To further the discussion on this kit I have a great hack or add on, costs a couple dollars. If you use a different size pot or small frying pan it covers the opening and compresses the flame. So I bought the Toaks Titanium wood stove cross bars. The notches in them just happen to be in the right place and straddle the rim of the red housing perfectly. Now you have a cross support that elevates the bottom of the pot and allows flames to spread out across the bottom. As a bonus they fit inside the kit with Trangia and lighter all together.
FYI: the boiling point of water (typically listed as 212'F / 100'C) is affected by several factors: Air pressure tends to have the greatest influence on boiling temperature. The air pressure at sea level is nominally 14.7 psia, however local weather conditions can vary the local air pressure from less than 14 psia to over 15 psia. Barometric pressure (as reported in a weather forecast) is exactly this (although it's typically reported in inches of Mercury in the United States). In addition to local weather conditions, altitude greatly affects air pressure; the greater your altitude (above sea level), the lower the air pressure. The boiling point of water is less than 200'F in Denver, CO (and less than 180'F at the top of Pikes Peak, CO). In addition to air pressure, the purity of the water will influence the boiling point. Things in the water (other than H2O - e.g. dissolved minerals, etc.) will affect the boiling point. 212'F/100'C is the boiling point of pure H2O at 14.7 psia Bottom line, using a thermometer set to 212'F my not be the most accurate way to measure boiling time. Something as simple as a pending storm (e.g. a "low pressure system is moving into the area" as reported in the local weather forecast) will drop the boiling point of water.
Never thought I’d like an alcohol stove, but this was a game changer... Even better, the GSI Infinity Mug nests perfectly inside. This is my go to for a day hike with my wife & son. I am able to get 3x 2cup boils out of a filled Trangia- perfect for “Ramen Bombs” and don’t need to carry extra fuel. 😊
wolfeman781992 Alternatively, stuff a few Nescafé 3 in 1 packets for the ultimate in convenience 😊 www.amazon.com/dp/B007IK8QRY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_MxzuFbPWWPQPS
Looks like Sterno, or their parent company, has FINALLY dragged themselves into the 21st century regarding stoves and cooking systems. I am glad to see it happen. Like always, it's another great video Ernie. Thanks for sharing it with us.
I have made one myself made out of used empty (10cm diameter) food can, I made holes around the top and bottom wall for air circulation and use homemade buddy burner as a heating source.
Great review and recommendation, I bought one for my Trangia. This is the most efficient system for an alcohol stove for boiling water, the pot with the fins has a lot to do with it. In -1 Celsius it boiled a full 500 mls of water in just over 5 mins, twice as fast as my previous set up.
Great Video ! Good Start at Seventy (70) Videos on stoves... I have a few stoves, but seventy (70) stoves is way more than I hope I will ever need ! A wood stove will use half the fuel/wood than an open camp fire ! So thank you for helping to save the forest ! My main problem of reaching your twenty dollar ($20.00 USD/U$D) level for a stove is one word - "Titanium" ! tjl
As a fellow Louisianian and outdoors stove freak it is nice to find another one of me. Prior to a residential fire in 2017 I had over 40 stoves for outdoor/camping use. I have replaced some of them and my new equipment selection is much smaller than the original, but I still have the capability to go literally anywhere in any season and effectively cook. I wish we could meet (I live in Baton Rouge) so that I could show you my various systems. My ultralightweight is my favorite with my Arctic-Extreme Cold Weather my second. Good luck with your channel and I hope we meet on the trail.
Just got my Sterno and use it with a fancy feast burner and it's a monster! The only down side is the crazy heavy lid, the floppy support legs (I replaced the rivets with ss screws and lock nuts) and the ml measurements on the pot are crazy wrong! Not a deal breaker though. Super fast boiling rig with virtually no bloom delay.
I’ve been watching your channel for while, enjoying the learning and your approach. I bought one of these along with a Redcamp Alcohol Stove and used it on a backcountry ski 3 days ago. I boiled a full 16oz of water in 6 minutes, at 5800ft elevation, minus 12 deg Celsius ( 10 deg F). In a breezy, somewhat sheltered location in a valley bottom. I was pleasantly surprised and thoroughly enjoyed my warm drink while enjoying spectacular views in the Canadian Rockies. I appreciate the videos and the information shared, that helped encourage me to try and alcohol stove. 👍
Pretty cool; we tried ours today on a day hike with a vargo alcohol stove and had a boil of two (2) cups water in under five (5) minutes. Truly amazing enhancement for these spirit stoves. Thanks for the tip.
