Edit: She is messy as hell and media trained LOL Normalize changing your opinion after being presented with new information 🫶🏻 Gypsy is SO well spoken and confident in how she portrays herself. She takes accountability but is keenly aware of how her mother’s actions impacted her childhood and subsequent decisions. I don’t think it’s glamorizing “a murder,” I think it’s bringing awareness to those who are victims of munchausen by proxy syndrome. Happy for her!
@@jessicagillis4782 sure, but that’s only part of her story. She tried to run away and get out several times. Without proper education, she just did what she could to escape a situation.
The way Nick and Natalie handled this interview was amazing they were careful and companionate and still asked really good questions. Gypsy is so well spoken and comes across very confident her documentary was amazing and this podcast shed a lot more light into who she is and her story. I hope only amazing things happen for her after everything she has been through
Excellent interview and Gypsy is a very intelligent well spoken young lady, she’s so humble and takes accountability, has growth and kindness in her heart. I love the way Nick and Natalie interviewed her with such respect, kindness and understanding.
what makes you think that? so weird. he didnt even have social media before he got with gypsy. hes just a supportive husband. im sorry you dont know how that feels? @@brandihurst9781
Ok after allll the interviews and lifetime specials, this might have to be the best and most insightful interview with Gypsy this far. She really gives all the answers here in a very chill setting. And you can tell she’s really trying to hold herself accountable for as much as she can rn.
I'm so annoyed with the people saying that she holds herself accountable... Her favorite line is "Remember, I did not commit the crime, Nich did. He could have made a better decision, I know I asked him to do it but I am not a murderer, I could never had done that, I'am just an accessory" This rhetoric is so stupid and this is EXACTLY why she asked the guy who hear voices to do it!! It sounds just like if she pulled a gun trigger then said "I know I pulled the trigger but I didn't kill my mom, the gun did" its just as stupid... People are falling for her manipulations. She's fame and money hungry and it's given to her on a platter. If she came out and lived a quiet, discreet lifestyle out of the limelight I could have trusted her more. Gypsy is like her mother... both smart and troubled.
You know nothing about her as a person but you do know of her struggles. No compassion but just judgement, I think you take is awful and accounts for zero nuance.
Literally. And the way she tries to make prison sound like it was easy and a fun place with parties so it looked like she didn’t really go to jail…. She’s disgusting
@@jadamcCompassion? For someone who groomed and manipulated a disabled young man with autism and mental illness on disability payments? For 2 years!! She lured him into BDSM (yes it was Gypsy who coerced him into this sadistic fetish not the other way around) and used sex to keep him on her hook. She gaslit him, she used passive aggressive emotional blackmail and triangulation to make sure he stayed on track to carry out her request (order) for the brutal murder of her own mother. “Oh I loved my mother, I didn’t want her dead, I just wanted to be out of that house.” Give - Me - A - Break.
I’m honestly mind blown at how eloquent, mature and self aware she is, not only for someone who endure a tremendous amount of trauma, but a “regular” person.
I totally agree, like I am shaking my head how intellegent speaking she is? I have been following her, since I saw I think on 2020, or some crime show one night, and I was in hysterics seeing it. I was heart broken when I saw her got arrested? That was so OMG for me? And now seeing her here and out of prison, just is AMAZING, and I am so happy for her, that God has given her a chance to have a life now?
She's so regular it's crazy she's quirky and cute I wish her the best. I can only imagine the type of person she would of been if none of this past tragedies would of happened
this was very enjoyable. i’m glad how you guys just asked her normal everyday fun things and didn’t just focus on her story. i’m sure she really appreciated just sitting down and talking like a normal person with you guys. much respect
If you watch Gypsy’s new docu-series your heart will melt!! Kristy is such a sweetheart, Gypsy calls her Mom, she said she was her mother figure, and the first thing Kristy did when Gypsy got locked up was put her hand to her hand on the glass barrier and tell her she loves her 😢❤
Love seeing prison actually reforming someone. She took complete advantage of what counseling they offered. Went in as a child, and came out a woman. Lots of love and respect for her. She doesn't put blame on anything, she owns her actions and has grown from it. Kudos
No she don't!!! Are you blind?! What's wrong with everyone. How can she be so happy , this is all only bc she manipulated a disabled guy to kill her mother so she can get away with all this .... This was all on her!
Whilst I agree with you on everything but what about Nick? Sure he had some dark thoughts.. but everyone does .. doesn’t mean we act on them.. i mean as much as I am supportive of her I think she definitely encouraged him in some way to do it…
@@thatgirl9532I agree....and to top it off he is mentally challenged...he has autism and because of that, I think it probably was a lot easier for her to manipulate him into doing it. He had never really had a true relationship with a girl before and thought he was madly in love with her. I think she could've got him to do basically ANYTHING because of that and I think she knew that.
@@thatgirl9532I agree....and to top it off he is mentally challenged...he has autism and because of that, I think it probably was a lot easier for her to manipulate him into doing it. He had never really had a true relationship with a girl before and thought he was madly in love with her. I think she could've got him to do basically ANYTHING because of that and I think she knew that.
Legit question - how do we know her responses aren’t a result of a coaching by a good lawyer and publicist? There are a lot of ppl in the world who go to therapy and have learned the lingo but it doesn’t mean there’s deep change. Only time will tell.
@@heythere4469 I highly doubt her publicist has quizzed her on what to say to a woman who’s struggling with her husband’s newfound sex drive but that’s just me!
@@heythere4469 Agree with the person above just because I don’t believe Gypsy Rose is a horrible human however the fact that she didn’t even try to protect/advocate for the boyfriend who murdered her mother… she might not have done it but she encouraged him come on!! 🙄
@@heythere4469you’ve got a point. Don’t forget she had a lot of that with her mom. But it’s possible therapy has helped her learn to think for herself and not let others control and manipulate her.
Same. I think it's because she still attached to the stigma of conspiring to kill her mother, so a lot of lawyers are iffy about it which is not right though because these doctors need to be held accountable.
Same. I think it's because she still attached to the stigma of conspiring to kill her mother, so a lot of lawyers are iffy about it which is not right though because these doctors need to be held accountable.
I immediately thought of Kay Van Wey who handled the malpractice cases for the victims of Duntch aka Dr Death in Dallas. It was the first time a Dr was convicted for things that happened in the OR
One eventually will. It's probably best to let the heat settle down around her for a little bit anyway. She needs to just relax and settle into her new life for a while before bringing more stress into like a lawsuit.
I wonder if it’s not only the stigma but also just the overwhelming large amount of doctors who contributed TO the malpractice. All of this originated in Louisiana and DeeDee said records were lost during Katrina and regardless of how accurate and true those records are or are not, they may actually be lost. 🤷🏻♀️ However the specific neurologist from Mercy Hospital in Springfield Missouri SHOULD be held liable criminally and have his license revoked. He acknowledged the presence of munchausens, documented it, and then backed up his excuse for failure to report. He’s a MANDATED reporter. A negative muscle biopsy, clear and unremarkable scans, normal reflexes, and no lower extremity atrophy SCREAMED munchausens and he flat out ignored it.
I’m so glad she chose to be interviewed by Nick. He’s the best. What a great thing for his channel and the whole world to hear her story, in her words. We love you Gypsy!!! And great job Nick!!!
The way y’all answered that viewer about her husband’s sex drive was so good and I couldn’t agree more. Marriage isn’t always going to be easy and communication and compromise is so important 💗
Out of all the interviews I’ve watched with Gypsy, this was by far the best. Your questions were so appropriate and created such a naturally comforting space for Gypsy and Ryan.
For sure when people haven’t experienced trauma with their parents, they tend to think you must hate them, but it’s actually so much more complex of a relationship. I definitely see where she’s coming from.
Why are people overlooking the fact that she said in the lifetime documentary that she picked up a bb gun(thinking it was a real gun) and shot her mom multiple times but in this podcast she claims that she could never bring herself to actually kill? She may have been abused but this girl is a master manipulator,a liar and unable to truly take accountability for her actions. I wish people stop treating her like a celebrity.
I feel the same way. She was raised to lie, cheat, steal, & manipulate everyone to get what she wants. All of this attention & money she's receiving is just gross & wrong. I won't give a view/my social media currency to anything that's connected to her directly
I would say insurance companies need to be held accountable. Drs do not communicate to each other but insurance companies know and approve EVERYTHING. The fact that there was not some sort of red flag to protect her is so sad. Thank you for having Gypsy and being so kind to her. She deserves so much love, support and for her voice to be heard.
