I think Lumirere‘s power is somewhat overshadowed because I read Black Clover was originally supposed to end after the elf reincarnation arc. Lumiere is so powerful beyond comprehension that he should be considered the peak of humankind like Hashirama Senju. His legendary feat of slaying a literal monster with his royal magic was turned into a fairy tale. This legend even made it to the poorest regions of the country. The golden dawn wore his attire to honor Lumiere. No other wizard king is that famous throughout history. Princia and Jester fought off the diamond kingdom. Chapter 1 started with Julius being celebrated for leading magic knights and captains against invaders. Rouge wizard kings like Conrad and Edward were kept a secret so the public would never doubt the duty and power inline with the title. Julius didn’t want people to know that he shrunk so that no outside force would assault clover in a weakened state.
@@Br0ku LETS FUCKING GOOOOO. I LOVE YOUR BLACK CLOVER VIDS! It even inspires me to write, a bit since Black clover is also a massive inspiration for my high fantasy books.
Where did you get the black clover planet sized feat? not nitpicking btw I've been watching since the ranking black bulls video years ago. I'm genuinely curious bc this is the first time I've heard a different reference for the planet size. 10/10 video broku enjoyed as always!
well it says the fire spirit's range is 1,000 Ri. But it needed an amp to take out the Witch's Forest, which should imply the Witch's Forest is that big. Which makes Clover massive, and then we see Clover on the globe, pixel scaling the globes diameter from there is where you can get it to large planetary.
MAN YOURE SO UNDERRATED, BLACK CLOVER IS UNDERRATED IN POWERSCALING!!! But people are just biased bcz it’s a new gen power sytem anime, that’s why they don’t want to admit that asta scales way higher than planetary, or that he can beat anyone in the big 3, like how mush made asta vs garou giving garou everything except for hax and weapons, then there’s asta vs toshiro, giving everything to toshiro, man bleach fans are extremely biased ngl, they think every soul reaper scales to universal just bcz the top tiers are
Great video! Speaking of First Wizard King I always wonder how many Four Leaf grimoire user have existed like Were their more Males than Females users, What were the magic of each user, Were most of the Four Leaf users Magic one of the Four Main Element magic (Fire, Wind, Water and Earth), How many of them were Royals, Did they gain or had similar spells like Full Armor spell like Noelle's Valkyrie Dress, Did any of them had one of the Element Spirits, Were any of them Mana Zone users too etc...?
Way too underrated for youtube bro should be at 1m subs by now.. i like BC but i think people would prefer other anime maybe JJK or stuff like One piece ir Naruto
2:50 My only concern with this one is that it's highly possible that during Lumiere's time, society could have been ill-informed enough to assume that the 4 kingdoms were the entire world, not having any knowledge of anything beyond the sea
@@blastchaos4286 a reasonable concern, but they knew the world was bigger than the continent. There’s a line in the Ln that they’ve traded with other continents for hundreds of years. Also the science level they are at even in Lumiere’s time is more advanced than where we were at in our real world when we discovered the relative size of the planet
You can chalk up the fact that Luimere was more of an inventor than a fighter so he probably didn’t train as much to become more of a warrior. But yeah Luimere is still pretty damn powerful he is the Hashirama of Black Clover but there are a lot of characters that could give him a run for his money or flat out beat him
Hmm… I would say that using cinematic time automatically makes that calc wrong, because time flows differently from real life and anime/fiction time, If we don’t know the time frame for a feat we can’t use it. I also went for crafty’s throat on using this method in his video on how big is Black clover’s planet 😂but other than that and the Dorthy stuff from first listen I agree with everything else
Timeframes don't need to be blatantly stated if they can be logically gathered to a reasonable degree. Especially when in fights, cinematic time is usually slowed down which would make this a LOW BALL. Especially since the speeds gathered from the timeframes are SIGNIFICANTLY slower than their typical speeds making it a likelihood. As well as these feats happen almost instantly in the manga. Yeah I also disagree with Crafty's method for getting the planet being that big. Thanks for watching!