Like you I like stoves and cook kits. I bought one because it is a very nice design. The lid is a little overkill. I’ve used it on a couple of quick overnighters just to make coffee in the morning. I’ve never tried it with alcohol, I’ll give it a try.
In the Evernew Titanium v Trangia video, the Evernew boiled in 10:21. In the Evernew Titanium v Chinese clone video, the Evernew boiled in 8:24. That's a difference that could be due to environmental factors, and not significant. But, using this Sterno Inferno system, the same stove boiled in 4:52! That's between 42% and 53% quicker! I'd say this is well worth the $23 cost.
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@Braden Eliseo Thanks for your reply. I got to the site thru google and I'm trying it out now. Seems to take a while so I will reply here later with my results.
I need to see if the windscreen will fit inside my Toaks 900 ml pot. $25 for a solid potstand/ windscreen is not a bad price at all. Depending on how long a sterno can will last 12 minutes is not very long. Looking at cost versus total burn time sterno may be cheaper and as efficient as alchohol by the numbers. GREAT VIDEO!!
I ordered it Saturday and received it 2 days later :) Now listed at $24.95 on Ebay, but appears to be totally worth it. I intentionally used a small can of tomato paste and purchased a can of Fancy Feast even though I don't have pets! Had to throw the cat food in the trash because I don't know anyone who can use it. ha! I plan to review your homemade cat can video to find the best height of the tomato paste can. Can't wait to give it a try. I'm digging this sterno inferno that you are showcasing. Thanks for your stove addiction. Has saved me a lot of money just waiting for the best ones to be shared on your youtube channel.
Hey Ernie, your a kindred spirit son. I bought one for an emergency kit. Funny thing. I use my Jetboil mini mo pot w/ different alcohol stoves and it rocks. Waiting for some pot manufacturers to get on board w/ that design. Happy Father’s Day by the way
I just watched this and saw that this kit has been discontinued. I have over 25 alcohol stoves so I started watching eBay. I found a new in box today for $50. I don’t know how I missed this two years ago but I did. Cost me a lot more but I can’t wait to play with it.
Your interesting demonstration inspired me to experiment with my msr wind burner pot (the one with the cozy sleeve) over a toaks siphon alcohol stove inside my nano. Sitting on the nano’s floor with the legs turned inside it boiled 2 cups of water in just over 5 minutes. The Toaks with a little more head space focused the flame directly at the pots bottom instead of wrapping flames around the pot! That was cool!
Scored one new with 6 cans of Sterno green for like $30 new on Ebay a year or two ago. Whole plan was to play around with alcohol in it, but never got around to using it at all yet. Cool to see this test
Well I just got my Sterno Inferno from Amazon and, tested it out using my Fancee Feast alcohol stove. One ounce of fuel from the Yellow bottle from HEET and 16 ounces of water with the provided cup that came with the Sterno Inferno. The tradewinds here in Hawaii were running quite brisk but water boiled at approximately 4 minutes and 40 seconds. Thanks for your time and energy in presenting the Sterno Inferno so I'll be adding it to my collection of other stove products that use Coleman, HEET and wood for fuel sources. Stoked!
I've mine since Nov. 19. The instructions says quite clearly "no methanol". For gods sake I'm not using this poisonus stuff, I'm using ethanol! Hehe. Be aware with some burners you'll force a thermal runaway! The Vargo Titan does it. The Out-D and the Fancy Feast Stove are much to powerful and the flames will shoot out of the grills of the pot's bottom. The Trangia is just right. You can use the stove with a Trangia also with the gray bottom part, which gives more stability. And the Sterno chocker disk you showed, fits into the gray part and locks there if you fold the legs back together.
Love the Sterno Cook kit, not so much with the Sterno fuel. Already had the Fancy Feast "cat can" alcohol stove that I use with my Solo Stove Lite. Purchased another Fancy Feast alcohol stove to use with the Sterno Cook kit. With either cook systems along with the "cat can stove" I'm a happy camper with both cooking options. With the Solo Stove, I also have the option of using wood pieces / twigs to cook food or boil water. Appreciate your time and energy that you take for posting your videos ~
Just bought one off Amazon. $31 and 30 to $32 off other sights. Still cheap! Plan to use with my cat can and Batchstovez Gram Weenie alcohol stoves as well as BRS 300T with a DIY Aluminum support ring (just pot not the stand/windscreen - maybe a DYI one). Will be interesting to see how the pot does vs my usual TOAKS 650ml. I see less equaling less weight to offset extra weight of pot and screen (if used).
