them to be, every time. For building decks, or hanging drywall, that's very important. A drill will send a drywall screw wayyy too far before you can stop it. A deck will have deck screws at various depths throughout the build.
@@SawtoothWilda drill has a clutch, you can adjust it to make the screws go in just the right amount
@SawtoothWild that control comes from it being slower, but you can also just change the drill to a slower speed
@cappydawg he said that he doesn't know how to use a drill
@@SawtoothWildyou don’t know how to use a drill
Impact drivers saves your wrist. When you are using the drill you have to use your wrist to counteract the torque that is being applied to the drill body. The impact is using its own inertia to counteract the torque. One is more effective short term, one more effective long term.
Ok
Never heard of anybody having problems with them wrists because of using drills. Here in austria its totally normal to use the drill. Actually i never saw an impact on the construction site
Thats for sure not correct, the force doesn’t magically disappear just because you’re using an impact. Your arm still has to hold a net force equal to the force it takes to move the screw through the timber. Draw a diagram if you need
I use an impact driver because as an automotive technician, I can grab a ph3 Philips head bit and hammer out any rusted bolt or torque down a seat frame bolt :). Also impact drivers are lighter than hammer drills.
The quick change on the impact is what does it for me 💯
You know they make a quick change for drills
@@ToolswithSoAlz Exactly what I use...
Some people use impacts on screws for “easy use” and to “not hurt their hand as much.” I just love the ugga dugga. Can’t really compare it to anything. I just like loud noises to break up the silence
Specially if you're one of the early people in the jobsite and just wanna hear that ugga dugga, it just makes me do more 😂
😂😂
I agree! Makes me feel like I’m doing something🤣
That milwaukee was cooking that screw.
K
I’m glad you never touched that second screw when it was removed!
Yeah is was hot. Good thing is I lost the feeling in my fingers years ago
Well, I hope you don't drive screws into woods just to remove it immediately 😅. If you do, you stick with ya impact driver.
I'm not I wish he would have grabbed it to show us it was a real SCREW😅
@@ToolswithSoAlz I think you just answered your own question there. The impact drive will be less stress on everything, the tool, the fastener, and your hand.
@@sandiegodan but would make more noise and vibration while wasting your precious time.
Because if you use a drill and hit another nail or obstruction in the way when drilling, that drill is gonna spin, break your wrist, smack you in the face or both
Not if you have a proper drill for such an application. Straight drill would do what you said but with a drill that has a screw drive setting and proper torque settings would do neither of those dangers that you said.
If you’ve got a fairly limp wrist it might.
Yep. One fully cleaned clock over here. It just caught, and all I could do was hold on to the ladder and check with my tongue for missing teeth.
They have the technology to not allow the drills to catch like that.
@jasoncurtis4404 no they don't.... especially with your limp wrists. No 'technology' could ever power those limp flappers uo.
Super important that you mention you use a hexhead instead of a phillips , because the likelihood of stripping , it is more so also the force on your wrist is a lot better with the impact versus the constant torque of the Drill driver but w/e floats your boat
They don’t even sell giant lag screws like that with a Phillips bit. All are made with torque /star head bits or hex head.
You’re correct. I’d always used a drill to tighten screws and small bolts and refused to buy an impact driver until I wasn’t holding the drill as firmly as I should, and it TWISTED MY WRIST and had it sore for several days. I then quickly bought an impact driver. No more injured wrists.
@dmandman9 related story. I was drilling a half inch through some steel with a old school hole hog and the bit bound, the drill spun around , fucked my shin and knocked me on my ass holding my shin.
Somewhere in there it broke the bit
@@Capthrax1 The Milwaukee Hole Hawgs are absolute beasts. Spent many hours as an apprentice electrician drilling studs with the "long tom" Hawg. It is an odd looking drill with it's chuck way out on the angled end of a 30 inch extension! Lets you do the whole room without ever needing a ladder. We were doing new apartments at the time and I was the new guy so running that heavy bitch all day was my job!
Mayn you mericans should start using torx
Man’s wrist when he’s in the nursing home unable to lift his spoon. “You should have used the impact hammer; you fool”
Ma'am, not all of us have your limp wrist. Better let your husband use the tools while you watch
Impact is now used for everything including 2”deck screws making a nice afternoon project into a noisy affair.
