Going Deeper with Tom Schwartz & Tom Sandoval & Reality Recap: Bachelor, Traitors, & Superbowl LVIII
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
- Welcome back to The Viall Files: Reality Recap Edition! First, the household gets together to talk about the second episode of the Bachelor, including the first dates of Joey’s season! We also talk about Taylor supporting Travis at his latest game, if she can make it to the Superbowl with her Tokyo Eras Tour shows, and recap Episode 5 of Traitors. Then, we are joined by Tom Schwartz and later Tom Sandoval to talk about their friendship, the affair with Rachel, dating in LA, and what we can expect to see in Season 11 of Vanderpump Rules. Finally, we hear from a Texting Office Hours caller who went on a couple dates before the holidays, but needs help asking him out for a third in the new year.
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Timestamps
00:00 - Intro
05:04 - Nursery Reaction
07:06 - TSwift And The Superbowl
13:40 - Traitors Recap
18:23 - Bachelor Recap
34:50 - Tom Schwartz Begins
01:04:45 - Tom Sandoval Joins
02:05:41 - Texting Office Hours
02:18:41 - The Toms Interview Continued
02:28:18 - Outro
Not Natalie bringing receipts that Nick was on time, unprovoked. Our Queen. 👏🏼
She shines in this episode!
Also telling the Toms in texting office hours they would be great at what not to say 😂
YES!!!!!!!!!!!
Also I noticed her looking at the camera at one point as if to say "can you believe this guy?"
Seriously fucking hats off to Nat in that moment
Where was this part at?! Idk if I missed it
If schwartz had stood up for katie the way he stands up for Tom,they'd still be married
THIS 👏🏼 MF 👏🏼 COMMENT 👏🏼 why he could NEVER stand up for Katie and ALWAYS pull through for Tom I will never understand… astounding
Not to mention the slight moments whenever he finally would it was always against a woman never another guy
💯💯💯🎯
THIS!
I believe in my SOUL Schwartz has bottomed for Sandoval.
KATIE IS A DEBBIE DOWNER SO NO
I never want to hear the words “like” and “dude” ever again fr😂
Ariana does it too. It’s very annoying.
Dude! Like why not?! 😂😂😂😂 jk I totally agree 😂
And this is what like 41 or 42 - maybe 43 yo guy with every other word being like or dude. Hilarious and sad at the same time.
Every second word is “like”. He’s 40 ffs not a teenager, but perhaps he’s lacking in vocabulary skills as much as he is in humility, sincerity and integrity
Wait till he’s 80 and still talking this way
Not Schwartz acting like Sandoval's attorney the whole podcast 🤣
Right! I was thinking he was his handler.
And Schwartz using words incorrectly - lol He needs to get a dictionary app!!
This made me think Schwartz could be a reeeeally good producer
"I'm not here to be a Tom Sandoval apologist!" ~Apologizes for Tom Sandoval entire time~
Literally !
natalie HUNTING DOWN her texts with nick for 20 min is the most relatable
Receipts! Proof! Timeline! Screenshots! Where is Heather Gay when we need her?
This is the craziness of being around a Narcissist. They force you into a situation where you have to provide receipts 🤦♀️
Lmao yessss defend your man
Hahahaha I was dying when she brought that up so lowkey
ICONIC of her
The way Sandoval changes his voice when he’s attempting to sound sincere makes me nauseous
He never was a good actor!
This!!!!
Right! He tried to sound sincere and profound and puts on this voice and demeanour.. but literally snaps out of it immediately when he’s faced with any bit of resistance and backlash. He did this during the reunion too. So cringy.
I’ve never hated him more.
THISSSD
This. Was. PAINNNNNNNFUL to watch. How anyone can be in a relationship or friendship with him is beyond me. Sandoval lives in one world - his own.
Applause 👏 well said. It’s like watching and listening to a narcissist ramble on about HIS WORLD.
I love how much Nick really goes for the jugular but in such a subtle, professional way lol
The dichotomy of Schwartz being actually really articulate and Sandoval speaking like an inarticulate teenager is so funny
It's so hard to watch Sandavol speak.. Schwartz basically has to translate for him because he literally cannot string a coherent sentence together. It's like he's lying as he speaks and realises that story won't get the receiption he wants so he switches up mid sentence and just sounds like a spoilt child complaining. it's so sad cos you can see from this he really hasn't learnt anything and he will do this again.
He’s not articulate. He learned some fancy words so he could slither his way out of every situation. It’s a shtick
I don’t think that’s a schtick…. I heard kempire(psychology background) say he thought Schwartz may be undiagnosed on the spectrum for Asperger’s/autism…. And that makes perfect sense! Also ends up coming across kind of narcissistic at times, esp in relationships such as marriage! Which also makes such sense when you see what the struggles always were there:( all a bummer, hopefully can still look into and do counseling w/katie… see where it could go then…..