Absolutely. Blaming a Doctor who got to see her once with documentation and a mother stating this is true while Gypsy was trained to play the part is insane. Granted there are bad Doctors just as there are bad people in every occupation but to blame them all is wrong. Thank God Doctors don't automatically assume we are abusing our kids when they see our kids.
They won’t cuz she was on Medicaid (MO Healthnet) highly doubt they would be held accountable, not sure how status of limitation works for Medical Malpractice in Missouri or Louisiana though, I believe she can still sue.
So true. One of my kids records were once lost and they were acting like my kid needed every single vaccination again. I said, well just get the records from the health insurance. And that is when I found out that health insurance companies don't even keep record of what vaccinations they pay out on. I was absolutely shocked, it makes no sense whatsoever. They can be getting scammed by doctors offices too, so it makes no sense on any level.
makes me admire her even more the fact that she's using her platform to advocate for change. she could've just laid low and moved on with her life (and trust me she's EARNED it) but instead she's there trying to be a beacon of hope to so many victims. brave woman!
So brave!!! I said the same thing, she could have changed her name and went on live in the silence and I agree she definitely deserves it, but instead she’s shining a light on something that a lot of people have never even heard about! I’ve never been more proud of someone I don’t even know.
I have to say, Nick and Natalie have really come into their own with these interviews. So comfortable, respectful and really great questioning and letting people answer. Bravo!!
I love this interview. But, Ryan, if you're seeing this, let your woman talk without trying to interrupt or talk over her, especially when it's her story. Other than that, I think they're cute together and this interview is awesome. I love the way he stands up for her
I had this dynamic with my husband - I think Ryan is just so enthusiastic about Gypsy that he can't help but want to talk, talk, talk. He doesn't solely do this with Gypsy either; this seems to be his communication default. I have to work really hard not to do this, as taking turns in conversation when I'm knowledgeable or enthused about a subject is not my strong point. You can see he comes from a good place & wants the best for her & for them both. I wish them the very best.
I didnt even notice but i went back and watched. It seems he is just excited. It also wasnt gypsys story that he was interupting. It was both their story. I think this is pretty normal for a new couple because people get so happy and excited. You can see it on their face. I cant imagine them being so calm and taking turns talking like they had been together doing a podcast for years. People would think they arent into eachother at all. Its not like he was trying to be rude and talk over her. He was just excited to talk about their life together. Sorry he broke a podcast rule and you couldnt understand them both talking at the same time.
@@angieeemmmariethats odd. Because he was talking about the exact same thing she was. Just adding in details she was missing. Like with the probation officer. I feel bad for you if thats really how you feel. You must look at everything in a negative light😢
Yet she still has zero remorse for Nick spending life in prison for doing the crime she masterminded and coerced him into doing. They should both be locked up.
Why would she had remorse for him 😂? As she said she was part of the plan to murder her mother but did not did it so stop acting dumb , try raising your IQ@@umokay5516
this was honestly the best podcast I watched with Gypsy. I really did such an amazing job during this interview. I feel like gypsy really did such a great job, expressing the growth that has taken place in her life over the past almost a decade. Hands down best interview Ive watched.
My psychology class touched briefly on munchausen by proxy and used Gypsy’s case as an example and even said her case is really what brought it to light.
@@twilit that isn't true. It's incredibly uncommon, it's not a typical, common mental disorder like anxiety, depression, bipolar. You will rarely cross a parent with munchausen by proxy tbh
Why is every second comment about how well spoken, or articulate, or intelligent she is? She always was, the innocent sick child part was an act! She was 23 at the time of the crime and extremely intelligent.
The BEST almost 2 hours I’ve spent in a long time. This was a great podcast for Gypsy and Ryan to come on to! Praying for Gypsy to have the most normal life from here on out. She is a true survivor with one hell of a story.
She was so well spoken and mature. This is the first interview I’ve watched her do and was happily surprised. Great job Nick and Natalie being so thoughtful with your questions. Loved it! ❤
saying she does associate with being called a “murderer” couldn’t be more manipulative. she claims to not be able to kill, but she plotted her mother’s whole murder, step by step, and cleaned up the aftermath, but still can’t take accountability. she might not have done the ACTUAL killing, but all of the premeditation was done by her. she continues to be manipulative, as she places all the blame on nick and claims to not be a killer.
Facts. Does it confuse u how so many seem to idolize her or is that just me? I read those transcripts and watched interviews of her interrogation..she a great actor, but saying she really is shy and hates attention after all her interviews and appearances on tv etc.? Well, she ain't fooling all of us.
I wanted to physically vomit within the first few minutes of this interview. Stating she only asked him, she spent two years emotionally manipulating him! Then saying she wasn’t involved in the actual killing as if that’s completely fine and normal! Then to laugh and joke about having ‘mommy issues’ she is a disgusting sociopath 🤢
Exactly . Nick wouldn’t have commited the murder if she had never brought it up or instructed him to kill her mother. She took advantage of how much he loved her and put the whole blame on him. I find it weird that people are idolizing her because at the end of the day yes she was suffering because of her mom but she could have gone and look for help some where else. She is in fact a murderer.
This interview is great but I definitely think she could handle the response to nick differently. From what I heard, nick has an IQ of 70, has Asperger’s, and did recommend they not kill her mom, but she insisted. She is not taking accountability for that part. I don’t believe she should be in prison for life. It sounds like she is making a lot of progress and trying to take accountability, but is not quite there in terms of what she says about nick.
@@alyshaalberts5694yes .. agree on this .. i think people are more focused on the abused she received and how she is thriving now despite that. But still we should not minmize her involvement of the murder of her mother
36:56 this part kinda bothers me because on The View she said "i am a murderer." She is the one who told Nick that she wanted him to kill her mom. She stole the knife from walmart, researched methods, instructed Nick via video on where her moms bed was....she IS a murderer just as much as Nick is. Saying Gypsy isnt a murderer is like saying Charles Manson isnt a murderer because he wasnt the trigger/knife man. Don't like that...
manipulation at the finest and seems to be working on 90% of these fools who watched this interview and still side with a murderer while being in denial
@maddieboggs1040 I think so too. Things are not adding up. Why did Nick insist that he only stabbed 4 times? He was adamant. Something is fishy. Nick did say he had a secret that he was gonna take to the grave with him....he said that gypsy didn't stab her mother but what if one of her PERSONAS did?? I could see this happening.
For someone who hasn’t had much education… she really speaks well. Shes had time to go through therapy & become who she wants to be . You can tell she’s really thought about everything & she aware of what’s happening. This was the best interview she’s done. Yes I saw her documentary where she didn’t understand why her parole officer wanted her to leave the state … She just needed time to realize Yes you are free to socialize in the Real world & become a civilian again BUT you aren’t legally free just yet. Once’s she’s legally free she’ll have all the time to truly enjoy that accomplishment.
Shes had a lot of practice manipulation. Learned from mom and then went to prison to learn more manipulation techniques from others. She was a smart girl naturally but was raised in toxic environment. Reminds me of Megan Markle 😮
This is my first interview listening to her, I hope Gypsy takes care of herself and also puts up boundaries against interview questions if they trigger her later (can you share your recurring murder dream, how would you have protected yourself from your mom when you were little). We aren't entitled to know all these inner things about her if it's uncomfortable 💜
People keep criticising Ryan but to be honest I see how Gypsy would be so in love with him. Even the man's voice is soothing. Can you imagine after allllll of the chaos she's been through, meeting someone whos calm, slow to anger, quietly confident, genuinely loyal, willing to go to therapy etc. They're very yin and Yang. It's a lovely balance. They're so unbelievably sweet together. ❤
She’s had ten years to practice saying the right things. She’s known she was being released for two years and she has masterfully planned all that is happening. She’s a planner, her mother was a planner and neither of them were stupid.
She was a child when her mum was telling her to act sick. A child doesn't know better it's her only reality at that point and trusts caregiver. She didn't know her own age and was told to believe she's younger than reality, her judgement was compromised. Even if Gypsy did learn manipulation by watching her mum do it and taking instructions from her mum to do it, even if she knows how to manipulate by watching mum and taking instructions from mum, she can still choose to act Right and Good now that she is on her own.
that was the first thing i noticed about him when he came on the mic too. i've heard him in interviews w/ her before but never noticed how deep and lovely his voice is.