The milwaukee fuel surge is very quiet
Aww do they bother your sensitive little ears?
@@robertpulliam4152yes, yes they do😂 nothing More annoying than listening to impact going for hours and hours. in My opinion impact is made for torque, busting rusted lugs or bolts or nuts, drill on The other hand has The cltuch, so its optimall for driving any screws
@@Opiieyeah, but why Make it loud when you can Have it silent and equal or Even better
@@Opiie yeah i get you, just My opinion, even If im the one usung it the sound is just so annoying +a drill has The cltuch so its very useful for stuff where you dont Want over torque
It’s just lighter, and a lot more compact. My compact m18 impact will fit in the smallest spots that no one else’s drill can reach.
I have the compact Dewalt for those tight spots then i got the flex tools for my bigger projects. those little 12v have some power these days
Good solution. For those that can't afford a bunch of different sized tools check out knuckle drivers, 90 degree adapters, whatever you want to call it. Gets you into some pretty tight spaces.
Try a 90° drill it works, there is also a 90° impact as well. Milwaukee and 3M make battery and air over variants as well.
The impacts are much easier on a body that has 30 years of construction miles on it.
Right! Really could have used an M18 Fuel or DeWalt stubby impact instead of my 9" drill to take drywall screws out above a cabinet with 7" clearance. Had to use a stubby hand screw driver. Now I have an M18.
Just telling you from experience, sometimes the impact will run it up when the drill struggles. We also always ran philips heads. I dont know why, but if you get into hard wood or your screws are dull or some combination of the two. The drill just won't do it and keeps camming out, but the impact will send it home.
Yea, also, with a drill, if that screw somehow stops, while you're screwing, it'll fuck your wrist up. But I've burnt out a DeWalt impact with multiple 8" Timberloks
@@brettc5386Agreed, if your drill gets stopped, good luck getting it started again without having to back it up first.
Yah, we've all started a screw with a drill and had to finish it off with an impact driver.
@@caseywilliams5406im not even saying hes flat out wrong the drill clearly looks faster im just saying sometimes its not about speed and the impact is beter suited for the job. Like in the example i mentioned before im sure most of the time you could push really hard and MIGHT(i stress might because sometimes it seems impossible) be able to keep it from caming out of a philips. But the impact will make light work of it. And when your having to run thousands of screws a day I dont want to fight pressing down with all my might trying to keep it from kicking out. Ill go with the tool that takes slightly longer but is easier on my body everytime.
Because a Phillips head screw you can send it home and it will be flush to the surface. The hex head or bolt type head once it's flush or drivin home harder to get back out if need be and will not look as good .
You're comparing apples to oranges. That Flex impact driver only has an IPM of 3800. The equivalent Milwaukee impact driver has an IPM of 4900. For those who don't know, IPM stands for impacts per minute. You can have all the torque in the world on an impact driver and it won't matter if the IPM is low.
Ma'am you're letting your arrogance expose your ignorance. You don't even have the brains to listen
@@ToolswithSoAlzdo you just copy and past all your insulting comments!? You seem very bitter bro...get help.
@@jackyjew8607 lmao he’s copying and pasting them
I mean… one’s called a drill, and the other is called a driver. I’m sure the names in no way indicate the original intended use of either.
There’s a switch on top of your drill with a picture of a screw on it. Wonder what that’s for? Also, they’re called drill/drivers.
well i mean The name impact "wrench" definitely doesn't indicate the tools purpose in the slightest.
@@Joe_And_Nina_Pierceit's not an "impact wrench" though. It's an impact driver, an impact wrench is considerably more power hungry, provides far more torque at a lower speed, and has a 1/4", 3/8", or 1/2" square male head to accept sockets as opposed to a 1/4" hex female quick release to accept driver bits.
To be fair one is called a drill/driver and one is called an impact driver
A drills name is drill driver, the other is called an impact driver. We shorten the names to drill and impact, not drill and driver.
Because before all these beefy drills came along, the only way to get any long screws deep into wood without snapping the heads off was with an impact driver. But since I don't do construction anymore, it doesn't matter anymore.
You're letting your excuses expose your ignorance
Ma'am you're doubling down on your own ignorance
@@ToolswithSoAlzisn't using a hammer drill a bit like cheating? They're designed to bore thru concrete and brick.
