Whiteness, White Supremacy, and Colorism
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- Опубликовано: 26 окт 2024
- Whiteness, White Supremacy, and Colorism
In this video, I explore the complex and often overlooked issue of colorism within the Black community, particularly how it manifests in the workplace. Colorism, rooted in the history of white supremacy, affects how Black people interact with each other, influencing hiring, promotions, and overall workplace dynamics. I discuss the societal forces that perpetuate colorism, its implications for Black professionals, and what can be done to address it.
As an HR consultant and attorney with over 30 years of experience, I’ve seen firsthand how these issues impact Black employees, especially Black women. In this discussion, I shed light on how internalized notions of whiteness and proximity to it create divisions within the Black community and contribute to broader systemic racism in the workplace.
Whether you’ve experienced colorism directly or want to understand how it affects your colleagues, this video offers insights and strategies for recognizing and challenging these harmful dynamics.
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OK. Let me be very clear if you come into my comments and refer to the Vice president of the United States in derogatory or disrespect terms or claim she’s not Black I’m just gonna block you and delete your comment. And also, please do not type your comments in capital letters. It’s rude. Remember you’re entitled to your own opinion, but not necessarily on this platform. 🤷🏾♀️ I’m not entertaining toxic anti blackness from anyone including Black people. Govern Yourselves accordingly.
So you condone censorship. If people aren't being derogative or blatantly disrespectful, then why block and delete comments that don't echo your sentiment. Simply allow discourse to happen freely. People feel a certain way about the vice president and her lineage.
I'm being targeted because I stick up for myself on the job. They tried to paint me as the angry black guy. I've been on jobs where if I talk, it's "too much". I've also been on jobs where if I stay to myself, I don't talk enough. 🤦🏿♂️ I wish people would just leave me alone and let me do my damn job.
This is my experience where at the last I just kept to myself because there wasn't much. Of course I got slammed for being quite. One cannot win.
Amen. Darn if ya do and darned if ya don’t
The amount of times i got the "angry aggressive blck guy" thrown at me is insane how tall you are basically how you're build is gonna play a role in that too.
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Fact of the matter is that i'm there to work as long as i do my job good i see no reason for them to keep painting me like that my grandmother told me "i know you're not a bad guy just by looking at you but other people will always refuse to look normal at you" till this day it's true.
I believe racism is a factor in Jordan Chiles being stripped of her bronze medal. She and her team did everything right but they are being punished because the judges didn’t score her routine correctly. I believe them seeing 3 Black women dominating the sport ruffled some feathers.
They changed the narrative to give EU Becky a consolation prize smh 🙄
You know you're making an impact when your comment section starts getting censored. And your comment section is being censored. Keep up the good work.
You don't ramble, you are so knowledgeable and it's great to hear you being so transparent, raw, unfiltered, a nd you are VALIDATING the experience of this younger black woman. I KNEW I WASNT CRAZY. As someone wrote on Tiktok: "Black women who look out for younger black women in professional settings are a godsend". THANK YOU!"
This subject is so timely! I teach at the high school level and colorism is rampant! I truly believe that this issue is used to maintain white supremacy in the black community.
I’ve grown up in predominantly yt and Asian schools and found that the most colorist came from boys in my race. The girls, not as much. The boys said the most heinous things that were crossing kkk level
You did it on this one. I am literally in tears. Because of what I have experienced been a very dark skin black American woman in the workplace and throughout my childhood. The stories I could tell you probably would not believe. Thank you thank you thank you❤❤❤!
Trust me, I would believe. The life that I have had. Oh my. Only God knows!
I always point out how “firsts” are largely light skin who benefited from blood and sweat of darker skinned black people but people always seemed unaware. Nice to see someone point this out.
Totally. I remember taking my young daughter to a local children's Black history museum and their wall of "firsts" were all very light skinned or white passing innovators.
19:25 Facts! Even Beyoncé thinks Kelly’s voice is better (because she can sing Whitney riffs) & Kelly is under-dogged because of her skin tone (imo).
It’s because she is not as talented and hardworking herself. Kelly even admitted this so stop using colorism as a crutch
@@EnlightenedGoldenBeauty oh you don’t stop huh? You’re just here to gaslight in every comment section.
Even Beyonce's dad said her skin color helped her progress. I can only imagine the things people must have said to him before they realized he was her father. Beyonce's dad also said his own mother was colorist hence one of the reasons he got with Tina.
What’s odd is most black men tout Kelly Rowland as the standard of a perfect woman not Beyoncé. There was a woman who recently went viral on a online dating show who compared herself to Kelly and the men tore her apart for doing so.
My mother preferred my two light skinned sister over me. My mother constantly called me Black and ugly, throughout my childhood.