I think it’s normal to be skeptical because of the situation. But hopefully he’s not and it just happens to be a unique way of meeting. 🤞 I wish well for them. It’s obvious she’s done a lot of work, so hopefully as they join lives, no huge red flags appear. And if they do, she’s able to do what’s needed.
Am I the only person here disturbed by Gypsy Rose giving marriage advice when her and her husband have only spent the last 7 DAYS together?? WTH do they know about what it’s like to be in a marriage yet?? Many things about her disturb me but I commend her for finding a way to “sensationalize” and “monetize” on her situation. It’s obvious she has had a lot of coaching on how to respond to certain questions. Her 15 min are up now. Bye girl Bye 🙄
After everything being said about this couple, this interview was so enlightening. Ryan and Gypsy seem like such genuine people. Ryan seems like the perfect man for her. Gypsy taking full responsibility for her mistakes. She has done such amazing work on herself. Im praying for such a peaceful, joyful life for them!
gypsy is truly incredible. the effort she has put into her healing and well-being is so evident. it's so crazy to think about everything she went through and how well and quickly she has acclimated. shes seriously so strong and i can see it in every persons face who has interviewed her so far, the like pure amazement of her and the GROWTH
Gypsy Rose was tormented & tortured, physically, mentally and emotionally, from the moment she entered this world, by the one person on this earth that should have protected and cared for her. Her understanding and ability of being able to tell right from wrong HAD TO BE skewed beyond recognition at the time she was involved in the planning of this crime. She did her best in finding herself and healing herself in prison. That should tell everyone all you need to know about how bad her life was before she was sent to prison, if prison was where she matured and healed. The idea she doesn’t still hold any ill will towards her mother is simply amazing. I am wishing her all the best in the world, she deserves to live a peaceful life, for the first time in her life. She deserves any attention she wants too. She mostly deserves for people to stop judging her as if she’s some character in their favorite TV show, she’s a real person, not a character you get to control. She doesn’t owe any of you any-damn-thing. This young woman has the world ahead of her now, and I hope beyond all hope she makes the best of it.
ACTUALLY it is the total opposite for me . I wonder if her upbringing was as bad as she says because she sounds very confident and well spoken here , inquisitive etc....You just don't change your entire personality in prison for 8yrs surrounded by mostly people lying, conniving, stealing, backstabbing, scamming, harmful , killing etc...and come out a new solid person . It seems she has had some , atleast , home schooling and made to feel confident, well spoken and intelligent ....that just doesn't come from doing time surrounded by felons .
It is a miracle that someone from this small town from this dysfunctional family who was put in an impossible situation at such a young age came through it with such grace, such a grasp on her situation. She OWNS her accountability, seems so incredibly kind and sweet and down to earth, communicates so clearly and with humility and poise and ease despite everything she has been through. I find so much joy in her freedom that now gives her a platform to share her perspective and her candidness. She deserves to be recognized and forgiven and appreciated for all the light and awareness she will bring to MPB and its victims.
Deedee drugged her to create the symptoms. Her medicine cabinet labeled medications with what they are for and side effects. I read that Deedee was a trained nurse.
Right! And obviously very thankful for medicine and doctors, but it really does show how it's a profit industry. They make money off people being sick and staying sick. Their job isn't to get to the root cause, it's to treat it (throw prescriptions at it). Ugh, Poor Gypsy!
Not advocating for the doctors because I definitely agree but remember the found stolen script pads in her house. Which means dee dee was writing her own scripts for gypsy. That is also scary!
Gypsy is so well spoken, sweet and I can tell she really has a big heart. You both treated this with care, kindness and respect. I’m a new subscriber and I just have to say out of all the interviews with Gypsy, your interview is the best. You both are the perfect example of how to handle such a delicate situation. Good job to all of you and I’m so proud of Gypsy. I’m happy she has people that truly love her in her life, and I wish her all the best ❤
I really enjoyed this episode. Being fully transparent, I wasn't subscribed before this episode, and I'm so glad I am. I love the productivity of the conversations, the way Nick guides the conversations with his guests, and how much insight/perspective he shares. So good! Also, Natalie... drop dead gorgeous and super down to earth. Hope she becomes a regular. Can we please have Gypsy and Ryan back on?? I feel like yall oddly mesh so so well and this was such a good listen ❤
28:20 listening to this on speaker whilst cleaning and I have to keep stopping to take a minute. I am so moved by this woman’s courage and the way she speaks. My 17 year old watched the act with me and I’m sharing this with her. I am so proud of gypsy. She is an inspiration and I don’t give a sh!t what anyone has to say ❤❤
She seems super chill after being in prison almost nine years but like she said at least she wasn’t confined and had friends but wow mature and well spoken, actually has herself together and happily married. Love that for her, she deserves this happy ending after everything
So impressed by how self aware, informed, and well-spoken Gypsy is. Nick asked a great question about whether we should be holding her doctors accountable. Their dialog immediately made me think of the ‘Take Care of Maya’ doc on Netflix and how skewed the other side of this conundrum really is (and for good reason). It was a relief hearing Gypsy herself bring the doc up and the imbalance her tragic case inevitably contributed to. Her current awareness and understanding of the nuisances of MSP paired with her high-profile advocacy is going to change lives. Appreciate the pod and overall thoughtfulness to this interview.
This is refreshing, I’m barly 15min into this video and I finally get to hear her now and to what she wants to do! Not so much her past 😊 she’s matured so much! I’m so proud of how much she has accomplished and I wish her nothing but the best! ❤
The fact that Gypsy is so graceful and articulate having never been in a classroom, is stunning. She is a true testament to survival!! I see big things in her future. ❤
She turned down therapy in prison. She doesn't think she's done anything wrong. She's in a permanent delusional state with way too much emotional immaturity.
Also really nice to see Gypsy and her husband and hear more about their story. I think many of us are skeptical of anyone who reaches out to someone in jail/prison. Dating is so hard, regardless, and it’s tough to know someone, even when dating in a traditional way. They seem to have a good start and I wish them all the best as they navigate the next chapter of their relationship.
I have absolutely no respect for someone who doesn’t take responsibility for her actions, especially regarding Nick. Who says that about a boy who’s not capable of making rash decisions! He’s NOT a typical man who would suggest doing the right thing. Although I feel bad for her entire situation, she needs therapy and is definitely an accomplice to murder regardless of rather the state recognizes it or not
Yes, she is definitely an accomplice to murder, and it seems like she likes to downplay this. She DID take advantage of someone who doesn’t seem to have the mental capability to make proper decisions. I just don’t like how she brushes off that she really didn’t do much when it comes to being involved in murder
I would do a lot of research on Nick before you start defending him he had a lot of dark fantasies. Again im not supporting either of them but he does is where he needs to be.
I just want to start out by saying im a new veiwer of The Vial Files! And i love it and appreciate how well Nick handled this interview! Gypsy is very well spoken and i feel that this interview really showed that she is taking responsibility and i think thats what people needed to hear! Look forward to seeing her live her best life!
I’m glad she’s actually using the tools she has available to become better and understand why what happened was wrong and other things. My mom was extremely controlling until my now husband and his grandparents helped me get out with my daughter at 22. I understand how she still loved her mom but needed to get out of that situation and it’s hard af.
Nick and Nat clearly made this a fun interview for Gypsy. Great job after she’s had to go through a media tour: I’m sure it took a toll, and this seemed like a breath of fresh air for her. I’m wishing her so much happiness. And looking forward to hearing about where you guys go on your double date!
@@WelcomeToOurJourneyShe’s using the opportunity to speak for herself since everyone else has told her story for her. She has every right to do that (and want that). Not to mention, she probably needs the money.
ABOUT TIME you are going to talk about this paternity scandal! Better late then never. Dave (and Steve) have been the only 2 people to have the courage to support Clayton during this time. Nick, with your following, this will hopefully bring more eyes to the case and get the justice Clayton (and Dave) deserve!!
YES! And this is absolutely true crime! A case that is “truth stranger than fiction.” It doesn’t have to be a violent crime. I’ll tune in to this show for the first time for the Clayton interview.
I was really uncomfortable with the question about Gypsy’s first experience of sexual intimacy with her husband. I wondered why this is something we feel we have a need or a right to ask of someone. If she had offered to share this of her own volition, that would be different. This is coming from someone who is very open discussing and engaging sexually. But this oh so vulnerable moment of coming together of two people, especially one with Gypsy’s past of being sexually exploited -it’s not our business to ask to be privy to the story. Certain human experiences have elements of the sacred.