Wrong, my family built houses all over the West Coast back in the 70s and never used an impact driver. How far back you talking?
@@keirabun7861he didn't have it in hammer mode, he had it in drill mode
Because if you're doing that all day long you'll be more fatigued using your drill driver than you would if you're using your impact you have to hold the force of the drill driver the entire time the impact only has slight little impacts your body absorbs a lot easier leaving you less fatigue at the end of the day I'm happy that I was able to clarify this for you
Everyone sleeps on this.
Yea but if you have ever timber framed you'll know the impact will die when you use it all day. Gets waaaay too hot compensating the torque. Drill with the handle attachment all day. Don't be dumb and break your wrist lol way faster drill for the win.
Impact for the win faster more torque and more control of stopping when u need it to for metal roofs
@@ddh3098 so wrong lol
@@jacobrideout3214 Who timber frames with an impact or a drill. Don't be dumb, use a nail gun.
I’m not a contractor, so I do around the house projects. I use my 9amp corded Milwaukee Magnum 1/2 keyless chuck drill. It kicks ass, never runs out of battery power, will run a 5/8 - 10” long lag screw into pressure treated lumber, no problem. I’ve had it 22 years. Works everytime even if I haven’t used it for 2yrs.
that's what an impact is for. driving screws, bolts, and lags, into hard runs, which can eventually burn up your drill. drill is good for drilling and running short screws. but if it's gonna cause a hard drag I know that the impact will last longer. I still have the first impact from 10 years ago, I've been through 3 drills.
You're letting your excuses expose your incompetence
@@ToolswithSoAlzLast time I used a drill to drive deck screw, I burned up the drill. Sure you could say it was incompetence because I didn't give the drill time to cool down, but if you're argument is based on overall speed, stopping every ten minutes or so to let a drill cool down is going to be way slower than using an impact that just keeps going.
@jsax01001010 you're incompetent and shouldn't be using tools, let alone buying them
I love how his comment rules are be open minded and kind but nearly every comment ive red from the poster hes states " your letting your excuses expose your incompetence" with out having a discord.
@@justinleonard4411 Yeah, I noticed that too. Quite the double standard.
Aint no way he called the flex the “fastest and most powerful impact on the market”
Exactly. Flex is alright but if you're really going to do a test like this he should have done a Milwaukee drill vs Milwaukee driver.
I’m a Milwaukee guy but check the tests out. It’s true
Another person who thinks speed is what matters…. What you gained in speed you lost in size, weight, quick changing bits, just to name a few
Ma'am if you don't know what you're talking about you should remain silent and learn before commenting to make yourself look like a fool
I was like wow that flex isnt so bad.... then milwaukee said hold my beer 😂
I knew the drill would win, the Flex was impressive
Yes it is
Yeah, the speed of the flex had me thinking it was the drill at first.
Amazing
Got over $1,000 worth of flex there great tools
When we were kids dad would make us drive those in by hand to get our arm and wrist strength up. On really big screws we used an old fashioned brace. No batteries and it’s nice and quiet
That spackle line on the ceiling is god awful 😂
Best comment on here. He can't be genius at every damn thing😂
This guys a tool. His replies to fair statements is astounding. Must've been a dream to teach.
Ma'am, where should I start correcting you? Your unimaginably poor grammar. Which shows you are either uneducated or the product of a family where Mommy is Daddy's favorite sister or telling you that you know absolutely nothing about tools. Since I doubt you'll ever have the mental capacity to correct your second grade, if I'm being generous, grammar, then I'll simply tell you how clueless you are when it comes to tools. I feel sorry for you. One thing is very clear here, Drivel, and that is that I doubt you know who your father is.
I like the sound impact makes 😂
@@brentdennard6722 bold of you to assume I work construction of any kind for work
A powerful drill will be faster, but a lot of people, including me, sometimes just appreciate the fact that the impact is easier on the wrist in the long run. As a small person it can be a little sketchy to stand on a tall step ladder, while trying to insert a large fastener while holding the drill with one hand. With the impact however it’s a lot easier. Slower and noisier, sure, but easier and less risk.
Overall, I think you’ve proven your point fairly well by now when reading through the comments. Most people are now just bringing up the ease of use with the impact, instead of trying to claim that you’re doing some to big wrong.