As for Sandoval, it’s 2hard to listen where you can tell he’s struggling and point he’s wanting to get to… and he stops himself(like he’s heard over and over…. Dude you say the word like soooo many times! And he hears himself, then f f f he f’t up! How’s that? That’s what everyone wants…. And is flustered no1 can empathize or understand his experience… it’s overall sad… wish I could help
Drinking game, let’s call it ‘black out’, take a shot every time Sandavol says the f word
@@TK-oq9yfor says “like”
1. Natalie shined. Her wit and intellect showed through
2. Nick finally saw what everyone has seen after watching Tom on VPR for 10 yrs
3. Schwartz really is a battered wife, but not from Katie
i am so glad nick is starting to see it... he has a long way to go in VPR lol
This!
Sad but true!
Schwartz bought Sandoval a ring. Sandoval never liked Katie.
Your take is💯
Him saying Nick was two hours late, and then we hear the pod was done at 6:52 - literally proves his habit for revising history.
Yes, I agree - and even when caught, he still does not admit that he was not telling the truth ….
💯
Sandoval says he’s learned SO MUCH, bur when Nick asks, “like what?” he like literally like cannot like name a single thing like. 😂 After listening to a couple episodes of Rachel’s podcast, I think these two deserve each other. ⚡️
I'm not kidding or exaggerating at all, Nick deserves a journalism award for not laughing during Tom's mini tantrums. I was dying over here. He looks so ridiculous.
I was laughing so hard while listening and had to come to RUclips to see their faces while he was breaking down lol.
Exactly!!! Watching Tom start throwing a hissyfit around 1 hour and 44 mins cos Nick and Natalie arnt buying his shit excuses and calling him out is soooo satisfying🎉 They both deserve an award !!
It was actually hilarious I really enjoyed it 😂
Imagine how many of those Ariana had to listen to ? 😂😂
I was laughing my ass off i was like how is anyone there keeping themselves from laughing it’s hilarious
Sandoval has actually become so unhinged. He's either high af or something along those lines but he's so aggressive in his speech and his mannerisms.
I was thinking the same
Genuinely was thinking this the entire time, he doesn’t seem sober and this isn’t drunk behavior
Oh he high afffff went skiing ⛷️ or heavy on the addy lol
Dude dude dude ….. grow up
Could he be playing up his villain arc? Even his pants are filthy here. It feels contrived but maybe he’s this lost.
So Sandoval says “call me at 3am and I’ll bail you out of jail” but can’t answer the phone mid day for the podcast he’s a guest on
Sandoval doesn’t even seem like a real person but a character. Such a bizzare human lol
I was thinking the same thing
I’ve always thought this! He’s always sooo dramatic like he’s always acting…it’s exhausting
The absolute lack of accountability, deflection, blaming, egotistical, narcissistic behaviour, shows he has not changed and never will. He is absolutely on something here as well.
Yes! Absolutely! But, ‘she hasn’t had *** with me for a year’. What a BUM!
Facts!!! Be a NICK not a TOM.
The gaslighting he was doing to Nick about being late to Tom’s show was appalling. Hard to listen to.
I love how nick kept trying to get him to name ONE thing he worked on and changed. Sandoval couldn't name one. When asked what he would do or change in a next relationship he said finding someone who doesn't belittle him. Nothing about how he's changed. He's ridiculous. I don't know how Nick kept it together during this interview. Good job Nick, I would have ate into him.
That's the thing, those with NPD don't change and will never take accountability for their actions. He just fully exposed hisself and let his mask slip for the world to see in this interview though. I pray any future women who thinks of being with him sees this interview first before getting into a relationship with a monster. Narcissists are extremely dangerous and will tear you apart from the inside out... emotionally, spiritually, psychologically, monetarily, and many times physically!
this was so irritating on a tuesday morning - the blatant deflecting and lying about being late, him repeating every question so defensively, telling ariana she has a bad look is RICH coming from him, basically saying he should be credited for her success and she should be grateful while simultaneously saying he’s rooting for her (obviously not), schwartz trying to cut him off and defend him so that sandavol doesn’t keep digging his own grave - it was so unbearable. idk how im gonna get thru this season. he will really never change
I know! 😂 But...
ruclips.net/video/yXrdqNsbZ-c/видео.htmlsi=3m06gSPm_ofMO7K_
Agreed
It's terrible he will never learn.@@Alyssa-ye2co
This 😅 usually love the pod makes the day go by faster feel like this made my morning 700 times slower
Agree, the commentend about the therapy that Ariana should have know. That is bullshit. If he had wannted to break up he should have told her and not make shitty excuses. It is like a bancrobber saying that the bank should have know hé would rob the bank.
I LOVED the portion with just Schwartz. I’d love another episode with just him! He’s so much better when it’s just him.
Totally agree! Very happily suprised with Schwartz!
I really like Schwatz 😊
Schwartz is trash
I wish he recognized that lol
Tom: “I get paid way more for like instagram posts” Natalie: “Still?💀” Tom: No😔
Schwartz’s first words about Katie “she’s judgmental.” Schwartz’s first words about Sandoval “he’s a good guy.” Always so quick to defend Sandoval, or anyone, over Katie
before he called her judgmental, he said she was a hater! WTF is wrong with him?!
