How BBC Radio 1Xtra RUINED Pirate Radio
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- Allan Mustafa and Hugo Chegwin AKA Grindah and Beats from BAFTA winning mockumentary 'People Just Do Nothing" started out on pirate radio. They reveal how it works, the legal issues, and how mainstream radio has ruined the pirate radio community.
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Delight FM - So Solid crew....I was lucky to go to school where my friends could get Delight but lived in an area where I could get HLC on radio. Takes me back to pretending to be a DJ on my 1210s in my bedroom. Those days were something else!
So solid sundays and nikki s nikey on Friday nights 🔥🔥🔥
@@palatialpetals Nikki S and Nyke! Wow thats a throw back
Being from north London I never acknowledged Delight because I couldnt get the frequency but I do remember Delight being featured in the 1st RWD Mag.
subjam, Choice FM, freak , Dejavu , heat fm and extreme fm was what I listened to.
Ssshhh
Those were the days 👌🏽💯
people just do nothing is legendary
I might try
I agree. There isn't much in the way of modern comedy that I like - I am very much a fan of the old 70's/80's sitcom era, but PJDN was the funniest thing I've seen for years. The characters all play their part, and gel well together. Excellent acting, brilliant show. 👏
@@LEEOC if you haven't seen it ...I envy you.
@@Bobbibouchersmumwasright they admitted there idea came from that...but look at what they did with it...based on what you say,no matter what has been done before is always copied...just enjoy the genius that they created...
@@petertupman9405 you contradict yourself be saying genius and created??? Should be copied and expanded on at best!
The pirate radio movement was an organic grassroots rebellious movement that the government couldn't tax, control or interfere with. Each area had their own base or bases of stations which scouted for the best local talent and gave a platform to them. People risked their lives to climb lift shafts and put up masts, studios got raided by the DTI and DJs would lose their records get fined and get criminal records for station involvement. This was all for the love of music as MCs and DJs used to pay subs to be on the station.
It’s like watching Einstein explain physics to a child 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤌
I think he understands more than he lets on. He's just trying to create a good interview by getting them to elaborate on certain topics.
@@davidb4165 jacks from norfolk and early 2000s was a massive illegal rave scene and culture especially coming out of the norfolk and suffolk crews big up brainskan 🌀 but jack definitely knows his stuff jus looking at it from the POV of his average listener
Big up da Sprowston massive
@@harveymorgs6083 cmon brev you only play banjos in Norfolk 😂😂 only joking all the best
The amount of pirate radio stories I have alone is crazy, can't imagine everyone else's. From angle grinders, tapping power, being chased with baseball bat's and crow bars, having a studio based out of a caravan to rigs being made out of mobile home parks 😂😂
crow balls
@@matthewkruse7131 😂😂 I'll edit it
Sounds like a buzz
There used to be a transmitter ontop of one the tower blocks on broad water farm Tottenham I remember some little dude got slung off the top tampering around with it from another station ,, proper wars too! back in those days
Renegade FM? That was a caravan in a scrap yard for time, crow bars, shotguns and police thrown into the mix 🤣
Internet killed it more than 1xtra. Nobody I knew quit listening to pirate radio for 1xtra lolol Music was important back in the day, and the underground genres played on pirate radio and at raves was cutting edge. It was our generations punk. And punk never dies ❤️🖤
Yeah but not dnb and grime etc are mainstream, where is the next generation’s musical genre gonna be played and rise up? Kid growing up in 10/20 years will look at dnb and grime as being olden days music and have their own thing but who’s going to play it without pirates?
@@StoutProper don't know tbf. I thought there wasn't going to be anything new after grime, but then dubstep started up.
Tbh I feel that music isn't as important to the generations who've grown up with internet and streaming services.
@@Dewsta26 there wasn’t going to be anything new 😂 how to tell me you’re a millennial. Son, every generation of teenagers has its own music, the previously generation think it’s crap and say music was better in their day. Of course there’s going to be new music. 80s Music like Kate Bush and Slick Rick is as old to teenagers today as Buddy Holly and Elvis was to teenagers growing up in the 90s. Biggie and Tupac are as old to them as the Beatles and the Rolling Stones were to 90s kids. In 2060, if we ever get there, grime and dubstep will sound as antiquated as that music did and they’ll have something completely different probably shaped by technology on phones or virtual reality or whatever that you’ll think is awful, but life goes on and music evolves, you know?
