We Have NEVER Seen This Machine Before! | Kitchen & Walker Horizontal Facing Borer

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  • @CuttingEdgeEngineering
    @CuttingEdgeEngineering  2 года назад +374

    What did you think of our new to us machine? Very happy we got our hands on it & can't wait to put it to work! 😎👍
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    • @OB1canblowme
      @OB1canblowme 2 года назад +14

      Seeing as you're going to modify the machine, I would suggest the first thing to be to replace the old limit switches for the faceplate. You never know when those feel like failing and new ones is a cheap life insurance

    • @importanttingwei7747
      @importanttingwei7747 2 года назад +2

      Kurtis get a DMG MORI CNC that does line,boring, milling and turning all in one setup I'm sure there're happy to help

    • @mars6433
      @mars6433 2 года назад +4

      @9:15 Before you turn it on, I'd call in the "Safety Inspector" and maybe give him a bribe.

    • @clydebalcom3679
      @clydebalcom3679 2 года назад +5

      Are you going to need the banana ruler? Maybe tape one to the side of the table 🤔 😏?

    • @brettwebb86
      @brettwebb86 2 года назад +15

      I'm not a machinist but regarding the manual handle that nearly took out your knee could you put a gentle spring with two washers that would eject the handle when not in use?
      A spring that not to strong to be annoying while holding in and spinning but enough to eject the handle.

  • @matthoward923
    @matthoward923 2 года назад +46

    Kurtis as a customer you just made my day. You stuck around and let the truck driver unload after hours. You didn’t goof around unloading. Way cool dude

  • @ukoldgit
    @ukoldgit 2 года назад +90

    As a now 71 year old ex Toolmaker from the UK I can only say you Sir are an exceptionally lucky boy, I worked one of these in the early 1960s, it is such a solid machine you will never be able to replicate it, so if it needs some restoration do the work, you will not be sorry.

  • @michaelfrancis7072
    @michaelfrancis7072 2 года назад +199

    As a 70 year old from the UK, I can well remember using a K&W Radial Drill during the manufacture of diesel engines for UK trains. These drills were bulletproof, and I reckon you have a great machine there. Have a great weekend, and thanks Homey for giving it your seal of approval.

    • @Gorbyrev
      @Gorbyrev 2 года назад +4

      Which manufacturer did you work for sir?

    • @chrisfairbrother9197
      @chrisfairbrother9197 2 года назад +10

      We had a K&W radial drill as well for about 20 years drilling deep waterways (40”) in injection mould tools. As you said, bulletproof.

    • @TristanKent
      @TristanKent 2 года назад +9

      We still have one in our workshop ☺️ (Scotland)

    • @ukoldgit
      @ukoldgit 2 года назад +12

      @@Gorbyrev The one that had the K&W was a Company called Deep Sea Seals, they made high pressure shaft seals for submarines, that was the first time I had to sgn the Oficial Secrets Act :) :)

    • @Gorbyrev
      @Gorbyrev 2 года назад +4

      @@ukoldgit Fantastic. Sound similar to McTaggart Scott, our local defence engineering firm in Midlothian.

  • @denniss5512
    @denniss5512 2 года назад +19

    You are really assembling a state of the art 1950's machine shop there! Nothing more satisfying than a good manual machine job. Any tech school grad can run a CNC, Takes a real machinist to do all the long hand math and setups.

    • @JanBinnendijk
      @JanBinnendijk 7 месяцев назад

      Any Tech school Grad maybe can PROGRAM a CNC.. if you don't know anything about machining.. it is like giving a computer to a Monkey..Running a CNC requires the same skill as running a manual machine + programming the darn thing..

  • @donniceblakely1075
    @donniceblakely1075 Год назад +26

    I didn't realize you could broach key ways with a face milling machine , but you are a talented man. It's good to see people are still honest and human when they make mistakes. As always, Curtis, I really enjoy your videos. I think that my sons and i have watched all of them as a matter of fact!

    • @wijim1948
      @wijim1948 4 дня назад

      LOL. I've broached keyways more than once, myself! (SO much so, that I used to be called Captain Crunch by my "friends" at work!)

  • @allenbrown7820
    @allenbrown7820 2 года назад +353

    That is a cool machine!The look on Kurtis’ face when talking about the handle flying across the shop “Ask me how I know” ! Lol 😆 Have a Good Day and Be Safe!

    • @CuttingEdgeEngineering
      @CuttingEdgeEngineering  2 года назад +169

      It was trying to help find the pieces of the centre finder 🤣

    • @williampankratz600
      @williampankratz600 2 года назад +17

      Don't you mean "DONT ASK ME HOW I KNOW "

    • @henkoosterhof5947
      @henkoosterhof5947 2 года назад +9

      Like the tool that opens/closes the 3/4 jaw clamps on a lathe?

    • @Timbo5553
      @Timbo5553 2 года назад +10

      That handle could of been used for a vice and been hammered on by the looks of it looks very similar to was I use and do but ye same concept as a drill chuck drift been drilled into my head as an apprentice never leave them in there

    • @lopezlopez7132
      @lopezlopez7132 2 года назад +8

      @@Timbo5553 Can you repeat all this in English?

  • @zafaradeel2107
    @zafaradeel2107 2 года назад +17

    Good old machine.heavy-duty and free from cheap plastic parts.God bless you for saving this vintage masterpiece.

  • @charlesdahmital8095
    @charlesdahmital8095 2 года назад +46

    I love how this starts. The last time I had some equipment delivered to my home shop (in a standard neighborhood)
    it arrived at about 2 o'clock in the morning and took an hour to unload with the diesel rig running the whole time.
    Neighbors were thrilled.

