Part of me wanted this movie to be the series actual finale. The cast was at their peak. They were able to immediately react to a crisis and call their secret weapon Mereoleona. I really liked how smart, levelheaded and fast Noelle adapted to the situation. Even though being nerfed she made the most of everything she’s learned. The bulls perks were exclusive to her and her alone. The usage of Yuno was genuines. He finally accepted the help of others in battle than Asta. Two spirit hosts and two of the strongest captains.He even made a tactical retreat and distracted Asta from mourning. After an epic clash of bitterness vs stubbornness, all that Asta gave Conrad was peace. Not saying Lucius is trash but Conrad really got under everyone’s skin. Similar to Superman, his wife was killed and he was about to become a tyrant. To the cast Lucius appears like a monster, an accumulation of immense magic power. Not only did Conrad physically assault Noelle, Finral, and Nero. He also stole her spells and called out on how “unrefined” her magic was. Noelle has always been very vulnerable to this kind of harassment. In Lucius ideal world, Asta is nothing but a flaw that needs to perish. In Conrad’s ideal world, Asta is more welcome than anyone.
Good point and well put but I thought to clarify on that little superman remark. “Similar to Superman” ❌ “Similar to Injustice Superman” ✅ I’m only being a picky B#ch about it because he’s the only superman to go in the direction when them cards were delt, unlike Kingdom Come Superman who suffered but didn’t do any of that tyrannical sh#t. The injustice comic line did a real disservice to superman, where if he was put in that situation he would never go down the rout that injustice did.
if you did proper elementary levels of research ever since the anime went on hiatus you would've known this by now , its like anime is the one time yall ignore media lol
The worst thing is that volume 23.5 post movie connects with the manga and also makes it clear that there are 3 more months of training left, it also shows how Asta learned to use the katana and how he learned that movement he does with the katana towards liebe in his fight, It would also explain that Liebe could give him more power.
@@Br0ku Sorry if the translator has problems xD. The point is that, he tells you how Asta learned and improved his sword style and thanks to this the gap of how he learned to make all those sword movements mainly from the katana is filled in since Sukehiro showed them to him in their fight.
@@Br0kuthe movie is not canon what is your point of trying to debunk something that is stated to be faxed for example if the Dragon Ball superhero movie is not canon would I include it to the story short answer is no cuz if it was Canon then it would be included to the story now Dragon Ball Super hero movie is in the manga so let's completely defeat your argument like dude come on don't be a joke
My biggest problem with the movie was the fact it’s in the middle of s4 and not after. Especially with the final fight because not only do we get Liebe’s full design (something we don’t see until the end of s4) but Asta also clearly is using his devil arm. I just wished the movie took place after s4 because that was a huuuuuuuuuuge timeskip and having the movie take place then would’ve been great to fill in some gaps But other than that small error with devil arm and liebe, I loved the movie and have no problems with it being canon but wish it gets referenced more in the manga. Also would love to see one of the new arcs be adapted as a movie as more and more anime have been getting arcs adapted as movies
What made me think the movie isn’t canon is Asta having the post devil deal arm (which he got in the same fight where yami was taken) but yami is clearly in the movie
One of the main reasons some fans believe the BC movie is not canon to the story since whatever supposed to happen in the last saga already happened with the WK movie. Also, Conrad is a character that fans want Lucius to be but sadly the final villain isn't at all. Lucius doesn't have over 10 different spells, not parallel towards Asta and something tells me he can't bring people back from the dead like Conrad already done. Remember Morris says only Lucius could bring people back to life, yet Mereoleona did it before he did. I bet 100% Acier, Morgen and Heath didn't die this whole time and they were inside of Lucius time spheres being healed by time magic.
I understand many BC fans favored Lucius a lot, but it just feels odd that he hasn't bring more paladins before Asta shows up and the Lucius clones only uses time, gravity and soul magic. Also, we seen souls of elves and wizard kings possessing other bodies yet where are the devil souls at. Something feels sus about this.
A cool theory i saw someone bring up is an explanation for why Julius didn't use his aging spell to help fight against Conrad, and that's that Lucius wanted to get rid of the Imperial Sword and the former Wizard Kings, so he influenced Julius to not do it. Not really how Lucius messing with Julius works, iirc, but still, it's a cool theory!
