Note for any students who just got into Waterloo, you’ll probably be just fine for co-op. The market will probably get better once you’re here. And keep in mind, Waterloo is still going to end up employing around 65-70% of its first year students whilst other universities probably right now are only able to employ max like 30%.
@@robbys929 Im deciding between UofT ChemEng and UW ChemEng, do you have any advice on what to chose? Is the social life in UW that bad? And how's your CO-OP going?
Current 2B in physics co-op at UW, had an internship in winter, currently one month into my co-op, still no job. Got excellent rating at my previous co-op and they wanted me back but couldn’t afford any interns this fall. Applied to over 600 jobs, 2 round 4 interviews, 0 offers. They’re all opting for full time experienced employees, companies can’t afford to teach us. Have a meeting today where I might drop the co-op program
Hey Justin, I am currently a first-year student studying computer engineering at TMU. I'm reaching out to you because I'm hoping you might be able to recommend some companies in the Toronto area that are currently seeking interns. As a first-year engineering student, I am finding it challenging to secure a co-op placement due to my lack of industry experience. Unfortunately, at TMU, the first co-op term is the only opportunity we have to gain this type of experience, which puts me at a disadvantage compared to other students who may have a better co-op structure. Despite my lack of experience, I am actively applying to various co-op and internship positions. However, I have yet to receive any positive responses. I'm wondering if you could provide any advice on how I can improve my chances of landing my first co-op position.
Hey Arnab! I’d recommend just trying to cold email some startups within the GTA area like Mississauga, Oakville, and Vaughn. They have a decent bunch of startups that could potentially help you out if you directly email them on their job sites. It’s a tough situation rn but you can get through this.
What worked for me was going on github and finding people that had similar interests as me, and then getting the email from there. Its kind of important to be efficient with who you choose to email. Founder or high level engineer of startup is good because they can actually make hiring decisions. Also another thing is companies are a lot more likely to hire you for stuff you already know, so try to work around ur side projects. Lastly when u get an interview u can make a side project using the companies product which is pretty op cuz it shows ur dedicated and u can learn the stack fast.
Hi Justin!! I'm currently applying to uw, trying to figure out which programs to apply to, and whether it's worth applying to CE as a backup to CS (rather than applying SE because of how competitive it is). What do you think about Waterloo CE and doing a bunch of CS/SWE internships vs CS somewhere else (like McGill or UTSG) - I'm interested in pursuing software industry-wise but I'm not entirely opposed to learning hardware. Would love your thoughts :)
Honestly I think it’s worth it doing CE here just because of the co-op. It gives you a huge competitive advantage over other universities that don’t have co-op programs/as strong as a co-op program.
Hi Justin, I’ve applied to Waterloo CE undergrad program for this year. Being a student who completed his 12th grade from India under CBSE, I am highly curious to find out about the condition regarding final marks in the conditional offer letter for this course for me. No pressure, but if you know any Indian migrants in your course, please ask me the above question. If would be of great help to me. Thanks
I know for 101 students we just had to meet the 85% overall average conditional and that's about it. Not too sure for international students from India, sorry.
Hey Justin I’m a junior in high school and have been thinking of going to Waterloo for software engineering or CS or uoft for CS (all undergrad) what’s your opinion on which one is better?
I think Waterloo SE and CS are significatly better than UofT CS. I think even like UWaterloo engineering like Management Engineering, Computer Eng, Electrical eng, etc... are better just because of how good the co-op program is.
@@jlau04 oh thank you also based on ur opinion which degree would you say is better for the future since I’m not gonna graduate until around 2030 I’m thinking about which degree would be better in terms of getting employed and salaries software engineering or CS
hey justin, I got into waterloo last year also into ECE, but had to take a gap year cuz of some visa issues. I am at this point doing an internship and some projects but as the time for fall 2023 comes, i've been hearing terrible stats for coop employments so i have 2 questions: 1. I am pretty sure i should still be coming to waterloo, but still, is there something I should worry about or prepare for in advance? Like starting to look for connections in the firmware industry before even coming to college? 2.If the market is already this competitive and I would like to get a firmware job, what things would beef up my resume that i could do in these next 3-ish months? Because earlier i was thinking of leaving my resume to brush up on math and physics.