Moon (via salamender high ball and multipliers from that) and ftl+. I dont like dorophy scaling so moon is fine Im not sure how i feel about planet size, some ppl have told me when i use it its calc stacking so large planetary i can take it or leave it. Moon lvl is incredibly consistent for lower high tiers of the verse anyways (unless you use dorophy that ive said i dont like), tho i am suprised by the menthod i never thought of the clouds in that moment so thats cool
@@jjk4002 you'd be surprised what naruto fans will say to discredit any other verse getting past continental lmao. They just were making incoherent ramblings but just incase there was a good point in there I'm just going to mention what ppl think about it
I have a question in his final attack (the big sword of light) you can see all of the pages in his grimoire disappear into the sky before the big sword of light comes but when he gets revived by the magic stones all his the pages in his grimoire reappear, how???
Damn this was a great video! Don’t sleep on the first king bitch! lol But yeah this was great, can you do a how strong is Noelle video now because of what we got and learned in the latest chapters recently?
Hey Broku please explain about Asta's Grimorie. Why Nero dosen't know about Lichita and Liebe even tho she said she kept eye on Licht's Grimoire after his death.
I think it should be noted that just because the range of Salamander's breath is 1000 ri, that doesn't mean every single attack we've seen him do is actually that large. 1000 ri is just the maximum possible range it can reach, not the default range of every attack they do. Salamander is not going to immediately start off using his full power and range with the first attack. How much of his power he can bring out might also depend on the host. Either way, it's scientifically impossible for the Black Clover planet to be as large as Jupiter, because if it was then everyone and everything on it would be crushed by the immense gravity and pressure and there would be no solid land to stand on. Tabata is familiar with science (as evident by Hungry Joker) and would likely be aware of this fact, so I doubt he actually intended the Black Clover planet to be as big as Jupiter.
@@darthgoku1580 you could be right! But I disagree with the idea it’s impossible for planets to be big in fiction. It’s actually fairly common, in fact my favorite series the planet is thousands of times bigger than Jupiter.
@@Br0ku Their planet being as large as Jupiter is probably more of a highball only if we assume the maximum possible range of Salamander's breath. A lot of the characters could probably reach much further and destroy a lot more with their magic, but they subconsciously hold back the power and range so as not to indiscriminately destroy themselves and everyone and everything around them, kind of like how your brain subconsciously controls the power and intensity of your body's movements so it doesn't accidently destroy itself with every movement. 1000 ri would probably be if Salamder was not holding back and didn't care about hurting itself and its host.
I say that Lumirere at 25 is probably killing Monster Form Lucifero (Large Planet). I don't see him going past that, but getting over halfway through the story is a pretty big task for the equivalent of a Gun Nerd, rather than a trained U.S. Special Forces Operator. RESULT: Large Planet... Then Glamour World comes in clutch and gives my brother Solar System Level Power. If he was actually able to train, I'd 100% believe this.
@@angelotantoine6434 just to let you know, the videos are not up to quality as my regulars. They are pretty much just my thoughts in audio form with some visuals in the background. If that’s a deal breaker for you. No worries either way 💪🏻
i have allways thought of lumiere scaling between zagred and devil licht and since zagred is stronger than reve who created a moon i'd say lumiere is moon lvl atleast to maybe small planetary
also about the witch forest point you had its a grand magic region, which has far stronger natural mana in it so it would negate some of the spell but i still agree that the bc planet is larger than ours
Ftl continental to multi Continental I’m a little iffy on multi Continental because even though he stopped the life wiping attack, he would’ve died from it
In fact, this only made the feat clearer, since Lucifero with less than 15% could destroy the planet played according to what was said by the manga/narrator and the databook.
Broku casually carrying Black Clover on RUclips as usual 👌🏾
Idk what it is about your power scaling and analysis videos but they’re always top tier
@@Man-oc6bj thank you!
Frfr
@@Br0kuhonestly glad it's you who makes black clover content honestly wish more people talked about black clover
Fax bros hella underrated
it's the Combination of smooth voice, nice music good pacing, good visuals and knowledge of the series
Day always gets better when Broku uploads
I think Lumirere‘s power is somewhat overshadowed because I read Black Clover was originally supposed to end after the elf reincarnation arc.
Lumiere is so powerful beyond comprehension that he should be considered the peak of humankind like Hashirama Senju.
His legendary feat of slaying a literal monster with his royal magic was turned into a fairy tale. This legend even made it to the poorest regions of the country. The golden dawn wore his attire to honor Lumiere.
