How to Repair a Tubeless Tire - Save Money and Permanently Repair Your Tubeless Tires
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- How to repair a tubeless tire. Most people throw away their tires after they've been flatted, especially with a pinch flat. Today I'm going to share my tips to getting more life out of your tires by permanently patching them. Have you ever permanently repaired a tubeless tire? What tips do you have? Post 'em below.
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Use a heavy duty GREEN Scotch-brite pad to clean the sealant from the interior of the tire. It works great especially on the bead area, these are available at Home Depot, Lowes and commercial restaurant supply stores such as Ace Mart. Apply Shoe Goo to the exterior damage of the pinch flat. If a tire is ripped use dental floss to sew the damaged rubber closed then patch as shown in Steve's video and add Shoe Goo to exterior damage. or use a tire boot and a tube until you can get a new tire.
Any experience of tyre screws? I ordered some bacon strips and it came with self tapping screws too
Be certain that the glue is dry before you apply the patch. It is a contact adhesive. Then use a stitching tool (a thin disc roller with a knurled edge) to roll out the patch on it's entire surface. Wrapping the tire around a form to "cure" shouldn't be necessary. I used to work in a motorcycle shop and patched street bike tires in a similar fashion. One must use a high quality, good name brand patch. Park tool also makes a repair boot (a very large, tough patch) for on the trail repair of a ripped sidewall. I carry a couple and a spare tube for repair of the worst case.............Thanks for sharing.
I was just wondering if doing this would work on my tire, and low-and-behold, this pops up in my feed. Sweet!
I really appreciate this video. Tires are so expensive, it is nice to see someone working to help others understand how to repair a tire! Keep it up! :-)
Looking at all the tires from $70 to $120 online, I wasn't sure which one to get. This option cost me nothing as I already had a patch kit. Thanks man!
Your best video. I hate the waste of used tires and hate buying new ones. Big proponent of new front, front to rear.
I sewed the hole shut along with using black Shoe Goo. After the Shoe Goo drys then I patch the inside. It lasts the life of the tire. It's amazing how long Shoe Goo lasts on the tred of the tire. It also helps with keeping dirt and rocks out of partial punctures.
Shoe Goo is some very good repair medium. I don't know if I would trust it on car tires, but on an mtb tire, why not? ...............
Nice video and Tip! I normally do this also. I don't trust in plugs for a long time specially in the side of the tire.
I did patch my Maxxis Rekon some months ago and I did exactly the same as you did !! Still holding today 🙂
This is a great tip and I do something similar, except I use larger patches designed for ATVs and stuff. They cover more of the tire and are cheaper but it's the same basic idea.
Landfills are full or tires ! Keep them as long as possible, thanks for showing us the right way to go.
Some shops are actually set up to recycle tires. Id love to see more of this.
Oh man, this is just what I needed! Had a couple of punctures two weeks ago that wouldn't seal, so I plugged them with some bacon strips. This works insofar as I can ride for an hour, but it's still leaking air and is not a permanent solution. I was ready to give up and throw the tire out (with plenty of thread left). Definitely trying this technique now. Awesome content, as usual!
Here in the Philippines we have lots of vulcanizing shops like in every streets. We can have that serviced for cheap and even way stronger seal.
Very cool. We have tire repair shops in the states too, who specialize in automobile tire repair, but I'm sure it's more prevalent in the Philippines.
What I like about this solution is that you don't rely on anyone else. You can do it yourself, at home, after hours.
I have never thought to take my tubeless tires to an auto tire repair shop. I may have to try that sometime to compare. I wonder if they'll use thicker rubber and cause a wheel balance issue...
I've done this repair many times without a single failure, so I currently don't feel the need for something stronger... But now you have me curious for a future video...
@@hardtailparty the most common here are motorcycle and bicycle tire vulcanizing shops. They cut out scrap bicycle or motorcycle tubes/tires and use it as patch. They only use the thin part or whatever suitable for the job. The price is so cheap like equivalent to a 1L bottle of Coke.
like you said, tires are expensive, here in the Philippines vulcanizing shops cost around 25 cents, still cheaper than those patch kits. done that on my maxxis ardent, what they did was they sort of infused a rubber to the inside of the tires by heating it and came out just like a part of the tire itself.