You have an excellent point, What Schwartz said about Katie versus what he said about Tom.
Tom and Tom should just get married!
Yup, I thought the same thing.
Truth!! He’s always been like that! It’s like he can’t connect the umbilical cord from sandovals!! I don’t get it! Schwartz does seem like he COULD be a good man! If he rid himself of sandovals baggage he would probably feel lighter and attract more people and make TRUE FRIENDS. Like people like have his back without Sandoval dragging him down. Sandoval is Schwartz’s anchor. My hope is he will see the light and I have a hard time thinking or believing he will cut the cord. It’s really sad. I give Schwartz shir about being up sandovals ass but I do enjoy listening to Schwartz speak! He is a wordsmith and I love that about him. So much smarter than he reveals.
@@buffytvs73I mean cut the cord.. ugh sorry everyone who probably won’t even read this. Lol
Respectfully, I disagree. Birds of a feather flock together. Have you taken note to how he spoke to his ex wife Katie? She has her faults, but 10 out of 10 times he sidex with anyone else over her.@@xkellie79able
Does it irritate anyone else that Sandoval deflects him being late onto Nick being "late" for his podcast without giving any details? AND the fact that he's wearing sunglasses inside?? Just hearing him talk is frustrating me.
Sameeee
Ugh so gross of him! He just sucks!!
He is like nails on a chalkboard. The second hand embarrassment I feel watching this is almost unbearable. It would have been better if he had never shown up. Also making up lies about Nick showing up late is so gross, he is delusional and actually believes his lies.
Then why watch? To complain? Idgi
@@moongurl1978 I watched to see if there was finally going to be any accountability from him for being a gross human and because it is entertaining after all
“I’ve learned to not cheat _THAT_ way” tells me he has learned absolutely nothing.
He said he would cheat if their sex life didn't get better in one of the solo interviews. I need his exact quote bit is damn near just like that. Right then and there, I knew it was a matter of time.
The juxtaposition of Schwartz being so articulate and on PR patrol with Sandoval when all Sandoval used to do was talk over Schwartz and try to speak over him lol
“DO YOU THINK YOU ARE ENTITLED TO HER REASONABLENESS?” Say that again for the people in the back, Nick! 👏🏼👏🏼
I created a RUclips account for the sole purpose of liking this comment. He was unhinged on a whole new level today.
Loved this. 💡
@@ShanaPruitt this comment made my day! Hilarious!!!! 😂😂😂
Seriously a mic drop moment.
Agreed! 👏👏👏
4 things I loved about this:
1. Sandoval freaking out when Nick is just asking a question for clarification
2. Nick and Natalie giving each other little looks throughout the conversation
3. Tom Schwartz, trying not to laugh at Sandoval
4. Sandoval trying to take on Schwartz's personality to sound nicer and failing to keep it going for more than 5 seconds before sounding abrasive
It was classic watching Nick and Natalie tag team him. Highlight of the entire brutal experience. My years are still ringing.
Love this. So true and very perceptive. I wonder if he’d even notice how bad he looks
Nick and Natalie absolutely crushed this interview!!! so professional, such thoughtful and articulate questions, and managed to perfectly control the flow of the interview where other hosts probably would have gotten lost in the chaos and got off track. You always ask the questions people ACTUALLY want to know, as opposed to a lot of other podcasts that land big guests (other hosts often seem too intimated to ask hard questions)...never disappoints! This podcast deserves all the success it is having!
“She hit the breakup lottery”…… The worm with a mustache has entered 2024
I don't know if anything has ever made me more sympathetic towards Kristen Doute than watching Tom Sandoval try to gaslight Nick with the lie that he was late to his podcast lmao
Yes!
Nick and Natalie were pulling up receipts and he still insisted he was late!
The fact that he literally straight up, said he had zero respect for her is brutal
similarly. Have to say that I was pleasantly surprised, watching this podcast, not having ever seen any episodes. But basically seeing him on the bachelor, I had watched I think from the second season on and wasn’t a fan of him and not too long after began to ease off watching series.
he seems much more solid now
@@MzEliseKatrineI mean considering that he "fell for" Rachel who is intellectually completely a 180 from Ariana. He got tired of realizing he was not the smart person in that relationship.
Nick is so iconic for this. This is the interview I've been waiting for. He never let him off the hook. This is just textbook narcissism
Second the "this is the interview I've been waiting for". I honestly don't think anyone could have done a better job than, Nick and Natalie. LOVE THAT NATALIE'S there!
Agreed! I'd actually like to know why Nick says that he thinks Sandavol ISN'T a narcissist
I think after this interview he would say Tom is lol
Sandoval was HIGH AF. I love near the end, nick asking him wtf he's doing and he says "I'm f*cked!" 😂 Yeah you are.