My great grandmother is a product of a slave relationship with a Native American slaveholder. I saw how my mother benefitted from her skin color and I yearned to be lighter. I also acknowledge that I have experienced privilege because of my own skin color.
You are shining a light on societal & workplace issues that plague many of us & I find listening to you very relevant & therapeutic. Thanks so much!
In Ertha Kitt;'s biography she said she wanted to marry a black man, but the men that she wanted to marry did not want to marry her. She said that Sydney Poitier jumped out of the after and stated "I hope you don't think this going anywhere, there is nothing a Black woman can do for me".
Actually, she told that story about Harry Belafonte, not Sidney Poitier.
@@theantihr ty you are correct
@@dontpanicitsjustnaturalhai1631 If you are going to say make such a claim get it right.
Most Black men get money they want light or White. Let's get real most men don't find dark skin and nappy hair sexy
JET magazine “why ASIAN women make better wives”.
Chain gang from the 1930s “I don’t want no jet blk woman, she’s too mean, oh she’s too mean”. This is what the community has thought about darkskinned bw and bw in general
My sista you are dropping some bombs of enlightment which is so important for us to move forward as a people keep up the great work
Sorry but I always love ypur glasses. Off topic but had to comment it lol
Thanks
Same here!
Being a dark skin woman in the workplace, if I'm quiet, I'm angry. Being a dark skin woman, if I'm assertive, I'm aggressive. I noticed people are quicker to vilify and believe lies about me because I'm darker skinned. Lighter skin people tend to get the benefit of the doubt or people believe they are innocent or good people. Becuase I'm dark skinned and pretty, people are looking for character flaws. It's just hard for them to accept that I am a good and decent person. People want to tarnish my image or fault find with me sooooo bad. ESpeciALLY coworkers and non black supervisors. Even traveling through the Middle East this summer....the hate was real.....don't go to Jordan ya'll......Dubai and Egypt were okay but don't go to Jordan......being a black woman is sooo hard. And my parents did not prepare me for the reality of race (i'm 35) in the workplace or in life, I am saying I learned this all the hard way.
I’m very sorry that you’ve had a bad experience but I have been to Jordan and I had a very positive experience. I think it’s very important for us not to discourage each other from traveling as a person who’s been to almost 40 countries I think it’s important to travel and experience places for yourself. if you can survive the United States of America, you can travel anywhere and you should with the recognition that anti-Black racism is everywhere, including the continent of Africa and the Middle East.
@@theantihr I'm glad you had a great experience in Jordan. I've been to 30 countries across 5 of the continents and YES travel is about gaining your own perspective of the world...I still have to warn people though....just like everyone is on Tiktok talking about Italy is anti black, well....I had a fantastic time last summer for the 3 weeks I was there.....I will spread the good and bad.....Jordanians are not used to black people....I went to Amman, Aqaba, Petra, Wadi Rum...I was uncomfortable on Rainbow Street in Amman and in Wadi Rum....if you travel to Jordan don't go solo....you will be treated like a spectacle. Also met some rude Jordanians in Egypt.
🎯💯 I hope you've found ways to deal with that very real, ongoing Villan issue. It has been may experience repeatedly as well. The more compliments I get from management or a popular man, the more desperate people get to make a big deal out of everything I say and do, even demonizing me eating in my car, which isn't harming anyone. I've had several team leaders of many races and genders, overlook the horrible things other people did, only to keep putting in extra effort to make me The Villan. We literally had a screaming angry Karen who was always given a pass.
Hopefully you've found some balance, called it out when its best for you, etc. Picking and choosing my battles, being NiceNasty, and keeping records of false accusations has helped me navigate those insecure games that people seem to play nearly everywhere, especially the workplace. It has saved me so much trouble on Girl's Trips as well! ❤
@@cherishdebI did see a black American woman on YT who traveled there say the same. She said she couldn’t say no to their advances and the guys followed her for blocks/miles.
Oh Jordan is very very all that! Being a woman over there period is very restrictive
I value your perspective and you sharing your experience. I may not have had the same exact experience as you in every single situation since we are in different fields. But I find your experiences resonates with mine most of the time and that’s more than enough. Your compassion and empathy mixed with honesty is also so great to see. Keep
Doing you sis!
Thanks for sharing!
Thank you for creating this space. It is very healing and validating. I appreciate you. 😊
As an additional side note, there is also a problem with the vision of what the ideal female should look like. The obsession with skinny women in media comes from an obsession with masculinating women. Many feminists write about this phenomenon. But isn't a woman biologically meant to have curves, naturally possessing a higher fat to muscle ratio. Is the obsession with skinny women a byproduct of man's fear of the feminine and his desire to make her into something familiar?