    • @CuttingEdgeEngineering
      @CuttingEdgeEngineering  2 года назад +6

      😂😂

    • @BlindBatG34
      @BlindBatG34 2 года назад +33

      Just proves you got the wrong neighbors. I would have looked out the window and exclaimed, ‘looks like Charles is getting a new toy’, thrown on some clothes and ran outside to check it out.

    • @BruceNitroxpro
      @BruceNitroxpro 2 года назад +2

      @@CuttingEdgeEngineering , He he he!

    • @markfryer9880
      @markfryer9880 2 года назад +5

      @@BlindBatG34 You sound like the exception to the rule. A lot of neighbours just don't get along or even know their names.

  • @KPMACHINE1
    @KPMACHINE1 2 дня назад

    Came here for machine work and told my wife I was learning about how to fix the kitchen. I wasn’t lying. I like it!

  • @antbarredo
    @antbarredo 2 года назад +7

    I think all of us would take a class with professor Curtis. Can you imagine this man giving a lecture?

  • @paulstanding7267
    @paulstanding7267 2 года назад +105

    Hi I hope the following information help you with the machine. It was made by A kitchen & D walker ltd of hexagon works peloton lane Halifax Yorkshire. The company was established in 1961 and this is one of the first machines they made year 1961. John brown & co sold the Halifax machine tools business to James.H. Vickery 1980s. It is a fantastic machine. Other information regarding this machine can be found at. Grace,s Guide To British Industrial History there is a file on it. Hope this helps you take care.

    • @CuttingEdgeEngineering
      @CuttingEdgeEngineering  2 года назад +18

      Thanks for sharing 👍

    • @miles2378
      @miles2378 Год назад +1

      ​@@CuttingEdgeEngineering are you a jobshop or are you preserving these machines for museums?

    • @chrispateman2067
      @chrispateman2067 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@CuttingEdgeEngineering I used to own the Halifax Factory that this machine was made in ,we used to do steel fabrications in that factory .Kitchen /walker .Kitchen /Wade was very well known in Halifax

  • @TomokosEnterprize
    @TomokosEnterprize 2 года назад +40

    Hi folks. I ran a machine much like this years ago. It was mostly used to machine the intakes and exhaust of 48 inch, 40 ton natural gas pipe line compressors. I believe the chuck/table was a round 55 inches with the bed in the floor. I don't remember who made it but it was capable of 1/2 thou accuracy. What a beast it was. What a blessing to have the written material along with it. Seeing this first setup I can see why you picked this one up. It is pennies spent compared to a new one. I wonder if they still make a piece like this. The table was fixed and the machine itself ran on rails in the pit below. Much like a vertical mill/drill they had. 50 years ago it was a tape machine that had an one inch perforated paper tape. Led's were in it's infancy. I sure looking forward to seeing it on a production type job. Thanks a bunch Kurtis. Take care eh.

  • @LukeA_55
    @LukeA_55 2 года назад +99

    I love these videos showing older machines and they're history. These machines just give a sense of pride that you don't feel with newer machines. Like the hand drawn schematics and all that
    It'd be cool if they had a little history book with them saying what companies previously owned them and what kind of parts they made
    PS I think you guys are doing awesome things for the machining world by showing all this stuff and in my opinion you have made the best machining channel on RUclips

  • @johnmcclain3887
    @johnmcclain3887 2 года назад +3

    Thirty years ago, I worked around machines of that size I barely knew what they did. Now I know what they do, but I'm retired, dreaming of the old days. You've got some really excellent old machinery that shows its quality by the very fact it's no less productive to day as sixty years ago. I really enjoy seeing the quality of work you regularly do. Thanks!

  • @misiek100020
    @misiek100020 Год назад +2

    what i love about old machines is sheer VOLUME of material used, its build like a tank

  • @DymondzTrucking1962
    @DymondzTrucking1962 2 года назад +8

    Built back when they made stuff the last. That's one of the reasons I like my old machines. Keep up on the maintenance they last forever. Have a good weekend guys see you next time.

    • @totojejedinecnynick
      @totojejedinecnynick 2 года назад +6

      But how can it work without a cloud subscription? And where is the supplier contract for servicing? What about bi-yearly mandatory electrical inspections? Software updates? How could it possibly work!?

    • @rummy98
      @rummy98 6 месяцев назад

      @@totojejedinecnynick Yeah you actually owned stuff you bought back then.

  • @tubefish666
    @tubefish666 2 года назад +6

    What a beautiful machine. Such a solid build quality. This machine will outlive many generations of mechanics.

    • @brucepickess8097
      @brucepickess8097 2 года назад

      Back then in the UK we made things to last, what a beast, however ease of use perhaps not so good.

    • @tubefish666
      @tubefish666 2 года назад +1

      @@brucepickess8097 Think of an artist playing his violine. Ease of use also not so good. Needs practice. But after learning to master his instrument, the artist will deliver the most beautiful works of art. :)

  • @darrellhendrix5502
    @darrellhendrix5502 Месяц назад

    I cannot imagine anyone better suited to appreciate old machines and make them perform above and beyond what they were designed for.

  • @bernieshort6311
    @bernieshort6311 2 года назад

    What a beauty, I operated and set up machines such as yours Horizontal Facing & Boring machines along with universal boring machines during my apprenticeship at HM Dockyard Devonport. I was trained as an Engine Fitter and Turner. They were my favourite machines to operate, and I got as much enjoyment out of them as I did operating centre, capstan and turret lathes. Sheesh your machine takes me back 52 years. Once you have set this machine up and ironed out any issues, I am sure it will serve you well.

  • @janneaalto3956
    @janneaalto3956 2 года назад +8

    The run-out on the faceplate is making my worksafety senses tingle.

  • @douglasboyle6544
    @douglasboyle6544 2 года назад +26

    Absolutely love how you keep bringing these old workhorses in to do the jobs you need. Very much looking forward to the series of transformations you have planned.

    • @BruceNitroxpro
      @BruceNitroxpro 2 года назад +1

      And watch out for the flying handles!