Lucius is actually quite likely to have done that. His influence is why William and Yami were made magic knights and why Julius was so interested. Lucius has had an influence over Julius the entire series, so it’s not hard to believe he wanted one more potential obstacle out of his way. You saw how he tried to get rid of Asta and Yuno because they’re not supposed to be involved in this story. They’re irregularities.
on the Nacht point, we see in the manga that he's kept an eye on the Bulls via Shadow's Second Sight. Not hard to use that for why he cane back to Clover to help
At the beginning of the movie Kaiser is shown as the purple orca's captain before Julius is wizard king so either I missed something, or this is an inconsistency. 🤔
I feel like some of the points you bring up aren't definitive enough to say that the movie is canon. Though i think everyone is valid in thinking the movie is or isn't canon but until Tabata himself says it's canon or it's referenced in the manga i'm gonna take it as a One Piece Strong World/Film Red situation where the characters/concepts are canon but the events aren't canon
@@Jojo10788 Tabata literally had them change the setting of the film because they wanted the movie to be based in the manga. They don’t use the word “canon” in Japan. Its not 100% proof but it’s beyond reasonable doubt
@@Br0ku i could have missed it but i don't remember anything saying the movie was based in the manga in your video. even if they don't have a set word for it there's got to be some sort of distinction between events that happen in a story and ones that don't, right? and it's not just that it isn't 100% proof, i feel like some of the arguments are a bit shaky like 6:05 - i feel like the land of the sun being shown in the manga first is more impactful than it being shown in a movie first. 7:44 - i think saying the movie is canon because princia appears in the anime is like saying strong world is canon because shiki is mentioned in the manga. 8:36 / 11:10 - i don't think a form of magic and a couple side characters are specific enough to say that it's canon 12:43 - if conrad did come back as a paladin it would only prove that he himself (and in turn mostlikely princia, jester, and edward) was canon, it wouldn't fully prove the movie is canon unless when someone sees him they think back to the events of the movie 13:05 - true it doesn't need to be in the manga to be canon but being referenced in the manga is undeniable proof that it's canon sorry for the long comment
@@Jojo10788 1. That wasn’t the reason for changing it so it doesn’t matter. 2. Don’t know the reference. 3. It’s evidence. 4. That logically doesn’t make sense to assume only the character is canon and not the movie. You are basically taking each point and appealing to possibility. It’s not just one points it’s the combination that makes it canon.
@@Br0ku 1. it kinda does matter cause you said "if the movie was not canon then why not just do the movie in the land of the sun". 2. (minor spoilers) tldr in one piece shiki is a character that was name dropped at one point in the manga then almost a year later he was featured in a movie, so shiki is a canon character but the movie events aren't. 3. right, evidence that i don't think is strong enough. 4. i was just taking my knowledge of other anime movies so i came to the same conclusion with black clover, i don't see how it's illogical. i'm addressing them as points because that's how they are presented in the video and it's easier to address them one by one. what do you mean i'm appealing to possibility?
Hey Broku! Great video! Quick questions Do you think Curse magic can effect Devils in Black Clover, if there was another character was born with no specific Magic Attribute like Ladros from the Diamond Kingdom would they still be able to get a Grimoire and could they still learn other magics like Curse Magic, Trap magic, Mana Method etc...?
I literally wouldn’t mind Asta pulling out the sword or it have been taken but due to Lucius someone gets the idea to give it to Asta and it becomes imbued in Anti Magic and allows Asta to use a nerfed version of its ability
Haven’t watched it in a while but doubt it’s that important like it’s does get adapted from a light novel so it is canon but if you were to watch just the anime only and whenever the next season releases (man that’s gonna take forever cuz of the release schedule 😢) you aren’t missing much if you didn’t watch it Small rant man wish it was it was it’s own season it has a good concept 😢
These are the same people who would tell you.Dragon ball z battle of gods and DBZ resurrection of f is cannon because Akira Toriyama Supervise the movies. If the movies can fit in the main continuity without there being any problems like the inu-yasha movies I don't see the problem. But on another note, are you gonna do reviews for the black clover Manga about yami when he was young
Why do you think William wasn't asked to be wizard King alongside mereo,fuego and nozel even thought he held the title of closest to wizard King and was regarded as the most likely candidate pre time skips?