@@Dewsta26 I think kids today listen to more music, they’ve got access to hundreds of thousands of songs on their phones, they carry more music on them than most record shops had back in the day. And you’ve got services like Netflix and apps like Tiktok making both new and old songs go viral, because now as soon as kids hear a song they can Shazam it and download it and listen to it and listen to other songs by that artist and similar artists, that could never happen back in the day. It actually took me 40 years to track down a song and artist that I heard as a little kids and it was stuck in my head all my life and I only finally discovered who it was last year 😂
@@StoutProper they have access to everything now, yes. Which takes away the magic of having to swap tapes with friends from different areas, and hearing about illegal raves and walking 5 miles in pitch black forests following the bass line to find it 😀
Summed it up perfectly. I remember paying 5 pound for 2 hours on flava fm and temptation fm. Meeting all the difference crews and meeting difference flats/warehouses because police was always shutting us down was part of the rush. Some of my best memories in my life. Big up all the pirate radio boys!
I remember when Flava and Deja had beef.
I was on both them stations too. We probably crossed paths at a stage. 😁
We need to get hold of some more Flava FM sets, we have a few but need more. Temptation FM, now that's a throwback. 102.4FM that was a big station. We need to find some of their sets.
I was on temptation and flava, still know the owners well, good old days above chicken spot green lane, and container yards, wicked memories.
Still have a temptation fm t shirt, wore it just last week actually 🔥🔥🔥
Ice FM 88.4, Raw FM 90.0, Mac FM 92.7, Delight FM 103.0, Flex FM 103.6, Dream FM 107.6
It's mad how you can remember the most random things from core memories. Golden times:)
They play their characters so well for Kurupt FM this feels like they're playing a character.
@@michaelwebster6219 I'm going to give it a watch cheers. Probably watched it when it came out tbf lol
The difference is that they only act a comedic representation of the 90s. The reality was live
Yes, as a total outsider I do find that aspect of People Just Do Nothing puzzling. it is a satire on a scene that I always assumed belonged to the very early 2000s. It is like a show about a Skiffle band set in 1973. Or a Glam Rock act in 1990. It would just be, well, odd.
@@simonjones7727that’s the point though isn’t it? that Kurupt were stuck in the past
@@harveywatson2836 Yes, I think I get that, but isn't the scene just too far back given the age of the characters? I bow to the judgement of a younger generation though. I can follow every twist and turn of musical fashion from 1960 to about 1995 but after that I am mostly at sea. When did Jungle end? When did Grime begin? Dubstep? When did Dance Music stop being Euphoric? What happened to Happy Hardcore? Donk? Not a clue!
Kurupt FM is brilliant great guests to have on the pod 👏🏻
Don FM, Transmission One, Rush FM, Kool FM (on the 9.45) those were the days. pure riddims
being from SE London it was all about Upfront 99.3, but also so solid on Delight, Supreme, pay as you go (and later roll deep) on Rinse, De ja vu, but could also pick up EZ and Heartless on the north london stations
RIP Jamal Edwards
Atlantic 252 was the pirate radio station we could pick up in my teens. Was a much better mix of music than any commercial or BBC radio station. Loved its cult status and how many famous people would be interviewed despite its pirate status.
Yo !!!! I remember that station the soul and funk shows were great
Atlantic 252 wasn't a pirate station
@@nicon237 started off as one
It was a pirate station that became legit, same as Kiss.
They used the what is now the RTE transmitter in Tullamore
Felt like a grandad when they where explaining pirate radio but very clear explanation didn’t know that existed.
Nah man, he didnt. He missed the most important part, the crux of what makes them different- licensing.
It just so happened that the type of music that they wanted was underground. You could have a classical pirate radio station lol if the presenter never hinted, he probably wouldnt have said it.
I used to MC on the real Kurupt! Big up the Kingston crew!😅
MC Rhetoric boiiiii
Hahaha!! Yes digidigiDJ Fader!!
as a US head born in '00, this is so fucking dope to learn about. i live and breathe jungle/DnB/garage
We had silk city radio in Birmingham
Fiona always smashing it with the clips. Just a little bit of well deserved recognition for all the work that goes on behind the scenes. As much a legend as the boys in front of the camera (mics) 💛💛💛
Pjdn the story was all a copy from tower block dreams
David fancies Fiona!