Super timely content again! I just pinch flatted my rear tire, just like that, on Friday. Took 7 plugs of varying sizes to get it to seal.
Love this and I love getting the most out of tires. I worked in gas stations in the late 70s/early 80s and this is how we repaired car tires.
On bikes, I have also tried shoe goo. it works ok but the patch does better. If I have the time I will put a tube in the tire I just patched and inflate so the tube presses the patch down and pre-forms it to its permanent state.
That's a great way to do it. I'm too lazy, but I should just do it
I was told with a patch one would need to use baby powder around it so the tube doesn't stick to it & make it weaker.
Hey!! Thanks for the patch tip….. have questioned whether this could work on a tubeless tire but hadn’t tried it yet. I have a 27.5x3” to try this on (:
This is a tubeless tire in the video
@@hardtailparty yes, understood thanks
Cool tip to make the shape round. Thx 👍
I use "radial patches" used for tubeless car tires instead of inner tube patches. It's not as elastic so it doesn't bulge out which is a problem if the puncture is long. Available at car part stores.
For punctures near the bead (super annoying), I cut the patch in half so that I can go right at the edge to the bead and cover a larger area.
That's exactly what I came here to say! Bike tube patches are too thin in my experience!
Going to try this. Let's ser if works. Thanks for info. 🙏 for you
What are your tips to repairing tubeless tires? If the gash is big enough, I'll sometimes see it shut then put a vulcanizing patch inside.
For really nasty gashes in the middle of the tread, use a radial patch, found in auto parts stores. Glue them on using the same method.
Yep, I’ve saved some very expensive, brand new tires with the sew up method. “Outdoor upholstery” polyester thread from the craft store is tough and waterproof/UV resistant. Bonus, you can get it in skinwall color too. Then I use a Rema brand patch on the inside because there is simply no substitute. Finally, a dab of Shoe-Goo on the outside to keep it clean & dry. Never had one fail yet.
I put a 3/8 inch cut in my 3.0 XR4’s right above the bead line. I tried a regular patch but it would push out and would not hold up. Researched around on the inner webs and tried something I found on there. I stitched up the slice with dental floss and air it up. It worked ok. Having a background in auto repair I put a radial patch on the inside to help. That was about 11 months ago and many miles. I am about 250 lbs and have ridden with it aired down to about 15 lbs when it is sloppy and the tire is my rear tire. I have some pics if anyone is interested.
you definitely qualify for a tire sponsor - man, where are they? thanks for the vid and instruction.
I always put the glue on the back of the patch too. I wonder now if I been doing it wrong all along. Never had a problem
Nice video! I had to do this with a 32c road tire after getting a sidewall cut on the first day of use!
The cut was ~10mm, so I used an automotive radial tire patch. The extra width and stiffness of the patch, combined with vulcanizing glue, really held the sidewall together without having it it bulging out of the side.
Great info Steve. Thanks for sharing and get well soon (if you indeed, have a cold)
Thanks, i've had this nasty sinus infection that's been hanging on. Hopefully it's gone soon
I'm no expert but my understanding is the vulcanising glue (when dried like Steve waited for) and patch are pretty much 100% set when you stick them together. So the process of wrapping the tire around the hammer was probably unnecessary and added no tangible benefit to the final outcome. I've patched road tires out on the road and ridden them at 80 psi straight away and its aways held fine.
Personally I love those old style cut it yourself patches instead of those pre-cut ones. You can just cut as big or small as your want and the specific shape you need. So with bigger cuts you can cut a bigger patch to make sure it has enough support.
The 3 flats I've had in the last few years have been on the 1st or 2nd ride on a new tire and I stuck a nail or rock through them. I just buy the car tire patches and use the small ones like the park kit has. No use replacing a tire that has so much life left.
I did replace the tire that had the a puncture on the sidewall. I only repair the tread or close to it for punctures.
I've had good luck repairing sidewall tears this way. I wonder if the auto patches are thicker and less likely to flex with the tire.
