I love how friendly KB comes off. It’s not like I had any doubt, but he spends so much of his videos talking about dark topics and getting rightfully angry that it’s fun to see him chill out. I appreciate all his work and that of Mr. Beat.
My two favourite educational RUclipsrs united in the quest to satisfy our thirst for knowledge in a humourous yet serious manner. You both have done tremendous over the years, and I know that you can produce the same high-quality content in the future. Keep up the great work!
I read "Lies My Teacher Told Me" by James Loewen about 25 years ago, and it changed my view of American history forever. I was stunned with how much I didn't know. I am old enough to be Mr Beat's and KB's father, but in my perfect time warp world, you guys would be my high school US History teachers.
Honestly, I just want to thank knowing better for sharing his experiences with addiction, the military, an empathy. Being open about these things is such a good thing for people to hear and especially in this long form conversational context.
Its sad hearing that he teaches children given how deeply misinformed he is about so many issues. He has a surface level understanding of many things yet acts like he is an expert. Like about CRT or the SAT.
Hey! if you mentioned bernadette banner, ill say a lot of the female "history" youtubers do seem to cover material history, especially fashion history a lot. Abby Cox was a reenactor, also does fashion history videos. SnappyDragon covers jewish fashion history. NotYourMommasHistory posted black reenactor videos (sadly hasn't posted in a year). But yes, there is a big focus on material history (dress, hairstyles, food) probably because women's history hasn't been as recorded except via material history. Thank you so much for this -- i think a lot of your political trajectory has taken a similar bent than mine and seeing you guys grow as i have has been very encouraging. Still very sad the left is so bad at communication or coalescing to compromise (the right has lots of kooks and they don't let that embarrass them or dilute them!), but we'll see. I feel as a country we have made huge strides in some aspects in my 20 years being politically involved. The near-total acceptance on marijuana and gay marriage is something I thought unimaginable as a young antiwar libertarian (now more left-lib/soc-dem/anarchist bend) in 2002. Even though there is a lot to be cynical in the lack of progress and reactionary forces I think there is a lot to be hopeful about, too. Things will probably get worse, but they will also get better, I think. Just on different axes.
I'm a big fan of Not Your Momma's History, but like you said she hasn't posted in so long. It's funny, one of my most popular videos is about the history of high heels. :) And yeah it does sound we've evolved similarly politically!
@@iammrbeat It blows my mind that between the two of you, neither of you came up with the name Kathy Joseph. She is the TOP history RUclipsr in my book. At least for the niche that she covers. And because the best of RUclips is better than anything else out there, this means that Kathy Joseph is the BEST HISTORIAN in the world. To me. For her stuff. And neither of you know about her?! Very strange.
@@iammrbeat The strange has gotten even stranger. I have done a thorough search for such a video, where you appear on Kathy's channel. I cannot find it. I've searched her channel. I have searched all of RUclips. I have searched the entire internet... Nothing. Now it is possible that the video was made and posted, and then taken down. But I cannot think of a reason why such a video would be switched to private. If I were to take a guess as to what has happened here, I would see it to be possible that you are thinking of some other RUclipsr. Not Kathy Joseph. Because if you DID talk to her, then she would have made the same kind of strong impression on you that she has on me, and many thousands of others. As I have indicated, she is AMAZING. Not a person to be easily forgotten. And if anyone asked me to name a history RUclipsr who is female, she would be THE FIRST person I would shout out. You _and_ KB failing to come up with her name, and pointing other lost souls over to her channel is a major opportunity lost. For anyone who does know of the existence of a Kathy Joseph Meets Mr Beat video, I would be very grateful for a link, or to be pointed in a warmer direction.
It was nice seeing two of my friends talk. Great questions! Would have been better if I could have been there though. Haven't seen either of you in forever.
Very enjoyable conversation. He seems like a nice fellow. I wasn't familiar with him until now, but I will certainly check him out. Plus I like long form history videos and podcasts. I wish Dan Carlin's were longer! Haha
I know it’s not y’all’s subject, but I would love to hear an open forum with y’all and a bunch of other EduTubers on the homelessness situation in America. This personally affected me because about 7 years ago I was homeless hitchhiking around the Midwest and eventually making my way to PA. I eventually had to join the army to escape my situation after a year of homelessness, but the struggle is real for millions of people like myself. I think if you were to pull some larger RUclipsrs into a discussion on that, perhaps a serious impact could be made. Just a thought. Also, love the video so far. I’m a huge fan. I love hearing both of y’all mention RUclips channels that I also watch. NotJustBikes is also one of my favorites. Just goes to show the power of the algorithm to bring people together
So I had to stop mid playthrough to address these 2 points that I feel pretty strongly about. Knowing Better makes the comment about how surprising it is that many history channels are right leaning (possibly far right even). This also shocked me when I discovered this because I was under the impression that someone with an understanding of the past and history should also see how destructive the aristocracy, patricians, the wealthy noble elites could be to societies that rise and fall through time. In my mind, the past is romanticized to a few great men who did great things, and anyone who daydreams about past civilizations does so with the notion that they'd be more than a simple plebian, and completely unaware of how poor living conditions could actually be. My limited armchair historian knowledge seems to show many examples of conservatism leading to the fall of empires. My next thought was when Mr. Beat brought up the topic of populists. I had been binge watching an awesome Roman republic series (Historia Civilis is great!) On loop awhile back and was intrigued by how similar our legal and political systems have been influenced by the western Roman empire. Political donations are considered "free speech rights," that's called a bribe (sorry my brain devolved into less coherent thoughts I didn't have time to organize better.)
With regards to women entering the space (5th/6th question), an example of KB's idea of being harassed by male fans was the whole "female chest armour" debate between Shadiversity fans and some female creators, notable Jill Bearup. There was a lot of just blatant dismissal of Jill and other female creators' opinions, even though they are just as knowledgeable. Especially on topics that are discussed in which a male perspective has been the pervasive perspective for a long time (most topics), a lot of people are still very... unwilling to accept an opinion, even one with more historical basis, when it's coming from a woman, which I'm sure would put a lot of women off creating content and I think, in a broader sense, has prevented women from entering the space in schools and academia more broadly too.
I've had to watch this video in stages because of the length, but I was so excited when I saw both of you were talking together!! Speaking of Handmaid's Tale, I think it would be really cool to see one or both of you break down the real life events that inspired the book and show. Margaret Atwood has said there was a lot in the book that had already happened somewhere in the world (and this was in the mid-1980's), which I'm sure contributes to KB's feeling of "This could happen here."
This was really nice, your channel and its podcast are ver refreshing. The one with auntie shie (I know it’s wrong it’s 2 in the morning) was also really good.
I’ve been watching KB for years and something about how he presents information feels so calm and grounded - definitely something to aspire to. Great stream!
Really loved this. Great to learn more about both of you. KB's thoughts on becoming an adult really hit home for me. Would love to see you two do another one of these together.
This was a blast to watch. I tried to catch the stream live as it was happening, but was only able to get about halfway then. Absolutely love both of your channels, and it was a very pleasant, respectful, and insightful conversation. Can't wait to see who's next!
Mr beat-I watched your entire Oregon trail video! Also the video where you called every U.S. senator was one to remember. Corey Booker is the man! KB- your videos are always well put together, it’s nice to learn history the way it was meant to be. The full story, true American history.
1:20:01 every other day i look at my RUclips feed and say “my god, not ANOTHER Hitler/WW2 documentary video!” but, then i watch it, insuring that my future history recommendations will be predominantly more of the same.