Increased torque can break ur wrist or damage drill motor as it puts the force on the motor directly. An impact essentially uses the impact as a slip clutch, less wrist breaky and less harsh on the motor. If you put both on an unmovable bolt or something, you will smoke out the drill but the impact will just ugadugga all day.
Lol! You're letting your excuses expose your incompetence
2 reasons:
- space, I can fit the impact in tiny places.
- staling, I have burnt out 3 drills driving 6x120mm screws…
Nope
Holy fuck what cheap drills did you use?
The drill will burn out faster than the impact.
So you believe the slower tool, that has metal hitting on metal, building heat, and transferring the heat through the motor, is going to last longer. That's your argument?
@@ToolswithSoAlzThe impact is a relatively constant load on the motor, meaning that the current stays the same, and willing to bet a lot lower, since torque is derived from the dogs hitting the anvil.
The drill derives its torque from the motor, meaning that the torque it provides is directly proportional to the current in the motor. Higher current= higher heat.
It'd be interesting to see an ammeter connected in series with the battery to determine the draw.
@@ToolswithSoAlz Geez man showing a complete lack of mechanical knowledge he is completely correct, the drill (being brushless) is better than an older brushed drill for the same reason. The impact drivers are lighter and easier to handle but not necessarily quicker than a drill driver.
Ma'am you ladies are sharing a complete ignorance of how these tools actually work when you're using them. Also, you whiny bunch of pickle puffers, I have already proven that I am right and you are wrong. I literally burned an impact driver to the ground doing a much larger fastener and did it by watching it fail to drive three; and it took 20 minutes for that. Whereas the drill drove the exact same fastener time and time again without even getting warm. In doing three the impact driver got up to nearly 200°. In doing 7 the drill was barely ay 90°. Oh and before y'all open the dumb hole, I did it live! I had an audience of 800. So, you ladies think you know but I actually do. You're all a bunch of posers
@ToolswithSoAlz you callin someone a pickle puffer while sayin flex is the best impact is hilarious. Your husband is probably ashamed of you
Dude, that Milwaukee got a huge boost from that new HO battery pack 😂
I use impacts for driving self tapping screws that are fully powder coated.
Manufacture, can't figure out which end of the screw should be coated. Blast through.
Wood gets drills, and heavy pressure.
I honestly didn’t know that it can make a difference! Now that I’ve seen videos of other workers trying out the driver for long screws. I started doing it myself. Let’s just say, I learned a lot.
Awesome
They insist because their claim is that the drill will “kick back” … but in reality it’s just because they can detach/insert bits and it’s not as heavy as the drill lol
I’ve only ever had my drill kick back when I’m making holes for pipes/wires at very awkward angles/high spots…. Which is like 5% of the time
Really should be using an angle drill tho lol
Lol
Many will insist because they've had it happen.
It depends on the fastener, and what I’m screwing into. if you’re screwing drywall screws into a metal stud, you’ll definitely enjoy the experience more with an impact. It just depends on what you’re doing.
Apparently it’s because we’re all by the hour
The Drill was so fast that the wood started smoking 😂😂😂 Great Scott!!!
Because if the fastener catched on something while using my drill and I was not using an assistant handle, the drill will break my wrist.
The impact driver is way easier to control and it is very unlikely to drive so many 10-in fasteners for the same project
Nah... not anymore... most drills have a built in amti-kik safety feature bow
@@steveroswell1612yep I was going to say the same, I have a half inch drill that I'm glad it has that feature lol
@steveroswell1612
Yes, the drill has a clutch. However the motor does not do well under such loads for so long. It burns the motor out after doing 30-40 of them in a row. It's cheaper to buy one impact that can be used on hundreds of job sites, than to have to buy a new drill every job site.
@dirtysilver2841 just gonna leave this here.
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I only use my impact for taking semi truck tires off when doing any sort of lag bolt
Impact is great for that. You loosen the bolts anyways with proper long torque wrench, and then quickly pull out the bolt and drive new in. Because low 125 nm hammering you can' tighten the bolt to first racking sound and stop right there.
And then take the torque wrench and tigethen to proper torque.
It could be done with the drill as well with clutch, but it is just smaller.
Some of us older heads used drills long before the drivers came out
Yes sir
The impact makes it sound like you're working really hard when the boss is around.