No other wizard king is that famous throughout history. Princia and Jester fought off the diamond kingdom. Chapter 1 started with Julius being celebrated for leading magic knights and captains against invaders.
Rouge wizard kings like Conrad and Edward were kept a secret so the public would never doubt the duty and power inline with the title.
Julius didn’t want people to know that he shrunk so that no outside force would assault clover in a weakened state.
@@Atticus-Catnipp that makes sense
@@Br0kudo you know where this rumor about bc ending early came from ive never heard it
Glad to see Black Clover content. One of the only RUclipsrs doing it. Thank you, Broku.
Ngl i wish you uploaded more as evwry upload brings a smile to my face😭🙏
eventually I'll be back to one video per week
@@Br0kureally that’s awesome
@@Br0ku LETS FUCKING GOOOOO.
I LOVE YOUR BLACK CLOVER VIDS! It even inspires me to write, a bit since Black clover is also a massive inspiration for my high fantasy books.
@@Br0ku😭🙏 soon
@@voider1212yea ngl I also have inspiration from black clover, but I also delve into bleach and naruto aswell
The only RUclipsr keeping peak clover alive w vid (we need the anime back)
This was a dope much needed video, especially the new take on how big the world is
I’ve been waiting for this video for a while
He makes light magic look cool
Where did you get the black clover planet sized feat? not nitpicking btw I've been watching since the ranking black bulls video years ago. I'm genuinely curious bc this is the first time I've heard a different reference for the planet size. 10/10 video broku enjoyed as always!
well it says the fire spirit's range is 1,000 Ri. But it needed an amp to take out the Witch's Forest, which should imply the Witch's Forest is that big. Which makes Clover massive, and then we see Clover on the globe, pixel scaling the globes diameter from there is where you can get it to large planetary.
Awesome video man. My RUclips turned off my notifications
@@lakithchandra8901 ooof thanks tho
Broku rest well and nice scale
@@tenshadowsnotbumgumi thank you !
Black clover downplay goes hard
W vid❤
@@RachelAdegboye thanks 💪🏻
MAN YOURE SO UNDERRATED, BLACK CLOVER IS UNDERRATED IN POWERSCALING!!!
But people are just biased bcz it’s a new gen power sytem anime, that’s why they don’t want to admit that asta scales way higher than planetary, or that he can beat anyone in the big 3, like how mush made asta vs garou giving garou everything except for hax and weapons, then there’s asta vs toshiro, giving everything to toshiro, man bleach fans are extremely biased ngl, they think every soul reaper scales to universal just bcz the top tiers are
Bleach slams Asta
@ uh… ok? But that doesn’t mean every relevant character does
I always just had him relative to the top tier spade arc captains
Glad to see someone giving black clover the love it deserves 😅
Lumiere absolutely stomps Minato its not even funny. But would still love to see how you see this matchup!
I would watch that minato match up.
Great video! Speaking of First Wizard King I always wonder how many Four Leaf grimoire user have existed like Were their more Males than Females users, What were the magic of each user, Were most of the Four Leaf users Magic one of the Four Main Element magic (Fire, Wind, Water and Earth), How many of them were Royals, Did they gain or had similar spells like Full Armor spell like Noelle's Valkyrie Dress, Did any of them had one of the Element Spirits, Were any of them Mana Zone users too etc...?
Way too underrated for youtube bro should be at 1m subs by now.. i like BC but i think people would prefer other anime maybe JJK or stuff like One piece ir Naruto
When the anime for BC comes back my channel will grow a lot.
Ok good luck 😁👍
First one here for once😂. W vid
Nice
Power scalers will be the bane of anime
@@Big_Braincell why was your last comment a month ago asking for a power scaling video then?
@@Br0ku it’s just a objective statement
@@Big_Braincell an u mean
2:50 My only concern with this one is that it's highly possible that during Lumiere's time, society could have been ill-informed enough to assume that the 4 kingdoms were the entire world, not having any knowledge of anything beyond the sea
@@blastchaos4286 a reasonable concern, but they knew the world was bigger than the continent. There’s a line in the Ln that they’ve traded with other continents for hundreds of years. Also the science level they are at even in Lumiere’s time is more advanced than where we were at in our real world when we discovered the relative size of the planet
What about a matchup between Lumiere against Kizaru from One Piece since they both use light-based abilities?