Nick deserves an award for keeping it together! We know why you didn’t ask Sandoval the same question.., he got tired of listening to bs. Lol every word out his mouth was bs… also when he’d just drift off in a word vomit about nothing that had to do with the question. “What happiness look like to you?” “My mom got me this ornament that’s so ugly but she puts it up for me …..” what the eff are you talking about?!?! 😂😂😂
So I interpreted that as Tom still being drunk and the molly/shrooms not totally wearing off, which led to Tom actually giving a genuine answer about what his personal vision of happiness was, and he expressed nostalgia for a pure little American family who loves each other and has traditions. Yet, he dedicates his existence to being a fuckboy, so he'll never get it. The tragedy of Tom.
I LOLd when Schwartz said “I’m not trying to be a Sandoval apologist “ but was in fact apologizing for Sandoval the whole time 😂😂
Literally providing caveats and additions to everythingggg sando said… these two are something else.
Schwartz is like his PR guy. It’s gross
I think he loves his friend and knows Tom sucks at communication especially when he’s frustrated / on something so he was trying to help
Facts and he literally chose Tom over his wife!!!
@@ryandudenhoeffer4479she was not really worth staying married too. Katie is the worst (self righteous, high mighty selfish person) & that’s saying a lot because Sandoval is alive.
“His assistant resigned last week” TEAAAAA INTERESTING
poor Anne😂
I knew we were gonna be in for a whirlwhind pasta'd out bender sandoval appearance
Can you even imagine being his assistant?!
Nick’s former employee Amanda & Tom’s former assistant Ann now have a podcast together
@@candy07831 teaaaa reallly ? What’s it called
He’s not sorry. He keeps digging his own grave. He’s a mess. Holy shit.
The grave keeps getting deeper too!
Sandoval just gaslights Schwartz so he’ll stay by his side, saying how awesome he is and how much he loves him… it’s weird and seems like there’s a motive behind it. And his face when Schwartz and Nick are bonding is just hilarious. The jealousy is wild
I think Sandoval is threatened by Nick. Same age group, but nick has a more successful podcast, better image, and isn’t allergic to growth. I think that was the whole point of him being late was some sort of “power” move
Could not agree more. Excellent points
Absolutely! That’s the exact vibe I got. I enjoyed watching him squirm. Sorry, Sandoval, that’s what a man with integrity looks like.
This and Nick even had a villain era and rebranded. Tom is so triggered by him
100000 percent
It was his teenage mind saying, he was late for me so I'll be late for him. Pathetic and petty loser.
I think I want them to bring back Schwartz as a guest but on his own and have him have a solo episode because I actually enjoyed him as a guest. Like the way nick and Natalie and tom were talking and interacting before Sandoval got there was actually really good and I actually enjoyed it. I don't know
I agree, I’d like to see Schwartz on his own solo podcast with Nick. He was phenomenal.
@@jennifer6833 the way he was answering questions I thought it was good. I want more of this
I also want to hear what he has to say when Sandoval isn’t right there breathing over his shoulder! Schwartz caters to Sandoval & what he wants to hear when he’s around but I feel like he feels differently & even more levelheaded when other Tom isn’t around !
YES…. Sandoval ruined this.. He also needs to stop going on podcasts he doesn’t have any self awareness
Me too! I really liked the bit of time it was just him. Shows how much Sandra T really influences him.
The low “authentic voice” is actually crazy 😂
I saw the comments about it before I got to it and omg it’s so much worse than I thought
It really is,I mean he’s trying to come off as having a sincerity and authenticity he doesn’t have.Instead he sounds like a parody of an inauthentic person,like a character in a SNL skit.But the fact that he’s doing it with zero percent irony is creepy as fuck.
Nick should replace Andy for all Bravo reunions!! He’d kill it, especially with the Housewives.
OMG YES!!!!!!
Truuu
Or Love is blind host
Please god no.
Totally agree!!
Natalie observing this madness is my favorite part 😂💀 her trying to hide her facial expressions
I wanna see those texts to whomever she’s texting 😂
Sandoval - "I don't want to dishonor Ariana, but hold my beer."
Schwartz - "I'm not here to make excuses for Sandoval, but hold my beer."
Seriously 😂
😂😂😂
Shwartz looks like the sober friend trying to not throw his unsober friend under the bus and save the situation to make them both look okay
Spot on
Not looks...it's exactly wuts happening
He 100% blames Ariana for treating him badly for 9 years (?)..... and he still is lying about the 8 months he was with Rachel. Sandoval still does not understand. Like like like like dude dude like like dude dude dude dude like OMG !
I have to agree with him though when it comes to Ariana:: she did suck in the relationship.
Still doesn’t give him the right to cheat, lie to her and make her susceptible to STDs @@joannaLeboy
@@joannaLeboy do you know them personally?
@@joannaLeboyTom dear you don’t need to come with another account
The way Nick and Natalie handled this podcast shows they are more than ready to be parents 😂 y’all will crush your child’s teenage years and their emotional rollercoasters and impulsivity
😂😂😂
😂😂😂
honestly tho!