For the record, and maybe I just have too much free time, but you're both worth watching for the duration, be that 60 minutes or 180. Appreciate being informed and learning stuff I didn't know before. For instance US in The Philippines War, which as an Australian (born 1957) I knew of but had only a bare guess (given colonialism history) how bloody and brutal it were, which might have been suspected given how little it is mentioned.. After all, the First Nation in Australia did not get voting right until 1967, and an apology not until 2007, and perchance/consensus by vote in referendum for changes to constitution, by 2025, a voice in parliament nationally. Finally!! (at least I plucking hope so.)
I learned of a lot of history RUclips channels that I subscribed to by participating in various collaborations, some of which Mr. Beat also participated in. I found working with others as part of a larger playlist to be fun!
Gotta disagree with KB that English should be deemphasized. Rhetoric and how to use and recognize it is an important skill that is taught by English class. Rhetoric used to be a whole subject in and of itself, but now it’s been relegated to English class. I do agree though that the book report focused nature doesn’t do people much good, and can be liable to turn people off to literary analysis or reading altogether
I highly agree with KB about the more social studies and less English. Knowing as much social studies as I do now would have helped me tremendously in English to grasp the subjects I would write about. The books and literature you read in English are way too narrow in scope for understanding the broader scope of the topic. You can read Huckleberry Fin, To Kill A Mockingbird, or Uncle Tom's Cabin to learn some about black history in the US, but that history hits you so much harder when you read very detailed textbooks about the era. Everyone objects to learning about history of course because history is inherently political. If you see the same patterns repeated throughout your country's history, you might just realize influential parts of your society be implicated in tragic and unjust events.
Absolutely love these two, I’ve been subbed to KB for a while and I’m newer to Mr. Beat but they’re both at the top of my favorite creators list. Currently working through all of Mr. Beat’s videos, keep ‘em coming!!
Two of my favorite educational channels. I'm over 60 years of age but still want to learn. I took U.S. History in high school from a teacher who taught history as causes and effects rather than names, dates, and places, and he had a dry sense of humor that made history fascinating. His classes in U.S. history began with the Vikings landing in Canada and ended in the 1970s (I was taking this class in 1975), and I find instructors that teach in a similar fashion equally fascinating to listen to.
From talking about how you all would've been sargon or jordan peterson fans as youth, I find that so spot on to my experience, but apparently I have somehow, in my 20s gone through this sort of transformation that KB went through, where you start to realize this compassion for your fellow humans, and more open to the plight of people that are outside your experience. I think maybe what creates conservatism is the lack of this. Whether they're kids that start off right leaning, or elder adults that are living in the past.
Your Oregon Trail video was wonderful Mr Beat; I hate that it bombed, but I’m still happy it exists. I hope you aren’t afraid of making more just because of profitability.
I almost forgot! There's Xiran Jay Zhao for Chinese history! (Though tbf the reason I forgot them was because they started from a pop culture point (sort of - they first went viral for their live action Mulan review 😂). And while they were AFAB, they are NB, so hopefully they won't mind me grouping them with other women's history YT channels 😅🙈). They have videos on China's only Empress regnant Wu Zetian, and then other media reviews and the explanations of the historical/period elements behind it, and then there's also the video about a Chinese poet and his cats (and all the poems he wrote about them 😂😺😺). Anyhow, give them a watch!
While she isn't strictly a history youtuber the channel @AskAMortician does a lot of historical content, including releasing an hour long documentary on the SS Eastland disaster which RUclips unfairly demonetized.
So enlightening. In particular, I appreciated that you didn't always agree with each other. Otherwise, what would be the point?! Not in total agreement is one of the things I like about TYT, especially Cenk's push back. Anyway...I truly appreciate your channel, Mr. Beat. I'll tune in to Knowing Better now I know he exists. I will say that his varied life experiences bring a unique perspective which illustrates the possible differences between the two of you. As a Septuagenarian, I want to put my arms around him to make him feel safer. Wow! What a great exploration on different topics. Again, so enlightening!
This was a genuinely great conversation between two of my favorite history channels! I'd love to see a larger panel of this with some other people as well!
I liked the conversation but I think there was a generally unfounded pessimism in the sections discussing the future of the US. To focus on one thing, the abortion issue and overturning on Roe(I'm a law student and also recently completed a comparative constitutional law class). I'm going to be generalizing for multiple countries but have looked in depth at Germany, France, England, and some others. The conception that America is more regressive and/or getting more regressive relative to a lauded progressive European block or the whole world is incorrect(and I believe versions of this bias are driven by both sides of the partisan divide) especially in this subject. In general since around the time that roe was originally decided European abortion law has been: (1) all abortion is illegal (2) abortion after 12 weeks is criminalized (3) abortion processes require women to go before a government associated panel and/or multiple rounds of doctors to justify the reason for the abortion whom are legally obligated to attempt to dissuade the woman (while this is now usually a rubber stamp process in the end it's designed to pyschologically affect the women; many of these panels would detail all the financial incentives/public healthcare that the woman can receive to make the decision seem arbitrary and in fact in Germany I've seen evidence that these panels would bring up that Nazis performed forced abortions as a mechanism) (4) the public healthcare systems pick up the tab either way. It's also likely that because healthcare is nationalized in many of these countries that doctors were fairly compliant and strict with abiding by these laws. What's very shocking is basically that the pro life movement/GOP since Roe have been picking away at Roe by trying to replicate the European standard regime. Counter intuitively with the overturning of Roe, the average American still has higher legal access to abortion than most Europeans today. Funnily the US, which does have a lot of christians conservatives also has a strong pro choice movement that actually grew in response to the overturning and support for the roe/ casey standard is polling over 50% , most of the european countries are increasingly not religious but have little to no broad movements to increase access to abortion or to remove the various punitive barriers.
I agree that KB was generally too cynical. I do think the U.S. has been more progressive than Europe, in particular, when it comes to social issues and drug laws.
@@iammrbeat thanks for the reply! And yeah I don't mean to imply there isn't progress to be made in the US(from a pro choice perspective). But I think to avoid cynicism people have to have the whole narrative in front of them, if anything the US was actually far more progressive earlier than the most of the world(on this issue at least) and has now been set back by the Roe/Casey overturning but that also has set it up to likely reliberalize the issue soon. + On the Australia stuff I think they have some good stuff but also some bad stuff that other viewers may have been referencing: (1) Australian public election funding is directly proportional to vote share in the previous cycle for the same position(not terrible but it exponentially strengthens incumbent advantage) (2) their previous prime minister recently tried to administratively coup the government (3) they specifically didn't include several protected rights they considered adopting from the US in their constitution because(and this is documented in writing) they didn't want it used to protect east Asian immigrants in the future (4) they have a more fraught racial history than many realize including a lot of socially accepted black face characters... (5) their COVID lockdown stuff was actually more extreme than most countries but also constantly undermined by letting rich celebrities use it as haven during the lockdown while not allowing normal people to cross domestic territory borders.