  • @Churchill250267
    @Churchill250267 2 года назад +44

    That is a hefty piece of kit! Congratulations on your new purchase! It reminds me of when we actually manufactured equipment in Britain!

    • @CuttingEdgeEngineering
      @CuttingEdgeEngineering  2 года назад +8

      Thanks mate Yeah some great bits of machinery were built in the UK!

    • @JohnAdams-qc2ju
      @JohnAdams-qc2ju 2 года назад +3

      You want to build stuff then rather buying from China?

    • @garyhost354
      @garyhost354 2 года назад +6

      Yes mate totally agree. Countries gone down the pan since We let all the immigrants in.

    • @hayleyxyz
      @hayleyxyz 2 года назад +29

      @@garyhost354 The problem is deindustrialization under successive conservative/neoliberal governments. Don't be a chump and blame brown people lower on the social ladder than you; that's what they want. You need to be blaming those at the top.

    • @mitfreundlichengrussen1234
      @mitfreundlichengrussen1234 2 года назад

      @@hayleyxyz You a clear on the point, bankers and investment gurus do not care about a country´s wellbeing and don´t know a bit about production or even manufacturing - take a look at the Boeing-Desaster.

  • @peterchambers1868
    @peterchambers1868 2 года назад

    I am a retired guy, who thoroughly enjoys your channel,- the lady you and the dog. If i had opportunity, I would have become a machinist. I have been in newspapers all my life, so I have always been around BIG machines.

  • @crichtonbruce4329
    @crichtonbruce4329 2 года назад +4

    I've been reading some comments on the schematics and manuals Curtis found. Such items are often invaluable treasures for such an old machine, but also fragile! I'd urge you, Curtis and anyone who has such things, to get them professionally scanned and a work copy printed. Put the originals in a safe place! Maybe send a copy of the scan to Keith Rucker at Vintage Machinery too.

  • @kenthesparky178
    @kenthesparky178 2 года назад +36

    Forgot to mention in my earlier comment.When doing the mods to the machine ,you may want to think about installing a dc injection braking unit to the spindle,it seemed on the video to continue to turn after hitting the stop button,just a thought.👍

    • @brucepickess8097
      @brucepickess8097 2 года назад

      Good idea, I thought it was strange that it didn't have a brake mechanism to stop the rotation quickly.

    • @tombeauchamp806
      @tombeauchamp806 2 года назад +2

      @@brucepickess8097 you'd be surprised how many modern CNCs and stuff don't have a spindle brake after an estop..most of the ones I've run use a controlled short to the motor to stop it, once you e-stop the electric is cut and it drifts to a stop instead of actually stopping.

    • @richmorin424
      @richmorin424 Год назад

      I considered adding a braking mechanism to my SawStop table saw, but abandoned the idea when I realized that it might cause the blade's fastening nut to unscrew itself (with unpredictable but certainly bad results :-). So, be sure that any braking can't cause a similar problem for this machine.

  • @jimmyb1451
    @jimmyb1451 2 года назад +50

    That's fancy looking old machine. Gonna be interesting to watch the modification process.
    Have you ever considered playing around with Arduino's? (Lego for micro controllers)
    Potentially, and without too much effort, you could use one to drive feed servos you're going to install which would mean you could automate some of the processes. It would only have to stop at the end of some operations to manually change out tooling, but for things like boring, where multiple passes are needed, potentially you could make it "set and forget". Locking off the axes though, might be a bit of a trick. (maybe small servo driven locks?)
    Automating single processes wouldn't be much of a time saver, but if there are common dimensions, you could save profiles. Perhaps with some input menu to set zero offsets.
    On a side note, it's very refreshing to hear someone say "I smashed a tool bit" or "I sent it the wrong way" followed by "I drove the tool...", rather than things like "It broke the tool", "It drove itself into the job", "It went the wrong way". People will argue that "It's just a turn of phrase" and that there's no difference. There is a difference, and it speaks volumes to the character of the person saying it.

    • @bschwand
      @bschwand 2 года назад

      or do a real CNC build using linuxCNC

    • @jimmyb1451
      @jimmyb1451 2 года назад +1

      @@bschwand Yeah, or that.

    • @alfadoofus
      @alfadoofus 2 года назад +6

      I agree on that last bit, Kurt looks like a real stand up guy.

    • @highpointsights
      @highpointsights 2 года назад +2

      @@jimmyb1451 linux lovers all over the planet!!

    • @deconteesawyer5758
      @deconteesawyer5758 2 года назад

      Yes, he can do all that in his spare time at work :)

  • @mdouglaswray
    @mdouglaswray 2 года назад +12

    Kurtis, you must have balls of steel and nerves of ice to move such huge machines so well. I've done this work and am always impressed at how smooth and simple you make it look. Excellent rigging every time.

  • @lopezlopez7132
    @lopezlopez7132 2 года назад

    So, it's a video about some old machine and 98% of the people watching it will never be even close to a machine like that, BUT it's very interesting to watch and the explanation how the thing works is clear and to the point. So, great video! Thanks!

  • @Peter-or8oc
    @Peter-or8oc 8 месяцев назад +1

    It shows the workmanship of those machine makers from the 50's and early 60's they made them to last they're 60+ years old and with proper maintenance will be here in another 60+ years amazing machines

  • @almac2598
    @almac2598 2 года назад +24

    Metric v imperial. Whilst serving in the RN, the two most popular measurement systems were the Firkin and the BSH, both had 2 units, ie, the Firkin came as Too Firkin big or too Firkin small. The BSH translates as British Standard Handful which came as a Slack BSH or a Tight BSH. Both applied to anything.