Would the impact not last longer if doing that constantly? I don’t get why everyone uses them if they are so useless, not everyone is an idiot
No, the drill can do more and is much more efficient.
@@snakeplisken4119
He did drill, he drilled that sucker faster than you can kiss a duck.
An impact driver has actually parts that will wear out over time (even tho it takes super long)
Calm down men, that shit is smoking, for woorworking we always use drills to drill and drive bolts of any type, I would like to use impact driver to drive bolts aswell just for the light-weight those thing are.
Lighter to carry. One tool for one pouch
A drill can do thin screws like that by will twist you're wrist off when trying to use it on anything larger. Drills are also not meant for that so it will burn out faster.
@vihreelinja4743
Exactly, drill motor will burn itself out after 30 of them. Companies and private contractors don't have that kind of money to buy 3-4 drills a job site just because it's "faster".
@dirtysilver2841 ruclips.net/user/shortsuywX_E3zTxU?feature=share
@@dirtysilver2841 The drill in second gear wasn't even struggling driving that screw in. That's its intended use so it will last you for years doing that. What you said makes me wonder why most construction work here in europe is still being done using drills. That with our building codes being much more stringent and our houses not having paper walls...
It's about consistent torque. The impact is built for the low end grunt work. You will smoke out the drill over time.
I always reach for the impact just because I have zero worries twisting my wrist with it. They are also a little smaller for tight spots. A drill definitely works a little faster but I prefer using a impact
Exactly. Impacts are smaller, lighter and much easier on the wrist and forearm. That little bit of weight savings makes a BIG difference after a full day of driving screws.
I also find that the battery life is better with my impact drill than the regular drill in these situations.
I agree. Battery life and less cam out. The impact can also spin faster when there is minimal load. Also those fasteners are only threaded for the first two inches, not saying anything would be different in the end, just sayin.
@RevlisGT , I agree with you... but for the thread part... that's what most wood screws are like now... not supposed to be threaded thenwole way. If you are screwing 2 pieces or wood together.. then There should only be threads in the second piece of wood not both
It's all we ever used when installing storm doors and windows. Impact drivers weren't invented 😅
I feel that
And now most guys only use impacts to run tapcons and screws for windows and doors. Been doing windows now for 6 years and my boss been doing it for 40 years, if drills were so much better I’m sure he’d be using one instead of the impacts. But we don’t, impact is lighter, and just overall better. Swap bits faster, and can go into tighter spaces. I’ll take my impact that’s half the head size of the drill and weighs a lot less
“My wrist hurts”
I use the drill with the big battery and never have problems
That's a regional thing. In Europe the drill is used much more and impacts are uncommon.
I guess Norway is the exception. Impact drivers are very common here.
@@hakont.4960 so you are more likely to find an impact in a house than a drill?
I didn't mean businesses. Impacts are common in mechanic shops and so on.
Impact fanboys can’t even complain about you pushing down on this one. Straight win, and I really like that impact too. Drill is just faster
What can I say? When I'm right, I'm right.
maybe we get paid by the hour and have no need to save 2 seconds by using a drill
You've never had to screw several hundred fasteners in a day?
I did my deck at home. 5000 stainless screws. I'd still be screwing them if I used the impact driver. I got my big electric drill and buzzed them in quickly.
The speed made that thing SMOKE
Hope you’re doing well! I haven’t seen any new videos from you for a long time. I love your videos. There’s some of the best on the web.
I upload a new one everyday
Didn't know this was possible. Thanks man
My pleasure
I have had 3 of those Milwaukee drills, powerful, light and weight well balanced. All were paper weights within 12 months due to faulty triggers.
I keep trying to teach this to all the wise guys at the campground trying to impact their camper jacks up and down all freaking day. Drill is faster and much quieter
I work construction in germany andd we hardly even use impact drivers their just too loud and slow the only time we use one is if we got some giant ass screws where the regular drill doesnt have enough force
Jeah, in germany impact drivers are used for everything hex related. For screws we use drills with torx heads.
The inly thung i were jealous of these impact drivers was their small form factor but since i got my bosch flexiclick i got that covered aswell.
The giggle of an impact resets the bite on the fastener, persistent torque from a drill walks off the fastener.
An experienced craftsman would know that.
Glad I could help.