Finally listening to me aye Earnie! LOL I even use the Sterno fuel when I cook - carefully - inside a car. The heat exchanger pots are awesome. I saw a new set of pots online that had a steamer basket!
Always enjoy the reviews, felt the need to comment on this one since good ole Hiram and others caught the potential of runaway alchy stoves, dangerous situation. Plus you didn't comment it's in manual warning list of do not do. Also not anodized, not on my box. But for the wimpy short alchy stoves perhaps not dangerous, indeed good shield and fins.
I have had one of these for a couple of years now, and mine and the other ones that I have seen are indeed anodized, they just were a lighter color. If you are sure your pot isn't, I would look in to exchanging it. I even verified the anodized status with the company that actually designed it, machineartmoto.
I've used a Trangia spirit burner for maybe 20 years....in all conditions both fair and foul.....never once had a "runaway" event. In the one and only video I've seen on the matter the flame goes yellow, then you hear sizzling, then it pops. Makes me strongly suspect something other than alcohol made it into the fuel cup.
This works great with the BSR 2000 if you slightly bend the pot sopports so they fit between the fins. Poor man's Jetboil. Boils 2 cups in just over 2 minutes. Paired with a Walmart folding silicone cup to replace the heavy lid, you get a lid coffee cup/bowl combo. Fast, cheap, light. Works for me, I like it. Thanks for the video, have a great day!
All jolly interesting but I constantly wonder why the fascination with “how fast” vs ability to cook or fuel efficiency etc Not everyone only eats from a bag I’m sure this would help the latter but I doubt much delicacy is possible with that pot set up.
I’ve wondered about this kit. Thanks for doing a video! Did you say it is hard-anodized? I did see a picture one time on a forum of one on those pots where a canister stove melted the heat exchanger on a third or fourth attempt. Just wondering if it’s made for lower temp fuel systems. 🤷🏻♂️
That was a really interesting test using a alcohol burner with this kit. I have a jet boil system that has those heat dispersant vanes for use with its iso-butane/propane stove. If only I could get that bottom adapter this sterno stove uses it would a great addition to my trangia alcohol stove systems. Unfortunately the manufacturer has stop making the sterno inferno, and not available on Amazon or eBay!
I would love to see a comparison of this with versus a Stanley pot with windscreen, all on alcohol to see if the heat dispersion foils make a difference.
Great idea - thanks for sharing Ernie! Any chance you could suggest some alternatives for us across the pond in the UK? Can't seem to get hold of that particular gas stove heat exchanger sadly 😔
Get thee behind me...Brother, that's a really neat idea. My cook set up is lighter but I'm willing to take a stab at this. If nothing else it will be a cool give away for subscribers if it doesn't make the cut for the thru-hike kit. Thanks for putting this out there.
Nice design . Looks like I could do this with a coffee can with holes in it on the sides , but wouldn't be as nice as this set up. I like it. The only begative is it's size. Otherwise an awesome set up.
Okay, so this just popped up in my feed. Didn’t realize this was 3 years old. Looked up but couldn’t find this. It’s 2023. Is there anything available now that compares to this?
Nice video. I have a different condition. I'm on a sail boat. You can't buy a new alcohol stove. What would you do if you wanted to make a two burner stove from this? Is rock wool needed to keep fuel from splashing out? I'm not sure how I would contain the burners. Thank you
About storing alcohol in the triangia or other alcohol stoves with a screw on lid. I have a lighter that uses regular lighter fluid. I have had it filled up and stored for 6 months and it still lights and burns like I just filled it yesterday. So, storing alcohol in the stove might not be that bad.