I had already believed that it was canon even without all that evidence when I had came to the conclusion on my own that it took place not too long before the end if the timeskip.
I wonder how much the story would have changed if the Imperial Sword hadn't been destroyed at the end of the film as it is probably one of the most powerful weapons in the series
It would prove that asta clothing as bonus in the movie to have that par of clothing in the canon series after the timeskip making it know that his clothing in the move shows the movie cannon and is both like the anime and mange after the 6 month training arc 3:43
tbh i think it is canon but idk if im right near to the end of black clover asta lost is arm and he used it as a sacrifice to gain more power but in the movie he still has both arms ,
If you skip the movie will it feel like you skipped chapters in the manga? Can this movie make any significant changes to the characters if it was canon when the movie was written years after the manga chapters were written? No. Does it matter if the movie is canon or not? No, because it can’t introduce characters that are relevant to the plot or make any meaningful change to any character.
@@Br0ku Fenzell is my least liked Black Clover character, because when reading the manga, it was confusing (in my opinion) to insert a character Asta knew as a mentor that I had no clue existed. The side novels and movies are really cool for fans (like me, I went back and read the first novel, it was solid) and the subtle nods like the anime showing the character from the movie is really cool. But you can’t expect every manga reader to know these things exist. I’ve learned as I grew older you can make literally anything you want canon and extend/add to any story you want. When re-reading black clover I’m not going to stop reading the manga after the elf saga watch a movie then continue to read the manga. I’m going to read chapter 1 to the end. Characters like fenzell should stay in the side projects, because it confuses the readers. I liked the movie a lot, but I wouldn’t want a fan who doesn’t have a Netflix subscription to be expected to know who Conrad is to understand what’s going on when they read every chapter of the manga. I’m not saying the movie isn’t canon, I can write a thrilling tale in the same time skip how Asta saved the princess of Hyrule and make that canon too.
Finally got around to watching this. My stance has always been "canon until proven otherwise" and honestly, after seeing this video, I'm ready to die on this hill. The movie is canon. Also, sometimes I like to discuss some other animes' canon on like discord servers and whatnot. I think I'm going to save some arguments from this video for when I need them.
We might get another movie for the 15 month time skip This movie may show how asta and yuno surpassed lucifero and how asta was able to do partial devil union
Wasnt asta using the form he got after yami got taken by the triad? wouldnt that take away its canonicity? since the moviue his giving him that form AND has Yami still not taken by the triad yet? I'm not super tapped w BC so i could be mistaking the form but idk
@@uhhshae devil arm Asta is in the movie. Why does that take away from its canonicity ? I explained why it doesn’t in the video. Just let me know and I can try and explain further
@@Br0ku I’m typing as I’m watching (which is dumb because I can get my answers in the video if I just wait lol) But at 3:28 you said if we were to take the Netflix articles word then we should expect to see devil arm asta, and we did. So I was thinking since devil arm asta happened after/when Yami was taken, and he’s not taken in the movie, that it wasn’t cannon. But I’m guessing I’m missing or not understanding something about that part of the vid But like I said I’ve only watched/read BC once so I could just have my timelines and stuff wrong and be calling the wrong form Devil arm
I think it’s not cannon because it’s shows everyone in their ts outfits and they didn’t say anything about the devils plus asta didn’t have yami’s katana and there was no sign that asta and his devil were cool now
14:40 is so stupid imo u literally have to be trolling here, he shouldn’t have even been able to communicate w liebe this is like shit happened in the power arc w naruto, this shit ain’t canon
@@jsk1429 he doesn’t communicate with Liebe in the movie lmao. Even if he did, this already happened in the manga well before the movie. If you’re gonna call shit, stupid at least know what you’re talking about.
@@Br0kuthe only time he did that before was the witch arc but he we didnt even know what liebe looked like, also why would he just gain the demon arm from a later arc that he’s never had before then it dissapear a?
@@jsk1429 okay? He doesn’t even see Liebe in the movie. Liebe just gives him power. It’s literally explained in the movie. Liebe said he would take the payment in full later.
