Love & Hip Hop Atlanta: Racism, Colorism, and the Uncomfortable Truth
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- Опубликовано: 19 авг 2024
- The conversation continues with Love & Hip Hop Atlanta: Racism, Colorism, and the Uncomfortable Truth. This roundtable discusses the recent events that aired on the show before MTV decided to stop filming with Erica Mena. Join international colorism expert Dr. Sarah L. Webb, founder and owner of @ColorismHealing, a global leader in raising awareness, shifting attitudes and taking action to address colorism, for an open dialogue that features Spice, Yandy, Joc, Scrappy, Sierra, Amy and a special appearance from @Rasheeda sharing their experiences with racism and colorism. Watch the special and find resources on fighting racism and colorism at MTV.com/colorof....
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When Spice said “I can’t trigger you to become racist” a word was said!!
THAT PART
Spice azz is not a victim y’all need to stop
@@vikkiholmes603do you think she's saying that she's a victim? This is bigger than her
🙄🙄 some people needs to be educated a little more
@@vikkiholmes603you need some black history education in your life.
This round table is literally the most responsible thing this show and it’s producers have ever put on after all these years. Well done.
Right?!!!
Lol
EVER
Facts
It was
This was so overdue its sad that they're using Erica's ignorance to do this.
Yandy was looking to excuse Erica but Joc stopped her. I loved that moment. We as black people always give grace to others but never for our own!
So disgusting.
This host deserves flowers. Amazing control, flow, conversation topics and dynamics. Truly appreciated
Exactly she did it with grace and class. Thank you to her for having this discussion for young black girls, and to all the cast members 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆👑💃🏿.
Self-Hate is real. The amount of black women defending NON-BLACK Erica and blaming the producers for “airing” it, but not holding Erica accountable for saying her RACIST words is disturbing. Erica has used this term many times many times: Stevie J, Johnni Blaze and club promoters. She needs to be held accountable. Not only should she not be on the “next season” she needs to be permanently banned. Don’t argue with me, argue with yourself. I SAID WHAT I SAID.
Curious: so calling a fat person “pig” or ugly person “donkey” is similar to using the word “monkey”? I’m just curious what ppl are feeling…. 🤔
@@amyernst985do those have racial implications? Please sit this one out and hop off my comment.
@@amyernst985you really can't be serious.
Thank you so much for this comments
💯
Joc said it right. Shes in the culture long enough to know. 🎯 She knew exactly what she said. Liar liar Erica
Exactly, joc wasn’t having that!
Exactly like these colorist and racist people are crazy in the comments
Joc was speaking facts through the whole video!!
Erica was mad Safaree was closer to Spice than he was to her. I think Erica started thinking and comparing herself to Spice. The rest is history.😊
@@tracy-annbennett1072Yes, exactly what I been saying
“You can't just apologize because your pocket is being affected” wow Spice, well said!. We should no longer accept excuses. The best way to punish racists is to attack the money that feeds them. This is more impactful and powerful.
This discussion gave me an entirely new respect for Scrappy and Joc. They made very good points, they listened, and their perspectives were very necessary and enlightening. The show doesn't display the cast's intelligence enough, I hope to see more of it going forward.
“I can’t trigger you to be a racist” this needs to be on a billboard, a shirt, books or any type a support that will allow the masses see and deeply understand these words
Im with you on this I now want to get the shirt made with the color blacK
Yessssss!!!
Agreed
I agree
I'm with you. How you triggering racism out of someone, you just been racist and your truth came out in the moment of anger. disgusting.
If this was the Jewish community it would be NOTHING TO TALK ABOUT...SHE WOULD BE DONE PERIOD. BLACK FOLK NEED TO STAND ON THE SAME THING
Exactly
Bc they stick together. The black community doesn’t.
Exactly!
Definitely I wrk with Jews and they definitely big on respect and culture
Unfortunately, Black people have short memories.
The fact that she call her a monkey so quick and easy can show and tell you how many times she thought it or said it behind her back. Her reaction to spice comments was brewing more likely from the time she sat down.
Girl, shut up.
It shows how uneducated Erica is when it comes to black culture due to her self righteous self righteous narcissistic self absorbed tendencies.