I had the same dilemma. I’d go with Waterloo CE just purely cause of the co op program. Plus you get similar CS fundamental courses and also u can take cs related courses in upper years anyways. UTSG CS is amazing and u can’t go wrong with that either, but I found that UW was more suited for me
@@jlau04 What would you say the likelihood chance is now in 2024, that I would actually land a co op job if I do go Waterloo. Assuming I’m a slightly above average Joe.
Is this just for the tech co-ops or is this more general for all the programs? I’m still in highschool but hoping to get into the urban planning co-op program at Waterloo and now I don’t know.
hi Justin, so im in a dilema rn, im deciding between UofT ChemEng and UW ChemEng, do you have any advice on what to chose? Is the social life in UW that bad? And how's your CO-OP going? ppl are daunting me and telling me how could u get an offer from UW and not accept it😭
Mississauga doesn’t have computer engineering but i would go to UTSC since they have somewhat of a functional co-op program compared to UTM (which has none). Hope this helps
@@jlau04 I’m sorry, I typed it wrong. I meant Utsc CS vs Utsg CE (Undergraduate program) Actually I just completed high school and I need to reply back to my offer letters before 1 May. So I need all the help I can get.
@@teghvirmundra3778 Oh shoot that's a tough decision. Honestly depends if you wanna do hardware or software. If it was UW CE vs UTSC CS that would be a different story since Waterloo >> UTSC CS. But for UTSC CS vs UTSG CE they're pretty much the same just one is good for hardware, other is good for software. CS -> Software CE -> Hardware Can't go wrong with either tho, CE will just be hard if u dont like hardware and plus UTSG doesnt have a well known co-op system while UTSC is a bit more well known
hey justin just a question if you are applying to uni as a computer scientist is it a must to take coop to get a good paying job, since the job is high in demand especially if you are an actual Canadian citizen when you consider immignrets trying to get jobs, or just studying and trying to create your own thing as a start up is well enough?
You can opt out of co-op and you can also do non-co-op CS I think if you apply through the laurier dual waterloo cs degree program. Wouldn't really recommend it though.
@@jlau04 can you take computer science coop and only do it for a year and than opt out of CS coop and continue that with only CS and still get your masters? Thank you for the reply
Hey Justin, im an international student, i got rejected for waterloo cs but they gave me a math regular program, would it be possible to switch to a math coop program? I do plan to transfer to cs hopefully working hard and getting good grades, would you recommend to stay with math degree potentially going to finance or go for a cs degree? Would a math degree still help me find jobs as software developer etc?
As someone in Waterloo CS who knows a lot of people in Math, it's definitely worth coming to Waterloo for math. I know lots of people in Math who have gotten CS coop. Just know you'll have to go out of your way to build your resume
@@maxwellhunt3732 thx! I have now confirmed my offer and will be going to Waterloo, hope my first year avg will be good, gotta give a try for the transfer :)
I just got accepted into comp Eng at Waterloo which was my top choice and this is making me rethink about going 😭. Do you think that it’s worth it for upcoming students?
Nah Waterloo is still the best thing you'll get when it comes to co-op and a CS/eng curriculum. Idk about Texas A&M but I have a friend at UT Austin and it seems good for CS. Idk about co-op there though
Hey, I recently got offers from both Waterloo and uoft for electrical engineering, and I’m wondering what you think I should do. My future goals is to pursue a masters and later work with chips or video cards. And with the whole coop situation at Waterloo as you mentioned, I’m really split between the 2 schools. Any thoughts?
Waterloo is better. Our ECE department is actually one of the most well-known and most well-funded ECE departments in Canada, and the co-op has a lot of research opportunities (even during the current recession). Many of my friends who chose Waterloo for ECE over UofT ECE do not regret, those who did the latter regret it completely. Keep in mind although Waterloo's co-op isn't amazing right now, in everywhere else it's almost non-existent in comparison.
