Awesome homemade rabbit cages with PVC stand and a great waste collection system

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  • Опубликовано: 23 окт 2024

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  • @maplecreekfarmpnw
    @maplecreekfarmpnw Год назад +1

    You have some excellent ideas! Thank you for sharing.

  • @ShellsFurrBabies
    @ShellsFurrBabies 3 года назад +5

    Love the setup here. I wish you wouldve made a video when you was making the pvc stands, so we can know how to do it ourselves to :-)

  • @robindunn89
    @robindunn89 3 года назад +1

    I know this was posted quite awhile ago, but that system is great! I can’t wait to try it when we get our rabbits! Thanks for sharing.

  • @CDaySunday
    @CDaySunday 9 лет назад +2

    Just built one out of wood because my buns are litter-trained, but definitely incorporating some of your ideas into it. Nicely done and well worked.

  • @davidmerchant8245
    @davidmerchant8245 9 лет назад +14

    You should show how you built the frames out of PVC. I would like to see how you did this. All I saw was your poop removal system.

  • @thomasrossetti639
    @thomasrossetti639 8 лет назад +1

    Excellent job on this Joel. I plan on doing some Rabbit Farming up in Cambodia and was looking at so many videos but none really worked for me. I didn't want to use a wood frame as I remember through experience how messy that can be. I saw the wooden frames with suspended wire and thought , ok, not bad. Then I saw your PVC and waste collection system. Brilliant! It is almost too clean and orderly as I want to combine with Vermicomposting and thought I would make some kind of collection system on the bottom to utilize space. Still thinking about that one but I do like the separation of urine and feces that you have. Really nice, thanks a bunch.

    • @suesueg74
      @suesueg74 8 лет назад +1

      +Thomas Rossetti We are also going to do this but I was thinking about making it higher so I could use two 5 gallon buckets as a poo collection where the urine/water would drain out of the poo.

  • @shirleybodoh4877
    @shirleybodoh4877 6 лет назад +2

    Great set-up. Thanks for the info.

  • @cleancarnivore
    @cleancarnivore 8 лет назад +1

    Not sure what you have in the way of instructions but it would be wonderful if you have it documented somehow. I absolutely loved it. I have drooled over Rabbitech for YEARS. This looks totally doable. I used to raise NZW for meat. I had a crummy set up and always wanted to upgrade. Thanks for the video.

  • @lesliewestphall9922
    @lesliewestphall9922 8 лет назад +1

    thank you Joel for the video on the pvc cage stands. i hade made mine out of 3/4 and designed them with trays. they still tended to wobble a bit. so i have re done with 2x3 lumber. not as happy with this design. do you have more pictures you could share of your stands, how many cages they hold and anything else you think would help to try your design. thanks again Leslie.

  • @dimasputra7450
    @dimasputra7450 7 лет назад

    woooow niiiice cages..thankyou for sharing this nice idea..

  • @floot6799
    @floot6799 6 лет назад

    I think this is a great video. For those thatn want to know how to build with PVC, maybe you should revisit lego. .... Normally PVC that I have looked at seem flimsy but this one looks fabulous. The trick with a PVC system is first build or purchase your rabbit cages and then start from there... tyvm Joel

  • @betsybloomer5289
    @betsybloomer5289 8 лет назад +2

    I would love your pic measurements for the cage holders. They are so well done.

  • @president89
    @president89 6 лет назад

    This is cool. I like the idea of not having the pee soak into a wooden hutch.

  • @sisterseekingilm
    @sisterseekingilm 8 лет назад +1

    great job, I appreciate it! You gave me some good ideas. I already made a 4 ft. by 3 ft all wire cage, but I want it off the ground and easier to collect manure ;)

    • @joelrfarmer
      @joelrfarmer  8 лет назад

      sweet I hope it works for you.

  • @homeschoolmom7519
    @homeschoolmom7519 7 лет назад +2

    Awesome! I use a very similar set up with the wavy plastic under all cages with screens to catch the poop and tubs to catch the urine. Over time I have found gunk really likes to build up on the plastic and nothing likes to slide off anymore. Mine are very hard to reach to clean. I eventually cleaned them and covered them with heavy duty plastic, like people put on their windows in the winter. That helped a lot. i wonder if there is anything you could spray on them to keep them nice and slick.