Kool Fm, Force Fm, Mystery, Renegade... I was blessed in Essex had access to the best.
Used to love hosting for DJ mates, buzzing in a freezing cold, dirty studio wondering if we were going to either get busted or if the system would hold out and stay on air.
Mc's like Stevie Hyper and Skibbadee changed the balance of DJ's & MC's and the spotlight moved
Cyndicut FM was another top station.
Klass FM, Premier, Renegade, Lush, Mystery, Shakedown, Y2k, Cyndicut...
Fellow Essex boy here...
Premier was the one :)
@@WEBB-TECH how did I forget Premier? That was my favourite, even had a Premier FM sun strip on my old escort back in the day 🤣
I used to play Happy Hardcore on a Monday night b2b with Scott Devotion. I used to go by the name of Paul Stoned.
Premier was the benchmark for me and thats not me being biased. We had some of the best DJs and the quality of the presentation was a lot better than some of the other stations. We also had a proper good engineering team... And we transmitted in stereo :)
Best years of my life. Made some amazing friends. Some of them are no longer with us but they will never be forgotten.
I actually think I remember seeing an Escort with a Premier FM sunstrip on one time actually... It was 20 years ago and I used to consume a little too many little round things though
Back in the late 80s, I had access to all the underground American Hip Hop through pirate radio.
I have some awesome mixes on tape!
I used to record tapes of heartless crew on mission fm . I had mates in Essex who used to give me tapes of vapour when he was just starting out . Good times
Force Fm, I was into DnB but locked into force just for Vapour he killed it
Upload them if you still have them! Would love to hear
@@kevsairsoft vapour sets are on RUclips , heartless crew I was recording on cassette 😂
My brothers 5 years older than me, he grew up on pirate radio and I grew up on sbtv that’s definitely the progression
East London
2004 deja vu 92.3fm
Monday
8-10 Nastyyyyy
10-12 Roll deep
Those were the days
Luton town locked in was raw fm for me back in the pirate radio days Jamal was a legend put Luton on the map 👊🏼
A sound engineer/radio dj I used to know back when we did hospital radio shows (same night, separate slots) in the late 90s/early 00s also had a pirate set-up in his house which I guested on. He ended up on radio in Luton.
How old is this host lol. he looks older than me but i grew up with pirate radio stations and old school garage. and only listening to 21 seconds once?!?! bruh!!! I listened to that tune over a thousand times!! Its a classic
trading tapes at school and tuning into pirate stations, beautiful times
I had a sticker book 😬
Millennium FM in Luton was banging. Always played the latest UKG tracks. The pirate radio station days was a special time.
Miss Crazy D, on Unknown FM 90.2 (I think). Still got the tapes of her final show. Good times.
In London, 90.2FM was Magic FM , with MC Kie, Preshus, DJ Swirly... I thought Unknown FM 97.1? Which area are you talking of as there were different stations who took up the same frequencies in different areas.
I'd say we had it best in East; Rinse, Deja, Kool, Flava, Force. Great days. Cool clip 😊
Deja was the best, Still got so many sets I havent uploaded.. DJ P.L oldskool garage on a sunday, Nasty and Roll deep on a monday.
Rude aWakening was amazing for a few years and cyndicut fm both for dnb
@@lewisdowsett8390
youre the 1st person ive ever heard mention rude awakening. Once in a while I would listen to the station instead of kool fm or unknown fm.
@@grime_garage mainly where eksman and herbsie made their names In sets with dj chillem rip
@@lewisdowsett8390 I always got a tad confused with Ruud, Rude and Rude Awakening. Were they one and the same? Cyndicut was sick. There was also Erotic FM when Garage was Garage.
This whole seg, I was just thinking about Dave's "Capital's for everyone but the Choice was yours" line.
AM radio. There was no frequencies available on the FM wavelength, it was all full. But there was plenty of gaps on AM radio. And because nobody cared about AM radio, it meant that pirate radio was booming in the mid 90's to early 00's in London (for that genre of music)
I appreciate the comment brother 👊
Nonsense. Most of the big pirates were on FM. Watch the BBC documentary ‘Pirates’
All pirate stations I listened to which were many were on FM.