@@jlau04 Hey, thanks for the response. Just want to clarify, would Waterloo still be the best path if I want to do my grad studies (masters) at Waterloo as well? Maybe I do undergrad at Waterloo than try to do a masters at uoft cause of the research? Any feedback is appreciated
@@justdotoast8833 Honestly I'm not quite too sure but I do have quite a few friends who are doing what you want to do. I don't think you could go wrong either way, but if you go to Uni, you might not actually end up liking doing research cause of the lack of pay and such, so going to Waterloo allows you to kinda test the waters. I'm also biased since im a waterloo computer engineering student so you could try asking some uoft ece students.
Hi Justin! I am a software engineer with over 2 year work ex. I'll be coming for my masters in MASTERS IN MANAGEMENT SCIENCES (Co-Op). Is it a STEM Program? Also will the Co Op program be better by then I'm targeting Jan 2026 intake so to push my work ex to over 3 years. Will the co op program and these issues be sorted by then?
I don’t know much about management sciences. If it’s management engineering then yes that’s stem but management sciences i’m not sure. I think it might be like industrial processing stuff? Co op should be fine
At the engineering company I worked at... an electrical engineering company, one of the new hires was... a computer engineering graduate. His best friend was an electrical engineer. His first job was with an electrical engineering firm. Weird hunh? They totally both were misemployed. The computer engineering graduate had a cando attitude. He’s President today. A computer engineer leading an electrical engineering company. Keep trying folks. People need smart hard working people.
Hey Justin, I know this might a bit annoying but I just got into Waterloo Comp Eng (international applicant = 🫰🫰), and also into McGill BA (probably will major in CS). My main reason to attend Waterloo atm is for the co-op experience and the ability to actually be industry ready by the time you graduate. But with the recession and all, do you think it'd be worth it? Considering that Waterloo is at least like 25k more than McGill per year and also that I'll probably have to work in Canada after I graduate due to H1B. Thanks a ton
CS and CE are completely different degrees. Depends on what you wanna do. Hardware -> CE. Software -> CS. I was split between UofT CS and UW CE and ended up with UofT CS. Whether I regret making that decision yet, I'm not sure. I do sometimes wish I went into CS though. It's all up to you honestly.
Note for any students who just got into Waterloo, you’ll probably be just fine for co-op. The market will probably get better once you’re here. And keep in mind, Waterloo is still going to end up employing around 65-70% of its first year students whilst other universities probably right now are only able to employ max like 30%.
Read this comment before getting in and sad to say it's worse now 😂
@@robbys929 Im deciding between UofT ChemEng and UW ChemEng, do you have any advice on what to chose? Is the social life in UW that bad? And how's your CO-OP going?
@@robbys929Yeah ggs 💀
Current 2B in physics co-op at UW, had an internship in winter, currently one month into my co-op, still no job. Got excellent rating at my previous co-op and they wanted me back but couldn’t afford any interns this fall. Applied to over 600 jobs, 2 round 4 interviews, 0 offers. They’re all opting for full time experienced employees, companies can’t afford to teach us. Have a meeting today where I might drop the co-op program
Yep the co op program recently has been super lackluster. It’s been such a let down for so many students using the co op system
hi justin,
i'm judy, i am a current waterloo student procrastinating word via youtube and i just wanted to say i love your video!
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Most real reply ever 😭😭😭
Sidewalk inspector co-op goes crazy
I LOVE ME SOME SIDEWALK INSPECTOR JOBS 😍😍😍😍
Boy scout camp leader anyone? There was a tree inspector at one point for brampton.
So true, very abnormal. The university admin should start thinking outside the box in terms of employers.
100%
who am i kidding this is waterloo got me rolling bruh !
Hey Justin,
I am currently a first-year student studying computer engineering at TMU. I'm reaching out to you because I'm hoping you might be able to recommend some companies in the Toronto area that are currently seeking interns. As a first-year engineering student, I am finding it challenging to secure a co-op placement due to my lack of industry experience. Unfortunately, at TMU, the first co-op term is the only opportunity we have to gain this type of experience, which puts me at a disadvantage compared to other students who may have a better co-op structure. Despite my lack of experience, I am actively applying to various co-op and internship positions. However, I have yet to receive any positive responses. I'm wondering if you could provide any advice on how I can improve my chances of landing my first co-op position.