    • @paulg3336
      @paulg3336 2 года назад +1

      Sub units of the Firkin were the Nadger (Gnat's Tadger)

    • @CuttingEdgeEngineering
      @CuttingEdgeEngineering  2 года назад +6

      I reckon I could be proficient in the Firkin measurement system pretty quickly 😂👍

    • @lwilton
      @lwilton 2 года назад +1

      Useless trivia: there really is a Firkin:
      a unit of liquid volume equal to half a kilderkin (about 11 gallons or 41 liters)

    • @davidandrew1078
      @davidandrew1078 2 года назад

      How does that relate to, "Bee's Dicks"?

    • @manxman8008
      @manxman8008 2 года назад

      And a gnats bollock for precision work.

  • @Holli622
    @Holli622 2 года назад +69

    I love the machinery and equipment videos. Especially the older styles of machines. Take care and have a nice weekend! 👍

    • @CuttingEdgeEngineering
      @CuttingEdgeEngineering  2 года назад +28

      We've got a soft spot for these older machines, they just don't make them like this anymore! Glad you enjoy the vids you have a good one mate

  • @Nocturnal2010
    @Nocturnal2010 2 года назад +73

    It's cool watching you guys expand over the last year when I first discovered your channel. I'm not a machinist but I've always been fascinated with all types machines, the skilled tradesmen that master them, and guys that keep them running like myself.

    • @joakimportnoff1093
      @joakimportnoff1093 Год назад

      try it out it's awesome to create in metals or like any materials.. only females know what true creation means, bringing forth an new human being.

  • @stevecallaghan3245
    @stevecallaghan3245 2 года назад

    Hello from Anstead, Brisbane Curtis. Glad to see old machines being appreciated, used and admired by all. I have a 1963 Colchester 3 phase lathe with all of the attachments. Everything in perfect working order. I like my machine very very much.

  • @donmathias1705
    @donmathias1705 Год назад +1

    Ran three horizontal borers for a company making cat loaders and graders. Very versatile. The Kearns had 14 ft left to right travel, about 6 ft vertices and about 5 ft in and out. It had a 5" quill that went out for ever. It had an early dro fitted on the three axis. Totally manual measuring on the quill. One job was cat 950 bits. front and rear frames and lift arms. We made a massive "fly cutter". Actually a 30" disc about 30mm thick with insert holders bolted into a pocket. Great for facing down between brackets like steering ram faces and loader arm bosses to width. Could cut on either side and down about 12" behind a member. Like scratching your back, hard to reach spots! Good luck.

  • @jonathangriffin1120
    @jonathangriffin1120 2 года назад +24

    I started my apprenticeship in '65 and I'm still learning about British machine tool manufacturers, Kitchen and Walker is a new'un on me although I have heard of Kitchen and Wade. A few years ago I was up at the Middleton Railway in Leeds and saw a Swift lathe {Halifax) also a lathe made by Sentinel (Shrewsbury) who are best known for steam waggons and railway locomotives. Got to respect a bloke with the bottle to admit to dropping a bollock on the internet. All The Best from Somerset, England.

    • @CuttingEdgeEngineering
      @CuttingEdgeEngineering  2 года назад +9

      hey mate, have seen a few comments about Kitchen & Wade so I wonder if the company changed names at one point. Cheers

    • @mickwalker8813
      @mickwalker8813 2 года назад +2

      Sounds like it, we had a Kitchen & Wade radial arm drill at our foundry in Lancashire, England back in the 80's

  • @chrishartley1210
    @chrishartley1210 2 года назад +72

    My home town has produced many killing machines (aka lathes, borers etc) over the years but with its spinning and flying handles this appears to be one of the finer examples.

    • @tellyfaulkner3466
      @tellyfaulkner3466 2 года назад +2

      🤣 Classic! And, what home town is that Chris?

    • @Sparkey
      @Sparkey 2 года назад +5

      @@tellyfaulkner3466 Halifax

    • @chrishartley1210
      @chrishartley1210 2 года назад +2

      @@Sparkey Thanks, saved me the trouble 😅

    • @davidkillens8143
      @davidkillens8143 2 года назад +6

      As I watched the description of this machine, it became obvious that it has the potential to kill or cause serious damage if you make a tiny mistake. This machine could never pass any safety standards review under current safety regulations. But she is a beast.

    • @BruceNitroxpro
      @BruceNitroxpro 2 года назад +1

      @@davidkillens8143 , Never thought of that, but undoubtedly true!

  • @stuartbagedonow9770
    @stuartbagedonow9770 2 года назад +1

    It’s pretty cool that a machine that old is still viable, One thing I’d like to comment on, here in the states we use thousands of an inch not girly man millimeters. Thanks Stu

    • @gerardocabrera3787
      @gerardocabrera3787 Год назад

      There no doubt, you will enjoy putting this big bad boy to work and for our viewing pleasure. (Hey there's a name for it,Triple B
      Big Bad Boy.
      ⭐⚡🚀Triple B🚀⚡⭐

  • @rnk482
    @rnk482 Год назад +30

    LOL I'm only 20 seconds in, from the US, and my first thought was why is he going to talk to the passenger. It hit me right away. Bloody Ausi's drivin on the wrong side of the road.😅 I'm a welder/ fabricator and this channel gets more of my time than my girlfriend does. Love what you do here. You really know your shit.

  • @RubenKelevra
    @RubenKelevra 2 года назад +95

    13:52 easy fix for this: Add a spring which pushes the handle off the head if you don't press it down. This way you will never leave it there, as it will just fall down :)

    • @stephensingletary8374
      @stephensingletary8374 Год назад +3

      Cracking idea this, and maybe weld a chain onto the handle and machine to keep it where it needs to be.

    • @69Misterpickles
      @69Misterpickles 7 месяцев назад

      @@stephensingletary8374 paint it bright pink as well.

  • @sidneybowerman558
    @sidneybowerman558 2 года назад +9

    I enjoyed this video immensely. Your presentation skills are first class. The lady doing the recording and editing deserves a medal. Well done to both of you.