Nick tried so hard to help him in this interview, but of course he just saw it as an attack and spent the whole time defending his actions. Tom S is so clueless!! This is why I wanted Nick to do this interview in the first place. Well done, Nick, on not letting him deflect and talk around every issue.
I love how u said Tom S like both of their last names don’t start with an S
@@mallorybarnett1750 bahahahaha, good point LOL. S = Sandoval in this case.
Anyone notice that Tom is the one bitching constantly about Arianna saying she’s the one bitching about him 😂
Seriously, I never see her talking about him unless she has to to promote the new VPR season
Sandoval saying it's not a good look about Ariana being spiteful to him actually backfired and not a good look to him...
Eh he’s right though
@@joannaLeboyyeah but she wasn’t being spiteful, he’s just deflecting
He’s the last person in the world to be telling someone else that it’s “not a good look.” People should be doing the opposite of whatever Sandoval says, thinks or does.
@@joannaLeboy He’s really not lol
The sad (and disappointing) thing of all of this, is that Nick wants Tom Sandoval (both Tom’s) to be able to be understood, have second chances, and share their stories/struggles. Nick knows what it is like to be shown as a villain and empathetic to those who make mistakes, but to learn from them. The fact that Tom Sandoval didn’t use this opportunity, shows his true character. I feel sorry that he doesn’t realize any better. Schwartz on the other hand takes accountability & acknowledges faults/mistakes.
Exactly! I have a lot more respect for Swartz after listening to him, he took total accountability, he articulates himself really well as for Sandoval quite the opposite, yes he says the things people want to hear but it doesn't come across sincere and he still has to put out there excuse and place blame on Ariana.
And he gave them multiple chances to really dig deep and reflect and they’re unable to
Yeah, Sleazeval is bad news.
Am I the only one who noticed Sandoval was struggling? He is not ok. It wasn’t a good time to confront him. I felt uncomfortable watching him get challenged when it seemed he was having trouble holding it together. I think he forgot about the podcast, was on something, and may even have been having difficulties beforehand.
Nailed it. I was actually shocked to see Schwartz taking accountability and trying to reframe what Sandoval is saying, and help him.
This interview was reality TV poetry in motion. Nick handled everyone in that room brilliantly. His tone, his approach, his attitude towards outbursts, his persistence in getting answers.
Let’s see if Sandoval keeps his word and sells the house!
@@irishheart6313 I know right? Nothing this guy says actually sticks so...idk. We'll see.
I will just say that I have always respected how well spoken and articulate Tom Schwartz is.
I could listen to him talk all day.. I think he’s very intelligent and I love intellectual humor .
Nick, thanks for not letting him off without questioning his every comment. He is infuriating. This was the hardest to watch.
Schwartz should go into PR the way he kept speaking for Sandoval.
What’s wild is he usually really sucks at interviews himself lol. But he’s the better of the two, for sure. He kept trying to reframe everything Sandoval said 😂
He literally reframed any and all for Sandoval, it’s like alarming to watch honestly lol
@@emilyaltom628lmao when they proved Nick wasn’t late and Schwartz saw he was wrong so he says “let’s pivot back to our topic”
Exactly! That’s what I was thinking. Very often in this interview Schwartz tried to bail out Sandoval from digging himself a deeper hole, as PR agents do LOL. He did a good job of it a lot of the time too. I feel bad that Schwartz has had to take on that role as Sandoval’s friend.
Schwartz does it without even thinking it’s like breathing for him.
Without a doubt, Tom Sandoval is “not sober” here. His late arrival, his body language, random topic diversions, etc make this undeniable. This is more than “not sleeping” the night before. As a VPR fan from the start, this behavior is odd, at best. Also, Schwartz’s attempts to save him were GLARING on the watch. This was not as apparent on the listen. #unhinged This was really difficult to see.
I hope he doesn’t start losing weight again. Like him or not he’s a human and addiction is scary
Yeah he’s on something for sure.
Kristen Doute said her husband was at Sandoval's drinking the night before this podcast.
He’s hungover/drunkish and high. It’s wildly immature and unprofessional and I feel bad that Schwartz feels the need to protect him FROM HIMSELF.
This interview was disturbing
I was wondering when he was going to take those glasses off too.
Sandoval didn’t make a single complete sentence this whole podcast.
@@zingyflaps7757 like bro, it’s like dude, like i’m like, it’s been, man i dont even know what to say dude.
Nick - you killed it……..You handled it so well. Tom Schwartz please look at this relationship. You are being used and you are enabling his crazy arrogant narcissistic behavior. You are better than that…….
He’s not being used??? TF? Weird take
The fact Sandavol is low-key getting aggressive towards Natalie is pissing me off, like don’t raise your voice at her like that, shut up!
He has no respect for women.
Right!