The German “abortion process” is a compromise to accommodate the more catholic South of the country. The Protestant/ Lutheran North has always been more “pro-choice”, so the “consultation” requirement was introduced to get a national compromise. There a lots of national compromises as Germany is a Federal Republic of vastly different states. The consultation is not some scary panel but a conversation usually with one or two people over a cup of coffee/ tea in a rather comfortable environment. Talking to women who have been through the process or worked as consultants (e.g. female social workers), neither scary nor manipulative. The “Nazi reference” sounds rather misleading in my opinion as well… in some countries almost every child with Down syndrome and similar disabilities will get aborted, however in Germany the testing for those conditions is optional and even an abortion is still only an option. Everyone in Germany knows that the Nazis murdered disabled people, so many people make a conscious choice to reject that attitude towards people with disabilities. Due to universal healthcare e.g. they would not have to pay for certain genetic testing but choose not to do it as they believe people with disabilities live full and meaningful lives (in contrast to what the Nazis believed - “useless eaters”). All/ Most Germans know what the Nazis did to disabled people, and women who made “poor reproductive choices” - forced abortions and sterilisations, etc - these are not things that are brought at some “abortion panels” as some surprise or something….. Germans know their history, it is everywhere, all the time…. so talking about it is just part of life. Topics like Euthanasia, Eugenics, etc. will always be a different topics in Germany due to the Nazis murdering disabled people. Disabled German people will never fully trust medical personnel in many ways…. how medical establishment treats and views disabled life… and maybe 🤔 people with disabilities in other countries shouldn’t trust those in power and the medical establishment either….
@@Lorenz1973 my point wasn't that the German process is inherently bad, but that it has been undoubtedly less pro choice than the US during the Roe standard and than many states even post Roe despite a common sentiment in the US left that the US is notably more conservative on this and other issues than the world and specific northern european countries. I think if we were actually value comparing the countries in their totality or on this issue, it's really a matter of various tradeoffs. Let's assume a woman who wants or needs an abortion has the choice of where to instantly be(no additional exceptional circumstances), if she is lacking funds and under 12 weeks, Germany would provide better access, if she has funds and is 13 weeks the US provides better access, if she's 13 weeks and lacks funds she wouldn't be in a good position in either but maybe the US would still be better because she could potentially take on debt that would(at least purely economically) be trivial in comparison to other healthcare costs of giving birth/having a child. Ultimately, this extends far beyond abortion as a policy issue, most countries of a certain level of health, freedom and security offer structures that optimize for different things, preference different situations(and inherently deprioritize others) and people should think of that before idealizing other systems.
I chose a career in City Planning in part for my love of urban design and geography. Unfortunately the job itself is rather dull and highly subject to political meddling. If you live in a car-oriented area, it can be incredibly frustrating to see your new urbanism dreams dashed by the city council that prefers to spend money on widening roadways. In areas that value their urban fabric, public processes are extremely long and drawn out.
Re: Women in Historytube - I'd recommend: •Nicole Rudolph (Fashion History - hella solid research, also has videos on the material history related to clothing/garment (the arsenic as a component in fabric/wallpaper coloring is an example)) •Danielle Bainbridge from PBS Origins (Social history - such as the origin of proms in high school, though sometimes she dwells into more serious topics like the origin of african slavery in the western hemisphere and the second amendment in the US Constitution. The channel itself currently focuses on Pirate History, so the presenter is different, but she has a lot of video backlog in the channel) •Reading the Past with Dr. Kat (English History - Tudor and Elizabethan era in particular, though occasionally she'd go a few centuries back and a few centuries forward, she has a few videos about the Regency era as well.) •Xiran Jay Zhao (Chinese History - might not be strictly a history channel (because they started with media review) but they have videos on China's only Empress regnant Wu Zetian, and some more...) (I already wrote this comment but GFDI it got accidentally removed when I tried to edit it grrrrrr 😒🙄😤🤦🏾)
I think it's cos his videos are so long so for whatever reason they don't get pushed by the algorithm:( I only found him on nebula actually I had never been pushed anything on RUclips and he makes amazing content
Hi Mr. Beat, I really like your Channel and wanted to ask if you could make a video on why Alexander Hamilton was completely forgotten as a US-Founding Father until the musical of Lin-Manuel Miranda came out? Best regards Sonia
Your quote at 1:17:00 inspired me. Im going to make a history education RUclips channel where I'm going to go through public school history textbooks and teach the lessons as the book does and follow it up with teaching the history as it actually is.
I had kids at 20. Honestly, it was a struggle but it is worth it. You are gonna pay a million for them, sure, but if you put anything into them, the reward is far beyond anything you can imagine. And I am not talking in your nursing home years, but in the lessons, challenges, and growth they give you on a daily basis. My children have done a great job making me aware of the balance between critical reasoning and intuition. I had two early on, and another after a 10 year break. We have done public, charter, and home school with each kid separately. Honestly, I was a bit struck - but not surprised - that you were both against homeschooling. I think it comes down to the child, first, but home schooling has already paid off dividends with the youngest. Minor disappointment aside, I wish our social structure was more hospitable to family and children. I am still a proponent of 'the issue is the suburb design' and other reasons that lead into cronyism v community.
I'm a geography major who works in landscaping for some local parks in order to pay for my tuition. I felt myself being represented in the first portion of the interview.
A great example of a guy who breaks his video into parts and does a great job at it is Bobby Broccoli. His videos on academic dishonesty in physics are very fascinating and it seems like most people watch all the parts (some are 3 parts) given the comments. I don’t think there’s a right answer. It’s what works best for your style. Your videos work as a single video, and I tend to watch the whole thing even if it’s long. One of the good things about breaking it into parts though is that a video that’s 2 and a half hours long can be broken into parts. I don’t usually have 2 hours to watch a video on RUclips and would love to be able to say watch part 1 and come back later and watch the rest.
Personally, I would love to hear KB’s opinion on the Iraq war. Him being a former veteran would give unique perspective on a topic that I feel like is only broadly addressed.
Biggest political issue at this time in America: KB: sex and gender issues. Mr. Beat: poverty and income inequality. Me: yes. When capitalism collapses, it becomes socialism or barbarism (fascism).
My 2 favorite RUclipsrs on the same video! 💗 I'm not a strictly history 'tuber, but I do cover crimes in history, if you want to count that 🤷♀️ I like going deep into crimes that have some kind of wider significance, like how it changed the culture, laws, etc.
I'm a substitute teacher in Los Angeles, and this last week i was at a school where one student absolutely terrorized his classmates with his behavior. I stepped in to stop him, i grabbed a stick he was using as a weapon, and then i got a talking to by one of the permanent teachers that grabbing the stick was a bad idea, that this child's parents would have me fired if they found out. Absolute insanity.
In regards to standardized tests, I dislike the current way they work. I get the need for a measuring stick to determine how intelligent someone is, but I don't think they handle what someone is good at. Personally, I always struggled with the English tests, but that didn't show what I was good at. I was also really bad about second guessing myself on multiple choice questions. I feel like testing someone's strengths over time would be more important, even if that's a trade instead of an academic subject. At the very least, teachers shouldn't be judged on the output of students in a general sense. Strengths could be found through grades or standardized tests, but improvements of educational development would probably show through the student's improvements on their strengths, not from their general ability. I remember so many teachers getting nervous around standardized testing season and encouraging students a little more or giving a basic summary during that time to make sure the students did well. Some people did great because they were naturally talented with academics. Some people did great because they thought it would go on their "permanent record." Other students tried to prepare as best as they could, but did poorly because the subjects covered by standardized tests aren't their strengths. In that last case of my generalization, there were students that just didn't care because they were already sick of the subjects. At the end of the day, standardized testing isn't a perfect method. I'm not suggesting my concept of testing based on strengths is the way either, but I figured I'd comment since you are both teachers and have a personal perspective on the topic.