Pirate radio was good fun back in the day. I remember getting chase by the old bill. We went off air and run to the block thinking someone stole our rig. Turns out it was the police and DTI out in force! Luckily got away but the rig and aerials got smashed to bits. They didnt even take it away - just left it in pieces on the roof of the block. The 90's - best times ever! Oh and give up Steve the rig doctor - those that know ;)
Tower block dreams and killer and beats was the inspiration
I used to listen to Xtreme FM in N.London and the frequency clash was real. You’d get to Finchley and get a mix of Xtreme with LGR (London Greek Radio) 😂
venom crew, DJ Nightmare and Mc Ezgi. Delinquent, Piro and GTE
@@grime_garage don’t forget Supplier! If you believe the posters every weekend he had a club night for his bday bash 🤣
@@ChrisBeevor0511 Extreme FM used to do many events at club KO and Charlie Browns wine bar both in wood green and then Roldophs in Tottenham.. fun times.
@@grime_garage I remember it all!
My GF at the time knew the Landlords of O’Rafferty’s across the road from Charlie Browns. We’d go there for lock ins after KO. Good ol days.
Xtreme FM 101.6. We need some of their sets!!
About a year ago we had release fm in Reading, played some amazing house tracks, was shut down though unfortunately
Don't mention house in front of these two...!
Has someone been to Turkey?
I’m gonna have to head over to Spotify for the full thing, I love these guys!!
I grew up outta London country. Kool fm tapes or pirate radio tapes were how we kept up with the music.
It's actually funny, both tried to be MC's but it didn't work out for whatever reason but the way the system is now setup. Where the gentrification of the culture allows them to make a mockumentary and blow on the backend of that and fulfill their MC dreams.
There was a pirate radio station that came out of Bradford (I think) in the 80s that I used to listen to before it vanished...can't remember what it was called
Mount a pirates bk in the day in London late 80s - early 2000s Kool fm, rude, origin, magic, mission, erotic, freek, passion, shine 87.9… the list goes on!!! Good days good memories
You know the score!! Trust we were spoilt for choice!! Big up the North London crew, club Eros, Club UN (Club Temple/ Aztec Lounge), The Opera House...
Anyone remember eruption and freak fm in the early 90s? 🙌
Yeah, they were great, likewise with Rude, Kool and Rush
Freek FM 101.8 was a foundation station. You could argue it was them and Girls FM that set it all off for Garage, then London Underground FM, Ice FM, Deja Vu FM, Chicago FM and Pure Magic FM followed.
@@darkerarts You're right! Weekend Rush FM was a Foundation station for Hardcore and Jungle. Kool FM is an institution, unbeatable and unparalleled and if you ask me many pirate radio stations styled themselves on the Kool FM model.
The pod just keeps getting better I love it keep up the great work!
back in 90s they used pirate radio to say where the parties was and when they built the m25 it ripe for youngsters like ourselves to circle it for next update was big around Essex London way
PJDN was iconic - doesn’t get the credit it deserves
eh?? they won bafta's, thats heeps of credit....
The film was the cherry on the cake.
What do you even mean when you say it's "iconic"? That word doesnt even have any meaning anymore.
When you're winning awards, making films and crossed over from an original tiny audience I can say you got the credit.
Love the pod, great work as always ❤️
Grindah is actually a sick rapper as well. Got some old bangers on RUclips
Love to everyone on the pod from the hosts to those behind the scenes, jaack Alfie stevie Robbie Fiona Katie and more
Awesome work on the clips Fi!
Helter skelter mc. I’ve still got all my 90’s tapes in box, not in mint condition though
Used to be frequency FM in Leeds played all garage bassline and 4x4 was sick was on 91.6 I think . That was in like 2015 so not that long ago
I was a cab driver back in early 2000's. Always had a pirate station on in the car. One day got a job from a tower block. 3 teens/early 20's came and got in. They said 'oh you like garage, weve got a station' I said what frequency and went to tune in stereo. Their answer was its not on now to which i looked at them confused. I was expecting them to say got raided or something. No were here. Still confused they explained its only 3 of them and theyre going out so turned it off. Thats how small/amateur an operation some of the stations were.