Unfortunately not surprised. That is often the knee jerk reaction for a person with too many typical narcissistic personality traits (NOT saying he is diagnosed with NPD, just that he reels of many of the TYPICAL personality traits you also display with that). To go to the attack, look down upon or scare by raising their voice, gaslight, deny, shift focus, be TOTALLY lacking in accountability or self awareness, always leading with ego and entitlement. It all reeks from him when adressing her, and talking about his ex. The blame shifting instead of just taking accountability and say, THERE ARE NO EXCUSES valid enough. It is constant. He is not treatable I suspect. He has shown zero growth or ability to JUST take accountability from then to now. So 🤷🏼♀️
He has no respect for anyone but himself IMO
@@jawjaw00ZERO. You’re right. He’s such a weasel worm (with a moustache)
Imagine Ariana staying with him for that long… Does she take any accountability for being with such a POS for so long? 🤣
“Do you think you’re entitled to her reasonable-ness” is the best question you could have asked him. He didn’t get it, but it sums up all of the reasons he needs therapy.
I just can’t believe no one’s mentioning Tom Sandoval stating Ariana was the first girl he actually respected….like WHAT
Almost everything Sandoval said was horrific. No growth there. Sad.
Nick handled this interview beautifully.
This interview was more unhinged than all 10 seasons of VPR put together
LOL TOTALLY
It was absolutely mania
Yeah it needs to win an Emmy
💀💀💀 out of control
The fact that Nick and Tom are in the same age group but light years apart in maturity is crazy to see. Thank you Nick for putting up with Tom for this interview. You did a great job ❤
The way Tom was always trynna get Ariana pregnant like as if he'd be a good parent
Tom being late is another example of how he hasn’t changed. Passive aggressive way of expressing his anger towards someone because he doesn’t have the skill or self awareness to express himself assertively (like breaking up with Ariana and expressing his real emotions toward nick like being made that nick was late to his podcast or feeling worried about doing the interview). Can we also talk about how he has build some fucken phenomenal defenses that are seriously keeping him from having self-awareness and growing. I hope he has a good therapist and he sticks through it.
As much as I want to have some empathy for him he makes it so hard because he continues to victimize himself so much. Every interview, I already know….cue the tiny violen!
Thank you, Nick, for holding Sandoval accountable. He hasn't and will not change. The same egotistical, disrespectful, and unprofessional creep as always.
This is one of the best interviews I have ever seen. I’m so impressed with Nick for not backing down on his line of questioning. That had to be so uncomfortable. Kudos.
Oh my god
The disrespect Sandoval is showing Nick. I can’t.
And at one point he bit at Natalie- I was ready for Nick to go in on him.
@@blueraven596 They probably don't know what to do, hes so far gone.
As a recovering alcoholic and addict (500 days clean today!!!) I genuinely believe that Tom didn’t realize he was late for the podcast, Meth and Coke will have the day RUNNING by and you don’t even realize it.
Sad. Get help Tom.
Tom Schwartz sits there next to Sandoval just EMBARRASSED of him 99% of the time.
He looks so uncomfortable. When sandy talks about the ugly Xmas ornament and then out of nowhere he talks about the ring Schwartz gave him right in the middle of Schwartz answering a question that had nothing to do with a ring he got in Vegas. Lol mushrooms.
This unfortunately reaffirmed my belief that Schwartz sucks and has no sense of identity.
As Nick said this was his opportunity to just be himself and allow us to see him outside of an edited show and reflect.
He answered no questions, panicked, complained, and then retracted the complaining. His desire to people please and come across a certain way is painful to watch.
Anyway, shoutout to the household for trying to have a quality interview and maintaining your patience b/c I'm sure it took a lot.
Schwartz is a turd. I don't know what else to call him. He is awful to Katie and it can't be that the camera only captured the few bad times. And him being Sandoval's buddy yet talking smack about him around others - Schwartz is a turd.
I think Schwartz was honestly there to try to do damage control for Sandoval, and therefore for their business. Sucks for them that Lisa was able to capitalize on their brand with TomTom and make great money from the association when their image was good, but that S&S is now sinking for the same association.
Toms - maybe don't name your business after yourselves and make its creation a major plot point on your reality show if you don't want its commercial success linked to "one's actions in one's personal life" (which are also on the show)
“Dude….” “dude I don’t fucking know…..”
“ I was talked down to throughout the entire relationship…. Like I was down here…. “ “I had no self-esteem…….” 20 minutes later, “we were best friends, we had each other’s back….” He’s so full of shit….he blames her now more than ever, it’s like over the past 8 months he has truly convinced himself he “fucked up” but it was her fault he fucked up…. Also how thick is he to still be saying all of this publicly…. who does he think is buying this bs he is selling….. and lastly he had low self-esteem and she wore a whip cream bikini…..really??? Get a new therapist…
Yessss! I didn’t catch that. He changes the narrative to fit what he wants people to believe.
Yup and he’s bad at it….
Tom is really not good with words.
I have a hard time getting beyond the “like”, “like”, “like”
Ariana explained it well in the vanderpump after show on Peacock. She said in his mind all of this feels like it's happening to him, rather than the consequences of his actions.