I appreciate your analysis and your love for Black Clover. But everyone knows that most anime movies are not canon to the story. If it doesn’t appear in the manga in some way, it’s only inspiration from the story. This how it has been with everything else until the author says otherwise. Still love your content though.
@mattschultzfinkler ok? Dosent mean it's not cannon there is nothing in the manga that contradicts that the movie is cannon so your gonna have to come up with something better than that
Part of me wanted this movie to be the series actual finale. The cast was at their peak. They were able to immediately react to a crisis and call their secret weapon Mereoleona.
I really liked how smart, levelheaded and fast Noelle adapted to the situation. Even though being nerfed she made the most of everything she’s learned. The bulls perks were exclusive to her and her alone.
The usage of Yuno was genuines. He finally accepted the help of others in battle than Asta. Two spirit hosts and two of the strongest captains.He even made a tactical retreat and distracted Asta from mourning.
After an epic clash of bitterness vs stubbornness, all that Asta gave Conrad was peace.
Not saying Lucius is trash but Conrad really got under everyone’s skin.
Similar to Superman, his wife was killed and he was about to become a tyrant.
To the cast Lucius appears like a monster, an accumulation of immense magic power.
Not only did Conrad physically assault Noelle, Finral, and Nero. He also stole her spells and called out on how “unrefined” her magic was. Noelle has always been very vulnerable to this kind of harassment.
In Lucius ideal world, Asta is nothing but a flaw that needs to perish.
In Conrad’s ideal world, Asta is more welcome than anyone.
Good point and well put but I thought to clarify on that little superman remark.
“Similar to Superman” ❌
“Similar to Injustice Superman” ✅
I’m only being a picky B#ch about it because he’s the only superman to go in the direction when them cards were delt, unlike Kingdom Come Superman who suffered but didn’t do any of that tyrannical sh#t.
The injustice comic line did a real disservice to superman, where if he was put in that situation he would never go down the rout that injustice did.
that woulda been too damn fast, let Tabata take is time
@@mockouchiha7579 and the current arc isn’t damn fast?
Black clover always had a fast pacing
Yuki Tabata literally wrote the story for sword of the wizard king, how would it not be canon 😭
well to be fair for such a major event it hasnt been talked about in the manga after it had taken place.
@@brak2300 bro did NOT watch the video.,
This movie had great villains! Something that usually not a thing in the first anime movies.
Also broku what are your thoughts on bnha ending in 5 chapters?
15:54 even of they weren't extinct, squads have been shown to change names like when rill took over julius's squad
The black clover movie is real!!!
It came out on Netflix
if you did proper elementary levels of research ever since the anime went on hiatus you would've known this by now , its like anime is the one time yall ignore media lol
The worst thing is that volume 23.5 post movie connects with the manga and also makes it clear that there are 3 more months of training left, it also shows how Asta learned to use the katana and how he learned that movement he does with the katana towards liebe in his fight, It would also explain that Liebe could give him more power.
@@Azaerus I don’t think it makes it so it’s 3 months before spade, I address that in video
@@Br0kuyes
@@Br0ku Sorry if the translator has problems xD.
The point is that, he tells you how Asta learned and improved his sword style and thanks to this the gap of how he learned to make all those sword movements mainly from the katana is filled in since Sukehiro showed them to him in their fight.
@@Azaerus I’m not disputing that💪🏻
@@Br0ku💪 10:28 ok.
Waiting for this video since last week, thanks for being the one to clear this misunderstanding
I hope Black clover gets a monthly schedule like AoT had. That way your channel would do better
You're right bro, I hope that tabata sensei health gets better so he can go montly I really don't want black clover to end on quartly schedule
@@sofyanjamal4980 Black clover is like having expensive dinner. You know, something you have very rarely
@Grayson-Winchester I really hope the manga switch to monthly release schedule, I can't take this any longer
@@Grayson-Winchester I would love monthly as long as it worked for Tabata.
And thanks for the Super Thanks!