As a 16 year old, hearing Erica Mena calling a beautiful black woman “monkey” and making monkey sounds was very hurtful 😢 . I’m happy she’s no longer part of the show ❤❤❤❤ my friends and I want to thank you
Awww🙏🏾🙏🏾
Everytime Joc opened his mouth he said something of substance. 🤝🏾👏🏾
I liked his point of view and how they explained it !
I wish they didn't cut him off and let him speak. He was dropping gems in his counter arguments, but they weren't receptive.
Joc is an radio personality and speaker
@@katjackson9350 I found myself shouting ‘ yesss ‘ everytime he made a point.
Who knew that JOC had this whole other side I am so impressed he made made so much sense and he is passionate about this topic
Y’all this isn’t Erica first time using the word monkey she definitely knows what the word means
As a Latina, she sure does
100%. Her looks shielded her from the repercussions of her bitchcraft, and now it’s time to pay.
Yandi called Peter and amina monkeys season 4 episode 7...my question is is it ok if it's withing the same race...its confusing...erica was totally wrong
@@laurasayas5650 I missed that..and it had nothing to do with how they used to yell and communicate🤔
Erica is annoying to me since the beginning
Thank God that someone has the courage to discuss "COLORISM" in our society and how it effects awareness and growth in many communities 😢😢😢😢😢
As a black Jamaican woman,I feel for Spice.She did not deserve such harsh words towards her . Love the conversation.I love you my poeple 😢😢😢.
And WE love you back!!! I love my people 🫶🏽
You hit the nail on the coffin its the fact that she has had numerous times to put her foot in her mouth and she didn’t she even said its a choice for black people to be offended it sounds like she had a black friend in her ear .. and that makes me even sadder .. i wish and hope the future is brighter for us to stand up for one another
And she shouldn’t have talked about about people children I don’t feel bad for spice at all.
@@pinkversace187ok girl 🤣
I to come from a Jamaican background born Canadian and has been a victim to racism as well as a boy and with the strength of God's love grace beauty mercy and courage rose above all that and stand strong as a beautiful black man who wears his heart on his sleave and tries to be the best brother and Uncle to my nieces and nephews bringing good change to this world.
Erica DOES know the history, that's why SHE said it!
That's what I'm saying,why are some capeing for her
@@valeo3508 Self hate sad case smh
Exactly! She always thinks she’s better than black people. She is known for doing it! There is nothing to justify her actions. Spice was wrong but Erica hurt a whole group of people with those words
She definitely knows and dont care. I read somewhere that she called Stevie J and Jhonnie Blaze monkeys too on the show with no consequences.
Exactly
the fact that Erica laughed when Yandy said she was offended shows out of touch she is! she is RACIST and she shows it in this clip. im glad they showed her for who she is!
Totally! To think I felt sorry for her before this, as a Black man. Sorry no more!
I’m glad Erica Mena won’t be back in the next season
I’m sorry but yandy is a waste of space she doesn’t let her man having his family’s in peace cause she’s crazy
Exactly. She wonder why she wasn't in the sit down
Maybe Latinos feel superior over people who are darker I remember being at a park and hearing 2 Latinos say don't mess with black Puerto Ricans and they also put down Mexicans that are darker
This discussion was necessary for our black culture and how each color tones within our culture are treated. Also, "They come after our black men and have black children, but think they are superior".
I feel Spice spoke pearls of wisdom along with the rest of cast and I hope this discussion can continue so we can all move forward in a better place in our community. This dialogue was greatly appreciated❤.
When Spice said, “At the end of the day, no matter what anyone else say, I came out as the winner because I revealed a racist” that shit gave me the chills👏🏾👏🏾
Nobody won spice needs to be held accountable for talking about erica son
Right?!?!?!? Like She brought up her son!
@@unclehowdeydivein Your comment let's me know you didn't watch the whole video. If you watched the WHOLE video she took accountability. But either way she DIDN’T TALK ABOUT HER SON, SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT HER PARENTING!!!!! Why can't y'all get that through y'all small ass brain? If you watched the video they talked about that. They even showed the video of Scrappy talking about Erica’s parenting and she didn't call him a monkey. And she can't talk about anybody. Because out of all the cast members Erica comes for almost everybody's parenting skills. So what makes her different when they come for hers? Seeing the scene with Scrappy and compare it to Spice it let's me know no matter how mad Erica gets she still has her common sense when she argues, she knew exactly what she did and said.