I didn’t even want to watch this but someone was like NO, watch it!! Nick stands up for what’s right and doesn’t hold back with Sandoval, doesn’t baby him or go out of his way to kiss his ass. Wow they were right!! Thank you Nick!! 🙏🏻❤️
Cool story thanks for sharing super enlightening
@@skrtskrrrttt8940 you’re welcome
Nick is correct that people-pleasing is related to narcissism. It’s a socially acceptable way to be selfish. Because people-pleasing means you’re (perhaps unintentionally) manipulating people into not being displeased with you by doing what they want. It’s not authentic. Many of us are people-pleasers and it’s something for us to work on and acknowledge as very unhealthy behaviour.
People pleasing sometimes starts in childhood when navigating with one or more Narcissistic Parent. Survival!
Not Sandoval playing every single trick in his roster, from meltdown to deflecting to over-explaining without meaning to gaslighting to aggression, and Schwartz folding immediately while Nick is patiently waiting for him to cut the shit
Schwartz can't be his own person and/or contradict Scumdoval because he has to be the loudest in the room. He needs the attention and all eyes on him. Schwartz will always agree with Scumdoval and hide his real opinion. Scumdoval can never take accountability which is why he always told everyone that. He could never say sorry without a but after so it was never genuine. Schwartz let Scumdoval tell him what he should do, he shit talked Katie to him and Ariana. Scumdoval was jealous he didn't have his full attention till he did and even then was mad at Katie for leaving his friend. He was/is such a narcissist. It's disgusting
Can we get an episode following this dumpster fire of just Nick & Natalie’s after thoughts?
They said in the beginning of the pod they are 😏 They are waiting for us (the audience) to react and to see the comments
YESSSSS!!! Brilliant idea! Maybe if enough people ask they will do it.
Please!!!!!
@@selenadonkerI can’t wait. Cause Natalie has poker face the way I’d have pulled out my own pair of sunglasses to hide my expressions…
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This interview needs to be required views for psychology students and professionals in the field of narcissistic personality disorder.
And codependency
could be for aa and al-anon too
they’re the picture of it 🙃
I am SO ecstatic that you guys held these guys accountable!!!!!!!! FINALLY
When it was just Tom Schwartz I really didn’t mind it, Sandoval really did prove he’s still chillin being a villain, but Nick did a phenomenal job shutting his bullshit down - a big thank you to Nick for not putting up with all the lies and shitting on Ariana lol
Ohhh I so glad Nick shit his BS down!!! I was putting off watching it cos I didn't wanna see Tom spin his crap and self putting liesand not have anyone actually call him out . I'm watching it now🎉 So glad we have Nick!!!!
Sandoval “Dude, I suck, man”
Nick “Not with the pity party”
Keep him in line, Nick!😂😂
The whipped cream in her 20s comment is incredibly grim and yet on brand
No one addressing the fact that Tom’s an addict . He couldn’t sit still in the relationship and was always out partying. - he also looked high on this podcast- he has some deep soul searching to do and would benefit from getting sober .
I met Tom Schwartz at Schwartz and Sandy’s in August of 2023. The bar was absolutely dead and Schwartz was literally so kind and engaging and you can tell he really is passionate about his bar.
So sad to see him so blindly loyal to Sandoval to the point it’s affected all areas of his life.
Of course he loves the Bar he put all his $$ in it. But he’s an A$$ like Sandoval. He didn’t have to be so mean to Katie. He did it in fun and enjoyed hurting her.
I’m surprised it’s empty. I thought the attention would drive up the customers. Sandoval needs to start going to socialise there too. People will go just to meet him. As long as there’s a one drink rule or an entry fee the trolls will control themselves.
@@jakestroll6518nah no one wants to meet him if anything they want to see it like crash a burn just like his shows him socializing there will just be worse
there’s no way sandoval is sober in this. he is completely unhinged. the Sandoval interview we’ve been BEGGING for
if you know sandoval, you will know this is his normal "unhinged" aka narcissistic self. he's sober af dude.
Meth is one helluva drug
He is not sober here @@user-ef5id9km3p
He was drunk the night before… partied well into the morning hours at his house, according to Kristin’s man
DUDE! SHE! LIKE! LITERALLY!
I have never screamed "it's soooooo BAAADDDDD" at anything in my life. Its. Just. So. Bad. And he STILL doesn't see it!!!!!! Oh my gawdddddd 😂😂😂
When Sandoval said “it’s not a good look” about Ariana being spiteful. Lmao. He is SUCH a narcissist. 🤦🏻♀️😒🥲
Nick is convinced he's not...lmao
Right! That got me too! Talk about tone def, nothing about you or anything you say or do is a good look dumb a$%!!!
@@sh.boogiesbc he’s not 😂 yall just throw around these serious ass terms so now they have 0 meaning it’s fkn annoying
@@jordan.42ok so he’s just a trash human being ok
Gaslighting nick about being late is scary. I do think he is a dangerous person.