On KB points on how movements haven’t caused change, I think it’s mainly because these movements lack a good leader to guide things and also that sometimes, things don’t change right away. Right now im taking a class on the voting rights act and to me it’s kind of crazy how long it took for black people to get that right. There was ton of good change after the civil war, then after awhile they lost all those rights, then it took ~60 years of fighting just to get that right back. My teacher also mentioned how the death of Booker T Washington was a big deal for the movement because he accepted segregation but once he died, it allowed for people who weren’t supportive of this to take over and lead way(which again, empathizes how leaders of the movements can affect things). Another interesting thing I have taken from the class was how strategic MLK really was. For example, he chose the location of Selma on purpose because he thought it would perfectly illustrate his issue of blacks needing the right to vote. When I think of stuff like Black Lives Matter, it was just a lot of people protesting something obviously bad, but there was no really big figure explaining what needs to change. Of course I have my own ideas on what to change but does everyone protesting it also agree with me, probably not. Granted, I will say that things are definitely a lot harder now a days compared to before. For example, my teacher mentions how during the MLK days, there was only like 3 stations so when the news reported something, everyone saw it. Now a days, there is just too much information out there and we all aren’t watching the same thing. Like yeah, a bunch of the main stream media could be reporting on one issue, but then what if my neighbor is watching some extreme RUclipsr to get his news because he doesn’t trust the mainstream media. Now we both live in two extremely different worlds and it takes a lot more work to get us to agree then it probably would have in the past
English and social studies teacher here. I absolutely understand the response, but it is awful that neither of you would touch education again. We cannot attract and retain educators, and I often consider leaving the profession myself but I also worry, "Who, then, will do it?" And while I love KB, he may be making a grave mistake "realizing that English class is merely book report class." There are poor social studies teachers and poor English teachers and constructing arguments, defending against flawed arguments - both malicious and foolish. And the interplay between art and society are very much in the baliwick of the English class. Don't push for supremecy, but interplay and interrconnection, please. And, dovetailing with this, you reference The Handmaid's Tale later which is art that allows us to consider possibilities and use it as a metaphor and cultural touchstone. Please, please don't see or describe education as an either or situation. Christian Right and income/populism concerns, but what about climate change? Thanks KB for calling out the Forward Party. Thanks for calling out Maza, especially, as I suspect he may be a bit further down the ideological line from you both.
Like KB, losing my parents in my early twenties over long ordeals with the healthcare industry made me change my views on empathy, and how the social contract just doesn't work for all.
To be fair to hbomberguy, he has made plenty of overtly political content before, and I'm sure that only ever making one type of content can lead to burnout if the creator doesn't want to limit their channel in that way. Also, there are bits and pieces of it even in his other videos, and entertaining off-topic videos can lead people to check out his other work.
A bit of feedback here regarding the Oregon Trail video here- admittedly I haven’t even watched that yet, but I don’t think the reason that people have been hesitant to click on it is because it covers westward expansion, which is somewhat different from your usual history content. I would definitely click on a Mr. Beat video about westward expansion, I don’t think most of your audience really views you as just the president guy. The thing for me, was just based on the title and thumbnail alone, it didn’t really even seem like it was about westward expansion. Like it didn’t really come across as a history video as much as it did a travel vlog/ Tesla promo or something like that. And maybe I’m wrong, and it actually is packed full of history content, but that isn’t what it comes across of at first glance, from the title and thumbnail. I think that’s more the issue, not that it goes outside your usual scope of history content.
@@iammrbeat yea, I don’t doubt that haha. It just doesn’t give off that vibe at first glance, I think that’s why a lot of people ended up passing it over
@@Dreadlock1227 I agree with this as well. Totally missed a gem because I thought it was just a scenic tour kind of video. I'm absolutely checking it out after this one now that I know better.
I appreciate that this is two months old now, but for question 5. Amy Shira Teitel of Vintage Space (early cold war history about space exploration) is pretty neat. There are plenty of female science communicators as well. But I appreciate that the fact that I can only think of one history one still answers your point.
Would love to see y'all delving more into Question 7 in future videos. As a 31 y/o male I'm seeing more and more of my younger friends having kids while I'm an adamant antinatalist. Some historical context on birth rates, immigration, etc could be fascinating.
There's a shit ton of people who don't have a home AND work!! I only recently learned this and am so fucking disappointed in how governments are dealing with the ridiculous rent prices.
Love you both. Mr. Beat - I have since watched the Oregon trail video and like it. The reason I didn’t click at first is the thumbnail kinda made it seem like a family video about EVs rather than a history video. I’m not saying I’m right about that but that was my reasoning for being less click-happy with it. That’s just some feedback and I’m sorry a video you loved didn’t do well.
@2:40:30 just wanted to add that h3h3 has since also gotten off that bandwagon and, for a long time now, also been very vocal about how they do, and ppl can, acknowledge that they have been wrong/lacking empathy in the past and continue personal growth moving forward with understanding and supporting others personal experiences.
@iammrbeat and @knowingbetter I’m SO glad KB mentioned the lack of female history educators on YT!!! I watch so many of you “guys”-plus a plethora of Political and Religious History channels like: Atun-Shei Films, Useful Charts, Joe Scott, Legal Eagle, Digital Hammurabi, etc. I’m a even a Nebula subscriber! I comment every day that y’all need a female’s perspective on all your channels. I’m at Gen-Xer who has always had an unquenchable thirst for knowledge especially history and language, which is why I have a degree in English and Linguistics …. (KB, I have a bone to pick about thinking English class is a never ending book report class- that’s just crappy English teachers😂!) If a woman would want to start a history RUclips channel, what advice would you give?
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I love how friendly KB comes off. It’s not like I had any doubt, but he spends so much of his videos talking about dark topics and getting rightfully angry that it’s fun to see him chill out. I appreciate all his work and that of Mr. Beat.
Thanks for watching. And he's a very friendly dude. I love him.
@@iammrbeat you're lucky to know him, it seems. Good faith, effortful educators are the best people imo
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My two favourite educational RUclipsrs united in the quest to satisfy our thirst for knowledge in a humourous yet serious manner. You both have done tremendous over the years, and I know that you can produce the same high-quality content in the future. Keep up the great work!
These are also my favorite educators they are always producing the highest quality materials
Thank you so much! That means a lot. :)
I read "Lies My Teacher Told Me" by James Loewen about 25 years ago, and it changed my view of American history forever. I was stunned with how much I didn't know. I am old enough to be Mr Beat's and KB's father, but in my perfect time warp world, you guys would be my high school US History teachers.
Same. Then on to read A People's History.
This is my favorite crossover in years.
Woah thank you so much, Mike!
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Honestly, I just want to thank knowing better for sharing his experiences with addiction, the military, an empathy. Being open about these things is such a good thing for people to hear and especially in this long form conversational context.
Its sad hearing that he teaches children given how deeply misinformed he is about so many issues. He has a surface level understanding of many things yet acts like he is an expert. Like about CRT or the SAT.
@@jhonklan3794I think his work has a lot of potential for good but I agree sometimes he says sus things
@@jhonklan3794 what do you disagree with him on regarding CRT and the SAT
Y’all should start a podcast
Well technically THIS is a podcast. :)
We love your Oregon Trail video! My wife and I refer to it as "Mr Beat: the Movie" now.
:) That is amazing
I thought your Oregon Trail video was massively brilliant - it's how I first came across your channel and became a fan of your content. Great stuff!
Def. watching this to pass time at work tomorrow, thnx for the content guys!
Hope you enjoy it!
That's exactly what I'm doing right now
"Now is the time, two titans meet. As it was written." - Samuel Hayden
Hey! if you mentioned bernadette banner, ill say a lot of the female "history" youtubers do seem to cover material history, especially fashion history a lot. Abby Cox was a reenactor, also does fashion history videos. SnappyDragon covers jewish fashion history. NotYourMommasHistory posted black reenactor videos (sadly hasn't posted in a year). But yes, there is a big focus on material history (dress, hairstyles, food) probably because women's history hasn't been as recorded except via material history.