@@hardtailparty they are still plenty flexible. I bet the sidewalls might be okay but I won't patch a car tire on the sidewall so that's kind of my thought there. On a bike it's likely fine.
@@michiganstate149 I've got a few MTB tires that have been patched on the sidewall and they're still going strong hundreds of miles later. But yeah, I totally get it on a car!
Have the same rim bite that is very close to the bead. Took me 2 or 3 times to finally solve the air leak. Runs out of patches so I use old tube, cut into shape and use it as patch together with rubber glue and it works.
I use motorcycle tire patches. The tires on my Ripmo right now I have been using since last year and the front has 2 patches and the rear has 3. But the main difference in the motorcycle patch that I am using is it has a stem that you poke through the hole from the inside to the outside of the tire to make sure it is positioned correctly. Plus they are rated for up to 125 mph, so they are made to hold up.
Do they throw off the balance of the tire?
Hey Steve, did you use the M12 inflator to sit the tire? Is it compatible with both Shrader & Presta valves or you bought an adaptor? Thank you.
Letting it dry with some shape is a good tip!
Great vid on not being wasteful in a world where its accepted to just buy new stuff. Also Singlespeed Maniak Video coming soon?...
The Maniak is amazing as a singleapeed. I'll need to film something soon...
Nice to have matching front/rear tires as that can also extend life a few months... Sealant isn't free. But, I suppose the performance hit is negligible when eking out the most out of the tire(s).
White Flex Seal has worked for me a few times on standard pinch flats. Large bottle is about $15.
I just patched a nasty NM cactus sidewall puncture last week for the first time - My tire was only a month old and though “hell no” so far it’s holding fine - excellent patching tutorial
I do the same and then cover the entire patch and edges with shoe goo
❤it’s hit or miss with those holes next to the bead. I’ve used strips of thin road tubes instead of the regular patches but again it’s just a matter of multiple other factors if the patches stick in place and it holds air. I’ve had the patch edge come up but the sealant never sealed it. It’s just crazy and a bit frustrating, but I agree, tires are getting out of had expensive. I’m looking forward to trying American Classic’s new MTB tires
I've got a set of American classics in right now. I'll post up my thoughts on then once I have amore miles.
While superglue isn't good for fixing a tubeless tire outright because it isn't flexible enough, I've had luck using it to reinforce tire plugs after I get home. They help make what was a temporary solution a robust, permanent one as it stops the very slow leakage over a couple days that plugs will allow. They also hold them in place from ejecting themselves under pressure as they can sometimes do
I pinch flated my Ground Control just last week, but luckily not the extent you did Steve. 2 small plugs, one even right on the bead and sealed brilliantly, but very good content! Nice one Steve! And Spesh GC is my go to rear tyre, so good!
they're my favorite rear tires too
I did this a couple of times on some Gravel tires. On a Schwalbe G-One Allround and a Panaracer Gravelking SK. Both times it worked perfectly fine. However, I learned a couple of things from fixing tubes in our DIY repair shop which will translate to tires just as much I think. This is to make the process repeatable every time. So, roughing it up as you did is very important, otherwise the patch won't hold whatsoever. Secondly, you wanna put a thin, even layer of the vulcanization fluid on the spot, slightly bigger than the patch. Wait for exactly 5 minutes. Apply as much pressure to the patch as possible - usually you shouldn't have to wait 3 hrs to make this work cause it's all about applying pressure instead of letting it cure - after applying a good amount of pressure, the patch should stick even after seconds. If the plastic sheet comes off the patch without pulling it off alongside it, you did a good job and it won't come off again. Vulcanization fluid actually isn't a glue, btw, it'll dissolve the upper layer of the rubber and bond with the patch permanently.
Thank you for that excellent information!
I got a pinch flat on a brand new tire during a warm-up ride in Moab last year. Threw a couple of darts in, topped up my orange seal and rode the half enchilada the next day. I just replaced the tire last week. I kept meaning to patch it but never got to it. Wore out the tire before I had to deal with a patch.
There's a spelling mistake in the title, the first repair is missing the "I". Super useful vid by the way!
Thanks for catching that!