I use it all the time with a little mini grate I found and bent the stand flat... I use a mini egg frypan, a larger pot, Sierra mug, and the original pot of course. I think a GSI stainless bowl/plate would work well too
212 F boil temp is at sea level. As you go above that, and it doesn't take much, the boil temp increases. One of the things I do when I move to a new location is to boil a quart of water. No need to keep tabs on it It. Just put a Min/Max thermometer in the pot and check the Max reading anytime you want after the stove goes out. Water just can't get any hotter than boiling point no matter how long it boils, unless it is in a pressure vessel like a pressure cooker. They have rules about that in thermodynamics. BTW, there isn't much point in going past first bubbles in the bottom of the pot. The food doesn't care if the water is 212 F or 200 F. It will reconstitute just fine at either temp. going past first bubble just wastes fuel and time as you wait for it to cool down enough to eat it. BTY, food doesn't care what the temp of the water is. It will reconstitute with room temperature water just fine. The only problems are it will take a lot longer and hot food tastes better than cool food.
thanks for the video. I was curious out that system. Would you do another experiment for me. The pots a bit small, and only that kind of pot allows the stove to exhaust at the top. But, can you test to see if it works to invert the windscreen, and let it use just the snuffer slot for air intake and the vents intended to intake as exhaust vents instead, so that you can put a larger pot on top of it? I'm specifically interested to know if the Kojin stove would work with it that way. (I assume the Kojin will need a bit of a riser to be a bit closer to the bottom of the pot though, no? Look forward to your reply. Thanks for your videos. : ) (by the way, I do realized that one of the best things about the system is the pot because of its baffles on the bottom of it that gives it the faster more efficient burn times, but still want to know if the windscreen will work inverted with a larger pot just sitting on top of it)
I would think you could just raise the inverted windscreen on 3 sticks (or rocks) to let air in the bottom. Either that, or use a couple of tent pegs over the top of the windscreen/base right-side up.
@@xenaguy01 Thanks for the ideas. I suppose those are a couple of possible fixes, and I trust it would function that way. But, I won'der how well it would perform without, and with your ideas, now also wondering how it would perform with thise tweaks, if it doesn't perfom well just inverted with no tweeks. I'm hoping someone who already has the stove might test it and share the results. : )
Ernie, During your tests, do you boil your water with the lid on, or off? I can't see the lid during testing in this video, but (as you know) the water will boil a lot faster with the lid on.
To further the discussion on this kit I have a great hack or add on, costs a couple dollars. If you use a different size pot or small frying pan it covers the opening and compresses the flame. So I bought the Toaks Titanium wood stove cross bars. The notches in them just happen to be in the right place and straddle the rim of the red housing perfectly. Now you have a cross support that elevates the bottom of the pot and allows flames to spread out across the bottom. As a bonus they fit inside the kit with Trangia and lighter all together.
FYI: the boiling point of water (typically listed as 212'F / 100'C) is affected by several factors:
Air pressure tends to have the greatest influence on boiling temperature. The air pressure at sea level is nominally 14.7 psia, however local weather conditions can vary the local air pressure from less than 14 psia to over 15 psia. Barometric pressure (as reported in a weather forecast) is exactly this (although it's typically reported in inches of Mercury in the United States). In addition to local weather conditions, altitude greatly affects air pressure; the greater your altitude (above sea level), the lower the air pressure. The boiling point of water is less than 200'F in Denver, CO (and less than 180'F at the top of Pikes Peak, CO). In addition to air pressure, the purity of the water will influence the boiling point. Things in the water (other than H2O - e.g. dissolved minerals, etc.) will affect the boiling point. 212'F/100'C is the boiling point of pure H2O at 14.7 psia
Bottom line, using a thermometer set to 212'F my not be the most accurate way to measure boiling time. Something as simple as a pending storm (e.g. a "low pressure system is moving into the area" as reported in the local weather forecast) will drop the boiling point of water.
Your right......
Never thought I’d like an alcohol stove, but this was a game changer... Even better, the GSI Infinity Mug nests perfectly inside.
This is my go to for a day hike with my wife & son.
I am able to get 3x 2cup boils out of a filled Trangia- perfect for “Ramen Bombs” and don’t need to carry extra fuel. 😊
Throw 2 small pill bottles for sugar creamer & coffee in and a gsi ultralight drip and you have coffee in a can
wolfeman781992 Alternatively, stuff a few Nescafé 3 in 1 packets for the ultimate in convenience 😊
www.amazon.com/dp/B007IK8QRY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_MxzuFbPWWPQPS
Looks like Sterno, or their parent company, has FINALLY dragged themselves into the 21st century regarding stoves and cooking systems. I am glad to see it happen. Like always, it's another great video Ernie. Thanks for sharing it with us.