  • @jrwhite7916
    @jrwhite7916 2 года назад +30

    You find some of the coolest toys. I see them and I'm like "I want 1!".. just 1 problem. I'm not a machinist. Never done anything like that and wouldn't know what to do with it, but I still want one. Don't think it would fit in my 216 square foot little tiny workshop though.

    • @CuttingEdgeEngineering
      @CuttingEdgeEngineering  2 года назад +19

      you need a bigger workshop! 😂

    • @Agnemons
      @Agnemons Год назад

      @@CuttingEdgeEngineering You ALWAYS need a bigger workshop!

    • @ronwilken5219
      @ronwilken5219 Год назад +1

      ​@@Agnemonsjust like you always need more tools.

  • @DoNE021
    @DoNE021 2 года назад

    Everything was built with quality back in the days, Built to last meny meny decades.
    This old machines are gold to find.

  • @lawrencewillard6370
    @lawrencewillard6370 2 года назад

    Just made a tailstock chuck 'like yours', and a lathe mill set-up, BUT making NOTHING like one of them. You have a wonderful following here, laugh with them on their input. A joy.

  • @chrisharris8727
    @chrisharris8727 2 года назад +5

    Great content again guys and what a fantastic old machine and in perfect condition. Being from the UK it gives me a sense of pride that a lot of engineering machinery was manufactured here back in the day and is still going strong nowadays. It’s such a shame that we virtually have no manufacturing industry left in the UK but at least the stuff that is out there is still going strong. My Grandad worked in Coventry at a firm called Alfred Herbert’s making lathes and milling machines in the 1950s until the late 70s. As a youngster when I stayed over with him and Grandma he would get a massive world Atlas out and show me where some of the machines he built were sent to. I was absolutely amazed and couldn’t believe a machine that big that Grandad had help make was going all those miles away - happy memories. Keep up the great work and videos Kurtis, Karen and of course Homeless you are my Friday morning fix here in the UK along with a cup of coffee before work 😀👍🏻

    • @bertplank8011
      @bertplank8011 2 года назад +1

      You might want to ponder WHY British industry has been decimated and perhaps do something about it.....it would require a radical overhaul of the country and the first positive step would be to get rid of the Windsors who have reached their sell by date.The newspapers are FULL of crap about these idiots.....they contribute nothing and simply leech off the economy.

  • @daviddundas4140
    @daviddundas4140 2 года назад +4

    Love how Curtis is so passionate about these machines, if it could talk, what stories it could tell.

  • @Bill_N_ATX
    @Bill_N_ATX 2 года назад +85

    Reminds me of the great machines we built here in the US to build the many, many parts that won WW2. Some of them are still running today and are prized for the jobs they do. They aren’t computer controlled but in the hands of a skilled machinist, they can make just about anything. Sadly, we don’t make anything like them anymore.

    • @bushratbeachbum
      @bushratbeachbum 2 года назад +12

      If you go to a workshop in the uk where there's heavy machines and blokes in brown cotton smocks with a selection of well sharpened pencils, a good quality Parker pen and a 6 inch rule in the breast pocket, you can guarantee they're doing good work, almost certainly work very few people can do.
      Still plenty of places like that, though they are becoming less common, sadly.
      Even before the war these guys were producing excellent products on machines most of us would struggle to name, let alone run.
      The industrial revolution is fascinating and something worth every moment learning about i reckon.
      I easily get lost for hours learning about the history of machining and industry in general

    • @izalman
      @izalman 2 года назад +3

      Recall seeing a massive Farrel machine (told it was made in the US) hobbing a crankshaft out of the biggest block of steel you could imagine. Block of steel was fixed, tooling rotated around the workpiece, so much swarf they used a garden rake to pull it away. Once all the throws were cut on the flat, they clamped the block, heated the main bearing areas and rotated the big end to form the correct angle for the crank.

    • @liamfisher917
      @liamfisher917 2 года назад +2

      The US still makes lots of machining gear and also heavy equipment.

    • @flatmoon6359
      @flatmoon6359 2 года назад +6

      Long time ago produced parts for ROLLS ROYCE diesels,worked on parts with 5 thou tolerance on parts 36" diameter,no optics,no digital readout.I thought this was history,till working in an different engineering industry, service call on hydraulics, there were 10 of them in a line.Manager "what's up " looking at machine at one machine.I used to work in that.That was 40 year's ago.One of the tool slots still had a" indentation" I caused.Still working to same tolerance.Time to retire.

    • @fordmud
      @fordmud 2 года назад +2

      I think you'd be surprised how many of those old machines are actually still working. Probably closer to 80%.
      I have 4 of them in my shop all from the late 30s through the 50s. The two lathes I have can out do most of the machine shops in my area with newer equipment when it comes to machining long lengths without cutting a taper.
      South Bend lathe
      Axleson lathe
      Carlton drill press
      Bridgeport knee mill

  • @mapo5976
    @mapo5976 2 года назад

    Intriguing.
    You put a lot of time and effort in getting this lost info back into today's time.
    Making old relevant again .

  • @chrisretired5379
    @chrisretired5379 2 года назад +1

    The absolute best in videos for us, thank you ! The historical significance of the machinery, snack time love for the pet, the sincere laughter of the loving companion 💝💝💝💝

  • @BrucePierson
    @BrucePierson 2 года назад +25

    That machine was really well made. The fact that it's still working is evidence of that. They made things to last back then, not like now that things need replacing at short intervals. It will be interesting seeing the modifications you make to the machine to suit your requirements.

  • @thesloppyapprentice2528
    @thesloppyapprentice2528 2 года назад +15

    We are using those machines still in reduction gear housing production.
    For parallel axis reduction gear almost all machining is done on one of these machines, including bearing positions, grooves, facing and fastener holes, usually without even repositioning the part.