Good job brother! I’ve got the same problem on my Vittoria Barzo, I will try it today, thanks
Great tutorial Steve!!! Enjoyed it, well done!!!
Lezyne makes a kit now that permanently fixes these type of punctures. Kit is like $16.
I have a question if you don't mind. Can I put A 120 millimeter fork on a frame that is meant for A 140 millimeter fork safely ? thanks.
Yes
i had a sidewall tear after only 1 ride, i sew the tire and added shoe goo on the inside. the tire is still going strong .
Yes I patch my tires the same way except I put glue on top of the patch as well I don't think it matters but I wait for it to dry of course and then put my sealant in I've gotten over a year out of the tire it totally wore out patch held the entire time
I saved one with a tear on the sidewall the size of a dime. I stitched it back together with a sewing kit, put a patch over it, then covered the area in RTV silicone gasket maker. It’s been holding air for the last 6 months. 👌🏻
I only went through that much effort because it was brand new when I tore it.
Interesting, I never would have thought to use rtv. Thanks for the tip!
To patch the outside scuff it the same way but apply a layer of “shoo goo” it even comes in black
Shoo goo is vulcanizing fluid like this. I wonder which is better for the exterior
@@hardtailparty my experience is that when done properly you get a nice solid layer of rubber that wears well even on New England Glacial scrapped granite
Arizona just eats tires up. I often have sidenobs just ripped off after a few rides.
recently on my road/gravel bike i pinch flatted my ultradynamico cava with the paper-thin sidewalls... probably 4 or 5 holes... very sad day! they're so expensive.
i'm running it with an extralight 26" schwalbe tube now and enjoying not having beads of sealant on the outside... but this is good to know for when i inevitably flat on something more repairable
In the tube-patching days, a mechanic suggested not touching the spot to be patched after you scuff it with sandpaper and clean it with rubbing alcohol. He said that the oils from your fingers can mess up the vulcanizing fluid's ability to fuse the patch.
Smart man
I have a 10 year old DHF that was given to me because of sidewall damage, I was told that I'd have to use a tube ... I used contact cement on the tire and used Gorilla tape for the patch, I just retired the tire after 2 years of trouble free tubeless use
Thank you for another great video, Steve! I am really enjoying your content, keep up the good work!
Also, love the Maniac…maybe someday, what are your thoughts on Fezzari? Have you done any reviews of the bikes in their lineup?
So many great bike companies out there, difficult decisions ahead!
I've ridden fezzaris FS bikes but not their hardtail yet. If you'd like to pick my brain on hardtails, I do that over on Patreon.
excellent tutorial as usual - thank you.
Rema makes a "tubeless tire patch kit" with vulcanizing patches, I just went through this on a much smaller pinch than yours. Not sure if the glue (blue) or patches are really different from the standard tube patches. A pinch as big as yours I might've went adhesive boot from Park Tool but I've never used one long term
I believe the adhesive boot is just meant to prevent your tube from squeezing out the slice. I use a dollar bill or cliff bar wrapper as a boot in a pinch
@@hardtailparty I have a dollar bill in my “on the bike kit” (hot laps gripper) it been there for a decade used it once and returned it to the kit….
@@hardtailparty I thought that might be the case but I was left wondering if the sealant and the boot might make for a more permanent solution? I went with the Rema kit and so far it's holding.
Fantastic video, and great tips for tire repair! This fits nicely into the reduce, reuse, recycle philosophy. Anyone have tips on recycling bike tires? 🤠
I believe Vittoria recycles them. I have a bunch I need to get recycled.
I just watched a friend patch a large chunk in his tire with a wrapper from a granola bar. have you ever seen something like that?
I'm guessing that's more of a sleeve than a patch. It's to go between the tube and tire, to prevent the tube from squeezing out the slice and getting popped. IT's a good temporary solution to get back to the vehicle.
So in '15 years' what has changed in tubeless technology?
Rims, tires, and sealant. I don't have the bandwidth to go into it all, but if you research the history of tubeless tires, you'll see how far we've come.