I have made one myself made out of used empty (10cm diameter) food can, I made holes around the top and bottom wall for air circulation and use homemade buddy burner as a heating source.
Great review and recommendation, I bought one for my Trangia. This is the most efficient system for an alcohol stove for boiling water, the pot with the fins has a lot to do with it. In -1 Celsius it boiled a full 500 mls of water in just over 5 mins, twice as fast as my previous set up.
Great Video ! Good Start at Seventy (70) Videos on stoves... I have a few stoves, but seventy (70) stoves is way more than I hope I will ever need ! A wood stove will use half the fuel/wood than an open camp fire ! So thank you for helping to save the forest ! My main problem of reaching your twenty dollar ($20.00 USD/U$D) level for a stove is one word - "Titanium" ! tjl
Awesome,think thats the fastest boil time ive ever seen. Thanks for sharing.😊😊😊
As a fellow Louisianian and outdoors stove freak it is nice to find another one of me. Prior to a residential fire in 2017 I had over 40 stoves for outdoor/camping use. I have replaced some of them and my new equipment selection is much smaller than the original, but I still have the capability to go literally anywhere in any season and effectively cook. I wish we could meet (I live in Baton Rouge) so that I could show you my various systems. My ultralightweight is my favorite with my Arctic-Extreme Cold Weather my second. Good luck with your channel and I hope we meet on the trail.
Why are you encouraging me to buy more stove accessories 😭 😬
My thought exactly.
Just got my Sterno and use it with a fancy feast burner and it's a monster! The only down side is the crazy heavy lid, the floppy support legs (I replaced the rivets with ss screws and lock nuts) and the ml measurements on the pot are crazy wrong! Not a deal breaker though. Super fast boiling rig with virtually no bloom delay.
Great to have another of your brisk, specific, and thoughtful reviews. Keep 'em coming.
Yep, bought one of these with the exact same thought. Works great.
I'd use it car camping - why not? For the day going fishing, perfect
I’ve been watching your channel for while, enjoying the learning and your approach. I bought one of these along with a Redcamp Alcohol Stove and used it on a backcountry ski 3 days ago. I boiled a full 16oz of water in 6 minutes, at 5800ft elevation, minus 12 deg Celsius ( 10 deg F). In a breezy, somewhat sheltered location in a valley bottom. I was pleasantly surprised and thoroughly enjoyed my warm drink while enjoying spectacular views in the Canadian Rockies. I appreciate the videos and the information shared, that helped encourage me to try and alcohol stove. 👍
I smashed a like for you, because you asked so nicely. Useful info in here too
Pretty cool; we tried ours today on a day hike with a vargo alcohol stove and had a boil of two (2) cups water in under five (5) minutes. Truly amazing enhancement for these spirit stoves. Thanks for the tip.
Best alcohol stove vid ever made thanks!
Like you I like stoves and cook kits. I bought one because it is a very nice design. The lid is a little overkill.
I’ve used it on a couple of quick overnighters just to make coffee in the morning.
I’ve never tried it with alcohol, I’ll give it a try.
Sand down the 4 tabs on the lid just a little and it'll come off easier... I have one of these for 2 years now and works Great....
In the Evernew Titanium v Trangia video, the Evernew boiled in 10:21. In the Evernew Titanium v Chinese clone video, the Evernew boiled in 8:24. That's a difference that could be due to environmental factors, and not significant. But, using this Sterno Inferno system, the same stove boiled in 4:52! That's between 42% and 53% quicker!
I'd say this is well worth the $23 cost.
I can watch your videos many times, enjoy them each time, but I can only click "Like" once. 😀
3 minutes in and I went online and bought. Thank you for this and ALL your fantastic videos!
😂 just when I thought I was done buying alcohol stove cook systems!
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@Braden Eliseo Thanks for your reply. I got to the site thru google and I'm trying it out now.
Seems to take a while so I will reply here later with my results.
@Braden Eliseo it worked and I now got access to my account again. I'm so happy!
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I need to see if the windscreen will fit inside my Toaks 900 ml pot. $25 for a solid potstand/ windscreen is not a bad price at all. Depending on how long a sterno can will last 12 minutes is not very long. Looking at cost versus total burn time sterno may be cheaper and as efficient as alchohol by the numbers. GREAT VIDEO!!