    • @ceepark114
      @ceepark114 6 лет назад

      This is the problem I thought would happen with using the corigated plastic sheets, over time the feces and urine would build up and calcify, then it wouldn't slip down with gravity anymore.

  • @teachbearcop
    @teachbearcop 4 года назад +2

    You’ve had this setup for 5 years. Is it holding up? Would you adjust the angle or make any other changes?

    • @itzybitzy479
      @itzybitzy479 4 года назад

      I would love to see an update too and guide how to actually build the pipe system 😊

  • @wendybraswell9405
    @wendybraswell9405 8 лет назад +3

    please send measurements for your pvc unit and since I am unfamiliar with any pvc connecting, cost for a 8 rabbit independently housed cage unit, could you estimate the cost I may be looking at for 8 cages. thanks so much for any advice you could provide.

  • @teresarunion5640
    @teresarunion5640 7 лет назад +2

    Just watched your video. Love the corrugated plastic idea. Would it be possible to get more detailed instructions?

  • @beautyhomeschool
    @beautyhomeschool 8 лет назад

    This is absolutely amazing! Thanks so much for sharing.

  • @carmences4477
    @carmences4477 9 лет назад

    what an awesome idea! I'll be on my way to Home Depot tomorrow and get started! My husband's rabbit hutch is great, BUT not easily accessible (you have to lift a very heavy top and then climb in...it's a real pain).

  • @rittaslusher2369
    @rittaslusher2369 7 лет назад

    very good idea thanks for sharing

  • @honeyy79
    @honeyy79 8 лет назад +7

    Loving this. would you make a written guide for us? :) Thanks.

  • @maliacole4348
    @maliacole4348 9 лет назад +1

    hello. I am planning to build my first rabbit hutch and I really like the pvc idea. did you zip tie the cages to the pvc? may you please give me more instructions on how you built the structure? Thank you!!

  • @atlantastark9470
    @atlantastark9470 9 лет назад

    I really like this idea. this is a great idea.

  • @chugalug63
    @chugalug63 8 лет назад

    Joel this setup looks great! Good Job Brother

  • @iceman421
    @iceman421 3 года назад

    My only concern is pvc can flex in longer lengths.
    Did you glue all your connections together? If you don’t it’s easier to to adjust later.
    The waste system is a great idea!
    Trying to figure out what I can do in Alaska when it freezes 6 months of the year?

  • @joelrfarmer
    @joelrfarmer  9 лет назад

    Jacob it is and inch and a quarter PVC schedule 40. it's holding up great. the only thing that I would change is I'd make it a little bit taller, so I could have more of an angle on the feces catch trays underneath the cages. and then also the catcher at the end needs to be more at angle as well. Other than that it works like a champ any more questions feel free to ask.

    • @Manlette
      @Manlette 9 лет назад

      Joel Farmer I know you just posed this comment but I have some questions. What angle would you consider correct 1%, 2%? How often do you flush the system? I am going to make a 12 foot rack based on your design with 4 cages in-line all outside with a roof. I currently have 5 doe and 1 buck. I am concerned about the weight. I plan on using 1.5 in. pvc you think I should use 2 in? If you would like I have some plans I could send you to review.... Thanks,

    • @joelrfarmer
      @joelrfarmer  9 лет назад

      Manlette by all means please send me a copy of your plans and I would love to take a look at them and give you any suggestions along with the dimensions..

    • @harvestblades
      @harvestblades 8 лет назад

      How did your PVC rabbitry work out? Did you use 1.5" or 2"? Do you have a video or plans available?

  • @d.bartholomew50
    @d.bartholomew50 8 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the video. Question: I like the edging on the cage entry, but what's the name of the white material surrounding, or the metal entry? You stated it was for ceiling tiles.

  • @papasfatcat8648
    @papasfatcat8648 9 лет назад

    Great ideas. Got to try some of them.

  • @billyfophillie4884
    @billyfophillie4884 8 лет назад

    Very good idea

  • @Lemon-yb5fg
    @Lemon-yb5fg 2 года назад

    Hey there I would love the measurements and directions of how to build the pvc stand. My cages are the same measurements as yours.

  • @kevywilliams3304
    @kevywilliams3304 Год назад

    Nice . I don’t understand what is holding up the cages ? The pvc?