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I tried patching my Rekon rear tire in exactly the same way after a tiny snake bite on the bead, just like yours, however the tire now has a massive wobble in it and I can't seem to get it straight anymore, even after popping it with some detergent a couple of times 😞
How thick was your patch? Some maxxis tires wobble even before they puncture. They can stretch when you really load them in corners. Is the bead seated properly all the way around?
@@hardtailparty yeah my other Maxxis rear tire also has a wobble in it.. Patch is about as big as the one you were using, but I must admit it was not the full story, the pinch flat was caused by a huge casing in which I dented my rim beyond repair, so this might have caused the wobble as well. The bead is seated properly for as far as I can see.
Back in the mid '80s when kids were kids and did A LOT of damage to BMX bikes jumping and bunny hopping over damn near everything we snake bit tubes on a regular account daily.
My parents were not about to fund my tube repair addiction, so got creative. I saved my lawn mowning money and purchased several tubes of vulcanizing rubber tube repair cement to have on hand. Then instead of buying rubber patches all the time, I just sacrificed a use bike tube. Using scissors, I cut various sized circles and ovals out of the tube. Cleaned up the smooth inner side of these tube patches with my sisters fingernail polish remover. This stuff was nasty smelling but did a killer job of prepping the patches by removing the white powder and leaving the surface slightly tacky.
From there, business as usual with the pinched tube repair.
For funzies, I even repaired a leaking Schrader valve stem base back then by just cutting the valve stem out making the smallest hole possible (probably about 7/16" to 1/2". Then just made a patch from an old tube by cutting out a big circle that included the valve stem in the center. Good clean prep, my vucanizing rubber cement and a donut shaped clamp, the thing held beautifully for months until the rest of the tube was so lumpy with repairs it had to finally be replaced.
Good times!
I started doing that when I had a pine branch go through a brand new $100+ fat bike tire. Actually used a car tire patch from an auto parts store.
Patched two Schwalbe Jumbo Jims the same way you did in the video, they are big, light, and fast, but made out if thin paper. Still holding air.
About switching to tubeless. I was into tubeless, but now - it depends on how often you ride the bike and where.
Good point. If your bike sits for long periods of time (months) between rides, tubes can be more convenient.
What do you consider a worn out tire? When the siping is no longer visible? Or the Lincoln penny head test like with car tires?
When the rubber is no longer soft
I actually just did this last week for a pinch flat as well. I used the Slime patch but the same process.
What watch are you wearing in the video ? Looks like garmin instinct to me...
I do the same thing!! But I snip both sides of the plug but leave a little plug piece in the hole and shoe goo it on outside and in then patch.. probably over kill but hate buying tires before I have too…lol
Oh 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼on your vid’s!!
we gotta ride again soon
@@hardtailparty totally agree !!! Always down for great people and great trails!
I’ve sewed up slashes prior to patching to save a tire before!
Same here. Dental floss with a sewing needle for leather. I have done it on sidewall and tread gashes and left the plugs in and sewed around them. Once you get the sealant in, it will seal up nicely.
I bought some Slime rubber cement hoping it would vulcanize rubber patches, since my tiny tube of vulcanizing cement had dried up. Sadly when I tried the slime cement, it was more like that rubber cement used for paper. No vulcanizing action. Big sad. Anyway, I'll have to get one of those little Park kits. Have you ever seen tubes of the self vulcanizing liquid for sale individually?
I was getting tired of people telling me you can't patch tubeless tires after having patched many of my own. I will send them this video now as further 'proof' it can be done.
A decent pair of tires easily a buck 60.
Pinched a brand new DHF sidewall with all the emojis on it. Super duper casing, EXO, OMG, WTF etc…used an auto patch repair kit the same way you used the bike one. One thing is that if you use something like a roller, large socket, etc…to roll the patch on tight you can actually distort the sidewall. I had my rim trued afterwards and the tire is the issue. Wobbles a bit, rim is dead nuts. No sweat, just turn off the OCD button and turn on the save money button. All good!
Stitching the sidewall before patching is also a good way to keep it together.
Indeed! Fortunately this one was small enough that I didn't need to stitch it.
I have a tire that I sliced the sidewall. What did you use for stitching yours?
@@loamrider3086 try dental floss and a curved leather needle.