@@mrspatilla85 like I told the other dude, SHE DIDN’T TALK ABOUT HER SON SHE TALKED ABOUT HER PARENTING!!!!! And if you go back and watch many other episodes Erica is the main one that always come for other people's parenting. So let me ask you a question. What makes it different for Erica talking about other people's parenting skills verses Spice talking about Erica’s parenting skills?
@Vicky-98 it's a huge conversion about Erica Mena in general but about this particular subject...once u bring up kids, parenting... all bets are off. Which is why children, parents, family related is off limits... Erica calling Spice a monkey wasn't being racist. Spice is no victim. (In my opinion)..Erica thinks Spice is not an attractive female, who looks ridiculous with that horrible blue wig, and resembles a monkey, and in the heat of the moment, called her a monkey. In Retaliation for bringing up her son not liking her.
Y’all should’ve had Amara here to discuss Veronica Vega doing the same thing while the entire black cast justified and rode for Veronica.
Including Trina the Bassett Hound.
No amara could stay her ass at home
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
They choice to ride with who they want to ride with
. and Big Belly trick 😂😂😂
From one Jamaican to another... Spice (Grace Hamilton), I am so proud of you, girl. Continue on your healing journey and all the best for the future. One love! 🙏🏽💖
What’s crazy is, I’m half African American and Filipino. I grew up in the Philippines and I got called monkey (unggoy in Tagalog language). Mind you, Filipinos calling me that. I got made fun of because of my skin color, my hair texture, the way I dressed etc.
Girl, shut up. Nobody cares
Your black is powerful... Their always mad😂😂 I love it!
your beautiful mama sorry it happened that way but am not sorry your half black honey your beautiful
I have little cousins that share the same races you do and i hope they don't go thru this in the US. Just know and hear me when i say this HAPPY PEOPLE DON'T HATE! They saw something in you they wanted because it was unique and looked of greatness to them. if they were happy with themselves, they wouldn't have made fun of you.
Hate you has to go thru this.
I LOVE how she broke down the definitions of racism, prejudice, & colorism.
Yandy saying she didn’t think Erica understood what she was saying and then trying to check Scrappy makes no sense. Joc was right, Erica knew what she was saying was racist.
Yandy is always lying
That was nuts
Joc didn't let her finish. She was going somewhere. I am NOT a Yandy fan but I see what she was doing.
Y'all didn't listen...she said when she heard she was saying to no way she said that she must not know..but when she spoke to Erica she realised that Erica knew exactly what she was saying
@@nickylnras usual there re those who either don’t listen well or don’t comprehend well, but Yandy did not take up for Erica. Glad you understood what she meant.
A a light skinned African American woman with a beautiful brown skin daughter , I was hurt and very upset by what Erica said . I too seen colorism in my family, whenever a new baby was born the older generation of women will look at the ears and fingers tips . Passed down from generation to generation to see how light or dark the baby will become. I’m so happy I broke that cycle of generation colorism, and ignorance against my own race
Nobody wants a tar baby. Deal with it.
@@TinaCarey123What a hateful ignorant statement
@@TinaCarey123Stfu troll you have no life and most likely no friends that's why you waste time under a fake page making hateful comments.
LOVE THAT JOC BROUGHT UP THE HAIR AND CONTOUR. Kept it real.
Joc example was a perfect EXAMPLE of colorism amongst black people
I feel like Black men like Joe Budden are colorist.
And wen spice said she reveal a racists
I wish they would’ve stopped cutting him off
@@nyashwade2560 ikr they was doin good at first
Yea that was great, my answer to that is we busy, and are colorful bei hs we just like different styles and like to switch our hairstyles up. That's all it is for me.
JOC is soooooo intelligent! He needs to ALWAYS be apart of any discussion!
Yes. His point about the N word being just as off limits as the monkey slur was nothing but facts and Black people need to apply that same energy with the use of the N word to their Hispanic friends.
@@fatwp6345this is same thing I’ve been saying. It’s no different but no one is mentioning that thou
@@fatwp6345 As a black South African, the N-word has gained a lot of traction in my country. I don't use the word because stand with the African brothers, sisters, people in the Americas, what is your opinion on non-African American black people using the N-word?