I think gypsy has come across so well in the media. I can’t imagine what she’s been through before and during prison etc but to be so self aware and open like she is she’s doing so well I wish her nothing but happiness, health and love for the future
I am shocked by this interview and very impressed by how well Gypsy's listens and answers the questions. The change def shows through. Great job landing this interview!
I feel like she should get a job as maybe a host on a radio show or some sort of talk show or something honestly. She definitely is very well spoken and relatable.
Great job to all! It was a very interesting episode to watch. Kept me up past my bedtime. She is so well spoken and comfortable for someone who has dealt with so much! And your chemistry was very relaxed and symbiotic. The only thing I was wondering was if you or Gypsy were uncomfortable sitting so close to each other. I was waiting for someone to bump someones legs or mic stands haha.
Such a great episode. Gypsy has so much self awareness and she deserves this second chance at life. I wish her and Ryan a long, happy, fulfilled life together!
I feel she needs to take more responsibility for the death of her mother. She is the reason her mother is dead, Nick wouldn’t have done it if Gypsy didn’t insist on it. Yes the way she grew up was fucked up but she fought fire with fire. She definitely is a murderer even if her hands are clean, her gloves aren’t.
This is my first time viewing your channel. I’ve never watched the bachelor so I didn’t know who you were. But I’ve followed Gypsy’s story for many years. This was an incredible podcast! You as interviewers were incredible, and the conversation was incredible. Ryan seems like such a wonderful man. I can see how he is her rock. I’m so happy for Gypsy and her new found freedom. I wish her nothing but the best! It sounds like she has a good head on her shoulders and a fantastic partner to help her along the way. Thank you for an awesome 2 hours!
@@anythingcanhappen290She doesn't have to give us every little last detail she owes us nothing what we do know for a fact is she was an abused and tortured child who was finally desperate enough to get out of her situation even though it took murder to do it.
@@sugarsundae3400 no one is asking for the details. Thats not what my statement implied. Im referring to the gullibility of the public but since u brought up the topic of her in that light, people are speaking out. The media is drowning them out to perpetuate whats going on here
THIS IS A GREAT EPISODE! Gypsy is amazing!! I'm so proud of her awareness, vulnerability and openness to be better than who she was and consciously doing it!
Loved this!! Gypsy your very well spoken and although have a really unique story, very relatable too. Your so sweet, confident, inspiring and I can’t wait to see what the future holds for you! Wishing you and your husband the best he truly loves you, you can tell and I’m happy y’all can be together now! 🙏🏼💕
Es increíble verla tan bien, tan desenvuelta, tan bien hablada. Obviamente pagó por lo que hizo, ahora a vivir y recuperar tantos años. Go Gypsy!! Good energy for you ❤️
I don't watch much TV and knew nothing of her story....She is adorable and strong. It is fascinating to see how grounded she is after going through such an awful upbringing. Kudos to her for doing the work to heal her heart and mind, while in jail
I didn’t know this podcast existed! I absolutely love you two 🙏🏼 I very much appreciate being able to see gypsy and her husband so casual and comfortable. I think this shows how much accountability Gypsy is taking & more of the world needs that quality. I was a little weirded out at first that she went straight to socials out of prison, but this feels very genuine 🙏🏼
I think I was a little iffy about Gypsy and almost felt ppl were glamorizing her story but this interview made me see her in a different light. She’s so well spoken and compassionate. I’m a fan after this interview. I really hope life does her well 💕
I’M SO READY FOR THIS!
I’m curious if she’s gone to visit her mom since she’s been released since I’m assuming she never got to go to a funeral for her.
@@Lexi-Mher mom got cremated
Her mom was flushed down a toilet!
@@Lexi-Mvisit her mom where her mom got flushed down the toilet
@@Lexi-MShe can't visit her mum her mothers own parents flushed her ashes down the toilet 🚽
Edit: She is messy as hell and media trained LOL
Normalize changing your opinion after being presented with new information 🫶🏻
Gypsy is SO well spoken and confident in how she portrays herself. She takes accountability but is keenly aware of how her mother’s actions impacted her childhood and subsequent decisions. I don’t think it’s glamorizing “a murder,” I think it’s bringing awareness to those who are victims of munchausen by proxy syndrome. Happy for her!
she still had her mother killed, that isnt the right way to handle the situation
@@jessicagillis4782 sure, but that’s only part of her story. She tried to run away and get out several times. Without proper education, she just did what she could to escape a situation.
she couldve gotten help, no one should ever justify a murder @@emilyelombardo1611
@@emilyelombardo1611she has a phone, internet, nice neighbors, and could walk. Her mom was slow and sick. She had other options.
Sociopaths do that.
The way Nick and Natalie handled this interview was amazing they were careful and companionate and still asked really good questions. Gypsy is so well spoken and comes across very confident her documentary was amazing and this podcast shed a lot more light into who she is and her story. I hope only amazing things happen for her after everything she has been through
Excellent interview and Gypsy is a very intelligent well spoken young lady, she’s so humble and takes accountability, has growth and kindness in her heart. I love the way Nick and Natalie interviewed her with such respect, kindness and understanding.
You took the words right out of my brain. I'm extremely impressed with her. I'm elated for her. Really, really warmed my heart watching this.❤️
I can’t stand Ryan. He’s riding on her fame.
They’re great interviewers. It was so natural and the questions were great. They also let her talk at length. Really good podcast
what makes you think that? so weird. he didnt even have social media before he got with gypsy. hes just a supportive husband. im sorry you dont know how that feels?
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What did I just watch? Gypsy giving relationship advice is top of the crazy of this entire podcast!
Agree 💯
Ok after allll the interviews and lifetime specials, this might have to be the best and most insightful interview with Gypsy this far. She really gives all the answers here in a very chill setting. And you can tell she’s really trying to hold herself accountable for as much as she can rn.
Check out Hidden True Crime with Criminal psychologist Dr. John Mathias & wife, journalist Lauren ! ( if you want a deep dive). Be well ❤
@@TadiKATwill check it out! Thank you ❤️🙏🏽
Def the best one yet!
Yess felt the same❤ amazing
I agree
I'm so annoyed with the people saying that she holds herself accountable... Her favorite line is "Remember, I did not commit the crime, Nich did. He could have made a better decision, I know I asked him to do it but I am not a murderer, I could never had done that, I'am just an accessory" This rhetoric is so stupid and this is EXACTLY why she asked the guy who hear voices to do it!!
It sounds just like if she pulled a gun trigger then said "I know I pulled the trigger but I didn't kill my mom, the gun did" its just as stupid... People are falling for her manipulations. She's fame and money hungry and it's given to her on a platter. If she came out and lived a quiet, discreet lifestyle out of the limelight I could have trusted her more. Gypsy is like her mother... both smart and troubled.
You know nothing about her as a person but you do know of her struggles. No compassion but just judgement, I think you take is awful and accounts for zero nuance.
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Literally. And the way she tries to make prison sound like it was easy and a fun place with parties so it looked like she didn’t really go to jail…. She’s disgusting
@@jadamcCompassion? For someone who groomed and manipulated a disabled young man with autism and mental illness on disability payments? For 2 years!! She lured him into BDSM (yes it was Gypsy who coerced him into this sadistic fetish not the other way around) and used sex to keep him on her hook. She gaslit him, she used passive aggressive emotional blackmail and triangulation to make sure he stayed on track to carry out her request (order) for the brutal murder of her own mother. “Oh I loved my mother, I didn’t want her dead, I just wanted to be out of that house.” Give - Me - A - Break.
I’m honestly mind blown at how eloquent, mature and self aware she is, not only for someone who endure a tremendous amount of trauma, but a “regular” person.
My thoughts exactly!
I totally agree, like I am shaking my head how intellegent speaking she is? I have been following her, since I saw I think on 2020, or some crime show one night, and I was in hysterics seeing it. I was heart broken when I saw her got arrested? That was so OMG for me? And now seeing her here and out of prison, just is AMAZING, and I am so happy for her, that God has given her a chance to have a life now?
Imagine who she could’ve been back then without her evil mother. Im glad she is finding success now
She's so regular it's crazy she's quirky and cute I wish her the best. I can only imagine the type of person she would of been if none of this past tragedies would of happened
Level 10 charisma, I’m jealous lol
this was very enjoyable. i’m glad how you guys just asked her normal everyday fun things and didn’t just focus on her story. i’m sure she really appreciated just sitting down and talking like a normal person with you guys. much respect
It seems like Gypsy’s step-mom is such a good support person for her 🥺❤️
She said she’s the mom she’s always wanted and I’m happy for her
I adore her step Mom Kristy. She is Gypsy's rock.