@@loamrider3086 I use silk surgical sutures that have passed their expire date. I used get them from work. Only done it twice on vittoria and rene herse tires. I'm sure regular needle and tread would do the same job. You can use gorilla tape on the outside, patch the inside, then stitch on top of both. After you finish suturing, cut off the excess from the gorila tape. If the slice is too big, then you need a new tire and you shouldn't risk it. Especially in the front tire.
@@rafaeldegiacomoaraujo8778 Hey thanks for the suggestion. The slice isn't very long and it's the rear tire. The needle isnt an issue I was just didn't know what to use as a "thread". The only reason I want to repair is it's like brand new only have like 3 rides on it. I'll repair it and maybe just use it on one of my backup bikes. Appreciate your reply.
What is the presta chuck you use on your milwaukee inflator? I have this thing and the chuck it comes with sucks!
I have a link in my toolbox tour video
What valve stem attachment did you use on the air pump ? Thanks
See my toolbox tour video for links to all that stuff.
@@hardtailparty I got one and it works great!
@@hardtailparty Thanks
Hey! I am a big fan of your content. I am considering getting a canyon stoic 4. I was wondering if you have plans of reviewing it? not to many good reviews on it
I've had many plans to review it, but 18 months later and Canyon still can't get one to me.
I also found that If the cut is big, sew it with dental floss before putting the patch.
Yup, great tip
Is it still okay to use tires that develops cracks specially near the knobs?
It's up to you. You're more likely to tear a knob off or split the tire, but you can often get by for a bit. One thing people don't think about much is how much harder rubber gets when it's dry. When tires dry out, even if they have lots of tread left, grip is compromised so I usually avoid using dried out tires.
My #1 tip is to patch it then put a piece of silver tape on top of it and let it dry with the tire mounted with a inflated tube , so it's making pressure on it... Never's too mucho...
I only recently went back into mtb-ing again after 8 years away from it, and I tried to do some searching on the best sealant. There was a lot of praise for Stans Race sealant, and none of them were saying anything about how it actually was in use. I had to find out the hard way that the extra crystals they do state is in that mix, will make it sound like you got a bunch of gravel inside your tire. I had to unseat the tire again and throw it all out because I want no sound from inside there, it's just not gonna happen. The other thing is that it actually has clogged one of the tire valves even though I did follow their recommendation of pouring the sealant directly into the tire. I've tried blowing that valve up with my small pump that I carry with me while riding, and it is just barely managing to squeeze a teeny amount in there with lots of force used.
The whole thing has just been a bad experience, so I will now change to orange seal regular sealant and see if that does the trick.
I use orange seal endurance. It still clogs valves every year so I just swap valve cores every 6-12 months as needed. If bikes sit a long time, the sealant will dry up and create latex clumps inside. I find that orange seal endurance does this far less than other sealants.
@@hardtailparty My valve got clogged over night and my valves are even brand new as well as the tires are brand new. It happened the exact day after I changed to Stans Race sealant.
@@Perception_ dang, sorry to hear that. I wonder if storing the bike with the valves at 12:00 would help at all. Still, I've never had valves clog faster than 2 months.
@@hardtailparty l did actually do that as it did cross my mind. After a bit more investigation it seems that the Milkit valves I wanted to try has got lots of bad reviews as I now see, where some other people claims they actually clog up very easily, which is the exact opposite of what they should do.
Seems like I got burned on both sealant and valves at first try. Ah well, at least now I know what does not work. Will trash those valves tomorrow as I simply do not trust them at this point, as well as swopping the sealant.
@@hardtailparty store them at 6:30, dawg! Sealant falls with gravity and clears from the valve.
I’m wondering, what do you think about the Fillmore valves from Reserve wheels? I’m new to tubeless and I’ve got to say that presta valves are ok but not really fantastic, either for road and mtb. Cheers
I have the original Filmore valves and I've broken one. It wasn't as reliable as I would have liked, and still clogged. The new ones look slightly better
I just continue riding with plugs. Never had issues. Maybe I was lucky 😅
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I love cushcore as a company and they have a great product, but I don't like running them for everyday use on my bikes.