What is your opinion non-black in South Africa (as we call them Coloureds, who are similiar to the Latinx community. more mixed though) using the N-word. ( this question doesn't include white people in South Africa)
But not Scrap. No shade.
Preach sis, was looking for this comment!!!!
THIS is EVERYTHING!!!
I’m VERY excited for the rest of the round tables!
Thank Y’all for doing this
It is so important and I think it’s going to do a LOT of good for us!!
I’m here for this conversation! Speak on it! Everything they’ve spoken about I’ve seen an experienced, especially as a dark skinned girl. Being half Jamaican and half Nigerian has taught me a lot.
Exactly what Joc said!!! They want us to educate her because maybe she “doesn’t know” what the slur means. She DEFINITELY knew what she was saying!!! She’s too immersed in our culture to not know!! Like she said out of her own mouth, she wanted to violate her. WE DO NOT need to teach anyone how to treat us. We’re the only race that does this.
This!! Joc really showed up when he said that!
I agree with Joc. He is so right about this.
🎯🎯💯💯
The only race that does this what is this what do we do
She definitely knows how deep it cuts!
She thinks it's just water under a bridge!
No the phuck it is & for her to comment like "this is 2023 get over what happened 400 years ago"! That's not how life work🤦🏽♀️
For every saying they dragging this, Erica NEEDS to be dragged after years of using racial slurs and getting away with it💯💯 Im so proud of the cast for not giving her a pass🙌🏾🙌🏾
Yes !!
Speak your speech!!!
Gotta keep your foot on their necks!
WELL SAID 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾💯💯💯💯💯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯
Yandy Smith called Erica Mena a Monk3y 5 times on Ebro Hot 97 interview May 22, 2015 8 years ago. GOOGLE IT! 😂😂 They all call each other Monk3y A$$ H03, A$$ Monk3y & Everything else. This some Bull 💩
Stevie J called Mimi & her friends $lut Monk3y’s. Ahkbar called chicks Monk3y A$$ H03. They are intentionally poking at Erica Mena after allowing ppl to disrespect her child & bring him up year after year
This conversation was sooooo needed! Black women are who others imitate and emulate but are made to feel as if we aren’t ENOUGH by society and sometimes family and peers. Let’s love on ourselves in our natural state and each other more! ❤
They try to make us feel like we not enough because they dont want us to know, feel, and act on our power. That's why they copy us. If everything we do is bad, why they try to capitalize off doing the same thing. The issue is we dont stick together
Facts 💯
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Bullshit
@@joyrenee2096be quiet.
Why did I just cry! 😕 that clip was horrific! The way Spice dropped her head wow! This was painful 🥹
Yandy and Spice brought so many good points to this discussion!! Intelligent women!!
Facts
Definitely!
PERIODT ♓ GANG GANG💯💯💯
Joc made the best points but they tried to talk over him because he was holding them accountable.
The fact that YANDY tried to educate her and try to tell her what she said was wrong and the fact that she didn’t even try to listen or take accountability for her actions, told me everything i need to know about Erica mangy ass
I always knew she was a dirty individual, but she had me back when she with Richie Dollas! She really hated that Olivia got "her" song as she called it!!
It's the description of "mangy" for me🤣🤣🤣
Did she tell spice she was wrong too. Both woman are wrong.
@@iamstarrqualitylegacy1249 are you serious? Spice insulted Erica as an individual. Erica insulted a race of ppl. Do you have kids? Let's say your kid gets into an argument w a non blk classmate and your kid says "that's what your momma left you". The nonblk kids replies with "that's why you are a gger!" Would that sit right w you?
@iamstarrqualitylegacy1249 I think you miss the point 🤡 🤦 spice didn't do NOTHING
i am a 57 yr old caucasion female. i didnt know there was a thing call "colorism", until about 2yrs ago. Thank you for this discussion and im sorry you all have to experience so much angst and feelings of being less then because of the color of your skin. may god bless and keep you in his loving care🙏❤️💙
This was by far the most important conversation I have ever seen on reality TV ever. So important! So necessary! Thank you...may this be the beginning of some genuine healing!❤
This was a great conversation. When spice said I can’t trigger you into being a racist that was the end of the conversation for me.