Thank you so much for this -- i think a lot of your political trajectory has taken a similar bent than mine and seeing you guys grow as i have has been very encouraging. Still very sad the left is so bad at communication or coalescing to compromise (the right has lots of kooks and they don't let that embarrass them or dilute them!), but we'll see. I feel as a country we have made huge strides in some aspects in my 20 years being politically involved. The near-total acceptance on marijuana and gay marriage is something I thought unimaginable as a young antiwar libertarian (now more left-lib/soc-dem/anarchist bend) in 2002. Even though there is a lot to be cynical in the lack of progress and reactionary forces I think there is a lot to be hopeful about, too. Things will probably get worse, but they will also get better, I think. Just on different axes.
I'm a big fan of Not Your Momma's History, but like you said she hasn't posted in so long. It's funny, one of my most popular videos is about the history of high heels. :) And yeah it does sound we've evolved similarly politically!
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It blows my mind that between the two of you, neither of you came up with the name Kathy Joseph. She is the TOP history RUclipsr in my book. At least for the niche that she covers.
And because the best of RUclips is better than anything else out there, this means that Kathy Joseph is the BEST HISTORIAN in the world. To me. For her stuff.
And neither of you know about her?! Very strange.
@@dahawk8574 Um...buddy...I was a guest on Kathy's channel.
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Well that makes it all the more BIZARRE that you gave her zero credit here.
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The strange has gotten even stranger. I have done a thorough search for such a video, where you appear on Kathy's channel. I cannot find it. I've searched her channel. I have searched all of RUclips. I have searched the entire internet...
Nothing.
Now it is possible that the video was made and posted, and then taken down. But I cannot think of a reason why such a video would be switched to private.
If I were to take a guess as to what has happened here, I would see it to be possible that you are thinking of some other RUclipsr. Not Kathy Joseph. Because if you DID talk to her, then she would have made the same kind of strong impression on you that she has on me, and many thousands of others. As I have indicated, she is AMAZING. Not a person to be easily forgotten. And if anyone asked me to name a history RUclipsr who is female, she would be THE FIRST person I would shout out.
You _and_ KB failing to come up with her name, and pointing other lost souls over to her channel is a major opportunity lost.
For anyone who does know of the existence of a Kathy Joseph Meets Mr Beat video, I would be very grateful for a link, or to be pointed in a warmer direction.
It was nice seeing two of my friends talk. Great questions! Would have been better if I could have been there though. Haven't seen either of you in forever.
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Gimme 10k
Very enjoyable conversation. He seems like a nice fellow. I wasn't familiar with him until now, but I will certainly check him out. Plus I like long form history videos and podcasts. I wish Dan Carlin's were longer! Haha
His videos are great. I love both these channels
Just because of this video I’m going to watch the Oregon trail video.
YAS! Thank you!
@@iammrbeat I honestly loved the Oregon Trail video. I've probably watched it 5 times. Keep doing longer videos!
The 2 youtubers that inspired me to becoming an educator. 2 GOATS
I know it’s not y’all’s subject, but I would love to hear an open forum with y’all and a bunch of other EduTubers on the homelessness situation in America. This personally affected me because about 7 years ago I was homeless hitchhiking around the Midwest and eventually making my way to PA. I eventually had to join the army to escape my situation after a year of homelessness, but the struggle is real for millions of people like myself. I think if you were to pull some larger RUclipsrs into a discussion on that, perhaps a serious impact could be made. Just a thought.
Also, love the video so far. I’m a huge fan. I love hearing both of y’all mention RUclips channels that I also watch.
NotJustBikes is also one of my favorites. Just goes to show the power of the algorithm to bring people together
Abby Cox and Karolina Zebrowska are two big female history youtubers that make great content
Right on. Thanks for bringing them to our attention.
@viktor8552 Thank you for that suggestion!! There are not enough female history RUclipsrs!!
So I had to stop mid playthrough to address these 2 points that I feel pretty strongly about.
Knowing Better makes the comment about how surprising it is that many history channels are right leaning (possibly far right even). This also shocked me when I discovered this because I was under the impression that someone with an understanding of the past and history should also see how destructive the aristocracy, patricians, the wealthy noble elites could be to societies that rise and fall through time. In my mind, the past is romanticized to a few great men who did great things, and anyone who daydreams about past civilizations does so with the notion that they'd be more than a simple plebian, and completely unaware of how poor living conditions could actually be. My limited armchair historian knowledge seems to show many examples of conservatism leading to the fall of empires.
My next thought was when Mr. Beat brought up the topic of populists. I had been binge watching an awesome Roman republic series (Historia Civilis is great!) On loop awhile back and was intrigued by how similar our legal and political systems have been influenced by the western Roman empire. Political donations are considered "free speech rights," that's called a bribe (sorry my brain devolved into less coherent thoughts I didn't have time to organize better.)
With regards to women entering the space (5th/6th question), an example of KB's idea of being harassed by male fans was the whole "female chest armour" debate between Shadiversity fans and some female creators, notable Jill Bearup. There was a lot of just blatant dismissal of Jill and other female creators' opinions, even though they are just as knowledgeable. Especially on topics that are discussed in which a male perspective has been the pervasive perspective for a long time (most topics), a lot of people are still very... unwilling to accept an opinion, even one with more historical basis, when it's coming from a woman, which I'm sure would put a lot of women off creating content and I think, in a broader sense, has prevented women from entering the space in schools and academia more broadly too.
I've had to watch this video in stages because of the length, but I was so excited when I saw both of you were talking together!!
Speaking of Handmaid's Tale, I think it would be really cool to see one or both of you break down the real life events that inspired the book and show. Margaret Atwood has said there was a lot in the book that had already happened somewhere in the world (and this was in the mid-1980's), which I'm sure contributes to KB's feeling of "This could happen here."
This was great. Keep doing these Mr. Beat.
that beard and jacket on mr beat looking snazzy as fuck
This was really nice, your channel and its podcast are ver refreshing. The one with auntie shie (I know it’s wrong it’s 2 in the morning) was also really good.
The ultimate crossover i never knew i needed
I’ve been watching KB for years and something about how he presents information feels so calm and grounded - definitely something to aspire to. Great stream!
Fuck I can't wait to listen to this at work
I agree. This kind of video is perfect for work.
Yeah it's also up on Spotify as a podcast. :)
@@iammrbeat alright well I'm fangirling a little. Im a huge fan of you both, much love from Florida
Really loved this. Great to learn more about both of you. KB's thoughts on becoming an adult really hit home for me. Would love to see you two do another one of these together.
This was a blast to watch. I tried to catch the stream live as it was happening, but was only able to get about halfway then. Absolutely love both of your channels, and it was a very pleasant, respectful, and insightful conversation. Can't wait to see who's next!
Mr Beat can you put timestamps to the questions? It would be very helpful.
Hopefully we will later today!
@@iammrbeat u da best
Some of my favourite yt working together
Thanks for watching!
Mr beat-I watched your entire Oregon trail video! Also the video where you called every U.S. senator was one to remember. Corey Booker is the man!
KB- your videos are always well put together, it’s nice to learn history the way it was meant to be. The full story, true American history.
MR BEAT!!!!! And KB?! Yes I'm watching.
I really just came when the stream ended
I see you, though. Thanks for watching.
@@iammrbeat I did see you stream earlier, but I was at school
I loved the super long Oregon trail video!! I know they're not for everybody but gimme dem minutes
Best crossover ever for me, my two favorite educators
Awesome seeing you two!
It was a fun conversation!
1:20:01 every other day i look at my RUclips feed and say “my god, not ANOTHER Hitler/WW2 documentary video!” but, then i watch it, insuring that my future history recommendations will be predominantly more of the same.