@@Br0kuthe movie is not canon what is your point of trying to debunk something that is stated to be faxed for example if the Dragon Ball superhero movie is not canon would I include it to the story short answer is no cuz if it was Canon then it would be included to the story now Dragon Ball Super hero movie is in the manga so let's completely defeat your argument like dude come on don't be a joke
My biggest problem with the movie was the fact it’s in the middle of s4 and not after. Especially with the final fight because not only do we get Liebe’s full design (something we don’t see until the end of s4) but Asta also clearly is using his devil arm. I just wished the movie took place after s4 because that was a huuuuuuuuuuge timeskip and having the movie take place then would’ve been great to fill in some gaps
But other than that small error with devil arm and liebe, I loved the movie and have no problems with it being canon but wish it gets referenced more in the manga. Also would love to see one of the new arcs be adapted as a movie as more and more anime have been getting arcs adapted as movies
@@VectorPrime-wx3lx there’s no error. The movie already takes place after the timeskip (barring a few days). I get what you mean tho.
ITS CANNON CAUSE ITS GOATED
L logic w take
Nice video broku keep up the good content, man.
@@MiguelTheAnomaly85 thanks 🙏
What made me think the movie isn’t canon is Asta having the post devil deal arm (which he got in the same fight where yami was taken) but yami is clearly in the movie
That arm is a mark of a temporary pact, it is not even all the power, Liebe did it because Asta was in danger of dying.
Babe wake up broku posted a new video
Finally 😁. Awesome video. I'm saying this without completing the video
One of the main reasons some fans believe the BC movie is not canon to the story since whatever supposed to happen in the last saga already happened with the WK movie. Also, Conrad is a character that fans want Lucius to be but sadly the final villain isn't at all. Lucius doesn't have over 10 different spells, not parallel towards Asta and something tells me he can't bring people back from the dead like Conrad already done. Remember Morris says only Lucius could bring people back to life, yet Mereoleona did it before he did. I bet 100% Acier, Morgen and Heath didn't die this whole time and they were inside of Lucius time spheres being healed by time magic.
I understand many BC fans favored Lucius a lot, but it just feels odd that he hasn't bring more paladins before Asta shows up and the Lucius clones only uses time, gravity and soul magic. Also, we seen souls of elves and wizard kings possessing other bodies yet where are the devil souls at. Something feels sus about this.
A cool theory i saw someone bring up is an explanation for why Julius didn't use his aging spell to help fight against Conrad, and that's that Lucius wanted to get rid of the Imperial Sword and the former Wizard Kings, so he influenced Julius to not do it.
Not really how Lucius messing with Julius works, iirc, but still, it's a cool theory!
Lucius is actually quite likely to have done that. His influence is why William and Yami were made magic knights and why Julius was so interested.
Lucius has had an influence over Julius the entire series, so it’s not hard to believe he wanted one more potential obstacle out of his way. You saw how he tried to get rid of Asta and Yuno because they’re not supposed to be involved in this story. They’re irregularities.
5:05 Can you tell me where I can see this full video? From the Tabata interview, what did you use as an example.
on the Nacht point, we see in the manga that he's kept an eye on the Bulls via Shadow's Second Sight. Not hard to use that for why he cane back to Clover to help
then why does merileona get a form in this movie and have to unlock it in the manga AGAIN?????
In the manga he already had his form and his name was said, but it was never shown how he got it.
Common Broku W, we love to see it. Also, where dod you find the interview with the director ooi? I gotta peep that myself.
editing looking clean
@@nathan38938 thanks!
Broku question, since saint stage has the ability to purify negative mana can saint stage Noelle m bypass infinity?
Just found out about the Movie last night!
At the beginning of the movie Kaiser is shown as the purple orca's captain before Julius is wizard king so either I missed something, or this is an inconsistency. 🤔
Nevermind I'm deaf💀 but it is mostly captains in that scene so it is definitely understandable or maybe Gueldre is there and we can't see him.
I feel like some of the points you bring up aren't definitive enough to say that the movie is canon. Though i think everyone is valid in thinking the movie is or isn't canon but until Tabata himself says it's canon or it's referenced in the manga i'm gonna take it as a One Piece Strong World/Film Red situation where the characters/concepts are canon but the events aren't canon
@@Jojo10788 Tabata literally had them change the setting of the film because they wanted the movie to be based in the manga. They don’t use the word “canon” in Japan. Its not 100% proof but it’s beyond reasonable doubt
@@Br0ku i could have missed it but i don't remember anything saying the movie was based in the manga in your video. even if they don't have a set word for it there's got to be some sort of distinction between events that happen in a story and ones that don't, right?
and it's not just that it isn't 100% proof, i feel like some of the arguments are a bit shaky like
6:05 - i feel like the land of the sun being shown in the manga first is more impactful than it being shown in a movie first.