  • @Chantilly871
    @Chantilly871 7 лет назад

    Hi, we built this system for our rabbits, kuddos on the design...having trouble with hay clogging up the poop draining. Do you have any suggestions? I do provide bedding hay as well as the eating hay up in the hay feeders

  • @tamaraaunapu1719
    @tamaraaunapu1719 3 года назад

    How did you build PVC cage holder? Deminsions? How many cages does it hold? Etc.

  • @chantellstoop7964
    @chantellstoop7964 6 лет назад +1

    Hi. Could you possibly send me the actual pipe measurements, pipe diameters and a total list of fittings and there sizes, etc that I will need to build the pvc stand that you made in this video. Seeing as how I am trying to do all the work myself, this is the ideal solution for me. Kind regards

  • @shawnadenney-land6139
    @shawnadenney-land6139 5 лет назад +4

    Thank you for sharing this video. Do you have the measurements or plans for the pvc stand? What sizes of pvc did you use and what angle did you set the drains at? Thank you again!

    • @conspiracytheorista8988
      @conspiracytheorista8988 5 лет назад +1

      Looks like he just teases the internet with his awesome design and we have to figure it out for ourselves ;)

  • @joanfox3906
    @joanfox3906 3 года назад

    Loved your designs. Do you have more detailed list. Im very hard to learn anything new. Pvc drainage system. I need this.

  • @nurdiana7876
    @nurdiana7876 8 лет назад

    i love it so much thanks you..

  • @adelm.hassan6737
    @adelm.hassan6737 4 года назад

    well done

  • @asterixky
    @asterixky 6 лет назад

    I don't separate poop and urine anymore. With a few gallons of water used to wash the angled poop trays, it dissolve the pee to acceptable levels to which my plants love.

  • @traceyaardema6435
    @traceyaardema6435 5 лет назад +1

    Would love to have measurements/plans of the pvc frame and materials pls

  • @ramsesneilsoto
    @ramsesneilsoto 8 лет назад

    loved your manure n urine mgt system. it was to bad your automatic watering sys, where do you think it went wrong?

  • @MozelleP2V
    @MozelleP2V 2 года назад

    This is a brilliant set up. I only wish he had spent as much time on the pvc construction as he did the cages. I also wish he had backed up just a bit so the entire set up could be seen in one picture rather than such tight detail shots. I'm trying my best to duplicate it, but he sure did not make it easy.

  • @killroywashere1254
    @killroywashere1254 7 лет назад

    I HAD A RABBIT RANCH IN WASHINGTON STATE AND I WATERED 200 RABBITS OUT OF ONE 5 GALLON BUCKET. Water is always level. You drill a hole in the bottom of a 5 gallon bucket put a plastic tubing in it, then you drill a hole in the top of the bucket put a real good float in the top hole hook up a water line to the float. take that plastic tubing at the bottom of the bucket take it out to your rabbit cages. take the tubing in front of every cage you have. put a ( T ) in the tubing at every cage, drill a hole in every water bowl close to the top about half a inch or one inch put a tube in that hole take that tube attach it to the ( T ) do that to every water bowl in every cage. MAKE SURE EVERY WATER BOWL IS AT THE SAME LEVEL NOT A FRACTION OFF. Then go turn on the water when the float starts putting water in the bucket raise the 5 gallon bucket so the float will be the same height as the water bowls water level set the bucket on a sturdy stand that wont move and change the height. you might have to adjust the float several times to get the water level adjusted. have a small round bowl but deep to allow for the travel of the float in the 5 gallon bucket. if you put a lid on the 5 gallon bucket you will have drill a vent hole in the lid. with that float you won't need a regulator just use regular water pressure might have to put the small tubing iv a insulated pipe in the winter.

  • @Obiter3
    @Obiter3 5 лет назад

    Great idea!

  • @d.bartholomew50
    @d.bartholomew50 8 лет назад

    Thank you for the video. Concerning the hay "boxes".... did you cut out a piece of the cage (where they can get to the hay), or do the rabbits have to reach thru the cage wire to pull the hay out/down? I have the same concern with loss of hay "falling thru" the bottom of the cage wire.

    • @joelrfarmer
      @joelrfarmer  8 лет назад

      yes I have them pull it through the wire. that way they pull out just what they are eating, with minimal waste.

  • @mikeriverajr4447
    @mikeriverajr4447 8 лет назад

    do you have the dimension on the rabbit nesting box. . . i need to build one for my rabbit. . . also if do you know where the best place to get the wire to build the cages fore cheap at?