Mic 🎤 drop moment
Black people as a whole, didn’t start the colorism war. But also as black people, we keep it up and it’s so disheartening and disgusting to see. We have to come together and do better
👏🏾💯
❤
Yap.....
FACTS.
Definitely. Slavery and trauma truly effed up our community
Shocking for me, but Joc really sees how it REALLY is. He made a lot of sense and he is well educated on the subject♥️🙏🏻
When I went natural my grandmother would constantly say, "When are you gonna do something with your hair?" My curls have always been popping and it used to make me, as a teenager, so mad and insecure because I spent more time on my hair as a natural then I ever did as relaxed. She didn't mean to hurt me, but it still did.
As a conscious, Black woman that wears her natural hair, I was very pleased with this round table discussion. They touched on all the modules, and did not leave anything out. We, as a community have face so much discrimination and racism among this society. This is a wake up call to stop letting other races into the black culture.
Absolutely 💯
This!!
Fr the wig thing had to be said
Why if u want freedom and respect fight for it
Absolutely I wear locs and it’s felt each day
Love how Spice took accountability for her anger and said she was gonna work on it. Growth is the goal.
Only Dark Skin are expected to do that though
💯💯💯💯💯💯
THIS!!!
She ain’t gonna do sh!t.., she’s been saying that for years😂
Cause Spice is a real one and Erica is a fake one and a narcissist sociopath that has no remorse compassion or care about there actions or comments.
Great conversation.. I love us still talking about this. I’m proud to be dark and black. We will get over colorism. We starting to love our skin tone. Erica knows what she saying. It not the first time people tell Erica about her son.
I'm so sorry Spice you don't ever deserve that being said to you! That made me instantly cry for you and us black women! This is why we have to be so strong (NOT BY CHOICE) but out of necessity! It makes me feel like I'm invisible!
I'm so proud of my Jamaican mama right now. Spice is holding her own. Very articulate.
Same here
I'm sooo glad Joc, Yandy, and Spice were the ones at the table. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 It's the intelligence level to understand the ramifications, not let it roll off your back, not look at it like she was ignorant to it, and not forget about it next week.
I agree with the point Joc was trying to make before Yandy interrupted. We shouldn't be using the N word amongst one another. I put it like this, when the time comes and my soul is reunited with my ancestors I want to be proud that I never assimilated to the culture to use a word that was intended to harm my culture
This was such a good conversation. I love how everyone showed up intelligently and eloquently. Hopefully, we'll see this same level of blackness in the next season. ❤❤❤❤❤
Wow!!! that was really good conversation. There was a lot of insight, teaching and learning that we all can learn from no matter what the race. or color. Thank you so much!
Joc and Scrappy had real points in this discussion that are the real talking points, but so many in our black community don’t want to have that conversation
1000%%%%
Unpopular opinion but I agree.
Yessss!! I’m over here like… they are being dismissed!
Facts!!!
They’re both clowns who added nothing of importance to this very serious conversation. Sierra, too.
It brought me to tears watching this, not only because of the racial slur that was used but the fact that we are having a MAJOR conversation on a platform that has been ridiculed for years. I’m so happy to see this platform use its voice to talk about racism/colorism. It was needed for the culture! For this generation. For our people.
THANK YOU JOC FOR SAYING THAT ABOUT BLACK WOMEN WEARING STRAIGHT WIGS.
Love Spice saying that she will leave this table with a focus on working through her own internal struggles.
I would love to see this round table turn into a regular show or podcast. I enjoyed seeing this side of the cast. No mess...just real conversations!❤😊🎉
I’m so glad this conversation was televised. I’ve experienced colorism in my own family
Same I had someone say black hair isn't good hair cause it's nappy 😢
Imma be real it was my dad it had me thinking black wasn't good enough I started to hate myself
For context, I’m only 2 generation born off the Poplar Grove plantation in Louisiana. My mom and grandma and other family members gravitated to my lil sister because of her light skin complexion. The kids in the neighborhood called me Cinderella because I was always cleaning and sweeping while my sister played and laughed at the whole situation.
Me too! Had an argument with one of my light skin cousin side of the family about this. This was in my mom generation I heard of it starting. It's a shame the division in blk families! The root cause is rac!sm dated back to slavery. It's noted how division happened in the Willie Lynch letter.