This worries me about watching VPR
I actually hope that this shows Nick that his often showed stance that he wants to see everyone getting a second chance, get to share their side of the story, or see them as able to grow/change. Is NOT something that works for a category of people. They only use the chance to give their side of the story to further tell lies, give new excuses, tries to shift blame or manipulate. Again.
And that he can let go of the thought that EVERYONE can change or grow. No, not if you belong to that category of person(ality). Because as he can see now (hopefully), he (Sandoval) don’t have that ability to self reflext or lead with empathy or self awareness, he can’t see how wrong he is, because when it comes down to it, he is too entitled and don’t tjonk he is so wrong. So why would he be able to ”get it” and grow? There is a reason that ppl that treat ppl like him (SORRY, similar to his personality traits) say that it is almost impossible to make them that much better, perhaps a few %. But the problem is, as soon as they bump in to certain issues or situations in life, they revert back to their entitled, manipulative, totally selfish world view. Again.
The definition of ”hopeless case”. But I get we don’t want to think that some people can’t change. But we perhaps must accept when they won’t or when we should stop giving 2, 3, 4:th chances for people to excuse, explain away sh*t. And just see that if ppl are giving chances to change, but the same behavior continues, WE are being manipulated. So to then think, ”but he/she can change” is just a fools arrend to stick to. After we’ve gotten the proof of the opposite. Maybe it is ok to say, I give up, I have no reason to believe they can or want to change. So, bye!
I love how Nick makes them explain everything they say.
Tom in the beginning after his late entrance sounds like he’s on drugs lmao
I liked Nick before....I fkn LOOOVVVEEE him now!!!! The way he held both Tom's accountable and called their shit.... finally someone did!! And the sheer distaste you can read on his face.
Finally someone properly asking the logical questions!!!!
I cheered for Nick when he stood up for Katy! Nick's comment of Katy being opinionated was endearing and right verses Schwartz's negative comment about his ex.
Schwartz needs to cut Tom loose. You become the sum of the people you surround yourself with, and Schwartz continuously gets pulled down by Sandoval
Birds of a feather flock together.. they are friends for a reason. I do wish we got to hear more about how Schwartz sees Sandoval, their friendship, and what he values in Tom and their friendship.
Idk ..I think Schwartz sees Sandoval’s fragility and tries to “hold him up”. He might not know how to free himself - might fear Sandoval wouldn’t make it if he left.
Agreed. Sandoval is like an anchor dragging him down.
Schwartz so loyal to Sandoval - too bad he did not show that same loyalty for his ex-wife
Omg I feel like Schwartz is in a battered relationship. And the tension between Nick and Sandoval is high 😮
It’s like Sandoval is allergic to accountability. If Ariana was treating him poorly, then he would have been absolutely justified in ending the relationship maturely. There is no justification for the way he went about it.
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He needs to spin every damn thing. It is astounding. He will never grow or learn a lesson without intensive therapy.
The same argument can be made the other way though. If Ariana was so unhappy with Sandoval she could've left him at any point during the 9 years. They were both too afraid to leave the other because they are tied financially. It took an affair for her to leave him.
@@seven92023Oml the Ariana haters always got something like this to say. We’re not talking about Ariana right now, we’re talking about Tom and his decision to have an affair.
Thats true, but then he would have had to display a degree of maturity that he just doesn't have.
Arrives late in dirty pants, clearly not sober. Gives a photo of himself with a tiger in Thailand. Blames he being late on Nick. All wrong. Schwart's attempt to help him express himself differently. This man is truly not well and is only sinking deeper and deeper down. Sad to see! He needs so much help. Schwarts also needs help leaving his relationship with Sandoval. He will sink with him otherwise. It's so clear that Schwarts is really, really uncomfortable. I stoped listen to this when Sandoval said ”not a good look” about the women he was hurting. So so sad! I really hope he gets the help he needs. And this is my first time commeting on youtube! Says a lot
The pants...
I didn’t even notice the pants at first omgggg
Seeing the second hand embarrassing on Shwarts face is priceless
SHORTS IS A LOST CAUSE. NICK CALLING HIM OUT TO LOOK AT HIMSELF IS DELICIOUS. HE COULDNT HANDLE IT. MAN CHILD
He is amped up, aggressive, defensive and avoiding eye contact, it’s not giving sober
Most definitely railed a few lines before going
Him continuing to lie that Nick arrived late so deflect from him arriving late is just so telling. He can never just take responsibility and accept that he is in the wrong.
Tom: “just seeing you in the infinity pool, man” ok so that’s him having Schwartz’s back. That’s Sandoval appreciating his friend despite all the times he’s hurt his friend put him in difficult situations with his marriage to Katie, the cost blowouts on their restaurant projects, forcing him to kiss his lover and hide his secrets. But “yeah man you in the infinity pool, so cool”
I’m roughly 10 minutes in to the interview with Schwartzy, and I’m living for for your blatant digs at Tom about his relationship with the other Tom!