I agree! Kristy needs recognition too! She seems amazing for Gypsy! The kind of mom she needed! ❤
If you watch Gypsy’s new docu-series your heart will melt!! Kristy is such a sweetheart, Gypsy calls her Mom, she said she was her mother figure, and the first thing Kristy did when Gypsy got locked up was put her hand to her hand on the glass barrier and tell her she loves her 😢❤
@@ktoo303where can I watch this??
Love seeing prison actually reforming someone. She took complete advantage of what counseling they offered. Went in as a child, and came out a woman. Lots of love and respect for her. She doesn't put blame on anything, she owns her actions and has grown from it. Kudos
No she don't!!! Are you blind?! What's wrong with everyone. How can she be so happy , this is all only bc she manipulated a disabled guy to kill her mother so she can get away with all this .... This was all on her!
Whilst I agree with you on everything but what about Nick? Sure he had some dark thoughts.. but everyone does .. doesn’t mean we act on them.. i mean as much as I am supportive of her I think she definitely encouraged him in some way to do it…
@@thatgirl9532I agree....and to top it off he is mentally challenged...he has autism and because of that, I think it probably was a lot easier for her to manipulate him into doing it. He had never really had a true relationship with a girl before and thought he was madly in love with her. I think she could've got him to do basically ANYTHING because of that and I think she knew that.
@@thatgirl9532I agree....and to top it off he is mentally challenged...he has autism and because of that, I think it probably was a lot easier for her to manipulate him into doing it. He had never really had a true relationship with a girl before and thought he was madly in love with her. I think she could've got him to do basically ANYTHING because of that and I think she knew that.
@@thatgirl9532He had a history BEFORE Gypsy.
You can just HEAR the therapy Gypsy Rose has been doing - in the way she talks… It’s amazing. So happy for her!
She's happy because she's free.
Legit question - how do we know her responses aren’t a result of a coaching by a good lawyer and publicist? There are a lot of ppl in the world who go to therapy and have learned the lingo but it doesn’t mean there’s deep change. Only time will tell.
@@heythere4469 I highly doubt her publicist has quizzed her on what to say to a woman who’s struggling with her husband’s newfound sex drive but that’s just me!
@@heythere4469 Agree with the person above just because I don’t believe Gypsy Rose is a horrible human however the fact that she didn’t even try to protect/advocate for the boyfriend who murdered her mother… she might not have done it but she encouraged him come on!! 🙄
@@heythere4469you’ve got a point. Don’t forget she had a lot of that with her mom. But it’s possible therapy has helped her learn to think for herself and not let others control and manipulate her.
Nick and Natalie handled this interview with such care and compassion❤ thank you for being so vulnerable Natalie ❤️
Gypsy absolutely DID NOT have counceling while in prison. This fact was in her own documentory.
I am a lawyer and I cannot believe any lawyer WOULDN'T take this case!
Same. I think it's because she still attached to the stigma of conspiring to kill her mother, so a lot of lawyers are iffy about it which is not right though because these doctors need to be held accountable.
Same. I think it's because she still attached to the stigma of conspiring to kill her mother, so a lot of lawyers are iffy about it which is not right though because these doctors need to be held accountable.
I immediately thought of Kay Van Wey who handled the malpractice cases for the victims of Duntch aka Dr Death in Dallas. It was the first time a Dr was convicted for things that happened in the OR
One eventually will. It's probably best to let the heat settle down around her for a little bit anyway. She needs to just relax and settle into her new life for a while before bringing more stress into like a lawsuit.
I wonder if it’s not only the stigma but also just the overwhelming large amount of doctors who contributed TO the malpractice. All of this originated in Louisiana and DeeDee said records were lost during Katrina and regardless of how accurate and true those records are or are not, they may actually be lost. 🤷🏻♀️ However the specific neurologist from Mercy Hospital in Springfield Missouri SHOULD be held liable criminally and have his license revoked. He acknowledged the presence of munchausens, documented it, and then backed up his excuse for failure to report. He’s a MANDATED reporter. A negative muscle biopsy, clear and unremarkable scans, normal reflexes, and no lower extremity atrophy SCREAMED munchausens and he flat out ignored it.
I’m so glad she chose to be interviewed by Nick. He’s the best. What a great thing for his channel and the whole world to hear her story, in her words. We love you Gypsy!!! And great job Nick!!!
Confused y two women are introducing it....
It was just an intro/preview of a new podcast coming.
She's does interviews with anyone that asks lol
The way y’all answered that viewer about her husband’s sex drive was so good and I couldn’t agree more. Marriage isn’t always going to be easy and communication and compromise is so important 💗
Out of all the interviews I’ve watched with Gypsy, this was by far the best. Your questions were so appropriate and created such a naturally comforting space for Gypsy and Ryan.
For sure when people haven’t experienced trauma with their parents, they tend to think you must hate them, but it’s actually so much more complex of a relationship. I definitely see where she’s coming from.
Why are people overlooking the fact that she said in the lifetime documentary that she picked up a bb gun(thinking it was a real gun) and shot her mom multiple times but in this podcast she claims that she could never bring herself to actually kill? She may have been abused but this girl is a master manipulator,a liar and unable to truly take accountability for her actions. I wish people stop treating her like a celebrity.
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Blows my mind 😮
Can't believe so many people are blinded.
I feel the same way. She was raised to lie, cheat, steal, & manipulate everyone to get what she wants. All of this attention & money she's receiving is just gross & wrong. I won't give a view/my social media currency to anything that's connected to her directly
It’s so easy to deceive people, she’s just putting on a show and I don’t get how people can’t see it. The body language…
I would say insurance companies need to be held accountable. Drs do not communicate to each other but insurance companies know and approve EVERYTHING. The fact that there was not some sort of red flag to protect her is so sad. Thank you for having Gypsy and being so kind to her. She deserves so much love, support and for her voice to be heard.
Absolutely. Blaming a Doctor who got to see her once with documentation and a mother stating this is true while Gypsy was trained to play the part is insane. Granted there are bad Doctors just as there are bad people in every occupation but to blame them all is wrong. Thank God Doctors don't automatically assume we are abusing our kids when they see our kids.
They won’t cuz she was on Medicaid (MO Healthnet) highly doubt they would be held accountable, not sure how status of limitation works for Medical Malpractice in Missouri or Louisiana though, I believe she can still sue.
I’d love if she decided to start advocating for reform on this issue.
You’re so right!
So true. One of my kids records were once lost and they were acting like my kid needed every single vaccination again. I said, well just get the records from the health insurance. And that is when I found out that health insurance companies don't even keep record of what vaccinations they pay out on. I was absolutely shocked, it makes no sense whatsoever. They can be getting scammed by doctors offices too, so it makes no sense on any level.
makes me admire her even more the fact that she's using her platform to advocate for change. she could've just laid low and moved on with her life (and trust me she's EARNED it) but instead she's there trying to be a beacon of hope to so many victims. brave woman!
I agree with you
She’s also a murderer/hitwoman so
So brave!!! I said the same thing, she could have changed her name and went on live in the silence and I agree she definitely deserves it, but instead she’s shining a light on something that a lot of people have never even heard about! I’ve never been more proud of someone I don’t even know.
OOF I pray 🙏 you don't get conned / swindled in life truly - bc your comment worries me 😮
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I have to say, Nick and Natalie have really come into their own with these interviews. So comfortable, respectful and really great questioning and letting people answer. Bravo!!
You can tell she’s done a lot of self work post crime/escape. I hope she gets to do the activist work she wants to. It’s honestly amazing she’s alive.
I love this interview. But, Ryan, if you're seeing this, let your woman talk without trying to interrupt or talk over her, especially when it's her story. Other than that, I think they're cute together and this interview is awesome. I love the way he stands up for her
I had this dynamic with my husband - I think Ryan is just so enthusiastic about Gypsy that he can't help but want to talk, talk, talk. He doesn't solely do this with Gypsy either; this seems to be his communication default. I have to work really hard not to do this, as taking turns in conversation when I'm knowledgeable or enthused about a subject is not my strong point. You can see he comes from a good place & wants the best for her & for them both. I wish them the very best.
I felt like he did it more to defer her from talking about things he didn't want her talking about.