The desire to dominate, coerce, and control those that are different seem to be at the core of the fundamental problem of humanity.
Isn’t the skinny women aesthetic in the media perpetuated by White, gay, fashion designers? They propose that their garments hang better on “ruler” shaped women. Men of colo(u)r are generally more appreciative of curves, muscles, fat, melanin in a nice proportion ;)
I am a believer, and I bear this burden in part by remembering that every soul is accountable for their own actions. Every soul will endure the day of judgment. Every soul can do as they will, but they will be held accountable. I have also been greatly influenced by Malcolm X, and in this life, I teach people how to treat me.
So very well said and I could not agree with you more.
Sistah this commentary was very interesting....keep on speaking truth to power. We must hold each other accountable for what we do and what we fail to dol.
You are a sage! Excellent and relevant information. 💯 🎉
I appreciate that!
You’re brilliant as usual ❤ and Caste by Isabel Wilkerson is essential for every one on the planet ❤
also been there with hostile workplace during my career in academia with our own 💔 tough times
I appreciate the work you put into this platform and enjoy hearing the truth in the workplace. Thank you!
Another GREAT video that is well needed for everyone to watch and hear, maybe this will make those look at their biases to make positive change. 😊
There is so much SUBSTANCE to your page THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU.
I appreciate your content, which is very informative. One point of important note is the correction to the use of the term Slave vs ENSLAVED Africans. It best speaks to the condition of Slavery & the Enslavers. Our Ancestors came from a land mass known as the continent of Africa. There is no such land mass known as Slave. With the change in language, we more accurately describe the condition of a People - Africans and the horrible behaviors of other People - White People.
Definitely a difference in both words. We are unable to do better . If we do not know better.💁🏽💯🎯
Sistah I love your commentary !!! You keep teachin! Word!!
I don't think anyone can stop treating people a certain way based on the color of their skin. It's too deeply embedded into our psyche. I justify my own biases by claiming it's just my preference but I believe it's deeper than that.
At least you're honest most ppl just lie.
Explain
@@sheldonhollis5258 it's like breathing. It's automatic. As soon as you see a person, your mind automatically determines an opinion about that person based on what has been drilled in your head throughout generations.
You see a white woman walking down the street. What is your first thought and why?
You see a black man walking down the street. What is your first thought and why?
It's automatic and it's not likely to change.
Oh and what I mean by trying to justify my own biases, I am attracted to dark skinned men. A part of the reason for that is I find them attractive but if I'm honest with myself, there's more to it than that.
The separation of BW and black people is concerning
Please explain. What you see and hear :)
What the heck does that mean? The world still sees us as black. Also the blk community never centers bw’s issues. Only men’s
You only care bc you want bw to over identify with MALENESS. Sorry but we don’t have the same exact plight. Many BM don’t care to hear what bw go through and center their own experiences.
My own father shuts me up when I talk about women’s issues. I don’t care about yours if you actively lump me in with MALE issues and ignore mine.
@Whatsmynamewhocares I just don't get why we buy into the separation. BW have become superwoman used by whites to fill historically male roles. Weak BM are also accepted while men with self-respect are left out. I both admire and feel sorry for our super women. They are viewed as masculine and only worthy of the soft lives they can afford themselves through their own hard work or willingness to be traitors.
This is a very necessary topic. So honest and full of facts. (I also agree with you about the book Caste being a hard read. It took me over 4-months to get through it. It was very painful). Many thanks for your channel.
I'll be brief with my comment.
It's the truth!!!
Every video from this page hits on things that need to be discussed.
Straight facts, without judgement just fr truth.
You can tell a lot about a person by their book recommendations 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
As Farrakhan Said, "When you know who you are, you will love yourself. Honor Yourself, and RESPECT"! YOUR SELF.
Thank you 🙏 for sharing
Anne Marie - the word is pronounced cast even though it's written caste.
The book 📕 was an excellent read.
Excellent information to ponder on. I agree with what you have said. It's so true, and i have experienced this in my lifetime in the workplace. Thank you for this video.
Yes I saw Oprah on the channel 5 news as a child at that time wanted to be on tv due to seeing her. I remember mama encouraged me to marry a light skin man.
are light skinned men kinder? just wondering. cause I know some and they are trash.
Thank you for your platform. I appreciate you so much.
You are so welcome
Excellent in your breakdown!!!!!
I'm part of a group that has three no four black women including me as survivor leaders and we're working on legislation to help black women who are disproportionately affected by trafficking. I am the lightest scanned person in that group who is black and identifies as black but it keeps being said that unless these other sisters are involved there's no black people working on our proviso for black women and girls. So no one has said it to my face, but it's been said by others... and it really hurts cuz I've been knowing these sisters a long time all but one of them. One of them is a young sister who's just starting out in non-profit spaces The rest of us have worked together for years and as a matter of fact I've even worked for both of them. stopped working for both of them because of bullying at different organizations.