Finally some lumierre respect
Is the video into making because I saw on Twitter that you know the true identity of the anti-Magic
W as usual ( though I think the reason that the Forest of Witches wasn’t destroyed is for a different reason than yours 😅)
You can chalk up the fact that Luimere was more of an inventor than a fighter so he probably didn’t train as much to become more of a warrior.
But yeah Luimere is still pretty damn powerful he is the Hashirama of Black Clover but there are a lot of characters that could give him a run for his money or flat out beat him
asta when he first got his devil powers
edit now i belive he's like stronger than zagred
He definitely is stronger than the demon monkey guy
Hmm… I would say that using cinematic time automatically makes that calc wrong, because time flows differently from real life and anime/fiction time, If we don’t know the time frame for a feat we can’t use it. I also went for crafty’s throat on using this method in his video on how big is Black clover’s planet 😂but other than that and the Dorthy stuff from first listen I agree with everything else
Timeframes don't need to be blatantly stated if they can be logically gathered to a reasonable degree. Especially when in fights, cinematic time is usually slowed down which would make this a LOW BALL. Especially since the speeds gathered from the timeframes are SIGNIFICANTLY slower than their typical speeds making it a likelihood. As well as these feats happen almost instantly in the manga.
Yeah I also disagree with Crafty's method for getting the planet being that big. Thanks for watching!
Moon (via salamender high ball and multipliers from that) and ftl+. I dont like dorophy scaling so moon is fine
Im not sure how i feel about planet size, some ppl have told me when i use it its calc stacking so large planetary i can take it or leave it. Moon lvl is incredibly consistent for lower high tiers of the verse anyways (unless you use dorophy that ive said i dont like), tho i am suprised by the menthod i never thought of the clouds in that moment so thats cool
Finding out the size of things to use for calcs isn't calc stacking, who told you that😭
@@jjk4002 you'd be surprised what naruto fans will say to discredit any other verse getting past continental lmao. They just were making incoherent ramblings but just incase there was a good point in there I'm just going to mention what ppl think about it
Broku didn't you say that you were working on a video to defend Asta's character, it's been a while on that statement
@@sofyanjamal4980 yeah but videos take a long time to make with my wrists the way they are
@Br0ku I apologize I forgot about you wrist injury, take your time
@Br0ku if only we could heal that injury 😭
I have a question in his final attack (the big sword of light) you can see all of the pages in his
grimoire disappear into the sky before the big sword of light comes but when he gets revived by the magic stones all his the pages in his grimoire reappear, how???
@@Tanzim-c3e it’s probably symbolically meaning that he’s combining his spells together not that he’s sacrificing them
@@Br0ku oh
Still ain’t beating Naruto
But seriously I did need this as his scalling was wierd for me at first but your breakdown helped
Can you do a video on mana zone vs mana method
Damn this was a great video! Don’t sleep on the first king bitch! lol
But yeah this was great, can you do a how strong is Noelle video now because of what we got and learned in the latest chapters recently?
@@greyworld6242 possibly! Thank you :)
Bro is a Julius victim 🗿
Hey Broku please explain about Asta's Grimorie. Why Nero dosen't know about Lichita and Liebe even tho she said she kept eye on Licht's Grimoire after his death.
nero was asleep
I think it should be noted that just because the range of Salamander's breath is 1000 ri, that doesn't mean every single attack we've seen him do is actually that large. 1000 ri is just the maximum possible range it can reach, not the default range of every attack they do. Salamander is not going to immediately start off using his full power and range with the first attack. How much of his power he can bring out might also depend on the host.
Either way, it's scientifically impossible for the Black Clover planet to be as large as Jupiter, because if it was then everyone and everything on it would be crushed by the immense gravity and pressure and there would be no solid land to stand on. Tabata is familiar with science (as evident by Hungry Joker) and would likely be aware of this fact, so I doubt he actually intended the Black Clover planet to be as big as Jupiter.
But then you forgot that every single character in BC is magically reinforced 💀
@@darthgoku1580 you could be right! But I disagree with the idea it’s impossible for planets to be big in fiction. It’s actually fairly common, in fact my favorite series the planet is thousands of times bigger than Jupiter.