Hey Arnab! I’d recommend just trying to cold email some startups within the GTA area like Mississauga, Oakville, and Vaughn. They have a decent bunch of startups that could potentially help you out if you directly email them on their job sites. It’s a tough situation rn but you can get through this.
What worked for me was going on github and finding people that had similar interests as me, and then getting the email from there. Its kind of important to be efficient with who you choose to email. Founder or high level engineer of startup is good because they can actually make hiring decisions. Also another thing is companies are a lot more likely to hire you for stuff you already know, so try to work around ur side projects. Lastly when u get an interview u can make a side project using the companies product which is pretty op cuz it shows ur dedicated and u can learn the stack fast.
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ottawa has the largest tech park in Canada, there are a lot of start ups and government jobs
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Hi Justin!! I'm currently applying to uw, trying to figure out which programs to apply to, and whether it's worth applying to CE as a backup to CS (rather than applying SE because of how competitive it is). What do you think about Waterloo CE and doing a bunch of CS/SWE internships vs CS somewhere else (like McGill or UTSG) - I'm interested in pursuing software industry-wise but I'm not entirely opposed to learning hardware. Would love your thoughts :)
Honestly I think it’s worth it doing CE here just because of the co-op. It gives you a huge competitive advantage over other universities that don’t have co-op programs/as strong as a co-op program.
Hi Justin,
I’ve applied to Waterloo CE undergrad program for this year. Being a student who completed his 12th grade from India under CBSE, I am highly curious to find out about the condition regarding final marks in the conditional offer letter for this course for me. No pressure, but if you know any Indian migrants in your course, please ask me the above question. If would be of great help to me.
Thanks
I know for 101 students we just had to meet the 85% overall average conditional and that's about it. Not too sure for international students from India, sorry.
Hey I just got in, it stated that you need an 81% overall, and above 61% in PCM and English
@@sudo1500 Really, my counselor told me admission decisions for engineering related programs are reveled after 10 April.
@@sudo1500 which program did you apply to?
@@teghvirmundra3778 i think i was in early round so i got it now, Ive applied to CompEng
Hey Justin I’m a junior in high school and have been thinking of going to Waterloo for software engineering or CS or uoft for CS (all undergrad) what’s your opinion on which one is better?
I think Waterloo SE and CS are significatly better than UofT CS. I think even like UWaterloo engineering like Management Engineering, Computer Eng, Electrical eng, etc... are better just because of how good the co-op program is.
@@jlau04 oh thank you also based on ur opinion which degree would you say is better for the future since I’m not gonna graduate until around 2030 I’m thinking about which degree would be better in terms of getting employed and salaries software engineering or CS
CS is probably better cause u get more flexibility in ur degree
hey justin, I got into waterloo last year also into ECE, but had to take a gap year cuz of some visa issues. I am at this point doing an internship and some projects but as the time for fall 2023 comes, i've been hearing terrible stats for coop employments so i have 2 questions:
1. I am pretty sure i should still be coming to waterloo, but still, is there something I should worry about or prepare for in advance? Like starting to look for connections in the firmware industry before even coming to college?
2.If the market is already this competitive and I would like to get a firmware job, what things would beef up my resume that i could do in these next 3-ish months? Because earlier i was thinking of leaving my resume to brush up on math and physics.
Side projects, hackathons, join student design teams once you get here, start job searching now.
Hey Justin new subscriber here. Please choose, UoT St. George CS OR Waterloo CE Co-Op. Which would u choose and why?
I had the same dilemma. I’d go with Waterloo CE just purely cause of the co op program. Plus you get similar CS fundamental courses and also u can take cs related courses in upper years anyways. UTSG CS is amazing and u can’t go wrong with that either, but I found that UW was more suited for me
@@jlau04 What would you say the likelihood chance is now in 2024, that I would actually land a co op job if I do go Waterloo. Assuming I’m a slightly above average Joe.