A real tradesman would know why the drill is the only tool you would use for this and why. Looks like you exposed yourself, Lana
My drill is stronger than my impact, there's some heavy lags that my drill will drive but my impact won't. However, I need to put a lot of pressure and torque into the drill, while the impact just needs to be held there, making it useful in awkward positions.
Pilot holes are your friend and how this would ordinarily be done
I work in animal removal, and I like the impact because it’s smaller and fits into tighter spaces, more convenient all around
If I was building decks or something drill is likely the way to go
I see your point as far as speed. For my wrists that have been bashed and smashed from decades of abuse, the impact doesn't throw my joints the same jolt that the drill does. It may not be the perfect solution for most, but it still is a superior tool for me.
K
I have snapped so many large fasters with an impact driver so I switched to a hammer drill and have had no problems so far
Because the torque on the wrist is much easier with the impact
Lol
Right tool for the right job!
That's why they make diffirent tools to suit each job!
K
Drills are fantastic for everything but the lock chuck on the impact for different bits so they don't fall out when changing direction is very good
Because the impact doesn't burn the toxic treated timber, making poisonous fumes.
Last I checked, this isn't how you would join pieces of lumber together and you don't go down and back up quickly either. No, you're letting your excuses expose your incompetence
I think because it’s more compact. If the drill would be designed to be much more compact and less bulky to carry around, it might be utilized more
Wow look at the smoke coming off of the drill used screw
Awe, she's making excuses to hide her ignorance
The drill versus impact crusade continues, courtesy of SoAlz.
He’s winning the hearts and minds of dozens of Americans.
53 Million people have watched me on RUclips. How many have seen you Miss? It's not my fault you're slow. I blame the generations of your family's inbreeding
@@ToolswithSoAlz I’ve seen quite a few, and enjoyed them all as well.
I don’t disagree with your assertion, just consistency of delivery. Something about a dead horse, yeah?
@ethanschmidt7781 nope
Both tools work. Both are great. One is better than the other in specific jobs. But at the end of the day, both work.
I feel like an impact would absolutely demolish the threads that the screw is creating
I stopped using the 1/4 inch impacts many uears ago. Since lithium and brushless. A regular drill has so much more torque.
The big drills will mess up your wrists if your not careful. 😅
That's why they're all coming with anti-kickback now
I think the point still stands but compare the same brand drill to the same brand impact
You girls worry about the brand because you don't know what you're talking about
Bro i really support you thanks for the video!! Your comment made me laugh! Have fun@@ToolswithSoAlz
I was genuinely impressed with the impact driver and then nearly shat myself when I saw the comparison
Only reason I use an impact driver is for very tight space, because the device generally is much shorter. For everything else woodworking, a drill.
Only application I use an impact driver always is for the wheelnuts on my car. I havr a specialised impact driver for that (not suitable for screwing/woodworking) and that works great. Cant see any normal drill do that and thats fine.
high torque applications mean that in a direct drive drill, the motor is seeing high current and will become really hot if you need to do the same thing hundreds of times.
You're letting your arrogance expose your ignorance
Its 100% the 1/4" drive ease of use/accessibility and the amazing number of bits available in my opinion.
You're wrong
I’ve been saying this for years. Great video.
Thank you
It’s a simple reason, the impact driver is louder.
Inpact or drill doesn't matter. They both did an efficient job. Whichever one's battery is charged I'm using LOL
K
I’ve been using a m12 Milwaukee drill for the last 7 years as a electrician while others use the impact and my m12 always outperforms the impacts on long or larger fasteners
Because the drill chuck will not hold the bit driver as well as a impact. Try being up on a roof and the bit driver falls out, rolls down the roof and onto the ground. After a couple of times, you'll be tossing the drill. Only time I use a drill is for bigger drill bits, paddle bits and hammer drilling etc.
Try not letting your excuses expose your incompetence again
I kinda like the impact driver, it doesn’t break your wrist either
His first drill was the flex impact until the new Milwaukee came out😅😅😅
Oh look, it's a little girl who only knows the name on the side of the tool
The reason I used it, back in the day, was because the drill would drain the battery twice as fast and we were out on the road where you couldn't charge up.
Remember, putting too much pressure on the drill itself is also slower. Notice how he isnt pushing hard...soooo many people dont know thats how you do it
You answered your own question when you said, "Why do you BOYS...." 😂