  • @amandathomas5789
    @amandathomas5789 6 лет назад

    what do you attach the cages to the pvc with? could you make a video showing how or is there one i know this is an older video but definitely would like to try and make some of these

  • @barrydy
    @barrydy 8 лет назад

    great idea. nice!

  • @LionsLamb79
    @LionsLamb79 3 года назад

    What was the name of the plastic stripping you used on the door frame to protect your arm from scraping?

  • @suesueg74
    @suesueg74 8 лет назад +1

    Joel Framer, Could you tell me what size pvc you used?

  • @thomasrossetti639
    @thomasrossetti639 9 лет назад

    I really love this idea but I think I see a small flaw that maybe you can walk me thru. It's the hay waste factor. Even the smart way you use it there is some that is bound to fall. Will it not clog up the capturing system? Thanks

  • @inframundoAZ
    @inframundoAZ 7 лет назад

    Congrats, could you let me know if did you use 2 inches pvc pipes for the rabbit stand

  • @joelrfarmer
    @joelrfarmer  8 лет назад

    good I'm glad it will work for you.

  • @pointsevenout2188
    @pointsevenout2188 6 лет назад

    Which side of the wire is up? The 1/2" side or the 1" side? Which is better for the rabbit to stand on?

  • @kitkat81
    @kitkat81 9 лет назад

    Very neat

  • @avabobava2101
    @avabobava2101 8 лет назад

    How did you attach the wire to the PVC? I'm building a rat cage out of PVC but I do t know how to attach the wire... I know you can't do staples or nails... Any tips???

  • @dsw3131
    @dsw3131 8 лет назад +1

    What are those hangers you used to hang the PVC drain pipes off the end? I've never seen those before.

    • @joelrfarmer
      @joelrfarmer  8 лет назад +1

      they are PVC hangers- m.homedepot.com/p/Sioux-Chief-2-in-PVC-DWV-J-Hook-Pipe-Hanger-HD553-7W/202274025

  • @Bromeo4u2002
    @Bromeo4u2002 5 лет назад

    I like your system. Would that setup work outside

  • @greghays6794
    @greghays6794 5 лет назад

    Is this set up inside your home.

  • @larryhaydon
    @larryhaydon 7 лет назад

    Question: What would be the best food for our rabbits if we have no rabbit food. We live on a small Island here in the Philippines and have been feeding them local leafs from fruit trees, grass, and fruit (ex. carrots, cucumber, squash, apples, and oranges) is that enough?

    • @MLCelaya317
      @MLCelaya317 7 лет назад

      TOM JONES those things are quite high in sugar. . You dont have access to food or at least hey or hay bales for horses? Try to stick to herbs and green, low sugar veggies. maybe one or two tiny pieces of fruit a day

    • @MLCelaya317
      @MLCelaya317 7 лет назад

      TOM JONES those things are quite high in sugar. . You dont have access to food or at least hey or hay bales for horses? Try to stick to herbs and green, low sugar veggies. maybe one or two tiny pieces of fruit a day

    • @killroywashere1254
      @killroywashere1254 7 лет назад

      gemco MAKES A PELLET MILL, MAKES PELLETS OUT OF GRASS, BARLEY. CORN, LEAVES, AND EVERY THING ELSE YOU NEED FOR YOUR RABBITS. THEY SELL THEM ON EBAY ALSO PLUS CHINA HAS A LARGE LINE OF PELLET MILLS.

  • @24Shantel
    @24Shantel 9 лет назад

    I would like to build a PVC Stand like this one over the weekend, do you have a supply list that I could go by or a step by step video?

  • @joh05058
    @joh05058 8 лет назад +1

    Can I get the measurements and plans for your PVC waste collection system and cage holder? Love this set up!

    • @joelrfarmer
      @joelrfarmer  8 лет назад

      I don't have them anymore sorry.

  • @pepenazarov8368
    @pepenazarov8368 9 лет назад

    Don't you find the PVC starting to sag and bow with time? Wondering how this worked out for you after a few months. Looks like a great setup.

    • @joelrfarmer
      @joelrfarmer  9 лет назад

      it is the same as the day I built it. the rods are so close to the tee bracket that they take most of the weight. I am in the process of making a new rabbit hutch this one is more of the traditional but with all the bells an whistles. it will be posted in a week or two. thanks for asking though.