  • @nauroticdax
    @nauroticdax 2 года назад +17

    I love how the channel is called "cutting edge" and you're talking about a machine from the 60's, Don't get me wrong it just goes to show that back then they had the right idea and aside from comfort features (DRO's, better oiling systems, mostly better electronics) not much has changed in the machines themselves...so much that even 80 years later it's still going

    • @donblevins1181
      @donblevins1181 2 года назад +2

      60s were only 60 years ago check your math

    • @kellyblack4897
      @kellyblack4897 2 года назад +1

      Most machine shops still use equipment from this era because it’s all analog and can be repaired. The brown and sharpe screw machines we used at centerline were manufactured in 1907. Physics doesn’t change. The Hardinge knee mill we have at the shop is the main money maker and it was manufactured in the early 50’s

    • @taxicamel
      @taxicamel 2 года назад +4

      A LOT has changed in the machines of today. Apart from the fact that most new machines are now CNC, which means all the electrics are completely different ....the machines these days do NOT have the rigidity of the old machines. This is a fundamental requirement to machining. Manufacturers have applied LM guides whenever they can ...claiming higher accuracies, higher machining capabilities, etc., ......but the fundamentals of solid, strong, heavy machines, is very rare in today's machines. Heavy-walled meehanite castings requires a lot of knowledge. The old boys who figured out what the requirements were are gone ....replaced by people who do not care as much.
      .

    • @nauroticdax
      @nauroticdax 2 года назад +1

      @@donblevins1181 you are right my bad, however that doesn't necessarily make what I said wrong there are plenty of machines from the 40's and further still kicking around

    • @nauroticdax
      @nauroticdax 2 года назад

      @@taxicamel yes they have changed for the worse I was more pointing at changes for the better but you are right

  • @papalilburn
    @papalilburn 2 года назад

    You obviously found a fantastic machine for the money! My old machine shop teacher told us many times, "fellows, its all about speeds and feeds in this business!" He was right!

  • @DanielKatundu-y8t
    @DanielKatundu-y8t 2 года назад +2

    Mr. and Mrs. Curtis, you satisfy our desires each time by performing and then outperforming yourself in these videos. Machines, just like a child's toy, ought to be played with. Thank you for the great job.

  • @jamesferguson1054
    @jamesferguson1054 2 года назад +4

    That is very nice machine,
    I can tell it has been taken well care of, looks like a 1960’s era, that’s when machines were built tuff and heavy, started my shop in 1968.

  • @CowboysFan777
    @CowboysFan777 2 года назад +3

    I will play all your videos when my grandbabies come to my house! My grandson loves big machines! Its better than cartoons :D

  • @dcrahn
    @dcrahn 2 года назад +5

    That is a fine and cool old machine. I look forward to see the tooling and modifications you make. Also I look forward to a good laugh of Friday's, you never let me down and make my day.👍

  • @uszy1987
    @uszy1987 7 месяцев назад +2

    I've never welded, and I don't know much about lathes either... but I like watching these videos

  • @bijiont942
    @bijiont942 2 года назад +12

    I work nights and seeing you get a night delivery was just on point for me. Happy CEE Friday everyone. Thank you for the content.

    • @CuttingEdgeEngineering
      @CuttingEdgeEngineering  2 года назад +1

      Brilliant, thanks for watching!

    • @jonathangriffin1120
      @jonathangriffin1120 2 года назад +1

      Bear in mind Kurtis is in the Southern Hemisphere so they're having their winter down there so it could be just early in the morning.

  • @gwpsr58
    @gwpsr58 2 года назад +19

    When Kurtis is rattling off stats on a machine or part, I'm always in awe. Then the outtakes come and I find out it's all editing :)

    • @mikeweagle5523
      @mikeweagle5523 2 года назад +5

      Kudos yet again for Karin. She works miracles

    • @donraptor6156
      @donraptor6156 2 года назад

      He is reading it off cue cards! Get Real!

  • @ammeydan
    @ammeydan Год назад +7

    Love your videos, and the bloopers obviously. A quick safety add-on for the feed and traverse issue. You can add 2 microswitches to the feed lever and 2 led rows on the in and out lines under the buttons. This way, the right row illuminates according to the lever's position. Thus, putting an end to the inserts chips flying around the shop.

  • @simshogun2240
    @simshogun2240 2 года назад +1

    Kitchen Walker originally did their own castings in the UK and they were better known for their pillar drills which were bulletproof but they made many engineering machines and your machined end is so you can add sections to make it as long as you require, latterly they did their castings in India and rough machined them before shipping to the UK for final machining. They purpose built machines to special order for specific industries and they built some to face pipe flanges for 4' diameter pipe when the flanges had been welded on and the rotary head could be ordered with specific degrees of rotation for repetitive work or small batch work and you can machine slots in your bed if required. If this machine is maintained it will outlast you and your children and will easily see 100 years old. Kitchen Walker are still in business. One suggestion I would make is to use a lubricant/coolant for rough or heavy cuts and lose the coolant for a final or thin cut.

  • @vulgivagu
    @vulgivagu 2 года назад

    Hi from Uk. I know the company is still in business , just give them an email and they will be sure to help you. So many of these wonderful British companies went to the wall but this one survived. Every time I look at you working I wish I was back in the workshop again ! You are first class, best of luck with the new machine.

  • @cyberherbalist
    @cyberherbalist 2 года назад +10

    Nice little item! I look forward to seeing it in action. My grandfather was a machinist, as was my late wife's father, and I can imagine them working with machines like this! Amazing what one can find for sale out there in the world!

  • @gwharton68
    @gwharton68 2 года назад +8

    You always bring something new to the table and that machine is at the top of the list. That boring bar that you made is scary as hell. Can't wait to see the additions and mods that you intend to make.