I ordered it Saturday and received it 2 days later :) Now listed at $24.95 on Ebay, but appears to be totally worth it. I intentionally used a small can of tomato paste and purchased a can of Fancy Feast even though I don't have pets! Had to throw the cat food in the trash because I don't know anyone who can use it. ha! I plan to review your homemade cat can video to find the best height of the tomato paste can. Can't wait to give it a try. I'm digging this sterno inferno that you are showcasing. Thanks for your stove addiction. Has saved me a lot of money just waiting for the best ones to be shared on your youtube channel.
Hey Ernie, your a kindred spirit son. I bought one for an emergency kit. Funny thing. I use my Jetboil mini mo pot w/ different alcohol stoves and it rocks. Waiting for some pot manufacturers to get on board w/ that design. Happy Father’s Day by the way
Impressed with the boil time. To large for my normal usseage. Keep the great videos coming! Thanks
I just watched this and saw that this kit has been discontinued. I have over 25 alcohol stoves so I started watching eBay. I found a new in box today for $50. I don’t know how I missed this two years ago but I did. Cost me a lot more but I can’t wait to play with it.
Your interesting demonstration inspired me to experiment with my msr wind burner pot (the one with the cozy sleeve) over a toaks siphon alcohol stove inside my nano. Sitting on the nano’s floor with the legs turned inside it boiled 2 cups of water in just over 5 minutes. The Toaks with a little more head space focused the flame directly at the pots bottom instead of wrapping flames around the pot! That was cool!
Scored one new with 6 cans of Sterno green for like $30 new on Ebay a year or two ago. Whole plan was to play around with alcohol in it, but never got around to using it at all yet. Cool to see this test
I just ordered the Sterno Inferno for the same reason then I saw your video glad to do it works Thanks
Dr Ernie, genius idea!
Well I just got my Sterno Inferno from Amazon and, tested it out using my Fancee Feast alcohol stove. One ounce of fuel from the Yellow bottle from HEET and 16 ounces of water with the provided cup that came with the Sterno Inferno. The tradewinds here in Hawaii were running quite brisk but water boiled at approximately 4 minutes and 40 seconds. Thanks for your time and energy in presenting the Sterno Inferno so I'll be adding it to my collection of other stove products that use Coleman, HEET and wood for fuel sources. Stoked!
Pretty sweet. Definitely something to consider for my cat can stove. Thanks!
Have this stove n use just a good ole fancy feast stove.. superb
I've mine since Nov. 19. The instructions says quite clearly "no methanol". For gods sake I'm not using this poisonus stuff, I'm using ethanol! Hehe.
Be aware with some burners you'll force a thermal runaway! The Vargo Titan does it. The Out-D and the Fancy Feast Stove are much to powerful and the flames will shoot out of the grills of the pot's bottom. The Trangia is just right. You can use the stove with a Trangia also with the gray bottom part, which gives more stability. And the Sterno chocker disk you showed, fits into the gray part and locks there if you fold the legs back together.
Love the Sterno Cook kit, not so much with the Sterno fuel. Already had the Fancy Feast "cat can" alcohol stove that I use with my Solo Stove Lite. Purchased another Fancy Feast alcohol stove to use with the Sterno Cook kit. With either cook systems along with the "cat can stove" I'm a happy camper with both cooking options. With the Solo Stove, I also have the option of using wood pieces / twigs to cook food or boil water. Appreciate your time and energy that you take for posting your videos ~
wow...money well spent for sure - great find!
I think this gives me hope for buying a trangia style stove after all
Just bought one off Amazon. $31 and 30 to $32 off other sights. Still cheap! Plan to use with my cat can and Batchstovez Gram Weenie alcohol stoves as well as BRS 300T with a DIY Aluminum support ring (just pot not the stand/windscreen - maybe a DYI one). Will be interesting to see how the pot does vs my usual TOAKS 650ml. I see less equaling less weight to offset extra weight of pot and screen (if used).
Need more vids like this for the fire box lol
Finally listening to me aye Earnie! LOL
I even use the Sterno fuel when I cook - carefully - inside a car.
The heat exchanger pots are awesome. I saw a new set of pots online that had a steamer basket!
Always enjoy the reviews, felt the need to comment on this one since good ole Hiram and others caught the potential of runaway alchy stoves, dangerous situation.
Plus you didn't comment it's in manual warning list of do not do.
Also not anodized, not on my box.