7:44 - i think saying the movie is canon because princia appears in the anime is like saying strong world is canon because shiki is mentioned in the manga.
8:36 / 11:10 - i don't think a form of magic and a couple side characters are specific enough to say that it's canon
12:43 - if conrad did come back as a paladin it would only prove that he himself (and in turn mostlikely princia, jester, and edward) was canon, it wouldn't fully prove the movie is canon unless when someone sees him they think back to the events of the movie
13:05 - true it doesn't need to be in the manga to be canon but being referenced in the manga is undeniable proof that it's canon
sorry for the long comment
@@Jojo10788 1. That wasn’t the reason for changing it so it doesn’t matter.
2. Don’t know the reference.
3. It’s evidence.
4. That logically doesn’t make sense to assume only the character is canon and not the movie.
You are basically taking each point and appealing to possibility. It’s not just one points it’s the combination that makes it canon.
@@Br0ku
1. it kinda does matter cause you said "if the movie was not canon then why not just do the movie in the land of the sun".
2. (minor spoilers) tldr in one piece shiki is a character that was name dropped at one point in the manga then almost a year later he was featured in a movie, so shiki is a canon character but the movie events aren't.
3. right, evidence that i don't think is strong enough.
4. i was just taking my knowledge of other anime movies so i came to the same conclusion with black clover, i don't see how it's illogical.
i'm addressing them as points because that's how they are presented in the video and it's easier to address them one by one. what do you mean i'm appealing to possibility?
Hey Broku! Great video! Quick questions Do you think Curse magic can effect Devils in Black Clover, if there was another character was born with no specific Magic Attribute like Ladros from the Diamond Kingdom would they still be able to get a Grimoire and could they still learn other magics like Curse Magic, Trap magic, Mana Method etc...?
I literally wouldn’t mind Asta pulling out the sword or it have been taken but due to Lucius someone gets the idea to give it to Asta and it becomes imbued in Anti Magic and allows Asta to use a nerfed version of its ability
Haven’t watched it in a while but doubt it’s that important like it’s does get adapted from a light novel so it is canon but if you were to watch just the anime only and whenever the next season releases (man that’s gonna take forever cuz of the release schedule 😢) you aren’t missing much if you didn’t watch it
Small rant man wish it was it was it’s own season it has a good concept 😢
The only inconsistency from this movie I can think about is Yami calling Asta by Asta at the end when he brought over Julius but thats about it
These are the same people who would tell you.Dragon ball z battle of gods and DBZ resurrection of f is cannon because Akira Toriyama Supervise the movies.
If the movies can fit in the main continuity without there being any problems like the inu-yasha movies I don't see the problem.
But on another note, are you gonna do reviews for the black clover Manga about yami when he was young
This situation is similar to the First bleach movie's canon debate (even tho its referenced in the manga)
Why do you think William wasn't asked to be wizard King alongside mereo,fuego and nozel even thought he held the title of closest to wizard King and was regarded as the most likely candidate pre time skips?
Been here since like 5k subs!
I had already believed that it was canon even without all that evidence when I had came to the conclusion on my own that it took place not too long before the end if the timeskip.
Hey would you make a video on dark magic exactly.Cause it's way too confusing.And please state ways it could possibly be used, Yami just didn't use.
I wonder how much the story would have changed if the Imperial Sword hadn't been destroyed at the end of the film as it is probably one of the most powerful weapons in the series
Absolutely loved this video! Love Black Clover!! & Love Sword of the Wizard King!!! 💯✨🔥
It would prove that asta clothing as bonus in the movie to have that par of clothing in the canon series after the timeskip making it know that his clothing in the move shows the movie cannon and is both like the anime and mange after the 6 month training arc 3:43
tbh i think it is canon but idk if im right near to the end of black clover asta lost is arm and he used it as a sacrifice to gain more power but in the movie he still has both arms ,
@@tambamillimouno1834 Asta loses his arm in 258. The movie takes place before 229.