Same here sis
I don't really watch the show but this title caught my attention and I decided to take a listen. We need more awareness like this. I commend the persons responsible for this production, and the participants.
This world is so lacking in Love, and until we start truly loving ourselves and loving each other, we will always have a world filled with discrimination and destructive criticism. LOVE is the healing of the nations.
I cannot like this video enough! Very informative, raw, and REAL! I love how all of them had great input!
This round table should be aired on every media platform.
DR. Sarah did an amazing job navigating this panel.
I shedded a tear with Spice. ❤❤❤ What she went through is what a lot if not all unambiguous richly melanated BW go through.
Dark skin wmn start shit first.
My question is why are those angry when Erica said it to Spice? And not Stevie J. to Erica Dixon?!!!!!!!!
As a Black man myself, that's conversations we needed to have and we all African Americans need to be respected and accepted as equal
I agree, but even in our own community some are not accepted due to color.
@@Saveusall52From the darkest to the lightest.
Black men should start by truly loving themselves, then passing on that love to uplift black women, and that will trickle down to the children.
We are all equal, never let anyone make you feel less than. You are amazing and strong and beautiful. Never forget this❤
@@leannedavey1894 thank you! And you’re absolutely right.
As an African beautiful woman I’m proud this topic is been discussed and putted down on the table.
Enough is enough ✊🏾
That's why I hate when people say words Don't hurt. Growing up being a gay man from an urban neighborhood. With so many races Even having dark skinned sister and brother I saw how people would treat us differently. It hurt me .
@@joseeLeroy-gm7jithis ain’t got nothing to do with gayness
Meanwhile you’re watching a show about blacks being problematic & acting like they weren’t raised right and expecting a ‘lesson’ to be taught. The first lesson is..why are you watching this crap? It makes us look horrible
@@neverhungryagain2187 did I say it was I meant it as being different from one people don't see things the same as you will say things they don't think are offensive. So sorry if that struck a nerve.
@@LuLu-qu3oz why would some one even keep making shows like this and air them on TV . This world is going to crap
I’m 57 years old and even though they clown on the show, I hear a table of young, intelligent black people discussing this very hard topic. I’m very proud of them.
This really needs to become a regular topic of conversation with different cast members on the shows. This was such a good episode and so overdue.
This was a good conversation that needed to be aired. Colorism is prevalent in our community.
I'm a darker skin woman and I really loved this sit down. It was so needed.
Same, dark skin woman too!! this was great topic.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
absolutely
I do not find them being authentic. Like none of them called Rasheed out for calling K Michelle nappy headed.
@@vatricegeorgeIt's so many instances of racism on this blk platform.
Loved the host!!! She was able to take what the panelist said and phrase it in such a way that it gave historical context and label the feeling they were expressing.
This was a much needed conversation. Hopefully it continues and does not end here.
When Erica said it’s 2023 it was almost like she wanted to say why are we still worried about slavery. 🤦🏽♀️
Thats exactly what i thought. She makes me sick
She’s gotten to comfortable with the community and her being aggressive and no one addressing it or us just saying “she crazy or she doesn’t play”. But if you allow a person to talk lonnngg enough you’ll hear their true feelings.
I caught that too. All of her colors just spilling out everywhere
I cried off this video, bc it so real. I love all my people. I agree with Amy when youuu come for one you come for us all. This is a lesson learned. “I can’t trigger youuu to become racist”
Exactly, Erica didnt want to admit that she offended people across the globe
make me cry too 😢
Same
You know what… say what you want about Love and Hip Hop, but they got it right with this colorism conversation👏🏽👏🏽
The bigger question is why wasn’t it edited out ???? The show is not live !!!!
I can’t imagine how Spice feels to know not only being called a monkey but also someone telling you that you should’ve died? That’s so hurtful especially when you’ve experienced a near death experience. That’s beyond hurtful.
😢 I totally agree you don't wish death upon no one 🙏🏾
Absolutely your right..?!😮where in that instance would Erica wish another woman or mother ☠️ Dead…? Dead on the operating table..? That’s so toxic and unacceptable on all levels..?
The death comment was fair game sorry. You hit low, I hit low too. The only thing that was out of line was the monkey comment, cause now you are offending an entire community.