But for the wimpy short alchy stoves perhaps not dangerous, indeed good shield and fins.
I have had one of these for a couple of years now, and mine and the other ones that I have seen are indeed anodized, they just were a lighter color. If you are sure your pot isn't, I would look in to exchanging it. I even verified the anodized status with the company that actually designed it, machineartmoto.
I've used a Trangia spirit burner for maybe 20 years....in all conditions both fair and foul.....never once had a "runaway" event. In the one and only video I've seen on the matter the flame goes yellow, then you hear sizzling, then it pops. Makes me strongly suspect something other than alcohol made it into the fuel cup.
Love it! I want one! Great video. (As always)
Thanks, Doc!
Really cool system 👍 Thanks Ernie
I love this kind of stuff! Thanks much! Subscribed.
I liked it so I bought it thanks
Thats fast! I like the idea of using it as a screen and I am gonna use it myself. Thanks Doc
Good test, thanks for showing us.
$20 is well worth the cost of the mug with the heat exchanger and lid!
That looks to be a very neat little kit.
Awesome alcohol hack👍
This works great with the BSR 2000 if you slightly bend the pot sopports so they fit between the fins. Poor man's Jetboil. Boils 2 cups in just over 2 minutes. Paired with a Walmart folding silicone cup to replace the heavy lid, you get a lid coffee cup/bowl combo. Fast, cheap, light. Works for me, I like it. Thanks for the video, have a great day!
OVER LOOK CRAP DOC THATS A REALLY GREAT CATCH DOC. THANK YOU SOO MUCH. KEEP THEM COMING. HAVE A GREAT DAY.
All jolly interesting but I constantly wonder why the fascination with “how fast” vs ability to cook or fuel efficiency etc
Not everyone only eats from a bag
I’m sure this would help the latter but I doubt much delicacy is possible with that pot set up.
Good eye, Ernie. It looks like a decent lightweight option that also saves fuel (more weight).
I’ve wondered about this kit. Thanks for doing a video! Did you say it is hard-anodized? I did see a picture one time on a forum of one on those pots where a canister stove melted the heat exchanger on a third or fourth attempt. Just wondering if it’s made for lower temp fuel systems. 🤷🏻♂️
Yes 👍,you're correct. Its made to be used only with jelled alcohol, aka Sterno type fuel
Great stove great price !!!
Nice find!
That was a really interesting test using a alcohol burner with this kit. I have a jet boil system that has those heat dispersant vanes for use with its iso-butane/propane stove. If only I could get that bottom adapter this sterno stove uses it would a great addition to my trangia alcohol stove systems.
Unfortunately the manufacturer has stop making the sterno inferno, and not available on Amazon or eBay!
Very neat.
Thanks for the vlogs.
Take care, regards Colin.
Nice idea, thanks Earnie!
I would love to see a comparison of this with versus a Stanley pot with windscreen, all on alcohol to see if the heat dispersion foils make a difference.
since when is 23 dollars less than 20 dollars?
Link has it as $24.95!
$32.50 in Canada and $35 for 6 cans of Sterno....
It's the new math
Detroit
Since labor day
I think I’ll buy one just to use with my regular stove!
Outstanding.
Wish they were still available. _sigh_
Great idea - thanks for sharing Ernie! Any chance you could suggest some alternatives for us across the pond in the UK? Can't seem to get hold of that particular gas stove heat exchanger sadly 😔
Very cool compact kit
Get thee behind me...Brother, that's a really neat idea. My cook set up is lighter but I'm willing to take a stab at this. If nothing else it will be a cool give away for subscribers if it doesn't make the cut for the thru-hike kit. Thanks for putting this out there.
Nice design . Looks like I could do this with a coffee can with holes in it on the sides , but wouldn't be as nice as this set up. I like it. The only begative is it's size. Otherwise an awesome set up.
Great idea, thanks for sharing.
Okay, so this just popped up in my feed. Didn’t realize this was 3 years old. Looked up but couldn’t find this. It’s 2023. Is there anything available now that compares to this?
Nice video. I have a different condition. I'm on a sail boat. You can't buy a new alcohol stove. What would you do if you wanted to make a two burner stove from this? Is rock wool needed to keep fuel from splashing out? I'm not sure how I would contain the burners. Thank you
Those ridges at the bottom are not there to diffuse the flame, but to increase the surface area to absorb heat from the fire!