I didnt even notice but i went back and watched. It seems he is just excited. It also wasnt gypsys story that he was interupting. It was both their story. I think this is pretty normal for a new couple because people get so happy and excited. You can see it on their face. I cant imagine them being so calm and taking turns talking like they had been together doing a podcast for years. People would think they arent into eachother at all. Its not like he was trying to be rude and talk over her. He was just excited to talk about their life together. Sorry he broke a podcast rule and you couldnt understand them both talking at the same time.
@@angieeemmmariethats odd. Because he was talking about the exact same thing she was. Just adding in details she was missing. Like with the probation officer. I feel bad for you if thats really how you feel. You must look at everything in a negative light😢
@@LovelyRuthieexactly
Wellllllll this bit where they spoke about Ken really didn't age well... imma need nick to talk about this soon 😂
Still watching but she’s so well spoken. I love the self awareness and accountability.
Yet she still has zero remorse for Nick spending life in prison for doing the crime she masterminded and coerced him into doing. They should both be locked up.
@@umokay5516lol she took a plea, he didn’t
@@pixiefrogbb and? Has nothing to do with what I said.
@@umokay5516it is not like Nick did not have any decision in this. It is shown that he had several violent ideations.
Why would she had remorse for him 😂? As she said she was part of the plan to murder her mother but did not did it so stop acting dumb , try raising your IQ@@umokay5516
Definitely the best interview with Gypsy I’ve seen so far! Her responses are so professional and thought out.
this was honestly the best podcast I watched with Gypsy. I really did such an amazing job during this interview. I feel like gypsy really did such a great job, expressing the growth that has taken place in her life over the past almost a decade. Hands down best interview Ive watched.
My psychology class touched briefly on munchausen by proxy and used Gypsy’s case as an example and even said her case is really what brought it to light.
So true I’ve never heard of MBP before this case.
@@ferwasborn4thisi’ve heard of it it’s not uncommon sadly
@@twilit that isn't true. It's incredibly uncommon, it's not a typical, common mental disorder like anxiety, depression, bipolar. You will rarely cross a parent with munchausen by proxy tbh
@@corablah9809what is your expertise in this area to be able to say that?
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Unfortunately, I think you’re mistaken. I’d do some research on this disease. 180,000 reported patients of MBP is literally too many.
You can tell she’s done a lot of reflection on all aspects of her crime and this is one of the better interviews with her I’ve seen
Take a shot every time ryan says "It was one of those where..." 😭
Cheers 🍻
I’m so glad Gypsy has a good step mom to show her that mother love she deserves 🥺 seems like she’s gotten a second chance at a mom!
Blown away by how well spoken and insightful she is. Amazing
Same!
Why is every second comment about how well spoken, or articulate, or intelligent she is? She always was, the innocent sick child part was an act! She was 23 at the time of the crime and extremely intelligent.
The BEST almost 2 hours I’ve spent in a long time. This was a great podcast for Gypsy and Ryan to come on to! Praying for Gypsy to have the most normal life from here on out. She is a true survivor with one hell of a story.
She was so well spoken and mature. This is the first interview I’ve watched her do and was happily surprised. Great job Nick and Natalie being so thoughtful with your questions. Loved it! ❤
saying she does associate with being called a “murderer” couldn’t be more manipulative. she claims to not be able to kill, but she plotted her mother’s whole murder, step by step, and cleaned up the aftermath, but still can’t take accountability. she might not have done the ACTUAL killing, but all of the premeditation was done by her. she continues to be manipulative, as she places all the blame on nick and claims to not be a killer.
Facts. Does it confuse u how so many seem to idolize her or is that just me? I read those transcripts and watched interviews of her interrogation..she a great actor, but saying she really is shy and hates attention after all her interviews and appearances on tv etc.? Well, she ain't fooling all of us.
I wanted to physically vomit within the first few minutes of this interview. Stating she only asked him, she spent two years emotionally manipulating him! Then saying she wasn’t involved in the actual killing as if that’s completely fine and normal! Then to laugh and joke about having ‘mommy issues’ she is a disgusting sociopath 🤢
Exactly . Nick wouldn’t have commited the murder if she had never brought it up or instructed him to kill her mother. She took advantage of how much he loved her and put the whole blame on him. I find it weird that people are idolizing her because at the end of the day yes she was suffering because of her mom but she could have gone and look for help some where else. She is in fact a murderer.
This interview is great but I definitely think she could handle the response to nick differently. From what I heard, nick has an IQ of 70, has Asperger’s, and did recommend they not kill her mom, but she insisted. She is not taking accountability for that part. I don’t believe she should be in prison for life. It sounds like she is making a lot of progress and trying to take accountability, but is not quite there in terms of what she says about nick.
@@alyshaalberts5694yes .. agree on this .. i think people are more focused on the abused she received and how she is thriving now despite that. But still we should not minmize her involvement of the murder of her mother
36:56 this part kinda bothers me because on The View she said "i am a murderer." She is the one who told Nick that she wanted him to kill her mom. She stole the knife from walmart, researched methods, instructed Nick via video on where her moms bed was....she IS a murderer just as much as Nick is. Saying Gypsy isnt a murderer is like saying Charles Manson isnt a murderer because he wasnt the trigger/knife man. Don't like that...
Actually Charlie wasn’t a murder either and no proven he told them to do it imo
because her lies are catching up with her... I think she actively participated in the stabbing
manipulation at the finest and seems to be working on 90% of these fools who watched this interview and still side with a murderer while being in denial
Yeah, she seems like she’s backtracking and trying to make herself look as blameless as possible as far as the murder
@maddieboggs1040 I think so too. Things are not adding up. Why did Nick insist that he only stabbed 4 times? He was adamant. Something is fishy. Nick did say he had a secret that he was gonna take to the grave with him....he said that gypsy didn't stab her mother but what if one of her PERSONAS did?? I could see this happening.
Gypsy and Natalie, thank you for being vulnerable and sharing your story of SA. We love you and stand by you ❤❤❤❤❤❤
A lot of us have SA stories unfortunately.😢
@@Monkey-fc9nchey. I don’t know you but I’m sending you lots of well wishes and positivity your way!
@@Monkey-fc9ncI also don’t know you but I’m healing right with you💜🕺🏼
I read somewhere that 97% of women have been sexually harassed at some point in their life.
I’ve thankfully never experienced that, but I stand by you & wish you all healing❤️❤️❤️
For someone who hasn’t had much education… she really speaks well. Shes had time to go through therapy & become who she wants to be . You can tell she’s really thought about everything & she aware of what’s happening. This was the best interview she’s done. Yes I saw her documentary where she didn’t understand why her parole officer wanted her to leave the state … She just needed time to realize Yes you are free to socialize in the Real world & become a civilian again BUT you aren’t legally free just yet. Once’s she’s legally free she’ll have all the time to truly enjoy that accomplishment.
You're right. She probably used to hear her narcissistic mother talking 24/7. I bet her mother had a very large vocabulary.
@@Thesantanders while in prison she did get an education luckily…
Shes had a lot of practice manipulation. Learned from mom and then went to prison to learn more manipulation techniques from others. She was a smart girl naturally but was raised in toxic environment. Reminds me of Megan Markle 😮
what makes you think she doesn't have much of an education??
@@jazzypoops Good question. She could have studied while locked up.
This is my first interview listening to her, I hope Gypsy takes care of herself and also puts up boundaries against interview questions if they trigger her later (can you share your recurring murder dream, how would you have protected yourself from your mom when you were little). We aren't entitled to know all these inner things about her if it's uncomfortable 💜
People keep criticising Ryan but to be honest I see how Gypsy would be so in love with him. Even the man's voice is soothing. Can you imagine after allllll of the chaos she's been through, meeting someone whos calm, slow to anger, quietly confident, genuinely loyal, willing to go to therapy etc.
They're very yin and Yang. It's a lovely balance. They're so unbelievably sweet together. ❤
He does have a great voice👍
his voice is actually amazing !
True people are just shallow to talk about anybody
He literally looks like Dee Dee and she never matured while she was in prison. He's dating an evil child.
Why do you think he's In love with gypsy? Just wondering. Cause I think that's what people are criticizing the most.
Thank you guys for being so delicate and kind to ryan and gypsy, truly a beautiful and positive interview, congrats!
I think Ryan and Gypsy should have a podcast. Ryan’s voice and accent is super soothing and of course both of them are awesome
YES
Yes,yes,and yes!
I agree!
Nah, she does not need ryan.. on a podcast
right !
It’s so nice seeing gypsy be able to hold someone’s hand properly and not having to watch what she has to say and her hand be squeezed ❤
She’s had ten years to practice saying the right things. She’s known she was being released for two years and she has masterfully planned all that is happening. She’s a planner, her mother was a planner and neither of them were stupid.