  • @bertayoing
    @bertayoing 2 года назад +15

    great machine.something rare these days ,you dont see "made in england" much anymore.built to last a lifetime this one.great chomping sound from homey getting his treat.haha.all the best.

    • @CuttingEdgeEngineering
      @CuttingEdgeEngineering  2 года назад +9

      Yeah there were some really nice machines that came out of England back then! We've got a UK built Delapena honing machine that's also very cool

    • @jackrichards1863
      @jackrichards1863 2 года назад +3

      @@CuttingEdgeEngineering Sounds like a French or Spanish machine with a de la Anything in the name!

    • @bertayoing
      @bertayoing 2 года назад

      @@jackrichards1863 made in uk my friend.cheltenam to be exact.

    • @jackrichards1863
      @jackrichards1863 2 года назад +1

      @@bertayoing Yea realised that but anyway, just saying. 👍

  • @richardtutor8331
    @richardtutor8331 Год назад +1

    I love old stuff like this. Good up keep and they hardly ever wear out .last for a very long time.

  • @rickyr9720
    @rickyr9720 3 месяца назад

    Have worked on a identical machine for about five years when employed in an engineering workshop. Behind that tool mount on the face plate there is a quill with morse taper up to 5 morse with a power feed on it used for boring smaller diameters.

  • @kenthesparky178
    @kenthesparky178 2 года назад +5

    As a 70 year old retired electrician having used schematic electrical drawings many times I suggest you fasten that drawing to a new sheet of backing paper .Those folds will turn to tears in no time.I can't tell you how many times I come across this situation. Pieces go missing or the vital bit of information is on that joint and is no longer readable or you have to do a jigsaw before starting the repair,all very annoying when the machine breaks down and time is urgent.Great machine ,as I have commented before you bring back so many memories ( good and bad)👍❤️

    • @CuttingEdgeEngineering
      @CuttingEdgeEngineering  2 года назад +2

      Thanks for the great tip mate!

    • @trevorkrause7220
      @trevorkrause7220 2 года назад +2

      Get that paper drawing digitally scanned professionally. The digital copy can then be cleaned up to increase the line and text definition. Probably then can be converted to a proper CAD drawing with little effort so that any future additions or alterations to the electrics can be easily and permanently added for easy reference.

    • @billdoodson4232
      @billdoodson4232 2 года назад +1

      Yea got to back up what Trevor has said. One of the real benefits of modern tech is the ability to have these sorts of drawings scanned in and cleaned up and then be saved in say dxf file formats.

  • @simsapot
    @simsapot 2 года назад +23

    While I laugh at the out-takes, I am in awe of your skills, expertise and professionalism! Hey Karen thanks for capturing all these great videos! Looking forward to more and more…..Regards from Banana-Land….

  • @markmunro8753
    @markmunro8753 Год назад +3

    Homeless loves his new machine😂😂😂. Thank you team.😊😊

  • @markroberts1858
    @markroberts1858 Год назад

    Wow. The ingenuity of the engineers who who designed this all those years ago is mind blowing. No computers all written and designed by hand.

  • @MrPancake0825
    @MrPancake0825 2 года назад

    Kurtis, I really enjoy your work. Your lovely wife does a great job putting your work together. I have never touched one of those machines but you have a real talent and make it look easier than it is.
    I'm sure you know this, your bride, she giggles because she is cra cra about her life with you. You guys rock I pray you are blessed forever!

  • @MattysWorkshop
    @MattysWorkshop 2 года назад +24

    Gday, what an absolute bargain, definitely a big asset and the results from the test cuts are very promising, I’m keen to see the modifications, awesome video as always mate, have a great weekend, cheers

    • @CuttingEdgeEngineering
      @CuttingEdgeEngineering  2 года назад +2

      Hey mate we are happy to get our hands on this old girl, can't wait to put it to work. Karen also says great work on the editing in your new videos! 😎👍 Chat soon mate

  • @Grahamus.Von.Skinnnyus
    @Grahamus.Von.Skinnnyus 2 года назад +10

    Can't wait to watch the modification process. Not an engineer myself but it runs through the fami!y veins. Keep up the great work.

    • @Grahamus.Von.Skinnnyus
      @Grahamus.Von.Skinnnyus 2 года назад +1

      Worked in a cable making factory for 18 years. The place opened in 1950 and the machines they used were second hand back then. They were still using them til the factory closed in 2016. Bloody good quality workmanship from the get go. Love the videos and the way you "say,show,do" is really informative for the likes of myself who has no experience of your industry. Good luck guys. Keep them vids coming 👍

  • @TheWidgetWorks
    @TheWidgetWorks 2 года назад +6

    Nice, love the old timey control style with feed and rapid on the same buttons but backwards, makes it way easier to create a good machine crash video. One thing that I've seen done is to put flip up safety covers on the buttons, that way you can just have one button uncovered and it would be the right button for both infeed and rapid out.

  • @zaineridling
    @zaineridling Год назад +1

    That machine wants to be fed! Another interesting video. Really appreciate you reminding us in the United States that Metric really is simpler, more precise, and easier at EVERY point in the shop, on the machine, and under the bonnet!

  • @grahamwalker2312
    @grahamwalker2312 2 года назад

    A wonderful story about this machine. Kitchen & Walker was a company in Halifax, West Yorkshire specialising in precision engineering machines. I grew up no more than 150m from the site of the original works and still live in the area. Members of the my family worked there in past years including my wife and mother.

  • @larry_g9262
    @larry_g9262 2 года назад +15

    A thought to keep in mind is that you could add a VFD to the table drive motor to gain some flexibility in the speeds instead of just 3 fixed speeds.

    • @ronblack7870
      @ronblack7870 2 года назад +6

      yes i said the same. but may need to change feed motor to one designed to use a freq drive.need class F or H insulation . the current motor will work but if you go low freq it may burn up.