For the record, and maybe I just have too much free time, but you're both worth watching for the duration, be that 60 minutes or 180.
Appreciate being informed and learning stuff I didn't know before. For instance US in The Philippines War, which as an Australian (born 1957) I knew of but had only a bare guess (given colonialism history) how bloody and brutal it were, which might have been suspected given how little it is mentioned.. After all, the First Nation in Australia did not get voting right until 1967, and an apology not until 2007, and perchance/consensus by vote in referendum for changes to constitution, by 2025, a voice in parliament nationally. Finally!! (at least I plucking hope so.)
I learned of a lot of history RUclips channels that I subscribed to by participating in various collaborations, some of which Mr. Beat also participated in. I found working with others as part of a larger playlist to be fun!
WHAT? I can't believe my two favorite educational youtubers collabed more than a year ago and I hadn't noticed until now
Great questions! Such a good listen!
Gotta disagree with KB that English should be deemphasized. Rhetoric and how to use and recognize it is an important skill that is taught by English class. Rhetoric used to be a whole subject in and of itself, but now it’s been relegated to English class. I do agree though that the book report focused nature doesn’t do people much good, and can be liable to turn people off to literary analysis or reading altogether
I highly agree with KB about the more social studies and less English. Knowing as much social studies as I do now would have helped me tremendously in English to grasp the subjects I would write about. The books and literature you read in English are way too narrow in scope for understanding the broader scope of the topic. You can read Huckleberry Fin, To Kill A Mockingbird, or Uncle Tom's Cabin to learn some about black history in the US, but that history hits you so much harder when you read very detailed textbooks about the era.
Everyone objects to learning about history of course because history is inherently political. If you see the same patterns repeated throughout your country's history, you might just realize influential parts of your society be implicated in tragic and unjust events.
Absolutely love these two, I’ve been subbed to KB for a while and I’m newer to Mr. Beat but they’re both at the top of my favorite creators list. Currently working through all of Mr. Beat’s videos, keep ‘em coming!!
Two of my favorite educational channels. I'm over 60 years of age but still want to learn. I took U.S. History in high school from a teacher who taught history as causes and effects rather than names, dates, and places, and he had a dry sense of humor that made history fascinating. His classes in U.S. history began with the Vikings landing in Canada and ended in the 1970s (I was taking this class in 1975), and I find instructors that teach in a similar fashion equally fascinating to listen to.
KB is a beast! a true treasure.
From talking about how you all would've been sargon or jordan peterson fans as youth, I find that so spot on to my experience, but apparently I have somehow, in my 20s gone through this sort of transformation that KB went through, where you start to realize this compassion for your fellow humans, and more open to the plight of people that are outside your experience. I think maybe what creates conservatism is the lack of this. Whether they're kids that start off right leaning, or elder adults that are living in the past.
I have never been suggested your Oregon Trail video - I'll go watch it.
Your Oregon Trail video was wonderful Mr Beat; I hate that it bombed, but I’m still happy it exists. I hope you aren’t afraid of making more just because of profitability.
WOW! Worlds collide! My two favorite history youtubers together! Thank you so much!
I continue to love both of your channels, and this was such a treat. I appreciate you doing content like this!
I love ya'll both so much :)
I didn't see the smaller spin-off videos from knowing better. They did not get served to me by the algorithm
Same
I almost forgot! There's Xiran Jay Zhao for Chinese history! (Though tbf the reason I forgot them was because they started from a pop culture point (sort of - they first went viral for their live action Mulan review 😂). And while they were AFAB, they are NB, so hopefully they won't mind me grouping them with other women's history YT channels 😅🙈).
They have videos on China's only Empress regnant Wu Zetian, and then other media reviews and the explanations of the historical/period elements behind it, and then there's also the video about a Chinese poet and his cats (and all the poems he wrote about them 😂😺😺). Anyhow, give them a watch!
While she isn't strictly a history youtuber the channel @AskAMortician does a lot of historical content, including releasing an hour long documentary on the SS Eastland disaster which RUclips unfairly demonetized.
Thanks for bringing them to our attention!
Yes! She's one of my faves too!
So enlightening. In particular, I appreciated that you didn't always agree with each other. Otherwise, what would be the point?! Not in total agreement is one of the things I like about TYT, especially Cenk's push back. Anyway...I truly appreciate your channel, Mr. Beat. I'll tune in to Knowing Better now I know he exists. I will say that his varied life experiences bring a unique perspective which illustrates the possible differences between the two of you. As a Septuagenarian, I want to put my arms around him to make him feel safer. Wow! What a great exploration on different topics. Again, so enlightening!
This was a genuinely great conversation between two of my favorite history channels! I'd love to see a larger panel of this with some other people as well!
Just wanted to say that this video is a breath of fresh air. You two are great.
Peace!
I liked the conversation but I think there was a generally unfounded pessimism in the sections discussing the future of the US. To focus on one thing, the abortion issue and overturning on Roe(I'm a law student and also recently completed a comparative constitutional law class). I'm going to be generalizing for multiple countries but have looked in depth at Germany, France, England, and some others. The conception that America is more regressive and/or getting more regressive relative to a lauded progressive European block or the whole world is incorrect(and I believe versions of this bias are driven by both sides of the partisan divide) especially in this subject. In general since around the time that roe was originally decided European abortion law has been: (1) all abortion is illegal (2) abortion after 12 weeks is criminalized (3) abortion processes require women to go before a government associated panel and/or multiple rounds of doctors to justify the reason for the abortion whom are legally obligated to attempt to dissuade the woman (while this is now usually a rubber stamp process in the end it's designed to pyschologically affect the women; many of these panels would detail all the financial incentives/public healthcare that the woman can receive to make the decision seem arbitrary and in fact in Germany I've seen evidence that these panels would bring up that Nazis performed forced abortions as a mechanism) (4) the public healthcare systems pick up the tab either way. It's also likely that because healthcare is nationalized in many of these countries that doctors were fairly compliant and strict with abiding by these laws. What's very shocking is basically that the pro life movement/GOP since Roe have been picking away at Roe by trying to replicate the European standard regime. Counter intuitively with the overturning of Roe, the average American still has higher legal access to abortion than most Europeans today. Funnily the US, which does have a lot of christians conservatives also has a strong pro choice movement that actually grew in response to the overturning and support for the roe/ casey standard is polling over 50% , most of the european countries are increasingly not religious but have little to no broad movements to increase access to abortion or to remove the various punitive barriers.
I agree that KB was generally too cynical. I do think the U.S. has been more progressive than Europe, in particular, when it comes to social issues and drug laws.
@@iammrbeat thanks for the reply! And yeah I don't mean to imply there isn't progress to be made in the US(from a pro choice perspective). But I think to avoid cynicism people have to have the whole narrative in front of them, if anything the US was actually far more progressive earlier than the most of the world(on this issue at least) and has now been set back by the Roe/Casey overturning but that also has set it up to likely reliberalize the issue soon. + On the Australia stuff I think they have some good stuff but also some bad stuff that other viewers may have been referencing: (1) Australian public election funding is directly proportional to vote share in the previous cycle for the same position(not terrible but it exponentially strengthens incumbent advantage) (2) their previous prime minister recently tried to administratively coup the government (3) they specifically didn't include several protected rights they considered adopting from the US in their constitution because(and this is documented in writing) they didn't want it used to protect east Asian immigrants in the future (4) they have a more fraught racial history than many realize including a lot of socially accepted black face characters... (5) their COVID lockdown stuff was actually more extreme than most countries but also constantly undermined by letting rich celebrities use it as haven during the lockdown while not allowing normal people to cross domestic territory borders.