Finally, an intelligent comment.
She was a child when her mum was telling her to act sick. A child doesn't know better it's her only reality at that point and trusts caregiver. She didn't know her own age and was told to believe she's younger than reality, her judgement was compromised. Even if Gypsy did learn manipulation by watching her mum do it and taking instructions from her mum to do it, even if she knows how to manipulate by watching mum and taking instructions from mum, she can still choose to act Right and Good now that she is on her own.
Gosh you'd believe anything!!! @@asmrrecipes7280
💯💯💯💯 FACTS !!!!!! 💯💯💯💯
@@asmrrecipes7280 She absolutely knew how old she was.
She was 23 when she killed her mother
Nick and Natalie did such a good job, showed true compassion and care and gave a safe space for Gypsy to open up.
Gotta say - Gypsy’s husband has a NICE voice! He sounds like he can sing, right? So glad she is happy and thriving. Go Gyspy!
I agree!! So happy for her 😊
@learose4579 me too I'm very happy for her and he seems like a person who has love and compassion for her
that was the first thing i noticed about him when he came on the mic too. i've heard him in interviews w/ her before but never noticed how deep and lovely his voice is.
I think hes psycho maybe we will see
I think it’s normal to be skeptical because of the situation. But hopefully he’s not and it just happens to be a unique way of meeting. 🤞 I wish well for them.
It’s obvious she’s done a lot of work, so hopefully as they join lives, no huge red flags appear. And if they do, she’s able to do what’s needed.
Am I the only person here disturbed by Gypsy Rose giving marriage advice when her and her husband have only spent the last 7 DAYS together?? WTH do they know about what it’s like to be in a marriage yet?? Many things about her disturb me but I commend her for finding a way to “sensationalize” and “monetize” on her situation. It’s obvious she has had a lot of coaching on how to respond to certain questions. Her 15 min are up now. Bye girl Bye 🙄
After everything being said about this couple, this interview was so enlightening. Ryan and Gypsy seem like such genuine people. Ryan seems like the perfect man for her. Gypsy taking full responsibility for her mistakes. She has done such amazing work on herself. Im praying for such a peaceful, joyful life for them!
If a man isn’t as supportive as Ryan, I don’t want him!!! 😻❤They both warm my heart!!
gypsy is truly incredible. the effort she has put into her healing and well-being is so evident.
it's so crazy to think about everything she went through and how well and quickly she has acclimated.
shes seriously so strong and i can see it in every persons face who has interviewed her so far, the like pure amazement of her and the GROWTH
Ryan looks like a big gentle giant . He seems so sweet!
I agree and I really hope they work out
weird comment
he wasn't sweet in the documentary during their phone calls and probably wasn't sweet when she was trying to get the annulment
She tried to get a annulment?
@@boomeradley8748why would he be sweet during an annulment? Thats weird to point out.
Gypsy Rose was tormented & tortured, physically, mentally and emotionally, from the moment she entered this world, by the one person on this earth that should have protected and cared for her. Her understanding and ability of being able to tell right from wrong HAD TO BE skewed beyond recognition at the time she was involved in the planning of this crime. She did her best in finding herself and healing herself in prison. That should tell everyone all you need to know about how bad her life was before she was sent to prison, if prison was where she matured and healed. The idea she doesn’t still hold any ill will towards her mother is simply amazing.
I am wishing her all the best in the world, she deserves to live a peaceful life, for the first time in her life. She deserves any attention she wants too. She mostly deserves for people to stop judging her as if she’s some character in their favorite TV show, she’s a real person, not a character you get to control. She doesn’t owe any of you any-damn-thing. This young woman has the world ahead of her now, and I hope beyond all hope she makes the best of it.
ACTUALLY it is the total opposite for me . I wonder if her upbringing was as bad as she says because she sounds very confident and well spoken here , inquisitive etc....You just don't change your entire personality in prison for 8yrs surrounded by mostly people lying, conniving, stealing, backstabbing, scamming, harmful , killing etc...and come out a new solid person . It seems she has had some , atleast , home schooling and made to feel confident, well spoken and intelligent ....that just doesn't come from doing time surrounded by felons .
It is a miracle that someone from this small town from this dysfunctional family who was put in an impossible situation at such a young age came through it with such grace, such a grasp on her situation. She OWNS her accountability, seems so incredibly kind and sweet and down to earth, communicates so clearly and with humility and poise and ease despite everything she has been through. I find so much joy in her freedom that now gives her a platform to share her perspective and her candidness. She deserves to be recognized and forgiven and appreciated for all the light and awareness she will bring to MPB and its victims.
She’s so well-spoken and genuine. Especially how she addresses her ex being in prison.
I agree with you
Amazing she pretended to have the mind of a 6 year old then hop on a computer at night and be a grown woman
Very sad to think she felt free in prison for the first time. For never going to school she is very smart
@@halfdutchess651her mom also drugged her so she couldn't really function and people thought she was mentally impaired.
The doctors are the worst part of this story.
Treating an abused child with surgery & prescriptions is very scary.
Deedee drugged her to create the symptoms. Her medicine cabinet labeled medications with what they are for and side effects. I read that Deedee was a trained nurse.
100%! If they would’ve done their jobs instead of just listening to her mother, tons of those medical procedures wouldn’t have been done
And so many of them! They completely failed this girl.😢
Right! And obviously very thankful for medicine and doctors, but it really does show how it's a profit industry. They make money off people being sick and staying sick. Their job isn't to get to the root cause, it's to treat it (throw prescriptions at it). Ugh, Poor Gypsy!
Not advocating for the doctors because I definitely agree but remember the found stolen script pads in her house. Which means dee dee was writing her own scripts for gypsy. That is also scary!
Gypsy is so well spoken, sweet and I can tell she really has a big heart. You both treated this with care, kindness and respect. I’m a new subscriber and I just have to say out of all the interviews with Gypsy, your interview is the best. You both are the perfect example of how to handle such a delicate situation. Good job to all of you and I’m so proud of Gypsy. I’m happy she has people that truly love her in her life, and I wish her all the best ❤
Hands down, the best people to interview Gypsy & Ryan!!
I really enjoyed this episode. Being fully transparent, I wasn't subscribed before this episode, and I'm so glad I am. I love the productivity of the conversations, the way Nick guides the conversations with his guests, and how much insight/perspective he shares. So good! Also, Natalie... drop dead gorgeous and super down to earth. Hope she becomes a regular.
Can we please have Gypsy and Ryan back on?? I feel like yall oddly mesh so so well and this was such a good listen ❤
I think Gypsy has a lot of compassion to offer to the world. We need people like her.
Seriously? She's a murderer! This is insane.
nobody needs a murdering liar
28:20 listening to this on speaker whilst cleaning and I have to keep stopping to take a minute. I am so moved by this woman’s courage and the way she speaks. My 17 year old watched the act with me and I’m sharing this with her. I am so proud of gypsy. She is an inspiration and I don’t give a sh!t what anyone has to say ❤❤
only 19 min into this and I am loving it - she’s so well spoken, yall are having such great conversations!
Extremely well spoken and very lady like.
She seems super chill after being in prison almost nine years but like she said at least she wasn’t confined and had friends but wow mature and well spoken, actually has herself together and happily married. Love that for her, she deserves this happy ending after everything
Gypsy seems so genuine and sweet!! I’m glad she gets to live her life now🩷
Agreed ❤
So impressed by how self aware, informed, and well-spoken Gypsy is. Nick asked a great question about whether we should be holding her doctors accountable. Their dialog immediately made me think of the ‘Take Care of Maya’ doc on Netflix and how skewed the other side of this conundrum really is (and for good reason). It was a relief hearing Gypsy herself bring the doc up and the imbalance her tragic case inevitably contributed to. Her current awareness and understanding of the nuisances of MSP paired with her high-profile advocacy is going to change lives. Appreciate the pod and overall thoughtfulness to this interview.
Timestamp?
@@purplepills3The conversation about doctors accountability starts at 38:18 but the part about the documentary take care of Maja is at 41:44
You watch a lot of documentaries, don't you?
Great interview. Also, love the backdrop. It looks so professional and not a distraction. Gypsy and Ryan seem real. Glad she is on the right path.