About storing alcohol in the triangia or other alcohol stoves with a screw on lid. I have a lighter that uses regular lighter fluid. I have had it filled up and stored for 6 months and it still lights and burns like I just filled it yesterday. So, storing alcohol in the stove might not be that bad.
I’m wondering how much the finned pot helped; can you try with the toaks? (I know you’ll probably have to create a cross bar/stand)
I would be interested in this comparison as well.
I use it all the time with a little mini grate I found and bent the stand flat... I use a mini egg frypan, a larger pot, Sierra mug, and the original pot of course. I think a GSI stainless bowl/plate would work well too
Wow I like this system , wonder how long the stereo can will last ,will be ordering one , I have the tomashoo, and a cat food can , perfect 🥰thanks
what about the Soot/ Russ when I run it with Spirit, maybe it will be difficult to clean the Pot underneath.
I lived off that Sterno stove for months before I got electric on my property.
Great job!
How about as a wood twig stove using a square piece of thick aluminum foil as a base?
It works but is very messy and cleaning up the heat exchanger is way hard
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Ok ok im buying one
Great video but I don't mind waiting 12 minutes for a cup of tea. Thank you 👍
thanks Ernie
That is pretty neat
I wonder if uou could use it for a small frying pan meal..
I wonder what that would do for a Pill Bottle Stove? I boiled 12 oz in 4:30, but that's shy of 2 cups.
I wonder if addition of a full height wind screen would decrease boil time further. I would be interested to see the performance in wind (with a fan)
Wow!...
212 F boil temp is at sea level. As you go above that, and it doesn't take much, the boil temp increases. One of the things I do when I move to a new location is to boil a quart of water. No need to keep tabs on it It. Just put a Min/Max thermometer in the pot and check the Max reading anytime you want after the stove goes out. Water just can't get any hotter than boiling point no matter how long it boils, unless it is in a pressure vessel like a pressure cooker. They have rules about that in thermodynamics. BTW, there isn't much point in going past first bubbles in the bottom of the pot. The food doesn't care if the water is 212 F or 200 F. It will reconstitute just fine at either temp. going past first bubble just wastes fuel and time as you wait for it to cool down enough to eat it. BTY, food doesn't care what the temp of the water is. It will reconstitute with room temperature water just fine. The only problems are it will take a lot longer and hot food tastes better than cool food.
Absolutely. I’m in Louisiana, as sea level as it gets :)
Nah...boil temperature decreases with altitude, not increases!!!!!
I've wanted one since I first saw them, but they sold out everywhere they were listed, so now more than ever they are impossible to find
Now I like that
It is my understanding that Sterno discontinued producing the "Sterno" Inferno"?
I boiled 600ml of water in my sterno in 3mins 45secs with a trangia. Pity its been discontinued.
thanks for the video. I was curious out that system. Would you do another experiment for me. The pots a bit small, and only that kind of pot allows the stove to exhaust at the top. But, can you test to see if it works to invert the windscreen, and let it use just the snuffer slot for air intake and the vents intended to intake as exhaust vents instead, so that you can put a larger pot on top of it? I'm specifically interested to know if the Kojin stove would work with it that way. (I assume the Kojin will need a bit of a riser to be a bit closer to the bottom of the pot though, no? Look forward to your reply. Thanks for your videos. : ) (by the way, I do realized that one of the best things about the system is the pot because of its baffles on the bottom of it that gives it the faster more efficient burn times, but still want to know if the windscreen will work inverted with a larger pot just sitting on top of it)
I would think you could just raise the inverted windscreen on 3 sticks (or rocks) to let air in the bottom. Either that, or use a couple of tent pegs over the top of the windscreen/base right-side up.
@@xenaguy01 Thanks for the ideas. I suppose those are a couple of possible fixes, and I trust it would function that way. But, I won'der how well it would perform without, and with your ideas, now also wondering how it would perform with thise tweaks, if it doesn't perfom well just inverted with no tweeks. I'm hoping someone who already has the stove might test it and share the results. : )
I have this product and it works great for a safer way to cook using Sterno. Boils one cup in six minutes, even during 40 mph winds
Ernie, During your tests, do you boil your water with the lid on, or off? I can't see the lid during testing in this video, but (as you know) the water will boil a lot faster with the lid on.
Very nice!
I thought it was bad to cook on aluminum? Is boiling in it ok?