@@lkez2Yeah your sick sorry. Wishing death on someone is ridiculous I’m sorry a lot of you are really telling on yourself on this situation
@@lkez2Not that low.That’s abysmal
Why it took so long for them to realize Erica Mena was racist is beyond me. If you were truly paying attention, you knew she was racist from day one. She always thought of herself as better than any of those sisters.
That is a very good question!!!! This is not Erica first time and definitely won’t be her last .
That's why I'm rolling my eyes at this ish
They literally wanna save face now.
Most Spanish women think they are better than black women
They already knew how Erica was. Erica is their entertainment. She is a cash cow for them. I would not be surprised if other cast members used racial slurs, but they did not air it out. I am very happy that they have this round table to educate, but for me personally, I think it’s bullshit. Again, they already know what time it is with Erica, but they continue to let her get away with murder. It’s only because of the backlash so really and truly it was not genuine and the entire cast knows about it they know about the platform they know that it’s hypocritical, but money is coming in and that’s all that matters.
@@natashadj1936 True! She will be back and she won't change a thing!!
This needs to be revisited again, so much can and should be said. Power in conversation and understanding
No, it does not. Let DSBW complain and wallow in misery.
“ I can’t trigger you to be racist”. That part 👏🏽
This could’ve been done during Spice’s own colourism-related storyline that promoted her song called “Black Hypocrisy.”
Exactly they didn’t fill the need to talk about a serious issue and colorism. It didn’t fit the narrative.
Well now it's a full circle moment for her they thought she was tripping but look what happened
This been going on back in the days too this aint nothing new under the sun
@@DelicatesofLifeThey didn’t think she was tripping because they didn’t agree with her basic message. They thought she was tripping because they didn’t realize she was only *pretending* to bleach her skin *temporarily,* and they thought bleaching for real would’ve been a crazy thing for her to do. I think once they all realized it was just part political statement and part publicity stunt, they chilled.
@@WestIndianAK Who’s they?
”They” were definitely tripping because of her basic message. Self hatred is deeply rooted within print and digital media especially within the spaces where these tools are mostly owned and or operated by black men. The passion for choosing women who’s wombs posses the genetic material necessary to wash away that which they hate most about themselves has always been very evident. Whenever an opportunity to prove this theory correct presents itself “They” always rise to the occasion
Spice is Well Spoken And Educated on the HISTORY of Colorism n Racism. She should b sitting on Panels world wide on these Topics.
Wow. This girl says the bus driver would leave her yet also says she’s barely leaving her house!!!!! The entitlement is so real here!!!!!!
Joc is well spoken. I am glad snd proud to see him in a light orher than how we were introduced to him on the show.....THAT'S GROWTH
Joc was ready to cook and they just kept interrupting.
Sooooo proud of love and hip hop for doing this. Colorism is a GENERATIONAL CURSE throughout the world. My grandma was literally alive during British colonialism. We need to evolve. That’s it
This was the greatest LHH episode I have ever seen! Thank you VH1 for having this amazing doctor, and the cast members, to speak on this disgraceful matter that keeps being ignored in our beautiful black community.
They forgot to add Amara Le Negra to the conversation. This would have been a perfect opportunity for her to speak from her POV especially on the Latino perspective.
This was probably the best episode of LHHATL I have watched. I am glad to see them address the issues within our community.
Oh please this was a set up to cover their asses. Fake woke af.
Ever!❤
I wish Joc had gotten to speak more because he was making some good counter-points to the statements the others were making. The fact they kept cutting him off is another sign of this inner conflict in Black culture because they never want to show weakeness in front. By not agreeing to the narrative completely, Joc had lost his right to speak uninterrupted, which isn't right.
I agree, Joc as a dark skin man wanted to educate himself on colorism from a black woman’s perspective. Hopefully he can get his time to talk about it.
THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!!! they don’t want to talk about it!!!!!
EXACTLY! Joc should’ve standed more on his points.
I agree. Especially when he asking why bw wear blonde hair or contour body parts to look diff to fit in. He was simply sayn bw need to love their natural beauty. Wide or thin noses thick or thin lips etc
@jolandamills479 I think he really was going with Spice's "Black hypocrisy" train of thought. Black people want to emulate self-love and stand for our natural beauty, but then they will also chastise another BW's natural hair or darker skin. In the end, we can't help ourselves if we don't love ourselves.