This is refreshing, I’m barly 15min into this video and I finally get to hear her now and to what she wants to do! Not so much her past 😊 she’s matured so much! I’m so proud of how much she has accomplished and I wish her nothing but the best! ❤
The fact that Gypsy is so graceful and articulate having never been in a classroom, is stunning. She is a true testament to survival!! I see big things in her future. ❤
She turned down therapy in prison. She doesn't think she's done anything wrong. She's in a permanent delusional state with way too much emotional immaturity.
Also really nice to see Gypsy and her husband and hear more about their story. I think many of us are skeptical of anyone who reaches out to someone in jail/prison. Dating is so hard, regardless, and it’s tough to know someone, even when dating in a traditional way. They seem to have a good start and I wish them all the best as they navigate the next chapter of their relationship.
I love watching Gypsy and Ryan glance at each other like they have an inside joke. I am pulling for you Gypsy and wish you so much happiness!!
I have absolutely no respect for someone who doesn’t take responsibility for her actions, especially regarding Nick. Who says that about a boy who’s not capable of making rash decisions! He’s NOT a typical man who would suggest doing the right thing. Although I feel bad for her entire situation, she needs therapy and is definitely an accomplice to murder regardless of rather the state recognizes it or not
Thank you!
Yes, she is definitely an accomplice to murder, and it seems like she likes to downplay this. She DID take advantage of someone who doesn’t seem to have the mental capability to make proper decisions.
I just don’t like how she brushes off that she really didn’t do much when it comes to being involved in murder
I would do a lot of research on Nick before you start defending him he had a lot of dark fantasies. Again im not supporting either of them but he does is where he needs to be.
I just want to start out by saying im a new veiwer of The Vial Files! And i love it and appreciate how well Nick handled this interview! Gypsy is very well spoken and i feel that this interview really showed that she is taking responsibility and i think thats what people needed to hear! Look forward to seeing her live her best life!
Nick & Natalie handled this interview so well. Gypsy is so well spoken& her mannerisms are amazing.
I’m glad she’s actually using the tools she has available to become better and understand why what happened was wrong and other things.
My mom was extremely controlling until my now husband and his grandparents helped me get out with my daughter at 22.
I understand how she still loved her mom but needed to get out of that situation and it’s hard af.
This type & style of interview is what I was looking for. I really enjoyed it.
Nick and Nat clearly made this a fun interview for Gypsy. Great job after she’s had to go through a media tour: I’m sure it took a toll, and this seemed like a breath of fresh air for her. I’m wishing her so much happiness.
And looking forward to hearing about where you guys go on your double date!
She hasnt HAD to. Shes CHOSEN to and shes clearly enjoying it. Its ridiculous
@@WelcomeToOurJourneyShe’s using the opportunity to speak for herself since everyone else has told her story for her. She has every right to do that (and want that). Not to mention, she probably needs the money.
I love this lady that called in for advice and was so vulnerable. This is not anything so many couples deal with. Kudos to her 🥰
ABOUT TIME you are going to talk about this paternity scandal! Better late then never. Dave (and Steve) have been the only 2 people to have the courage to support Clayton during this time. Nick, with your following, this will hopefully bring more eyes to the case and get the justice Clayton (and Dave) deserve!!
YES! And this is absolutely true crime! A case that is “truth stranger than fiction.” It doesn’t have to be a violent crime. I’ll tune in to this show for the first time for the Clayton interview.
I was really uncomfortable with the question about Gypsy’s first experience of sexual intimacy with her husband. I wondered why this is something we feel we have a need or a right to ask of someone. If she had offered to share this of her own volition, that would be different. This is coming from someone who is very open discussing and engaging sexually. But this oh so vulnerable moment of coming together of two people, especially one with Gypsy’s past of being sexually exploited -it’s not our business to ask to be privy to the story. Certain human experiences have elements of the sacred.
She brought it up
but then they dug deeper and asked again@@JadeIsraeal
she’s obviously comfortable talking ab her sex life apparently that d is fire🤣
she shared what she was comfortable sharing and went ont o other things and they were like wait nope tell us more about that@@JadeIsraeal
@@JadeIsraeal Did she? I must have missed it. That would change things.
I think gypsy has come across so well in the media. I can’t imagine what she’s been through before and during prison etc but to be so self aware and open like she is she’s doing so well I wish her nothing but happiness, health and love for the future
Lmaoooo. That’s funny 😂
I wish the absolute best for Gypsy and Ryan. She’s turned into an amazing young woman and has her whole life ahead of her 🖤
54:07 “I’m the man I’ll adapt she can make it her own” I love to hear that
I am shocked by this interview and very impressed by how well Gypsy's listens and answers the questions. The change def shows through. Great job landing this interview!
I feel like she should get a job as maybe a host on a radio show or some sort of talk show or something honestly. She definitely is very well spoken and relatable.
Yes, I mean 8 yrs ago when she was in the interrigation room with the detective talking about Disney World etc. What a difference .
Great job to all! It was a very interesting episode to watch. Kept me up past my bedtime. She is so well spoken and comfortable for someone who has dealt with so much! And your chemistry was very relaxed and symbiotic. The only thing I was wondering was if you or Gypsy were uncomfortable sitting so close to each other. I was waiting for someone to bump someones legs or mic stands haha.
Such a great episode. Gypsy has so much self awareness and she deserves this second chance at life. I wish her and Ryan a long, happy, fulfilled life together!
I feel she needs to take more responsibility for the death of her mother. She is the reason her mother is dead, Nick wouldn’t have done it if Gypsy didn’t insist on it. Yes the way she grew up was fucked up but she fought fire with fire. She definitely is a murderer even if her hands are clean, her gloves aren’t.
This is my first time viewing your channel. I’ve never watched the bachelor so I didn’t know who you were. But I’ve followed Gypsy’s story for many years. This was an incredible podcast! You as interviewers were incredible, and the conversation was incredible. Ryan seems like such a wonderful man. I can see how he is her rock. I’m so happy for Gypsy and her new found freedom. I wish her nothing but the best! It sounds like she has a good head on her shoulders and a fantastic partner to help her along the way. Thank you for an awesome 2 hours!
The way he speaks about her! Protect this man at all costs!
We all are going down this steep rabbit hole with Gypsy and we all know she's not telling the whole world the whole truth of her story.
I feel there's a possible crash coming. There's too much being overlooked
100% she isnt,she's such a manipulated,go listen to the goodwives network
@@anythingcanhappen290She doesn't have to give us every little last detail she owes us nothing what we do know for a fact is she was an abused and tortured child who was finally desperate enough to get out of her situation even though it took murder to do it.
@@sugarsundae3400 no one is asking for the details. Thats not what my statement implied. Im referring to the gullibility of the public but since u brought up the topic of her in that light, people are speaking out. The media is drowning them out to perpetuate whats going on here
@@anythingcanhappen290 So what were you implying ? You didn't make it clear. What are the media doing ?
THIS IS A GREAT EPISODE! Gypsy is amazing!! I'm so proud of her awareness, vulnerability and openness to be better than who she was and consciously doing it!
Loved this!! Gypsy your very well spoken and although have a really unique story, very relatable too. Your so sweet, confident, inspiring and I can’t wait to see what the future holds for you! Wishing you and your husband the best he truly loves you, you can tell and I’m happy y’all can be together now! 🙏🏼💕
Thanks for sharing your story, Gypsy Rose! Sending love. So glad your heart is full ❤ - you deserve that and so much more.
Es increíble verla tan bien, tan desenvuelta, tan bien hablada. Obviamente pagó por lo que hizo, ahora a vivir y recuperar tantos años. Go Gypsy!! Good energy for you ❤️
I don't watch much TV and knew nothing of her story....She is adorable and strong. It is fascinating to see how grounded she is after going through such an awful upbringing. Kudos to her for doing the work to heal her heart and mind, while in jail
AMEN NICK FOR YOUR INPUT ON YOUR ANGER DURING THE DOCUMENTARY OF WHAT WAS DONE TO HER AND WHAT THE DOCTORS DID AS WELL. THANK YOU.
I didn’t know this podcast existed! I absolutely love you two 🙏🏼 I very much appreciate being able to see gypsy and her husband so casual and comfortable. I think this shows how much accountability Gypsy is taking & more of the world needs that quality. I was a little weirded out at first that she went straight to socials out of prison, but this feels very genuine 🙏🏼
This was a fun interview! Good job Nick and Natalie!
I think I was a little iffy about Gypsy and almost felt ppl were glamorizing her story but this interview made me see her in a different light. She’s so well spoken and compassionate. I’m a fan after this interview. I really hope life does her well 💕