Thanks for all you do♥️
This is very kind of you. Thank you.
I read that book Caste. Let me rephrase, I listened to it. It was easier for me to listen to it than read it. I really enjoyed that book. Another good one is Sundown Towns by James Loewen.
I have been to India several times and have seen firsthand how the caste system works.
Thank you
Thanks for talking about this. As a light-skinned woman I agree that alot of the opportunities I was given were given to me mostly because I'm light skin.
Hoeever, what are your thoughts on code switching?
I feel like the dark skinned sisters have had to code switch in order to be accepted in white corporate America.
VP Harris is also light skinned & married to a white man, she was the first person I thought of as you were speaking🥹
That’s interesting since I wasn’t speaking of her in particular except where I directly referenced her.
Harris has definitely coasted through life on lightskinned privilege.
You are so right on everything you said, my sister and I are light skin, my brother is dark skin, I remember growing up, people loved my sister and myself, they always wanted my mom to let us stay with them, but never my brother, we have our own demons that need to be fixed, that's why you see so many dark skin men and women will not date, or marry any dark skin people, they run to the white woman and men..we have created self hate amongst ourselves, because we can show favoritism amongst ourselves as black people, I use to get mad when I see professional black people getting with other races, but we have drove them to it, I remember growing up, if someone that was light skin got mad at you, they would call you all kinds of ugly names associated with your skin color, so it has did a job on our people
People need to read the Willie Lynch Letter!
This video is so great! I love the history and references to pop culture, and how you tied it into the workplace, schools and travel! This is gold! Thank you!
Also, I have the unexplored opinion that one of the unstated reasons why slavery was ended by the North was not only to assert power over the South, and take away their highly lucrative, slave labor industry during the civil war, but was also due to the excessive practice of r*pe (not sure if this will get censored) of Black women. Ultimately, this barbaric practice resulted in a not insignificant number of Blacks that could pass as white because their last fully Black ancestor, was their great grandmother and farther. Essentially, wealthy white men were fathering mostly white female slaves and calling them "Black" so they could own them and do whatever they wanted to do with them. Resulting in, a "moral" issue that was affecting the white community. In the case of Sally Hemmings, who was Thomas Jefferson's dead wife's half sister, her last fully Black ancestor was her grandmother, so she was 25% African and her children with Jefferson were even less. Sally probably looked closer to white than Black. I'm not saying Sally wasn't Black, but I am saying this is a historical example of my point.
I think you’re onto something. It’s an interesting take. When you consider race is not real it’s made up - a social construct used to divide and control. And some slaveholders did use SA to grow their slave inventory. That’s a documented fact.
@@theantihr Yes, exactly! Race is a construct, and your commentary illustrates how unhelpful and socially divisive colorism is within this construct.
While I believe & know everything you have said is the truth and reality. However, if I am being interviewed by a dark skinned Black women 🤔 it's usually a wrap for me. I have been completely traumatized and had my heart broken by Black people men & women. Just imagine all the issues and horrors you discuss experiencing them from Black people as an African American Muslim ☪️ woman. Black people are extremely prejudice!
And do you know who we learned it from? And do you understand the history of where that self hatred comes from? All roads lead to white supremacy. It’s not an excuse, but it is an explanation.
You have so many dark skin people changing they're skin color, due to self hate, and we are basically the blame, we should be empowering each other, because black is still beautiful.
Did you see imitation of life too?
Of course I’ve seen imitation of life
Interestingly, Fredi Washington (the actress who played the Black daughter in the 1930s version of Imitation of Life) was an example of a very light-skinned person in that time who was committed to advancing civil rights for Black people.
On a different note in your video:
Lena Horne also married a white man. She stated in interviews later in her life that she thought it would advance her career. Her daughter Gail recently died. Gail was Lena's daughter by an earlier marriage to a Black man. She married white men (including the director Sidney Lumet) and had two daughters. Those daughters seem to have married/partnered with white men.
TRIBES TRIBES TRIBES. WE ARE ALL ONE FAMILY. BECAUSE OUR CREATORS WERE A MELINATED COPPER COLOURED INDIGENOUS SWARTHY PEOPLE. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US IS WHERE THE BOAT DROPPED US OFF.
OMG OOOOH THE BIBLE IS SO REAL! SHAME ALOT OF OUR HISTORY WAS REMOVED!
Yes Ma'am,you better put it on the floor and stand on buisness! Also, yes you do representative a huge amount of us that look like you💪🏾🫶🏾🫡✊🏾👏🏾
Yes! Thank you!