Joc & Scrappy made some very valid points and for some reason they were being defensive. Contouring your nose, bleaching skin, hair, etc.. they can’t be trying to have European features. But a yt woman getting lip injections, mean she wants to be like “Keisha.” It doesn’t make sense. 1 + 1 isn’t equaling 2. But I do love the response the lady gave on how the hair texture isn’t acceptable in schools, work, etc so they have to change their image. I wish everyone can come together as ONE. We’re one and are created equal.
You can tell this was a learning moment for Scrappy. I believe he didn’t fully understand the gravity of Erica’s words and what they imply. Like you can just really tell some of the info was foreign to him.
I don’t even understand how people can say spice was aggressive when Erice threw a table at her, like what could be more violent and aggressive than that.
Agreed, Spice was even calm. She wasn’t yelling. She simply asked her why she was comparing the two of them. She should have followed her first mind, she didn’t want to meet up with her.
I felt so bad for Spice I pray for her strength and happiness ❤
I'm glad this show was allowed to happen at this time in our History it was need it it need to be shown all over every tv station because racism has not went any where
Well done Spice! You showed how well educated Caribbean people are on our history and that's why we will never be silent or stand down in the face of racism!
And I love it and it's very much respected
Yes. I feel touched we are represented in this conversation. 🇯🇲 🇹🇹 Caribbean Massive
Caribbean’s need to stick together more
@mariasouth7983 BLACKS as a WHOLE need to stick together. Regardless of what our nationality is!
Caribeans also went through slavery not just here in America that’s how we know
The host did a wonderful job with the flow of her questions, answers and general conversation in this episode. Love it!
THIS IS FOR PEOPLE JUST PEOPLES WE BLACK PEOPLES AND WHITE PEOPLES HAVE LOST THERE JOBS OVER WORDS THE N WORD other word's TAKING BREAD FROM PEOPLES TABLE...BECAUSE THE WRONG WORD SLIPS OUTAND NO CONCERN FOR THERE KIDS I CAN GIVE MY OPION I CAN NOT CHANGE THE WORLD WE NEED MORE CONCERN ..MORE LOVE YOU CAN'T HURT WHAT YOU LOVE.....
These roundtables custructively critiquing the events of the season should replace the reunions and the destructive behavior that takes place within them. End each season on a high note with great takeaways such as this roundtable. Kudos to the producers and cast for this.
Joc is asking the QUESTIONS and I'm here for it!!! It's giving defensive! He was asking GREAT QUESTIONS and instead of getting defensive they should have been listening!! This was a great conversation!
I'm not American I am South African but this conversation was such a trigger, at first I was like the production is trying to save face but as I listened to the conversation, this was and is needed. It's not easy being a black human being period, it's universal. We are beautiful, powerful and amazing that why they so scared of us. We need to recognize the power and greatness that we truly are, embrace and silence negative narrative towards black ppl.
As an American to a South African 🫡 racism was perfected in that country. It’s scary to know hate can’t reach such a level. Over color, melanin, biology, literally factors beyond human control someone would want to end your life.
Very well said sisi💯
This is not a new segment they started it two seasons ago,where the cast found out their African ancestors.
Sending you love from cali❤️
What is "black"? Melanated? I don't get it. You all let yourselves be categorized. You've accepted it. Don't be mad. Be the change. I do not consent."half Puerto Rican half black", smh. Don't call me black, white, or anything else. The LGBTW has pronouns yeah? The species is human. Y'all need to get into how some of "them" are not HUMAN, go there.
I think Amara La Negra would’ve been a great addition to this conversation bc her first season she talked about Colorism/Racism she dealt with. Erica could’ve been invited as well, sat down separately.
Maybe part 2 can be Colorism/Racism within the Latin/Hispanic community. And then, if Erica can control herself, which I highly doubt, she along with Amara La Negra, Juju, Cyn Santana (who else) can be a part of that round table discussion. This one needed to be with black folks only.
I don't think Erica should be given anymore platforms. She had an opportunity to hear Yandy out and actually listen in the last episode but she didn't.
Yea they didnt care much about racism and colorism then. Nobody was outraged then. Only person that backed her was Juju.
Erica rejected the offer. Says a lot.
Heck Nah Erika Didn’t Need To Be There Period 🤎🤎🤎👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