Great story. Thanks for sharing it! Long live garage
Lucky to have grown up in the 90s in South West London. Went to the same school as Neutrino and met him a few times. Delight FM was our thing back then….
To this day as a 37 year old man I still think I’m an MC
Solid Sundays!! Nuff Said!
Mc grindah didn’t let the other guy speak interrupted him at every chance
Just like in the show 😂 I'm starting to think the show was an actual documentary and not a mockumentary
interrupted? more like inter-kurrupted... amiriiiiite?
Love this pod keep it up lads
Steve’s hair looking good 🔥
Love the pod.
Listened from day one 👌🏼
No mention of them ripping off Y2K and Tower block dreams? People claim they PJDN fan boys yet really dont know where these guys came from.
Jack is too clueless about this it’s too painful😂
He's too young to know about the mid 90's to early 00's pirate radio culture. Plus he grew up in Norfolk.
Nah I’m younger than Jack but I know all about it it’s because he’s just not into the dnb and jungle scene I’m not hating on him it’s just funny how clueless he is😅
Hes a host. Its all about making the guests sound like the experts on the subject.
@@insignificantaftermathPROJECTS yeah that’s true tbf
from like 16-19 I feel like Soundcloude embodied that niche globally fr
The guy is talking about texting a pirate radio station, I was listening to them before basic mobile phones. Me and my mates had cb radios to tell each other where to tune the dial, it was a fine line being able to pick it up....
Almost October 22. I’ve only just started watching this. Brilliant
Confused me there as I was thinking it's not October 'til the weekend never mind the 22nd and you're watching this vid clip now, but you mean PJDN which has been on the telly since 2014 (2012 for the pilot and on RUclips since 2011) and you meant 2022 - gotcha!
EDITED to add webisodes date
I still do t know why I’ve not watched the film, tv show is just comedy gold.
Love this! We used to fu*k around in Waterloo Park as kids running away from the 'Parkies' 😆
I listen to drum and bass and hardcore i can still find pirate radio in essex.
Yeah Essex still has strong culture of it!!
appreciation for their time and effort
Went to school in Chessington and grew up in Slammin Vinyl (Kingston apple Market). But ny Station was based out of Acton. Weird.
Great video guys! 😊
I am so obsessed with Kurupt FM / PJDN 🤣
From the live stream and also loving the pod ✨️
Delight fm oi oi.. wasn't that 1030fm or something like that.. memories
Solid Sundays
Amazing video keep it coming ❤
Big up Decoy!🏴☠️✨
Shout out to the man like Fantasy!
@@ManWalksDogs Fantasy!🏴☠️✨
absolute legends
I've always thought running a pirate radio would be sick! Big ups kurrupt fm ;)
The cost of the licence to broadcast costs Millions. In Australia they fuck you up real bad if you even try broadcasting illegally. Its like poachin the Queens Deer.
I remember early 90’s 2000’s I’d tune into those radio stations and I could never pick them up that well on my radio, but you knew was pirate
The first time I heard "In-sihde the ride" was at something like Skelter or Dreamscape (the "commercial" raves of the nineties), I prolly have a tape somewhere of a Jungle emcee dropping it as part of hosting, but it was Garage Pirates and Garage in general where it sort of became ubiquitous and I am willing to posit that that was paryl because of the closed shop that Jungle became once the Drum n Bass sound took over.