Probably a 70% chance. Pretty good chances compared to if u just went to utsg
@@jlau04 Looking back, do you have any regrets about your ultimate decision to attend Waterloo Co op as opposed to UTSG?
no
Is this just for the tech co-ops or is this more general for all the programs? I’m still in highschool but hoping to get into the urban planning co-op program at Waterloo and now I don’t know.
Is this even still a problem anymore??
This is mainly for tech but you can apply some of the tips for any general job
Oh I'm also hoping to get into Waterloo planning. I hope it's just an issue for tech co-ops.
oh yeah it definitely is just an issue for tech
Hey Justin does Waterloo care about high school gpa when you are applying as a transfer student
idk to be honest
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hi Justin, so im in a dilema rn, im deciding between UofT ChemEng and UW ChemEng, do you have any advice on what to chose? Is the social life in UW that bad? And how's your CO-OP going? ppl are daunting me and telling me how could u get an offer from UW and not accept it😭
tbh i’d take the UW offer. But i’m also not too familiar with the chemical engineering field so idk
@@jlau04 Would u pls be so kind to possibly connect me with any chemeng student from UW?
Sorry, I don’t really know anyone in chem eng at waterloo, but you could try looking on Linkedin! Best of luck!
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@@jlau04 yessir
hehehe just got into ce hehehehe hope it works out fine (im an international student btw)
Congrats man! Hopefully by the time you’re here it’ll all be better!!
@@jlau04 thanks man I look forward to seeing you , great content btw
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Justin, your opinion,
UofT Scarborough CS vs UofT Mississauga CE
(Undergraduate program)
Which one is better?
Mississauga doesn’t have computer engineering but i would go to UTSC since they have somewhat of a functional co-op program compared to UTM (which has none). Hope this helps
@@jlau04 I’m sorry, I typed it wrong.
I meant Utsc CS vs Utsg CE
(Undergraduate program)
Actually I just completed high school and I need to reply back to my offer letters before 1 May. So I need all the help I can get.
@@teghvirmundra3778 Oh shoot that's a tough decision. Honestly depends if you wanna do hardware or software. If it was UW CE vs UTSC CS that would be a different story since Waterloo >> UTSC CS. But for UTSC CS vs UTSG CE they're pretty much the same just one is good for hardware, other is good for software.
CS -> Software
CE -> Hardware
Can't go wrong with either tho, CE will just be hard if u dont like hardware and plus UTSG doesnt have a well known co-op system while UTSC is a bit more well known
co op more like no op amirite 😂😂😂
waterlooworks more like waterloo does not work 🤣 😂 🤪
hey justin just a question if you are applying to uni as a computer scientist is it a must to take coop to get a good paying job, since the job is high in demand especially if you are an actual Canadian citizen when you consider immignrets trying to get jobs, or just studying and trying to create your own thing as a start up is well enough?
You can opt out of co-op and you can also do non-co-op CS I think if you apply through the laurier dual waterloo cs degree program. Wouldn't really recommend it though.
@@jlau04 can you take computer science coop and only do it for a year and than opt out of CS coop and continue that with only CS and still get your masters? Thank you for the reply
@@toggle2565 I think you can, not 100% sure though. You can definitely opt out of the co-op in CS though
@@jlau04 when you apply for coop CS you apply to get the masters in CS Coop but if you opt out what masters do you get?
@@jlau04 can you take coop starting 3rd year of uni or it has to be 2nd
Hey Justin, im an international student, i got rejected for waterloo cs but they gave me a math regular program, would it be possible to switch to a math coop program? I do plan to transfer to cs hopefully working hard and getting good grades, would you recommend to stay with math degree potentially going to finance or go for a cs degree? Would a math degree still help me find jobs as software developer etc?
I’m not sure
As someone in Waterloo CS who knows a lot of people in Math, it's definitely worth coming to Waterloo for math. I know lots of people in Math who have gotten CS coop. Just know you'll have to go out of your way to build your resume
@@maxwellhunt3732 ^^^
@@maxwellhunt3732 thx! I have now confirmed my offer and will be going to Waterloo, hope my first year avg will be good, gotta give a try for the transfer :)
I just got accepted into comp Eng at Waterloo which was my top choice and this is making me rethink about going 😭. Do you think that it’s worth it for upcoming students?