  • @ypaulbrown
    @ypaulbrown 2 года назад +5

    holy smokes, watcha bought now.....have a great weekend every one, Paul from the other Sunshine State.......across the Pacific

  • @jwdickinson643
    @jwdickinson643 2 года назад +6

    Hearty Congratulations on the acquisition, Mate! Love to see owners investing in their business to augment and expand their capabilities and services! Cheers from Up Over!

  • @patrickspringer6534
    @patrickspringer6534 2 года назад +2

    I really like that cabover Kenworth. The wheelbase looks like a dream to reverse in the tight spots.

  • @markl1604
    @markl1604 2 года назад

    Interesting borer. Had friend who was scapled by 1. Lots of respect and no rush with this machine. There were more than 8 borers in machine shop. Never operated 1 but liked the table borers best.

  • @gabrielecossettini2923
    @gabrielecossettini2923 2 года назад +5

    Hi Kurtis! I suggest you another mod to this machine.
    Changing the electric motor who feeds the "spindle" with one with brakes when you press the stop button. The fact that is continuing to turn when you stop it is giving me anxiety 😃

  • @kempy666999
    @kempy666999 2 года назад +10

    Really enjoyed the vid - thanks.
    $4000 AUD is fantastic value in so many ways:
    * New (British 😎) machine for the workshop.
    * Vids of the various modifications.
    * Vid of the Hydroptic jig borer in action. The anticipation for this vid is immense 🤤
    All the best,
    Paul

    • @CuttingEdgeEngineering
      @CuttingEdgeEngineering  2 года назад +2

      Hey Paul cheers mate glad we can bring some video enjoyment while we enjoy the new toy *ahem* tool for the workshop 😂👍

  • @brendanrobertson5966
    @brendanrobertson5966 2 года назад +24

    For the confusing button issue, make a two sided plastic instructor to between the two buttons (due to the emergency stops, probably 1/2 circle cutouts on each side of a strip). One side in big letters says FEED and the other EXTRACT with big red and green circles. Flip as required for each operation while learning.

    • @luisbarradas9093
      @luisbarradas9093 2 года назад +1

      Good idea mate

    • @Th4thWiseman
      @Th4thWiseman 2 года назад +24

      Or better still just simply disconnect the rapid function from the buttons when machine in feed mode and rewire the circuit to 2 new buttons seperate from the originals to stop alot of grief.

  • @busman2000
    @busman2000 Год назад

    Having watched this vidoe for the second time, it was like watching a giant horizontal fly cutter. Similar to the adjustable one you use on your mill that had a lot of noise from it's gears. I know you did a brilliant job of attempting to rectify that, and to some degree you did. That is quietend it a little. I love how you are utilising machines of a by gone era and letting them breath again.

  • @bigboymarket
    @bigboymarket 2 года назад

    This man is very well know of what he does......Well Said,, Well Explain....Well Done

  • @northernmetalworker
    @northernmetalworker 2 года назад +5

    We've got an old kitchen and walker radial arm drill at my work shop, it's a very nice machine to work with.

  • @pirreli5
    @pirreli5 2 года назад +11

    great tool, u never know when u will need it, must say the filming and editing is a very high standard, well done and good luck with the beast!!

  • @nrml76
    @nrml76 2 года назад +6

    Cool addition to your workshop. That switch panel looks like it could do with some mods when you are rebuilding. It's probably worth adding in a couple of cutoff switches to prevent power feeds from turning on while the handles are engaged. I've seen it on some machines and always wondered why something so simple and easy to do isn't done by all manufacturers.

  • @phillipzx3754
    @phillipzx3754 2 года назад

    I love this channel. He's doing in real life what my knowledge and finances can't support.

  • @usedcarsokinawa
    @usedcarsokinawa 2 года назад

    When I joined the USMC I was told I’d be a machinist and I was pumped! Sadly, that means jet mechanic in military speak. I do wood working as a hobby but I’m impressed with machinists. Very cool!

  • @DerekTinney
    @DerekTinney 2 года назад +3

    I've always loved the line borer segments but am so looking forward to seeing this unit doing similar work. Really engaging installment, congrats and good luck with it! Excellent call to not make the table feed reversal fail an outtake - testing is all part of the process and you'll not make that mistake again.

  • @alangraham4526
    @alangraham4526 2 года назад +8

    Love your vids mate and pragmatic approach. There's a lot of old pommie machinists going around minus "bits and pieces" that used this old stuff and invariably you had one guy that ran the same machine for years as there was a "learning curve". I would say a small PLC and sensors could and would prevent "righting off" anymore inserts etc. Directional interlocks etc would be simple to program in to avoid "operator error"! Failing that be just like "old Harry" served his time and retired on the same machine. :-) Missus does a great job too and only laughs in the edited bits!

  • @trucks_channel_razborgruz
    @trucks_channel_razborgruz 2 года назад +3

    *wonderful job. very nice and professional people. Good luck everyone. and all health.* 🔥🔥🔥

  • @stevejones9529
    @stevejones9529 2 года назад

    Very handy machine. I used one for machining castings/fabrications.
    Boring, line boring and turning short shafts on the castings.
    The table is great for jacking and setting up so you an clean up all faces.

  • @honeycuttracing
    @honeycuttracing 2 года назад

    Older the machine the better that it was built in our minds!

  • @seansysig
    @seansysig 2 года назад +8

    Kurtis this new series sounds very interesting. Great content. The design, fabrication, and modifications of an old machine to perform new operations is very interesting. I always cringed when you use the line borer on big pieces. The extra time and wear and tear on the power driver must be hard on the bearings. The blooper out takes are the best!

  • @Jammer.1
    @Jammer.1 2 года назад +4

    If my grandma was still alive she could tell you so much about them as she ran them in the 60's making parts for Studebaker & Oliver plow works !