I definitely consider it canon. I mean it doesn't even hurt the story.
I know black clover will end but part me wants it to continue on….
Broku lets make black bulls members vs gojo (with their anti magic forms)
My only problem with the movie is the pipe scene when Asta is fighting Conrad...it doesn't look like they are faster than light (as it should be).
Well , to be honest with you , depicting high speeds in anime adaptations never seem to be consistent
In most anime character that are light speed are shown like they move at hypersonic speed so it's not superising
New broku vid!! Let's go!!
If you skip the movie will it feel like you skipped chapters in the manga? Can this movie make any significant changes to the characters if it was canon when the movie was written years after the manga chapters were written? No. Does it matter if the movie is canon or not? No, because it can’t introduce characters that are relevant to the plot or make any meaningful change to any character.
@@dominicmallano5633 it adds to the characters and adds to the story. Just because it can be skipped doesn’t mean anything.
@@Br0ku Fenzell is my least liked Black Clover character, because when reading the manga, it was confusing (in my opinion) to insert a character Asta knew as a mentor that I had no clue existed. The side novels and movies are really cool for fans (like me, I went back and read the first novel, it was solid) and the subtle nods like the anime showing the character from the movie is really cool. But you can’t expect every manga reader to know these things exist. I’ve learned as I grew older you can make literally anything you want canon and extend/add to any story you want. When re-reading black clover I’m not going to stop reading the manga after the elf saga watch a movie then continue to read the manga. I’m going to read chapter 1 to the end. Characters like fenzell should stay in the side projects, because it confuses the readers. I liked the movie a lot, but I wouldn’t want a fan who doesn’t have a Netflix subscription to be expected to know who Conrad is to understand what’s going on when they read every chapter of the manga. I’m not saying the movie isn’t canon, I can write a thrilling tale in the same time skip how Asta saved the princess of Hyrule and make that canon too.
To be fair he was also drugged kidnapped and almost executed by citizens after some of these charges
Finally got around to watching this. My stance has always been "canon until proven otherwise" and honestly, after seeing this video, I'm ready to die on this hill. The movie is canon.
Also, sometimes I like to discuss some other animes' canon on like discord servers and whatnot. I think I'm going to save some arguments from this video for when I need them.
@@mega14343 💪🏻💪🏻 I pretty much agree with the sentiment. Thanks for watching
can you make a current kawaki vs yuno versus?
It doesn't really matter if its cannon or not cause manga asta is wayyyyyy stronger than movie asta
Imagine manga Asta with the Imperial Sword, that would be _wild_
Its still kinda hard to believe bc of nacht but the way you but the way you put it it kinda make sense but still kinda hard to
We might get another movie for the 15 month time skip
This movie may show how asta and yuno surpassed lucifero and how asta was able to do partial devil union
Great video! The movie was always canon.
Even if people thought it wasn't canon I'd still consider it the true end to the series. Asta gets done so dirty after the events of this movie.
Ontop of that u literally have to finish ep170 before watching the movie or u get spoiled about lieges identity
Yes, it is canon, it takes place between the Joint Training Arc, and the Spade Kingdom Arc, during the six month time skip
Soo basically a yap session without an actual statement to prove it’s canon like every other manga and anime
Have you actually watched the full video
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@@saleeksmith4765yeh he literally didn’t show any actual statement that says it’s canon if he did tell me the 0:00
@@NICO.DCRUZE she gave you other evidence you don't need a direct state so it's obvious you don't know what you're talking about
@@NICO.DCRUZE he literally mentioned the Canon novels which literally tell you which part of the story it takes place in
16:51??? Are we actually serious only the captains
would’ve been present here ur coping so badly
When should I watch this movie after finishing the current series or at a certain point during the series?
@@YoItsAnton it takes place between episode 157 and 158 of the anime. It’s best to watch it there.
But how I read the manga acording to black clover 158asta was fighting in spade kingdom@@Br0ku
@@armyofmehedi movie takes place between chapter 228 and 229 of the manga
@@Br0ku ok im gonna chek now
@@Br0ku in chapter 228 asta and magic nights are training themselves in heart kingdom I can't understand
I say it was pretty awesome.