I agree, if smart people are too afraid to have kids you're just making the problem worse
The German “abortion process” is a compromise to accommodate the more catholic South of the country. The Protestant/ Lutheran North has always been more “pro-choice”, so the “consultation” requirement was introduced to get a national compromise. There a lots of national compromises as Germany is a Federal Republic of vastly different states. The consultation is not some scary panel but a conversation usually with one or two people over a cup of coffee/ tea in a rather comfortable environment. Talking to women who have been through the process or worked as consultants (e.g. female social workers), neither scary nor manipulative.
The “Nazi reference” sounds rather misleading in my opinion as well… in some countries almost every child with Down syndrome and similar disabilities will get aborted, however in Germany the testing for those conditions is optional and even an abortion is still only an option. Everyone in Germany knows that the Nazis murdered disabled people, so many people make a conscious choice to reject that attitude towards people with disabilities. Due to universal healthcare e.g. they would not have to pay for certain genetic testing but choose not to do it as they believe people with disabilities live full and meaningful lives (in contrast to what the Nazis believed - “useless eaters”). All/ Most Germans know what the Nazis did to disabled people, and women who made “poor reproductive choices” - forced abortions and sterilisations, etc - these are not things that are brought at some “abortion panels” as some surprise or something….. Germans know their history, it is everywhere, all the time…. so talking about it is just part of life. Topics like Euthanasia, Eugenics, etc. will always be a different topics in Germany due to the Nazis murdering disabled people. Disabled German people will never fully trust medical personnel in many ways…. how medical establishment treats and views disabled life… and maybe 🤔 people with disabilities in other countries shouldn’t trust those in power and the medical establishment either….
@@Lorenz1973 my point wasn't that the German process is inherently bad, but that it has been undoubtedly less pro choice than the US during the Roe standard and than many states even post Roe despite a common sentiment in the US left that the US is notably more conservative on this and other issues than the world and specific northern european countries. I think if we were actually value comparing the countries in their totality or on this issue, it's really a matter of various tradeoffs. Let's assume a woman who wants or needs an abortion has the choice of where to instantly be(no additional exceptional circumstances), if she is lacking funds and under 12 weeks, Germany would provide better access, if she has funds and is 13 weeks the US provides better access, if she's 13 weeks and lacks funds she wouldn't be in a good position in either but maybe the US would still be better because she could potentially take on debt that would(at least purely economically) be trivial in comparison to other healthcare costs of giving birth/having a child. Ultimately, this extends far beyond abortion as a policy issue, most countries of a certain level of health, freedom and security offer structures that optimize for different things, preference different situations(and inherently deprioritize others) and people should think of that before idealizing other systems.
I chose a career in City Planning in part for my love of urban design and geography. Unfortunately the job itself is rather dull and highly subject to political meddling. If you live in a car-oriented area, it can be incredibly frustrating to see your new urbanism dreams dashed by the city council that prefers to spend money on widening roadways. In areas that value their urban fabric, public processes are extremely long and drawn out.
Really enjoyed the section wrt women and history youtube. Very heartening to see two dudes welcoming to women creators
This is such an EPIC interview :)
Love both of you!
Re: Women in Historytube - I'd recommend:
•Nicole Rudolph (Fashion History - hella solid research, also has videos on the material history related to clothing/garment (the arsenic as a component in fabric/wallpaper coloring is an example))
•Danielle Bainbridge from PBS Origins (Social history - such as the origin of proms in high school, though sometimes she dwells into more serious topics like the origin of african slavery in the western hemisphere and the second amendment in the US Constitution. The channel itself currently focuses on Pirate History, so the presenter is different, but she has a lot of video backlog in the channel)
•Reading the Past with Dr. Kat (English History - Tudor and Elizabethan era in particular, though occasionally she'd go a few centuries back and a few centuries forward, she has a few videos about the Regency era as well.)
•Xiran Jay Zhao (Chinese History - might not be strictly a history channel (because they started with media review) but they have videos on China's only Empress regnant Wu Zetian, and some more...)
(I already wrote this comment but GFDI it got accidentally removed when I tried to edit it grrrrrr 😒🙄😤🤦🏾)
I love KBs content and like them but you don't pop up in my feed much. It's a bummer but keep going guys it's awesome stuff
I think it's cos his videos are so long so for whatever reason they don't get pushed by the algorithm:( I only found him on nebula actually I had never been pushed anything on RUclips and he makes amazing content
Hi Mr. Beat, I really like your Channel and wanted to ask if you could make a video on why Alexander Hamilton was completely forgotten as a US-Founding Father until
the musical of Lin-Manuel Miranda came out? Best regards Sonia
My 20yr concern is autocracy winning against democracy
"Reduce police funding" also has 3 words and isn't as easily misconstrued as "defund the police".
Yes it is
i really just missed this
Aw dang, well at least I saw this!
For the algorithm!
Much appreciated!
The education from you two are better than most schools I went to.
Well thank you, but that's kind of sad tbh.
Your quote at 1:17:00 inspired me. Im going to make a history education RUclips channel where I'm going to go through public school history textbooks and teach the lessons as the book does and follow it up with teaching the history as it actually is.
Fuck yeah brother
See you at the top!
Absolutely wonderful conversation. Both of you are doing great work.
I had kids at 20. Honestly, it was a struggle but it is worth it. You are gonna pay a million for them, sure, but if you put anything into them, the reward is far beyond anything you can imagine. And I am not talking in your nursing home years, but in the lessons, challenges, and growth they give you on a daily basis. My children have done a great job making me aware of the balance between critical reasoning and intuition.
I had two early on, and another after a 10 year break. We have done public, charter, and home school with each kid separately. Honestly, I was a bit struck - but not surprised - that you were both against homeschooling. I think it comes down to the child, first, but home schooling has already paid off dividends with the youngest.
Minor disappointment aside, I wish our social structure was more hospitable to family and children. I am still a proponent of 'the issue is the suburb design' and other reasons that lead into cronyism v community.
I'm a geography major who works in landscaping for some local parks in order to pay for my tuition. I felt myself being represented in the first portion of the interview.
as a KB fan, I loved the Oregon trail vid mr beat😭
A great example of a guy who breaks his video into parts and does a great job at it is Bobby Broccoli. His videos on academic dishonesty in physics are very fascinating and it seems like most people watch all the parts (some are 3 parts) given the comments.
I don’t think there’s a right answer. It’s what works best for your style. Your videos work as a single video, and I tend to watch the whole thing even if it’s long. One of the good things about breaking it into parts though is that a video that’s 2 and a half hours long can be broken into parts. I don’t usually have 2 hours to watch a video on RUclips and would love to be able to say watch part 1 and come back later and watch the rest.
Look at the view counts. It's clear that people watch Part 1, but by Part 3, there's maybe a third of the views.
Personally, I would love to hear KB’s opinion on the Iraq war. Him being a former veteran would give unique perspective on a topic that I feel like is only broadly addressed.
I have to thank the algorithm for this. Subbed to both this is a treat
Biggest political issue at this time in America:
KB: sex and gender issues.
Mr. Beat: poverty and income inequality.
Me: yes.
When capitalism collapses, it becomes socialism or barbarism (fascism).
Speaking of female historians, there’s Lindsay Holiday. I think her channel is called History Tea Time
I can't believe I didn't think of her! She is great!
My 2 favorite RUclipsrs on the same video! 💗
I'm not a strictly history 'tuber, but I do cover crimes in history, if you want to count that 🤷♀️ I like going deep into crimes that have some kind of wider significance, like how it changed the culture, laws, etc.