Yeah the recession will be fine when you guys are here
Bro same
bruh I'm just 15 and wanted to go to Waterloo, now I'm feeling more UofT lol. or maybe Texas A&M.
Nah Waterloo is still the best thing you'll get when it comes to co-op and a CS/eng curriculum. Idk about Texas A&M but I have a friend at UT Austin and it seems good for CS. Idk about co-op there though
@@jlau04 I’m thinking more chemical or nuclear engineering, do you have and advice for that?
Hey, I recently got offers from both Waterloo and uoft for electrical engineering, and I’m wondering what you think I should do. My future goals is to pursue a masters and later work with chips or video cards. And with the whole coop situation at Waterloo as you mentioned, I’m really split between the 2 schools. Any thoughts?
Waterloo is better. Our ECE department is actually one of the most well-known and most well-funded ECE departments in Canada, and the co-op has a lot of research opportunities (even during the current recession). Many of my friends who chose Waterloo for ECE over UofT ECE do not regret, those who did the latter regret it completely. Keep in mind although Waterloo's co-op isn't amazing right now, in everywhere else it's almost non-existent in comparison.
@@jlau04 Hey, thanks for the response. Just want to clarify, would Waterloo still be the best path if I want to do my grad studies (masters) at Waterloo as well? Maybe I do undergrad at Waterloo than try to do a masters at uoft cause of the research? Any feedback is appreciated
@@justdotoast8833 Honestly I'm not quite too sure but I do have quite a few friends who are doing what you want to do. I don't think you could go wrong either way, but if you go to Uni, you might not actually end up liking doing research cause of the lack of pay and such, so going to Waterloo allows you to kinda test the waters. I'm also biased since im a waterloo computer engineering student so you could try asking some uoft ece students.
@@jlau04 Yo, it’s been a while but, if you see this, I just wanted to say that I'll be joining you guys at Waterloo this fall :)
Thanks for the help!
@@justdotoast8833 No problem! Glad I could help!
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Hi Justin!
I am a software engineer with over 2 year work ex.
I'll be coming for my masters in MASTERS IN MANAGEMENT SCIENCES (Co-Op). Is it a STEM Program? Also will the Co Op program be better by then I'm targeting Jan 2026 intake so to push my work ex to over 3 years. Will the co op program and these issues be sorted by then?
I don’t know much about management sciences. If it’s management engineering then yes that’s stem but management sciences i’m not sure. I think it might be like industrial processing stuff? Co op should be fine
At the engineering company I worked at... an electrical engineering company, one of the new hires was... a computer engineering graduate.
His best friend was an electrical engineer. His first job was with an electrical engineering firm.
Weird hunh? They totally both were misemployed.
The computer engineering graduate had a cando attitude. He’s President today. A computer engineer leading an electrical engineering company.
Keep trying folks. People need smart hard working people.
Great to hear this story! Thanks for the optimism, it's something we need in these tough times!
... You realize how similar those things are, yes?
Hoi Justin,
Hoi
hi
Is it still bad?
getting better
@jlau04 noice
dooming
it is doomed
@@jlau04 idk if it will be better after 2025 smh
Hey Justin, I know this might a bit annoying but I just got into Waterloo Comp Eng (international applicant = 🫰🫰), and also into McGill BA (probably will major in CS). My main reason to attend Waterloo atm is for the co-op experience and the ability to actually be industry ready by the time you graduate. But with the recession and all, do you think it'd be worth it? Considering that Waterloo is at least like 25k more than McGill per year and also that I'll probably have to work in Canada after I graduate due to H1B. Thanks a ton
CS and CE are completely different degrees. Depends on what you wanna do. Hardware -> CE. Software -> CS. I was split between UofT CS and UW CE and ended up with UofT CS. Whether I regret making that decision yet, I'm not sure. I do sometimes wish I went into CS though. It's all up to you honestly.