Magic knight captains vs espada ???
I just wanted to know when to watch it in the anime xD
Before the spade arc
Wasnt asta using the form he got after yami got taken by the triad? wouldnt that take away its canonicity? since the moviue his giving him that form AND has Yami still not taken by the triad yet? I'm not super tapped w BC so i could be mistaking the form but idk
@@uhhshae I explained why this doesn’t take from its canonicity in the video.
ahhh so devil arm asta isn't in the movie? thast what i was talking about
@@uhhshae devil arm Asta is in the movie. Why does that take away from its canonicity ? I explained why it doesn’t in the video. Just let me know and I can try and explain further
@@Br0ku I’m typing as I’m watching (which is dumb because I can get my answers in the video if I just wait lol)
But at 3:28 you said if we were to take the Netflix articles word then we should expect to see devil arm asta, and we did. So I was thinking since devil arm asta happened after/when Yami was taken, and he’s not taken in the movie, that it wasn’t cannon. But I’m guessing I’m missing or not understanding something about that part of the vid
But like I said I’ve only watched/read BC once so I could just have my timelines and stuff wrong and be calling the wrong form Devil arm
@@uhhshae I explained later Devil Arm Asta as in he has a permanent devil arm. Since he loses the devil arm in the movie it doesn’t break canon.
Yes the movie is canon
I think it’s not cannon because it’s shows everyone in their ts outfits and they didn’t say anything about the devils plus asta didn’t have yami’s katana and there was no sign that asta and his devil were cool now
Asta didn’t have the katana and wasn’t cool with the devil until chapters 259 and 269. The movie takes place before 229
@@Br0ku so why in the movie it seems like asta has mastered flying but at the start of pts asta looks like he’s still trying to control flying
@@Truly.moe486 because at the start of the timeskip he’s flying in a very strong grand magic region.
Hey @Broku
I just saw that Great Igneel posted a redebunk to your Asta vs Meliodas video if you want to go over it in a stream
@@jaredhigham869 I still haven’t watched it but I probably will when I get back from vacation
@@Br0ku Oh yeah, i just thought you would want to know. Hope your wrists get feeling better, take it easy.
@@jaredhigham869 thank you 💪🏻
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I think it is canon cause maybe the movie took place during the time skip
We’re episodes 157-158 after the 6 month timeskip 3:43
Episode 157 before
Episode 158 after
@@Br0ku oh I see so it like 3 months after 157 but 3 months before 158 I meant it’s within the the 6 month timeskip half way through it
@@dragonballmaster5324 the movies is days before spade arc
It canon to me now I'll go finish it lol
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14:40 is so stupid imo u literally have to be trolling here, he shouldn’t have even been able to communicate w liebe this is like shit happened in the power arc w naruto, this shit ain’t canon
@@jsk1429 he doesn’t communicate with Liebe in the movie lmao. Even if he did, this already happened in the manga well before the movie. If you’re gonna call shit, stupid at least know what you’re talking about.
@@Br0kuthe only time he did that before was the witch arc but he we didnt even know what liebe looked like, also why would he just gain the demon arm from a later arc that he’s never had before then it dissapear a?
@@jsk1429 okay? He doesn’t even see Liebe in the movie. Liebe just gives him power.
It’s literally explained in the movie. Liebe said he would take the payment in full later.
I appreciate your analysis and your love for Black Clover. But everyone knows that most anime movies are not canon to the story. If it doesn’t appear in the manga in some way, it’s only inspiration from the story. This how it has been with everything else until the author says otherwise. Still love your content though.
@@HiTechHead and the author said otherwise. Thanks 🙏
It’s not canon. Y’all need to get over it already. Just because you like it doesn’t mean it’s canon. Grow up already.
Ok then why is it not cannon?
@@goofy25x 0 argument in what you say and the worst thing is that the official Japanese source simply slaps you in the face of what you say.
@@goofy25x not in manga and not referenced in manga. Get over it
@mattschultzfinkler ok? Dosent mean it's not cannon there is nothing in the manga that contradicts that the movie is cannon so your gonna have to come up with something better than that
@@Azaerus I had a stroke reading this