Is this the same Mr Best who decides who gets to have eyes?
Exactly
I enjoy this video!!!!!! And I love the collaboration between the fav RUclipsrs!!!!!:)
I'm a substitute teacher in Los Angeles, and this last week i was at a school where one student absolutely terrorized his classmates with his behavior. I stepped in to stop him, i grabbed a stick he was using as a weapon, and then i got a talking to by one of the permanent teachers that grabbing the stick was a bad idea, that this child's parents would have me fired if they found out. Absolute insanity.
In regards to standardized tests, I dislike the current way they work. I get the need for a measuring stick to determine how intelligent someone is, but I don't think they handle what someone is good at. Personally, I always struggled with the English tests, but that didn't show what I was good at. I was also really bad about second guessing myself on multiple choice questions. I feel like testing someone's strengths over time would be more important, even if that's a trade instead of an academic subject. At the very least, teachers shouldn't be judged on the output of students in a general sense. Strengths could be found through grades or standardized tests, but improvements of educational development would probably show through the student's improvements on their strengths, not from their general ability. I remember so many teachers getting nervous around standardized testing season and encouraging students a little more or giving a basic summary during that time to make sure the students did well. Some people did great because they were naturally talented with academics. Some people did great because they thought it would go on their "permanent record." Other students tried to prepare as best as they could, but did poorly because the subjects covered by standardized tests aren't their strengths. In that last case of my generalization, there were students that just didn't care because they were already sick of the subjects. At the end of the day, standardized testing isn't a perfect method. I'm not suggesting my concept of testing based on strengths is the way either, but I figured I'd comment since you are both teachers and have a personal perspective on the topic.
I agree with you basically 100% lol. I think most tests suck, but as long as they are standards-based, they are not completely useless.
YOU are the man, Mr. Beat. Poor people support the rich. They buy rich people's crap, love it.
On KB points on how movements haven’t caused change, I think it’s mainly because these movements lack a good leader to guide things and also that sometimes, things don’t change right away. Right now im taking a class on the voting rights act and to me it’s kind of crazy how long it took for black people to get that right. There was ton of good change after the civil war, then after awhile they lost all those rights, then it took ~60 years of fighting just to get that right back. My teacher also mentioned how the death of Booker T Washington was a big deal for the movement because he accepted segregation but once he died, it allowed for people who weren’t supportive of this to take over and lead way(which again, empathizes how leaders of the movements can affect things).
Another interesting thing I have taken from the class was how strategic MLK really was. For example, he chose the location of Selma on purpose because he thought it would perfectly illustrate his issue of blacks needing the right to vote. When I think of stuff like Black Lives Matter, it was just a lot of people protesting something obviously bad, but there was no really big figure explaining what needs to change. Of course I have my own ideas on what to change but does everyone protesting it also agree with me, probably not.
Granted, I will say that things are definitely a lot harder now a days compared to before. For example, my teacher mentions how during the MLK days, there was only like 3 stations so when the news reported something, everyone saw it. Now a days, there is just too much information out there and we all aren’t watching the same thing. Like yeah, a bunch of the main stream media could be reporting on one issue, but then what if my neighbor is watching some extreme RUclipsr to get his news because he doesn’t trust the mainstream media. Now we both live in two extremely different worlds and it takes a lot more work to get us to agree then it probably would have in the past
English and social studies teacher here. I absolutely understand the response, but it is awful that neither of you would touch education again. We cannot attract and retain educators, and I often consider leaving the profession myself but I also worry, "Who, then, will do it?"
And while I love KB, he may be making a grave mistake "realizing that English class is merely book report class." There are poor social studies teachers and poor English teachers and constructing arguments, defending against flawed arguments - both malicious and foolish. And the interplay between art and society are very much in the baliwick of the English class. Don't push for supremecy, but interplay and interrconnection, please.
And, dovetailing with this, you reference The Handmaid's Tale later which is art that allows us to consider possibilities and use it as a metaphor and cultural touchstone. Please, please don't see or describe education as an either or situation.
Christian Right and income/populism concerns, but what about climate change?
Thanks KB for calling out the Forward Party.
Thanks for calling out Maza, especially, as I suspect he may be a bit further down the ideological line from you both.
Like KB, losing my parents in my early twenties over long ordeals with the healthcare industry made me change my views on empathy, and how the social contract just doesn't work for all.
To be fair to hbomberguy, he has made plenty of overtly political content before, and I'm sure that only ever making one type of content can lead to burnout if the creator doesn't want to limit their channel in that way.
Also, there are bits and pieces of it even in his other videos, and entertaining off-topic videos can lead people to check out his other work.
A bit of feedback here regarding the Oregon Trail video here- admittedly I haven’t even watched that yet, but I don’t think the reason that people have been hesitant to click on it is because it covers westward expansion, which is somewhat different from your usual history content. I would definitely click on a Mr. Beat video about westward expansion, I don’t think most of your audience really views you as just the president guy. The thing for me, was just based on the title and thumbnail alone, it didn’t really even seem like it was about westward expansion. Like it didn’t really come across as a history video as much as it did a travel vlog/ Tesla promo or something like that. And maybe I’m wrong, and it actually is packed full of history content, but that isn’t what it comes across of at first glance, from the title and thumbnail. I think that’s more the issue, not that it goes outside your usual scope of history content.
Ok, thank you for the feedback. But uh, yeah, I PACKED it full of history.
@@iammrbeat yea, I don’t doubt that haha. It just doesn’t give off that vibe at first glance, I think that’s why a lot of people ended up passing it over
@@Dreadlock1227 I agree with this as well. Totally missed a gem because I thought it was just a scenic tour kind of video. I'm absolutely checking it out after this one now that I know better.
I appreciate that this is two months old now, but for question 5. Amy Shira Teitel of Vintage Space (early cold war history about space exploration) is pretty neat. There are plenty of female science communicators as well.
But I appreciate that the fact that I can only think of one history one still answers your point.
Would love to see y'all delving more into Question 7 in future videos. As a 31 y/o male I'm seeing more and more of my younger friends having kids while I'm an adamant antinatalist. Some historical context on birth rates, immigration, etc could be fascinating.
There's a shit ton of people who don't have a home AND work!! I only recently learned this and am so fucking disappointed in how governments are dealing with the ridiculous rent prices.
Love you both.
Mr. Beat - I have since watched the Oregon trail video and like it. The reason I didn’t click at first is the thumbnail kinda made it seem like a family video about EVs rather than a history video. I’m not saying I’m right about that but that was my reasoning for being less click-happy with it. That’s just some feedback and I’m sorry a video you loved didn’t do well.
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@2:40:30 just wanted to add that h3h3 has since also gotten off that bandwagon and, for a long time now, also been very vocal about how they do, and ppl can, acknowledge that they have been wrong/lacking empathy in the past and continue personal growth moving forward with understanding and supporting others personal experiences.
@iammrbeat and @knowingbetter I’m SO glad KB mentioned the lack of female history educators on YT!!! I watch so many of you “guys”-plus a plethora of Political and Religious History channels like: Atun-Shei Films, Useful Charts, Joe Scott, Legal Eagle, Digital Hammurabi, etc. I’m a even a Nebula subscriber! I comment every day that y’all need a female’s perspective on all your channels. I’m at Gen-Xer who has always had an unquenchable thirst for knowledge especially history and language, which is why I have a degree in English and Linguistics …. (KB, I have a bone to pick about thinking English class is a never ending book report class- that’s just crappy English teachers😂!)
If a woman would want to start a history RUclips channel, what advice would you give?
Ayyyy mr. Beat is also an urbanist and watches NJB what a g