    • @pepenazarov8368
      @pepenazarov8368 9 лет назад

      I'd like to see the new one.

    • @joelrfarmer
      @joelrfarmer  9 лет назад

      It will be coming soon.

  • @julzzwatson6053
    @julzzwatson6053 9 лет назад

    Hi, i love your pvc rabbit stand. Any chance you can forward my the measurements, as I am struggling to get my runoff right. And I love how you have done yours better than how I currently have mine. Thanks

    • @joelrfarmer
      @joelrfarmer  9 лет назад

      I would love to but I have sold it. sorry for the inconvenience.

    • @julzzwatson6053
      @julzzwatson6053 9 лет назад

      Ok, thanks anyway

  • @kevingorzek
    @kevingorzek 9 лет назад

    How is the poo collection system working a year out? Have you solved the leaky automatic waterer problem yet? I've tried chicken water nipples that the rabbits love chewing through the plastic on and I've tried screwing water bottle drinker tops to a hose and they can't handle the water pressure from gravity. I have some all metal rabbit specific drinker nipples on the way that will hopefully do the trick.

    • @joelrfarmer
      @joelrfarmer  9 лет назад

      +Kevin Gorzek ..........
      I’m in the process of making a new one. I sold the old one and made a more traditional one out of wood. But with the wood one I did find a better way to collect the waste. It works great. The water I found a great way to supply the water to them with no hassles. It is all in the video I will attach. When I have the next PVC one done I will post it. I have updated and added a few things, like a hands free Waterier to flush the waste which is set on a timer, the collection system which you will see on the video, and the water system. I hope this helps.
      ruclips.net/video/YTWUxmagYu4/видео.html

    • @joelrfarmer
      @joelrfarmer  9 лет назад

      +Kevin Gorzek www.klubertanz.com/
      I forgot to give you the website where I get all of my supplies, for rabbits, chickens almost all small animals. The water nipples on the new cage I purchased through here and they work like a champ.

  • @crummy-tp9gn
    @crummy-tp9gn 9 лет назад

    would this work also for quail? looks pretty good.

  • @amyfreeze9772
    @amyfreeze9772 8 лет назад

    love it

  • @roberthicks5542
    @roberthicks5542 8 лет назад

    Joel. Are you experiencing any issues where they are urinaring out over the plastic drop sheeting?

    • @joelrfarmer
      @joelrfarmer  8 лет назад

      no I haven't. if you have please share and what you did to fix the issue.

  • @pinemeadowshobbyfarmafruga8319
    @pinemeadowshobbyfarmafruga8319 8 лет назад

    I have been looking for an easily clean rabbitry, this will do me just fine, and at a cost savings. Thanks.
    I just subbed you channel, you have some ideas I can glean from for use over here at Pine Meadows Hobby Farm's channel. AWESOME.

  • @donneobispo10
    @donneobispo10 6 лет назад

    new sub here may i ask if the cages are zip tied to the pvc pipes? if not, how are they attached?

  • @joelrfarmer
    @joelrfarmer  9 лет назад +1

    I just got notification that you guys saw it. how did it turn out for you. did you see anything that would make it better? please let me know I would love the feedback. thank you for the comments.

  • @nancywollm3782
    @nancywollm3782 8 лет назад +1

    can you share the plan for this cage system. It is exactly what we have been thinking of building.

  • @fousies
    @fousies 6 лет назад

    What’s the wavy plastic sheeting called?

  • @timboersma3805
    @timboersma3805 8 лет назад

    Hi Joel, nice video. I live in the Philippines and would like to build the same PVC system. do you have plans or list of required components? on the corrugated drip system how much slope required. thanks. you can message me at RUclips.

    • @joelrfarmer
      @joelrfarmer  8 лет назад

      sorry I don't have the measurements anymore.

    • @timboersma3805
      @timboersma3805 8 лет назад

      +Joel Farmer Thanks, I stopped the video and saw it in the freezed frame and got a better look, should be no problem. Thanks.

  • @joelrfarmer
    @joelrfarmer  9 лет назад +1

    David I'll see if I have pictures of us building it.

  • @Njennings42
    @Njennings42 8 лет назад

    how has the pvc stood up so far? pretty good?