@@Br0ku Their planet being as large as Jupiter is probably more of a highball only if we assume the maximum possible range of Salamander's breath. A lot of the characters could probably reach much further and destroy a lot more with their magic, but they subconsciously hold back the power and range so as not to indiscriminately destroy themselves and everyone and everything around them, kind of like how your brain subconsciously controls the power and intensity of your body's movements so it doesn't accidently destroy itself with every movement. 1000 ri would probably be if Salamder was not holding back and didn't care about hurting itself and its host.
Do you think Julius(not lucius) is still top 10 in the verse
@@JakeBosh15 no
So what I’m hearing is he’s a chapter 1 Astra victim
I say that Lumirere at 25 is probably killing Monster Form Lucifero (Large Planet). I don't see him going past that, but getting over halfway through the story is a pretty big task for the equivalent of a Gun Nerd, rather than a trained U.S. Special Forces Operator.
RESULT: Large Planet... Then Glamour World comes in clutch and gives my brother Solar System Level Power. If he was actually able to train, I'd 100% believe this.
How many members videos do you have?
a lot. At least 50+ by now
@@Br0ku alright I’ll become a member
@@angelotantoine6434 just to let you know, the videos are not up to quality as my regulars. They are pretty much just my thoughts in audio form with some visuals in the background. If that’s a deal breaker for you. No worries either way 💪🏻
@@Br0ku nah it’s fine I like your content even the tiktoks
Do you consider lumiere as Large planetery or small planetery ?
@@koz3ris252 I’d say at least planetary. Because I understand if people don’t want to use the calcs that have the BC planet larger than Jupiter.
Country level
@@apocrypha5062 I don't care, id rather relie on broku rather than you.
@@koz3ris252 Yeah that dudes BC knowledge is lacking
he gives me hashirama vibes
Wow I thought was the only one who met people who say the movie wasn’t canon 😂
I wonde if Lumiere could use the Mana Method from Heart Kingdom.
@@dspace4514 I would say no because he never used it, but I’m sure he’d learn quick
NERD! good video bro
@@necoo214 💀💀 thx
B4: Lumiere could probably take on a dark triad member.
After: I think I was about right
He'd lose to base dark triad members sadly
strong enough to be called the first wizard king
i have allways thought of lumiere scaling between zagred and devil licht
and since zagred is stronger than reve who created a moon
i'd say lumiere is moon lvl atleast to maybe small planetary
also about the witch forest point you had
its a grand magic region, which has far stronger natural mana in it
so it would negate some of the spell
but i still agree that the bc planet is larger than ours
I hate how the anime community downplays black clover. You’re the only one who doesn’t
How strong do you think julius is?
@@SomeGuyWh0Ex1sts he’s a lot stronger
Pre possible edit post word devil is. 10 lumiere is a 7 asst is a 4/5
Lumiere is the goat
Great video! Black Clover characters are way beyond planetary!
@@rodthedigger2902 thanks for watching 💪🏻💪🏻
I just thought he was fodder since the series continued and showed broken stuff
@@Austinfdp he’s a shonen power cliffing victim
Ftl continental to multi Continental I’m a little iffy on multi Continental because even though he stopped the life wiping attack, he would’ve died from it
Looks like my mid ball scale was closer to a low ball but I’m glad bc unless other fandoms I’m not glazing
Planet Level and MFTL
Stil ain't beating Goku.
Duh
But rimuru can
😰
@tenshadowsnotbumgumiGoku uses anti-Rimuru Kamehameha (sure hit effect and negates everything Rimuru can do he told me fr)
80% Dark triad level, final attack that beat Licht is 100% dark triad level
@@yasir9749 unfortunately the Base Triad no-Diff Lumiere
He could dogwalk Lucifero 👀
Statement unchanged 😂
In fact, this only made the feat clearer, since Lucifero with less than 15% could destroy the planet played according to what was said by the manga/narrator and the databook.
Sukuna > First Wizard King
Gojo > First Wizard King
@@apocrypha5062 no lol
2nd strongest wizard king
He's the weqkest onw 😂
🫡
74th
Show died 😭😭😂😂😂burning the trash manga and partying as I speak 🗣️
ok good for u wasted ur money
Someone help me with how to edit RUclips videos. Just need to keep it simple