The dubplate culture gave the original Jungle DJs exclusivity and making it almost impossible to penetrate to circle gave DnB emcees their staked-out territory (Grime was partially a response to that, lots of the original Grime emcees wanted to do DnB, but there was no way in, so they did there own thing)...and there is also the complicated situation around Jungle and the perception of it as a music for criminals (UK racism, gross). Which was spun in several ways, there was the "Its not safe for white people" narrative, there was the "Ragga samples bring in rude boys and yard men" narrative and a fear from within the scene, at all levels, that the mainstream was jumping on Jungle too fast and it was getting exhausted. Things got messy and it culminated in a bunch of DJs and Producers setting up a commission, in which, like a bunch of scared children and not the rock-hard mafioso they were inferring they were with the implication of the terminology, they decided "No more Ragga and Soul samples, no more Jungle, its DnB"*. Which, although it didn't ruin Jungle or DnB, it did lead to a sort of accidental racist side-effect where black producers, who were more inclined to use samples from the music they grew up with (i.e Reggae, Ragga, Soul, that sweet sweet "Lovers Rock" Reggae that charmed all of my aunties), were sidelined in favour of white producers who would use more techno influences and even (gawd forgive us all) Metal.... In the meantime out of the back rooms came UK Garage, "Speed Garage" (to mark it separate from the Garage style of US House), using all of the"verboten" samples, the bouncing basslines, even 4/4s. I remember reading that when Mixmag or some other comedown skinning up mat asked Grooverider what he thought of the emerging Speed Garage, he slammed the phone down in disgust, like the crybaby he actually is behind those ridiculous sunglasses ...still love him though, even if he can't mix anymore.
...anyway, big ups to Kurrupt FM and all the gyal dem and all the man dem and all the enby dem, that love UKG and/or Jungle... and thank you Kurupt for giving us crones from the nineties something to smile about, something to cringe at something to laugh at, something to weep in beautiful melancholy over, characters to love and the mid-track rewind.
Truly up there with Galton and Simpson in terms of comedic characters that you can loath, love, laugh at and feel sadness for. Rare talents.
*All of which would have been hilarious, because its a bunch of grown men talking about music and culture over earnestly and looking like a bunch of wallies setting out the rules for their treehouse/den. If it were not for the racial element of the outside media and the fact that at some point there were threats of violence and death and some even say that guns were pulled, not at the so-called commission meeting but afterwards or to do with it, its all very messy, silly, infantile and it reflected badly on Jungle Bass n Drum and all the Junglists who adored the music and the dancing and didn't give a fiddlers fuck about dudes egos and were trying to escape the horrible reality of living in the country that pretty much invented modern racism and The English Establishment System that can only thrive whilst the myriad peoples of the UK are divided.
Great comment 👍
Love this episode!!
I never listened to the pirates but I think every good music venue should have its own radio transmitter. The New Cross Inn or the late Montague Arms should have a transmitter to broadcast the gigs from anarcho-punk to indie pop, Shoegaze to psychobilly, as they happen. Live gigs on the air format.
UK for ever I'll never stop djing and producing and mcing to garage
Anyone remember happy hard-core 😊 tape trading loved it
Loved it. Club kinetic
Never heard these two talk so seriously
its beats and grinder here to make ya hyper
These guys where my childhood 😂😂 DJ Steve's and chabuddy g next time please jack 👍
Chabuddy G (Asim Chaudhry) has already been on the pod and he was claaaaassss! Check out ep 186 of Happy Hour on Spotify 🤙
@@HappyHourPodcast will do thanks 😍 definitely need steves
Constructive criticism: can you please name the Spotify episodes a bit better I couldn't find it until I clicked on the link in the description (ideally name in the front cus Spotify shows first 20 or so letters first)
Heatwave & Rave FM were my favourites back in the day
Crazy! I remember those days. Grindah nails it.😂❤
I remember when I was on freeze fm ! The reach was a madness .. I’ve been on several pirates , freeze was the best
nice one jack and stevie!
Love the podcast ❤
What has happened to Jack's mouth?
I hope he was at least paid/sponsored to get those daft keys stuck in his gob
good ,man JAACK good guest yet again.
7:49 INNNNSIDE 😂
Jack why did you make the live stream from yesterday private ?? 😔😔😔
Great work 👍
Why would you let kurupt fm, sit there and lie to you, the whole pirate radio life they say they lived isn’t true, they have watched Tower Block Dreams and just copied it, made up some funny characters and put it together and made a comedy tv series, I don’t mean to put them down because I enjoy what they do but the life they are telling you about was never their life, it’s someone else’s.
Forgot to say, Charlie Sloth was also on an episode of Tower Block Dreams, when he was younger, He has completely changed his life from how he was living back then, How did you not know about any of this.
Yeh man, ask anyone from the 2000's if kurupt was a station in chessington Kingston
Killa even mentioned there was never a kurrupt fm because he would rob everyone’s Aerials so he knew all the names of stations
I used to listen to Unity FM and Syndicate FM.
Miss the old days so much