    • @joelrfarmer
      @joelrfarmer  8 лет назад +1

      it has held up very well. it's over a year now and the only thing I have changed is, instead of the 4 cages I just have 2 now. one on top and one on the bottom. this has become my grow out pens. I'm working on one now that they will be side by side and not stacked just for ease of access. this way I will be able to incorporate a roof on it and it won't have to be so tall. I'll post it when it's done.

    • @joelrfarmer
      @joelrfarmer  8 лет назад

      it has held up very well. it's over a year now and the only thing I have changed is, instead of the 4 cages I just have 2 now. one on top and one on the bottom. this has become my grow out pens. I'm working on one now that they will be side by side and not stacked just for ease of access. this way I will be able to incorporate a roof on it and it won't have to be so tall. I'll post it when it's done.

  • @louisegoudge4980
    @louisegoudge4980 8 лет назад

    is it possible to get the plans and eqipment needed to build the pvc stand

    • @joelrfarmer
      @joelrfarmer  8 лет назад

      I don't have the plans any more sorry.

  • @joelrfarmer
    @joelrfarmer  8 лет назад

    yup it is ceiling tile edging

  • @GambisRestorations
    @GambisRestorations 9 лет назад

    Is that 1-/14 and does it hold well?

    • @joelrfarmer
      @joelrfarmer  9 лет назад

      Hey Jacob I left a comment on the board answering all your questions feel free to take a look at that if you have any more then give me a shout thanks for looking by

  • @joelrfarmer
    @joelrfarmer  8 лет назад

    thank you.

  • @ronvymathews1225
    @ronvymathews1225 8 лет назад

    excellent ! impressive !

  • @toa1951
    @toa1951 9 лет назад

    could I get your plans to build the stand, and how strong is it for their weight?

    • @joelrfarmer
      @joelrfarmer  9 лет назад

      Timothy Allen I'm sorry to say i do not have the plans anymore. Weight wise i tested it by putting 50 lbs of free weights in each one of the cages and left it there for a few days. Anything above that i could not tell you. But for myself I'm not planning on put anything over 50 lbs in it. I hope that helps you out a little bit.

  • @joelrfarmer
    @joelrfarmer  9 лет назад

    thank you

  • @atlantastark9470
    @atlantastark9470 8 лет назад

    could I have a full list of what materials you used?

    • @joelrfarmer
      @joelrfarmer  8 лет назад

      +Atlanta Stark sorry I don't have a list anymore.

    • @atlantastark9470
      @atlantastark9470 8 лет назад

      +Joel Farmer That was fast. But thank you anyways :)

  • @jonahmaples3532
    @jonahmaples3532 7 лет назад

    How much did all of this cost?

  • @limeabeen1231
    @limeabeen1231 9 лет назад +2

    The idea is amazing and it looks awesome, but you shouldnt have bare wires as a bottom for your bunnies. They can get horrible foot problems and may not be able to walk if they continue to have that. Rabbit feet are like ours, if we were to stand on wire everyday, with our weight, we wound also have feet problems. Other than that, it looks awesome and its very creative!

    • @joelrfarmer
      @joelrfarmer  9 лет назад +1

      I have never had a problem with it but perhaps you could be correct. But as long as I've been doing it I haven't had that issue.

    • @amandalee1141
      @amandalee1141 9 лет назад +1

      I agree. No animal should stand on wire for their whole lives. Great design except for that.

    • @joelrfarmer
      @joelrfarmer  9 лет назад

      +Amanda Lee thank you for your remarks.

  • @salmonhunter7414
    @salmonhunter7414 8 лет назад

    what angle due you use to drain the urn

  • @joelrfarmer
    @joelrfarmer  8 лет назад +1

    they were 5"

  • @cliffdonally2917
    @cliffdonally2917 6 лет назад

    Hi could you send me the measurements

  • @shamimparvez7373
    @shamimparvez7373 9 лет назад +2

    This cage is bad for rabbits legs

    • @joelrfarmer
      @joelrfarmer  9 лет назад +2

      I haven't had any issues with the cage for rabbits and works great. But thank you for your concern.

    • @asterixky
      @asterixky 6 лет назад

      Same here, no issues. They even prefer laying down on the 1/2 x 1 wire than laying down on the tile I placed in their cage.

  • @parrotbill
    @parrotbill 7 лет назад

    Great Idea!